Declan Rice on England's Positivity

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And there is the final whistle Charlos Kirros But everyone from Ghana down is raised celebrations for Ghana after a nil mill draw against England and disappointment for all of these England fans who were hoping they were going to see England pick up from where they left off, but it been an exercise in frustration here in the New England Patriots stadium This is BBC Radio five Live. Call free. zero eight zo eight five nine zero nine six nine three. Text eight five zero five eight. Text will be charged at your standard message rate. Message on WhatsApp. eight zero eight five nineine six nine three Visit bbc d. co. uk slash five live terms for our terms of use and privacy notice And it is good morning to former England goalkeeper David James. David a reality check for the three lions. Good morning, Aron. I don't think it was a reality check. I think it was a game. which perhaps was not needed to be won by either team desperately. and as you saw by the celebrations of Ghana Team squad afterwards Um It was enough. fourour points. we will go through to the knockouts. England fans, call us this morning. eight zero eight five, ninez nine six nine three. What happened yesterday? Why weren't they firing? Did Thomas Toull get his line up wrong? Were the subs a little bit too late? Were the subs wrong? Should he have changed formation Should he have changed tactic? What happened? Oh wait o eightit five, nine and nine, six, nine, three David, who' you hear from this morning? I want to hear about whether anyone thinks it should have been a penalty I want to hear whether Anyone thinks that The refereing in the game was similar to the Scotland game and also the Scotland fans. So I want to hear from you and do you think that you can get a point against Brazil? You know, I've spoken to a Ghana fan this morning. A South London Ghara fan runs a barbers shop. He was absolutely buzzing. Ghara fans z eight zero eight five nine zero nine six nine three Were you robbed yesterday in Boston should you have had a penalty? Scotland fans playing Brazil tonight live and five live callos. five nine hundred nine six nine three. Can you get a point off of Brazil? We're with you until ele o'clock this morning. the numbers are.o eight five nine hundred nine six nine three. You can text us eight five five eight's at five live sport on X. Just use the hashtag. BBC six hundred six. Good morning, David James. How are we Yeah, I'm good. I' good Aaron. Thankk you. morning after the night before kind of feeling. I mean, we'll say, you know, have a considered view after a game Well, put it this way, I came down on the train. Yeah. it was hot Yeah I got the rattler underground and it was sweaty. And then I sat and watched England play and it didn't quite get me overly excited with regards to what we saw, but I was more than happy with the fact that it was a point. four points is enough to get to knockouts. and I know it sounds a little bit sort of What was the word I'm looking for? Making excuses perhaps. But the reality is we will forget that game quite quickly, especially when in B Panama. Do you think of that word? we're going to go to the line. eight five nine z nine six nine three goodood morning Andrew in Greenford. How are we? Good morning, Aaron, morning, David. Yeah, It's the same old story, isn't it? The doom and gloom merants out in force after a Nil Nil Dw Gana. I'm old enough to remember the nineteen sixty six World Cup, I watched it on TV. And in the qualifying group that year, we drew Nil Nil with Uruguay. We still finished top of the group, and Uruguay went through with us, just as Gharana will go through with us on this occasion. It's not the end of the world. As David says, we're still top of the group. You can only play as well as you're allowed to play. You have to give credit to Ghara how they set up shop yesterday to make sure that they were very hard to break down At the end of the day, we can count ourselves very lucky and without a shadow of doubt the quip of the World Cup tournament so far comes from Carlos Cuiros, who said that VAR must have gone for a cup of coffee when Kong was ped their striker in the penalty box. It was a blatant penalty. I think as David said earlier on this morning, was listened to him as well and he spot on So day is not the end of the world, and also just to let you know that in that group stage that year, on the twentieth of july sixty six has been one day difference this year, sixty years on, we beat France too nil in the group stages. I'm just wondering, could we be playing France in the final this year on the nineteenth of july sixty years on Andrew no because we're playing Germany 's what you decided. We to group, top theirs and we make them in the final. Ohold we got to get there first.'ve of my fanies for the final four. My picks for the final four but always from the word go were England, Germany, France and Morocco, the Dark horses. They were my four picks I'm not I'm not going to be negative at all. but One thing that concern me, Andrew is the fact that again, it's a team who set up in this low block who defend deep who are willing to to be physical and the aggression was high. I saw one challenge Nico' Reilly with with the left side full backack or right side full back was one of the fullbacks ar So's Kaak in the left back and he's gone straight into him was around the ninetieth minute. I thought he's taking a bit of w there H Saka. It it was a big challenge and teams aren't afraid to do that to England because they know That maybe just maybe there's no plan A and a half B Nothings changed, Aaron. Uruguay did the same for us in sixty six. Nothing's changed. You'll get teams that play like that when they know they're playing against a team is rated as a superior team when look at superior team on paper. So theyve got to find a way of trying to deal with that threat That's what they do. a knows Yeah I mean, we know what the final four of the World Cup is going to be and there's going there's going to be a few games before that. I don't know if you're one who's tried to work out the permutations with regards to the knockouts, but there is a scenario where England could play Tape Verd, if I'm not mistaken. Really I'm looking at Aon. I think there is ye Yeah, because it's one of four teams, isn't it? third place four teams in four different groups. I reckon that we can come up against a low block if we play. No just donon't be worried about who we're going to play? Let's focus on Panama Okay. Okay. And let's forget forget the fact that England would play Germy in the final and they could play Kate Verdy and sure and I'm not sure if you were frustrated with a low block much as lo. No you're expecting it. You're expecting it. and you have to find a way around it. As you said, that England weren't really pressurized to want to need to score last night. Obviously it would be nice to win. Our fans are there. we want to win. But at the end of the day, we're still top of the group You know we beat Croatia, it was a good win for two came out the second after se and did the business there. That was an impressive win. I thought might only get a draw against Croatia. So the win was a bonus there to kick off with anyway. So yeah, we will find our way. We will find out even if it's just one nill against Panama, we'll take that right now And even if with draw against Panama, there's no guarantee Gana or be Catia might still end up being top even with a draw. peopleeople shouldn't start knocking England just because they want one performance or start panicking.'s just know we got the players got the squad out there Andrew Have a great day. ennjoy the Panama game as well. eight five, nine hundredo nine, six, nine, three just Come on come and react. What are your thoughts this morning after last night's performance? Look at the result, look at the performance, divitamin into two Come on and have your say this morning because I want to know, was it that bad a result? Are you optimistic following it point It's a clean sheet in a group an cheats matter. You don't to conceding goals do you? We conceded two in opening game. Where are you with this right now? There are so many different talking points and one place to have your say. Oh eight, o eight five. nine and nine, six nine three. goodood morning out Hi there. I just want to just say that I agree with David totally. That was a stone bonking penalty if I've ever seen one in my life And we got away with that. but never mind U disappoint your followers at a rate they can stand And I was enthusiastic about England the other day as I was on your show I was disappointed last night, but I can stand for that. becausecause I think they did a job. they got a point. and we're going to make it M disappointing So I'm just saying Disappoint your followers at a rate they can stand. And I can stand that last night. O G to speak to again. I'm curious disappoint and suggest that you obviously weren't happy in one sense, even though we still t the group Is there any concerns going forward or are you just isolating this to one game which realistically the three points weren't the biggest need for England or Ghana Yeah, yeah. I think you're absolutely right that neither side needed to win, particularly Otherwise, I'm sure people would have come out When I say I'm disappointed I was happy that we Got a got a point And especially when there was a penalty that we should have been destroyed with So I am absolutely happy, and I'm still happy and enthusiastic and I think that the England team will now learen from that and Bring on Cape Verdy Al, you're happy, you're enthusiastic. Let's hear from the England mananager Thomas Duchle Thomas, you did tell us it might be like that, didn't you? Yeah, I told you And it was like that. I mean credit to them. I rarely saw a physical performance like that from a team They defended with ten players in a deep deep block So made it difficult for us because they defended very disciplined and they were very physical on every position. So it took us a while to break this block down, to find the rhythm. It was everything was in our responsibility to come up with a rhythm and to create chances and at the same time, you need to be so careful to not conceive counter attacks. We did all that We created hf chances, we created deliveries, we created corners But we couldn't get a goal to open the game up and to change the characteristic of the game. Um It took a while even in the second half and then with the energy and the fatigue of the opponent, the energy from our substitutes We were there. we were pushing, pushing, pushing big chance with Harry that he will never miss in this tournament again. So It is what it is. go from him. We heard Carlos Kirros say that he felt that at half time He didn't think England had the solutions to find a way through. You didn't think that, did you That's It is difficult to find a way through if someone plays a four fifty one completely deep and is committed to it and they celebrated the zero zero and the end like a win. So You could see the different approaches which is fair enough and credit to them just cannot lose your head about it You need maybe a shot, you need maybe a deflected shot, you need a second chance from a set piece, a little mistake from a defender one on one in the right moment. We tri to commit a little bit more the full backs. We expected I expected them not that deep. so We pushed our full best to commit a bit more into attack in the second half. It took us a while To find our rhythm a second half, the substitutes help and the fatigue set in ye and then we created more and more and al longong way the game went, but Scot Thanks Thomas. We'll see you for the next one The England manager, Thomas Dugal speaking to football correspondent John Murray eight five nine hundred nine six nine three taking your calls u into eleven o'clock this morning. Rob, what do you make of the England boss in his comments after that Nil Nil Draw Yes. I mean, my point really is just about a lack of flexibility. Ghana defended really well. low block and all that good defensive formation. So to me whyy couldn't they have just changed the tactic, do something that the opposition doesn't want you to do? which to me is get Mar' balls in the box, just b I think maybe ten minutes into the second half, when it was clear they couldn't break him down by the Watkins on, even bring on, you know, Dan Burns a center off, stick the ball in the box, test their keeper. you know, I am interested tactic, you know, because I do sometimes think and he's locked into this oh, you know, we're got to pass it around. We've got to try and open up this one chance Why not now and again just, you know, completely break the rule book and just bom bomb the bx U and you know, you never know you might pick up a second ball It just felt a little bit kind of safy and I thought Tkco might have been a little bit more experimental with trying something like that Rob, can I ask the question? Thanks for calling in Do not think that would have because no one has ever watching the game yesterday no one mentioned Dan Burnurn coming on and trying to trying to win the header. But there'll be an opportunity surely in the later on in the in this competition that that might be the way forward. Do you not think in the second group game in a game that England don't necessarily need to win Different as it might have been, it actually looks a little bit desperate if you were thinking of putting Dan Burn on for a Not really because I don't think that means that Ghana are going to get a massive advantage in terms of you know, their attacking play. It's just a different way of attacking, isn't it really? And I think maybe if they've done that and they is the Ghanaian defenders. they just looked like they were expecting England to play the way they did. so you know, don't you have to sort of try something a bit different just to sort of upset their rhythm. And I'm not you know, I'm not into long ball football per se, but I just think sometimes Just one pase not. So here's sorry, here's question. I mean obviously it's hypothetical If Nico O'Rilly's header goes in or Harry Kane, who's never going to miss that chance again in the World Cup scores and we end up winning one nill there be a problem with the rest of the game Probably no But literally that was The only chance that was the only real clear chance you would say that we created in ninety minutes And so yeah, of course, as always Hypetically called. but I just it wass be funny Yeah yeah, maybe with half an hour to, you know, again, I'm not against them trying to sort of play it through. but I think maybe with half an hour to go, you might have thought let's just try because if you think about it, in that last ten minutes It was just smashing crosses all the time. and it was looking quite dangerous. So Rob, we had nineteen shots and just three of them were on target And the thing is is that when when you talk about changing in style, likekay, if you don't want to change style, There's a lot of players that have been left at home I've seen already people talking about it on social media. Well, a Cole Palmer could do X Y andZ or a Phil Foden would be able to unlock a defense or a Jarob Bowen. like this is the problem you're going to have this argument with people because fundamentally David, people are congregating to win. They want to see a win. And although we will look at it from or you may look at it from ah well, you know, it's a long game. it's a group People want to guarant teing them win. Yeah, you're right. And I think everyone who's listening will know that every shot that Cole Palmer hit last season went in Just as a g as a girl tper, David as a goalkeeper, how would if you you're keeping in front of that sort of behind that defense, if a team then suddenly went to launching in the butottom, putting in good good quality crosses and stuff, does that make you Do you think, oh, great, they've gone long ball, or do you think, Oh, right, I'm going to have to really start working now, you know, I'm going to be under pressure. I'm going to put you know big man right up against me. So just interested from your experience interest Yeah, was what was really nice is the guy N Kman, forgive me, I forgot his name, the way that he celebrated the final whistle for the clean shake. He was more than happy with that And I think he was more than happy that the fact that the crosses that were coming and the only one he had a problem with was Nicoali said which it's Scoskot So yeah I don't this really interesting when I'm looking at it, if I'm Thomas Suchal, I go into the change room afters training session. I say, listen, we got the crosses in. We just need people on the end of the crosses it's how we get those people at the end of the crosses, which will be the issue for the Garnet and keeper it's like great, keepe doing that because no one's winning. Well it was Benjamin Osarea that the Garn and goalkeber. And what was interesting is is again, his sort of in game management because evenough are three corners on the balnce that can rise this us quite deep into the game first two he stuck into the mix. and I think we had a free host head at the back post that was Ellie Anderson with the head. Yeah. And then the third corner, he's gone. he's wrestled his way through the box and he's got a real strong pour on it and you're thinking, fair play. Yeah, fair play. just think There was a lot of crosses. So there was a lot of opportunities to unlock this block if you like. But without players on the end of it, Eie Anderson hit the defender, didn't it with with the free header It's a difficult headad of it because it's right and the far post. There's a lot of things which I think the Kai Saka had a chance if' not mistaken in the first half. there was There was opportunities there which I think again, Thomas Sugal learns because if we are going to play against the side and I'm not saying who set up the whole game as a low block, but there will be times doesn't matter what defense you're up against, they will look like a low block And we need to have a solution for that. And I think we found by not creating the solution how we should be able to create solutions going forward. any view on that Um Well, yeah, I mean, if it's P peopleople are saying about Palmer and you know these players who can maybe play the little ball that can just open up the defense. If we don't have that then you know, I know it's a bit old school, but maybe yes, we do have to go a little bit more direct and get some real physicality in and around the bockite I just think when Marcus Rashers came on, he was putting balls in. he put he was to be honest, he put the best crosses in of any of the England players And it was, you know, if you're defending and you ha' you don't know where that second ball is going to land, you know, okay, could go straight through and the keeper catches it. But a lot of the time you don't know can make mistakes and But I guess I'm not saying, I'm not saying that this is the way England should play. maybe with the amount of subs you've got, you could even experiment with it for a bit of time And then if it's not working change it again because I don't know how many subs they got, they can be they can sort try one or two different systems with their subs. U yeah, just just maybe old school sometimes does do the truth Oh eight five nine and nine six nine three Rob, Great call. good to speet you this morning. Barry is in Mchester. Barry you want to talk contentious penalties and that one in particular Yeah, morning h and morning morning bget Gorning bye think the It wasn't a penency. because if you look at the sus up the Garnneetian player had sereriously hurt him. Um, But it wasn't a penalty Second one Austria against Argentina That wasn't a penalty and it was clearly shown it wasn't a penalty when they went to VAR, but they still gave it And even the commentators said that justice was done when the raarity like Hencey with messy missing the penalty Sorry, the penalty incident with England I don't think Jordan Pick was involved in that. He was kind of out of the way. We're talking about the Conza Cza when Conz Yeah sorry because I'm not saying it was a penalty. I just thought the decision on I have there's a caveat to this that I have slight England bias, of course. But the point being is concer Goes for a challenge. he connects with the Gharanaayian player's thigh and not the ball and then the player goes down. The question is, I don't know if K' or the question would be was Koner's contact on the thigh enough to make him go to ground So then it with that with that with that point of which I agree with you, David That sign. What about the Scott McTomney and the Joh McGinn ones where they all.'s bad so bad. Barry if we just quickly if we keep on the England one for a moment because I'm thinking as an England fan, I'm happy that it's not p. Act in fact, if I'm Jordan Pickford, I'm a little bit frustrated because I'd love to have save that penalty. J justust on the cons of challenge,arry. I don't know if you've seen the replay. I mean, I've looked at this replay multiple times. The way he goes into it is rash because he le both feet leave the ground. He's jumping over him. It's like he's going into for some sort of hurdle. But he I don't sorry, sorry, Barry, Do you think that Koner's challenge wasn't reckless? and do you think that Koner didn't The garn and player fall on the floor. I too many questions in one go. Well go.ag imagine being a referee on. Of course is on you could. U I would say that he goes in front of the player, his feet go in front of the player and There has to be Lia and def definitive say. for VAR to say that it's the penalty and that the Ofield decision was wrong And that's what happened Com also puts his foot in front He goes in but you you've seen loads You've see loads of tackles in your professional day, David, where you'll see someone in front of you. and they'll sweep the ball away And they'll say world class defensive tackle So there has been I don't think it was a world class defensive tackle. That's the thing about it, Barry. And I think if you ask the majority of the country right now There ye we got away with one there. We did get away with one with there Ron So Good to hear from you though, Barry, give us call again. at five. nine o nine six nine three ten twenty eight across the UK. Elliot is in Cel. goodood morning Oh good morning to you both gentlemen. Well, was this just a blitz? for an illustration of the limited ability of our England players It was just awful to watch an England team devoid of any imagination, enterprise, basic skills to take on the seventy third ranked team in the world The coach now knows the depth of these England players There is one basic flaw with English footballers. They simply don't possess creativity or are they able to improvise Elliot can ask you a question Do you think Spain possess these players that you think England don't possess Spain are boring They play triy Cfy football, which a good side, which a good side of speed quality like an Argentina would tear a bit reason I say ye, sorry the reason I say I wasn't being facetious is that when Spain drew Nil Mill with Kate Verde in the first game, I know the goalkeep madeload of saves but Spain weren't able to score and they are the best European Champions they be in the finals we all know, they have creative players and they were unable to do what was necessary to get the three points in the game yesterday England didn't play like Spain did against Kate Virdy granted But they did create a couple of opportunities which could have won them the game. And as I said to Rob beforehand or ask him the question Haddland scored a one one mill. wouldould you have said it was a good pererformance? Well, I think most people would have agreed Oh, okay, okay Interesting. No, I wouldn't. So what is the what is the solution, Elliot a manager that can actually get a team to function. A manager that can get his players, his limited players to open up and to start playing some open attractive football, inter passassing, movement I didn't see a lot of that last night. I don't know if youish The problem is, Elliot, when they're set up like they are don't think that's the problem, that's the sort of solution. And the funny thing is is you phoned up and said, o well, you know into passing, passing a movement. someomeone else five minutes ago said, getet damn burn on and lump it long. So everyone's got an opinion and everyone wants to see different things. The one thing I say about England is When there was a shot on they tried a shot, how many of those shots were blocked by Ganian bodies? We reckon about sixteen because only three of those efforts got on target. So so it's not for the want of trying Eie. I don't know what the solution is. I'm not a football manager. I'm a football fan Cute D don't know if what you're send is a solution mate Well, I mean only say orry going on. sorry,'re gonna go You can only say one thing Coach has a fantastic record over two year periods He'd won championships, he'd won titles. I think it was nine with three of the biggest clubs in the world. He was brought in to try and do the same over a two year period with England I think he now knows the limited nature of his players What does he do Does he decide that we need to attack more? Because remember, Our England performance last night wasn't the first time it's happened We have simply come short when when we're playing defensive teams. We've always look like we're struggling. We can't get a goal Harry Kaine was quite frank full of anxiety when he hit that ball because he knew everything revolved on that shot and he fully passed the bar. Now if he was playing for the past four five days, everyone's been saying Harry Harry Kaines the most confident striker in world football runner. He's so confident it hurts. night I was going to say this might be a little bit left field. Do you like a good Sunday roast No Elliot Beause my point is when you have a good Sunday roast with super potatoes, sometimes you got to peel potatoes and it doesn't look good. I think in the context of the World Cup A nil nill draw against Ghana is like peeling potatoes. It's going to be good in the end, but we have to suffer that.re Are you trying to say think bigger picture here? Absolutely. Think of the greater. We did not need to win the game. We did not need to talk about potatoes either ten thirty I'm hungry. I'm hungry So six on five live giveive us a call. 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I think they played for played for a draw as it would have seen them go through and fair play to them with a great job Yeah, welcome back to six hundred six on five live twenty four minutes to eleven o'clock this Wednesday morning this. is your opportunity to have your say on England's performance against Ghana last night, David James alongside us to eleven o'clock this morning. Let's read some of your messages out. Tom As said, this is a typical result for England in the second game of a World Cup Ghana played very well. However, Panama will be a bounce backack and we will progress. Toual is different Everyone needs to calm down. Thank you to Tom. Paul Rileilly and Ufielder said if South Gate had been in charge last night, fans would have been calling for his head by now. Andandy, we have to trust the bench more, with them playing such a low block we needed pacing behind not came dropping so deep Hkins should have been given a chance after seventy minutes to get them worried about the ball environ. That's an interesting point How people are talking about Is Roberto Martin is scared to substitute Christianaado. Of course Christian Ranudo has scored bve yesterdayight. Well done to him in that That five noil win. Is Thomas Douall concerned about substituting Harry Kaye I do know? What I love that is and I think Paul made the point there There's a lot of conversation now about how things were wrong in a game and I keep going back to the point that England didn't need to win Harry Kane in the last time we sat in this studio. was the best thing since liice spread score two goals, and I know it's more a team performance than an individual performance, but Harry Ke is class. He had the opportunity to score and he's allowed to miss yesterday Had we lost the game, then that miss would have been obviously Bigger U, but I don't think Harry Kaine and Christiana Ronaldo being in the side are the same argument in that sense U G morning to Graham who's in Montgomery Chasen to unlock a lad block you have to create Chaos runners, dummy runners, quick one two threees long balls in. You must not let the low block team settle. Chaos. Graham. I love it. I'd love to know who support as well, Graham Txt the sp. let me know who your team is and I want to work out if they cause c. Good morning to Srier in Manchester who said she picked Love Island over the game for the first half, but she said she watched the second and said her summation is this, it's not that hard. You just have to get the ball in the net. EO, exXO. That's it. It's true. Is she referring to Love Isreland? Well that asks the question. Love Iland or England. Give us a text. eight five ero five eight. Oh. o eight five, nine o nine six nine three is our number to dial. Kevin is in Sto contract morning Kev? Morning, how are you? Yeah, veryy well. thank you, Pa. where you go And Yeah. I mean, I've listened to the callers, it is frustrating and it's the same every time a team comes in and poks, poks the buzz But we should be skilled enough now in order to come you know get over it because it's happened every single tournament, whether it's the Euros Flies W upup The tactics should be totally different against the low block side. having one up front Kayanl look lost to death I think Gordon had a poor game because he was he was marked out the game every time he tried to take a man on I thought he was poured against Croatia, I'm honest but he still gets a shirt That's why he brings a squad. I put Aventoni on last night just to rough him up a bit king I Ivan Tony over Dan Byrne I think Alwl or Rob who suggested that Dan Byne could have come on just to mix you up I mean is it if you got it Kev, if you got any credit for Ghana and the way I listen. Yeah, I do I do. I do. But what I'm saying to you is manager now with all these credentials should should know that You should be looking at videos looking at the past experience, you know by these type of players in order to pick him off But we always always struggle. Panama will be a total different game when we play France or or a team that wants to attack, it's a totally different game But when we play a low block side, we always always struggle. And I said last night We won't score, and I was right and it was boring to watch. But yeah, I agree all credit to Garner, they set out what they needed to do and he did it. It's as simple as that Do you know how most frustrating it is There's got to be a plan B somewhere. and I will ch Yeah, change it change it up. And what that textter said earlier Gam said Chaos just change things up, rununners, dummy runners, long ball, just chunk it in the mixer. So Kevin there's another point here because he made an instant impact when he came on in the Christ game in Marcus Rashford. He came on later last night and made an impact There's a question, M M R should being one hundred percent fit. So there's a part would you would you think that Thomas Touall is thinking in the back of mind, Id want to do this earlier can't really risk it. And we don't need to I keep going back. the baseline to this is that England did not need to win the game But there is with Marcus Rushford the opportunity at least to say three minutes But he had an impact in that short period of time. So there is there is the options for chaos. Would you not think that the question is whether the options are fit enough be brought in earlier to make the changes. I think you should have brought him on earlier. Iree you know, agree with that. But that was that a game for Kain last night? I don't know. you know, we've got to be stronger and say right, Hy, this is a lad block game You know, we're going to put our runners in and you know, the strength and play two strikers at least try and give them some some option because they they understand and they know our formation and it's easy meet two of them if they look at a way we play, just just don't attack You know, he football' is a simple game. Yeahep. Kevin A you stoke fan Very much so, yes. Well, I mean, you know what playing to up frront is like back in the good old days. Chaos now though It's absolute chaos now Mate L forward to the fixture release at lunchtime, Kevin. Good to speet to you this morning on six hundred six. Thank you for getting in touch, Mate. Lucas is in Bristol, good morning Hello community Yeah, I can. Come on Lucas, talkal to us. H, I think that cool, I think the tra is more times in making bigger calls like didn He didn't play Belling a minute in the qualifiers. for the World Cup and You know, I just think there's more fire, more fights about England Itally against Croatia anyway. Interesting point. Lucas, did he watch the whole game last night Yeah, I did. And how do you feel about I mean there's two parts to this question. First of all, the performance last night and secondly the The result, the point. How did you feel about those thought that the like Oh yeah and walking on I said to my dad when I was watching the game I think I think K will come off but You can't really listen to those like b this is in the World Cup and also O here at Panama are above Ghana in the bankings in the world, so Everyone thinks there's going to be an eas win and England, but I think I think paramel a Well I hope it was an entertaining fight, Lucas and obviously you're going get the three points, which is the most important thing. I think what we would have to observe is that if we just went on the FIFA rankings and there wouldd be no point in having a World Cup, you just give it straight to the number one ranked team. And what I've loved about this World Cup, the likes of Kaate Verdy Ghana yesterday is that the lowest sides looking at it and going, we don't have to play your game. We just have to get the points and Kate Birdie with three draws could end up going through the knockouts and we could in a wild scenario end up having to play there Lucus T stuff, good to speak to you this morning. We are live on the BBC. I apply via the BBC Sort website and we're on TikTok live as well right now. My first four rounds TikTok, but I'm quite enjoying it A lot of Ghanaian fans on there saying Ghana were robbed of a red card and a penalty. Ghana did very well. Black stars simply learned a thing or two from the current Champions arsenal. A lot of Ghana fans say they're cheated for not getting a penalty. D don't know why people are being so negative. We have a strong team. It's coming home before the tournaments even starts P face I I ing some of these comments. Garana got robbed There you go. Those are the main comment, let's hear fromr another England star. Decklan Rice is with Kelly Summers eckl his frustration, the overriding emotion of full time? Yeah, I think so. It's always difficult when you play against eleven behind the ball as deep as they was. You got to find solutions and last ten minutes weve probably found more than we did all game and we were unlucky not to score, but we stay positive, we keep going and we still have a great chance to top the group against Panama, so positivity all around I think you couldn't find those solutions today when you did so well against Croatia. You have to give credit to Ghana sometimes. you know five for one off the ball, very, very compact, tight spaces to play through. But of course, on the other hand, maybe we can do a little bit more with the ball and create a bit more, but it's tough, you know they're good players that we said that. It was never going to be an easy game Now we have one more in a group to finish top, so we need to be positive four tournament in a row where England have drawn their second group match. She've got to finals in two of those tournaments Does that perhaps show that there's no need to panic? It's all on track You know, load of top nations drew their first game. you know, there's no need to be negative or or downbeat, we need to stay positive, keep going recover before the next match and that's what we'rell do Dean Rise speaking to Kelly Summers after last night's game against Ghara.it five nine hundred and nine six nine three taking your course alongside David James until eleven o'clock this morning. Zach is in Sheffield. good morning Hi how you doing Yeah, very well, thanks P talk to us, my Yeah, so I think like I think herear in Deck from there I'm an Arhal fan as well. So I kind of I've heard him say, you know, quite someilar things quite a lot of times, you know, when Arsenal playing against teams It's a low block eleven men against behind the ball for the majority of the game. So it is very hard to break them down. I think that was the same last night and Kan did a very good job at that I just think, you know, we just need to be a bit more positive. like, you know, it's not a loss. We drew the game probablyrobably like you said, we could have probably done a bit more, should have done more and we need to kind of on different sides of the game. So Ill see everyone criticising Asenal a lot of people for set pieces I think that's you know with an England team, it's probably it' a different group of players, but they probably need to work on more of that sort of stuff so that when they do play, seems like Ihana or Panama think's going to be very similar you know, they they put Croatia was one mill I think probably people would expect the Gia to blow them away a little bit So I think there's going to be many games like that So I think they're going to have to work harder on that side of the game And yeah, I thought Rice was for a little bit of it, like some of the deliveries of bit poul it's a different group of players as well. So I think they need to kind of probably work on that of more of the gang ' that C post call in, I'm curious now because you're an arsenal fan How do you think Asenal played in the Champions League final? Do you think Asenal were poor side who just defended and PSG should have beaten them four or five U you know, you could look at it that way. I think I think but to be fair, I think was it was the arguably the best attack in the Champions League versus the best defense Sry Forgive me for interrupting I don't want this to be a conversation about the Champ Lague final per se. It's more the fact that we have Asenal the best team in England having to play essentially a low block against PSG which is akin to England playing against Lowbock against Ghana PSG couldn't Aaron, you're making that face No I'm not I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, it's just one of those things It's kind of like give credit to Arsenal for defending the way they did in the Champions Leue final and they get to penr it out just have interest. Did we really need to play two holders Did we agree not in hindsight? probablyrobably not Probably not. you know, I think Hanson I think he looks a little bit sluggish at times. I don't think you should get really into the game Um I don't think Yeah, I think Gordon as well I think he's good player. don't me wrong, but I think probably starts for me next game You could argue the same for for Madaueke for Saka, but S Zack of you know, from an arsen point of view again, sorry, but I know he's been running to the ground and there's been fighting the and Achilles injur hasn't really been at full fitness for a lot of the season So I think we need to start him, maybe because we need to get a bit of an injection of some emergency. That's what I was a bit annoyed about last night is like it just didn't really seem to have the urgency. in a light You are playing against the other men behind the ball Youve got to try and make it happen a little bit more. and I thought England were quite be just to kind of play it around and try and you know cross it in their perspective cross And then maybe Nick one and out abbsolutely. They're nearly did unfortunately didn't work out. But I think know as England fans, we can castrophise quite easily. So we're still top of the group We have to take the point and then Panama, I think it will be a very similar game. So circles maybe go change taxics and probably change a few players around to see that game because I think although the Panama are rated highly by the lab said That really will be him. Zach top top man. we got to push on. we got to speak to John who is in Dundee. Scotland, of course playing Brazil tonight live on five live. Good morning, John. Good morning, A and good morning, David hopefully after tonight the chant will still be reacing out no Scotland no party. That's what I'm hoping anyway. It's just What I'm hating is basically how The fans are saying if we' lease one hour or two hour or that we'll be happy I'd much rather say let's try an now we goal. Let's go ahead against Brazil, then say to them, you have to score two if you want to be us instead of with the fameook, the fameook. you know, that would be great. if we could actually take the lead and say, come on then, can you score two against us? Can we then defend? Can we then maybe get a countterack as well or maybe get another one That would be fantastic, but it's probably not going to happen. It's just it It's just it's just Scotland, doesnn't it? you're fans for some reason or worry because you do Bana. you're through to the next round. It's just where you finish in the group, it doesn't matter. After that it's knockout football ame example I always think of this been nineteen eighty two Italy is their three games drew their three games they just went through on gold difference happened in the end at least to be Argentina, to beat Brazil the nextcive games The beat Poland in the semis, the beat West Germany in the final That was such an Unbeliefable use because of controversal things as well, where West Germany and Austria played out a one mill win for West Germany denied Algeria a chance to get through Northern Ireland had to beat Spain the last game in Spain to go through the groups. They did it So why can Scotland try against Brazil basically say okay We can do what North Isreland did in nineteeny two That would be fantastic. Yeah this I mean you decid off so optimistically there about them scoring early. mean how do Scotland approach today's game? What do they have to do Well you cannot switch off right away at the start of the game because that's basically what happened last night against Morocco. It was obvious how Gan and Dot wasn't playing, I think Stef Clike' be seeing, Okay, we'll get to say no no Maybe fifty minutes in the second half It's hopefully still Milbill. Th thenen we'lling bring him on. We'll bring and we'll try you in got a go and then hold on to it. And if Morocco scored wasn't fair enough, we've got a point But unfortunately we switched off at the start, Grand handandy was slow. M. Jo Gon Anley's been slow for years. Yeah, I know. I know, but that's I'm saying but you've got you've got to be totally focused in these games and you've got to be right from the start. And especially now with the hydration brakes. you've basically got like they say four quarters. so you can'ot switch off even after that. You've got to be right on it whole game Whatne mistake J You' got Joh Do this, do this. We're back on a it tomorrow morning at ten Whatever the results, Whatever the weather Give me a call back. Yeah because we can I'm actually working tomorrow. this is my deal. So don't think my what wouldd be happy with Tell your boss to call us. It'd be fine. Don't worry. I five nine nine six nine three. John, you're a gentlemen. ennjoy the game tonight. It's live on five live. Ryan on TikTok says Tkle is to blame his selection his decisions during the match were wrong Natural gains. If we can secure the confidence to strike, it's coming home Adam, you're in Guilf for your first time callner. Good morning Yeah, morning for both of you. yeah. I've just picking up on and the prisis point really. And I'm the first person I've had thirty years at hur with England and but not to panic or be too negative. It was a frustrating game M I've got three kids and two boys watch the middle one fell asleep We were patient, we controlled the game. I think we moved the ball around really well the large spells a bit and most importantly, we didn't take risks and concede which obviously would have put us all in a different situation. But I think you know it was frustrating, but it only were have take one rub of the green and the ball landing two feet left or right, we ended up putting a couple away and we'd all be ecstatic and I just think We maybe just , it's not necessarary to get this ne two we would't have thought we could win, but we'd played pretty well, I thought. Do you think we win the World Cup I think if this is all part of Tukle's plan Yes You know, everybody's talked about I would have brought Bushford on earlier, I would have changed that. That's right. From everybody has their own perspective if he's got a plan around this, which is hard for us to know I think we can. and we've drawn our second games in what the last two tournaments final So but I know from I'm too old to get too carried away on that Adam, which way are you going left or right? Oh, what you mean Y indicator is on Oh l my hands actually. I've pull pulled over so I'm not driving, but I left my hands on. Sorry, chcks I If you want me to say I'll say we're wom it. No know you know what Do you know what it is obviously look, we get some notes that, you know, you guys you guys when you guys speak to our producers, you talk about what you want to talk about and you let us know. And in one of it says we can become too negative these England fans all them say sixty years of hurt. That's what it is. it's pain it's It like going back to an X repeatedly and the same thing happening over and over and over and over again It hurts every single year. But I wont decide though, I'll probably end up having the hurt again, but falling into the trap of saying it does feel a bit different move around You know how many times peopleve said that? But Adam, where are you going? We're driving. I'm off to work, actually I've got into the office from from home, ye Have a safe journey. goodood to speet you this morning. Adam and Guilford with us on five live ten fifty six across the UK four more minutes to go on six so six. The last word goes to Jim. Good morning, Jim. Good morning gentlemen. how are you Yeah, good than you, Pum. Good good. And I suppose there's a couple of things. Firstly, huge congratulations to Ghanner. I thought they set up very, very well coached Also, despite my otherwise nations, very good luck to Scotland tonight, even as a proud Englishman, I think we want to see all of our nations do well. My point is I'm concerned that Tsa will turn into Southgate in disguise. and He we've got we've arguably got one of the strongest squads And I think my concern with Gareth having not made the decisions that we all thought he would do at the euros and previous conversations, seeing how we were being muscled off the ball, seeing to compress, seeing the lack of space up front, I just don't understand why Given the fact that it was a bit of a dead rub and we had nothing really to lose from it. why we didn't put Tony or someone who's stronger. I mean, things are getting just knocked off the ball like a kind of camel in the wind. I ain was very, very predictable and unfortunately we don't really seem to have a planlan B, although we've got the planlan B squad and I just think it was just really disappointing to watch and just great to have your thoughts on it It's a good point you make there, Jim, but the There was stuff in the game the first half was very similar in effect, as I say, to the Croatia game without the goals, even with four goals, there wasn't much going on in that first half What I found interesting was you trying to get in a rhythm, you've got this physicality of the G anday inside, which was was fair. but strong We had the incident where before the hydration break, the game stopped for what three or four minutes Then a minute later they go into hydration break. I just don't think there was any flow to that first half