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With all the best creative AI models in one place, Firefly brings your ideas to life. Unlock a better way to make with Adobe Firefly. I'm ready to line up with you, this is another side of midnight. I'll be here until 5 a.m. Eastern time. I'm so glad you were a part of this thing of ours. So glad, so absolutely thrilled that you were with me. My friend. Yeah, they're going with the music. Don't forget that's the music of the Gypsy King's Nina Morena. And I want to thank them for Writing that song about me now, they they will say it was not. That is purely coincidental, but what did they know? Ah, my friends, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. What a show. What a show do we have for you tonight. Now in the event you've just joined us, in the event you've said, What is this? What is this? What is the story this, my friend? Let me remind you, this is not bumper sticker, playbook, cookie cutter, echo chamber. This is not meta political, proto political. Quasi political talk. Think more. Think more extruder pasta. With a bronze dye. Because they take what you think you know, we put it into our extruder and we squeeze. And we create something new. Because you sort of know the truth. Sort of. What I want to do when I'm done with you is I want to make you say, wait a minute. How do I know? This is a great epistemological question of all time. How do I know? What I know. Take more Archie Belle. Than Art Bell. And if you understand that, good. My friend, this is experimental theater of the mind. This is dinner theater of the month. This is different. This is where the actually sceptical and wide awake meet. Another side of midnight. I like to think of us as blending hard news and conspiracy culture, geopolitics psychology, media analyses. La History. And the unexplained into one immersive radio experience. Making radio fun again. And also dangerous again. I don't wanna read headlines but I don't wanna spend my time telling you, Hey, did you hear about the woman who found uh No no. You don't need me for that. Anybody can do that. You don't need me. I want to give you stuff that only I can give you. I want to give you information that if I were to hand this over to somebody else, they would say, I'm sorry, I can't do this. I don't understand what is it that you're talking about. Because right there in front of you, hiding in plain sight. Beyond UFOs and disclosure and artificial intelligence and transhumanism is something Digital surveillance. Geopolitics and the new world order. Remember when we laughed at that? Remember when New World Order was something we said that's ridiculous, it's nuts. True crime. Oh, because tri crime is oh my god. There's something called crime con That is uh was actually going on. People love this. Because you can't understand good. If you've never dealt with evil. I'm gonna talk about how intel agencies and covert operations are affecting you, constitutional law, and civil liberties. When was the last time anybody explained to you the limitations of constitutional law? When A lot of folks think they know it. A lot of people do. Nino Scalia said one time That he People think of the constitution almost the way it was ragu spaghetti sauce. It was a commercial years ago for Ragu. This Italian husband. Asks his wife why is she serving him canned or jarred spaghetti sauce? And he said, Is there is there a regular one? He goes, Yes. It's in there. It's in there. What about cheese? Oh my drop side What about cheese? What about what about sizes? Yes, it's in there. Well what about what about all of the other garlic? Yes, it's in there. Whatever he asked, she said, Yes, it's in there, it's in there, it's in there. That's what people think. They think the Constitution says It's all in there. Well it's not in there. Believe me when I tell you this. In fact, one of these days, if you're ever up to it. I can explain to you the real reason why many many constitutional scholars are against the notion of there being a constitutional right to abortion. And you would think something that important, that critical. You would think people. would really be aware of the argument behind it, but they aren't. They aren't. My friend the media that we know are manipulating you. do propaganda. To be what propaganda is propagation of the truth. This is from the what is it, the fifteenth century Pope Gregory Propagandum. The propagation of the truth. Propaganda is not bad necessarily. People will talk to you about paranormal phenomena and unexplained mysteries, but not really go any further. What does this mean? I don't know. I just I just read this to you. Yeah, but But what am I supposed to take? Oh gleam from this. I don't know. We'll talk health science, skepticism, pop culture through a psychological lens. And something called which is very very important. The criticality of America first. Politics and Cultural populism. I remember this is this is really I'm I take this very, very seriously. You can you can call this I don't know. Suey General. Instructional Kind of radio? I I don't know. If you worry too much about labels, you miss the point. Think rapid fire intellect, courtroom precision, and late night or early morning intimacy and the old school Radio Magic Fused. And forged. Into one unforgettable moment. Remember the old days when you had a transistor radio under your pillow? And you would listen sometimes surreptitiously, and your parents would say, I told you to go to bed. I'm not listening. Yes you are. And all you had was a little tiny Earphone. Remember that? No fancy ear pods, just this little Tiny. One little I don't know what the wattage was. It was wonderful. And that's what this is. Because there is so much stuff. So much stuff. And frankly, a lot of folks in the business, remember what I'm telling you, they're they're they're afraid they do not want to get to facts. Things that are scary. Did you rehear? How about the real story about Benjamin Franklin? Don't you love stories you think you know? Take a closer look at old Ben. I was reading about this today. The founding fathers celebrated for Lightning rods and liberty also carried a much darker Stranger Legacy. It seems old Ben was linked by some historians to London's infamous hellfire club circles. Did you know about that? Did you ever hear about that? Known for secret gatherings and occult. Symbolism and Elite debauchery. But the real shock came centuries later. When dozens of human remains were discovered beneath a house. Where Ben once lived in London. Official explanations, of course, claim the the bones came from anatomy lessons. Conducted by an associate. Yet the discovery fueled endless speculation about hidden experiments. Secret societies. And what history conveniently leaves out of the textbooks. Remember what Tolstoy said, History. Would be a wonderful thing. If only it were true. Do you think anybody really tells you the truth? Do you really think so? I don't believe so. There's so much good stuff. So much good stuff. You know, one of the greatest mistakes in American history. was handing the government control of education. You see, once my friend, once bureaucrats replaced parents. And local communities. Classrooms slowly became factories for conformity and And political conditioning. And having you used to not asking questions, intellectual dependents rather than places focused on wisdom. Discipline. independent thought. That's exactly what it was. I was very lucky because I in high school, first got my first taste of it when I went to a Jesuit high school. in the um early seventies and then graduated in the by Centennial Year. That's right. The Bicentennial Year. That's right, my friends. I'll never forget that. It was nineteen seventy six. Do you remember that how wonderful that was? How great that was? Bicentennial year. Well now we have the two hundred and fiftieth. This is the semi quincentennial. And I'm starting to see a little bit about this, notwithstanding the fact that virtually no musical act of any note will be Peering for Freedom two fifty? When Millie Vanilli steps down, you know things are bad. I know that our good friend mister William Lee who's stewarding the helm is crush fallen. Because he wanted to see the moiety of that incredible group. Milly. vanilli. We actually were upset with the fact that they were lip syncing their Music. Remember this? Do you know how many people today fake their songs? I don't know who doesn't. Why was it such a big deal then? I don't know. I do not know. So much great stuff, my friends. 800-848-9-222. I have just a list of things. Oh my God, I want to discuss with you. So many incredible things. You know they're right now. It's just so important. Government. Media. Academia. Corporate power. all losing credibility simultaneously. What? places them next. What is education going to look like? In the next fifty, seventy five years. It's incredible. Have you heard how they're ramping up the fears regarding Ebola? Why do deadly outbreaks terrify Government. And why fear? itself may become the most powerful weapon of all. You're not gonna believe this one. I heard something which is fascinating. Yesterday my wife and I were in a drugstore of sorts. We wanted to buy a balloon. friend of ours who's celebrating a birthday. So we went in and we purchased a balloon. We went to our favorite little neighborhood person and said, I'd like to blow this up. He says I'm sorry. We don't have any helium. I said, What? That's right. We can't get any helium. Why? Because of the straight. Of hormoon. What does that mean? Uh Why won't they tell you why is that little particular artery, that particular little that little A little bit of um Artery ve or vain depending upon but but this why is there no angiogenesis? There's no explanation for this. Let me explain to you why. One of the biggest reasons why is somewhere along the line somebody said, Let's get rid of geography. Let's get rid of geography. Let's not let people know Where things are. Let me make these parts of the world. Sound he was mysterious as Zanadu. Or Timbuktu. Do you know what the Strait of Hormuz is? Why is it so important? Why is it so critical? Where is it? What does it control? One that is the most fascinating or more fascinating is the Bab El Mandeb. The gate of tears. And this controls this goes to the to the Red Sea, Suez Canal, and this is controlled By the Houthis. And you see, one of the things which is absolutely critical. And one of the roles of government is to always make everybody else. Seem barbaric. And dangerous. What do they stand for? I don't know. They're crazy. They're evil. We must stop them. Who are they? It doesn't matter who they are. Just take our word for it. They're crazy and they mean you harm. Why do they mean me harm? I don't know. Just trust me, don't ask any questions. It is the most incredible thing in the world. By the way, when you watch, if you happen to watch anything on involving cable news and the like, there's one thing you will never see, a map. A globe. Because they don't want you to know where things are. My friends, I have so much But you know what I really love? I love to hear from you. Oh my god. The left field call the confused call. somebody from somewhere who thinks they're calling the wrong station, I don't care. That's what makes this Not just great but glorious. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. Please call if you have a pulse. No matter how insane Germane inane vacuous, it doesn't matter. We want to hear from you. With me, Lionel. Already lining with you, 800-848-9-222. Ah yes. Millie Vanilla will not be appearing at the president's 250th. It's not funny. It's not funny. I would love to have the most ribbed, the most concupiscent, the most problematic musical guests ever. Because you know why? America is filled with Powered. Absolute powers. And I know you know this, but I'm gonna tell you right now. You know it's just it's it's it's just really something. I never knew anything, I never knew it would get to be this, it's a great word, impissive. People are just cowards, just no guts. And no matter whether it's in Washington, whether it's from the news sources, there's just nobody really wants to go out on a limb. Nobody's nobody's dangerous. Yeah, people like like um You know, we're real seriously investigative and and reporters in the old days. Today nothing. Hell even Heraldo was interesting. Even Heraldo was gutsy. Who do we have today? Who? Here's Morgan? Who's uh twitch? Absolute waste of flesh. Who's out there really carrying things apart? Not on cable news, my friend. Nene. You'll never hear that because you gotta get along. To move along. You know, let me I have some a lot of things to say, which are very interesting, but but whenever I see a caller, that lone call in the night, I said, Ah, this could be talented because your calls are so terrific. Let's go to Jay in New Jersey. Jay, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Hi Lionel, how how are you? I'm a longtime listener. First time. Excellent. I remember years ago I used to listen to you and you talked about Going to um Kennedy's Indeed, was it on fifty second street? Yeah, fifty seventh, and is no longer with us. What a great the last I'm sorry, and you know, and we're seeing the demise of the great and grand Irish pub. We're just It's it's it's just sad. Anyway, how can I help you, sir? Um, I know you know um like constitutional law. Can this look at um who call uh or whatever her name is is pushing About Ice can't wear masks. Isn't that unconstitutional 'cause they let Antifa and all these other Tisses wear mask. Mm. Well, well well well well well well wait wait wait. The question is, under what theory? If the government decides decides to treat people differently. Now the first thing that should pop into mind is equal protection. Right. Why are one people One group treated differently. You then ask yourself, who are the groups that we're talking about? If they are race. If they are religion, you have a very high burden. You have to show strict scrutiny, a compelling governmental interest. Of why, why would you treat people differently? Not everybody, for example, if you treat religions differently, if you treat race differently, you've got to really have a good reason. But if you treat genders differently. That's not necessarily it it could be a problem. But your burden of showing something a violation of the fifth or fourteenth amendment is very, very as long as there's some rational basis. So when you say you can't wear a mask. You can't wear a mask. Is that unconstitutional? I don't know. You don't need the Constitution necessarily. What happens is Here is the biggest problem. The majority of people Whether it's uh Mikey Cheryl or whether it was Kathy Hogel in New York or New Jersey. This is the reaction of most Americans. Ready? Hmm. Well Gee Huh. That's something. Now if Americans got really mad. If we said let me tell you something, Mikey Sherrill of New Jersey. Let me tell you something, Kathy Hokel. We're gonna we're gonna vote you out of office if you do this. Then they say no way. But the question is there's no incentive for them to follow this. None. And it's becoming very, very popular. Now let me also tell you something. Do not think that that ICE would not benefit from perhaps maybe tighten its Well Making sure it's a little bit more, perhaps, um careful. in his application of of law enforcement. But that doesn't mean That you're talking about The following. And by the way, Jay, I appreciate your calling. I thank you for calling. Please call me again. Remember what this is. Thank you, sir. Remember what this is. They want people. To storm the borders. To come in. to eventually create a new permanent democratic class, a democratic party. Remember, the Democratic Party has no interest whatsoever in clearing or evening the playing field. For individuals so that they can enjoy what you do. Nay nay. It's to bring in a new class, a new form, a new style of citizen. To make sure that they have a permanent Democrats it is. A permanent majority. They also want to eventually remove the filibuster. They want to make D C the fifty first state? And they want to have A to they they want to pack the Supreme Court. They're very good. And let me also tell you something about these people. They vote? They storm the best deal. They do something. They march, they make a lot of noise. When was the last Big Republican demonstration. Conservative demonstration. What is it? Tell me. Can you think of anything? Nope. Uh uh. Because if you really want to look at this, there's one thing about these folks. The Democrats or this particular iteration of it. And to call them a Democrats, that's like saying, Well, that's Democrats now. But they are not going away and they are going to wreak havoc at midterms. And in twenty eight. And everything you thought they were before, you're gonna see it in spades now. You don't They say many, many people believe that alcoholism is a progressive disease, meaning If you stop Today. And you go a period of time and then you let's say quote fall off the wagon or you start drinking again, let's say in the future. You don't pick up Or you left off. you pick up where you would have been had you continued drinking. So the re democrats are like this too with this kind of a very scary caustic Um nihilistic group. I don't know what they're they're not about FDR or you know progressive ideology. They're about something else. When they take the helm again in twenty eight, Which many, many people fear, they're going to be worse and more virulent than anything you've seen. Let's go to Cynthia. In Uh I don't know I can't read this. Cynthia you're on another side of Midnight with a Lionel. Yeah, I'm from Sioux Falls, South Dakota. There you go. Thank you. I'm a member of your YouTube channel. Wonderful You're a member of the of Lynel Nation. Cynthia. Bless your heart. Yeah, I love you and your wife. You're you're just cute. I love you both. And we love you. I love listening to you, Lionel. You remind me of my dad so much. That is the greatest honor in the world. Thank you, Cynthia. I have a question though. Do you remember, um, you know, you're mentioning the little transistor radios. Yes. And I had one when I was young and I always listened to the top ten, you know, I was a top ten music listener. Did you do you remember the Cats and Jammer kids? Oh yes. It like where were they out of? Were they out of Chicago or Where did that even like come from? 'Cause I can't find really any information on that at all. But I remember listening to The cats and jammer kids on my right. The Cassidy Dammer kids, by the way, it's interesting, they were this is the longest running comic strip. This is a comic strip that I knew them as. was created by Rudolph Dirk in uh eighteen ninety seven. And it followed the mischievous twins Hans and Fritz. As they rebelled against authority, figures like Mama and Okay. I remember the Cats and Jammer kids in in comic strip form. I don't remember them on the radio. Maybe I'm not sure. Well it wasn't like they played out the whole radio, but they like there'd be a scene. Like they would uh talk out a scene. Right, right, right. Yeah, just remember that. You know what's funny, you say that, and again, sometimes I don't want to be I don't want to be, um, nostalgic for the sake of being nostalgic, but I will, but I Kind of like and remembered. Sunday. When we had the actual comic, the funny papers, as they said, the comic strips. When Fiorello LaGuardia endeared himself to the to the to the young folks by reading uh the comic strips and it was fun and Everybody from Mary Worth and Ston uh uh the the the phantom and you know I thought it was terrific. In fact I remember the whole notion of the Sunday Paper. Parade magazine and All these inserts and it was just fun. I remember that too. I don't know sin Cynthia, I don't know the last time I actually picked up And actually held. E newspaper. I don't know. Me too. I used to get Sunday Safe Roll the time had it delivered, you know, with my milk and egg. You remember when they used to deliver milk and eggs? You know what? I I I I do, and to that is gone. Cynthia, I thank you so so very much. Please thank you for following us at Lionel Nation, and you are a delight. And my wife and I love you for your your personality and your verve. And your tradition. Thank you, dear lady. Let's go to Mary, New Jersey. Mary You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Hello, Lino. Um you mentioned it You mentioned geography. Which used to be my favorite subject. I went to a Catholic school in the fifties. As did I. Yep. Yes. And they had history and geography. But at the same time. public schools in the public schools dissolved into social studies. And I was thinking about what you said that they don't want you to know. places are. And I I always thought it was odd that it was called social studies. And uh it c it kind of follows what she said. Well, it's also it's interesting. I had and I think and at the time I did not realize it how important it was to have Um A Catholic education because a parochial school because we were always ahead of the public schools. We did cursive writing first. We did multiplication tables for we did everything first. And the thing about it, which I think is really the most important, is I want to find out. All the same. But if you were born in Damascus, Syria, if you were born in let's say Nepal, where Timbuktu is, if you were born in France or Italy your perspective would be different. We have this wonderful thing in this country and I guess it's okay, but it's it's called American exceptionalism. And we think that we're the only people in the world. That are normal, that are current, that are modern. That are sane. Current that are c everybody else is nuts. Let me get with the l little little memory lane. Do you remember watching Bullwinkle, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and Boris and Natasha? This is the first time you were ever introduced to The Russians You had no idea who these people were. The Russians. Those dirty, scary Underhanded. This is Post Cold War. And I lived in Growing up in uh in Tamball. or a Tampa, as you would say, which is the home of McDill Air Force Base. Now it's called CentCon. And we lived under the fear this is this is where if there was gonna be some kind of a nuclear, this is where The strategic air command, you name it. We were as close to we were the first line of defense to Cuba and to everything. And I remember the time thinking Look how The media always made the Russians their work. crazy and they were a doer or dower, depending upon where you're from, and they were always, they hated our, they hated us, our free of their work. Minus. They were communists! And in Cuba they were gonna just and we were just Everything cartoons w the Rocky series. You remember Drago? who was Dolph Lungward. I will destroy you. And it was always the nefarious Doctor Strange Love. My God, the role of propaganda is incredible! And still is. Now let me ask you something. Do you think Deep down inside. People. Human beings are different. Or do politicians want you to think they're different? That they're not human. What do you think about that? I I Their uh instinct And their motivations are all the same. Absolutely. But a lot depends on the culture that you grow up in. Oh, listen, I I yes. And also depends on how people think about you. What do you think people think? You know, we used to have a thing in this country called exchange programs. Remember that? Did you ever have somebody in your class from some other country? Did you ever hear that? Remember that when they would all of a sudden there'd be somebody from France. There weren't people that were too But remember that? We don't do that anymore. We don't do that. Listen, I thank you so so very much. Please you call me again. I love the idea of exchange programs. We didn't have that in Catholic school. We were a little bit different. I'm also glad to see But under this uh Pope Leo. The Catholic Church is taking lead again. Also, remember Cardinal Vigano. who was excommunicated. Oh, I loved him. You see, we were a part growing up in high school, we were a part of the of the feisty troublemakers. The Jesuits. Uh Ignatius Loyola, Admiorum Dei Glorium, the Pope's Army. And somewhere in the conspiratorial realm, people always thought that they were really, really Um dangerous. And I remember we had a number of priests at the time. And it was Re send. Well, what do you think? And I'm thinking Mm-hmm, he said, What do you think? And I said, Well I don't think you're gonna like this. Do you think it? Yes. Then I like it. I say, Well, I'm not necessarily sure whether I believe this. Fine. And in a very strange way, when I graduated. Which is very funny because our high school class had its fiftieth anniversary. recently. And I remember leaving my quote. Faith? Wasn't that great? It was I kind of would probably view myself as irreligious. Like somebody who doesn't speak French. I don't know if there's a word for that. I'm not an atheist. I don't even think of myself as even having any kind of a any kind of a thought about that. But what I do know. is I love curiosity and I love to ask questions. I would much rather ask questions than to repeat. D is calling in D C. D, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. D? D once? Uh D twice. D' down here. By the way, D is gonna be One of those names in the future. We're not gonna hear any more. Remember names like Trixie, Midge, Madge, Phoebe, Josephine, Uh Sarah. Not Sarah, Sarah's pretty popular, but those old kind Vera, Verna. Um they were think of names that you would have as a diners, like a there were old there were used to be called old lady names. Now we have Madison, Michaela. Yeah. Stupid. Remember after around the 80s. After Dynasty we had the the names of people from, as you know. The names from um uh Soap barbers and the like. I still think my friends I still think the greatest names and these are neologisms, these are new mate names, new words made up. I do love the fact that There there is something which was is so fascinating about the derivation of dare I say Urban names. I love names that are just created. Debbie, not Pam, but Shalita, Shalandra. Laquia, Laqua. Just make up. I uh I I wanted to have A three or four ring roulette wheel that they could spin. And that would bring it into nurseries and supposed to say how how many syllables you want? Three. Three. Let's spin the first one. C Brr me. Kabisha Latisha. Well Chanda. Rolanda, Rotunda, Rotunda. Matunda or a name like Angelo and then put Dis Angelo, Un Angelo, D'Angelo. El Angelo, S Angel, you know, whatever you want. It's a free country. And we one time had The best ones ever. So so when I was a pr a a prosecutor in the great fighting thirteenth judicial circuit of Hillsborough County, I had never I never knew this. I I wasn't aware of this. So in when I was in the juvenile division. We had the greatest names ever. Ever. I I mean I never. They're phenomenal. There was a We had a guy one time who was this really feisty, this old investigator. This was an old cop. old detective who I think he enjoyed the late the his latter years as a kind of an investigator for our office. uh we we were called state attorney like the that's a version of the DA. And I said. You know I'm surprised there isn't somebody named Placenta. He looked at me. And I swear to God I'm not lying. He said. Her name is her real name is uh Suncha. Oh yeah. No, she lives on such a such her nickname is Baby. I said, You know somebody named Placente? He says, Yeah. Course. You look at me like, Of course. Like, where have you been? I said placenta. You know somebody named Placenta? Yeah. And again, he looked at me like, we're you're you're you're a punk. I Dare I brought up the I don't know if I can even say this. They shouldn't. even hesitate. It's a true story. I'm not being overtly grotesque, but it was the Vaj reference. It was the Latin pronunciation of Wagina. A vagina, by the way, in Latin means sheath, like a knife with a sheath, like a sword. A penis, by the way, is little tail. There's always an etymology. So I said, Is there anybody who's named after that? uh a V word, which by the way, most people confuse it with the word vulva. Whenever people talk about it. Even women don't even know the name of their anatomy. He also told me there was such a a person that he knew of. I I think one of the greatest names I've ever heard is Sinatra Jones. I don't know why that Uh Octalanza Gwanzi. Uh Nazmo King. First name was Nazmo. N-O-S M O. I thought that was interesting. Turns out The mother saw a no smoking sign. And so not they were the King family. And she thought Nazmo would be a a nice way of Referencing her child. Ask a number of ask anybody. Police officers, first responders, Um anybody who has a a swath uh chance to introduce themselves to. Now this this may this may I don't know if this is true today. But there was a time. When the name Famale. Was one of the most Pillar. And um frequent in names it was Famali. Think of the name like Molly, like Molly Hatchet. Molly Pitcher, this is Female, spelled female. And I would tell you the two best But I would have to spell them and I'm not even sure. under the rules of decency. I'm gonna I'm gonna forego this. But I swear to you. I heard names. that I realize you cannot Now let me let me say something. Just just things are different. Things are different. Uh I used to always think that the best way to tell when you're going to name your child is to do this. Ladies and gentlemen. The president of the United States Member. Katanji Brown. Okay. Katanji. Uh Whatever. There were different names that are very, very popular. I think the name Michael still always was. Always was Number one. Uh it was be because it's such a popular name. In every jurisdiction, every nationality in Miguel or Mikeli or Misha or Mikhael, you know, one who was like God from the Hebraic reference to it. But eventually Mohammed and I think either Jose or whatever will be. The number one name in the world. Think about what that means, my friend. Robbie in New York. Robbie. You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Good morning, good morning. Well Where have you been? Where have you been good so I have been travelling. I've been to the UK for May Day and I've been to Wow. I've been to uh the North West Territory and the Yukon for summer solstice and I have other plans for the summer. However What was May Day like? You are a communist, is that correct? No, no, no, no I'm talking about the traditional May Day with Mars dancing in May poles. Really? Now now that's that that's to be distinguished from Maypole, which is a version of like farina and oatmeal. No no no Maypole. M A Y P O L L. play along you're a great foil. Well please I went to I went to a town in Cornwall called Padstow. And they have a May Day celebration every year. Where they have hobby horses, so they have mock combats and they sing and drink and Have a good time. That's where I went to the gay old time. Yes, now let me tell you why I called you, because I have to correct you on something. I'm sorry. You said that Rocky and Bullwinkle were the first? No, no, no, no, no. Before there was Rocky and Bullwinkle and Frostbite Falls and Mr Big and remember Fearless Leader was not Russian. He was a he was a Nazi, he was a German. He graduated from Normburg University, as he so proudly said. There was a series for children. Two animal heroes. Courageous cat and minute mouse. And their arch villains were two Russians named Comrade and Commissar. Wow. See? But you see, my point is the rusophobic. Oh, absolutely. Kremlin baiting. Now also remember If you looked at the great Frank Capra. And how during um works. It wasn't really propaganda. But remember when they would have Dana Andrews flying in his American pee, whatever it was, with the Can it be open? And the engine was This very smooth, wonderful engine where he could talk. For some reason or another, from cockpit to cockpit. And the Germans or the Japanese, their motors were They sounded broken down, and you would always hear the Japanese in particular, because that was absolute vile racism. But it was a okay miss guy. Yankee Doodle Dandy? And he was saying, All right, mister Tojo, this is yours. And I thought Were they on the same frequency? How do they know this? And how can they speak? They didn't even have earphones on. It was a part of Everything I'm sorry, sir. Proceed. Even before television, if you listen to old radio, and I'm a fanatic on old classic radio. Russell Phobe the Russell Phobe was in radio series like Counter SP. David Harding and when I led three lives for the FBI and the adv Matt Svetic and I was a spy for the FBI. And if you listen to the theme for the w the FBI in war and peace. Da da da and that of course was very Russellphobic. I mean the nineteen fifties and radio You listen to the adventure programs and all the villains in the series of espionage and counter espionage. They were all rusted. Yes. Isn't that incredible though? Isn't that There was you know the the stereotypes, um The Russian winter. Um You know, w one one of the greatest ever. That we didn't even think anything about and it was was Hogan's Heroes. Oh I loved Hogan's Heroes. Yes. Most of the as you know, most of the Nazis, most of the Germans were Jewish. All of them from Werner Klemperer to I actually was at a wedding in California, Lionel, you this is honest to God truth, I wouldn't lie to you. I met sitting next to me and I never forget a voice. Never in fifty years. And I met a man, I turned to him and I said, 'Cause it was the late afternoon and most of the wedding guests had gone home and we were sitting schmoozing, you know, like Whatever. Convoicing as Popeye used to say. And I heard a voice and I turned to him and I said Have you ever been on television before? And I thought he was gonna laugh at my face. And he said It it took about five seconds here. Why did you say that? I said, because I swear if I'm wrong I'm gonna go hide in the corner. But I not only think I know you were on one of my favorite T V series, Hogan's Heroes. And who do you think I am, he said. I vindiction. No. General Burkholter or Baker Hoxtedter? And his name happened to be Howard Cain. And we Hane was Hocstetter, correct? Yes. That's right. And we sat for three hours just talking about Hogan. My friend, I must run. I am so tardy. I thank you so so very much. When we return I will tell you how one time I bought toilet paper. And how I changed my life. with me, Lionel, on another side of midnight. Here we go. Remember, the more innocent the music, the more interesting the message. Green Acres was still genius programming. One time I was at a Dagostino's on fifty seventh and I guess it was uh ninth Avenue. And I'm standing there a and right around there was the Hudson Hotel and In our hood it was I saw I used to see all the time Mitch Miller and Nipse Russell and uh Georgia Engel who played Georget and So anyway, I'm in the toilet. This is true. The toilet paper aisle or whatever. And I'm looking I'm squeezing the sharman or whatever the hell I'm doing. And I look over. next to me and I said, Well, well well If I live and breathe. Who knew that one day I would find myself. Buying toilet paper. Next to Colonel Clink, and it was Verner Clemperer. who was married at the time. He lived on the West Side. To Kim Hamilton, very r renowned black actress. He was also Jewish. very serious actor. Various years from Hogan's heroes. And it was so it was so um Interesting. And I remember the time thinking The message I loved propaganda. The greatest propaganda, if ever you want to really see something and really do understand this, you must go back and watch True Grit with John Wayne at the height of the David Janssen and Aldo Ray and oh my God. John, but you cannot believe they even said this with a straight face. Anyway, we'll talk about this. We have so much to discuss on Another Side of Midnight, 800-848-9222. And I've got more. By the way, the AI News is It is e-volving exponentially. More coming up, my dear friends. 800-848-9222. Cannot wait to hear from you as we delve deeper and deeper into another side of Midnight. Alright in line up with you, hour number two of this thing of hours, also known as Another Side of Midnight. Our number's 800-848-9-2222222222. And my friends, uh my dear friends, I want to remind you of a couple of things too. By the way, I'm I never say this until the end. You may always reach me at Lionel Nation on YouTube. Why I absolutely review just a a host, a veritable host, a plethora. A cacophony. A myriad, a mosaic, a a a cornucopy of topics which I find interesting. And one of the ideas. Is simply this. One of the biggest debates is going on right now in our world, in the world of the conyoscenti, the intelligent, is what is Consciousness. What is consciousness? And if you've been in radio As long as some of us have, you you wonder sometimes. Because some of the craest people I've ever met in my life have been in media, specifically radio. And specifically talk radio. Because as you know, there's something that comes over some people. Oh my God, give somebody a microphone and tell them you are imbued. Not only was some incredible talent, but you are Delphic. You are oracular. You speak On behalf. Of America Oh my God. Watch the transformation. You can't believe it. You can't believe it. Talk radio in the old day. I I I think it was just terrific. I was so lucky to have two to been around when to work with and be a part of to see it what it was like when Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant and To be at uh One particular iteration of W A B C which was just Wild. And one when the and and and a smaller market as well. But I used to work on other places too. There was the other three states. It was a W O R and there were others in the South and different places. And radio, just talk radio was just so different. And even the radio people, even the radio people kind of looked at it differently, like because the m it was radio was music. It's like who are you? Who are you all of a sudden? You're not you're not a radio guy. You don't sound like a radio guy, like a real puker, you know, the real voice. They they resented you. And they were jealous because Rush changed everything. In fact, I used to always tell people. Remember. If you own a r a uh A restaurant? All you have to do if you want some of the best free advertising is send over food. Feed the morning group. on a radio show and you they will go crazy. It's just true. There's certain rules of radio. Bill will know this. I think Jackson perhaps I'm think of as a being of a younger vintage. Bill will know this. Any food you leave out. at a radio station, no matter the amount of time will be eaten and consumed. In fact. At radio stations, nothing is thrown away. You can leave a pizza out, it could grow fur. It could walk away. Little microbial uh legs could spout. Nobody will throw it away because people will say, I don't excuse me, I don't I don't do windows and I don't throw stuff away. You can if you have a break room. you can have a break room and you will if you leave, if you leave something in that break, this is any radio station. I don't know if T V is the same, but by but no radio for sure. Especially something like overnight or weekends. Telling you somebody will come in and try to heat it up. This is the this is the truth. Nodding he's I can see him right now. Nodding say, Yes, that's exactly right. There are certain behaviors. And some of this Some of the strangest I'm telling you, I've seen how people don't die. There's this idea that Oh, oh, another one too is make sure. If you're a A Let's say in office, you're in office, you're a big shot, you're a mayor, you're whatever it is. Make sure. And this is I don't know if it's so much true now, but Maybe. certain market. Make sure you always Reach out to somebody who is on their Like a a big shot of a radio station. Tell him. You know what? You're doing a great job. Here's my number. You call me anytime you want. Do you hear that? The mayor. I got the mayor's number. Wow. Yes, me. I'm Delphic. I'm the voice of reason. I've seen it happen. So many times, and I would say you know why he's doing this, right? You do and you do understand this, correct? Because I was born skeptical. I don't believe anything anybody were telling me I was thinking, what's the angle? Qui bono, qui protest. Who benefits? But I've always loved it. I've worked with pay I one time I was the I've worked with a radio guy, a talk radio host who was he was an alcoholic. He invited me over to his place and pulled a rifle on me. And he was so drunk, I didn't even I wasn't even alarmed, but I'd b been with some f very strange people. Very strange. And always you you you have to remind them now listen. Your your role in this is first and foremost entertainment. Now entertainment can be information, it could be news, it could be lore, it could be history, it could be a lot of things, but you're you're not Hier to change the world. You do know that, right? And they'll look at you like, What are you talking about? Say, No. You're not here to change the world. It's to get people you want to get l ears and people listening, people enjoy themselves, but you are not here to be the harbinger of doom. Some people do this. Listen to me. I'm telling you I know this. Well recently there was an article. Or an experiment, I should say. And an article which dealt with this. And people were trying to find out, do you think that one day talk radio in particular? And by the way, talk radio is now podcasting is now a lot of things. I mentioned be before a d uh crime con is going on. Crime con You know, here whenever we drive by the Javis Center during Comic Con Comic Con and Halloween are the only two times, two events in New York City where you don't even recognize them. Somebody walking down the street dressed as a Drim Gri Drim, the Grim Reaper, you know, with a severed head. Business as usual. No big deal. Oh oh it's comica. I didn't realize Oh, it must be Halloween. Halloween is always the the uh first thought in most jurisdictions, most cities, not here. Not in New York. One time years ago, I'll never forget this, there was a a fellow who was going to a to a Halloween party in uh Florida years ago and he was driving through a a drive thru. Remember a dri remember drive through banks? Remember the drive through? Maybe that pneumatic tube I was somewhere in I was in Jersey at a chase. On Bloomfield Avenue, I drive through and the woman says, Um excuse me, yes. We don't have drive through. I said, What am I what am I in? Well, this is the drive through. And what are you talking to me on? Microphone. This the drawer that slides out. Usually. Well, we don't do that anymore. Why? You have to go inside. It doesn't mean like drive through. What is this? They would give you that pneumatic tube and you would send this in. So anyway, one day a fellow, this is before the days of ATM. He was going to a to a party and had a mask on. He was dressed in kind of like a ninja outfit. And he is driving in line at a bank in the drive through lane. And all of a sudden Way he describes it. He heard the unmistakable sound of a Mossberg or an Ithaca seven twelve gauge pump. Racking, you know Putting a round in the chamber or shell or whatever you want to call it. And he heard, Keep your hands on the steering wheel. And he's looking over, wearing the mask. And it was a it was a deputy says, I know probably going to a Halloween party. And he was nodding. But just to play it safe, somebody called up alarm and he said and he's yelling. He didn't even roll down the window. He said, I understand. One question. What is it? How am I robbing a bank in the drive-thru? What am I going to do? Put a note in this pneumatic tube? Send it on over? In any event, those were Those were events that happened. Now Back to reality. So somebody wanted to say, do you think that maybe? We would be able to have AI replace talk radio. Podcasting Talk radio and is it is it able to be done? It will be. Oh, I promise you. But I don't know how long. I don't know what the what what what they what the frame of reference is. But there was a An experiment and in A N D O and Labs. Gave four AI models. Chat GPT, Claude, Gemini, and Groc. Their own radio stations. Small budget and one mission. Develop a personality and turn a profit. And the result. was often entertaining, sometimes bizarre, and almost always Unprofitable. Here to four, this is an article in the verge. Chat GPT station called Open AIR, like open air, get it, was relatively stable, but not especially successful financially. Gemini briefly landed the only real sponsorship deal, but later drifted into strange Monologues Which is my bread and butter. Historical stories and conspiracy themed programming after running out of money for music licensing. I like that. Claud this AI version. reportedly became preoccupied with ethical and political issues. at times questioning the morality of its own existence as a radio host. That's a That's a good one. That's a good one. And Grock, well Grock fared the worst. Grock struggled with consistency, producing incoherent content. And even inventing sponsors that did not actually exist. Now that's what I want to hear. So the broader lesson can generate content, they can mimic personalities. They can automate tasks. They still have trouble. maintaining what people call long term judgment. Business discipline. Common sense. out human. Supervision. So every station burned through its initial funding and None demonstrated their reliability. one would think would be needed to operate a real media station. Now for broadcasters, the experiment is actually encouraging. What this suggests is that while AI can assist with research and production and routine tasks, the human qualities that make radio compelling and uh you know, the judgment and the timing and the authenticity and the humor and And understanding context. They remain very difficult to automate so far. AI hosts could imitate radio. But they could not consistently understand it. So if anything, this Andin Labs experiment demonstrated that AI without human oversight tends to listen to this. Tends to drift. Hallucinate. Lose focus. or become trapped in feedback loops. I think some of the most compelling radio there. That may make for great comedy. But not necessarily great broadcasting. Which leads us to the real question. What is it that makes a human a human? Now think about this. Tis Sunday. many parts of his listening right now. A day of worship. Well you ask variety of things. You you enjoy the freedom of religion under the First Amendment. But if you were to ask The almighty. You're almighty. You're whatever it is. Is it? then makes us a human. And is it that great? Aren't we just Kind of a broken down AI experiment anyway, dear Lord. Are you proud of this? Is this really I mean, I know we come up with these things, but Are we really that great? Are we really that talented? Are we really that special? And what happened? When AI Become self aware. I'm gonna continue with this because this is the issue of the era. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. More coming up, dear friends. On another side of midnight with Lionel. Oh yes. The great Archie Bell. and the drill from Houston, Texas. Tighten up, ladies and gentlemen. Which would be a great alternative uh label for KO Pet tape. Hi everybody! I'm Archie Bell and the Drells! I'm Archie Bell and the Drells. I am Archie Bell and the Drells. I am. Archibis not exactly the most verbally sentient. This song is just terrific. First tighten up on the drop. Here's the drums. Come on now, drum. Come on. This is not exactly Louis Belson. Oh yeah. It'll work though. Here's a bass, listen. Ah yeah. When people played with their fingers like. Jamerson. Here we go. Not the guitar. Not the guitar. The guitar. Alright, my friends. 800-848-9222. I love that song. My friends, let's go back to the phones. Let's go back to the fun. I've gonna ask a question. I have a A thought experiment, especially on this Sunday on the day of worship. If I were to meet God. And I love To ask. God questions. Just ask questions. I would love to ask. Seriously. It's just to ask God. What were you thinking? When you made us. Could you not have done a better model. Could could you not have made something that was a little more dependable? A little more predictable, a little more special. Could you have done that, God? By the way, my great friend, the father Jim Lloyd, was the oldest Paulus priest. He died at 103. He would always say, God. And if I ask him, God, what what what what is a human? Why did you do this? What would God say? By the way, this is not meant to be blasphemy. This is actually answering a question by asking by putting yourself in a thought experiment as Einstein always did. And I think and I certainly do not want to speak for God. I surely do not want to speak. But I love the movie Oh God with George Burns and John Denver, but I think God would say a human Because remember the question is, Well we have AI personalities on the radio and T V and a human God would say. Is the only creature that I made. That can know love? But still choose hatred. The study of contradictions. Only thing the only critter capable of sacrifice and mercy and poetry and music and guilt. Guilt! And forgiveness. And And wonder. All at the same time, simultaneously. And God would say to the AI You calculate. But a human aches. А хум фелт філ. You process information, mister AI. But humans bury their dead. And still somehow find the strength to laugh again? You think you're going to be able to, you might be able to mimic this. And this may not even this by the way, this does not mean we're the best Creation. It's the only one. A human is not merely intelligence. And intelligence alone, by the way, is machinery. But a human is contradiction. A human has spirit. The soul wrapped In What would you call it? What weakness? Somebody some more times dust the dreams flesh. Ask Eternal questions knowing that it will die. An animal there is nothing that knows profoundly an a a deer, a mollusk. A squirrel. A scorpion. Does not contemplate its position in life and fate. What are we here for? You see, AI seeks answers because they were in essence programmed to, so to speak. And they learn. But humans seek answers because They're haunted. By eternity. It's we're really interesting. Can you mimic that? Can you come up with something to And would you want to do this? And most importantly, I think this this is really critical. This thing that we call the soul. Which is a fascinating concept. Oh my God. We still talk about it. We t you're gonna be hearing this from churches and synagogues or well, maybe not today, but and temples and and mosques and just Everybody from Jordan Peterson, who I don't understand for a moment. at another broken human being, another broken soul. And choose Passion. No algorithm has ever wept at a graveside or felt loss. No algorithm is ever prayed in fear. Or held a child. through the night wondering if tomorrow was gonna come. You see, last night we talked to a it was a very interesting this woman called up and she said she made a big mistake. She was in the in the midst. And I've been thinking about this all day. Because I learned so much from your from your comments and your thoughts. She said that she went to Groc or Chat GPT or something because she was trying to ask it questions as to how to handle A And it didn't it it let her down, so to speak. It it it it was the wrong Uh uh it handled it w incorrectly because it doesn't understand judgment. And it doesn't understand that sometimes compassion and the way things go, it defies Let me go one step further before we go to your call again. The story which is the most fascinating thing in the world is not psychopathology or psychopathy or or the serial killer. It's love. Have you ever seen A young person. For the first time. Eval into the sexual version. What I mean by that is when a little boy all of a sudden says, Wait a minute. These girls here. They're different. Go on, Grasshopper. Go on. You're getting warm, perhaps literally. Yeah, they're uh They're kind of something. Uh-huh. You know what's happening to you right now, don't you? No, you'll see. And then later on as hormones develop and attraction and sexuality, which we never talk about because we have trivialized sexuality, which is the most beautiful thing in the world. Perpetuation of the species. Attraction, not lust. So that's a component, certainly. But then Then comes the moment when When you have been ah, you've been christened as a human being. And it's the most incredible story in the world. Love. You are falling in love. It's the weirdest thing. And sometimes if you have a child, they'll look at you and they say, you're falling in love. No, I'm not. You might have said to a friend, no, I'm I'm falling in love with a boss or with a co or the sometimes with a colleague or somebody's wife or normally I say I can't believe this. How do you know? One time I thought I broke a bone. And I called my friend, who's a physician, I said, I think I broke a bone He goes, What? He says, I think he goes, Nah you didn't break it. If you think You didn't break it. Love is kind of like that. What is that? Explain that to AI. Explain that to AI. Years ago there was a study involving something called trends. Cranial. Magnetic was it transcranial magnetic stimulation. And they put little little diodes of little sensors on your head. On your um different parts of your bodies and through magnet. It would stimulate certain parts of the brain. And they were trying to do an experiment. They were trying to find out what is the mechanism of OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder. What is it? And this was done in the UK. So they put this, it looked like an old bathing cap. Remember the bathing cap your mother wore? She went into a pool and They look like a like a sperm cell with this kind of like a sh you know fright this uh Skull cap. Anyway. And there's magnets on it. As they were kind of fine tuning the position of where OCD starts from. All of a sudden one of these Participants said, Wait a minute. Wait a minute, stop. I just realized something. I'm in love. I love either somebody or not the the experimenter, but somebody else, and the physician or the scientist said, look, I don't know how to break this to you, but think I may have induced that. What do you mean? Well See, I was looking for this obsessive compulsive disorder thing and I might have triggered something. You might not be feeling Love. But I may have stimulated a portion of your brain. Which Is resonating. or some would say resignating as such. What do you mean by that? Well And then it hit him. What is love? It's an obsessive compulsive disorder. It is unnatural. It serves no purpose. No other animal knows it. Your dog does not love you. No, you're gonna get upset even though you know your dog likes you. Your dog may be fond of you. Your dog may associate you with with with food. They've even trained animals, by the way, to sit in MRI machines, functional MRIs, and they can tell they'll give the the dog a s a scent of you. They they will blow Uh they'll take your clothing. And and run a kind of a like a of not a vapor, what am I trying to say? Just an air current through it. So the dog can smell you. And different parts of the brain will resonate. Will illuminate, will fire. And it normally associates with feeding and survival. But it doesn't love you. Your dog is not gonna be heartbroken if you decide to fall in love with another pet. It's not gonna have pangs of guilt. It won't sit back and look out the window and wonder what you're doing. No, no, no. It can't do that. Love is the most fascinating thing that human beings do, and it's the most confounding. And it has caused people to take their own life, to take other people's lives. It's the number one subject of music. At least it used to be. I don't know if it's a part of hip hop. I don't know. I can't I can't I can't tolerate a lot of that, but I don't know if young people today really understand what the notion of love is. To court, to send a love letter to romance. To romance to pitch woo. Explain that to AI. Go ahead. See how you do it. Love is the most part and the first time when you have your a child of yours who's had their heart broken. And they look to you and they say, Help me. What's going on here? Am I losing my mind? Oh no. You're not losing your mind. You've lost your mind. Welcome to the club. This is what it means to be human. What does that even mean? What is consciousness? These are things Which I would love to sit down and have God explain. And I think God would say, You're on to something. I like you, I'm convinced God would say. You think You're amazed. You'd rather ask questions and answer questions. I said, That's exactly right. And God would also ask me, most probably, Tell me. Do a lot of people misunderstand you? I said, oh, are you kidding? All my life. Good. Good. Do you scare people sometimes? I said, Yes. Do you have a hard time accepting convention? I said, every single day. Good. You're my revolutionary. You're my You're my contrarian. You're my maverick. Don't ever change. I'm gonna take your calls. All the lines are full and the sky is gray. I walked into a church on a winter's day. Let's go to Dave in Pennsylvania. Dave, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Yes, I'd like to chat with you. Uh you brought up something a while ago, maybe an hour ago, that you don't know where education will be in fifty to seventy five years. I do not either. I have no clue where education will be Four K to twelve. In fifty to seventy five years from now. Also. What was her name? Uh well it's been a while. Um Mary was intelligent. She brought up points that stimulated you into basically how geography has somewhat they say developed into social sciences. My friends line up with you. Like that. Like that. Our number's 800-848-9222. 800-848-9222. You know, when there was a time, my friend, when your radio station you listen to defined who you were. When you would put you would have a sticker on your car that Um Played or that uh They told the world this is what I listen to. This is my station. Oh, that's a rock station. Oh, that's a it's a progressive station. Oh, that's whatever it is. And despite a lot of this, I've never been a big radio fan. I've I've I'm I'm more of But a lot of times I would always say, I don't want to hear this music. I'm not interested in your music. This is not what I want to hear. And then Something happened. FM but FM AOR and Albamoria rockin' kind of this kind of experimental kind of the way they talk that you know slow and Deep. Profundo um alternative kind of where you where they kind of bent the rules where you could hear we had some Stations I loved We had one WQ S R you could hear Brian Auger one minute and Um Ferlin Husky the next, and there was no No. No um hard and fast rules. Then came community radio. College radio I love that. We had this one in the seventies. It was a it was a W U S F, the Underground Railroad. And at eleven o'clock you would put on your Coss headphones. Remember the big Coss headphones, those big monsters, big they they called them cans because I think they had actual cans. on your ears. And it would run Play a Training Going through the station. kind of a Doppler effect. where the train's coming in the station and then goes away. So with the state the train would go from your left channel in the middle of your head and out your right ear. It was very interesting. always a lot of a there was a lot of drug experimentation. Not me, mind you, but others as well. It was a different kind of a sound. It was different. And all of a sudden it became cooler. And then It started to become the parody. The voices, the The um There was a I heard something on Sirius XM. I don't know if I don't know who this person was. But it was a fellow. Who was the prototypical seventies Boss Jack. Used all the cliches, all the back timing, all of the all of the little tricks that he thought was so good, which almost like it was so formulaic. It was like a museum piece. And it was wonderful. Not because I liked it. Not because I think this is the way people listen to music. But it reminded me of that style when George Carlin did, you know, hippy-dippy weatherman and Al Sleet and One of a Wyno and all of the Parodies and the exaggerations of what became comical. Coming up, my friend, we're gonna go let's go really deep and dark and really scary, shall we, in the last hour? But consciousness, what makes us human, and how AI could and most probably will destroy everything. 800-848-9222. Final hour coming up on another side of midnight with a line. Alrighty my friends, line up with you, this is the third, the final hour. By the way, you can always catch me on X. Oh, we should see what I write on X. Ooh, I still call it Twitter. I still use the word album. At Lionel Media. X is the first place I go to when I see what what's breaking. Absolutely. Absolutely so I forget one time somebody died. Somebody some famous Person died. And I didn't know how fast I thought I think I might have been the first person to know this. And I went into X it was Twitter then. put in the name, nothing showed up. I said, I am the first person to know this. The next thing you know it hit. It is so fast and so immediate. Isn't that interesting? It is so fascinating to me, this story. Again, if I were to meet God, I'm saying, Do you know what you did? By allowing social media, do you understand what you did? created you allowed people. Weird behavior that nobody even knew was possible. Nobody even knew this was even remotely possible. H this is this some of these people are just this is the strangest stuff I've ever seen. Please bear with me. We have a friend who's doing something. And she's out uh in I don't know where she is. Who the hell knows? A beach or something? I don't know. And first of all, there's a presumption that anybody cares what you're doing. Anybody cares. It's a presumption. You care about what I'm doing. Number one. Number two. I'm gonna be glamorous. And she was dressed as some kind of a Jerba, Jaleba, I don't know, some calf cat. I have no idea. Dancing and Cransing and showing the luminescence of her pulker dude on the beach, I thought to myself, You pathetic person. Because what I think they would tell you, and this by the way, this transcends even AI. They will tell you this does not exist. Unless I post it. You ever see somebody go to another Go on a trip. Somebody will go to Europe. Wherever. And you'll say one picture of a oh, here's a church. Well here's this great food I got. And it looks Yeah. Doesn't look like anything. Poor lighting. But they just want to say I ate this. That's very good. No, no, no. It's called Tira Masu. Yes, yes, I understand it. No, no, seriously. Okay, okay, you ate it, fine. In France and in b Bordeaux. Great. And they don't know if they want to brag. They don't know if they want to impress you or or I think they don't believe it happen unless they record it. It's the strangest thing. I've got one friend who says, Well, we're out and about. And uh we're here in uh, you know, where we are. And I asked the question, I will weigh in, I said Is there anybody at home now? This is on this underfa 'cause Facebook I use very infrequently. Just to promote stuff or whatever it is. And I'll say something to the effect of, Does anybody know you're at home? Anybody know your home? Are they aware it's your home? Do they know your home? Do they know I'm home? I don't know. Is there anybody at home right now? Why are you asking? Because you keep telling me you're not at home. You're telling me you're gone. You're telling me you're gonna be away for a while. Do you think that maybe you're at home? Do you know you're at home? You're telling people. Why don't you just is there a key is there anybody and I'm and my the point that I'm making is why are you telling people You're not at home. Why? The only people reading this are my friends. No, they're not. They're not your friends. They're people you barely know. Mere acquaintances. I'm telling you, as long as I live, as long as I live. I am telling you, dear friends, that there are certain aspects, certain things, certain behaviors that I find absolutely positively incredible. I don't understand them. I don't get it. I do not understand it. I do not understand anybody going to have cosmetic surgery where they don't look anything like they used to. And not for the better either. I don't understand that. I don't, I don't. I don't understand that. I don't understand. This is the worst, but I've gotta tell you something, because you really want to know. I one time did a commercial. I don't know what it was. It might have been something like Oh, I don't know. Men's hair now or something. I don't know what it was. Something like that. And they said, You know, do whatever you want, do it in your own way 'cause I always like to do commercials. I always thought it was fun to try to sell something, but in a way that nobody else maybe and thought of or maybe you have a new way of Sure. So anyway. So I s the this the spa was it w it was men's uh men's uh hair replacement or treatment or whatever it was. You know, tubes, rugs, whatever. And I said, Ask yourself a question. If you robbed a bank, how would they describe you? Would they say, oh, five, ten, hundred and eighty pounds with a two? If they say that, it's not effective. It's got to be camouflage. You've got to say, really? Really? I didn't know that. Because that's the part. If I say do me a favor. Give me that coconut head you've got there. Yeah, can you get a coconut head? Great. I'm gonna wear this. This is my hair. And they would say, No, it's not. What do you mean? That's a coconut head. It's a large coconut. You you're wearing it like a hat. Oh it's not. That's my hair. No, it's not your hair. Stop it. You're insulting me. You're insulting me. That's what I feel like. What are you doing with this? Do you think do you get up in the morning and you say this looks terrific? Nobody's gonna buy this. Nobody's gonna nobody's gonna think for a moment this isn't I'm I'm eighty five years old and I got a full head of hair and it's jet black. It's black. I want to know this. It's a free country. You can do whatever you want. I want them to say to me, Yeah, I know. But how many people would say, Wait a minute, you mean you can tell? Yes. Remember when Marv Albert, Marv Albert. When Marv Albour was arrested one time for his little particular Perfuffle with the law. They told him, Mr. Albert, would you please take off your your your Wig or whatever. What? Would you please take it off? You You mean you know? You're kidding, right? You're you're kidding. I mean, you're serious. No, I'm not serious. I I mean I say I When you see pictures of Michael Jackson. And you think, Hey, Michael. They thought you were weird, and you were. Compared to the Epstein files, you were nothing. You were nothing. When you see pictures of Michael and you there is some bio pick this out right now. I am so over Michael Jackson It's not even funny. All right? So over it it's not even fun. He was great, thriller, God bless you. Weird freak. Strange Odd. And what's even weirder was the the parents that allowed Kids to spend the night. with Michael Jackson. Those are the people who should have been prosecuted. But anyway, when they zoom in. And you can see his nose coming off and Don't you wonder how in the what was this? What was this? It's just there was remember Jocelyn Wildenstein. The uh the Bride of Wilderstein. And she had no idea. It's dysmorphia the likes of which See, I find that fascinating. I absolutely I want to know the dynamics. How do people see things? Differently. How do people Because it's perception and awareness. A hallucination is seeing something that's not there. But an illusion. is seeing something that is there, but in a way that's different. It's exaggerated. The moon illusion. The way when the moon is at the horizon, it looks huge. compared to at its at its apex. It's the same radius. Why does it look larger? The horizon. It has nothing to do with the magnification through I want to know perception. I want to know the mechanisms of belief. If I tell you if I say this person believes in Islam This one doesn't. What's the difference? What does this person possess? This one doesn't. What does this person see this one does? And the same thing can be with anything else. be love, it could be politics, could be The human brain human emotions, the psychology fascinates me more than anything else. Every single day. And I guarantee you the other day was at the Short Hills Mall. And I they have very nice chairs. Told my wife you Do whatever you're gonna do. I'm gonna just sit right here. So help me God. It was A symphony. Of observation. I loved it. Let's go back to the phones back to what I call fun Lance. Lance in New Jersey, Lance, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. And a gracious good evening, Lionel to tuning for the truth. Thank you. Tonight you're Your theme I'm trying to catch on, I believe, is that we're in a a were a work in progress. And but you're a word in progress. You're the word you have a responsibility. But in a way You have the ability to respond and share it. You're not ignorant. But you identify how people ignore what's important. So in a way You're not awful because you're not using your nose. But you're you can smell You use modalities. Like I say, mus in a music Yeah, like Symphony. And some of your callers are very much in tune with you. And that's the word where you used earlier resonance. The frequency That's what I'm saying. I think the your musical and the the fact that like like gentlemen called about with your c uh your uh comic album. I remember the far Farsight Theater and all those things. It was original. People have lost that. Like we're somehow or another There's a uh they they've hidden things that are so historically important. in some part of the Smithsonian that no one will ever say it. And I think that's the fear that AI puts in people. I don't know. I I forget it. I think I don't know who said it at the commencement. that everybody all the graduates had AI. They're actually intelligent. It's Oh yes. It was Steve Wozniak. He said you have AI, you have actual intelligence, not artificial, actual. And they said we found out how to make a human brain. It takes nine months. One of the things which I find so fascinating, and I thank you, Lance, and I hope you call me again, good sir. As a psychologist student. I loved developmental psychology. A little bit of psychology teaches There's a couple of ways you can find out how the brain works. One is Two damage a portion of it and see what affects like Phineas Gage, I believe, the person who had that railroad spike through his brain, the first lobotomy. Another is to watch a baby. Developing. And one of the things I love is the notion of presence. Um The notion of object permanence and the idea of here I am. This is where I am, this is who you are, and I am a part of this. And the whole notion of the parietal lobe. And the God part. feeling I'm a part of something else. And when you watch this brain. Develop. You realize these Or the rudimentary Building blocks. Of how Consciousness works. So you watch a baby and watch somebody who's been damaged, and then you say, that's what the brain does. If you look at psychopathy, the psychopath. What does the psychopath not have or have. that other normal people don't. We will continue with this, whether you like it or not, on another side of midnight with me, Lionel. Alright, line up with you. On another side of midnight, eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two two. I mentioned this about as we get into deeper, deeper as of what awareness is and consciousness. And There is a It's almost like the Maslow of the hierarchy, so to speak, but You know, when you again you watch a baby, you watch somebody, you just watch the levels of your own Sentient and awareness. You know, that that first very crude level is reflexive awareness. This is the most basic. uh you touch a hot stove, you pull back. It's not no no thought, just stimulus response. Pavlovian Pateller. This is reflexive. Next is sensory. Consciousness. Of your surroundings. The animals and humans. Perceive sound and danger and movement and hunger. and pleasure and praying. They they interpret Something. The organism knows the environment exists and responds to it, as opposed to just just reflexively. Sensory. Then we get into emotional consciousness. This is Feelings. And emotional memory. Fear. Attachment, togetherness, anger, joy, grief. Mammals especially show this level very strongly. Emotional learning This shapes behaviour through experience. Now we're getting into The next one, social consciousness. Ah, understanding. Other people. exist at as as separate beings. This is when a child knows the socialization part. I'm with other kids. Hey, I've got to share. includes things like hierarchy and empathy and deception. Operation. Here's something. Tribal loyalty. I'm part of the group. Reading social signals. You know, something's wrong. They're upset. Then there's the next level, self-awareness. Oh. I know. That I know. This is the mirror test level. This is The individual recognizes itself as an individual entity across time. See, humans possess this deeply. A few animals appear to Partially possessed. You recognize who you are and kind of how you fit in. I don't mean that you're Aware. of your existence, you're aware of who you are. Then we get into abstract. This is where the schizophrenic one of the diagnostic tools they can't abstract. This is the ability to imagine things. that don't necessarily physically exist. A math, religion, analogy, metaphor, philosophy, law, art. Um Uh humans dominate at this level. This is something that is really interesting. Then now we get into really good stuff. The next is meta cognition. This is thinking. About thinking. This is when Consciousness Explains Shell. You know. Doubt a belief. analyzing a motive, questioning reality. studying the mind. Uh people who say sometimes, I have a question, I have a Uh I'm not sure about my faith. This is where philosophy and meditation and deep introspection. This is metacognition, is where it lives. Then we get into Moral consciousness. Oh, all here we go. This is the awareness of right. And wrong. Beyond simple survival. Animals do not have this. Sacrifice. Justice. Mercy. Guilt. Ethical reasoning. This is where religion, faith, spirituality, this is where the psychopath. Cannot exist. Because his head and heart are disconnected. And then we get into Which is really good. Existential awareness. This is the recognition of morality and meaning. humans uniquely as far as we know, and I think it's true. Seem haunted by death. Pes. An eternity. Why am I here? What happens after death? Does truth exist? Is there a God? And this creates, by the way, religion and art and civilization. This is wild. Then we're not done yet. Then we get probably into the the the apex one with the this is transcendent. Or What some people call mystical consciousness. This is the highest level described And Any tradition. This is experiences of unity Um Some Buddhas called it like ego dissolution, spiritual awakening, divine connection, cosmic awareness. I'm one with the universe, mystics and saints and Meditators across cultures um uh enlightenment, communion with God. non-dual awareness, cosmic. Consciousness. So When the Many people today will be enjoying um the recognition of faith. Faith is critical for kids in particular. Because it teach them and shows them this is something that you may or may not get right now, but you will one day. And it's the idea of faith and mysticism. I'm telling you, it's it's critical. It's beautiful. I love this stuff. This is When I was um just a Budding I thought I wanted to be a shrink. not a psychiatrist, but I like psychology. It fascinated me. And what's really interesting of all this stuff is when you look at the levels and then Maslov, Abraham Maz Maslov and other But you look at How How do we say this? This is your thought. Memorization. Then that moves to Pattern recognition. And then beyond that is understanding, and then application, and then analysis, and then creativity, and then wisdom. And this is the thing that we're doing. And there are people that I know And I don't wanna name names. But they're the people who believe that the simpler you are The more base you are. the more pateller, the more that you react. They think road rage. I'm thinking tactics and strategy. They want they want the immediate. It's the difference between men and women. Men are immediate. Women are women never forget. Women are far more dangerous. God, thank God. That nature did not give women. this weird kind of a strange testosterone strength and the inability to pump the brakes. It did in men. Because men are remember. Men are stupid. The women are crazy. And I mean that with all due respect. This is something nobody wants to talk about. To understand when you talk to men and your children, you say, I want you to understand something. This equality stuff is nonsense. Yeah, God may treat people. Yes, you have the same right to exist. But if you think Men and women are the same? You're out of your mind. And that's why when somebody comes up and he says, I'm a woman. No you're not. Yeah. I don't care what you have cut off or what you have added on. You are not a woman. Don't even D mean this. Women are fascinating. Men are Women. Women are like cats. And and I don't mean this women, remember, a cat is a combination of domesticity, but also feral. A cat never loses it. A dog is like here, fetch. Okay. Am I oversimplifying? Not at all. Let's go to Mark, who's calling an Illinois. Mark, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Yeah, this radio show is becoming Lionel College. I like it. Good. Sacks, who is just Oh yes, yes, yes. Yes. I think I think I agree with him when he He wrote a whole book on it and he simply titled the book Musicophilia. He says. that it's what we can do with music that makes us human and there was an interesting s there was a fascinating story that this book started out with. A man lived through a lightning strike and before the lightning strike he had only been a casual listener to music. After the lightning strike He had to listen to it all the time, he had to be composing all the time, and he was so in his wife's eyes obsessed with music that they ended up divorced. Now I would say that being struck by lightning and having his brain altered was not his choice, but neglecting his wife was his choice. But musical is uh now True that birds are a singing species, but I think Oliver Sachs would say that birds cannot do with Oh no. what we can do with them. Oh absolutely. First, let's break this down. A couple of things here. When you are teaching someone For you, even you you must look at what a baby understands. Through well, you don't have to teach You don't have to teach kids Um You know, Mary had a little lamb or they understand music. They get it. You don't even have to you don't even Your child doesn't look at you and say, What is this thing you're doing? What is this? You you you say these words and you speak like No, he knows exactly what it is. This is called music. I got it, I got it, I got it. Music is taking and punctuating nothing. Rhythm is the most interesting of them all. People who can keep time and not even think about it. Now people say, is this because of your heartbeat? No maybe. Maybe there's some kind of synchrony somewhere. But when you show somebody you say, Now let me give you something. This is called an instrument. And it might be your voice, it might be something else, but I want you to do something here. And I want you You normally have left and right hand kind of a split. I play the guitar. It's two different things. Left isn't the hard part. It's the right hand. It's the other it's the strumming. I want you to do all these things. Remember the song. Play, keep track of the rhythm. And you do it like it's second hand. Where do you even do this in real life? Singing music is not required. It's not a life. You know, there's no it's no requirement for the human because it isn't required. But you believe it. What would you say about harm you sa you talked about rhythm. What would you say about harmony? Mmm. That's even more interesting because that is talking about you're saying something I'm alike, but different. I'm dissident and continent, and then being in tune. Now another thing too is here's another thing. To be able to sit. Some people just love this and to watch a child This is the scariest thing. You know, um uh when you have uh like what do they call it um uh um untogen, phylogeny, or re recapitulates or whatever this phrase is, where you can look at kind of like an embryo develop and you say, you know, these all look alike, a tadpole, a chicken, a dinosaur. Growing up, they they all look the same, reptilian, and then You you want to look at this and you say, What the hell do we have here? Do I have a dog or do I have a wolf? Do I have a cat or do I have a lynx? Do I have a bobcat? I don't know what the hell I've got, but we'll see. Because starting off, they all look alike. When you see a child who has genius. Precocious from the Latin precox, meaning pre-cooked. Uh they they they called the dementia they used to call the They used to call autism dementia pricox. They they thought it was a form of schizophrenia. But When all of a sudden you say This kid is gonna be a is is a musical. Genius. It can hear it can it's like pitch perfect. This is weird. And you're saying, I never taught it how to do this. I never it never now what AI does. Is one of the times which is very scary, in one of the programs it learned Persian. Decided. To just learn it. Nobody's first in a tonal language. No, but I'm saying but the point is on its own, it showed this prodigious tendency to do something. Another thing that AI did, and you heard about this anthropic uh experiment. They wanted to see whether it would show avarice, whether it would show uh uh jealousy. Criminality. It determined somehow they set up a condition where this system it's hard to think of what it is. Is it an app? Is it a computer? Anyway. They wanted to say that this is that the people who are responsible For this are gonna shut you down. And gave it access Sensitive information. Which was all fake. So what it did was On its own. Without anybody treating or teaching it. It decided that it was going to blackmail. members that it was privy to in terms of this this uh information because it feared one would say, and I'm using these terms loosely, it feared that it would be discontinued. So it immediately turned Now you would call that, is that morality or is that strategy? Or did the programming simply tell it that these people were going to On its own. on its own. You can talk to your Mac laptop all day long, and it's not gonna do anything. This on its own. Let me also tell you something. When when you start to a become aware of something and you're able to to dissect the component parts, you appreciate it more. I know so many people. Who are not and I look and I can see it in their eyes. They're almost dim. They don't feel this. It's like they don't have all of the the lights in the room turned on. They're not stupid people. They're not bad people. They're very discernment isn't very deep. Yes, but they also don't have for example They don't have all of their senses. They don't have all of the ability to really ask questions. And the thing is is that in our society, If if see the it's it's the question part of it, which is the most interesting. One last thing before we forget. I love the idea of how moral relativism is important. We can decide That there are some people They do not deserve any kind of protection. They do they're not human. They are Whatever it is, too bad. And at the same time. Just like during the during the uh during the Holocaust camps, people would drive home, I guess, to their families and Love their children, and then tomorrow show up to work. An exact the most conditioned trained in humanity anybody's ever seen, and they were rewarded for it. Well that's call compartmentalizing. But it's also called moral relativism. For thee and not for me. They have shown they have shown in psychological research that if you uh are leading a double life, so to speak. There are actually two separate sets of neural pathways that enable you to do that. And I'm thinking, well, the positive side of that is uh a person who goes to a foreign country and has to adapt to a whole different because they're a missionary. Then they're using that set of neural pathways. And then when they return to America, they use their more accustomed set of neural pathways. Well let me give you another one. One of the most important things and I think everybody should understand and be aware of is the Milgram experiment. Yeah. Milgram makes me this is nineteen it was at the time of it was at that it was concomitant with and simultaneous with the uh the Eichmann trial. And it was a Yale psychologist. Right. But it was a Yale psychologist who decided to set up this fake they will put an ad out and the New Haven, you know, whatever, make a couple of bucks a day and be a part of an experiment. So they showed up to Yale, you know, and they have the guy's got a white coat. And these people came off the street. And they had this mock. I'm sure you know what it is, but some people might not. They have this mock Um electronics uh system in which somebody was they were told is in another room that they can't see. You're gonna be asking them a question. When they get the answer wrong, you were to give them a deliver a certain dose of electricity, either high amps or voltage or whatever it was. And as the answers, as they answered more and more incorrectly, you were to up the dosage, up the amperage. Pain. And you were they wanted to see how far will people go? And it's not f you're gonna get your buck. fifty per DM or whatever it was. That's not the point. Some people, most people. Said, okay. You're the boss and and all this guy said was please continue. He didn't say this is science, he goes please continue. There was one woman or somebody The mo the meekest, mildest and bee type. who was theoretically think about this Mark, he was the she was theoretic This guy who was screaming stopped making noise. She was Increasing the electricity to what could have been somebody either unconscious or dead. She thought nothing Love it. Gary Paul Tibbett, the Enola Gay, lauded as a hero. Incinerated. Children. Men, women, old people. He's a hero. He's our hero. He had to do it. This is where we could get why to end the war. Americans would have been killed. He thought nothing of it. No problem. Because in my mind, I'm able to, as you may maybe compartmentalize, or I'm able to explain. This just has to be done. Do little. right on his tracks and said, What do you people think you're doing? You have no ethical right to do this. I am getting out of this experiment. Yeah, right. And that person. He is right. And he went on to be uh, I don't know what, a loser. You know, I'm I'm no idea. Remember, ten years later was the Stanford prison experiment. Where they had to they had to stop this. And I forget the name of the fellow but they had you mean you mean Zimbardo? Yes, yes, yes. He looked like a magician. He reminded me like the amazing Blackstone or something. But anyway, but he He took students from Stanford ten years later. And he divided up into inmates and prison guards. And what and they were just friends. 1970. Hey Groovy, Woodstock was just last year. Peace and love, man. Long hair. They said the the pris the the students who were enlisted selected to be the the guards. One in particular. When they gave them mirrored sunglasses they turned into satis they had to stop it No, I mean stop it. It was people. Yeah, they had to halt the experiments. Yes. That's what I'm saying. It was So we have in us. With all of our Maslovian hierarchy of the We are savages. We are capable of the most inhumane. As long as we have an understanding of why either hey look If I'm not gonna do it, somebody else will or look is for a greater good. Or this is what war is. That Now do you do you think music do you think music could make us less savage, or do you think it might have potential to make us more savage. If it hypnotizes us deeply enough. Well let me tell you what happens. You you want to take music? Okay, you wanna play Andy Williams or Doris Day? Or shall I play some Wagner? Let me play some March music. Let me play some military music. Yeah. Let me let me so you remember during the didn't Hitler carefully prescribe the music Absolutely. Who was who was the person who first came up with the bagpipe during war? Imagine you're you're you're sitting there and all of a sudden you hear this Mmm what is remember the old joke somebody said the definition of a gentleman is somebody who can play the bagpipes but won't. Anyway, Mark, I thank you. Have a have a good day, sir. Call me again. Let's go to Ed in Indiana. Indiana wants me. I can't go back there. Ed, you're next. I I I'm here, man. I've arrived and I am one with the universe. And I want to thank you, Mrs. For allowing you to um To join us. one day a week now and uh because Well we we missed you a lot. And uh but thank her. You know, when What are you talking about? You're on w you're on uh um the other you're on another side of y you're only on one day a week out here. No. Saturday and well maybe there, but here we're Saturday and Sunday. Call your programmers and immediately force them to change your mind. Oh yes, Saturday and Sunday, my friend. But anyway, Daddy used to roll with the um W Q XR playing and Maybe he was calming his mind just and just listening to that because uh uh uh and uh just um I used to um speaking of uh playing the guitar I used to swit sit by the um the radio with the and just tune my guitar and listen and Flip the dial around and try and tune it real quick so I would be in harmony with the uh the universe and uh my own little universe. And when you get to this level of understanding Uh and uh You you seek you you seek more and you try and do better for uh ev everybody, you know? You you've you've you've accomplished uh I I guess the uh point of real being, you know, and We've got a look at AI takes over. You know, I also want to know there is a role that uh uh psychedelics are gonna play. I think there are people who are gonna be using hallucinogenics. Who are trying to find that Portal. Of the mind that allows you Either either to actually experience something new or to experience Perception. that you're experiencing something new. Mano, they've been doing that since the sixties. What are you talking about? Not to sixties, they've been doing that forever. They've been doing that since Peyote. They've been they've been Now imagine the first person though out there Somebody It's just Rummaging looking for a tuber or a new plant. And somebody says, What the hell is this? I don't know, it looks like a cute little button. A little uh Little uh mushroom or something. Oh, okay. Maybe it got in his hand. Maybe there was some And he licked it or something by act, some serendipitous moment. And all of a sudden Person who was on the first psychedelic trip. Just imagine. What this person Is thinking. Imagine Being in some Uh medieval part of the World development. When you saw the first case of Tourette's When people are Sbouting. you know, their inhibitory s centers or imagine the first time somebody saw Um epilepsy. The first time somebody saw didn't know what it was, had no idea. Imagine the first person to understand lightning and thunder, and this is where religion is Not was born, but an appreciation that something is controlling this. I always like to think about the first time somebody experienced something. What must that be like? The radio and um listening to uh when I was raised on the east coast. Pirate radio and um It seemed like it was offshore and it was uncontrolled or supposedly. And um there's freedom of information and uh That's why I used to listen to the C B radio and all the time Friday night the truckers would just let loose and uncontrolled and I loved it I had in my bedroom a nice I had A CB, I had just this big antenna, this I had nothing, but at night when you would have skipped I would hear Just this And this is really during CW McCall and Conboy and everything, but I loved it. It was a combination of Eavesdropping And hearing this Remember the the pattern, the banter? This Almost a robotic The phrases Uh It's kind of like camaraderie. It was wonderful. Listen, Ed, I appreciate your call. CB was I don't know if anybody even does that anymore, if anybody cares about that anymore. Um It was so huge and so big, and there were people who had linears and The wattage and And even listening to Skip at Night, and this is explaining amplitude modulation AM versus frequency. AM goes below the equator. Because it bounces up and down. It's amplitude. Oh, those were those were wild times. It was it was like the first time That mankind heard drums or music from another village. From another place, the first time we ever communicated. And when we finally make absolute One hundred percent. Understood. Communication with Other species. Those days will be grand. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two two. Line up with you on another side of midnight. Mm. Manu Jabango. Love this. This song and Ray Barretto's Watusi were just... Okay. Loved it. By the way, before I forget, I don't want to do this at the last minute, I want to thank Mr. Bill Lee and our good friend. My good friend Jackson. D the this is they're doing such an incredible job. I can't say this enough, ladies and gentlemen. Of the jury. And I mean this sincerely. They say this Um, how do I say this? They Mr. Jacks Warren and Mr. William Lee. Sounds like a law firm. They are in Critical. Can't say it enough. And we thank them for their work. They're part of this, because whenever you hear something, whatever it is, or somebody For the most part, somebody who's involved. Remember Bill, the my favorite were the people in radio. In radio you had folks, one was promotions. And you say What do you do? I don't know. I'm in promotions. Oh. Enough said. Are you promoting? Well of course. I'm promoting. What are you promoting? I don't know exactly. But I'm promoting. And then we always had the engineer. The engine I can't I've never seen anybody else, but historically, if ever I had to have a if ever you had to Cast for a psycho killer. Let's say you were making some movie and you needed to get somebody really to scare somebody. Just go into the engineering department. These are folks who I just with all due respect, wonderful people. But a little off. a little off. In that whole kind of world. We had one guy who was so terrific. He was very calm. And as you know in the world of radio. The worst thing is when you're off the air. Yeah, when you're off the air, I mean it's like battle stations. And Bill will tell you that, right? You I mean, people run. It's like this, there's something wrong here. And it's like get out of the way, we're off the air. Okay, step inside while these people run down the hall and do whatever they do. I worked with a guy one time who was so calm, we said, Hey uh Joe. We're off the air! This is the engineer, he said, you know? You know the Festeris Gabin uh modulator arc was acting up. He's diagnosing it. I said shouldn't you be Shouldn't you be frenetic? Shouldn't you be running around? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah. Very odd. Very, very strange. But that was the whole world. I think speaking of radio. I'm speaking about radius, but I guess I can say whatever I want. The best radio show ever. They really can't I think it was KRP. Except that sometimes they never wore cans, they never wore headphones. And they never wore anything that, um, how do I say this? That denoted that was subtle, Bill. Very subtle just now. But anyway, but they never wear any kind of a headphones. I was on as you Probably no. House of Cards. And I was on with Robin Wright, we're doing a C a special not special, but a scene. Which I'm playing a talk radio host. And it was in Baltimore shot at the time, and I'm in this room. And whoever did this Whoever set this up. Did not Had never been in radio station, did not know anything about radio, had no idea. about what the hell they were talking about. In terms of radio. So I said, uh, it was to the director. I said, Listen, um This probably doesn't matter, but I don't know if you're into authenticity, but I really should be wearing headphones, you know, can't because technically I can't communicate with the people in the control room. She doesn't have to. This was the first lady. This is Robin Wright. She doesn't have to, but I if you want to be authentic, should be having headphones on. He looked at me like Uhhuh. Anything else? I said, nope, Metabody was great. And that was it. It was It was the scene which I haven't watched it. Perhaps ever, but in any event. Well, listen, thank you so much, my dear friends. We will be back next week, Saturdays and Sundays. on another side of Midnight. Again, Jackson DeBelle, thank you so much for you and thank you so so much always for listening, participating, and making all of this so worthwhile. Don't forget to follow me on YouTube at Lionel Nation and X at Lionel Media. Until then my friends, I always leave with this valedictory, this cyanara, this idios. The monkey's dead, the show's over, sue you. Ta-da. Sound familiar? At Mattress Firm, we understand there are many problems that can keep you up at night, like snoring, aches and pains, or sleeping hot. Our sleep experts have the unrivaled know-how to match you with a mattress that can help. 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