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Podcasting is a complicated profession, which is why we're here to discuss the Mandalorian and Grogu in theaters everywhere now. My name is Dan Morne and I am joined as always by my co host Tony Sindalar is here. Hi Tony. Hello nerds. Cat Benish is also here. Hi Kat. I'm here. We saw it in theaters. I had an entire box of Rasinettes. It was great . Those are the highlights . Yep, the movie was better than expected. We're skipping straight to the review. Final judgments. You may not give it so you give it a John J r. or sorry what? She's not familiar with the rating system. Let me call Guy English and have him come explain the rating system. I agree with that. So many stupid rating systems . First of all account, there's really only one, but it is very serious second of all it is from Serious Podcast. Pardon? That's the main one. It is extremely stupid. No one is arguing with that. Yeah. No . But third, I made that joke repeatedly and you haven't learned the one thing and are confused every time. Tony, how many of your have been playing D and D together Two men. Yeah, at least let's like ballpark this. How many times have you tried to figure out what happens on a tie? Exactly. Like only recently do I know the tie goes to the attacker. And I think we've been playing D and D for easily ten years together . I thought for the last five that that was a bit that you were doing. No , no, it really is not been. Kat, let's not delve too deeply into how much of our friendship is based on misunderstanding . You thought I was really into crypto . Really? Friendship is the misunderstanding that you have along the way. I still don't believe that story, Tony. Hold on. First of all, I don't think we've covered the story on the podcast. And I wasn't ready to because it reflects poorly on all of us because but now I will because you've invoked it. Dan, feel free to cut this out. When Dan or no, when Kat and I first met in the context of Ultimate Frisbee, we were after a game and Kat was talking about Bitcoin and I judge Kat unkindly because she was a stranger talking to me about Bitcoin. at the same time , I have to recognize the vibes that I am putting out into the world were such that I would be receptive to someone talking about Vitcoin and that's on me. There are no winners in this story and somehow , despite that incident , a friendship . And you probably caught me just to that like that one week that I was intrigued by cryptocurrency before I thought about it a little longer was like, wait, this is a round that week is it's like it's the college freshman who just read Atlas Shrugged. Yeah. And you know what? As long as you get one week kids . And you get one who'd been a lot better if you bought some Bitcoin. I thought it was overvalued at the time. That was twenty fourteen. Hi, man. Anyway, we don't end our set on the podcast. Moving right along . Moving right along , I'm happy . We're back to talk about the Mandalorian and Grug. Yes, we all went to a movie theater together and saw a movie . Was that a movie? Two episodes of a TV show glued together wearing a trench coat? It's unclear. No, I think it was a legend. It was more of a movie than yes . I guess it was more of a what is your atomic unit for what is I got? What is the most basic unit of a it was more of a movie and less of a television show than many of the television shows that we've seen of Star Wars that are actually movies in a trench coat. So you're comparing it to the Obi World Wan series that became a TV show or Puka Boba Fett . Both of those were movies and trench coats. How do you feel that is not a movie? Not a trench coat. We don't know what it is. Don't open that trench coat. It is a hallucinogenic experience. Lizards up the nodes. So I feel bad because I went and learned things and you know how we feel about knowledge here on this podcast. It rarely avoided and it rarely improves the situation . So I think it is only fair to say that the history of this according to Wikipedia spoilers spoilers in this entire episode. Yeah, you should not listen to this . If you want, if you don't want to know what happens in the movie, don't listen to this episode spoiler warned. Okay. So according to the Wikipedia page , the development of this movie happened when production of the TV show was on the shelf due to the strike . And so they're like, what if we did a movie instead ? And so like they clearly did, right? They clearly had some ideas that they were kicking around and were like, let's make that now maybe this is I thought I saw a comment too that they were like planning on doing a fourth season , but then they kind of shifted ge working on a movie. I mean, we thought this was a TV show until you guys said it was gonna be the movie theaters originally anyways. So yeah. Until you were in the car on the way to the can't we just watch this on TV? Yeah. We're going to a big TV. I don't understand. I got it and it's outside. Yeah. But yeah, I mean fair, I think you're right. There's clearly two different arcs glued together . But I think it works relatively well . Like it is the usual Star Wars thing we're going to go over here. We're going to over here, we're going to go over here. We're going to go over here. But like it was fun and I'll talk about my favorite part later. And went in with incredibly low expectations and I was very happy . I think that I did exactly that Zoocat. I was worried it was going to be not good and And I was worried that it would be like the Book of Bovet. Honestly, I go through a lot of life now, concerned that whatever will happen to me next will be in any way evocative of the Book of Boba Vett. Evocative . That has to be the fastest time to go political in this podcast yet. Dan is covering his face . But so it does feel like two episodes stitched together. There's even kind of like a middle part where they have like an intermission or something. That said, they would have been if they were freestanding episodes pretty solid episodes the Manalorian. I agree with that. And they also show that they are expensive . Like there's a lot of set pieces, a lot of stuff slowly scenes. There's scenes with lots of I don't know if they're CGI or extras or whatnot, they're urban scenes with a zillion people people it looks expensive . I think it's always a little challenging when you have any kind of movie based on a TV show in terms of like what are they going to do with that? And there've even been a variety of TV shows where they've done some kind of like we're going to come back and do a movie and it's like it's just a long episode and sometimes it's a long episode that doesn't have anything to say or do I just watch ed the finale final movie that concludes a Peaky Blinders show on an airplane . And this is not a podcast about that . But it could be but it could be . They did spend about as much on this movie as an entire season three hundred . According to Wikipedia , one hundred sixty five million dollars. I overshot that . Yeah, pretty cheap for movie days. Well, the question is still and it's very cheap for a Star Wars movie. And good job, then they'll make a profit on this. Well, they definitely still used so far office. The box office has not been astounding quite yet. I think they haven't seen it's only Friday as we record this. So I don't think the you know we won't know until the weekend the preview numbers my understanding were were lower than solo for the Thursday night Yeah, the movter was not it was not it was not I was a little worried. It is a Thurs day, so you know , but it's also like this is the first Star Wars movie in seventh year Memorial Day weekend. It's gonna be bad weather in New England and like I think a lot I don't know . I don't know. Yeah. I hope it does well enough to do to get more for what you need these days to like break even is actually lower than it used to be, I think, because the film industry in general has not been as overperforming in the past , you've been into like double. Yeah, I thought double was the like that I mean solo barometer broke even as a movie. Yes, it was three hundred economics. I still I want to go read some articles about like because the write offs they do and the games we can play. Yeah, yeah, there's all sorts of I don't trust any of the reporting on it. But literally a thing called Dollywood accounting. Yeah the box office is a matter of record at least. That is a thing that they can track. Whether that makes the money back or not, you're right. That's entirely about the accounting. You can barometer the box office, but the box offices are much lower now than they were back in the pandemic. Yeah. So they're saying I was reading about the , I think Gen Z tends to go to the movies a lot more. Like there is a resurgence in going to the movies. Sure. It's just not where it was before the past. No, I agree on that. I totally agree. But it was I had a lot of fun going to the movies. Like Din and I were talking after we saw the movie Tony like, I don't know what your childhood was was like. I raped by wolves. But no, we used to go to the movies really often, at least once a month. Interesting. I was raped by hippies. So no , but in our in our age years, we did go to the movies Dan. You okay. You can us. At least once. That was an unnecessary shot at Dan Yeah, I would say I don't know if you were thinking . I feel like you like the history of being taken to a lot of movies by kids as a kid. That was not a thing sometimes but not as much as you, I think, but I went we went on once a month or two, maybe. And you know, I think about the movies that I would have seen in theaters as a kid and they would have been like family children's movies, you know, your Ninja Turtles, your never ending stories and things like that. It would have been my dad taking us to see all those. I didn't get to a lot of those, but I did get like more of my memories are about being like a teenager where my parents would take me to things that were like a little more like I remember going to like Apollo thirteen or Amistad or stuff like that that's like sort of you know big title like Oscary Bait kind of stuff. One of my concert s could have sounded exact opposite of a hippie is at the Yacht Club we were part of growing up of Man, I wish I had a soundboard for this episode . No, they would it was they had a beautiful line. Is this a wait, was that a joke? No, it's not a joke, Tony. That's why my parents met was racing boats. And so there's five yacht clubs in Marblehead, right? It's very common. You gotta be a member of at least two or three . But they once a week, I think on Friday Saturday night, they would put up a projector screen , like a big, big projector screen and they had like beautiful lawn everyone would bring their blankets and like popcorn and live pops. And I remember like that's where I saw most of the oh Jack Ryan movies like they did like Jack Ryan movies all the time. All right, back to the Mandalorian and Gray . We have not talked about in adventures about happening on the fifteen minutes of a podcast. Yeah . Tony's rolling his eyes. I thought for a second it's so funny. I want to be clear. I'm rolling my eyes at all of us. Yeah, I don't want it to feel directed just I just want to add, I saw Tony take a drink of a Coke or but in my peripheral vision just because I couldn't see it and I got the glint of it. I honestly thought he had a dumber of whiskey and I was like, I cannot believe we've tried it . Not that bad . Anyway, the Mandalorianro Ggu, a feature film version of the Mandalorian. Hey, where did we leave the Mandalorian the last time we saw him? He was like a Mandalor? No, he was in his Mandalorian house. Yeah, he was. Was Mandalori season two or season three? That was season three . Also, I think some people like me occasionally forget there are as few seasons of this show as there actually have been. She Dan, is it because there's another show that has episodes of this show crammed into that part of it. But I heard our friend, John Syracusea mentioned that he hadn't been super into the Mandalorian for the last couple seasons. I was like, That's true. The show, man. Yeah, I don't remember where. I do recall remember you guys telling me resetting like we're just resetting the entire show. It's like, okay, great, so you don't really need to know anything. It's kind of like that entire Mandalore plot never happened. Also kind of totally forgot this happens after Return of the Jedi. Like again like, because again we had just been watching Mal Mall. My sense of time has become very loose of like when all these things and so this is concurrent we believe with the Ahsoka show . Yes . Well we know because Ahsoka was in the Mandalorian episodes . Oh, that's right, she was. She was in the orthos of the Boba Fed anyways. She shows up to talk to Luke about Grogu and she also first shows up. She shows up when they had ep theisode where they're like at the with the bell ringing in the like the mining town this is all happening at the same time. Yeah my god . So just think of it as the new I think it's like the new Republic is the. This new Republic er a. Don't get too, you know, stuff's happening on the outer rim. Like there's no mailing lists. Don't worry too much about exactly who's where . Like, you know , yeah. Yeah , yeah. Question. We haven't done a movie yet before. Do we do a recap or do we just dive into it? Because I have opinions . It's like it seems silly to recap an entire movie. Yeah. And yet, that's what we're about to do Should I see if I can do it real fast? Yes. All right, here we go. The Mandalorian has taken out imperial warlords for the new Republic. I forget do we interrupt recaps? Sorry, hold on revised question. I forget, are we supposed to interrupt recaps? No, we're not supposed to do anything. That's how fast you want me to do it. We're all going to prepare statements for any of our podcasts and just read them. Anyways, he captures an imperial war lord on a snowy planet. Doesn't capture. You're right. He kills an imperial warlord that he was supposed to capture. He goes back to meet our friend Colonel Ward iglass Weaver Weaver. She basically tells him we need to track down this one like our high ranking, most high ranking imperial warlord. I want to go to that bar. That bar looks awesome. It's clearly a pile we have seen. I don't think we're like , it just looks great. I want to go to like a nice beach bar. But we've never seen this guy and in order to find out what he looks like, you need to go deal with these two hut twins that we've the New Republic has been cozying up to for intel. From an actual cards , which may be well, that's the thing. Are you familiar with that? From like the Iraq War ? From other war? Yeah, that was oh yeah, that's a standard thing is you give soldiers planned soldiers and all the high guard targets are perfect targets other than oh yeah, I think I actually get snapped one of those from the Iraq W ar? Yes . I remember a piece of currency with him Hussein on it somewhere if I can find that. Anyways , so many jokes I could have made there that I didn't. Your friend gave me us to. It's fine. That's not in your friend your friend Saddam Hussein. No, no, no, no. It's a long story. It's fine. Guys, it was okay. It was like nineteen ninety three. He was good then yeah. Yeah. Doing business with my dad's no big deal. We met at the yard. That is a very clever tactic. You actually have real playing cards. Yeah, that's how they know what they look like. Anyways, so they send them off technically in the hats. Yep The Hutts who briefly appear and I believe in Book of Boba Fett. That's right . They are I can't remember the name. They're the twins. They're the twins. Yeah, that's the name. They are Jabba's brother and sister. Somehow related, potentially just by blood or marriage. Just by blood. That's all . The deal is they want they want Mando to rescue their nephew , Rada, who is on the Moon of Shikari and that if he does that, then they'll tell him what this guy whose name is Coin looks like. And apparently we're just interrupting you. So here we go . And they show us an image of him as he appea red in the Star Wars Clone Wars. I was gonna say I remember one million years ago. What are we a reminder for the people who remember that movie and nothing else ? Do you have a picture of him? Yes we do. Here's a picture of a baby. Good luck . He looks not like that. He returns a baby hunt for a hut. Good luck. Also apparently, well jumping ahead, a well known well known hut. So Mando's off to Shikari , a moon that I don't believe we've ever been before. Okay. You don't know Hudstone lie, is that what you're saying? It was going to go Shakaria. Yeah. On there he befriends a vendor of fast food voiced by Oscar winning director Martin Scorsese . What in his star wars? Did he lose? Maybe just get friends with Fabro. Is he just friends with I think they were friends? Even more to the point, as I found out today, the name of that character is Hugo Durant . The name of John Favreau's character from Solo who is of the same species is named Rio Durant. potentially related . This one got the short end of the stick and serves food in a fast food stall on Shikari. Well, the other one dies at right. So yeah, but he was like a thief, so you know, automatically cooler. speed with a recap. Let's go. Mando gets info from him about a bar called Salt , which is run by Lord Janu . Sorry, this jrope bugged me to no end. It was like, we've got two important guys . They're not related trust me. They're not they're totally different people. This guy who runs a pit fighting ring and this high ranking imperial . Totally different people. I thought they were people until the big reel . Yeah, I did not. Dancing also mad about the names of the actor because the name of the guy is Johnny Coin and he plays a character named Johnny Coying . Sometimes coming up names is really hard. The most Star Warsy thing ever. We changed it to a m Anyways, Mana goes to this bar. He beats up everybody in there because it's a bar in this movie where really nice tiling. No, I remember this from the dance at the recap . If you're gonna throw anything, I'm going to talk about the tiling if you have to name all the characters, I'm gonna talk about all the set design. So he beats them up and then it gets called off by Lord Ajanu. Tries to make a deal with him because he wants to buy out R oda's contract. Roda only has one match left . I guess he goes, does he find Roda before this? I guess he does find Roda that finds Roda Roda doesn't want to be rescued because he's only got one fight left in his contract and then he'll be a free hut and he can do whatever he wants. And he actually says from inside the jail from the jail so yeah, but he's also very nice to Grogu and gives him snacks . So he's not all bad So yes, as I said, he tries to buy the contract out from January, finds out that Janu's gonna pit him in a giant match to Jarach Mouth to the death . He goes back and tries to rescue Rata by telling him he's going to get killed and Rada betrays him and he gets Mando gets gassed and knocked out and then thrown into the ring where he and Rata mice must fight all of the monsters from the chessboard in the original Star Wars . But eventually they escape while all the monsters wreak havoc throughout the city and it turns briefly into a Jurassic Park movie. I will come back and talk about this later, but keep going Dan They escape Rada tells Mando that essentially his uncle and aunt actually just want to kill him because they want Jabba's they want Jaba's heir out of the way. So instead goes back and gets coin who Rada identifies as Lord Janu is the warlord you're looking for convenient so they go back, kidnap him from his own house killing all his stormtroopers and bring him back to the new republic where honestly probably the most boring action set piece in the whole thing. Yeah , because there's so many other more interesting that shoot a shootout in generic space mansion is comparatively less. Get some fun stuff to do but, that's most of it. Oh yeah, Zeb's here. Zebs here. And we have that great missile. We'll go talk to it . Anyways, they go back to the new Republic. Sagorny Weaver's a little peeve that they like he basically tanked this relationship with the twins, but he is , you know, putting Roda on a ship to get out of there and basically go hide . And then the movie ends episode two. Episode two. Yeah. Do you want to do episode two? Do you want to do episode two? Let's see if I can do it. All right . So episode two is we're out at the ranch late at night. He's fixing up the ship. He as part of his payment, he got a new ship that's basically the rage for a crest but in good shape. He's trying to make a good pass. Good news, good news, Lego set and toy set builders. Somebody looks down at their razor crest. They've smashed for the hammer and goes, come on Here's a couple of yellow bricks to fix it. So you knew one . And then late at night in the rain, an assassin shows up who I thrushed off this entire movie was a droid, but apparently was not a droid with his droids like hell hound and it turns out and he manages to kidnap Mando but not before Grogu and three Babu Fricks steal away. Babus frick. But one Babus Frick is a point where is that what it that's going? No, this player they're at Zelens for the Nab ric's Attorneys generals. Yeah. They all thank you. It's kidnapped by the Hellhound and whisked away. And so the Babu's frick Love it. Keep going, yo. Yep. And the Grogu chase after them in their own tiny little spaceship . Mando is taken to the twins, where he discovers that Rada has also been found by the gun they got the gunrunner and they found Rada and they're now going to slowly torture him for the next few hundred years until he dies Seems unnecessary. Necessary. And then they throw him in a sorry what all huts do is they drop them into a pit. This one has water with like little lizard guys who kills the lizard guys and then a giant snake dragon shows up which gets a bite on Mando but just before it's going to kill Mando, we discover that Grogu and the Bobby Spricks have found him and escape with him and the we see them all get back on their tiny little spaceship and Mando realizes oh no too late he can't get on the spaceship either because it's too small for him . That is a stupid and yet hilarious plot to I really enjoyed it and so he begins slowly shooting and killing all the droids or chasing after them to let his little boy, beloved son and the Babosh escape, and then he slowly collapses and dies, or prehares to die. I was very convinced he was going to die . But then Grogu shows up. It turns out he didn't get on the spaceship and then we have a very different movie. And this was my best part of the movie. This is the best part of the movie where Grogu spends many days and there's no talking looking after a basically comotose mando le. Kind of a wild change after like everything in this movie has been like go action. Set peace, set piece, set peace. We've got to go somewhere we a had bunch gu guy we got to shoot ay we got to lift things up and now it's like let's just hang out hanging out for like gathering water, doing some re nown, hanging out I am going to build a literal hut. We are putting down roots here. I wonder if it's like an instinct that like that creature has hunting a hutting instinct, but not a hut . That's good. Because it's a yodahunt. It's a good hut. So eventually the swamp guy we talk'll about gives Skrogoose the medicine. It saves Mando, Mando wakes up . They find a ship that is full of guns, they get all the guns, they go back to kill all the huts , they basically do that. They save Rada and then lo and behold at the last minute of the not the empire sorry, the rebels come in, the new Republic come in and basically all the directors flying their ex weeks and blow everything up including, some pretty intense carpet bombing . And they escape. Are we are we the good guys? Never the good guys . And they escape and they all go back to the new Republic . And I forget how the movie ends. Sigorney Weaver explains that it's okay that they just did the thing because of reasons and then and then go fly ing Radijoins the rebellion and joining the Republic. Yep. Exactly. You're right. They're not a rebellion anymore. They're new republic. And Krogu and Mando go, I guess they go to where the last episode ended where they're back at their homestead on Navarro , right? Yeah. We don't see it, but they just jump back toed hyperspace. Yeah , I thought there was even a shot of the homeset. Maybe I'm imagining on but not he lets him push the button. He lets him push the hyper. So yeah, you know , I thought it was , you know , in a way, nothing changes in the Mandalorian continuity, right? Nothing there's no there's no events from this that will need to be dealt with later. No . Kroger does not think I Vandalorian did not die. Sure look like he could, didn't . Grogu does not speak or use a new force power or anything. Didn't he do the healing? Had we seen the healing before? Yes, yes. Yes. In the Carl Weather Season one. Yeah. I was wondering if I've seen them before you know why it was so long ago. He does the healing to Carl Weather 's Yeah before the Ryla Ray and Kylo Ro Wren healing thing. Yeah. So first healing was shown in the Mandalorian before it was shown in a movie. It makes sense. You should be able to force heal. I've always wondered. I mean, you've been doing it in video games for forever, so yeah. Yeah, exactly . But you can't force , you can force heal a wound clothes, but you can't force antitoxin , you know . So you should still force healing toys We should still go to a health professional? Absolutely. More lizard in the swamp. Lizard swamp. Groguzo I think is more effective at using his force powers. We saw that. Yeah, he catches rada at one point falling in the pitch. Yes, he does . I wasn't surprised how much rado we got. I did not rotate voiced by Jeremy Allen White who at no time expresses a desire to open a restaurant . Yeah, I thought I guess I was thinking I would kind of hear more of Jeremy Allen Wh ite, but I feel like they've run his voice through some hunting synthesis. I got it every once in a while, there are a couple other pronunciations that I like and I can kind of hear it. But then yeah, it was surprised. I was surprised how much he's in that because he's in do not expect . I like how they animate him. I mean , again, a creature that is not anything like any real animal on Earth and he like rolls around and he's got this upper body strength and they I thought that was pretty impressive. That was cool. Yeah. I also like a hut that does not want to be a crime boss. Yeah, like that and wants to , but isn't totally sure what he wants to do in life 'cause like it seems like opportunities . Yeah, and it's the Star Wars thing where it's like we've seen one of these things or a couple of them and they're all ex actly and it's like Klingons Surely they can't all be ex act. Not all Klingons can be warriors, Donald Frenchi can be merchants. Clearly the hotside gets something like you can't become a crime lord just by being like a jerk. So like I was like do they pilot things? But I like I really liked to see like the fighting styles and see him doing the rolling. I that h wasope like they clearly thought about it and it was kind of cool to see. Yeah, I guess that is how Hupt would fight. I never I'm not sure I will ever quite get over having the Hutts speak English. It just felt it's weird , but like it was fine. I liked him. He was an interesting character . He was one of the more interesting characters in the movie . And I thought that it was kind of like you said, it was kind of cool to have a story about somebody who felt like they didn't, you know, want to follow in their family path. I thought that would like added a little dimension to this that otherwise , you know , look, I went in with probably slightly higher expectations than both of you. Not like they were super high, just like they were not very extremely low. And I came out thinking that I guess about met my mid level expectations , I feel like I have a few nitpicks which are, I think mainly most of the dialogue is bad It's just great. It's just it's very inane. Yes, let's get out of here. Let's go do this. Let's go like there's not a lot of like super memorable lines or anything that said, I think what the strength of the movie is as Kat said, I thought that I would have started the movie within the second part where basically it's a movie about Mando getting kidnapped and Grogu having to rescue him because I loved watching all the Grogu stuff and working with the NZLENs and everything. It's funny. Is that what they're actually calling? Yes. Thank you. That was frick if you prefer. I think that part of the movie actually is really it's really engaging in a way that like, even though I thought like analytically some of the early parts are kind of fun, they have very little weight because you don't really have there's no stakes in the first half of that movie really. Look at a meet rott though, which is nice. Let's look at that opening sequence. There's some cool stunts in that opening sequence, but it doesn't it doesn't mean anything. The opening sequence felt like one of those like at the start of a James Bond movie where you have like a fifteen minute thing before the movie actually starts . And it'll be fun and interesting but no consequence felt the same way and I think one because it happens before he even saw the Mandalorian title and to just with the AT or the ATST skiing basically down the mountains like this I have seen this James Bond movie actually It was on a cello though. Yeah , no, I agree with you. I think my favorite part of the movie was the grogu sort of interlude and just like figuring out the problems and how he deals like and just like how he solves problems and thinks about problems and just like and then also the childlike wandery house like the light the goal in the dark bugs, like little things like that loved it. And it is just like basically like we have spent years perfecting the CGI and puppetry that worked together to make baby Yoda a star let us let us just take a parade walk of doing like that for like a big but they did a really good job. it Like could have been cringey, it could have been like childish. Like they did a really nice job of staying true to that character. And I think that actually is really hard in how to show some restraint. Yeah. And I think they did a really good job of that. And it's an interesting perspective of the story to do where it's like , well he's tiny and he has force powers but also like he can't talk and he can't get by in the world necessarily by himself but what happens when his protector is taken out? Like I even thought I thought that scene where Embo who,'s the other bounty hunter comes to take off the Mandalorian and like, I found that scene legitimately like, oh, it felt tensiony, right? Because like what is going to happen here? And then when he gets caught, I was legit surprised when he step likes in that net or whatever and you're like, wait, the main lawyer and he's gonna get out of this right nope, we're throwing a ship. We're going to go. Turns out it's pretty easy to catch man down. They do it twice. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they literally never they never take his armor, though. They're really nice like that. The hots take his hat at one point like ha , we took my hat. Now you're going to dishonored it . I literally have to murder all of you now. Well, that's what I wonder if people is it professional courtesy? I'm not gonna one bouting under another. I'll lock you up but I'm not taking your hat or the knowledge that like my job is just to deliver you. Yeah , you may get out later and I know that if I see your face, I am dead. I really like that theory Tony. That makes actually all of the not taking the arm off be a lot more rational. Well, it just seems like even I don't know, I mean, what's the fight guy? I'm willing to believe, for example, that the imperial guy who's also a fight promoter, that character doesn't really make sense now they're getting strengthy But like, I think he maybe believes like, oh, maybe this guy will fight for me. He seems he really seems to think if he pays that guy enough money that pays man to enough money, he'll want to become a gladiator , which he does not I do like ever been a go had hater . I do like the kind of plot twist of like people think he's working for the twins and he's like, I'm not working for the twins. I'm working for the new Republic. Like that is a , you know, an interesting conundrum to put this guy in who has, you know, who has this code, who doesn't work for the bad guys anymore, but then kind of ends up , you know, yeah, you know, the scenes where Rada is like , you know, you know you're a terrible person, right? He's like, No, you don't understand. There's a whole show about me. I'm a good guy . Well, similarly kind of like we can talk this out. It's like, you know, I'm going to be dead soon. And he's like, No, I've actually stood the mov inie. They're gonna just torture you for hundreds of years. It's okay The dynamic too, I think a little bit with Sagorni Weaver, where he's like, I'm independent. And she's like, Yeah, whatever. And like, yeah, you get this kind of the impression and you know picking up kind of where the series left off is like, well, okay, he was just sort of independently running around collecting bounties , but like, who does he kind of work for? Like the newer potential say on the de facto authority and so now he is sort of by necessity allied with the quote unquote good guys Zev sure picks him up a lot for an independent guy . Yeah, he liked them being partners, but it felt like he's getting more rebellion. Yeah. I didn't think we'd get so much Zev either. That was nice. It's great to get Ze, you know. And they use him in a well, good way too. Great to see him actually fighting too in the in the I guess the coins palace with his cool little That was his one Yeah set piece, I guess. Yeah 'cause we I'm trying to remember we saw him he had like basically cameo cameo. Was that in the Asoka show or the book of Boba Fett? I think it was in either the Book of Boba Fett or Mandalorian . It was like I feel like we were frustrated that he didn't do anything. I think we saw him on this planet before. We knew he was with his hold of the bar yeah. Yeah The other thing I really enjoyed, I thought the music was excellent. Yeah, I listen to the soundtrack today. It's really good. Really, really good. And I think the classic little big stuff , the Foley work too, like every time you heard that Buba Manda Walk, you heard the Spurs. But then like when they're on the digital planet or the night planet, like that very nineteen eight ies sci fi technico was awesome. Just like a really fun mix and then Tronica Turn your point out the Zydico song at the very end. Yeah, I think I just had Zydico, I think I met Klesmer when I did it, but like there's some cross over there? There is yeah, that one it was pretty great. Yeah, Ludwig Gorinsen did not do the most recent season of the Malorian, I think because he had some scheduling conflicts. And also I can understand him feeling like he kind of nail ed that like in the first two seasons of it was like, yeah, dude, you did a great job. Those first two seasons scores are actually really incredible. I can understand you being like, I'm onto a new challenge, but it's nice that they got him back for the movie because I think he does have a great just a great ear for it. I saw a very funny article today. I don't know if it was recent or not on Polygon that was talking about how the great triumph of the Mandalorian and he's like and the person writing it was like, I don't mean the movie, and I'm not talking about the show. I'm talking about the one track, the Mandalorian Firefick Gorinson, which manages to do this incredible musical journey. It is an incredible track. Every time it comes up on my shuffle list, I'm like, man, this is a good song. , I mean, it is iconic in a way that you did not think anybody but John Williams could pull off an iconic Star Wars. It's iconic in such a different way too. It's so not a John Williams song. Yeah . Tony, you mentioned this like they definitely did spend a lot more money. There is some cinematic stuff to this . They have a like, I think they do a lot of these sort of set extensions where they build a set and then fill in the back with kind of digital mats or whatever. I still felt at times it's a very it's a very close shot movie in a lot of places . There's not a lot of wide shots, I think, especially in the act the action ion tends to be very tight there was I think there was there's a lot of scenes with Mando and Rada and there was one particular scene where like they're never in the frame together , which felt like this was done for budget reasons. In a way that's distracting because you would usually have at least one shot where you would show the two people talking to each other . Yeah, I mean, it is the cheapest Star Wars movie ever made, right? Right. I mean, it still looks pretty modern for what it is . I think not modern not compared to I think a new hope. So take that a new hope. No , just for infl ation. I don't know. Yeah. I did like the the giant robots that guard the huts. Those were I think done with were they done with stop motion? They certainly were I think that was what I heard really. I mean looked very stop motion. So even if it wasn't done strictly a stop motion, it was intended to be an homage to stop motion. I don't know which one I did were like I didn't get that but I just got they were very clunky. They were really good. I love the whole I, mean the HUTs have this robot army, which is also convenient because we're going to display some later. We don't want to say you have any innocent people. But I love the robot army that's like Frankenstein together, battle droids all kinds of disease but like battle droids who have like capes with feathers furry jackets and it's like the theater kid troop from from the Battle Droid Army . You mentioned to us the number of things that you thought were insp ired by Ralph McCorey concept and there are definitely a bunch here. And they're like, I think they've mined that heavily over the years . There's some stuff in rebels that's definitely pulled from it and like in other places. I mean, Zev is basically they took a reject ion. They took a rejected chupaca design and they're like we can still use that . They use every part of the concept art . I think that this one of the places this movie does succeed for the most part is in looking very Star Wars y in terms of like its we don't go to Tattooine. Don't go to Tatooine go to Tatooine. I will make war any desert. One comment there that I actually thought was my least favorite , which was in the very opening scene where they have those guys sitting around the table who are doing tribute. It's like four perfectly like just ordinary humans and then one dude who's a human with like a pig snout nose like one quarter knot that and I looked at that guy knot and thought to myself that guy feels a little star trekky. It feels like he wandered into the wrong the wrong. It's also very much like a Star Trek that's also the bajoran to like we're just forgetting that's it. Yeah. Also like I think the monsters were really interesting in this. I think we saw a lot of new things we're talking about. Like it was very like they literally pulled creatures from the dark bo ard . I thought the lizard creatures are great. I love when they did like the battle droid roll to attack them inside the gun scary. Like yeah, it was really the lizard people are from a character that is like I went back and checked, does actually appear in return the Shedi. Super brief. Oh yeah, check this out. The name of them is ridiculous Amon there's no there's an Adaman holding a spear standing next to Hanselo incarnate but he's like in a shadow and but they made action figures of everybody who was in Jabu's palace and clearly somebody who made this movie was like, This is my favorite action figure. So now there's ten of them in this movie Because they're weird. I mean, they're weird. I mean, 'cause they're like a snake fl atworm kind of I loved it. I hate it. I love it. They're very action figure like monsters. Oh, they're like yeah, like or . They did, they did update them a little bit. The action figure is like neon yellow and green. And these are like snakes. Yeah, we were deciding whether or not 'cause when we came home the next day our son said next time we have the movie he wants to go see it and we're like, can you see this movie? And I was like, I think I think I could have seen this mov ie. And then Dan pointed out all the scary things and all the scary monsters. And I was like, Dan then recounted the movie that you had just seen to you. Well, I remember like how scared the Rancor used to make me as a kid . So I was like, yeah, I guess I guess we can't our son can't see this movie He's not even four. But it was like, it's like Grogu's cute and funny. You originally edited cut . Cat, you just show your child he walks the caravan of courage and tells the child . Her entire family dies . Oh, I wanted to talk about that . You mentioned the Dejeric Board and we said we come back to this , the scene where all the monsters get out and they just they're like okay. And my favorite bit is there is one of the monsters breaks onto a train and speed ing. That monster lives on that train now . He has a job. He commutes to the city nine to five . This is my only I actually have a legitimate complaint about this one, which is they let them monsters get out and our protagonist does not care. We never talk about it. We literally let these monsters terrorize the city. No one cares. So that like that impacted me so much when I saw the movie is like, does Mando not care if it's not getting paid that like for the rest of the movie when people were in peril, I was like, Is Mando just gonna walk away from the scene? So when like I thought Mando was going to die, I was like, well, I guess Manda will die and I guess we'll just leave Roda in prison forever. And I thought that was gonna happen. And then when Grogu rescues Mando and they think about leaving, I was like, well, I guess they will just leave Rada behind because like that's just who Maxwell is now. I'm sometimes worried that you're a person who's never seen a movie before . So like I was I was really upset. They just let the monsters remain. I like that was a character beat and not just laziness and block yet. You needed a scene where the space police swooped and be like, job done. All the monsters have been contained. Moving can continue now. Yes. 'Cause like what happens to Baby Crito? His mom took him and ran away. They're fine. Maybe they got on the train later. Yeah, they need to buy a new stroller though. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, maybe they should they should get a slightly more affordable one that doesn't go jet speed Did he pull the same thing that Mando did with all the engines where he removed all the safety on the stroller? Yeah . Yeah . I did enjoy him like the that was a scene that I kind of enjoyed, which was where he's trying to fly it, but the problem is that they've made it too safe because it's like yeah he's moded his and it's like oh yeah I took off all the safeties I kind of enjoyed that aspect of it because we don't get a lot of dog bites. That one's kind of fun though. There are some places where the writing is just a little sloppy. I mean, even the like the new republic shows up at the end and blows everything up and I was like, do they do they need to blow everything up? Like I think they just got away. Do they have jurisdiction? Did they just commit some sort of like war crime? Yep. Yeah. Are they is the newer Republic now at war with the hut? I try to tell I think the challenge they were very when Mando is walking into the hut base, there's all the side rooms with huts like you wouldn't see anything. Kill a lot of huts and things. No, they were not shown when the place gets blown out because yeah , they had like escape slides. Yeah. No, they're all fine cat . I think it's the challenge of both wanting to imply that your government that has replaced the empire is, you know, pure as driven snow but also, we need to acknowledge that nobody's pure like this is the Jedi problem all over again. It's like are they the good guys or are they just more just same? How long does the Dew Republic need to be in power before they commit a war crime . I would argue not very long. On the way to becoming the new Republic? Yeah. Is it basically we're not allowed to have a Star Wars movie without a big explosion at the end? Yes , so this is what you're gonna get . I think so. That was my reading. It was just felt very convenient in terms of where 'cause they didn't really do anything , DSX swing , if you will. What's called Sea Xman's Flight. Yeah , also all those directors need jobs as cameos . Yeah . For anyone who didn't catch it, the X wing pilots are all I believe all more except for a few notable exceptions are people who are directors of episodes of the Mandalorian, which was kind of been previously established as like X wing pilots. They showed up in a bunch of the Mandalorian episodes too. So economy of directors and characters . Yeah . Anyway, so yeah, other thoughts. Anything else you want to say about the movie ? I think it's fun. I think it's a very star warsy movie. I would love to see, I mean, I think it would be nice if we got a you know, mid mid tier Star Wars movie every couple years instead of no Star Wars for seven years . Yeah , you know . Well, we get another one next year with Starfight er , which I don't think we know very much about still . I kind of want to think, you know, we talked about this a little bit when we talked about the trailer, but I felt like they very much aimed for the like Saturday morning cereal feel with this. And I think it kind of delivered on that like because if like you said, everything resets to the end, right? And like we're back to the next thing , which is a little different, I think, from the classic like cereals where stuff did like you know, the episode four episode five, stuff did progress, right? But like this feels very much like Saturday morning cartoon to me , you know, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a more momentous Star Wars, you know, movie that moves the needle a little bit because like you said, nothing in this movie really matters. It doesn't make a huge difference in the overwhelming continuity, but I still think it's good to have a movie where I think as you point out, Tony, like the stakes are not about. We've got to save the galaxy.. It was great I think for that , the small stakes were great. I think the fighting choreography was pretty good . But yeah, I enjoyed the small stakes movie. I'd love to see a small stakes movie that isn't about explosions, and much more, I think that's what Skeleton Crew really was. I think this movie did fail the Beckdell test . I think there's Jessie Courney Weaver talk to anyone who's not Mando. There might be is there only one female pilot? Is she the only female pilot? Yeah. Those are two pigphon pads. Yeah. So I think that Yeah, they're a little short on female characters. All the Anzelians are voiced by a woman ,ley Shir Henderson, Scottish actress . She played Moaning Myrtle in the process . Yeah, that's a good point. I agree with you. I'd like to see a movie that has like smaller stakes, but is , you know, perhaps more in the Andor like vibe. Like, I think you could do an interesting movie of that kind. I basically I'm telling you, I want the legal drama. I want a few good s. Like the Nuremberg trials but for the Empire . Like I do appreciate that you've elevated it because it used to be before you wanted Star Wars jag ged. And I was like, oh, okay. But if I'm willing to I mean, I would still take your prestige drama is the nerve. Yeah, I appreciate that your tastes are fine. Yeah, if you're into a movie though, you can't do like jag, you got to do essentially a few good lines. I do like the idea of playing a little more than do jag. I do like the idea of slaying a little more gray area rather than like, I need to find these imperial warlords. Just look for the evilest character you can find that probably a powerful imperial warlord. Kat, not that I don't think they could do a good movie around that, but I feel like they're not going to do any Star Wars movie unfortunately that they can't sell to kids . And it is it is a little weird because scene this is like a small Star Wars movie , but there's still like a giant marketing campaign around it . Like my various media feeds are full stuffed with like you need to buy like Mandalorian rugs for your house that I was like , no, I do not. But it's considering it . You know, like, you know, here is here is every conceivable thing you could ever own in your home or car. I guess the merchandise did I see the popcorn buckets last night? No, I didn't do were they were yeah there's Mando helmet and pretty good. I was like, what was the legal drama that we saw recently with Keither Summerland? You're thinking of the Cane Mutiny. The Cane Mut iny, it happens in a single courtroom the entire time. Yeah, I think you're missing the point in Star Wars. Yeah, no, but I'm saying , I think you could do it pretty cheaply. Okay, it's on tattooine I just said like we need to be one room and a really good script . Yeah, I mean that's true of anything. Of any good movie. Yeah, I mean I think you think the secret to making good movies is making good movies . Yeah Hot take , hot take. Good scripts go a long way. What if we got a good script and then like a good director and then some really good actors? That sounds expensive. Oh, nevermind. What if we cut all the CGI ? Again, I don't think there's any CGI in guys, what do you think? twelve angry men but they're all Rhodeians . I would watch that. I would lend you watch that angry Rhodeians . It's all captioned the whole thing . One of them there snouts are just sorry . Yeah, the one Rhodeian who changes all their minds, Greet him, and then he goes out and gets shot the next day. It's a real dark. As a student made film, I wanna make that. I want to make that movie these are bad impulses. Push them down deep inside yourself. Such a good idea. The world is the world is not ready for that she's really losing it over here on this one . I may have killed Kat. I apologize . Oh, how would that movie so bad? Okay , let's do should we address some mail? Yeah, let's address some mail or it's a mail that's addressed us. We can also address it. If you Dan, do we have listener mail? We have covered this is this is vamping. Well, Dan looks on his phone. If you would like to reach out . What if I wouldn't? Well, then you have to do anything. It's easy. If you do want to reach out to us, we are at ACP as Zeplin Daflights on Masadon at ACP dot the incarnable dot com on blue sky and ACP at the Incarpible. com via email. Kat, you need to stop thinking about twelve angry Verdians now . She can't. You need to breathe . Twelve Angry Rodians . Vodka . As I learned this week, dot vodka, a valid top level domain. Really? Yes . All right , Illitrate writes olives, olive emoji, are the emperor I forgot about her olive are the emperor Palpatine of Foodstuffs. Somehow they always appear, which is a surprise to be sure and never a welcome one. I want you all to know all of you, but mainly just cat. All the rest of you , the rest of you, I apologize. You're here trapped with me . Kat, I want you to know that I was at a family gathering where there was food as happens at gatherings. Specifically, there was like there was bean . Yeah, this is a normal story. There was like a bean dip type thing and that bean dip included a heavy amount of black olives. Like normally seven layer diffusion is black olives. And it was that. I don't know if it was seven. Maybe it was only five. We were in Nebraska. I don't know, you know, traditional layers. All the layers have reached there yet. Mostly corn. Normally I would just not, I would steer clear of that because olives are bad. I had some I had some of the bean dip with olives that I thought of you. Did you enjoy it? No . Why did you eat it? That's why that's why I thought of you that I just felt I felt like you would feel bad if I didn't eat some of it. No, I don't care if you don't like it, don't eat it. Well, I wish I had that information at the time . Michael, I guess I should have called next time Cole. Michael writes a great show and really enjoyed your chats agreed on how applauding like PLOD not TT plotting Vader is so much scarier . The force unleashed game where you play as Vader, and it's like driving a telekinetic tank hashtag team Fuji apple because we were done with all of them so we moved on . We got a recognition for a Kon sey apple in our discord. I've never seen a Consey apple for sale. We should keep an eye out for it. KAN ZI GH Tim writes, great series on Mall. I did chuckle about the extensive discussion about which bodies we did and did not see in a show named after a character infamous for being bisected but getting better later . I guess technically we didn't see both half of them after that . Fair point, Tim. Somewhere there's another mall around there but just the legs? Just the line a different crime syndicate . Well, it's like a really it's a little lower down on the James leg up like two feet down. I could think of I heard a joke the other day I was telling I had Ciri tell Arsana joke and the joke was What is a clock's favorite time ? It's six hundred thirty, two hands down . That's pretty good. That's pretty good . Unfortunately I actually can't tell time so I have to explain it. You like my smell joke ? Ben writes actually there's two emails here, but I'm gonna read them both. Sorry, Ben. Ben writes Hi all, big fan of the podcast, question for Kat, is it okay to go right into reading The Prince or should I read The Little Prince first? Sagrona, Ben. Followed by my deepest apologies. I paused the episode and send that email and I realized you made the same joke at the end of the episode I have another confession . I was traveling. I had a lot of time and which is very Did you read the prince ? I started reading the prince. It was available on my Kindle because it's a public domain book . So I read like seventeen hundreds. I read also the chapters on it are real short. So I read like the first ten chapters of the prince and I remain confident so far in my judgment of Machiavelli as not a great guy. Did you follow it up with the little prince? Never mind. I did I've not finished the prints. I'll let you go if I ever go back to it. I was on an airplane. I was on an airplane. I make some of my worst decisions in life while I'm on an airplane Sixteenth century . Okay fifteen thirty two. I said fifteen hundreds later, but yeah. David writes subject line, pomology is a complicated profession . Hi guys, congrats on completing Maul. My favorite apple is Brayburn. It's not as tart as a granny smith, balanced with sweetness, so you can eat it fresh and has a firmer texture than Macintosh. In college, the pl ant science department ran a twenty four seven Apple vending machine. Aside from the price rising from twenty five cents to one dollar, it hasn't changed much. This is funny to me because that vending machine is at the Cornell Agricultural Life and Sciences My alma mater . Can we tell me ? I didn't know because I didn't go to the Ag School, but I went Okay, when we go to we should go there this summer. But yeah, he sent he sent a link to the Oh, this is so cool. The beloved apple vending machine, which still sells apples. So I really want to go here. We'll go back and have the apple the apple list go up, up, up, up, up, down. I'm not scrolling truth website for you on a podcast. Galas, sweet Tango, ginger gold, zester, and more. Okay, great. David adds, Dan, do you find it odd to be talking on a podcast about apples and Macintosh but unrelated to computers, much less I was gonna make that joke, but I was waiting for a pause . You got me. Star Wars, what are your takes on this announced Andor cut of Rogue One? This is the movie . They've tried to cut Rogue one to be more of an Andor finale . I haven't watched it, I doubt I will. If this is even a real thing, surely Disney will send a battalion of Clernoid troopers to DMCA from orbit, I guess we'll know in a few weeks. Food science Dave, PS Rip Spy Bot. He creeped me out until I realized Chopper was just as misanthropic but incomprehensible Thank you David. The endor I mean, the end or cut thing, there's a ton of weird Star Wars cuts that you can find. Yes, online. So I think they may try to take it down, but I don't think it's going anywhere. I mean, how do you all feel about various fan cuts? I feel like I am a person with limited time and so I don't see that . I mean, I have watched the , you know specialized fans yeah, the fan despecialized restorations . But next year they're going to actually like remaster them for real in four K, which will be better quality than ever. I was told that was never possible by people that lied to me . Does the release special editions do those count as fan cuts? No, because George Lucas a fan of Star Wars ? Seemingly I'm not gonna You know what? I think I think I think George Lucas was I am increasingly sympathetic to him, I guess the further get away foy ing the Prep trilogy, where I feel like he was put in a possible position where he was never going to make his fan base happy and he didn't know what to do . And I think he just wanted to make people happy and was not always successful at that. I don't think he is a bad guy. I think he did a lot of very good things in the world and that he's, you know, maybe an awkward guy who has a hard time communicating. And so I'm willing to forgive him for many of his crimes. I completely agree with Tony. I think it's very well said. And I think actually watching the ILM series and just seeing also how much he did and how much he was who he's telling stories for his careers for the kids and B how much he, I think gets really joy out of innovating technology. Like that was really like he I don't think I had realized until I'd seen that just how unreal was made by ILM. So like clearly it's a bias, but like how much he revolutionized and the team revolutionized filmmaking for what we know today . I mean, I think he seems almost at times befuddled by his success and because he was like weird little indie filmmaker and then he made something that turned into one of the biggest twelve trillions . And I'm sure there's been a lot of times where he has wished like I wish I had I wish this had worked out a different way. He basically didn't get to he, you know, there were a lot of movies I think he tried to make later on and he struggled with. And you know, he did not make that many movies that were not Star Wars movies. And he's still out there talking about it. I think he did a lot of work on, you know, film stuff. There's a whole museum that he just opened in LA and there was a whole thing about like is that museum going to have any Star Wars stuff in it? And he was like, it doesn't need to have any Star Wars stuff in it. And they're like, It's gonna have Star Wars stuff in it, George. Sorry. And he's like, really, does it need to? And you know, I mean I don't know. I think yeah, I mean, it would it's probably not the most exciting thing to have to no matter where you go in the world to be known for this thing that, you know, he probably wanted to do a bunch of different things. So I don't know. Yeah. So in short, George Lucas is a fan of star. Yes. That was me being Katy. Sorry. Yeah. I asked the question jokingly in the first place, yeah. I was incapable of letting it go. And then Tony, I think had one question for us too. Oh, that's right. You were going to ask us a question. A question I will pose to Dan and Kat because it was being discussed on the incomparable discord , a well meaning person basically said , Oh, there's a new Star Wars movie. Can I go see this if I haven't seen the Mantle Rai and TV show? And then there was discussion . I stated by opinion . I think you could, but should you I think you can go and let's say if you happened to the mandalar and you would know that there is basically you might be a little confused because you're like, here's Amanda Loren. You have to hopefully have some like cultural knowledge of this, even if you haven't seen the show. I think like everybody has cultural knowledge of baby Yoda, right? 'Cause you wanna know it's you need to know when it is, but the little thing at the beginning says that you can figure out the rebels. You know the huts are bad. You basically have to know pretty generous with explaining that's not other context. He's a former bounty hunter. As long as you know that's not Yoda, then I think you're totally fine It's explained. Is generous with explaining stuff. I mean, there's even the scene where the Hutts take off Vando's helmet and they're like, let us explain to you and the audience how big a deal this is case in you didn't remember the events of season three of We Mandalorian where we established a big deal to take off a Mandalorian's helmet. Code four , we paid Pedro Basqual a lot of money to be in this movie. He's gonna show his damn face at least once. I did see one review that was like disappointed that there's not very much Pedro Pascal in it and I was like, you have not seen the show Last season there was no Pedro Pascal in the entire except for voiceover, obviously, but yeah, yeah. So they got their money's worth . He showed up first We mentioned I think it is nice that they top billed both of the stunt performers as well. Yeah. I mean, Pedro Pascal has been I think very vocal about how much he like the whole Mando role is a collaboration between the three of them and how much work they do. And I think that's great. It's great to see the stunt performers elevated to that to that level of like respect because they are a huge part of this character even though Petro's the one doing the voice, but you know, he's not usually in the suit. So yeah, in turns out something you think would be okay too. I think it would be fine. I think you're right. There's not a lot of background. Like there's two different perspectives here, right? If you go in like, I've never seen Star Wars before, well, yeah, you're gonna be confused. If you've seen a bunch of Star Wars ? How did you get here? I do yeah, that's a great question. How are you on this podcast? If you've seen, you know, Star Wars movies in general, but just haven't watched any of the TV shows, I think you can figure it out. Like you've seen masked bounty hunters before like again, as Tony said, it is impossible. Might have hunted down war criminals. You know that you know the drug I mean my again our three year old has a sweatsher that is a grogu sweatshirt where there's a hood ie that has like ears off. Oh, and he has how many episodes of the Mandalorian has he seen? He's only seen the book of Boba Fett. What a weird choice . You know, he liked it. It all comes back to my problem with schools these days. He keeps writing fast . But he kept he went to pick him up yesterday and he kept putting the hood up and yelling, I'm I'm Grog, but I call him baby Yoda . I'm a little confused about the tenses and that statement. There's a lot of questions , but you know , again, so not even the three year old can escape the existence of baby Yoda. So we buy him baby Yoda stuff all the time. Well 'cause it's everywhere. Come on, it's everywhere . So yeah, I think yes, my answer is yes, you may be a little confused, but I think you probably have a decent time with it. Like again, I don't think the plot of this movie is so important or so impenetrable. The only thing that makes me a little a little wary is I have a formative experience Daniel over there as you were for all my formative experiences where we went to see more of the event to annihilation. No, well, I haven't seen Mortal Kombat one No doesn't matter neither have I ? Okay . We did go to see The Avengers with somebody who had not seen the movies that led into the Avengers. Back when there were only eight Marvels movies he had to see before the next one instead of, you know, thirty seven . And that person was like very unhappy with the movie. I would agree with like I have seen the movies and I still don't know what's going on half the time. And so like it doesn't help that the Avengers is kind of a math movie. Sorry, Avengers . Yeah, it's a vibe movie. There's not like the plot is not great, but like there's who se people, what are their powers? What is their background? Who's sleeping with whom? What's the issue? And the answer is there's like five movies before that that explained it all. Yeah, they're all Captain America movies. No, there's only one Captain America movie before that. Captain America Winter Soldier. It's not before that. Did it was not out at that time? I have no idea . Anyway , anyway, any last that we want to discuss? I don't know we might when we'll be back because that's a good question. Is this it? Are we done? Are we free? Did we finish Star Wars? , we don't we don't have to talk anymore . I guess. Tom Clancy ? Oh no, his name has been said a third time . I'm here Tom Canlcie's a complicated profession by Tom Clancy Ghost written by some other random person . Yeah, we'll be back at some point to talk about something else. We'll kick around some ideas. I don't know what it is, but you heard it here first people. We'll be back sometime. They announced that there is a release window for the Ahsoka show, which is early twenty twenty seven. I was that was the fakest silliest thing ever. We've announced a release window as if you don't have control over when your own show comes out. I feel like it means you're not done, but you know, going to be done this year. But also you're not willing to commit to anything. Yeah. I mean, but what it means is we don't know when it will be coming out windows that is technically not an announcement . Yeah . So I think that's the next thing. I mean, they so there's that there',s season two of the wall and there's Star Wars Starfighter. So next week we can go and review some Star Wars stuff, but we can review all the rides at Disneyland that are Star Wars related. Dan, how many rides are there? Two . Oh , three. I thought there were a lot more . Oh yeah, Star Tours. Yeah. Okay. Oh, who got the question right over here? That's right. I got in game. Yeah, I got it right. Just we're very clear. Okay. Yeah, there's a recording. Dan might cut it out though, so you know what Star Washington Tony? Dan might edit that out though. Yeah, it's true. You know, but I was here. I saw it. Thanks for those matters. Tony, have you even been on any of the rides? No, it's gonna be hard for you to review them. You guys can tell me about them and I'll ask questions . Okay, Star Tars makes me very nauseous. I don't write it anymore. I've written them all multiple times. Anyways , we'll figure this thing out. But thank you everybody out there for listening, especially our members the incomple. com slash members. Thank you for signing up supporting the show. We really appreciate it. If you have a topic for us to cover, feel free to write in ASPTPHENthCancomp.el com probably the best way to reach us but you can find us on social media too or in the Incompel Member Discord if you are a member. But most of all, I would like to thank my co hosts. Tony Sidalauder, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Goodbye. This one you're the angriest rode Rodean I know. I've tried to remember a single line from twelve and green men and have nothing. Can you remember a single line from the Mandalorian Grovu ? Dank for that. Baby. You were so mad about that. So mad about that the trailer said it. It's better in it's better in context. Yeah, but yes. And it's also better when Groger's not the one saying it's yes, it is. The Babof Fricks are I find them adorable. I like I like how they move. I like it's like we know they're puppets or they're janky and that's part of their charm. I like that. Very ozone they have a tiny spaceship , which is adorable. Everything about them. They can hide in a flock of spacebirds. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, it's perfect . You know, they 've got life figured out. We could all learn a lot from them . You know, I forgot to mention I did like the scene where Grobo shoots the miss iles. It did make me laugh . I don't know why. Like that was the first point in the movie that I really laughed out loud, and I thought like this funny. You lit them up with a missile. Yeah, I have a three year old. That totally makes sense. Anyway, that's our continue our time honored pastime of talking after the end of the show. You haven't closed out yet. I know. And I'm about to right now. We'll be back at some point in the future, but until then, may the Force be with you and with you . Always Do you know there's a new Jack Ryan movie out this week? I don't know . I just want to blow your rinds on that. It's on him. I knew that. Should we see it? No because, I've watched that entire series and I don't know why it's not good. Dan warned me about it. I still watched it. And yet it's not very good. Look, I'm just trying to show support for our high school classm ate John Good Yep. I mean , the original Jack Ride movies I'm talking about Orlando. Oh, there we go. Are really good. Like I'm looking forward to watching like Patriots game and the one that happens in South America, Carle in presentation. Clear and present age. You're looking forward to watching those with your child? Yes. Okay, you know that those are propaganda. Are they really? Yeah. I didn't say his name, did I by the way? No, okay. Tom Clancy, Tom Clancy. You didn't invoke the name of Tom Clancy. You said it once. Do not say it three times . Wait, propaganda for what? But what about Tom Clancy's the Mandalorian grogger? Wait no , let's go back. The propaganda. Are we know how Clancy is, I definitely know how Clancy is, but like it's Harrison Ford . Harrison Ford can be in propaganda just to be clear . They're very nice they're dead thrillers from the night. Yeah, I know which is why they're great. Yeah. I like it's like what's the one Air Force One? That's not a tough fan. Executive decision . Exactly. One of those is better than the other, I think. I agree is better. They represent a very specific worldview about American military power and operation in the world that, you know , let me maybe more in fashion now than it was true. Clear present danger turns off the Americans all the bad guys. You may you may be ahead of the curve here, Cat. So well, all right there we go for our downtime because there's no Star Wars for like a year . Should we go through all that? I would n't legitimately I would never love a kid. I try look there are movies that are part of people's growing up and they like them and I there are things I don't like about some of those movies and I keep a lot of opinions, believe it or not people as someone who has on multiple podcasts and says the stupidest things in the world, there are a level of opinions I keep to myself because I know no one wants to hear them. And but now we've started down this path and I just have to tell you Tom Clancy is poisoning your mind. Oh no, I know Tom Clancy is not I know it like I remember reading about Rainbow Six to be like, this is horrible. And also Jack Ryan should not be present the United States Have you seen his background? Actually, I would argue he's still more qualified as a fictional character than get compared, right? Actually Tony. Way down this rabbit hole. I will answer this if we can end this line of questioning because I'm going to get so much feedback. Would you rather Jack Ryan as our president or our current president? Jack Ryan every day a hard question. That is not a hard question. I am now thinking about which Jack Ryan, and this is where it gets tricky 'cause my knowledge of the different Jack Ryan. There was argument, would you rather an actor who played Jack Ryan because then the actual If you had to pick, would you rather Harrison Ford Ben Affleck or John Krasinski as president? You haven't even picked up the Jack O'Book . That's not even on the giant. Alec Baldwin. Several more yeah, Alec Baldwin. When we see Jack Ryan one of them were literally the best Jack Ryan movie . All right, I'm blow your mind. mind stand back because no one remembers this. Chris Pine Run. Yeah, he played it's not in the name. It's a very forgetable. It's a very forgetable movie. It doesn't, it doesn't feel like the it doesn't it's a generic spy ot. sp sl Iap was a jack rhino. All right. So now we got Dan excited, so he's not mad about the tangent anymore . Dan, let's further controversial things that are slightly tangentially related to Star Wars. Do you think Harrison Ford is too old to be an effect ive president? Keep in mind, you've seen Captain America. Obviously is he Red Hulk or not My decision, I have to think about it. He's a psych ist. That's okay. I would vote for him. I'm concerned again that you are the differentiation between people and the roles they play is completely breaking down in your household . Yeah . What if the guy on drinking was a red hulk he does have some anger problems . Yeah . Okay , one more , one more piece of mail . This is from Craig Craig . Oh, you know what? I take it back. That's Craig to a different body I guess. Sorry, Craig. You want us to field it anyway, we could try the question It was a Biff question. I guess we'll try to answer it. Yeah, I think we can handle it. Yeah . Yeah What is wrong with the guests? Well , come on. Come on. Yeah . Okay, ready? Yep. Honestly, I was just in it to see if we could get away with this or not. It may not make it the final cut. We'll find out find out. Craig right. Yeah, hi guys. You edit these things. Hey, Craig. Craig from Neil Before Blog and Neil before Pod here. Love the show, but I can't belie ve you talked about the season two born again finale. Didn't realize we didn't. Didn't refer and didn't refer to sorry, I love this email because it's about something that is totally unhinged. Didn't refer to Oliver's trial on Arrow, where Christopher Chance dressed as Tommy in a green arrow costume burst through a skylight and they just jump up and take the stand . Does Born again belong in the animals of lunacy trials and comic book adaptations? Keep up the good work, guys. Hope we can collaborate someday. Also back to the legal side. It is one of an it is a truly amazing scene. I had forgotten to leave right in how bananas and you should not put a skylight in a corner right over the wall s right over a window hand. I mean, we're lucky that it was someone dropping in and not someone like, you know, batmaning whatsoever. It's fundamentally a thing where a dude whose superpower is I can pretend to be anybody dresses up as a person who has been dead for several seasons dressed up as a costume vigilante that he is not . Anyway , anyway the show over? Oh yeah., wait Okay . That whole universe is over . 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