Quick Fire Round and Closing

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You came to the door dressed as a Sicilian widow. Well you had the big glasses on. You had the head scar I's like who is this? I think widows are very good fashion aesthetic. I think a lot of people have really embraced the widow fashion aesthetic and I love a veil. I love a veil. there's something about And did you know you can now pay for someone to turn up at your funeral And just stand beneath a tree in the distance and cry and look mysterious Isn't that fabulous? So the family look over and go, Who's that? Who's that you can pay? That would be amazing, wouldn't it? That's a lot of trust to put in that person though, because it's like how are you gonna to make sure they did it ' so cynical, Jinkes. Why are you so cynical? I'm a virgo. You're dead. I'm a virgo. You know if I get taken for a final ride, I'm gonna be pissed. I mean, you do identify as a witch. Do you have a holiday where there's witchy things? You you ever got a saalem I haven't yet. I mean, I've not been to Salem, Massachusetts because that's kind of what you go for. My touring work hasn't ever taken me there. But I feel like I need to make the pilgrimage there. The only thing is currently I'm trying to spend as much time away from my mother country as possible. Yes You know Hanging out in London, waiting for things to topple. We'll see. Because you know where you need to go in the UK. Y Canterbury because you know in Canterbury, there is a ducking stall where they used to put the witches on. them in the water is it will this be triggering? Will they will they Do they still administer the test it is twenty twenty. I mean, yet England can be I want to certain we don't drown with. What if I need that extra push to just ignite something in me? I've done a lot of good work fueled by vendettas. Yeah. go. But I do want to go to Salem, Massachusetts. Yeah yeah. And but I want to take it very seriously. I don't want to go and just kind of breeze through. I do want to kind of I've been to New Orleans a lot Wh also has a long history of magic Yeah. And I have a wonderful time there. And I'm from Portland, Oregon. which is When gentrification started sweeping the west coast Portland is one city that fought back with the campaign Ke Portland weird And and so I'm not saying it wasn't gentrified, but it It didn't bend over and take it from Bezos the way that Seattle did. Okay. 'cause Seattle just bent over and said, come daddy Bezos. Erect your black tower in the middle of my You're scary me k. Have you gered the Amazon headquarters? They are scary. It's called Darth Tower in Seataptle I don't know where their room is come from? Are there Bezos apologists here? I need to worry about I feel we should just replace this table with a cauldron. But you know with witches, I read a book on witches and they were saying When you think them using a broomstick to fly on is this symbol of servitude. There is a man's worst fear, isn't it? A woman finding freedom on a broomstick and flying off. and you think about how misogynistic everything that we're kind of Hot c about witches is based off of misogic. Yeah misogynistic history. Yeah. It's misogynistic misogynist Misogynistic is that misogyn fuckhead history. Yeah. No do say fuckhead. I can' say f say Knobad. Nobhead. Do you know another English one Piss flaps Have you heard piss flaps?? That's my favorite. People think the C word is my naughty word, but I love piss flaps. Well, like the pointed hats, right That was just what female brewers ale brewers wore in the marketplace so you could find them So they get labeled as a witch take out the brewing competition U Midwives Were competition for male doctors So they took out the midwives by saying, They're witches who will eat your babies. It was all taking out the competition. Medicinal healers se you know,el relabeling all of these women who were just doing the same things that men were doing in the kind of like ancestral way they were taught. Yeah. It all got rebranded. So which is something that got put on these women? think modern witches claim the title witch. It's in honor of all of the women who were persecuted for just having a talent that threatened men. Yeah. And we were told to be scared of the witches, but not the men who burned them That's true, it? I'm date. I can go deep as well. That was date. was was some date shape. And I don't just say piss flaps. You don't get you don't get that from men that often. No 'cause gay men are still men, you know. Oh I know. Sorry to presume Wh I present as a gay, man? because my wife upstairs would say Yeah, where's the mother to this dog? So Listen, tell us, what do you think this is a travel podcast. You're over here in End of the rainbow. You are getting rave reviews, standing ovations, everyveryone loves you You are a Broadway sensation Well, I really like my work You know, do you like your work, right? I love my work. I can't believe I get paid to do it. Exactly. I'm getting paid for this, aren't they? No, I really, really love my work and I u It's all I' ever wanted to do. Like I knew exactly who I was. as a kid, I had Friends from my high school years Years, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, I don't know primary secondary I don't know, whatever, Cllege, whatever. Like people have known me since way back when and I was joking like they knew me when I was playing boy roles But they knew the roules A wanted to play and The fact that I get to play them these days, like I'm playing Judy Garland in a show about Judy Garland. You know, that's not something I firstoresaw for myself, but I always thought it was possible. The world convinced me it wouldn't be possible. and then I had to reconvince myself that it absolutely is Yeah. What emotionally is it like on stage becausecause you're singing the songs It's campay, obviously, but you've still got that dark side of addiction and I did a bit of a deep dive in D Gan and I didn't realize that she died in London, didn't she in Belgray, Caddigan Lane, which is just I just assume she died in LA Yeah, I know. Did you have a pilgrimage to where she died? No. I have been considering Um, Judy and I walking kind of hand in hand right now. like, u I've just welcomed her into my life The Problem is I don't have a lot of time to travel if it's not for work. Like six days out of the week is planned by my team these days.. I get my one day to have dinner with accomplices but I'm teasing. Again, I love my work. No, I have done.ill I distract your team and then you run out the back door and get on your broomstick? You know No, I did some rituals welcoming Judy into my life because my own research with Judy made me realize we just have a lot in common, completely different people. And yet our lives parallel each other in a lot of ways And I have these moments on stage that feel like Absolute synchronicity where Jinx the actress is singing the song hoping that she's telling the story hoping that it sounds good hoping that the audience will overlook any like voice cracks if it's like one of those days And those moments where I'm just like I know that I am just ringing out what I have for my audience because I think they deseserve it where I'm like, yeep, this is I'm just in sync with where Judy would have been in this moment, you know? And so it kind of feels very cosmic and then it feels Really? I feel like she's there. Do you feel like she's there?. I have a hard time seeing ghosts I believe in them fully, but I haven't ever seen them myself. And that's never been my talent. But basically I welcome her every night. I figure she has better things to do. But I do welcome her every night along with my. I' never seen a ghost Apparently I used to see him as a kid and I wouldn't shut up about the ghosts in our house. And then for a long time just haven't had any experiences like that. And I think U I think someone from the other side's protecting me from something or other. That's what my terrot reader terot reado Terot reado My terot reader my terrot reader My Tara Reed Yeah. That's what she said. Anyway, No, I invite Judy and there are times where I can't say that I've felt Judy, but I felt she felt between, you know, my audiences have been fabulous in their own right and Again, there's the synchronicity of like, I'm on stage. singing for everyone, but we know who I'm singing to. And that feels like another moment of synchronicity. And I grew up with all of my queer icons being women I related to and now I'm queer icon, a woman that young people like me relate to. So it's like we're at this point now where queer icons are the queer icons and that's very special and it doesn't mean that we can't still love our divas and our patron saints, you know. But it's special that we get to step into the spotlight now in a way that wasasn't really allowed when Judy was around And you sort of get calledld it after their after they died. so they didn't really get to enjoy it or feel that energy or plug into that kind of energy because they were gone too soon. Yeah. and it's like nowadays Women can be very self aware of that. And men, I don't know why I'm qualifying it. It's not like men aren't having a good time with their day fan base these days I saavved by the dog knocking over something This is a travel podcast I I'm fascinated by you. fascin by. Because then after this finishes on june twenty first at Soah Wolfenstone. Then you have like a couple of weeks off and then you're doing speaking of whichitch. you're actually going on tour again and it's Witcher R and drag, isn't it? that what you say Drag witchery, music, stand up comedy. my stand up shows are like stand upp shows hybrid with a cabaret con. So I tell a lot of story through song. So it's kind of like my stand upp shows are you get a story You get some jokes, some snappy one liners, some burns, some zings. And then we sing a song that encapsulates the moment and we turn the page and here's the next story and I like it because I mean, it's kind of what I've always done, I just, you know, lean into The way I do it. I went and saw your friend at Drewy Line, Meghan Hiltty She is very special because we both started our theater careers in Seattle. Oh really. Every time she sees me, she goes, My Seattle sister. She was so and she sang that song from Waitress. was it N what I asked for Oh my God, I was ugly crying. She can do anything. She was doing Marilyine Monroe She was doing obviously wicked. She was ed. Did you get to see Death becomes her own pro? No, no was so good her and Jen Sard The three of us were the most successful drag queens on Broadway that season. Because And I told this to Mean enngine that like is coming to the UK Death becomes. I want to imagine so. I have to imagine you all would love. Wouldn't it be great if you were doing O Mary in London? Wouldn't that be amazing? Well, you know Don't try and ruin my chances. be amazing. We'll see. know it's a good ask. I guess we'll just have An posible. Any possible. No Yeah. But No, I'm really I'm loving being back in the UK because I've come here With the Soho Theater, I actually celebrated my ten year anniversary of doing shows with them. and I've been bringing cabaret shows for years. and now I'm doing this play with this wonderful director and crew and team and co stars. I felt like we all took this step forward together because it's like we all kind of like went, we're going to be a little more ' I used to perform in their basement, you see. And now I've done warm up in there for my in that basement. Oh my God. Yeah and you are in this amazing there in Wolamstow It's gorgeous The play is beautiful. The play is very beautiful and feels very special and significant. And then right afterwards, I get to do something completely different, which is just, you know get up and be a cunt on stage.. travel You do it so well. traraveling your beautiful with I do give good. And I do love your country a lot in spite of its terrible lighting and bad Wiifi What t is with Americans, you come over here and you think English people are just fat with bad teeth No, I I got to say, I love the green initiatives there's got to be a better lighting option that's still green and not Hospital lighting. You don't like strip lighting I take that as a I would prefer we go back to candles and sconces. Yeah. I have to travel with my own lighting. Oh my God, you're we have like Mariah Carey. No it's not It's like I travel with gels to cover up the fluorescence. I travel with or. You have lovely skin. comeome off it. Be I you're making out your like a bowl bag or something. You got lovely skin I like to be Gowing No, but you are glowing. It's not You think this is likeing present myself better. It's because the lighting makes me depressed. The lighting here makes me depressed. It's like you're so used to' overpass. telling me. Your lighting is lovely because you're Again, I'm presuming but gay. it's like in your genetics that have have on you really are a witch. But look, this is lovely lighting. I don't know why you're getting so defensive. It's like you don't have fluorescence up. No. Are you defending ' to Motherland ' you love her so much Oh my go. Anyway, you can get county ants like this And my speaking of witch tour pace of shit For those listening, that's not jinx, that's my lighting that keeps I haven't suddenly called my guests a piece of shit So Listena, we must talk about travel. What's your first holiday memory? Oh Oh, I'm sorry, that scared the dog. My family The dog's looking at you like Dogs have a hard time with me. Cats love me. Dogs have a hard time knowing what to do Um, when I was a very little kid We went to Reno, Nevada for a wedding as a family. and then Basically every holiday trip after that I realized was just to a place with casinos And so we would take family holiday trips to the beach Which was code language for We're gonna go to the beach for a couple hours and then we're gonna stick you in the playpan and be at the casino for a solid weekend. Oh no.. Until you Well, I was always excited because eventually one day I'd be old enough to go to the casino, but we were bankrupt by then So the casino trip anyway. My first like holiday I gave myself. Yeah was to Amsterdam and that's when I got hit by a car. So I have a weird relationship to holidays. I prefer someone else to plan it. Yeah ye. then and then I just go for the go for the ride Mexico City, That's my favorite holiday I've ever taken ten. Why? Wh The men in South America We get along. to Rio' been to Rio. I've been to Rio, my tongue. And Rio's been to me. I've been to Rio, but I've never been to me. thing about Amsterdam It's such a fucking dangerous place. There's people on bikes, there's trams, there's canals everywhere and you can get fucking stoned have a hashcake. I mean, there's so many ways to die. what's the best part is that I was Crossing the street, I was quite stoned and I still drank and I than God's I still drink because I was crossing the street and U someomeone goes Jinkx, Jinx and so attention whore that I am, I turn around and give it glamorous Hello. A car came around the corner driving backwards very fast. reversed over you. Yeah, like hit me. I flopped over the car like a ragdoll becausecause I didn't see it coming and I was so drunk Like my body just ragdlled, right And then the car drove off. It was a hit and run, and then I got up And I kind and I was kind of resentful towards the people who like said my name. but I'm the one who decided to stop in the middle of the road rather than stepping the five extra steps it would have taken to get me out of harm's way. So I was a little mixed up emotionally But I But I was fine At least you can laugh about being run over. Not many people can laugh is it? It could ruin their lives, but you're like But the night I quitight How did it didid you hurt? did you? No, I was fine, except seven years later, my chiropractor said something's going on. Oh my God. And so that began a new journey of healing. The night that I chose to quit drinking I had Tied one on with some fans After a show, tied one on. Oh sorry, I had got munted. I no wait, that's fucked. fucked up. I got right pissed. Pper pissed. Pper pissed. Proper Mangled. That's another one. I would mangled. And sheets to the wind there used to be a news reader called Jan Leming. you go, oh my Godd, I'm steaming Jan Leming. That was another one if you I was really go. I we out with a group of fans and we had a really good time went on After the last performance of a run of a show with my drag mother Peaches Christ and my drag sister Bendela Crham, with the Soho theater.. And I went out this night and I almost got hit by a car again. And I said, Babe, you got lucky once. You got lucky twice Yeah You're not gonna keep getting hit by cars and live to tell about it. You're got to make a change, baby. Why do you get pissed and go in the road though? Why don't Why don't you stick to the path? Because I'm a free spirit, Alen. I don't get drunk to make good decisions. I love that Me if you've saying that namee M on the way home after making a night of bad decisions. it's that sow puppet on a tricycle and then all these joggers looking really healthy and like Hello Douas my old friend. Oh God, I've been there. I've been there. Yeah, I've had some of my best hangovers in London. Yeah. Oh that's good. but you all know how to See, this is part of why I didn't know I was an alcoholic for so long as I was spending too much time here. I know I know. ' I read that interview with Claire Danne. she says, Oh my God, so you come and then you do a pub you get in a pub at twelve and then you just sit there till eleven PM Yeah Jing that's what you do on your day off. Well yeah I felt really at home here. I still do But I We'll tell you the differenceces in America, which is by no means better when I would say, I've been alcohol free for six years because I smoke enough weed to make up for it. Let's be clear. But I've been alcohol free for six years. They cheer, they're very excited for me. When I said that in London boo they booed. I have never felt like I have never felt an audience turn on me so. Yeah. I know. isn't Yeah. you say, Oh, I'm sober and then they sort just lower their head in shame. you let. or someone goes, Oh, go on, you can have one. That's what they say In England I've been sober for ten years. My mum would say on treat yourself. Treat yourself. You know what you're going to do to me. I know. But I love it actually. I really enjoy. My dragmother Peaches Christ said one of the things that kept her sober from alcohol All these years, she's got many more years on me was the sense of superiority. And as a Virgo I can vibe with them. And the very rare times that I am sober and you are surrounded by drunk people, they think they're so fucking witty, don't they? Ifave you've ever been to a party and everyone's drunk and you're sober and you're like, Fuck me, you are the most boringest people And they think they're hysterical. Mine. I' like it's like that fucking scene from Friller. And my favorite thing is going to a party where everyone gets wasted but you and You have perfect memories of the evening and then the next day people start telling their idea of what happened. you're like, Oh no. Sorry. I remember Hey Oh my God That was a lot of phlem. I'm sorry. That was phleming. I'm gonna have to disinfect. It's still early in the day. What time are we presenting that this is I'm glad you got that up. But I love Amsteram. You got a furball. I love Amsterdam. I love Mexico City. Yeah. You love the men in Mexico City. Well, I no, I love the city itself. I love the culture there. Weed is legal on one. City blocks So everyone goes to the city block, everyveryone who likes weed goes to the city block. you're allowed to buy it You're allowed to smoke it And you're supposed to leave it there It is just this triangular city block Wh Wh everyone congregates to smoke weed. Which country is the best weed though, to you? Which country is the best weed? Is it Holland? Well, I so good, I got run over No, it is very good. It is very good. But I got to say the Pacific Northwest in America now because We went in hard. We made it our thing. You could it's like it's like Willy Won's chocolate factory there. It's like you go into a weed shop and they're like, whichich way would you like a we part Jigs? I've been very do a weed shop. like we do a big shop. you know, in England, we say I'm doing a big shop. No that's when you go to the Tesco Era. No it's a shop full of weed products. Okay. And yes, I do a big shop there. Good for you. I just diverted all my addiction attention. Okay, that's good. It works for me. Yeah. Hey And it's don't I don't need to justify my You do not to me, don't you dare. But I will say my Aunt, I like telling this story. My aunt has had a brain tumor that they found when she was thirteen years old Um Her whole life, she had chemo. They kept telling her. they didn't know how much longer they were going to be able to help her survive. so many surgeries, so much chemo, all of this stuff, all they could ever do was get it to stop growing and stunt the growth. They could never get it to shrink. She's now been on cannabis treatments, like Medicinal marijuana spepecially made for what she is dealing with The tumor has shrank so much that they can't call it a tomor anymore. They call it the shadow tumor. Oh wow. She's in the best health she's ever been And she's compleomtely off of opioids. and she went from taking like a fistful of pills a day to taking two pills a day to manage her many medical issues And now she's like living a very So it's like, I know that it can be used recreationally Yeah. I like to say this when people get all like you think I'm judging? No, I don't. I don't. I'm ped. I'm utilizing this platform. I'm saying this because the Uber driver smelted on me the other night and he was like weeds such a terrible smell. And I was like I wake up such a terrible smell. Oh my, the great He was the great ppon. driver. No, Okaykay, so but when people get I just like to say, well, you know It's thousands of years of Aoriginal culture. Oh versus your opinion, ye. For you, you tell 'em I love. So you haven't asked a single question. I know I knowed. We could do raapid fire now. I'll stop being delightful. Oh, no, no, you carry on being delightful. I wouldn't want it any other way Do you complain inks when you're on traveling. What gets you go you like I was going to say do you like a smokey room, but you love a room that stinks a weed I'm home. I will complain about the accommodations typically. I will find something that's like because I'm such creature of habit and my creature comforts are what keep me Nice And lovely So you will kick off if the room you know that's kindy. What I don't like is when something has been presented one way and then you get there and you're like, that was a farce. you know. But the photos don't match the room. Yeah or they do and you realize they took it from a very specific corner of the room H you you ever been to Paris and they put the fucking AI Eiffel Tower out the window and you look and go, Where's the Eiffel Tower? It's not even here But I try not to complain. I take so few holidays because I love working. no, you're a worker You're a worker holly can And I am a worker another place that gets my addiction energy. but my I always go on holiday with friends and because I want it to be a good holiday for them and usually it's people I work with or work adjacent to. I want to tone down my most obnoxious qualities because they have to deal with it as part of their work. So I want them to have a vacation from me as well. Oh. Like Sky went on a solo vacation, my friendistant, but we also went on aal was it Palm Springs? Yeah, Palm Springs a vacation just to lay around for a week, you know. So I try my best. I I belieelve in the power of resetting. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever been on holiday and seen a famous person? C we've had all kinds of a very good comedian, Michael McIntyre said he was in holiday in Pulia and Madonna came in riding a horse We've had Diana Ross, haven't we? We've had Leonardo Caprio Pussy Possse on an easy jet flight. Who's the most famous person you've seen on holiday I've never seen someone on holiday, but I have seen so many famous people just mooving around. What' just say Yes. Who's the most? Okay, wait, waitit. This is one that really broke my mind We were both traveling at the same time and I don't know if I've ever even told her a story from this perspective. There was a woman in first class on an airplane once trying really hard to get my attention and I was probably hung over. I was probably and I was just kind of like Okay, you can't pretend you can't see her, You can't pretend you can't see her. Just look over and waave It's Marcia Gayhard And I was like. And and this is I like this story because I get retribution in it. But one time I was visiting friends in LA and this is before I was working there a lot. I was literally just there for a visit We're in a Mexican restaurant A woman walks in and I go, o my God, that's Wanda Sykes If she walks past and everyone just sees the back of her head and starts calling me a racist And they're like, you can't just say that about Anybody you've seen And then she comes back. And we all look And it's fucking Wanda Pykes. Yeah And I look around you're not racist. Hack you. Yeah. I can recognize goddamn Wanda Pykes. Yeah. Tust me. Good for you. good for you E Right, now we've got time for quick fire round. We're just about to land, okay? You ready? Have you enjoyed your flight so far? I love it. We haven't even mentioned travel, but who gives a shit What I'm terrible at these. I just talk too much. What are we supposed to say about travel?? No, okay, this is a fast okay, this is quick fire, okay. You can't get a flight for only fifty p. You ever seing that h? What's thats fuck fuck, fucky fuck. you say tellell me you don't sing this as Judy Garland You imagine some of the lesser known songs you can get Oh fifty fifty B. Okay. Beat your pole . Adrenaline junkie or adrenaline slunky? Adrenaline slunky. Alcar or Alcar Traz. Would you rather go on holiday with me or go to prison I with you Thanks Babe. Thanks Babe. Jesus Christ, who answers prison? You'd be surprised. mile high or I'm too shy. A you remember the mile? Oh, mile high. I would love to finally join. I've been I've been trying to make it clear. I'm good to go. Well listen, now that' this, come on. My dreams come true And then last but not least, tip 'em or fuck 'em Oh, I'm an overtipper. Oh thats I believe it comes back to me in karmic ways. And also, I mean, I live my dream job And I have to you know I have to pay it forward. Yeah. That's how I feel about it. Yeah truly. Great. That's love. Thank you so much. J if you'd like to collect your emotional baggage from the carousel, thank you for flying Alen. Thank you. I have people for that, Darling. I don't do. You're so relatable We hope you enjoyed your flight. Don't forget to like and subscribe Don't ever forget. Lve Sabby