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Another Side of Midnight with Lionel
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Reflecting on Life and Mother's Day
From Another Side of Midnight with Lionel | 05-10-26 — May 10, 2026
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Wh scared me really. Much like are much are are anywhere near One particular area juvenile. And juvenile dealt with not only crimes involved being delinquents. Delinquents are crimes that if They were commended by an adult would be a call to crime, but this is a delinquency or a delinquent act. And what was even more interesting, which I find fascinating, is something else which I find very, very interesting. This is How do I say this? The Part that was the worst part was the dependency part of it. You see, the state Most states can take away children. From their families. In the case of abuse. Neglect. or abandonment. And it sounds terrific. It really does. It sounds like well of course we need that. And indeed we do. There are sometimes some parents are so awful, so terrible. That And I saw this where The state moves in, and even though Even though Yes. The child is probably better off. There was a part of me even then that said, Yeah. But how mad does it have to be? before the state intervenes the state comes in and says, Okay, we're going to actually act. We we're going to act. We're going to intervene. We're going to interrupt. We're going to come in and we're going to take your child away from you. It's called TPR termination. parental rights. It was the worst. Sometimes it was warranted, sometimes a lot of times I thought to myself I don't think this is bad enough. Who is a judge? Who is some twenty something year old social worker? Who were they to say who is better able to take care of a child. Do you and I one time we're shocking, I said, do you believe in God? And he said yes. Do you believe that God creates these things? These Parenting. Parenthood. Maternity, paternity. You don't need a state. to warrant that, to agree to that, to sanction that? Of course not. So here's my question. How is it that the state can come in And then In cases, again, not not obvious, there were some kids who were basically abandoned, literally. I mean, if it wasn't for the state, these kids would die. But in cases where parent wasn't really that good. For example, what they would do is, and happens a lot. There's some kind of a problem of maybe abuse of neglect, maybe there's some kind of um oh water. Some abuse that's uh that's there. And by the way, let me ask you a question. If somebody were to ask you what is and is not allowed. In terms of spanking. Can you spank your child? Can you? You're gonna answer yes. You're gonna say, in fact, spare the rod, spoil the child. You love spanking. Oh, Americans love spanking. And I'm not here to argue one way or the other. But tell me what is and isn't appropriate. Because there is no set there's no statute. If you leave a red mark, if you leave a welt. If you leave some kind of a bruise. If you tan their high, if you take a switch. A stick. Belt. And you sh and you you or hit them. And people say, Oh, we're not beating them. Define beating. And by the way, if you want to get into words, you should see when we go into that. Whipping. Are you whipping your child with the belt? When you think of whipping, I'm thinking Django, I'm thinking roots, I'm thinking Chicken George and oh my god, Kunta Kinte and This is horrible. Call the police and ask 'em what can or can't I do? They they can't tell you. And if that child Halls up. Somebody from CPS or Whatever your diphus or whatever the name is in your state. And says, I'm being abused. I promise you. Some overworked Underpaid. twenty something. A lot of 'em are young. who have no children. does not want to be even remotely a part of something where a kid could end up dead. And their name's gonna be in the paper. as having okayed the I guess child staying. So they will take your kid away. Maybe an initially place it with a relative or something. And kids know this. We learned this when sometimes kids were going to parents, to teachers and saying, I feel like a girl When they were a boy. And they would have genetic counseling and puberty blocking without the parents knowing. I'm telling you. Remember, with all that you have to worry about. Believe. The state loves to destroy everything. It wants to destroy every bit of your autonomy. Everything. Everything from the ability for you to but have a gas stove or electric fans. regular non uh you know the old fluorescent light bulbs. It it wants to control everything. It's destroying the tourist industry, the travel industry, the the the uh the cruise industry, it's destroying everything. And people are sitting back and saying, Wow, look at that. And believe me when I tell you this. What it wants more than anything else is your kids. So as we celebrate Mother's Day. Ask yourself this question. Do you think there are some people who shouldn't be mothers? What happens when a baby is born to a mother and there's drugs in her blood system? Do we take the child away? And for how long? And then when that period of bonding has Has Elapsed. And there's no connection. What happens then? Let's go to the phones, eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two eight hundred. eight four eight nine two two two. Let's go to Tom Chicago. Tom, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Hey, how's it going, Lana? You know, my my mom used to I loved my mom, right? But she used to do things like that that that really kinda like mess with my psyche. We'd be outside playing basketball, full court, everything, she had come to the window. Call my name. Tell me to come in. And turn the TV. Like I always say, What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? What What now that I'm here, you must have something important to tell me, so uh And they said, Okay, good. Now that you're here. I control you. Now leave me alone or let me watch TV. Right. You know, and another another thing, we talk about this subject. How do I I mean how do kids grow up in same sex uh marriages? That fascinates me, as you say. Mm-hmm. Well First and foremost. I will tell you this. That the most important thing is when a child feels love And attention. And I don't know. If a child really understands differences in terms of, hey, there's no mail unit here. If you look at studies of parents or families where Let's say one of the parents dies tragically, or fathers who went to war and they were raised without a father. Um Look at the black community. Now how how much of this is anecdotal? And you probably know a few things about this because you're quite the reader. But you but there's sometimes there things might be anecdotal, but they they talk about sometimes a matri not in all cases, but a matrix centric, mother based, grandmother based. Uh a lot of women Not so much fathers. Again, not in every case. Not at all. I think the numbers are probably the same as others, but You you don't see you don't see this in certain cultures at all. What about those cases? Do you believe in each other? That that's a little bit different because Uh like I had Uh, same sex marriage live next to me. Two women. And the kids should say, I can't when they first moved in, I was like, Okay. The kids say, When my father come home Uh Uh, they was throwing rocks and whatever. And my father come on and I tell him to stop throwing rocks. My father come home, he's gonna deal with you. And I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting to see the father and his chick comes up. I don't know. And that's what I'm saying. That's a that's that's different from your daughter raising a child. You know, Okay. I'm sorry, go ahead. Well It's it's it's this different from mom and sister or mom and uh uh Grandmama raising that same so then As uh That lack of that other parent, that that father figure, mother figure in the in the family. It kinda like uh you can start seeing it in them like guys that get real emotional. Women don't know what love is. You know, it's it's it's it's crazy. I don't know. Again, I don't know enough of the studies. I know that I can look towards something that I think kind of is more Tom kind of um kind of anecdotal where I'm thinking, Well, this is kind of what I'm looking for. I do know that How do I say this? First and foremost. You learn You know, when these parents will say, You know, I taught my kids. I taught my son. You didn't teach them anything. You didn't teach it, you don't teach kids. They see things. You teach by observation. You can sit down and explain to a child. Now you understand That stealing is wrong. You you can you can talk. People love they they think they're m they're they're uh Solomon, you know, like they speak so When when parents show you things You really learn. And if you have a parent If you have two parents that kind of get along, mom and dad, they love each other. It's I mean, it's it's not perfection. It's realistic. Maybe you have siblings. And you I I think that is a wonderful basis for you to live your life because it shows you this is this is it's not Ward, you know, June and Ward Cleaver, it's not leave it to beaver, but at least it's something. Then again. You'd be surprised how resilient you can say, Okay, what if we take that mail away? Okay, that's one thing. What if we replace that male with a woman? Let me ask you this time. Do you think that sexuality or gender Is Elected? Trained or is it just the way it is? Is it inherent? It's just the way it is, man. It ain't uh a woman n knows is like that's a natural instinct. The no do women things. Like if you said a ball Pack a listing. You know, in front of a g a girl, I think quite nicely she's gonna go for that lipstick. There's something about that lip gloss that just turns her on. Right. Or in your case, you would put lipstick on the ball, which is a whole nother story, because you're demented. But aside from that Here's the question I have. Do you know that when they gave blocks to little boys, you know, blocks. Right. How high could they make that stack of blocks? A little girl would take those same blocks and spread 'em out. Like a home. Like a family. Like you know what I mean? It would it's a different it's a different thing altogether. But let me ask you this question. Right. Now here's what I heard years ago. And I d I don't think there's anything to this, but Kinda like the idea. There was something that I read, again perhaps anecdotal, that said The more older brothers a male has The greater the likelihood he's gay. Again, the more well, but you don't even know why yet. The more older brothers you have Meaning you might say, Let's say there's five boys and you're the baby. Okay? 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Cool jazz And I know you're not supposed to say this because it's another radio station and whatever it is, but I'll tell you one of the best uh jazz stations is BGO. And I think they uh thank God. We had great radio stations. in various parts of the country that you could kind of listen into and it's wonderful. But when cool jazz terrific. I love the Brecker Brothers. And then right around the 80s maybe? You remember when um Fat Burger and uh Spyro Gyra and I mentioned the Brecker Brothers uh Lee Ritten Hour Weather Report, Chick Korea, CTI, Craig Creed Taylor, it was wonderful. How about this This is a great Um Story The disturbing moment. I can't see. When something is horrible to me. I laugh. It's terrible. I I can't help it. I'm not laughing 'cause I think it's funny. I'm laughing because it's terrible. The disturbing moment of person sucked into Frontier Airlines engine at takeoff. The collision caused a brief fire, which the report airport said was quickly extinguished. This is from the mirror. This is from the UK mirror. Disturbing video captured the moment a Frontier Airlines aircraft struck. pedestrian on the runway at Denver International Airport on Friday night. Have you been to Denver? Please come to Denver, Dave Loggins. It's weird. You know the whole Illuminati story about that. The plane which was travelling to Los Angeles Reported striking a pedestrian during takeoff. Excuse me. How is there a pedestrian At eleven nineteen PM. According to how how does this w happen? The video shows the plane going down the runway until a loud bang is heard. With a Fox News host left in disbelief over the horror incident. Several passengers could be heard gasping and screaming. While one person scream in shock. according to the airport, the pedestrian was killed after the collision. It comes after the horrifying control tower audio was released. With a chilling six word comment. About Lim. There were limbs strewn about And again I ask you. How in the hell? Does this happen? How does this even happen? Um New story here. Just a second. I want you to get this other aspect to it. Just think of the horror of this. Consumed by the engine. Here we go. Death On the runway. This is from the Daily Mail. A loud boom, then screams. I thought we'd die. Frontier crash passengers. I wanna know how was it? The individual is dead. And it's not been identified. Apparently he was he had imagined 'cause you always think about this. You always I remember as a kid thinking. I'm hearing that you could get sucked into the engine. Or that you can get sucked out of the aircraft. Between that and spirit and the cruise, the cruise industry. Do you get the impression? I know this may sound crazy. But do you get the impression? that somebody may be doing everything in their power to destroy what is left of our ability to travel. Remember the awful story about this one What was it? J J F K LaGuardia, this woman who've who who was ejected what, three hundred feet? This these Yes. I guess this GPS Again another another runway collision in that post um T S A problem with the A traffic air traffic controllers. You see, I'm not saying this was done deliberately. But what's being done is to remind people how horrible things are, how terrible things are, how dangerous things are. Because what they want you to do is to say, nah, not interested. Look what they're doing to the cruise industry. This hantivirus. Hantivirus. They want to scare you. And the news, cable news in particular, are so bereft over the fact that they're losing all of their viewership. They have to come up with something really good and gruesome and sickening to make you pay attention. Coming up my friend, hour number two. I want to talk to you about this thing, a very scary thing about the loss. of the first amendment. And by the way, it's not coming from the government necessarily. It's coming from citizens. Because it's not the thought police that scared me, but the thought vigilantes. Well we're coming up on this special Mother's Day edition. on another side of midnight with a lion. It's another Side of Midnight with Lionel. It's another side of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk Studios. Here's Lionel. Everybody lined up with you, hour number two. On the On not the on another side. I'll never get this right as long as I live. Another side of midnight. This special Mothers Day version. God bless the mothers. All you mothers out there. The mothers of invention. You know, there's a uh I'm gonna put all my my predictions on the Some kind of a paper Or a letter. I'm gonna mail it to somebody so that when all my predictions come true, you'll say, Hey, he was ahead of the time. I don't want to say this now because it will bother people. But you know everything's changing, right? I mean you know everything. Is changing. Everything. I mean Everything. And one of the things that's changing is we need to really ask ourselves What are we doing in terms of Pallet political parties. What do we really believe in? This is one of my favorite topics. Because when you talk to people nobody do they say, Well, you know, uh Nobody really knows because it's it's not something which is a of of grave interest to most people. But I will tell you this. One of the things which I think we need to do is remind ourselves what is the basic of what we do. Think about what you and I are doing right now. What is the thing that really keeps us going? That's right. The first amendment. The first amendment. Is what is so critical. Absolutely so manually critical. It's something that is so much a part of our Life, I guess you would say as part of our life, that we ask ourselves a very, very simple question. What is it that we need to do to keep things going? Well let me explain something to you. First. A real American Which I think we all are. I hope we are. A real American understands that the rules apply For everyone. You know, not for thee and not for me, but I mean everyone. including protections and the like. And the thing that most Americans hate more than anything else is the first amendment. They hate it. Because what drives people crazy is when somebody mouths off and spews some garbage about something which they don't believe in, especially something that they believe is antithetical to this country, antithetical to the way we think, antithetical to the way we believe. Contrary to the basics. Of what we believe in. We talk about these left radical and you've heard people say about you when you right wing you've probably been called I've been called everything. Um I th I think they they're white nationalist? Um They tried nativist for a while. I I I don't know where they they come up with this thing, but uh racist and uh fascist and say, What are you talking about? And each person knows the routine and we repeat the same thing about the other people. But what really is important you understand is, okay, people are gonna say this and they're they're You know, average Joes and that's fine, and they don't know any better. But do you really believe in this first amendment thing or not? I mean, do you really do you really freedom of speech, do you really does it really mean something to you? Because one of the greatest dangers I keep telling people to freedom. It's not censorship that arrives You know, openly wearing, you know, uniformed Tyranny, you know, jack booted, you know, banging on the door and Like they do in the UK. where they get mad at you for tweeting something or posting something. But it is the selective enforcement. that's disguised as some kind of justice. Like I say, it's not the thought police, the thought vigilantes, especially coming from people. Who are your fellow Citizens. See the law becomes very dangerous, not merely when it's broken. But when it's applied unevenly. depending upon who's speaking and what they're saying. And depending upon who's in power. And whose political interests are being protected. Now that is the concern. That is being raised. a lot increasingly whenever prosecutors appear More interested in political symbolism. Then Consistent. Constitutional standards. I wish I could tell you I felt a real great feeling of satisfaction and warmth and uh um Faith. in this current iteration of DOJ and FBI, but I don't. I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't feel that. I don't feel like that at all. What Todd Blanche is doing by bringing a charge against Comey You know what I'm talking about. The controversy that's surrounding the phrase eighty six, forty seven, it's still it's not going away now. Don't think that it was this was mentioned before and ah we're moving on. Oh no no no no no. Perfectly illustrates the issue right now. See, the debate is not really about Seashells by the seashore or Internet slang, it is about weather. And this is the issue. Whether political expression. Even crude, even Even provocative, even mean, even kind of dangerous. remains protected. in our great country when directed at powerful figures. Now once Once any government, our government, whatever the regime is. Once your government begin stretching, you know, kind of vague language into criminal threats. The line that separates political disagreement from Speech in that sense prosecutable becomes really thin I mean really thin, alarmingly thin. Doesn't this bother you? Doesn't this bother you? And too many of my friends are saying, nah, the hell with Comey. I hate Comey. I didn't ask you whether you hated him or not. See, historically we Americans understood Political rhetoric. Remember remember what we started from. Political speech and rhetoric. Is often Very emotional. It's exaggerated, it's rude, it's heated, it's sometimes obscene. Sorry. The founders themselves use vicious language. Oh my God. Remember this. Remember who was it? People one guy But was he clubbed to death on the floor of the house? Listen to what they said about Andrew Jackson and his wife. What was her name? Rachel. They said she was they weren't married. Remember that that he was a bigamist? What they said about Abraham Lincoln. Oh my God. Making simian references. What they said about FDR. Newspapers in the early Uh Republic. accuse presidents of corruption, tyranny, betrayal. Oh, uh Grover Cleveland. You can see his birthplace on Bloomfield Avenue right there. You can you can see it. The only well the first The first president uh who was elected to two non consecutive roles. The level of hostility it would shock. what you're seeing today. In fact, the country survived because Americans Very wisely, I think, very wisely recognize that Free political speech. Has got to include not only polite stuff. But really sharp criticism. And the first amendment, which I love It was never designed merely to protect harmless speech or polite, you know, naughty speech. Nobody needs constitutional protection for saying something that's Accepted by everybody. That's not the point. But the amendment exists precisely to protect really nasty. politically controversial, offensive, politically charged thought, expression, words. And that protection. becomes absolutely critical. When emotions are high and we're angry and we're going nuts. Look. We've we've talked about this before. But I want you to on be on be aware of something. Be very be very afraid. Be very afraid. And I'm telling, not the government. Your citizens. Your citizens. Let's go back to the phones, back to what I call fun. Let's go to a man by the name of Alan on Long Island. Alan, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Lying you have half the audience out of their bed and half the audience in their bed staring at the ceiling. Your show is awesome. Now I'm a firm b I'm a firm believer in free speech. I'm a believer in people's and creativity of thought. Now, two weeks ago We had Chucky from uh from England come over and give a speech in front of Congress. Now my interpretation of free speech is that Tommy Robinson of the UK should have been able to speak in front of Congress and talk about what's going on. Yes, going on in the United Kingdom and it was going on in Europe. Were that European With European continent is being turned upside down. They're turning poor little Ireland into Somalia. Well I know people have told me that they have elderly relatives there who are afraid to leave their homes during the day and some and mostly at night too. Is that the way to live? Is that freedom? Is that free speech? Of course it isn't. It's a it's an absolute turnover the country uh and and the European continent and America, and I believe And I know what it is. It's the Saudi Arabian oil money that bought off all these politicians in Europe and America. They're pouring billions in here. That's why you don't hear anybody say anything about the fifteen Saudi Arabian freaks that attacked us on nine eleven. I know there was nineteen, but fifteen From Saudi Arabia. The communist communist Chinese sent the virus to America. No one ever says none. They just talk about Fauci. Fauci is a front. That's all he is. He's a key elf. He's put out there. He's well paid to take a beating for the establishment. If you keep saying Fauci. If you keep saying his name You're protecting the Chinese communists and you're protecting Saudi Arabia. Let me ask you a question. You mentioned Tommy Robinson. Describe who he is. to people and why is he relevant here and why don't you think he's being I mean as if anybody would question, but why don't you think he's being invited here? Who is he first? Well Tommy Robinson is just like a lot of people in this audience. He's fed up with the invasion of his homeland, like we are here in America. And but he's speaking out about it and he's actually going out there videoing and confronting people who are acting subhuman in places like London and Paris and Rome and he's taking a lot of heat for it. He's been thrown in jail and and England his home country they turn against him. They he he says something and they turn against them. They're against him because He is rattling the cage of the powers of Europe who want the European continent invaded. Don't let a I I don't believe any of these politicians over there. They're all lost. What he's also doing is that he is bringing up the fact that there are these Grooming. There were g these banding Bad these these horrible uh groups of young men from various parts of the world, certainly not from Europe. who want to groom and sexually attack and and confront our children. He is extremely problematic. Oh, I think he's a hero. Now people will say he's a racist yeah yeah yeah. By the way, if ever you're called racist Uh, anti Semitic, homophobic, or anything. you must be doing something right. Because they never say what you're saying is wrong. They just say that you are You know, whatever it is. But here's the thing, aside from that. I don't want somebody to lose fact, even even though you're right about what what you're saying. I didn't want people to understand that what makes this country great Is the fact Then we can say some terrible thing. By the way, Alan, thank you for your call. Remember the Anarchist Cookbook, nineteen seventy one, Supreme Court said it was okay. clan marching in Skokie. Let's go to uh Helena in Westchester County. You're on the on another side of Midnight with Lionel Now what the hell happened to you, Lionel? You know, you used to be a lot More unique. Now you're reading crap. Instead of uh Talk from the top of your brain and now you're putting the goddamn Politics are we here. Enough of that crap during the day. Listen, Lionel, you are unique. all of a sudden you got lazy and you're starting to talk like All the daytime idiots. Not idiots. They're they're good people. But I mean uh You know. I used to worry if I usually if I didn't uh get home in time to hear you at night. But you're getting boring and I I think you're just getting lazy. I don't mean to offend you. Bye. I'm sure you're offended. But not really because Helena I promise you I am not offended in the least. I appreciate what your thoughts are. I want to thank you for calling and I personally don't care. what you say, but I but I appreciate what you're saying. It means a lot to me right now. This is a story which I think is so critical. This is about where we're going kind of as a country. Now if you want to talk about Martians, we'll talk about that too. That's coming up as well. But what I what what scares me we're not gonna be able to talk about anything or do anything if we lose that very part, that very thing That makes us who we are. And that's the first amendment. And you may not understand that, and you know what? You're entitled to that. And by the way Appreciate your call. I really do. You know what I like more than that? Your sweetness. The sweetness and kindness in your voice. This is another side of Midnight with Lionel. It's another Sign of Midnight with Lionel. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task, unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business. From designing a website to marketing to selling and beyond, Shopify can help with everything you need. 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They're gonna take what your woman what what what you're saying, like this one woman who called up. Very nice woman, but A little little on the pr snickety side, but that's okay. Cantanerous, but I'm sure loving Loving in her own way. And what somebody's gonna do is they're gonna say, you know I think that the uh this individual we found out that he um he might be suffering from well bouts of depression. He might be going to a psychiatrist for mental health treatment. We might want to red flag him. By virtue of what he says. We might want to take you know, he's uh He's a little paranoid. And you can say, Well, yeah, he's paranoid because he was a let's say he's he was in the military. Maybe he was maybe maybe he was overseas. Maybe he saw a variety of horrors and the like. But what's interesting to note. is that they're gonna use that And your ability to speak and say things. They're gonna use that to curtail another right. Is that Is that boring? Is that the kind of a Stuff you hear that boring stuff it's And during the day. What is this day and night stuff? I don't understand that. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. Don't I don't understand it. People always talk about Art Bell. Why didn't they put on Art Bell during the day? Why not? I don't understand I I seriously. That was fascinating no matter what. But what happened was normally they would say, Well You know, we're gonna have to put this kind of discussion at night because well, frankly, it's a little weird. And it was put there and sideline there. Almost as a As a disparaging comment as to the subject matter. See the subject matter that to me is the most important is the stuff that we should be talking about all the time. during the day. Like for example, all of these UFO reports where nothing's happening with that. Nothing. The JFK report. Nothing's happening with that. And how there is a systematic attempt, as many of us believe. And let me make sure I'm reading my notes correctly, because as you know I read So many of the thoughts that we believe that are systematically being taken away from us. Me like that. By virtue of the fact that there are people who are who want to destroy the travel industry. Do you think that there are almost How do I say this? that there are memos that go out to say really Really? Ratchet up the hantavirus scare. Ratchet up the problems with air travel. Let's get people not Travelling. Don't you think? Eduardo in Tampa? Eduardo, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Lino Yeah, good Yeah, hello. Uh well my birthday's gonna be uh Monday. Um Miss Mother's Day Mother's Day. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. How old are you? How old will you be, sir? Uh the double five. Double nickel. Excellent. Mm-hmm. Yep, double nickel, yeah. Well happy birthday. Felice cumpleaños to you, sir. Yeah, and I'll be starting a new position at uh A hospital in uh Brandon. What will you be doing, Paretel? What will you be doing? I'll be moving um patients around. Nation transporter. Whether they like it or not, you're just gonna start moving people. See, I think you've been in this room too long, lady, we're moving you. Listen, congratulations. I hope it's a great. Yeah. Hopefully it'll go well. Yeah. What's on your mind, my friend? Oh nothing uh just not you a a con is um I mean uh I miss hear news during the week, but I'm glad you're out. Nothing is on your mind. You there there there is nothing out of everything going on in your life, in the world, around the world, in the news, out of the news. Yeah. Yeah, and Don't let our previous caller hear you. She may call you and execrate you for daring to do that. Listen, I wish you the best. And listen, let me also say Happy birthday to you, my friend. Enjoy the rest of the show. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. That was Eduardo. Very, very honest. Russ and white plains. Rush, you're on We gotta like that. Russ, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Thanks, Lionel. You sound a lot more relaxed and I think it's better for you in in your health. It's much better now, although maybe a three four split on the week might satisfy some people. But you know, L like you said, fear works to motivate people. That's why they go about climate change, the nukes in Iran. And the immigrants. You know, that guy Alan Steve of Manhattan who wanted Robinson to speak to Congress. Well some people might want Hassan like her to speak to Congress. You know, and unless Alan McCulloch is black and some of his ancestors were kidnapped and forced to labor without compensation, his European ancestors were forced to come here by their neighbors because they didn't want them there. So the Indians didn't want Alan. Or any other Europeans like myself here. So I think he's just working up anger, but I'm glad he's also you can fish. What what fetish, please? I'm sorry, what? He's the Piken, Pikinny, Pikenny, he's the fetish. Stop for a second. Stop, stop, stop. Oh you know. That there is literally No one who knows what you're even talking about? For us to talk about somebody else who's not here, let's talk about you. Russ, what what are you thinking about? Not other callers. What are you thinking about? Well, when someone calls up that's racist, I think it's a good thing. Stop for a second. We're not talking about that anymore. This is this is boring. Boring I saw that. What right now do you think? Do you wait to see what other people say before you react? out of all the situations, all the things that are going on right now, what do you find fascinating? Do you think there's gonna be ever anything said or done regarding these UFO files? You know nothing's gonna happen, right? Nothing. Nothing. UFOs Well I'm just waiting for Bigfoot. I saw that Sasquatch was a female. You see that picture from nineteen sixty seven, Sasquatch is a female? Listen, I have very random thoughts, Lionel. I just like hearing you on the weekends much, much better and that crazy woman that wants you to be nasty with the call is Oh no no no I don't think she no no I don't think she wants me to be nasty. I think she no no no no no she's no no Listen, Rush, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Have a good day, sir. Nobody calls about inside radio. Nobody says who the I don't know who the hell he's talking about. I have no idea. And you don't either. The thing I was gonna talk about which which I find interesting is There's about twenty different things that always concern me. loads of things that concern me. I think sometimes I might be the only one. And the reason why is because I'm telling now this week First of all, a couple of things too. Ben Shapiro's world is collapsing. Ben Shapiro. It Laura Loomer. These Don't know if you've been following this. It is the wildest. Our good friend uh Roger Stone and Laura Loomer, he has a lot to say about that. But he has been Absolutely positively. Beside himself attacking Uh America Sweetheart, Candace Owens. Which you may or may not agree with, which is fine. But what's interesting about this is there was a case that over the weekend Involving Tyler Robinson. And they're having Cameras in the courtroom. I cannot wait. And it's something which I wanted to ask you your thoughts, I'll give you my ideas, and then we'll share. It's called an interposition. For the longest time people forget, speaking of the Constitution, that pesky constitution again, God. Daytime talk. But there's this wonderful thing where people are provided and people are guaranteed this notion called a speedy and a public trial. And what you're gonna be doing is you're gonna be seeing one of the best cases ever. And you're gonna have cameras. And what's interesting is that I remember when We used to talk about OJ, people were captivated, captivated to the point of being riveted by the scintillation of fact. And then this case coming up Tyler Robinson, if you've been following this. They're gonna connect him with nothing. If this guy doesn't walk There's no justice. They have a rifle, they can't connect to them. They don't even have confessions. They really don't have much of anything. They have zip because a lot of people suspect. And this may be really kind of dare I say conspiracy minded. They have a lot of people who suspect That he might be able to respond or he might need or he might be um Dare I say that he should have been, for lack of a better word, set up. Mr. Mr Lee, if you could text me a a the particular passage, the secret code numbers. I would appreciate that. You see Tyler Robinson, who, by the way, is the alleged the putative murderer of Charlie Kirk. Tyler Robinson. Didn't shoot anybody. I mean nobody. Zero. And the more people are looking into this, the more they're realizing, wait a minute. None of this gunshot stuff is even consistent. You see, we've never had with with what gunshots are. You see, in the case of things like Well how do I say this? In the case of JFK R F K Others as well. They have not There was never a doubt that guns were used. Never. Never. question was who's gone? whether it's MLK, RFK, we knew it was a it was a bullet for sure. Or a series of bullets. From where is a different story. Do you know that in the Tyler Robinson case, they're not even sure if it was a bullet. Or where I came from. Or from one angle. And this rifle that they have? Now think about this one. This is if you like courtroom stuff. I mean, if you like like most people love, they always talk about real crime. What's most fascinating about this is that the rifle that they found, this rifle There was no indication that he was even fired. And one of the reasons why it wasn't indicated that or indication that there was no fired was because it wasn't. You see, they had these dogs. These dogs were wonderful. And these dogs that were sent out, these dogs could Pardon my French. They could smell a fish fork. And they are so sensitive to everything. And they went past this rifle repeatedly. The reason why? Because it wasn't fired. An FBI agent found it. They see nobody's telling you this because Cable news and the collective media. Have agreed. This guy is going to be made or is going to be guilty. Period End of Discussion. We want him to be guilty. And we don't care about anything. So you have this rifle. where there is no connection whatsoever. So there's no way they're gonna be able to introduce it. And if they don't introduce it, and if they can't introduce it, then that means there's no connection to it. So imagine you're a juror. And you go back there and you're supposed to Find him guilty. Based on what? Then there's the issue of Well did he Admit. To anything. Did he admit to the crime? Admit to what? admit to what well Did he admit to shooting Charlie Kirk? With what? With the rifle. The rifle's not connected to the murder. You mean another rifle, maybe? Not the one they found. The one that has DNA, his DNA on it, because it's his. No. Did he did he confess to anything? Not really. When he went to the police department and they gave him Miranda. They mirandized him. He didn't admit. He he didn't say anything. He's telling everybody in the world that he did it. His Discord group His gay trans lover June bug or Luna or Twig, whatever his name is. And and and that was okay, but he never told the police. Never. He turned himself in, never confessed to it. So you're the jury and you say, Wait a minute. What are we supposed how do we find him guilty? How? How do we find them guilty? With what? It's phenomenal. You say, Well with a rifle. There's no connection to the Oh yeah. Maybe another rifle? And by the way, was he there? Guess he was there. Was that hib on the roof? Don't know. What about that little hole? Any hunters? We have any hunters out there. You ever shot a thirty odd six? Thought of a Mauser ninety eight. You ever done that before? Does ever leave a little tiny hole little hole in the neck? It's supposedly cervical vertebrae were so strong, so incredible, so powerful. that they that the bullet couldn't even shatter it. And it went from C two to C seven. before the b before T went and went. Down his his uh His uh spinal cord. In essence. It makes no sense. None of it. So you've got this guy, there's no bullet. I'm not even sure what they found in his body. I'm not even sure what they found. Now other people are saying, and I'm not endorsing this, but some people are suggesting that there was a microphone he had on. They had a really weird kind of Design to it. People were saying it was a directional charge and all this other kind of stuff. I don't know. But none of this stuff there was no exit wound. So let me go back to what I'm saying. If I could bring in and if I bring in if I'm theoretically a defense lawyer and I bring in an expert. Let's say a retired gunnery sergeant, somebody who's a hunter, somebody who knows what they're doing, somebody who's had tremendous experience. In the past. Do you think Their testimony would be such that his head would have come clean off. As Dirty hair, he would say. This is inconsistent. with what a thirty out of six would do. Does even leave an exit wound? Do you hear what I'm saying? Look at me. Do you hear what I'm saying? This is one of the biggest cases And you've got no rifle and no confession. Let me ask you again. How do you find him guilty? Jerry's gonna be asked, Well what do you think? While we're on the subject. And I know you don't like me to say this. Or maybe they should be on. During the the afternoon. I don't know. Is this afternoon talk? I'm not sure. Oh, what the hell? Let's throw caution to the wind. Remember the uh shooter and the w a and I never mentioned the names of these people. The White House correspondent dinner shooter. Yeah. Anything ever come from that? Nope. Did you hear what I said? Nothing came from that. No investigation. Nothing. Nothing. You've got Luigi Manjon, you hear more about him. Hey, it's his birthday. He's you know, whatever it is. Did you hear this suicide note? The the the The um Epstein suicide note? Listen. Let me tell you again. Supposedly the number one Podcast theme is true crime. This is what people say all the time. But if they have the NAB or they have these awards and they have the number one are the normally it's like two teenage girls kind of giggling about some event that took place. Something happens in our country and nothing nobody talks about it. This uh theoretical attempted assassination of the president of President Trump again Nobody Talks about it. Faith. Nothing. Not what How did this happen? Heads will roll. Why do you think that is? Why what do you think that is? How come nothing ever came Epstein's brother, by the way, who looks more and more like uh Lester Holt? He said, This is a forgery. This is ridiculous. Why doesn't anything come of that? Why doesn't anybody ask Cash Patel or uh Don Bon Gino that nut? Where did you come up with the idea that this was a suicide? Nothing. Nobody says anything. Zero. Where's Pam Bondy? Whatever happened to her. What if happen to the quote Epstein files? 'Cause many, many people think that there are these files. Remember when she said, I can't release these pictures because these are all this is all um child pornography or CSAM, child sexual abuse material. They actually believe this. This is what she told you. She told you this. I can't release it. What happened to her? Is it over? Is it done? That's it! It's like it never happened. What ha we have the attention span of a We have no interest in this. The American public sits back. And if nobody brings it up. They don't bring it up. You have the ability right now on your phone to set up any news story. You can be the news director. You could say, I want to know what is happening with this story, this story, this story, this story, and I want You to come up with my my my newspaper. You can even hit it on your phone if you use chat GPT or or whatever AI program you want. It's pretty good stuff to scrape the stories. And I want to hear. reduced to a A recording. where you can actually hear a kind of like a playback. So you can listen to it if you were. You have the ability. to craft any news there is. You want to hear about Sasquatch, you want to hear about Yetis, you want to hear about UFOs, you can do whatever you want. But you know what most Americans do? Nothing. They sit back and they say, Okay, you decide. Remember when This is important to me. Like most people, we lived by radio, which is wonderful, of course. Music radio, which is wonderful, of course, which is great. Which is great. But It was we were at the mercy of whoever the disc jockey was, or whoever the programmer was, or whatever the And if they did if we If we didn't hear it, that was it. Plus we had to go through commercials and that sort of thing. Pandora came before this, Spotify came and now you can program again on your own. the greatest radio station of all time. YouTube by the way has music that you can just program What happened to us? What? Happened. We just we're waiting. If nobody brought this up again, listen to what I'm saying. If nobody brought up the White House Correspondents Center, if nobody brought up Tyler Ramerson, if nobody brought up anything about Ben Shapiro or these other or Laura Lumer or anybody, if they didn't bring it up. Not only would the American not complain You could not bring anything up. And they wouldn't say, hey, don't you think it's about time that you maybe report something? They won't say anything. It's incredible. I've never seen anything. This is the biggest problem that we have. It's this in curiosity. Let's go to somebody by the name of Larry. Larry calls from Tampa, my home town. You're on another side of midnight with a lion. Hi, Roger. Uh uh R uh I have a theory uh that I'd like to run by you, which we're going to be felling in murder rule, having been a prosecutor, you you're well familiar with it. Oh whereby uh you need not any intent to uh be charged. with a murderer if you're involved in a felony. Correct. And a death occurs during the right, during the commission of a felony, right. Yes, sir. And what would that apply to in this case? Well what I'm thinking this this is this is a little bit off your topic, but With regard to the um Pierre administration. Whereby you had uh fellow you had a conspiracy to engage in allowing an invasion, a mass invasion And uh proven to be uh from other you know, was out of uh let out of jails and all those kind of dangerous people. And uh so I I would suggest that that there was a conspiracy To um to to evade immigration laws. Okay, let me stop you right there, because you gave up let me you said about five different things. What the felony murder rule has to do with this, I'm not sure. But here's my first question. Okay. I'm the judge. You're the prosecutor. I say to you, Counselor, prosecutor? What is the first piece of evidence that you have? That there was a conspiracy. To illegally not to Because you do know that. You can Um Drop Uh any of the border restrictions, you can let the wrong people in. You could do it out of negligence. It's not a crime. It's just bad it can be done bad policy, bad whatever it is. But what evidence do you have, sir? That there was something that was done Illegally. That this was a conspiracy to deliberately subvert And destroy the sovereignty of this country. What was that, sir? Well, let's uh start with uh Uh Alexander Majorkis. To have a beauty. to keep the people out and He um was under the um He he's he was he he was granted the authority under the auspices of the uh Trump administration. Uh. The uh the Biden administration, right. And uh he was require he showed He he he's a derailic of duty by Let me stop you right there. I agree with you. I think he should be if there's two people who really I'm sorry, Fauci and he need to be And brought to uh to justice. But that's not gonna happen because it never happens to anybody. I am telling you. That when you are allowed to To perform your job. And you do it poorly, you do it horribly, you do it terribly, you you do it negligently. that is not necessarily it doesn't rise to the level of being able to prosecute them. You if we went after people. committed who who were negligent or really nefarious. If we went after Zoran Mamdani and others and we took what he did, he's a mayor of New York, of course. And we took what he did not as examples of negligence, but just a criminal type of conspiracy. We'd be prosecuting Everybody. And clear. Doesn't violate. The law. It's n it's it's bad governance. It's stupid. It there were people who believed That President Trump was violating the law. By having ICE agents act. In ways that many people thought were Um Improper or illegal or what have you. that they were uh tantamount to being uh jack booted thugs. When in fact and by the way, I don't even know if ICE is even doing anything anymore. I've no idea. Because of course that story also goes away. The president couldn't have been prosecuted for that either. So while I appreciate what you're saying. And I think it's a most novel approach. Nobody can be charged with felony murder or something. By Yorkis or Fauci for that. You don't think Fauci Fauci and his dereliction, the people who died of adverse Covid reactions? God. He knew that that he might have been if you can prove he was paid off or It's never gonna happen. But Larry, I appreciate your call. It's an excellent point. I want to ask you this question again. And I hope this is okay for overnight, if you don't mind. I hope it doesn't sound like that boring daytime stuff. as that one lovely woman called and suggested. What do we do with stories that just stop? We just Can you imagine if one day your parents said, hey. Where's your brother Timmy? What? Your brother Timmy. Frother Tip? Hey, you're right. I haven't I haven't seen him lately. That would be like this. We just forgot. Or we just say, Oh my God, you know what? Were we talking about that? Yeah. Were we talking about the Epstein, but yeah. Whatever happened. I don't know. What happened? Why we just stopped talking about it. But what about that? I I don't know. What about the world the the White House correspondents that I don't know. Why is that? Is it because we have the attention span of a gnat, or we're being conditioned to react like this? Our number is 800-848-9222. 800-848-9222. More coming up on another side of Midnight. All night long, this is another Side of Midnight with Lionel. This is another Side of Midnight with Lionel. Now to the banana. Studios here's Lionel. Already lined up with you, this is another side of midnight. Do you remember the name? And by the way, I hope this is okay. I hope this is Okay for late at night. I hope this isn't one of those daytime boring stories. Anywho Remember Race Faker Rachel Dolazal? Remember her? She was one of my favourites. She has a shocking new life. Did you know that? Ten years ago, Rachel Dolazal. Was the first Oh, was this woman that everybody I mean, I loved that, you loved everybody mocked her and laughed at her. But she was the most mocked woman in America. She was this pale Kinda blonde haired sort of white girl from Montana. who literally reinvented herself as a black as a black civil rights warrior. And she got caught. Remember that one? When the reality or the truth was finally exposed. She lost her career. and reputation overnight. Now The forty eight year old woman. has legally changed her name to You ready for this? Nigerian inspired, hang on. Un Keki Diablo. N K E C H I I don't know how to pronounce this. I say enrayed. Dialo. Remember I'm gonna do Dialo? Anyway, this is in Kekeki. Dialogue And she lives in a three hundred thousand dollar spacious home in Tucson. Where she raises her youngest of three sons. Guess what she's doing? To make ends meet. Yes, yes what she's doing. That's right. She makes and sells art, but her primary source of income comes from W Only Fans. And she also says she is training To be a sex coach. Now, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, may I ask you a question? And please, this is a family show for the love of God, even though we are over, you know, this is late at night. What exactly is a sex coach? What do you do? Like you walk up and down the sidelines like Vince Labardi with a whistle? Come on, let's go. Push it, penetration, let's go, go, go. Offsides. Whooper This was the woman that I was fascinated by. You you have to love the fact of her temerity. Nothing stops her. And everybody now, when apparently they they claim to be making so much money. Here is the question that I have. With all of the porn that is available. Who in the hell? Paying money. And I'm sorry. To see Rachel Dolazal naked. At forty eight years old. Doing what? I mean Again, I'm trying to keep this clean. What Poutramol. What what um uh uh uh benefits, talents D she have that is so so unique. So great, so over the top. That people would spend money To see her ply her wares. And here's the question I've always thought. And you said it even then. And then when I brought it up now, people said, oh, you can't, you can't say that. If a person can claim to be a man when they're a woman, or vice versa. Please tell me why a woman Can I say I'm black? I'm black. Tell me one thing. one thing that race involves that gender doesn't. People say you can't say that because you don't have any black parentage and there's this genetic event Oh really, okay. She's thinking almost like okay, well what about gender? Well, that's different. That's a mindset. As far as I'm concerned, I'm an alleyut. I'm an inuit, I'm an Eskimo. I'm an African American Eskimo. Phenomenal. The third the final hour open, my friends, eight hundred eight four eight nine two Juju. We're talking about a variety, a bevy, a cacophony, a myriad, a mosaic, a pastiche, a myriad of subjects, a gumbo. But I'm warning you. Some of the stuff that we talk about? Maybe some of the stuff that people might talk about. You ready for this? During the day. I know, I know. Perish the thought. Final hour coming up. Stay tuned. It's another side of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Venarin McGurk Studios. Here's Lionel. We're ready to line up with you, this is the final hour. Of this thing of ours on another side of Midnight again. Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy mother's day to all of our mothers out there. And also Remember too, mothers are adopted, they're natural. And also there are people I have I feel I always feel some people who who cannot have Uh uh uh children. And or who maybe by virtue of some kind of Problem. um we're not able to. In any event I always always think of them and I And I'm very, very um mindful of that. But in any event, happy happy happy. Uh Mother's Day. Did you see this one? Hantavirus. If you can't see what's happening, this is the New York Post. I like the way they write. They're great writers. It's very, very good. The Hentavira And I'm I'm I'm reading this, by the way. This is a story. Just don't want to scare you now. There's a I want to read this to you so I don't miss anything. Yeah, some of our more Crotchety callers might take a little offense at this, but in any event. Want you to know. Don't want you to be shocked or anything like that. But the hantavirus Frick. H V. Hindias. This is it. Hantivirus ridden. And then it says Hantavirus stricken. Two completely different ways of saying this. Anchored in Spain Sunday morning after the outbreak on the ship. Left three travellers dead. sparked global concern over a possible wider spread of the rodent born illness. Can somebody please tell me? Maybe you can do this, maybe you know more about this than I do, but How is it that this is being spread Why are there all these rodent This rodent spread viruses. on a ship. For example. Let's say we have a ship. And it's clean. Everybody's off. Everybody's, you know, um Doing their thing. And then, lo and behold, a a after it's cleaned. picks up new people, and the virus is back. So was it there the whole time? Did a new hantavirus person enter? Where uh with it? More rats? I'm reading the plagued Dutch cruise ship reached Tenerife. The Canary Islands largest island, with more than one hundred and forty passengers and crew expected to undergo health screenings to check for symptoms before disembarking. The passengers who will be required to leave their belongings on the ship. will then be ferried ashore in small boats in groups of five or ten. Fears among local fears. Have surged in recent days ahead of the doom ship's arrival. Let me get let me get Down to brush tax. Do you see what I see? Now I've never been one of these people. Who had suggested. That everything about Uh coronavirus and H A V and all this stuff. was manufactured, that it was fake, or that there was no such thing. I never said that. Never for a moment. There were people who actually died from it. Sometimes because of comorbidity, sometimes especially at first doing that really that first s really serious You know, um blast, so to speak. It so I've never been one of those folks. And there are people I know They they take their their incredulity as to the following part, which I'm going to address, and they spread it. Here's the next question. You do know that was blown completely out of proportion. Absolutely positively. Blown out of proportion. And the local cable news and local TV loved it. Because people were watching watching it was great Because when people start to watch When numbers go up. When metrics go up, you know it's it's only natural. You double down on it. I remember one time there was a thing we watched they said at the Javit Center. That there's ambulances. I'm telling you, my wife and I Well let's walk down 'cause it's not too far from us. We walked down, there was no there was nothing. I'm thinking where where where are the ambulances? The best one I heard was that there was a hospital. that said they had trailers, like tractor trailer, but refrigerated trailers to hold all of the dead bodies. There were none. There were none. There were there were no trailers. Now that there were no dead bodies, there were no trailers. I'm thinking, what what's going on here? And it made me realize, oh Oh, I see. I see how this thing works. And but it's also great too is it made people crazy. So let me ask you, do you believe Do you suspect Do you know? that they're trying to bring this out again. And more importantly, and this is the most difficult point about this. Do you believe That there are people Who love this. Do you believe there are people who felt alive during the entire COVID uh moment. Do you do you remember Seven o'clock at night. I used to open the windows and hear people with pots and pans and trumpets. Plotting I guess for the first responders or something. Do you remember that? Do you remember that? I do. It was incredible. Absolutely incredible. And people loved it. The fear. Do you remember when people were calling up three one one and complaining? and ratting out neighbors who might have been too close next to the fire pit. Do you remember walking and seeing those stickers on the ground s six feet away? Do you remember those plastic shields in front of the uh check out that really did nothing. You would like Put your head around it because you couldn't hear. And the masks and the double masks and the N ninety fives and the oh What Telling you There were people who came alive. I remember at C V S they sold this gold key. It looked like it looked almost like a divot cleaner. And you clean your divot or clean your f golf shoes or whatever it was. And I thought to myself, there are people who love this. There are people who love this and they see so what happens now is People are already talking about the hanter virus. And I'm telling you two reasons. Number one. The news media. These folks really need something very, very drastic. to to help their their uh evil way, so to speak. And also They Love to be afraid. And that's what's happening here. You see, the thing about it is that people love to be afraid. It gives their life meaning. I'm not I'm not kidding you. I told you I go to this little uh Card shop. In Jersey, and these two nice ladies. One lady always has a mask, no matter what. She has a mask. And nothing. Nothing gets in the way of our fear. So you know and I know. And also If they ask you, I'm asking you a question, if they say to you, listen. We're gonna be re we're gonna have operation warp speed two. We have a brand new vaccine, brand new one that says uh this will this will prevent you from getting hantavirus. You know what you will do, won't you? You know what you will do, won't you? Now I'm not say I'm not anti-vax in the least. Anti vax means You're against vaccines in total. Total. Or you don't think they work, or you don't think they whatever. I'm not saying that. Never said that. Never said it for a moment. Never said it for a moment. But sometimes I do think that there are certain vaccines in certain circumstances that could be a little bit more Oh, what's the word? Investigated. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two Richard in Washington State. You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Hi Lionel uh um Man, I got a pen about the Covid panic. It you know, in retrospect we can see It I believe it was a pressure test. On American society. What does that mean, too? Uh manipulated. Businesses were destroyed. Jobs were lost. And you know see? Do you think If they tried to uh ring that bell again. You think people would react the same? I don't know. Did you hear anything I just said, Richard? Did you hear anything May maybe you did, maybe you came in late. I said I addressed all of this. For two reasons. Number one, it was it was it it was it was kind of like a beta test, but people love this. The media the media are gonna push this more than anything else because it helps them drastically. Let me ask you something. When you say it was a pressure. Are you s you're not suggesting it was just manufactured that that there was no such thing as Covet, are you? Or maybe you are. Is that what you're saying? No, no, I agree it existed, but it was oh like you said, overblown. Oh, so you did hear what I said. Okay. And uh you know, what happens when a real Catastrophic pandemic happened, a real one. What about this? When you had people Doctors, the great Marty McCarry and others, and Dr. Malone and other folks who were s very serious. Who said we are Ivermectin hydroxychloric when people's lives were saved. Joe Rogan had to Issue there's kind of um Milktop apology apologia for something I don't know what the hell it was. But do you do you D did you you you had people shut down who merely said, in my opinion, this works fine. You had doctors, remember all the people on respirators? Actors who went along with this? People who never spoke right again, people whose f th whose throats and whose we were scarred and w Listen, I'm not saying it was completely without uh necessity. But I can't believe how the medical profession just rolled over. So my question to you is that And Richard, I thank you for your call, but Richard brings up a very good point. Is what I'm doing. When you look at what's happening. Remember this is this is mob and crowd mentality. This is crowd thinking. This is crowd shot. I remember there were people that I knew who all of a sudden It's like people who got tattoos. When I I I don't know when tattoos started like this, but people whose arms are completely covered in tattoos, legs, calves Sleeps. I don't know what it was. But then opened my eyes like you can't believe because I realized my God people will just they'll do anything to be a part or d or to to feel a part of something. I know there were people who all of a sudden on their Facebook were saying, Stay home. They they they love telling you about I got my new booster, I got my second booster, I got my third booster, I got my fourth booster. They loved it. They couldn't they they had a remember this empire that was a an app on your phone. Do you remember contact tracing? Do remember if you if your iPhone Picked up. that it was in contact with somebody who had or in some way tested positive for COVID. It would let you know. And it would also report elsewhere that you came into contact. This was a beta test. Not That it was created. They wanted to see how will people react. How far will they go? What will be the role of doctors? How fast can we set up Uh You know, shot sites and in fact taught us everywhere. Taught us everything about it. And I'm telling you. If you don't see What is happening? If you don't see what's happening right now. And how we're getting into that kind of mindset again this time regarding Hantivirus, then you didn't learn a thing. Our number's eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. And also don't forget a story coming up. You thought all that trans athlete stuff was over? Like I told you before. Not even close. This is Lionel with you. On another side of midnight. It's another side of midnight with Lionel. This is another Sign of Midnight with Lionel now to the banana. Dirk Studios here's Lionel. Line it with you. Sounds like Tower of Power. 800-848-9222. Happy Mother's Day to our mothers out there. You mothers. Uh we're talking about uh again this story which now remember Remember this. Don't expect anybody on game. on cable news to tell you, will this be hyped? Will we be doing the same thing we normally do? I'm telling you. It's once they get onto something. Remember the rat? that supposedly pulled the piece of pizza down the subway step. Turns out it was bogus. Everybody viral. Everybody. Every news team. Everybody said, oh well Dave. Here's a story the world is talking about there's a r an industrious rat in New York and they they they did it because they had to do it. Because the reason why is because they're scared. They're figuring we we're not gonna We're not we're not gonna teach people anything, we might as well do something that people find Ridiculously interesting. Let's go to Lance. Lance in New Jersey, Lance, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Hey a gracious good evening. Uh yes, you are the tuning fork of truth, my friend. Uh I wanted to ask you I wanted to ask you Whether or not you ever came across the article Well the event two oh one, which occurred back in October nineteenth Uh Team uh well two thousand eighteen. What's the uh Combination of the John Hopkins Center. Oh absolutely. Absolutely. It was a it was it was a tabletop It was a dry run. Absolutely. Now here's my thing. I've always kept that on my iPhone and I've sent it to some people. And they said you have the aluminum foil. So tonight I figured I'd wear a ran wrap so it's clear so I could con convey this to you. And I'm trying to figure out. How come nobody understands the art of critical thinking and reading and comprehension anymore? Nor How come they still allow sexual predators to be hired as teachers? Well a sort of volition for you, Lionel. I don't know. I also don't know I don't know why we're still it's called event Two on one And all you have to do, my friends, you can just look at it's online. Just like a vent at two oh one. Uh, it's it's from the Johns Hopkins Center for health security this was a pandemic Table top exercise. Absolutely. And this came out in The exact year it's all there. Mr. W year is it? Don't forget Bill and Melinda Gates sponsored it. And he was the big guy that was gonna solve uh, you know, the mosquito netting and all this stuff. But I'm telling you. I don't know. I I don't I think there is a mutated octopus that's living within the sewers Of every big city. knows how to reverberate panic. And like scare tactics, 'cause once you scare somebody, they they have no choice. They forget about f uh fight and flight. They're just f filled with frozen with fear. Remember we remember also something which is very important. People have to read this. They talk about Uh, event two oh one was a three and a half hour Pandemic tabletop exercise. That simulated a series of dramatic Scenario based facilitated discussions. Confronting difficult true to life dilemmas. Associated with response to a hypothetical But scientifically plausible pandemic. And it went through this list. It just so happened. You know there is a there's something that People don't know. Well maybe they do know. Did you know, my friend, that on nine eleven On nine eleven there were On that date and time about Fifteen or so forty, thirty I don't even know the number. Drills. There were um hijacking drills. On the day of 911. So the moral of the story is this. If you're gonna pull something off. Best time to pull it off. is when you have drills or To make sure the drills coincide with What you're doing. Now when you tell people this, they think you're out of your mind. You're crazy. What they know. Bill and Melinda Gage and other people. May maybe not Melinda anymore. And by the way, Lance, thank you for your call. They know. Whether they're CfR, whether they're Bilderberg, whether they're whatever the group is, they know That if they do this exactly at the same time. You're not going to say Anything. Because you'll never read this. You'll never know about this. Nobody will tell you this. Where do you find out about this stuff? You listen to us? You listen to other people and you listen to folks who are from let's say news bases who are not necessarily your first The first people you would ever think of. Danny in Westchester, Danny. You're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Scaring the heck out of me, Lino, but I'm loving it. First of all, ли shier Jean Hackman's wife died from the rodent dropping bacteria. That's correct. And that's uh and also because you're a legal mind. It's also interesting, like Because the hairs could fight and debate who died first and where the money would go because They claim she died first, so that protected Jean Hackman's hairs because it was the other way around, her family could have gotten the money. So who knows that's the thing. There's a simultaneous death clause where you go through each scenario. Uh, and then you because if you can't determine who died first and that sort of thing. So the simultaneous clause is normally injected in there. But When I bring this up. Danny. And I talk about this, Danny. Don't you think Most people would normally be propelled into saying, I've got to learn more about this. Do you mean to tell me that they knew everything? It's they knew ever it's like they knew it was coming. Like they knew it was coming and they were ready to go, and they made sure. Let me ask you this. Do you think We will ever come, there will ever be a time when our country shows at least a passing interest. in critical news stories. Do you think that'll ever happen? I know he's held like a broken record. But do you think we will ever say, wow. People are calling up the phones. The Congress is they're flooding the switchboards with listen to me, telegrams or saying What do you know about this? You think you think that's possible? Well, the American are trendy people, but still I'm more fascinated by people in the media, could be anybody, who uh everybody protected Communist China. They sent it here. They had that virus going wild in China in October, November, December of two thousand nineteen. They were remember they were locking people in their houses, but people who were sick or had a fever they let 'em get on planes and fly to Europe, Australia, and the United States. They basically wanted to destroy the Trump presidency. They accomplished if Well go ahead, I I'll finish with that. No no no. No, no, Danny, I th listen, I thank you for your call. Remember when President Trump called it The woo flu. Remember that? Remember they called it China. He we used to say China. He called it flat on they called him racist. Let me let me Let me just Step back from him with you. And people may not like this. Because it makes people scared. Or as you've seen Hell's Kitchen are scared. There's um If I'm going to run the show. And people are trying their best to destroy countries around the world. They seem to be trying to do it the old fashioned way. with bombs and conventional weapons and that sort of thing. But if I really wanted to go after somebody. Think about what we're gonna be doing. First, weather modification. Weather modification, geoengineering, don't ever call it Chem trails. Weather modification, geoengineering. That's the first thing. Droughts, I can destroy your agriculture. I can destroy destroy crops, food sources with a drought, or with flooding, depending upon what I want. That's number one. Number two. If I know there was a particular sensitive tectonic plate configuration in, let's say, the Pacific. I'm able to go. And for and apply through a directed energy weapons through some kind of Tesla wave focus. or foci, if I hit a particular tectonic plane configuration and I can trigger an earthquake out there in the ocean. That's a tsunami. I can wipe out. I can wipe out. Huge swaths of of your coastal of your land. And then when you're just bereft and totally on the balls of your arse. I then come along and say, Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss. By the way, we can help you rebuild. So long as we own What it is at the long run. And the next thing is of course Bye oh Bioweaponry. Um Bacteria, viruses Nerve gas, that sort of thing. Perfect. Next, of course, EMP. knock out power gridge. Remember, I'm not dropping any bombs. I'm not dropping any bombs at all. Nothing. I'm not sending out the Gerald Ford or Fighter uh Escort batt No I don't need any of that stuff. This is brand new. They are so far ahead. But the problem that I have, maybe you could help me. And I know this may sound like something you want to talk about during the day. We have to re jigger, reconnect, refocus, re We say this modulate reconnect. Our Our our curiosity. I know we have it in many respects. I know I I know we we we can do this, but we don't really seem to want to know too, too much about this. It's it's the absolute Uh blows my mind. Number 800, 848-9222. Let's go to Mitchell. Mitchell, I believe you're on another side of Midnight with lineup. Michelle. I'm sorry. That's you know what? I was thinking But there was an E missing, I thought, is this Mitchell spelled incorrectly or Michelle spelled it correctly? In any event, Michelle, welcome. M I C H No I know how to spell my shell. Oh, ye T H K Y O U. What was that? Nothing. Go ahead, please. Oh no. Well, I just wanna say that I've been listening to all these radio programs that have All these wonderful Mothers Day things. And some people are saying that they have bad experiences with mothers, but I do have to say that I probably had the mess The most wonderful mother. Mm-hmm. Taj just Munsei shout out. Is she is sh I I take it she's no longer with us? Is that correct? Correct. Okay. What made her so special in your mind, in your memory, in your recollection? She's the only person in this world that will love me as much as she did. I think that's also I I think m it's and and you're you're you're of course correct. I think that's one of the definitions, obviously, of a mother. Uh You don't think so? Do you have a radio on in the uh background? I do have background noise. But um You know what? I think uh Maybe I don't want to be on here. So Okay, Michelle. Thank you so much. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. That was riveting. That was that was It was fascinating. Uh and and I'm sure she's absolutely correct. And of course now. I wanted to say this before we end this, okay? Because I wanna I'm gonna completely blast and confound You were by the way, we did the first hour we dedicated to the notion of Mother's Day. So that in case you're tuning in now. I already talked about this before. Remember something. If I'm gonna come in and I want to really really control a group of people. I'm gonna control an area. If I wanna control a country, a culture. I wanna go after a few things and one of things I wanna do is I wanna destroy things, as we talked about yesterday with with project Uh or agenda twenty thirty and Sustainability and that sort of thing. Бо воно звіт. I thought was over. Remember this what was the name? Leah what's the name of that? University of Pennsylvania, this was the male This was the swimmer. This was a man. All of a sudden said I'm a woman. He broke all kinds of records. Leah Thomas or something. I don't know. And we thought We were under the belief that this somehow was fixed. that President Trump and Pam Bundy and the legislature. Everybody would fix this this this ridiculous policy of having men in in drag in effect. Well A trans competitor. At a California girls track meet. Swept the field in multiple events Saturday. While protesters outside demanded biological bails. Be barred from competing against girls. At the CIF Southern Section Division III preliminaries. Held at Yorba Linda High School. I think that's where uh Excuse me. A B Hernandez, a senior from Kurupa Valley Delivered commanding performances in all three jumping events. Against female athletes. Why? Because he's a dude. Hmm. Is Mm. Biological man. And you thought this was taken care of. You thought this was just kind of went away. You thought And I can understand this. You thought well we obviously took care of that. And I don't you you thought this. It made complete sense. It's all over with, right? Of course you did. You thought this is done. You thought we came to our senses. Not on your life. Where these people are, why this means something, I have no idea. Where this kernel, where where the epicenter is of these people, I have no earthly idea. I don't know where they are. I don't know. The people who get up in the morning and they say, You know what? Today I'm gonna make sure that another man, another feller With long hair, maybe a wig. Slips through slips into the competitive angle. This is a part which absolutely Kills me. Because as I told you before and I will say it again. Do not think for a moment. Believe, do not think for a moment, this is going away. And this should be a litmus test of everybody. And I mean everybody because anybody who says, Yes, I believe that men Should compete against women. You don't want that person to be in your in your orbit whatsoever. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. Let's go to Mike in South Carolina. Mike, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Good morning, Lionel. Always a good show. And you know, I love when you say when I first started listening to you, I'm from Florida, Florida. Yes, right. Pampa. Um Well, my birthday's always around Mother's Day. I'm gonna be uh Another candle on the cake tomorrow, seventy two. Happy birthday, sir. Happy birthday. Thank you. You you're a couple of years in the rear view mirror, I know. Um Indeed. Indeed. I mention it on on the radio. Every time I watch Everybody Loves Raymond, I laugh my ass off. Limbury is a real town and and that's where Mom was from. She was the youngest of ten. Uh she passed away uh almost almost four years ago, ninety. So uh oh yeah. A knowledge Mother's Day people. Because we only go around once and I miss her every day. Every day. You know. And you know that though the the the thing is is that it's one of those stories where No matter how much we say it. We know in our heart of hearts, we know that look they can't live for ever. They can't be um I mean they're you know, we don't want our we don't don't want our parents merely to be breathing. We want them to be healthy and in good, you know, in good In in good uh uh Fet hole as they say, you know, in fighting trim. You're right about that. And no matter how many times we heard here this at the time. We don't seem to understand it. But see, this is what we just do. It's it's why everything everything is think about this. You're you're gonna be seventy two. Where did your life go? In the in the blink of an eye at Yeah. I have I have a son and daughter, they're on their own, they're doing well. And in the blink of an eye, uh I I I get I get, you know. correspondence from friends uh show me pictures of their grandkids and in the blink of an eye it's like You know, WTF. It was uh you know. Yeah. Uh But that's a perception most people have. And that's just that's just That goes to show you, have you ever been driving? On a long stretch and all of a sudden you say, Oh my God, I've been driving. Oh my God. You just you say, Wait, wait, you you just like like wake up. You're not asleep. But you all of us it's called perception without awareness. And you w you were driving the whole time, but because nothing new was happening, you just you you're it was like almost like like your your screen went to sleep or something. But you're you're still functioning, you're still Um you know, driving. That's kind of what life is. You can't think about every second, or else you'd go crazy. The day would never end. There's gotta be a balance of this. And then one day when you stop and think about it, you say, Wow, where has the time gone? People don't say that in the first grade. Without a doubt, um Uh my father passed away uh ten years ago. He was eighty eight. He spent fifty two years in supermarkets manager and district manager. And he was pretty much the go to guy in Long Island. For the supermarkets, you know. Um So yeah, life goes by quickly and just acknowledge You know, the good things in life, people. We're out absolutely correct. Mike and again, thank you, my friend, and happy birthday to you, dear buddy boy. Ed in Indiana. Ed, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Well I know y boy, you threw a plethora of information out and I think I'm pretty well versed in a lot of things and What do you want to talk about? No, no, no. It's you, Ed. It's about you. Okay. Well, I was wondering I was okay, first uh Paramount my mind is still unsolved, those drones And they're saying um some sort of Asian uh I'm not gonna denigrate anybody, uh uh weather equipment. That were floating over Canada and then all of a sudden we had fires and that smoke build our eastern uh cities And a c a cl but basically close down like a Like some uh cities over there in the Orient, um Uh that are perpetually closed because of Uh smog and all sorts of uh Do you remember right around Christmas a couple of years ago, I think it was a couple years ago, around Christmas, we had them here in New Jersey. There was this this um these sightings of these rather large Buick size drones. And I think Pam Bondi And yet another one of her promises, oh I'm gonna get to this, I'm gonna get to this. Why the Department of Justice, why the Attorney General's gonna get to this, I have no idea. Trump even said, Yeah, I think I know what's going on and then it just went away. But also had But he followed up. Nobody followed up. Nobody the the the news media Nobody brings it up. They just forgot. Remember, it's three days, Lionel's three day rule. And I thank you, Ed for calling. It's the three day rule. Drives me nuts. Ray's calling in Queens. Ray are on another side of midnight with Lionel. Good morning, Lyle. Um when the Supreme Court ruled That Dr. Renee Richards. Had to be allowed to play In the women's US Open Turn it. Um didn't that indicate that Once a person is accepted as the new gender They have to be treated as such. First, I'm trying to see, did she go before the Supreme Court? Yes. Um Here we go, yes. The most prominent case of Brenn Brenn Br Brene Richards landmark nineteen seventy seven decision from a New York Supreme Court. A lower trial held uh Allowing her to compete in the US Open. I think this is The New York Supreme Court Uh this was uh Renee Richards Uh, the New York Su did New York Supreme Court By the way, that Supreme Court is that's the trial court level in any but rule that the test Because by the way, here we go. Dr. Renee Richards, a transgender woman and ophthalmologist, was denied entry to the nineteen seventy seven US Open because she refused to pass a sex. Chromatin test. New York Supreme Court Justice Alfred Ashone. rule that the test was grossly unfair, discriminatory, and violated her rights under the New York human rights law. So That's Different issue. That's the testing and it's New York law versus federal. But she played In the US open. She was allowed to play. Right, but it was a twenty fifth or something like that. No, I know that, but do you understand what I just told you? The reason for it, they found that making her take this test was found to be discriminatory or whatever. That was the problem. It was in the taking of the test. Not The issue of whether Trans people should be playing. You have to look at what particular narrow issue She was um How how the case was decided. That notwithstanding. What is your take on it? I believe that if a male transitions to a female And has the Surgery complete. That that person is then A female. What do you mean? If we'll if we'll uh Genitalia is removed. Ray? Then I believe the person is a female. Well, you can be a female, you can be an onion ring, you can call somebody whatever you want. For purposes of sports. You do recognize, Ray, that We have laws that prohibit people from taking performance enhancement drugs, correct? It gives them an unfair All right, good. Now. If a person has already been through female So uh puberty. And this woman is a Let's say thirty five, forty year old. Man. who has already been through puberty has the benefits of whatever strength or musculature, physiognomy, whatever you want to call it. If they've already enjoyed that. Their genitals. lopped off doesn't make any difference. They have that strength. They have that power. Just like, for example, if a man were to, God forbid, get into some type of an accident and lose his penis or scrotum or testes or what have you. He's not gonna be disqualified as a male. Just because he doesn't have that. Well, a woman a man who doesn't have though that equipment because of surgery shouldn't be eliminated either. She's still a male. Well I think that's the problem is that the modern transsexual athlete is simply too good as opposed to Doctor Renee Richards, who they knew wasn't gonna win. I think if she had been Head and shoulders. female tennis players. Right. She's one of the she right. She's one of the first She's one of the first Mayo To female players who wasn't great, who wasn't dominating. But that notwithstanding, the issue is. They don't really care how she did. The issue is it's not the physical. um equipment. It's not the hormone treatment. That's not it. It's what she feels like in her head, in her soul. In her heart. That's the issue. So you don't accept that. Agenda can be changed. No, no, what I'm saying is I believe that if a person has a surgery that is done, irrespective, this is a man. This is a man. The person could have, let's say, um a blow to the head. And think he's a woman. a man can f have uh some schizophrenic attack and think he's a woman. A man can Whatever. uh have some kind of dysmorphia to the point where he thinks he's she's a woman or he's a woman. That doesn't change anything. The thing about sports is their ability, the unfair physical ability that a man has compared to a woman. Now that doesn't mean that uh he can't beat Venus Williams or you know, that that's a different story. That's the issue. They're confusing. I don't care if you want to call yourself anything you want, I have no problem with that. None. If you want to call yourself a woman, it doesn't matter. When you're not sure. So you would not be in favor of a transsexual's driver's license being changed from male to female. Oh I that's no problem. I don't care about that because there's nothing inherently discriminatory or there's there's no performance based That's just a classification. If you wanted to change race, if you wanted to change a different picture, if you just wanted to say, as long as this person driving is this person in the you know on the license you can change your name. Women change their names after they get married. Say whatever you want. I don't care. As long as this person Identifying as an onion ring. Is the person in this picture and by the way, thank you for your call. That's fine with me. No problem. Only talking about Performance in terms of of sport. That's when it comes into play. My number's eight hundred eighty four eight nine two two two two two two two two. This is another side of midnight with Lionel. All night long, this is another Side of Midnight with Lionel. It's another side of midnight. This is another Sign of Midnight with Lionel now to the vanilla. Studios here's Lionel. What this Chicago One, I'm a man. Listen to Peter Sotera Playback. This is the first double. This isn't the Terry Cat on the... Guitar. Claves. In the nineteen seventies Play this little bit more, Bill. In the 1970s, in the Catholic Church, maybe you remember this, we had this thing called the folk mass. And folk mask for some reason was this introduction of guitars and Less, you know, organ and all this kind of stuff. So we had this nun who passed out all of this. These claves, maracas, cowbell, tamarine. We sound like the worst rhythm band anybody's ever heard. Nobody could make out what the song was. Anyway. Anyway, that was from Chicago for. That was a from Chicago one. Chicago Transit Authority before the the the Titaned the name. My friends. You know. This is one of those things where I'm thinking to myself, Why are we even discussing this? Well The air, of course. But If you would have told me That we would have lived in a time. Where people could actually transmogrify their gender. I thought we were done with this. I thought foolishly that either Trump had taken care of this or legislation had passed or something, not at all. If you had told me that one day we were gonna be discussing whether there was actually something that is remotely fair. Or remotely, what's the word? Rational. But having somebody Pete. Who is physically Stronger for the most part. can't take performance enhancing drugs can take synthetic testosterone. PEDs, but can be allowed can be used that natural PED, which nature provided. It makes Casmically no sense. And one of the things if you had to ask me, why do you think this is? bad guys, the globalists, the New World Order folks, whoever these people are. They want to do everything in their power to make you not sure what reality is. They really do. They want to make you sure. They wanna make you confused. Disconnected, unsure, unaware, un Just un how do I say this? You're you're just it it's it's one of those things which just blows my mind. So in any event, I thank you all so much for being with us. Please make sure you celebrate your mother on this day. And I'm so gonna I I I hope that you do have her with you. Remember, you only get one of those. So Mr. Lee and Jackson thank you so much for storing the helm and thank you so much for being a part of this, my dear friends. We will be back next weekend. Thank you so much for being with us. By the way, you can follow me at Lionel.news. And in the meantime, remember the monkey's dead. The shows over sue you. 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