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Now get eighty dollars off your first month with promo code space eighty when you go to talk space. com Match with a licensed therapist today at talkspace. com Save eighty dollars with code space eighty at Tarkspace. com This is the Alien UFO podcast episode two hundred and thirty six and I'm your host Simon B au . My book titled Aspects of Alien Abduction has been published and you can get it on paperback, audiobook or Kendall on Amazon. I have a new website it is Simonbaum dot com and you can go there for my books, my podcasts and past life progression . This week I'm talking to James Kelly about his book Awakened by the Stars You have been chosen James has had encounters with various extraterrestrial beings throughout his life , including terrifying abductions by the Grays. Hi, James, thanks for coming back to the podcast. Thank you for having me on Simon. I love to be on your podcast. We're going to talk about your book. It's called Awakened by the Stars You Have Be Chosen , a third installment in the Lone Believer Memoirs . So how is the third book different to the first two? The third book is basically how I've ended up where I am right now . And so if you the first book was just more of, you know, my abductions, what went on . The second book it was how I dealt with it as a child and as an adult and the third book was how I 've come to terms with who I am and how I've come out on the other end to help other people . And so everything has kind of come full circle in these three books . I really wanted to make it into one book, but the publishers were like, No, I'm not printing a thousand page books. So we kind of had to break it up into them . But out of all the three books, it seems to be like The Waken by the Stars is the most popular one. So for the listeners who haven't heard you before , could you just tell us how this all started for you? What was the first exper ience? The first experience, if I back up just a while, which talks about in my third book, is I started getting feelings . I would lay out into the grass like normal kids do, or I'd be playing in the grass, you know, with your toys and stuff, and I'd always get what I call whispers , little feelings of warmth and something felt like it was talking to me and comforting me all the time, almost like I had a silent friend with me. You know, when as a little kid, I didn't think a whole lot about it. I would just say I'm here and I could feel the feeling again . And once I got older to , you know, going out from four up to five to six , I started having different dreams where I would actually have dreams about the Octurian 's visiting me as a child . It was very peaceful and loving and I developed a little bit of a relationship as a child , but then the nightmare started and the grays would start invisiting, you know, invading my dreams with violent dreams of a little boy being torre open and blood everywhere and laying on a table, screaming for their mother . And so really when I was six years old , that's when came to a head where I was taken by an Octorian lady who her name is Lorium and she's actually my star seed mother . And from that time they laid everything out and said, Hey, this is who you are, James. Your name is Milio. You're my son . And this is where you belong. And they started teaching me from the age of six and that's snowballed to where we are right now where I'll be sixty on the twentieth and it's been kind of a long path , but that's where everything has kind of moved forward through from the Age six to like right now . So you were encountering the Archurians and the Greys , but never at the same time. No, it was always one or the other. And so the Arcturans were like they were good to be with, but the Graves was, was it just negative all the time? It was. I never had a good experience with the Grays at all. It was always experimental or they were putting really dark dreams in my head and there was nothing ever positive about it. Just very evil, dark feelings that I'd always get from them. Even when I wasn't on the ship with them, they would invade my mind with dreams or I'd get images of them hurting me , you know, things like that. So I was never away from them . But when I was with the Opturians, everything was so peaceful and calm. The only way I could describe it now is like going into heaven , how everything is supposed to be calm and peaceful and you know there',s no death, there's no evil, there's no pain . And I do miss that. They are They're wonderful people . Are you able to sense or were you able to sense when something was going to happen , was there some kind of intuition or some kind of feeling in the body and you think oh , they're coming tonight . The grays ? Yes, I would get I would get an uneasy feeling. I remember as a child sitting on the edge of my bed they started labeling with having anxiety, I could feel something like that happening. And I remember as a child just sitting clenching my fists and rocking. I mean, I would grip my hands. I remember my nails actually leaving crescent circles on my palms because I was that scared . And finally, you know, I'd get into bed and pull the covers over your head with a little air hole , thinking, you know, when I was little , if they couldn't see me, they couldn't take me, but that wasn't at all what happened . Yeah, so I could feel them. And then with the Octurians, I'd feel completely the opposite. I would feel peace and love like a warm blanket would be around me. It was just a completely different thing and then I could hear speaking to me or I'd feel something deep inside of me. So it was two different , definitely different races that we're dealing with daily with . And I suppose being a small child and the age that you are now, that means it was the early nineteen seventies when this was happening first of all. Yeah, it was the early nineteen seventies and I gave a lecture two nights ago about abduction and I was telling them when I was a child I really couldn't wrap my head around any of this because I was given love and support from one being and fear and destruction from another being . And so as a child I really couldn't figure it out. So all I knew was mostly fear , but now as an adult I really understand what was going on and the grays are afraid of me now, so we don't they don't come for me anymore. So they've kind of disappeared and I have more direction with the Octurians now. And back then, this whole thing of alien abduction wasn't known, was it? There were no books on it. Nobody was talking about this stuff ? No, it wasn't. And my mom was a psychologist and she was doing the best she could. I mean, she has a child coming to her saying, Mom, these furnace people or these beings were coming to get me and they take me to the ship and they're doing all these experiments with me and I tried to explain it. And I think in her mind , she really, really wanted to believe me . But if she would have said something to other people or stuff, you know, back then they would have just committed me thinking I was crazy . So by my mom not talking about it with others or saying she'd always say, Oh, James, honey , you're just dreaming. It's just a bad dream . And I think that's how she dealt with it because she didn't know how to deal with it, and she didn't want to think I was crazy or anything. But back in the seventies , yeah, I definitely would have been committed because there was no groups. We didn't know what we know today . It was just like, oh, you're a little child, you're crazy. Let's put you in an institution . And I think that's one thing she didn't want to happen . So in the early years , how often would you encounter the Greys or the Archdurians? Was it once a week or once a month ? In my mind, I would they would put visions in my mind, just dreadful visions , sometimes every night , but at least two or three times a week of these visions and I would be taken by them at least twice, sometimes three times a week. I mean a month . And you know I didn't know what to do except for just cry . I was so scared I didn't know what to do . I wish I would have had unlimited access to write my book and they get a three thousand page book because there's so much stuff Simon that I've left out as a child , things that I really wanted to put in the book, but I couldn't . And so it's yeah it happened quite frequently . And with these dreadful visions , did you ever work out what was the point of that? Why would they be doing that? They were when I when I started getting older, I talked to the Auctorians. I said, Why are why is this happening? What do they want? And they're trying to figure out my brain and how it works. And so they would put these visions and see the res ponses that I would do or have . And that's why they kept coming into my mind because when you dream, your body still reacts to, you know, to energy , just being scared to being excited, you know, your body reacts to that. You know, your serotonin level s were raised and lower . And I think really that's what they were looking for and that's what the confirmation of the Oct orians were saying. They were looking for my mind. They were trying to understand what my brain was doing in those dreams. I see. It did like just experimentation to them . Yeah, yeah, basically it's like I was a pavlo dog to them . They would put something in my brain and see how I reacted to it . How much did you see of the Arcturans before or while grays were visiting here I had my one visit first of all when I was six years old. They showed me kind of what was going on , where my home was , and who I was. But then I really didn't have any contact with them and then I started having more contact when I started being seven, eight years old, mostly eight years old is when I really started having physical contact with the Grays . So until I got much older , I really didn't have a lot of contact with the Octorians except for telepathy , they would send me feelings, I would have dreams, contacts, that type of thing. But the grays pretty much ruled what was going on. And in your book, you say there was a point where the grays were in your room and one of them said The Arcturian child this is the one we're looking for . How did you feel about that? I was scared. You just mentioned that and I just had the vision of exactly what you're talking about because they as a child , they knew exactly who I was . They knew who I was . And first, you know, think about as a little tiny kid , you're who we're looking for, how nightmarish and scared would you be as a child to be able to know that ? And oh man it just, yeah , ooh, hearts beaten just thinking about it again . With the grays, was there a kind of progression in what happened when you were what happened when you were eight was different to what happened when you were eleven or eighteen or was it pretty much the same thing ? The experimental processes that they did started getting more Well, they started experimenting more . Instead of looking for something or probing me for something , now they when I got older, now they started cutting me open and looking for things , they started putting stuff inside my body , liquids that, you know, change how I thought and how my body worked. They would I remember them when I was about eleven, they would hook up a machine to me and I could see all of my nerves and I could see my organs like they were glowing . And so the older I got, the more experimentation they got. To at one point, they were experimenting with me so much that I almost died. If it wasn't for the Pelidians and the Opturans coming in getting me , I wouldn't be here right now. I was to that point. Before I switched to Wealthfront, my APY was probably zero point one. Like it was a joke. I was literally getting pennies. Once I switched switching with a Wealth Front Cash account earn up to four point two percent APY on your cash. The high APY with Wealthfront was a clear winner. There are no petty fees. Every month there's this much that I'm getting an interest and I didn't have to do anything. My money is working hard on its own and I can trust Walthfront is taking care of me. Earn more on your un invested cash with a wealthfront cash account. 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That's what I was told because my DNA is not a normal DNA . It has parts of the Octurion and parts of me into it . So I am half human and half Octurian, and they want the Octurian part because the grays can no longer breed, they can no longer procreate because they have pretty much spent I guess what their procreation abilities can be. So they in order to carry on, they needed fresh DNA . And I was told that a lot of the humans now, their DNA can't be used as corrupted . So they're looking for what's called a star children who are half human and half other life and they're using that pure DNA to create other life . And so yeah, they're very aware of our DNA, they're very aware of how our bodies work . They use that DNA to create new beings. And yeah, they're just awful people . So just an aside , when you were with them, was there a smell ? Not really. I could smell what was going on in the ship , like the smell of the ship . I could smell of different things that they would do like the chemicals or the different wraps, things that the energy that they would use. I could smell that, but the beings themselves really didn't have a smell that I remember . I know that I can't remember the name of the gentleman I have to apologize, but he had a sighting where the grays smelled like ammonia and he actually touched them . And two days later he died of a bacterial infections . So yeah, the grays that I have experienced, they didn't have a smell at all . So in the book you say the first time you saw the Arcturians, you didn't feel surprised and you felt home. So was it a feeling of , oh, I know these people. I've known them for years or something like that . Yeah, it's just like if you've been out and you're like, a minute, have we met before ? And you just get this this feeling of familiar ity with somebody that you don't even know . And that's how I felt. And I think it was they were preparing me from when I was very little with these whispers, these feelings . This is who we are. And then, you know, when I was younger , I used to lay in bed and have a blue shimmer above my bed, and I could see, you know, the different worlds there , or I could hear them talking with me . When I was younger, I think I was around four years old , I awoke to Loren standing by my bed. At that time I didn't know who she was , but I remember her touching my head and just saying , We will meet again . And I never saw her again until I was six years old . And did she say she was your mother or something ? She didn't say that at first , not until I was on the ship when I was six years old . I was asking a lot of questions and then she came out and said that she was my star mother. I guess confusing. So I suppose they took some of her DNA and mixed it with some human DNA . Yes, because I'm actually this will kind of bring everything into perspective because I'm adopted. The parents that I have now that raised me were not my biological parents. I was born to a young lady that was fifteen years old who consented to the Oct urians to have this where they took the egg, they implanted the DNA, they put it back into her, they explained everything about it and who I was going to be, and she agreed to do this . So it was different. And I didn't know about any of this until I was in my fifties . And I started I kept asking them, No, why is this happening? Well, who am I? What's this relationship ? And finally , Loren finally came out and said, Okay , this is what it is. And she explained it all to me . But she never would talk about it. I've asked several times about it , you know, who am I? Why am I here? Why am I different? You say I'm a starseed. You say I'm Octurian. Why am I this ? And she wouldn't avoid the subject, but she would definitely change the subject . And until later, like I said, later in my fifties, then she finally told me who I really was. So you say in the book you were on Arcturia for three days . So first of all, I want to ask is how did you get there? They usually come in portals . It starts off if you're older like me, you remember TVs that you'd turn on, you see this little pinprick of light on your screen and that would slowly get larger as the tube got warmed up. And that's kind of what happened is I'd be laying in bed or sitting on the couch or even outside and I'd see this little tiny pimp prick of light and it would grow into like this eight foot blue portal . And they would just step out and say, Hey Jay, it's time to come. We're Milo, it's time to come. And they would just take my hand or we'd just walk through together and then I would be on Octoria or I'd be on a different world . And that's how we would be transported back and forth . Were you missed while you were there for three days ? No, and I asked about that because if you think about it and it still kind of makes my head hurt to think about it, I don't know why they do something to the time that surrounds. So even though I'm on Octuria for three days , here I come back to the same exact time as when I left And I really don't know how any of that works. I've tried to understand it and I still can't understand it . But they know what's going on and they understand it because when I'm taken, when I go with them and I'm on Octoria and I come back , my wife is still lying in the same position as when I left or the TV's still on in the same channel as when I left . It's yeah, it's different. I'm not quite sure how all that time contin uum thing works, but it somehow they control it . So what was the luxury alike? Did you find the gravity was not too light or not too heavy, was the air pressure already? It was different. I could tell that I was somewhere else . The air was so different. It was like breathing in . It was just pure . The planet's gravity was just a little bit different, but it wasn't like majorly different . If I was telling Hawley, my wife the other day, I'm like, if I could go right now, I would go and not come back. I would stay there . But the flip side is the police would come and want to know where I was, and then the police would think that she murdered me and dug me in the backyard somewhere and it'd be kind of a bad thing . But the planet itself is so beautiful . Everything you touch is life . You touch a flower, it reacts to you touch water, you can feel the life in the water, the trees, the air, everything has life to it . And you can touch like a flower and you can telepathically telepathically tell it something and it reacts to you . And it's just an amazing world . Everybody is so calming and peaceful and loving and it's like it's like being in heaven. If I could describe heaven it would be octorious . And I talk to my kids. I'm like, 'cause I don't hide anything from my children. They know what's going . And I'm like, What do you guys want to go? But let's just all go right now. I can have us go right now . And they're like, No dad, that's your world. We want to stay here. And I'm like, okay, I understand that. But I think if they had a few minutes just to be there, I think they would actually change their mind. But they have that choice. They have their free agency to make that decision so why were you there for three days? What do they want you there for? Every time I was there it was for training They want they want me to train, to learn how to deal with my telepathy, how to use my telepathy better, how to be more loving, more kind . So each time I was there, the older I got, the training changed . So when I was younger, it was like, okay, let's teach you how to use telepathy . And let's teach you how to talk to plants. Let's teach you how to ask for things . And that part of it was so simple, but then the older I got, it's like, okay, now we want you to be able to put your hand against a tree or whatever and talk to it and have it react to you. And you need to talk and sit and make things move or they'd have things move along the table I'd use my mind to move things along the table and lift things up with the table. And then the older I got I started getting into not combat but learning how to use what I have learned in a different way , combining peace and, you know, I wouldn't say , you know, martial arts or something but it was both of them together that I could learn how to deal with the grays . So when they came for me , the person that was trained in me her name was Ola , Ola , and she taught me how to use my telepathy to block the gray's neural blocks because when the grays come and get you, they put in a neural block which allows you to mentally stay awake, but your body doesn't move . And so they can take you without any problems . But when she when Orla taught me how to do that and the grays came after me, I used it against them and they couldn't they couldn't take me . And so that started a progression. And then now when I'm even older now , I was actually taken to Octoria and they gave me a student . And that was hard for me because I saw a little six year old boy there and immediately all the pain and suffering came right back and I felt so horrible that he had to go through this . But on the good side , I'm here . I have experiences here so I can help him better . Where I was being learned taught from Octurians where I'm half human, half Octurian. I can understand him better and train him a little bit better . And that's where I am right now is I've come full circle once I was the student and now I've been taught over the years going back and back to Oper , now can teach others on how to do things . Like my son, Joseph, he says, Dad, is it crazy that I talk to plants I'm like, no , it's not crazy that you talk to plants. Why don't you talk to them? Harrow, let me teach you how to do that. And I teach him how to meditate and put his hand on the plant and you could feel the energy of the plant . And so I'm in I've graduated . Now I'm the college professor and being able to share all these things with other people now. Did you have downtime on there? Like you'd stop for lunch and then in the even ings you'd have food and a room to sleep . Oh yeah, I had my own house which they gave me . They said this is yours and it was a very modest dwelling. It just had a living room, a kitchen , and it had a seating area where you could like sit and meditate in a bedroom and a bath. They didn't call it a bath, but yeah, so I would do that. And on my downtime, I would go there and sit and think about things and eat . And just like a normal person does here on Earth , I would have my friends , I'd talk to my friends that I basically grew up there as a child with and we would talk. We'd go sit on the seashore. We would talk about our old being a child, having fun as a child. Do you remember this? Do you remember that? Oh, you were so crazy you didn',t under stand simple things and they'd kind of jest me and tease me a little bit. But yeah , we did have downtime. I wasn't on Octoria all the time , that it was all learning, all learning . It was sometimes really great and to be with my friends and sometimes I would just sit and talk with my mom and she would explain things to me . So yeah, it was just like here . And throughout your life, has your ever seen something like just lights through the window or something in the room ? Yes , my wife and I , we have a fairly large yard and we have a fire pit. We like to do fire pits at night. Roast marshmallows have fun with the kids . And one night we were just outside and I said, Do you see that? She goes, yeah . And it streaked across the sky and stopped . And then it went straight up , went down on a forty five degree angle , went across to the left on a forty five degree angle and then judged across the sky . And this was something that was witnessed. I recorded this on my phone and my wife witnessed this too, and she looked at me and like , welcome to my world, honey . She goes, Oh , and she goes, No, I understand. And then we played that video for our friends. They're like, Oh, this is so cool. This is so cool . And then one day my phone started glitching, it was going in and out of screen, stuff was being erased . And that video and a lot of the pictures that I've taken of, you know, different events were gone . So yeah , but Holly has witnessed things on her own . She's actually witnessed lights like why, do you have the light on? She'll wake up Why do you have the light on in the room ? 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Yeah, she told me I was delusional and schizophrenic And it was very hard on our marriage at that time because she was trying to process all of this stuff and she couldn't. I mean, how can you if you look at a normal person outside of this, it's like, oh , but the more experience I started happening . And her throughout our marriage, she starts going back and saying, Oh, I remember this. Oh, yes, I remember this. And she started piecing all the pu ofzz le together . And then she's like, oh yeah, I'm sorry I didn't see this before. I'm like, It's okay . I mean, would I be any different if she was going through it and I was on in her place So can I ask you about the Shikara Grays and how they different to other grays ? The Shakara grays, well , they're not the little grays are just drones, but the grays that control the little drones are thin and tall, maybe six feet. I have never seen them more than six feet and they're that's just they're thin, spindly. Where the Sakara grays can be seven, eight feet tall. They're very muscular . They still have the omid eyes, the black eyes, their heads are , you know, in the same proportions as a gray , but their skin is different. It's more elephant skin . It's all cracked in things and it's like blacks and purples and different sort of colors on to that . And they are not nice people . The only thing they want from you is to treat you like a lab rat. And if you die during the procedure, they just stump you . They're very vicious people and right now they have a base on the dark side of the moon and that's where they are . And they've been there the whole time . Do you think they' genreet ically engineered to be that way? It sounds almost like a hybrid with reptilians . Yeah, when I was talking last time I was on Octorian and I was talking with Orla, I said, you know, where these grays come from because they were saying that they're from the dark side of the Moon. And she says, No, they're from a star system way out on the edge of the galaxy. So they're not even close to our solar system or anywhere , but they're here because there's life here and they're using us as test subjects . And so I don't think they 're not genetically manufactured or altered. I think that's who they are . They're just these big greys and they're strong. Holy cow, they're strong . Yeah, I did everything I can and I consider myself a very strong person the martial arts being and the Marines and stuff like that. And I had a heck of a time when we had a physical confrontation of getting him off at me. So can you tell us what happens? Because I read that in the book that they came for you and you resisted. What happened there , there's two different times. The first time they came and I tried to resist using the neuroblock that I was taught and it didn't work . They just came and got me and got me and they put me on their craft and I was on their craft and they started opening me up and doing all these experiments to me and I was feeling all of the pain, just like if it was done here on earth . And but I wasn't to the point of I wasn't dying because if you did that here on Earth, you would definitely die in times of the pain . But they actually injected me with something, some kind of a yellowish orange liquid that made my whole body glow inside and to the point that I reacted to the liquid as something I was dying . And if it wasn't for , you know, the Octurians and the Playians coming to rescue me at that time , that I definitely would have died and you know, the Octurians put me in a healing bed and helped me and brought me back, but it was still like three weeks after the event that I was still not doing well. In fact, the night that they brought me back my wife wanted me to go to the emergency room because she thought I was actually going to die. I was so sick . And I got through it, everything was fine, but then later in my book , they actually came and this time I was prepared because I've learned so much and I was ready for them and it turned into a physical altercation and they tried to take me. I'm like no you,'re not. they And grabbed me. I was picking one up and I threw it across the room. I hit it so hard that it landed on our coffee table in our bedroom and broke the coffee table and both of them came at me, both of the Sakaria grays came at me at once and I thought no and I pushed my hand forward and it was anger . It was pure anger that I sent to them and they just vanished . It was almost like a mist and they were gone . And one of the Shakari Greys was going to hurt my wife that they were going to take Holly and I told them they're not going to take you and that's the way it is. And he leave my wife alone . And it just got really ugly to the point that the last gray we got in a coffortation, it actually threw me so hard against I have my office area I do podcasts in and has kind of a false wall that looks like Aare fifty one . And I landed up against that, knocked it over, I broke my rib and broke my wrist , trying to defend myself and defend my wife. And finally I just stood up and set energy at him again that I was taught and they disappeared . And there's a lot more to the story you could read in the book. I go into a lot more detail, but yeah, that was the last confrontation I had with them it was to the point that they're turning up the scale now instead of the okay we're just going to take you . it Now's like, okay, we can't take you. We know who you are . Now becomes now it's a physical battle . It's not like all these nice little abductions . It's now become a serious abduction . Is it a thing where the Arcturians , even though the Shikara is so big and strong, the Arcturians can just deal with them easily, it's not a problem. Oh yeah , because when the Sakari's took me on the ship the first time when I remember just saying I can't fight this anymore. Okay, I'm ready to die . I remember a portal opening and them coming through and they had on like almost space suits . And I remember them walking over to the Octorians walking over to the Grays , picking them up off the ground with one hand , breaking their neck and letting them fall down . And the Palladians were doing the same thing and then Orla picked me up and took me out of there. And yeah, so the Octurans are very peaceful, kind, loving , but on the other side, they're very strong at the same time and they can defend themselves . Is the telepathy with the Shakara Graze different to other telepathy you've experienced ? Yeah, it's I compare it to telepathy with other beings is like clear water . Everything's clear. You can see everything moving in it and it's very clean and precise. Talking with the Shakari Graze is like a muddy black stream . You can't it's hard to focus, it's hard to concentrate. It's hard to get their thoughts where you want them to be. So I don't know if they have that ability to be able to do that so you can't read their thoughts or use the telepathy . But I have learned a different way now of reading them . It's different than just reaching out and being able to invade their mind where now I actually become part of them and they can't do anything about that. So they've taught me to switch . So hopefully the next thing they come , if they come, then I will be more prepared Is there a thing with the telepathy, whether it's the Greys or the Arcturians where you know which individual is communicating with you because there's a certain feeling to it, a certain essence that only they have. Yeah, like the Octurians, like I said, when you communicate with them, you can just It's a love. It's just a feeling of love with the grays , smaller grays , you just it's a feeling of darkness and evil , but it's not like an overpowering darkness and evil . It's not like I consider in the lecture I gave, I go the you know , the dark grays or if you feel it's more like they're more like Darth Vader or they're just obsessed with the darkness or the lighter grays smaller grays. I mean, yeah, you'd still feel the evil and stuff inside of them and what they want, but it's not as bad as the Sakari grays. And so I got a good laugh out of that when I gave the lecture, I compared the Shikari Grace with Arth ur and it helps everybody to kind of understand because if you've watched Star Wars , you understand how that would be explained . So what do you say to people who might suggest this is all science fiction, you're just making it up . If I had a dollar for every time somebody said that, I would be rich . There's so many people that even when I do podcasts because they're all live and they're like, well you need therapy, James. I'm like, well, I'm getting it . It's not helping . And so I try to use that a joke to lighten the mood to be able to do that. But I do have some people that actually are very rude or mean and said, you know, you're nutcase . You didn't see this. You're making this whole thing up . And I'm like, well , you know, we all have our free agency to believe what we want to believe. And if that's what you believe , that's fine . But I'm not ever denying that what's happening to me is real . And that's how I kind of deal with it. And people do call you crazy and delusional. And I've had friends call me schizophrenic and they don't talk to me anymore, which kind of breaks my heart . But they all have their ability to believe what they want to believe . And unfortunately , everything that's going on right now there's so much stuff that's being released and there's so many things that are happening that I think you're going to see people stop saying that . They're going to be like, huh, something's going on. I don't know if it's going on with you, but something's going on Yeah, I think one of the congressmen, sorry, I'm English. I'm not quite sure about that how it works all there, but David Grush was in this news conference the other day and they asked him about the aliens and he said something about there's such a wide range of them from physical to even it seems sentient plasma . Yeah, there's yeah, there's so many beings here that are on the earth. Our earth is like a little jewel in this area . And there's so many beings here that are they're kind, they're loving, and they want us to finally put away our childish things and grow up and do what we're supposed to do and they're hit they're waiting for us with open arms . So when that happens, they'll include us in and what's going on . But on the other hand, there's a lot of beings that are lower vibration that exude evil . And they want to use this for experimentation. They want this earth for themself . They want to start a war that's their whole be is evil . And so you have those two and there's there's no in the middle . There's no like, we're kind of this, we're kind of that. No. You're on the side of of we're waiting. These guys need to grow up. This is how it is , or we're going to take over your planet and we're going to slave you . So that's kind of the two the two sides that we have . But I'm finding more and more stories are coming forward of Octorians and Palladians contacting people . So I think it's coming short . I don't know when, but I think it's coming, that there's going to be a full disclosure. I think one of the things we do is kind of imprint on them the grays or whoever it is that they're just like us in the way they think and their motives and their emotions . But I feel that that's wrong. Would you say the Arcturans? They have the same IQ as us, the same kind of likes and dislikes The Octorians are so far beyond us. They live for thousands of years and they don't die like we die. They decide, hey, I've I've experienced everything I want to experience and then they move on to the next dimension . So they're really quite different . They have emotionally matured to the point that there's no evil . And it took me a while because when I'm there, everybody can read what you're thinking . And so one time I was thinking about something and I'm like, I wish people would just believe me. I'm so sick and tired of people not believing in me . And I had somebody stop and turn and look at me . And so they just they know those thoughts and feelings, but they just don't use them anymore. It's beyond them. That's old school . But with all of the other beings , that's what they're thriving in . Because even though the grays are way millions of years ahead of us, they're still holding on to that old school hate, evilness , oh, we want to take over you. We want to use your planet. They haven't learned how to love or they just don't have the capacity for love anymore. So can you tell us about is it your sister sorry ? Yeah . My sister sorry, she is a great person and I can't even express the love I had for her. We pretty much grew up together . And when I was first taking on the ship, she was the one that was helping me and teaching me how to use my telepathy and how to move things and how to use it . And my relationship with her is just like any other sibling. We don't we have never fought that's above them . But we have talks and we have fun. We eat at dinner and she says, How is her family? How is this? And we have this great relationship because we grew up together . So there is that sibling thing that's going on. She is just she's very Octorean . She doesn't think like I do. So sometimes I would say something and she'll go, What does that mean? And I'll kind of chuckle . And then she will look at me with a look like you're an idiot. Not thinking that way because they would never think that way, but kind of that way that yeah anyway . So just growing up together, it was a lot of fun and I had other friends too that I grew up with that were there, but I've always stayed really close with my sister and she speaks to me when I get really down , Simon, and sometimes I just sit and cry , because even though I'm old, I'm older , I still have those feelings and sometimes it just becomes very overwhelm ing for me. Like, why can't I be normal? Why can't you get I wish this never would have happened? And when I get at my lowest point , I always get a download . And what downloads are a telep athic connection between one being and another . And a lot of the time she's like, Little brother, it's okay. I know what you're feeling. I can feel your tears . It's okay. And she will just talk to me and then afterwards I feel so much better . But I'm always amazed how she always knows the times that I'm the lowest and how she always helps me. I'll be forever grateful for her ever . She's just I feel kind of sad because I'm not going to live thousands of years or she will. And I've asked her before. I'm like, Are you going to miss me? She goes, Well , I will miss your energy and the spirit that you have. I'm like, okay, that's okay because they don't talk like we talk but yeah she's she's such a great person and she's very thin and tall and she works at the what I call thead Aemcy now where they have star children from all over the galaxy that they train there and the same training I went through, but it's in a more of a bigger classroom setting Do they ever talk about life after death or stuff like reincarnation? They talk about the Arcturians believe in a God, but they call him the Creator . They don't call him the God . And so they believe that he was he created everything in the universe in all the dimensions that are out there. And they talk about have love and peace and kindness and this is what the creator wants and you need to have this for another beings and if you can understand and do , then you can elevate yourself to different levels where one day you can actually be with the creator . Now when I was talking, you know, I had this conversation with Lauren before and she's like, there's different levels that we get to . And you guys are like at level three . They're on level ten. God is at level twelve . And so there's a whole bunch of different levels that we're going to have to get to be able to do that. I'm like, I understand that, but why don't you call him your father? Because you know, I've been brought up to teach, you know, he's my God. And he's my father . And why don't you guys like, well , we were the first created . So we are the first beings that the Creator created . And so we don't call Him the Father, we call Him our Creator . I'm like, okay, that makes sense. Okay . And so yeah, I hope that answers your question . Now you say in the book they expanded your connection to the web of light. What does that mean ? The web of light is everywhere in the universe , every dimension , there is a connection. It's kind of like if you have a giant spider web and you lay it over the universe and every little connection where it crosses is a point . So I was taught how to use my telepathy and use that web where I can focus on a spot clear across the galaxy or clear across the universe and I can see in my mind that planet or that being or whatever . Now this web is a connecting. That's why when you see UAPs in the sky and they're they come and then within a second they disappear. What they're doing is traveling through the web. Like they will come along here, pop out one, go back , and then they might pop out clear by Mars within not even a second . So the web it's made for traveling. You can physically travel that way or you can mentally travel that way . And that's how I was taught over a course of many days and it was really hard that I could think