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But my friends, in case you have just tuned in. If you're wondering what this is about, this is not Cookie cutter meta political talk. Think more I like to think of this as extruder pasta with a bronze dye, intellectual, that is. I always say we're more Archie Bell than Art Bell. This is Experimental theater of the mind, so they speak. Or so they say right there. This is the this is the actually This is actually designed for the the the skeptical and the wide awake. None of this this late night spooky stuff. I don't know where that comes from. This is not this is not Art Bell. But this is another side of midnight, hence the name, but but it but it blends hard news and conspiracy culture and geopolitic psychology, uh media analysis, law, science, history, and the unexplained into one Perfect immersive radio experience and radio is alive if they allow it to be. Of course there's UFOs and disclosure. My p my particular version of this may not be um uh good news for you because I think much of it has been ignored. I think it's been a uh limited hangout. I don't think anybody's really interested in exposing anything regarding UAPs. Sorry. And this one thing I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna say oh this is great. Sometimes news is not great. Artificial intelligence and transhumanism is probably the biggest story of them all. Big tech overreach, digital surveillance, geopolitics, the new world order, alive and well. True crime, behavioral psychology, intel agencies and covert operations I mean you Are you getting a feel for what this is? Constitutional law, civil liberties, media manipulation and propaganda, paranormal phenomena, and unexplained mysteries. Health science skepticism pop culture through a psychological lens. America first politics. Remember that? America first? Remember that? America first? Whatever happened to that. I don't know. and cultural populism all of this. 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I'm not gonna pretend that I'm a sports fan. But I do find it interesting the tribalism. I do find it interesting this is juvenile, this is bread and circuses, baby. This is like this is so perfect. And for once, for once maybe there's a sense of people are seemingly, seemingly uh coordinated in some uh collective idea. And it's good. I think it's wonderful. Again, I've never under I d this is I've always imagined trying explain sports to somebody from another planet. And to tell them that this is something which is so inherently human. We don't know why people do it or why people love it, but they do and it's wonderful and it's great, so long as people don't overturn cars or show violence as a way of what's happening. Here's some news during the week, which I found interesting. Stephen King who was demented. He's a radical lefty. I mean, with all due respect to the radical left, he's an he's an idiot. He's just for no other particular way of saying it, he's an idiot. But he is of course one of America's most famous storytellers and he believes That humanity may soon confront the reality that we are not alone. Gee, do you think? While Stephen King is speaking from intuition rather than from scientific certainty, the timing of this is noteworthy as government agencies and military officials and researchers still continue discussing unidentified aerial phenomena with un What happens if disclosure arrives? As are are we prepared for the religious, philosophical, and political implications? Now I again I I'm looking around this there this is if if ever there was a Well how do I say this? I am absolutely positively one hundred percent sure that we are, of course, not alone. Not because of the Drake equation, not because of anything along those lines, but I just think the evidence has been there for millennia. As long as we have traipse. However, the people in charge of introducing the news are not going to allow it. Up to and including Neil DeGrasse Tyson, that clown, the Bill Nye, the science guy, who by the way is pretty much evaporated. He's kind of gone the way of Ben Shapiro. Here today, gone tomorrow. But I do not believe for a moment. For a moment. that you are ever going to be allowed any proof. A lot of the proof they don't have, but by the way, a lot of the proof is being held not by the President. Do you think President Trump has the highest security clearance? Not even close. Are people under any type of duty to disclose to him reality? Not even close. That shocks people, but it's true. Also this week researchers continue discovering that infants process far more information than previously believed new studies suggest. That babies may respond to sophisticated musical structures and patterns long before they can speak. And the findings raise fascinating questions about human development, creativity, and whether the the foundations of intelligence are in fact established. much, much earlier than experts once thought. I have said this, I have advocated this, it's Day one. Musical proficiency is the language of all humanity. Teach kids. music. Teach them the mathematics of music and they will benefit from the beginning. I believe that kids have I don't know if it's they say it was the s sound perhaps of the mother's aorta that Slashes and Tran not trans sex, but but basically is adjacent to the babies and even even their rudimentary hearing capacities understand the basics of rhythm. It's a f it's a wonderful thought. How about this during the week, Nantucket Church cancels fourth of July. Listen to this. A church's decision to cancel the traditional independent day observance because of concerns over political controversy highlights the growing tension between patriotism and politics. What was once a large uh unifying civil celebration is now increasingly viewed through partisan lenses. They said that this may in fact be too white. I don't even know what that means. I have no idea of what that means. The funniest story this week. The funniest story. And bless his heart, the president. Bless his heart. was when I heard that Mille Vanilla. Milly. Vanilla. to participate for reasons at the political pressure. Vanilli. I know mister Mr. Lee and I understand far too much what that is. That became almost a punchline. And for younger folks, they don't know what that means, but Millie Vanille, of course, you know, they were the disgraced, lip syncing, kind of a manufacturer group. And one individual um I believe uh uh exited uh stage left a little early at his own hand. It was set the the absolute the they had to give back awards because they were caught syncing, which by the way, if you consider autotune and a variety of other uh folks who do this, lip syncing is not at all rare. But the point is the moiety, the half, the remaining member, after, and I don't know how he was going to appear by himself, or maybe with somebody else stepping in, now he has stepped out. of the celebration two fifty because of course it's President Trump. Th this does not seem to be a a stellar group support. I don't know even who's playing. I have no idea. Um but it does not seem to be A list. And that's sad. That's sad because you would think at the time of the celebration of the formation of our country, you would think you would think that all of that would be put aside, but it's not. But it's not. Next, the twelve trillion dollar creative economy faces AI disruption. Ladies and gentlemen, artificial intelligence is now, as you know, transforming industries at break neck speed, breathtaking speed. But the creative sector may be among the most vulnerable. Writers, musicians, filmmakers, artists, designers, even born operators and radio engineers are confronting a future. Algorithms can replicate aspects of their work in seconds. The debate. The debate centers on whether AI will become a powerful tool that enhances creativity or A disruptive force that undermines millions of livelihoods. You have not even begun to understand what this is about. And I love this story. Legendary filmmaker Quentin Tarantino has never been shy about criticizing contemporary Hollywood. His latest observations focus on what many believe is a decline in originality, risk taking, and artistic craftsmanship. Mr. Terratino argues that franchises and corporate formulae increasingly dominate filmmaking. His comments Reignited debate about whether Hollywood sucks. And whether it has sacrificed creativity in favor of predictable profits and, dare I say, political correctness, as it were. And if you also think about this, look at the number of people, look at the number of folks who would naturally represent a uh let's say this the usual standard distribution of trans children in any population. Yet for reasons no one can figure out exactly. For reasons no one can figure out. They actually represent Oddly enough. They represent an inordinate percentage of the trans community. Think about this. If let's say one to two percent, I don't know what the figure is of trans, whatever that is, community. It is one to two percent. Let's say in the in the population as a whole. How can something like the Um the entertainment community have such an inordinately high percentage of offspring. who are themselves trans and non binary. Are we suggesting or intimating or hinting that perhaps maybe those parents were paid off, kind of coerced, cajoled, forced, perhaps maybe persuaded, to announce or to let people think of their children perhaps as being trans when they in fact are not. Or not? Or not? Interesting ponder? The answer is absolutely. Because today Hollywood is soulless. Absolutely, positively, 100% absent soul and heart. And that will be one of the reasons why they will be hoist by their own Petard. Our number is 800-848-9222. 800-848-9222 coming up. Lynn Shaw, my beloved better half, from the Lin's as we do weekend warrior series to let you know what exactly is done or not being done. in the fight against child predation. This is Lionel with you on another side of Midnight. Listen to this podcast now on the Red Apple Podcast Network. Why is the middle class shrinking? Why are people facing an affordability crisis while marginalized individuals called informals growing numbers? 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Now listen to this. New York is currently the only state in America. We're an adult. Who purchases a fifteen, sixteen, or a seventeen year old child for sex may face only a misdemeanor rather than a felony, for solicitation and the like. Now let that sink in. An adult who purchases a child for sex. It's not automatically facing felony con consequences under this loophole. Survivors, advocates, parents, and child protection organizations have spent years fighting to change this. The New York State Senate has now passed Well let me just let me just br bring her to the phone because there's We need to clarify this. Lynn Shaw, welcome again to Warrior Wednesday. What is the status regarding this as of today, because I know there was some confusion regarding the actual legislation. Well, good morning or good evening, it depends. We're doing Warrior Weekend. uh right now and what happened with this bill, uh it reached the assembly and today was the last day, right before the session's over, where we had advocates, we had people on the phones night and day just canvassing contacting Speaker Hesse's office saying what is going on here. We are the only state that is allowing this. Nobody understands why because we've asked everybody, including those in the government, those who are supposed to know why this was even allowed. with a fifteen, sixteen, or seventeen year old. I mean these are minors. Anything with a minor is against the law. Sex trafficking, sexual abuse, assault, right? Nobody has the answers for us. I just want to say one thing. I wish the public had the same enthusiasm for these issues we talk about. which are critical and crucial to safety of American kids and families. As I witnessed tonight With the Knicks. With the screaming, with the with the horn honking, with the with the taking to the streets. Uh y you know, I'm high up and I heard so much screaming uh even an hour ago people were screaming. Yes. Yet they don't. But let's let me just tell what happen today. So there was this deluge of we didn't let them go all week. contacting, contacting. Got gotta get this to a vote. Gotta get this. Now it passed out of the Senate. And I don't wanna get into all there's so many rules and regulations. It's gotta go to this committee, that committee. It ended up today uh passing into um what they call a third reading. And so People are saying it passed, but I'm here to say there has been no official announcement that it has passed. So I'm very hesitant to say, Yay, it looks very good. It's gotten to this point today and I totally think it's gotten to this point because of the public outcry. the advocates, the survivors who pushed so hard and said this cannot be. And so it does again look very good that it will pass and become law like all the other states. But you know what? I'm just gonna wait until we get the official announcement coming out of Albany with this. Now th th this is just an incredible uh aspect. The the part of us which is fascinating is why are so many people surprised when they learn about this? You know, just as an uh um as an uh an aside, this week we went to a very, very wonderful event. And you could describe that in greater detail. And whenever the subject came up regarding um trafficking in particular. Among other aspects, there's this belief that somehow this is only done. and only occurs elsewhere. Or many people I think perhaps might have been for h I don't know, hab habituated perhaps maybe by virtue of what happened with the Epstein. What is your take on this in terms of the problem that you deal with every day in trying to to kind of like guide public awareness or focus. Wake up, America. We are beyond even the awareness phase. We are in the depths of hell. I mean this because I have seen what is happening in the last one to two years. I am seeing now, Lionel, every day things being thrown, you know, from Washington, from Albany, from the predators, from the traffickers, AI. All of the big tech CEOs, you know, converging on Washington, basically running Washington, that is my opinion, I'm saying, pouring all this money into everything. So a lot of things are being overlooked. As far as the public, a couple of things. No judgment, but a little bit of judgment, you know, because people have to really wake up. They can no longer you know, it's ugly, it's dark, nobody wants to believe it. But in the meantime, we know that over half the kids are approached online. sexually. We also know about forty five percent of those approached will go out and try to meet a stranger in real time. I mean this is an American crisis. I think it is just um they just are in disbelief. And trafficking, you know, people really don't understand that word. They they I you know, it's kinda in one ear, out the other. And when I explain it to people and really break it down, they'll always say to me, which they did this week, Oh, so the children are trafficked here, they come from other countries. And I'm like, No, they're probably the house across the street from you or down the street. It's an Every community it's in every town, city, and rural area in America. It is fueled by the internet, by online, and people have to wake up. So I was even shocked this week being out. We were in a major mall this week and I was talking to a lot of people, right? walking around with kids, without kids, grandparents, parents, and they just are entirely shocked and every single person said to me, I do not know this goes on here. So we do have more groups. We do have Lens Warriors. We do have a lot more media attention. Thank goodness for you and and and for the Cats round table every Sunday giving me a platform to talk about this, but the American public has to start taking some responsibility and I'm tired of saying it's dark and it's ugly, so nobody wants to deal with it. And they better wake up because they do wake up. when something happens to their child or a member of their family. Then they're looking for help. So we want to get in there. We want to have education, prevention, intervention, and help. It is happening and only escalating. forties, fifties, older, recounting and describing how they themselves Were that. Groomed, pulled, uh And not I you know, dragooned, impressed, I don't know what the particular term is, but oftentimes by virtue of a boyfriend or someone who tells this young girl and and that's why it's critical that girls know this. that that they are if they really love their boyfriend, what is it called the Romeo uh syndrome or fact, love bombing. But the explain kind of how this works just to not to demystify it, but it makes it make so much and also explain why does this meet me uh means so much to family members and survivors. Well I want to start with, we cannot do our job you know, jobs, I should say. We we have multiple jobs at the warriors, right? There's multiple issues. All of these issues are interconnected. You can talk about domestic violence, intersects tremendously with human trafficking, with labor trafficking, which we do not talk about or focus on in this country at all, pretty much, right? Uh it's always sex trafficking. You know, because I I think media for the most part and people, there's something strange like that word sex. I'm not kidding Lyle. Like that makes them wake up a little bit or something like that. But listen, I have not been abused. I have not been trafficked. I I've had a wonderful life. So we need survivors at the table that can talk to us, can tell us if they want, right? 'Cause a lot of them don't want to talk and then a lot do. We call them survivor leaders. They guide us in what they went through. how we should be looking at these different loopholes. You know, how they were uh dealt with with law enforcement, the justice system, the public as a whole, you know, housing, all kinds of things. In the name of education, in the name of closing these loopholes so we can do better by our our kids and our teens. You know, I always say our future American adults and leaders, where are we gonna be in five years? They understand survivors. You know, the devastating and I wanna repeat this, the devastating lifelong impact sexual exploitation. You don't get saved like in the movies. You don't get rescued and your life is la la la. You know flowers and candy and you're all fine. You know what? It is a lifelong trauma. So we know and survivors know these are not victimless crimes. And many survivors have been behind what is going on in Albody. with this bill nine two one four. I want to put the number out there, A nine two one four in the assembly. Um because they know that stronger penalties, accountability sends a clearer message that children are not commodities to be bought. And so can you believe we have to talk about selling children. And that's another thing that reminds me, you know, the media a lot. the public a lot will say sex worker. They'll refer to a child, a minor. Sex worker. They'll say child prostitute. I'm here to remind everybody a child cannot consent. And that would be eighteen and under. A child cannot be called a prostitute. They cannot consent. So they are forced into this labor. This is human trafficking. So everybody should change their lingo, change, you know, the words they're using and get it straight. A child cannot be a sex worker, a child cannot be a prostitute, a child cannot consent. But you know what? Survivors and advocates, survivor advocates I should call them, um, they really have been at the forefront sharing you have to remember, they're sharing the most painful parts of their their lives, their stories. And they put themselves out there to educate the public, lawmakers, um, about the need for stronger protections. And I think everybody should really, you know, stand up, wal listen to them, and understand that these are the realities in two thousand twenty six. And we've got to start taking action. And that I mean everybody is affected by this. And also, you know, this is and we can we can talk about this another time, all of this leads to a national security threat. So if people do not understand about sex trafficking, maybe they'll understand if we frame it as a national security threat. and what what goes on with the economy and the cartels and how the cartels are at the forefront, not only with drugs, but with selling of people and especially children these days. So there's a lot going on interconnected here. You know, it's funny, whenever we talk about, by the way, we're talking to Lynn Shaw from Lin'Warriors.org. Lin's Warriors on YouTube, uh Lin's Warriors on um uh I'm sorry, Lin's Warriors.org. Right, Lin's Warriors on YouTube. And also on X at Linz underscore Warriors. You know, I want to bring also kind of a circle back a little bit You know, as we are ready for this absolute traffic in media and this this FIFA World Cup explosion. As we speak. Traffickers are getting ready. to be able to have teams, their wares, their There th this is terr there's another team out there teams. Ready to satisfy people who are gonna be moving in, coming into the US, who by the way believe that this is a free for all. country where the the rules don't apply. That's one consideration, and you're dealing very closely with law enforcement. Then you have just regular family members who are affected, and then To make it even more complicated, individuals who find themselves in the grips of just this this weird, strange whole that that um the the the the media and um uh digital uh uh luring takes place. Kids who are committing suicide. I mean when you get into this And most people would have no idea. If they say, you know, I wanna and I've heard them say this to you, I wanna uh uh you know, help you. I wanna volunteer. And you always say, Are you sure? Do you really know what you're talking about? Isn't it from a personal point of view, and I know The answer, but isn't it just overwhelming when you see what is being done to kids on a regular basis, you wonder, do we share the same DNA with these people? First of all, I wanna say something. I I when I when I woke up one day and turned to you years ago and said, I want to be a warrior and you didn't know what I was even talking about because I I had this kind of vision in in my sleep because I realized everybody must become a warrior in their own home and community. That's where it starts. So I named everything Lynn's Warriors 'cause that's what I train everybody and educate. You've gotta be it in your own home, your own community, with your own family and friends. Let's let's put that aside for a minute. Th the work goes, you know, I'm going twenty hours a day. I am passionate, I will never stop uh mentoring young people, bringing them, you know, you know, in into the fold uh correctly. All of this stuff, right? But sometimes and I I think you've seen me do it, I stop. Because if there's something about a baby, right? Or the and I say how morally In America. anywhere but I'm gonna w I work in America. That is my focus right here at home is where we need the help, okay? And I say, How can these people walking down the street, who's abusing children? Or I count children even sometimes on the street. And I get to eight 'cause it's like one in eight, one in seven children are abused. And I say that child's abused. And I say, how can this be in our country? And we keep talking about it. There are solutions, okay? We need the resources. We need to let law enforcement do their jobs, be armed with the tech. There are tech pro you know, uh there is technology that can help with all of this. Just think about searching these, you know, uh URLs, searching uh that used to take man hours, hours and hours and hours, right, of this manpower to keep do they can do in minutes now. And yet we have to fight because law enforcement tells me all the time we don't have the resources for the technology. It's the most ridiculous thing to root out these people hurting our babies and our children. Thus hurting our families, our society, our country. And it's just allowed to go on. Why do we have to fight so hard? And a reminder, everybody, that this is bipartisan. It really does not belong. We talk about Albany and Washington and all that. It belongs to no political party. Everybody should get on board and standing in the streets like they did tonight for the Knicks and say, We're not t we're not having this anymore. We are not allowing our kids to be abused and everybody's closing their eyes. That could create change, okay? Starting with giving budgets and resources to law enforcement. who could help with this. And let's talk about this World Cup, because this has been with law enforcement three years in the making. When I met with New Jersey State Troopers in Washington and they told me we're working on this now. I said, Really? They said we have to prepare and by the way, they are being called out for being uh New York, New Jersey the best prepared. from what I'm hearing across the country. And understanding they said they told me people are gonna block in from all these other countries and their thinking is it is such a free for all here. We can do anything we want to any kid any woman, any man, we can steal, we can do drugs, we can sexually exploit. That is the thinking now about our America. Do you know, Lionel, how shameful that is? How shameful. So I just want to say law enforcement is prepared for this. We've got the Air B and B, we've got the ride shares, we've got the hotels, the motels, we've got um uh we've got the boots on the ground. So I think there is so much more awareness and that reminds me if you are going to any of these matches, if you see something, if you just think Be very aware, everybody, when you go in bathrooms. That's where a lot of exchanges happen, okay? You will not be, you know, held responsible. Go up to a police officer, somebody you see in security, and report it right away. Better to be wrong. Okay? You kinda know in your gut when something doesn't look right, 'cause people tell me constantly, Oh, I thought that was something uh, but I didn't want to get involved. We must. We must because again, we even have an uptick in kids Teen's being snatched. in broad daylight off the streets across America. Now nobody's really talking about that one. I feel like I'm the only one talking about it. Where now somebody will say I want a fifteen year old blonde girl and a strange car will drive up, you know, somebody's walking home from school and try to force them into the car. So we gotta teach our kids now, like stranger danger and I kid you not. You know, you gotta scream your head off, you gotta kick and you gotta run. The screaming will alarm them. Most of the time they'll take off and look very sad for me to say this, a more vulnerable victim. So everybody has to wake up. We are surrounded by this, okay? And people don't have that luxury anymore closing their eyes and saying, Not my child, my child would never do that. That won't happen to our household. Because you know what? It's happening in the poor, vulnerable neighborhoods. It's happening in the rich, what we'll consider rich neighborhoods, okay? It is happening all over, and the predators are laughing at us. I also want to uh by the way, we're talking again to Lynn Shaw from Lynn's Warriors dot org. Lin's Warriors on YouTube and Lin's Warriors on X. Um the other night we were at an event, I found this is very interesting, we were at an event involving child trafficking. And uh I was um Talking to a woman very, very uh nice, very intelligent. And we were just just chatting. And I I I'm still thinking about this. I made the statement, without any exceptions, as I am wont to do. I speak very uh forcefully regarding things that I believe in. And I said, You know, it's very interesting. I said, when will people realize That they should not be putting pictures of their family members on um Social media. And this woman looking like said, What? Yes, I said, No pictures. Well what what a age? I said, never. And I said, Well what do you mean? I said, let me uh see if I can explain this. Why do you want to put pictures of your ch And this is where the the look came. Why do you want to have pictures of your child? on on social media. Why? And the you d the child can't consent. And it's because I realized because people don't even think about it. You mentioned this one time and you haven't talked about this in a while, but there were people who actually would say, give me Go get this child. I know where the child lives. I know everything about the child. In fact, if you if you do any amount of due diligence, you could find out the child's nickname. The new pet. the fact that the brother lost his front teeth. So if you were to lure groom, you know about things. Even pe family members who put the names of their graduating students, their their children, on the front lawn. Little Tabitha, Mikaela, congratulations. Oh you got a girl there, seventeen or eighteen and they look at me like I'm sick. I'm thinking no, you're a fool. You don't know how dangerous this is. That's what I'm going to say because remember it started with MySpace. Then we went into Facebook, connect with family and friends and and and fellow universities and all that stuff. It started out very cute, right? It was an it was a novelty. We all then comes along in two thousand eight or so the iPhone. Everybody, every every kid wanted an iPhone for a gift. The grandparents were buying them, the parents were buying them. We we didn't think twice. I say we collectively, America, okay? We didn't know, okay, we've been lured into this, we've been fooled into this. But Here's the thing. Now we know. Now we have thirty years later, because everything started in about nineteen ninety six. We have studies. We have, you know, teachers coming out. We have mental health professionals and doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists. We have all of this information, yet it's getting worse. That's the part Lionel I do not understand. I do not understand. And the thing about the pictures is so horrible because right now with AI virtually and I got three reports today. And these uh happen to be men. And actually they happen to have decent jobs and they are creating A I this child sexual abuse material, C SAM, we call it, right? We don't say Kitty porn anymore, everybody. That's over with. It's much more descriptive to say child sexual abuse material, okay? So these three men again, seemingly, you know, kinda normal and good jobs. We're creating this content and using AI and taking kids pictures off the internet. So you know, we've given it away. So it's it's time. It's overdue to take it back. Do not put pictures of children online. You don't know those once kids will say to me even, you know, I deleted it. And I'm like, no, once it's there, it is never gone. It's in that cloud. Somebody has taken it. People have to wake up to this. This is and and I also think because it has become so normalized, all this sexual stuff now and and you know sites like OnlyFans Just everybody's become habituated. People who wouldn't even try this stuff this is what I think are now trying it. Again because there's no consequences pretty much. There's no accountability. Which is why in New York State not to be a felony, to rape a fifteen year old girl Who creates these laws? So that the only way you can have accountability is the public. You know groups of Liz Warriors. We push back. We don't let them get away with it. We educate the public, but we can't do it alone. We need everybody to help us. You don't want it to be your daughter or done. You know, we don't even talk about the boys and men in sex trafficking because it's like that's kind of a no no. It's like they're embarrassed, they don't come forward. That's a real uptick in all of that. So society as a whole, look at the way we're treating our people. Who thought you could buy and sell human beings? We have more slavery today in the United States than any other time in history and it's getting worse. And people just don't want to recognize it. I didn't answer your question before. What we have also is this Romeo effect. So a lot of Yeah. And women also are, you know, getting fooled by a boyfriend, seeking love, seeking attention, and they think they found the perfect mate. Because they tell me this, it's the same story over and over again. And it could be good for a month or so. And then it's always the same thing. If you love me, you'll just do this once. My friend likes you. Will you just do this? I'm a little short on the car payment, a little short on the on the rent. And because this girl or woman thinks she's in love, she does it and she knows it's wrong, but she does it. Okay? And then they get sucked into this abuse and trafficking. And that is a very common thing. And we have boys as young as fourteen doing this to to girls their own age because they're learning everything on the internet. They're seeing everything and it's not even the kids' fault because we have the algorithms. We know from whistleblowers. We know from the studies that have come out, the internal memos from these big tech companies and all of them. We talk about meta a lot. Lionel, it is every one of them. They are feeding our kids the algorithms for pornography, for all of this, so the kids are seeing all this. Right, and that's where we have to draw the line and we have to say enough and if that means a piece of legislation, we are not taking away anybody's freedoms because people fight me on this all the time, First Amendment rights. Where are the uh rights for children? That's what I want to know. So if it takes a piece of legislation like the Kids Online Safety Act, Senate version seventeen forty eight. That's what we have to do. And that's what our president has to work on. And that's what we should be talking about. Not all these other issues. I'm sorry, I know people like sports, you know, the Nicks and things like that. But my goodness, that we have to keep talking about this. and people are denying it or say that doesn't happen or when you're lying. Absolutely not. So we invite everybody to join us. You know, you can write to us as Warriors, get some information, learn about this. Talk your kids. You know, find out what's going on in their schools. Ask their teachers what you know, what are you teaching with AI? Wha what are what are the resources you're using? People have to wake up. We're into prevention now, intervention, okay? So educate yourself. It's really educate yourself and talk to your kids about trafficking. It is here. You can't you know, people say, I don't wanna open up a can of worms. they'll start looking at pornography. I'm like they're looking at it already because it's on the exact leader. Share survivor stories and advocacy efforts. Because get involved in initiatives. Every community has something going on. And we'll be happy. Write to me Linnitlands Warriors dot org. I will direct you what's happening in your neighborhood where you can get involved. It ultimately Lionel comes down to one question. How serious are we in America about our children? Survivors have spoken, families have spoken, advocates have spoken. The Senate has acted now on this assembly uh Bill nine two one four. We're hoping it does Get past. I think it will. Everybody's talking about it because we believe every child deserves protection, dignity, and the opportunity to grow up free from exploitation. Kids are not commodities, they're not products. X or what we used to call Twitter, Lin I mean, at Lin's, I'm saying at Linz underscore Warriors. Thank you, per usual. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Again, you make Warrior Weekend, Warrior, Warrior Weekend so special. I love you and I thank you and we will Talk again. Thank you, Lionel. I love you too. Thank you. More coming up on another side of Midnight with everything and anything. Please join us. I cannot wait to hear from you. We'll go to the phones next, whether you like it or not. More coming up, stay tuned. Already lined up with you. Our number's eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. You know, years ago there was a story, you've heard it about Mahandas Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi to some, who said you could tell about a society by the way they treat their animals. I thought how quaint. I think there's a corollary to that. I think we should have come first. You could tell about a society by how they treat their children. And if that's true, we are doomed. We're depraved. You know, whenever we talk about this, people have to say, you know, we're a good people. Man is basically good. No it's not. No it's not. The people that you consider to be good I mean there are some, but for the most part, most people are just not bad. They're not good. They don't go out of their way to be benevolent, beneficent, charitable, philanthropic. Most people just don't do bad things. And that's a big deal. Let's go quickly to Dave in West Pennsylvania. Get ready for this one, my friend. Get ready. Um did you and uh Walter Sterling uh receive my postcard in the mail. I want to get into other things. It was sent to what is it, Red Apple Media Gay first of all, I want to thank you so much. Because and I appreciate I want you to call me again because Dave, nobody can kill the course of a show better than you. They call you the assassin. Thank you, Dave. Call me again. You can go in and literally, in just a couple of sentences, basically rip out the very fun, the excitement. The focus, the plan, the course, in just one abstruse reference that no one And I mean literally no one cares about. And I thank you for that. It takes a real talent. In fact, you're good. You're the desiccator. You suck out and dry out everything that is of any put it this way, you take the moisture of excitement out of the range of this. And I thank you, my friend. Fantastic. You're very good. Now coming up, we have so much to discuss regarding the world of AI and also the decline of of of our civilization. Also, Scott Pelly and the hubris the hu this hubristic unearned certitude that these people have regarding such relics as sixty minutes, which went out when Mike Wallace died. Isn't this fascinating? how this is changing and also how the most important aspect what we used to be so proud of We were so proud of years ago. of Hollywood and now it's just reduced to nothing. We'll talk about that and also so many other things in terms of the depravity of human beings, in in addition to other things as well, and your call. And by the way, if you can think of a way to destroy the focus and the direction of a show Good as our first or as well as our first caller, please do give it a shot at eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two We'll also talk about this. For the first person who can explain this quiz. What is bread and circenses? What is the concept of bread panum et circensis? Uh who said it? What does it mean and what is the relationship of it vis a vis the uh various goings on as to the um the Nicks. It's a very interesting concept. And also Із Америка Фіст. Dream. Does that mean anything? And is it wrong? For a society to say hey us first. Then the rest of the world next. Stuff. So much stuff. And I have preparing all week. Taking some of the greatest questions. putting them together to explain to you how There are stories that have been going on in the world that nobody is talking about. And I think one of the reasons why And I think it's very simple. is that most news programming is is really written and deals with maybe an eighth grade level at the best. They are minimalistic, they are psychologically uh dense. and intellectually vapid. And I think that explains everything. Oh we have so much, my friends. 800-848-9222. And as I said, we love your calls. Oh my God, do we love them? Because there's the spark. They're the reason God made Oklahoma, as the great David Frizo said. 800-848-9-222, or coming up on the other side, on, excuse me, on another side of Midnight with me, Lionel. Stay tuned. line up with you and this is hour number two. Hour number two of these. Thing of hours, another side of midnight, eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. By the way, extra credit for the worst caller of the evening. And I think we have a winner so far. I think we can just stop the contest. all together, I think we have a winner. You know, during the week I keep track of all these wonderful stories. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this up and I'm gonna bring this up. And I I end up not bringing up really much of anything because There's just so much out there. And again, I the reason why I cannot listen to conventional uh news uh platforming is because i it's it's so inane because of the stuff that's really, I mean, absolutely cataclysmic in terms of our society. And I'm not trying to say that to be to be uh exaggerating. But again, people are also the way the news media treats you is like you're a th like you're in the eighth grade. The stories are stupid, they're lame, and they're written by people who don't really know much of anything. And one of the things which is very interesting is the idea of AI. And nobody really is they're not even approximating how that thing works. And this past week we had this this this oh my God, this pompous, this arrogant, this bombast. This news dastard, Scott Pelly, who thinks Who thinks for some reason that he calls the shots. That sixty minutes belongs to him. That there is a sixty minutes. That people care about sixty minutes. I'm not trying to discount it. But if you go through if if if you think you're going to make headway. By regurgitating and resuscitating things that have been around. And if your idea of programming is just to reiterate nostalgia, stuff that you listen, I thought there was some stuff years ago that was kind of groovy. But I'm not gonna put it on a radio station now because it has no relevance. And I love the I love the give me an example. I love hypocrisy. Right now, as you know, one of the biggest stories that's going we'll put it this way, what's going on in the world of of you know, news platforming on on the internet compared to conventional is night and day. Night and day. And one of the stories was they had this um uh Candace Owens, who was of course the firebrand. Excuse me. She went to uh Russia with her husband, Saint Petersburg, and lo and behold, she was invited to this uh Saint Petersburg International Economic Forum. It's kind of like the the uh Russian version of Davos. And everybody from all over the world was every conceivable country and culture. It was it was incredible and so articulate. So oh I mean, my God, I just it it made me cry because When I hear and I'm not mentioning any names, but when I hear a lot of the people who represent our government from time to time, they sound like morons. Sad to say, it breaks my heart. There was a time and we had just just people, just just regular politicians who every time they spoke, it wasn't that they were stentorian, but they would they were just far more intelligent. In any event. So they said, Of course, we have this ridiculous this it was this fine defined, in fact she defined it as a Cold War hangover. This rusophobic nonsense. When people continue to refer to Russia as somehow this they're evil. The evil empire. Say enough of this. What are you talking about? What what What p what century are you in? And we're not gonna get to the bottom of anything if we keep the with this Boris and Natasha nonsense. So anyway, so the state was the question was this there's lunatic by the name of Laura Loomer. I mean absolutely just non compass mentis. She suggested that somehow she should be arrested by I don't know homeland security or whatever. Anyway, so I, in my particular additional circle, said when Sean Penn went to Ukraine And brought his Oscar, I don't know if he left it with him or just brought him to show it. Brought his Oscar to meet with Zelensky. that Coke addled thug who, by the way, has drained us from what exactly? I have no idea. A man, by the way, who was created by a fellow named Kolomoysky. whose claim to fame was and let me see if I can say this in a nice way. Keeping in mind this is a family show. Playing the keyboards with his phallus. At least this was the act, whether he was or wasn't, different story. This is the lower this is the person that Sean Penn went and bowed and scraped before, along with Ben Stiller. and many, many people believe that it was part and parcel of this old US aid debt that he owed regarding his dubious work in Haiti. Along with interestingly enough I remember Oprah and her school. And speaking of uh speaking of how about the the uh uh the orphanage that Erica Kirk was responsible with in Romania. And you see a lot of people and I'm not one of them, but some people suggest that look no further than Orphanages to find the the heart of trafficking. And again, let other people decide that. I'm just telling you. So nobody ever talked about that. Nobody ever asks any questions about what are we doing. And the ultimate The ultimate story was this is the one that absolutely got me. Jane Fonda. Remember the story of Hannoy Jane. Remember this. Hannoy Jane. She goes to Vietnam, meets with NVA. and she came in, rumors have it, suggested that she was given notes from POWs to give or to to to bring home or to uh to to either let their family members know And what did she do? It was reported and heavily rumored that she turned them in. This was Jane Fonda. And now she is the darling of the left. Nobody suggested charging her with treason. Nobody. Nobody. This is a woman this is her nineteen seventy two trip to North Vietnam. Let me just repeat this. A number of former American POWs, military personnel, later allege that prisoners gave Fonda secret messages, slips of paper or appeals to to bring back to their families. And what she allegedly turn or she allegedly turned those materials over to North Vietnamese authorities. And this is they say some of these never happened or they weren't substantiated because they do everything they can to to to to protect her, to defend her. Nobody said anything. The hypocrisy. I don't know about you, but I'm of the firm belief that when it comes to anything involving foreign policy, one of the reasons why we we do what we do is because we don't know anything about each other. It's just another example. And if I were to go and if I wanted to go and learn things. Where do I go? Have you ever heard anybody in the in the world of conventional News explaining SciAps to you? How Intel agencies work? Of course not. Are you kidding me? You know the the um the uh uh no kings of these ridiculous I don't even know what the these events, these parades. they are rumored to be and suspected to be psyops, psychological operations. And the reason why we know this is because nothing is ever asked. There are no demands that are made. Nothing. Nothing. There are no demands. And what's really interesting about this whole thing is that whenever you see this, whenever there's when it when people march and they don't do anything to say, we want this, this, or this, and it's not made, the idea is merely to stir discontent. Because the notion of the PSYOP, the limited hangout, all of these all of these aspects. Here we go, here's some other great, great news. This this just absolutely kills. Did you know that this is important, and I mentioned this before, that this Nantucket church canceled The fourth of July celebration is in political protest because of their own whiteness. Do you think we're ever going forget artificial intelligence. What about just intelligence? There's a story this week that said that AI is escaping human control. Bots are now outnumbering people online. Autonomous laboratories are outsourcing work to robots. Feds are taking equity stakes in top AI companies. And then we get into this one. They're saying that the notion of men men are failing at manhood due to financial strains. What does this mean? What does this even mean? Also, why is young America trending socialist? Why? I hear more people lament and talk here locally about Zoran Mamdani. Oh the jokes are just plentiful, and many of them are deserved. And they mock him and he's this and he's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. He's a lefty, or he's a Marxist, or a communist, or whatever it is. And he's not. He is a he's he's a he's a welfare. policy, he's not smart enough to be any of the f there' there's no planned economy. There's doesn't even it doesn't even it doesn't even a address the basic elements of socialism. Doesn't even get close to it. I mean it d if if people think doing what he's doing is socialism, you don't know what socialism is. It's even less of that. In fact, I know people who are socialist who actually despise having him being called one of them. The point of the matter is simply this. We need to sit down and ask young people, why do you like him? And recently we had I had the chance to be around a very, very talented young lady, very smart. very go getter, great in school, terrific academics, just wants to go out and you know just really be either law or politics or public policy. I thought this is terrific. And I made the I ask. What do you think of Zoran Mamdani? Love him. Really why? He's so charismatic. He's so dynamic. And I love he's got new ideas. Okay. Now I could have said, What are you stupid? I could've used the R word. I could have done a lot of things. What are you nuts? But I thought no. I said, Tell me more And as I was talking and said, what exactly, what policy has he, or any of his particular democratic socialists or whatever what have they ever said, any policy that he has ever said that you find the most interesting? Or productive, or hopeful, or promising. Couldn't answer the question. And I ain't going for the kill. I didn't say, listen, you stupid kid, you don't know any better. I said, What about free buses? Remember that one? Yeah. Whatever happened to that? How about free food? Remember the stores? You know they're not free food, right? Yeah. What about pushing the people out? billionaires of New York City. What does that do? Look what they're doing in look at Mikey, by the way, Mikey Sheryl in in New Jersey might might break all records for this. My point is simply this. Із критику форс. Critical for us as as the adults in the room. to train. to explain to the future. This is what you need to some of these ideas that you might consider to be antediluvian, you know, archaic, ossified, whatever it is. They make sense. And let me explain this to you, especially if you want to go out in the world. That's what we need to do. When I return from this commercial interruptus We're gonna be going to the calls and taking your calls and again make them good. Make us weep and make us think. This is Lionel with you, on another side of midnight. Mark me about that. Still trying to whole notion of Milli Vanilli. Milli vanilli. Who came up with Milli Vanilli? Is this a joke? Seriously, I I was watching a show called Breaking Point or whatever. There's a it's very it's very good uh uh show on the uh internet as it were. And this fr this fellow named Sager and and Jeh He never heard, never heard of Millie Vanille. I'm thinking, dear God. Am I it's not that I'm that old, but how can you not have heard? of certain things. That's the point that gets me. In any event, my friend, that's the but that's the best part about having lived during these wonderful times. And let's go back to the phones. Let's see if we can muster up a call that's somewhat even remotely remotely lucid. Remotely let's go to Mark in New York. Mark You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Yeah, Mark in Aurora, Illinois, but that's okay. Um Red and Circuses was the title of a Star Trek episode from the original series, and it was based on a planet that had twentieth century technology coupled with a Roman lifestyle. And when I looked up spread of the circuses it was called a mesonymic phrase, which means the meaning over the meaning. And it means to superficially appease And the Star Trek episode that would fit that because Now I don't want to I don't want to interrupt, which I am. But you are you refer to bread and circuses, Panam at circens? From the Star Trek? How about the Roman poet Juvenile? Yeah, that's true. But it's not. It was used as a but it was used as a Star Trek title. Well what if it was the title of a Donny and Marie song? I mean so what? You mean the the point is I think the historic reference It's not Star Trek. Boy, you and I are from different frames of reference. Okay, I realize I realise it's your job to be a contrarian on the air, but Oh no, no, no, no, no. No no but for you to go to Star Trek This we've this was the government's this we've this is juvenile said, this is the government's practice Of keeping the public distracted. politically passive by providing entertainment and spectacle and Material coverage. Okay, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Let me try this again. I am offended that you would bring up Star Trek? This versus the original. That's like if I were to say, how about do one to others? Oh, the golden rule, the the uh the Christ uh uh you know sermon. No, it was a it was an uh it was a Dick Van Dyck episode. What? In ancient Rome, free grain or bread and and lavish, you know, public entertainments such as gladiator games and chariot races and festivals, you know, the circuses. Juvenal argue that citizens who once cared about liberty and self government had become more interested in food and amusement. hence the reference to the Nick game. The Nick title, tribalism. And today the phrase is used to, you know, criticize modern politics and media and culture when people and corporations and others use this to kind of divert attention. See, that's the part about it which is so interesting. Not a Star Trek episode. Granted, that was an episode to be sure. But you gotta ask yourself this question. Do we care more about things that really don't matter? Let me tell you something. If you want to see the best coverage of anything on any kind of radio, listen to any, and I mean any sport show because you better really know the topics. If you don't, you're off. You could go on any for example, if you were to do regular news commentary on some media platforms, conventional media platforms, terrestrial and the like, you don't have to know the news at all. You don't have to know history, the news. All you have to do are a couple of headlines, repeat the popular Convention and conviction and you're off and running. Uh let's go to uh let's go to Allen on Long Island. Alan you're on another side of midnight with Lionel. Well hi uh uh Lionel, I love your show. Uh yes very commanded uh I one thing I learned in life is never uh argue with a Twilight Zone groupie or a Star Trek groupie. I I learned that when I was very young. But um you talked about like Yeah, different people, Jane Fonda. Uh Jone Bay is no one talks about her trip to Vietnam. She was there during December of nineteen seventy two, and at the same time she got there. Uh Nixon was flying the B fifty twos over there and she like kinda got trapped in there. So uh people are just a a May I make a distinction, however. May I make a distinction? There's one thing to appear. And to play music. And maybe if your idea was to maybe find the humanity of a combatant, okay, fine. It might be ill timed. But Jane Fonda. Went out of her way where to wear the hat to sit. In an anti aircraft. Uh weapon. to mimic what it was like to shoot down American tr I mean, do do you this this was just in this was giving aid and comfort to the enemy. You're actually and if it's true about them her about her tr they many uh people suggest is true, but that when she was given slips of paper showing the names of these people that she turned them in. Uh I don't know. By the way, remember Edith Piaf, the great um French chantus, you know, the singer Edith Piaf, you you know who I'm talking about, right? Yes. Okay. During during her uh c v uh uh efforts When she was meeting with uh sometimes she would appear in um N not in prisoner war, but in prisoner situations and and they would allow her to sing for the for the men. She always made sure that she took pictures. And she said, I want to take pictures with you all so that she could go home and show the family members. I mean she was a real patriot. So what I'm just doing is, look, all I know is if somebody goes, We are not at war with Russia. We're not at war with China. We are not at war with a lot of places, even though perhaps it might be bombing. When you selectively allow certain forms of behavior to be allowed to to be accepted, that's another story. You understand, my friend? Yes, I agree with that totally. And it the you know, the the book on Vietnam it will never be written. It's an open book. It's gonna continue. Uh let's face it. What about the the donut girls that were in Vietnam, right? She they gave aid and comfort to our boys and stuff and they never talked about those girls were factors. How many eighteen year old girls would fly into a into a war zone, right? They weren't trained for that. But they were gave great comfort to our American boys over there. Uh I was just talking about the timing of J. No, I agree one hundred percent. I find that also fascinating and I thank you so much for your call, dear friend. Let's go instead to uh let's go to uh Jim in New York. Jim here on another side of midnight with Lionel. Hey, good morning, Lionel. I originally my call's about AI and child tra sex trafficking, but I really wanna thank you for dispatching the caller from Western Pennsylvania as quick as you did. He is like a ice pick to the temple. He calls Doctor Sky, but Doctor Sky's a a little more eloquent and a gentleman. He let him go on a little bit. Oh no no I can't do that. There should be a chamber in hell for the despicable that you skip the lake of fire and you have to live the caller from Western Pennsylvania. Dante Allighari I think would reconsider You know, the the uh his his um his version of of of hell. In any event. In any event, sir. Talk about AI and the like sir. Well what a people who realize the power of Aw A I and you know like TikTok. I've seen I've seen grown men staring at young girls doing sexy dances on TikTok. It's like home shopping club for children. You know, who who's to say that Down the road that you know, first of all China I don't know how they're they're still trying to safeguard TikTok, but China's still, I guess, in charge of TikTok. Who's to say they can't back engineer geolocating with uh AI to find out where these little girls are? You know, doing these sexy little things. Exactly right. Let me give you another consideration. This is another consideration which I've been talking about forever. Let's assume somebody were to take An AI creation that looks so real. Either either in movie form or photograph. depiction that would be considered C Same trial sexual abuse material. What used to be called kitty porn. I mean, but it's just absolut it it's just revolting beyond anything you can imagine. But imagine it's not true. It's not real. It's not it's not real. Now, if you are in possession of that, let's say the police come and they'll say, Look at this, he downloaded this. And you say, But it's not real. It's in essence a computer painting. It's a depiction. It is a thought. It is a thought. that someone came up with that has been reduced to this What do you think we should do with somebody in possession of of a of of an event or an activity if if it were actual would be subject to criminal sanction. How do we do that? How do we address that? You know, I make it to say it's not real. The content is real, but the you know, I mean the you know, what it is you know, what it portrays is real, but the content is a thought. Exactly. You can't prosecute someone for Exactly. You know, a step further. You have a um let's say you have uh a daughter and your daughter Is the subject of a deep fake. in which she is depicted as doing something um you know horrible. But it didn't happen. It's not real. And it's called a deep fake. It's known to be a deep fake. Nobody believes it's just embarrassing. Now What is that called? What do you deal with that? What do you do that? And I've asked friends of mine lawyer for the All they gotta do is change a feature a little tiny bit and they say, Oh, that's not really her, it just looks like her. You know what I mean? Well, these fake YouTube vid these these fake AI YouTube videos that are on there. On Facebook reels also. What happens now? What do we do? Let's say your son, your your f teenager is brought into the school, is about to be expelled or charged criminally, and your son created one of these, but it's not real. What do you what do you call it? Here's what I suggest. I believe that we should advance a civil towards a civil remedy of an extension of libel. It's defamation. It is creating the defamation is a false statement. that brings ignominy, shame, appropriate, defamation, uh damages. And this is a false statement. That causes embarrassment. It's almost like the intentional infliction of emotional distress. I'm trying to use accepted Uh Actual civil causes of action. The thing is, remember Lionel's rule, the law always lags behind technology. We don't know what to do with Let me go a step further. You're a smart man. Not like James in Pennsylvania, but then they get who wins. Let's imagine this. You decide to clone yourself. Let's assume it's available. You take an egg, human ovum, you evacuate it, replace it with your DNA, zap it with electricity, blah blah blah, you get a good embryo, it grows, you put them into a woman, to a donor, you know, surrogate, whatever it is, and your clone is born. Okay. You're in the hospital. They bring you your clone. Now, the woman or the agent comes around and says, We'd like you to fill out the information here. What's the child's name? And you have a name. Could be your name, somebody else's name. Who are the child's parents? What would you write down for your clone? Who is your clothes? Who are your clones' parents? Here's the thing with a clone also You're right, that's a are your clones parents. You don't know you're right. That's the area where it No. No, think about My parents' parents. Yeah I'm the one. No no no no no no no your parents Okay. Who put together parents are people. Parents are the people that put together the clone. No, you might say But here's the thing with a clone AI it doesn't have a soul or a conscience. No wait a minute, we're not done yet. We're not done yet. We're not done yet. Now in the course of this hypothetical, you're in this hospital and you say, you know what, I don't want to pay for this kid. I changed my mind. I'm getting out of here. And they bring child support. One of the things that you have to do when you prove child support is Paternity. This is the only legal way where we acknowledge any kind of responsibility. Paternity. But you say, but I'm not the father. We're gonna do a test. I can tell you right now, it's me. I don't know. None of these things apply. Now, one thing you say about it doesn't have a soul. What does that mean? What does it mean it doesn't have a soul? And an atheist doesn't believe that. So we you both cancel each other out. So what does that mean? The atheist says, I'm fine with this, or let's say a Buddhist who is really technically a non theist, same thing. And um uh the the a a Christian could say, Well It this is not a child of God. It's it's completely okay not to have a soul. God didn't make it. Only humans have souls that God makes. God didn't make this. I don't see any problem with that. So what does this mean? You don't recognize it? It doesn't what does that mean? What is this thing? These these are the dangerous areas we get into with technology, like AI. Let's get into it. Go deeper. Don't skirt the issue. What are we supposed to do? Let me give you another example. If we had if theoretically We had had Uh Neandertals still around. Let's just assume. We would have a sub a an inferior form of humanity. They would be the workers, the laborers. It's a caste system you can't even imagine. Forget racism. This is even it's not even it's not even in your species. But why is human Why is the human mind, the soul, creativity, human reactions, why are they so great? What is so terrific about a human being? And I'm not kidding. Look at the world right now. Look at what's going on. Tell me how great humans are. Look at all the crime, all the disease, all of the war, the death, the carnage, from serial killers to drug addicts to the abuse What is so great about humans? But What are we so terrific with our soul? Go ahead, make your case. What's so terrific about humans? It's the it's it's it's how God created us. It's the battle of good and evil. We've we've been answering my question out of good No well what's so great about humans and the soul I mean you as a as a Christian you I I feel I have a conscience and I have a soul to do the right thing. And when you don't This doesn't, as a Christian, this doesn't negate your belief at all. Nobody is saying don't believe in humans. No, sta keep everything you're thinking. Don't lose don't change one thing. Now, I'd like to introduce you. His name is Larry, and this is a clone. What are you gonna do with him? Now if he doesn't have a soul, can you kill him? Again, uh areas that we haven't addressed yet that are have gray areas that could be debated on either. If it was the Anders, they would be like the draft horses of society. Yeah, that's we would be using them by. Right. But let me ask you this question. What is the w what is this thing about humans that are so and I and and I know the answer, but nobody really wants to address this. Let me tell you what the answer is. We have this wonderful thing that I think I think It's kind of unique to us. Maybe not be but it but it works like this. We have a thing called judgment, compassion, mercy, uh And we also have things like hatred, jealousy, we have other stuff too. But let me give you an example. Let's assume that you are a um An AI doctor. And this person comes to you. and you look at him and say, Okay, this woman has stage what or four cancer. Uh I suggest eroticobastectomy, uh chemo and radiation, and I said, Excuse me, Mr. AI, this woman's ninety years old. She just is not gonna live much longer. Her quality of life is gonna be hard. She might not be able to even even survive the operation, much less all this other stuff. Don't you think there should be more of a palliative care Don't you think b humanity would require and he look at you like I don't know what the hell you're talking about. What do you mean? I'm AI. I answered your question. Let's go a step further. Let's assume you're an AI judge, or AI you're the sentencing judge. And there's a woman who for the her whole life married to this clown, this animal, has beaten her, raped her, discussed and she's only staying there because of her kids and she's a fair one day she freaks out. She just takes a gun and blows this guy away. provoke she just snaps. I give your this case to an AI judge. AI judges nope First degree murder, sentencer. And you say, Wait a minute. Don't you know about compassion? Don't you know AI says no, I don't know what that is. Judgment, compassion, uh Experience Uh empathy, sympathy. That's one thing I don't know if we can do I don't think we're gonna see that. That's the only thing good that humans have is when you can say, I'm only human, but to show this humanity. Because when man is good, we're great. When we show empathy and sympathy, I think we're we're magnificent. I don't know how often that happens, but when it happens, it's terrific. So we're one one step further. There is a as you know, um uh M Magnuson, what's his name is is the goat, the uh the uh great chess player. Um Marcus, whatever Magnus. Anyway. He's the greatest chess player alive today. He's the goat. I hate to use that term. But he is the best, the best of it. And He is he can play ten, fifteen, twenty people backwards, uh, upside down, blindfolded. Okay. There is a thing right now. There is a plain old program that's in your phone. And it is Probably the most incredible thing. Yeah, Magnus Carlson excuse me. thinking my friend Mark Magnuson from Rascals, isn't he, but Magnus Carlson. Now Magnus Carlson He's about thirty Six years old, I guess. Computer in his phone is better than he is. But yet we want to see humans play chess. There are devices and bulldozers that could pick up thousands and thousands of pounds, but we want to see a human being do a bench press. Will you wanna ever listen to a talk radio show that's with AI? Would you? No. I mean that wasn't that a few a few years back wasn't that the big screen actors killed the other the writers. They went on strike over AI before it was even a big topic with the rest of the general population. That's for writing and that's for c score storylines. But if I had if this was a human this was a generated voice and I was really good. And I mean really and I knew everything because I'm an AI voice. But you knew. You knew. That it wasn't real. And you couldn't get me mad. And if I seem to get mad, you couldn't hear like a Bob Grant, I got off my phone. You wouldn't believe it. You would say, ah, it's programmed to do that. Would it work? I don't know. Music other than people would care. If it became the new normal. You know what I mean? If if that's your new normal. Then it would work. It is what it is. This is all I got. This is all I got. This is what I'm gonna listen to. Yeah. And if you're raised in captivity and you don't know better, you see these are the things we're gonna have to ask ourselves. You know, let me tell you something, Jim, for a guy named Jim You're pretty good. You know that I mean that sincerity. Don't ever change it. The AI thing has already started. I just read a statistic where Uh companies are down thirty percent um hiring new grads. Because they could they're they're eliminating all the entry level jobs with AI. You know, I feel these kids graduating college now and I feel sorry for them. They have no idea what they're walking into. It's just the baby steps of AI. Yeah. Exactly. Jim, thank you, my friend. Let's go to Eduardo, who is in a body of water called the Tampa Bay. He is in the bay itself. Eduardo, how are you, sir? Yeah, Lina, hello. Well in um Probably about seven hours I'm gonna be at the uh Ram and James stadium. They're playing a new uh England versus New Zealand. Um it's a friendly scrimmage, it's not part of the World Cup. But uh they'll be playing that uh today. Are you a soccer fan? Are you a soccer uh fan? Kinda. Um just kinda like a side hustle from my uh hospital job. Sure. I don't blame you. Yeah. I don't really I I like to watch soccer highlights But I cannot sit through that event. Anyway, what what's on your mind, my friend? Tell me. Um Uh, Scott Pelly. Uh Richard Gere. Saying that we were asleep at the um ballot box and that we gotta be vigilant. And he's talking from Norway Oslo. Yeah. Well, you know what's funny, there was this topic the other day that said you're going to see in the Spencer Pratt Uh LA mayor case, they're they're predicting fraud Now, the other day a while back nobody could mention anything about you couldn't be an election denier. Because people were being scared because of you know the whole Dominion and sp everyone. Now it's okay. There was a time when you couldn't talk about ivermectin and hydroxychloric when regarding Covet. But now you can. Don't you love the way we just change the rules? Who determines it? Yeah, based on political affiliation, yeah. Yeah, but or it's just okay to say that now. It's okay. Remember when PizzaGate they first came up with this stuff, people went crazy. My my good friend Ben Swan uh d spoke about everybody knew. We we got that from the Twitter files. We knew all about that. They said he was crazy. Now with the latest iteration of post Epstein, now it's okay. Same facts, same everything. Don't you love it? Now it's okay, but it wasn't then. Who determines this? I love this. On my grave, maybe I'm not gonna have a grave. But it's gonna say on my monument, it's gonna say I told you so. That's my whole thing. I told you. I told you. I knew it. I knew what I'm talking about. And they laugh. In fact I know I'm right when the right people laugh at me. We need courage, Eduardo. We need people to go on there on TV, on whatever, and say something that challenges convention. There are people I know who their idea of being a good Republican is to rubber stamp everything the president does. Now I think the world of President Trump, but sometimes he makes the most boneheaded moves I've ever seen in my life. I can't even believe what I'm seeing. Now, am I not supposed to say that? Who who is gonna respect me if everybody think I'm rubber stamping something? Who is gonna believe me? I mean does it it it just I mean I we need really serious Heavy lifting adult thinkers to teach Americans how to analyze the facts and to pursue the truth. And the truth sometimes will give you results you may not like. You may be embarrassed, you may be punished. Bothered by that. Much like I am bothered by you right now, and wasting your time at a soccer game. As long as they don't have any fights, that'll be fine. How's work doing? Oh, works good. I mean uh three days, two hours shift, sure. And then the rest half the week off. So yeah, it's good. And you're in you're in a hospital that smell awful. Hospitals they make me sick. I just walk into sick. Only if it's in the morgue. Yeah. Thank you, my brother. You call me again eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. We have more coming up. Oh, the AI stuff still blows my mind because it forces us to talk about basics, the interstitial facts like what is human, what is the soul, what is imagination. And one day will an AI bot be considered the same or or equivalent to a human. I say absolutely. More coming up on another side of midnight with me, Lionel. Coming up. Lionel with you. Number 800, 8489222. Let's go to Evan in New Jersey. Evan You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Lionel, I called in a few months ago. I call you my favorite radio bar Kenry because you get so much variety calling in with their life stories and once in a while you gotta throw someone out like that guy from Western PA. Uh I uh I think uh I think uh your show's incredible. Actually when AI uh when I first became aware of Chat GPT, the first thing that uh came that occurred to me when I saw how it operated was player piano because It was able to come up with some uh really good stuff, but it was limited and it also didn't have feeling like a real pianist. I mean as you're talking about, would anyone want to see a player piano perform at a concert? That was kind of what occurred to me when Chat GPT was sort of in its infancy. But I saw very quickly some uh storylines from television shows from ten, twenty, thirty years ago actually start to become questions that I do think at some point the Supreme Court is going to have to figure out. And I'm sure that the FBI and local law enforcement agencies already have AI agencies in the works, if not already here. I'm not sure how they operate, but um there was an episode of S V U maybe about a decade ago where this really sick man who was a basically a pedophile but had an act on it was Taking photos of children in a public park and public photography obviously I think is considered legal. But he was photoshopping the Photos uh and making them appear to be very sick sexual acts. And that was actually brought up and that was actually brought up in a court hearing and presented from the defense's perspective as a thought crime. And now it's like it's not victimless, but is it a criminal act? And and I I thought it was interesting how you were talking about the defamation issue because I I do think that that maybe the only way to go about this, but I have no clue. Oh, there there are also, by the way, there are also some terrible acts that do not have a civil or criminal remedy. They're they're not for example, you almost hit me. You almost now there's there's something called negligent infliction of emotional distress. Really tough. This is where I didn't hit you, but the trauma of what almost happened to you freaks you out. Think about that one. How about this? Uh assault is attempted battery. Attempted assault would be attempted attempted battery. Just play with that for a while. Evan, do me a favor. Hang on for a minute if you don't mind. I want to continue with this, because we have more coming up on Another Side of Midnight with me, Lionel. This is the third final hour of this thing of ours. Our number is 800-848-9222. And you know, we can talk about I mean, th this I'm I'm not trying in any way to to dispel or ridicule or diminish the importance of things like You know, y UAPs and UFOs, but you're never gonna find anything about that. Put it this way, the government's not gonna tell you anything if because it's actually industry that controls all the information. You're just not gonna find they're just not gonna they're gonna string you along like they have with the Epstein case. Uh it's gonna be one of those things. But what's the most interesting about this is that there is a new study involving artificial intelligence, which is the most frightening This is this is a specter this is this is a An actual chimera, so to speak. A monster. That is scarier than anything. And yet people really especially in the pathetic eighth grade news world, they don't really know how to deal with it. When we're talking to a a rather intelligent person. Yes, it's possible. His name is Evan. He's calling from New Jersey. And Evan, you had you had spoke to spoken about how kids today or younger people getting out of college their much of their their potential is virtually uh sideline by this, but A surprising news study suggests that artificial intelligence may not be the primary reason college graduates are struggling to find jobs. Researchers at the New York uh Federal Reserve whatever that's worth found that the explosion of remote work since the pandemic has made employers less likely to hire inexperienced workers because training Mentoring and skill development are more difficult in fully remote environments. And the study estimates that. Estimate rather that Remote work accounts for roughly two thirds of the increase in unemployment among young college graduates. So again One of the things which is the most interesting is the the the after effects, the the concussion, if you will, of Covid. How that changed everything. So throw that into this Gumbo of disaster. And there you have it. Right. Oh yeah, it seems like the It was a good that was good. That was very good, Evan. Right. Very good. No, no, I can I can I I can go with you, Lionel. It seems like the worst of the worlds collided when we were just on the outskirts of Covid. That's when Shat G P C I remember when I I was um I was in a college class in uh it was January of twenty twenty three, so you know, they had just lifted the mask mandate in my particular school and we were finally able to have some normal human contact and then all of a sudden we have computers trying to really resemble humans and it was much more limited back then, but it was the freakiest thing. I actually didn't believe my professor at first. Um and then I looked it up and I was like, holy smokes, this is this is crazy stuff. Well I also think is it's it's the neat part about it is this first First and foremost. Technology is always great until you're the victim of it. You know, we talk about the buggy whip industry and we talk about, you know, um I'm sure there was somebody who who we don't really need uh, you know, chimney sweeps. I mean I I guess you need those, but I'm saying there's there's something that comes along Maybe there's a better way of handling it. And whenever there's any kind of of uh adaptation. For example the calculator. I remember When a calculator a friend of mine's father bought a calculator, just four functions, for like three hundred dollars. This is you d you don't remember this, but the old calculators, it sounded like a like a plane taking off. This huge, like like an ac like an accordion or harmonica would slam back and forth. This this I mean it was incredible. And then it became smaller, smaller, smaller, smaller. So anyway, people said, No no, this is terrible because people aren't gonna be actually doing longhanded. They're not doing division anymore. and then we lose the notion of topology and what numbers mean. Oh shut up. And then sp spell check came along. No, this is terrible because we're gonna forget how to spell. Okay. Then there was digital time. No Do we in fact, by the way, that is a problem. So to an extent. Okay, but take all of that, but the real danger AI is recursive self improvement. Because AI is not chat GPT. It's not it's no but it's not op open AI. It's going to be a How do I say this? It's going to be a program. That creates write its own code. So imagine a bomb That you create. It first shuts you off. It says I think we could be far more deadly. And I think we need to have more of us. So through recursive self improvement, it mimics itself, it multiplies itself, and it shuts you down. It it this is where imagine your roomba says no. Yeah. Imagine your car saying, I don't want to go there. I think this particular route that you're taking is and it speaks to you, it takes over. And the idea of kind of like this servile technology. It's done with. Then you realize who's in charge here. Do you think that it can have malicious intentions because it's not a human. Absolutely. F for example, you know about that anthropic case where They had they they tricked. This AI and it's hard to say, where is AI? We always think about it in terms of a bot, but it really doesn't exist anymore. It's not in a computer. It's in the ether. It's I don't know where it is. It's in the air. It's in the Anyway. So what they did was they created this false scenario. where they were going to shut down. A I or this particular bot or whatever it was. Well, it found out after having gone through these falsely placed personnel records that some people were having an affair that one of the big shots in this organization was having an affair. Well it never but it it it wasn't true, but when AI got a hold of it, it blackmailed On its own. blackmailed the developer and said, You better not shut this down and me down, or else Mrs. So and so is gonna find out. So on its own We found out that It defaulted to Treachery. Revenge. Um and maybe that's maybe that's not so treacherous. Maybe that's a kind of a strange of a survival benefit. Maybe it's not that crazy. For example, will it be beneficent? Will it be philanthropic on its own? Will it independently recognize the benefit of being nice? And raising money for disease. I mean, who knows? I think a lot of humans haven't discovered that yet, Lionel. Right, right. Right. But what happens is this. When If I go to let's say the Catholic church remember, the the Christians believe that you must be Uh you you you must derive or what's the word? Um come from Adam for you to enjoy your status as human. You you you must in order for you to be a human, you have to be in the lineage of Adam or whatever you want to call it. So it might say one time because they've also said When asked whether a an extraterrestrial a UAP type of thing could this would would this be considered either as a quasi human and they say, Well, it might be considered as an angel, but the real question is, will it have original sin? And is if you know in Christianity That's the whole reason for being born again. So if these people are born without original sin, what's the point? So anyway, but what if it says, you know This may not be a human. It may not have been derived from Adam. It may not have a quote soul. It may not be the subject or the product of human, you know, um development or or a reproduction. But because it is self aware. Because it is It has a name and recognition, it has it learns it We might give it a kind of a special kind of a honorable mention. You know what I mean? Where it's an honorable mention. It's not a human, but will you know what I mean, we'll we'll recognize it. So it's almost it may recognize a bot as having a significance. Next question is, if I terminate it Will I be in essence committing quasi murder, constructive murder, to use a legal phrase. These are questions Imagine Jesse Waters trying to tackle this. Just or Pete Hegs. You know what I mean? Just n it's not gonna happen. But that's the stuff because if it forces us to ask act to ask kind of what we are. You know, what are we about? W it's it's it's oh my god. It seems AI has been learning from humans, but do you think it's also been learning from other animals as well? I would think so. Yeah. I'm sorry. Uh what were we saying? Like like hive behavior or swarms or um, if it can learn, I mean from my patterns, sure surely it can learn from my dogs' patterns, or it can learn from a guinea pig's patterns or a lion's patterns. I mean Well what about this? They have, as you know, trees and leaves and sprouts will communicate. You know the is it the mycelium or the fungi and there there are there are these kind of rudimentary basic Um uh Patterns of life that we see all the time. we see there's the group. You have the lone wolf, then you have the colony, and then you have this. And then you gotta ask yourself I want to see it work in concert. For example, I want to go to an AI bot or something and say, how does a bee? who has such a rudimentary brain. know instinctively how to make honey, how to dance, how to give signals using the positioning of the sun, of where the hive is, of where the source is. How does it do this? How does a barnacle know what would it be great if one day we sat down with AI and it says, let me get a crack. What if we became friends? What if it on its own recognized that knowing us and liking us, that we're okay. We're limited, but we have something we can show it. You know how years ago, I don't want to give this terrible example, but sometimes people with Asperger's used to report that they did not know how to react to certain things. And then sometimes they'd even go to movies and they would they would try to see, so this is what seduction looks like, or this is what amusement looks like. Well maybe w it needs us to guide us through this. To say if you're working. What if they're i they're the aliens of uh Area fifty one, or what if they are the aliens and we just don't know it? Precisely. What listen, I mean it it it it depends upon how deep you want to go. And again, I keep thinking to myself, I don't mean to be cruel, but imagine Jesse Waters. Or or some some morning show on a couch trying to tackle this in a one to two minute segment with B roll and Man on the street. Forget it. It just it's it's it it will never w one of the reasons why news doesn't work is we don't even allow we don't even give 'em enough time to do the news because we're too busy selling advertising. Anyway, that's another story altogether. Evan, I thank you, my friend. Please don't be a stranger. Okay, very good. Now our number's 800-8489-222. We will continue with this. And also, if I don't do this now, I'm going to do it later. But I've got to tell you the real fear that I have, the big three subjects which I would tackle if I could, if I ran the world. and if I ran for office. Our number's eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. This is a lion with you on the other s on another side of midnight. Alright my friends 800-8489-222 800-8489-222 What a show my friends isn't isn't thinking wonderful. Isn't thinking wonderful? I think it is. I think it is. And uh sometimes it gets scary. Sometimes I've gotta tell you something. I say this and I'm not trying to be mean, but I guess it comes across like that. We don't think people we we don't think people. We we we don't teach people how to think. We're we live in a society where teachers will tell us stop daydreaming. Stop looking out the window. Stop. Pay attention, do your work, do your math, do your project, stop thinking. We don't want you to think. In fact, we do want you to think, but we want you to think what we think. We want you to be we want to teach you or send you to school and teach you. We want to indoctrinate you. We want to do everything in our power to make sure that you do nothing but Repeat what we say. Do not question authority. Do not do anything, and I mean anything that is in any way contrary to what we teach you. If you want to be a good Republican, you will remember these things. And if you stray from either Republican or Democrat, you're gonna lose your status. There's no room for hybrids. You know what I'm saying? It's a very scary thing. And let me tell you something. We are looking at right now some of the most frightening things in the world. And in order for you to deal with that, we have to be able to have really great imagination, to be able to t take things and look a little bit differently. Let's go back at the phones, back at the phone, let's go to uh Matt. Matt in College Station, Texas. You're on another side of midnight with a Lionel. Good morning, Lionel. How are you? Good sure. Uh I was wanting to talk about the news dribble, how how it uh sounds like it you it's uh being tossed at eighth graders, as you put it. I couldn't agree with you more. Um I I turn on the news and I I'm I like to consider myself a news junkie. I I'm probably not, but um I'm a truth junkie. That's that's even better. Mm. Uh the thing that gets me is is that they they half the time that you listen to the news, it sounds like they're promoting something. I I I feel like if they aren't promoting themselves. They're promoting a product. They're not really giving you the news. They're not giving it to you straight. I I understand that there is a limited time on a particular story, but it seems like uh they just toss it out and there's no thought behind it. Um they don't ask the tough questions. Um they're afraid to lose their audience if they do. Oh yes. And and so I I just don't particularly care for it anymore. I'm not sure. First of all, the great there was a man who was an absolute genius by the name of Roger Ayle. Roger A was created Fox News. Yeah, what I Roger Ayles did was he created not broadcasting, but narrow casting. He gave you A worldview that was commensurate with what you wish the world was. I'm not saying he lied. But if um If we were involved in a military action, he was gonna show you how decisive it was, how brilliant the president was, and how great Ronald Reagan was, or whatever was not for example, well, we're not sure about this. Well, you know we have the there's the human toll. Well we got the well we're not sure. Well, you know, all of these, all of these things that most sentient people think of. They're not interested in doing. They're not they're not interested in that. And I understand it completely. But What I like to know is I love the yeah, but I'm not so sure. Let me ask you something. When the government does something On behalf of the country. Do you buy that? Not all the way. No, not really. I don't either. To be perfectly on to be perfectly honest, no. Do you think tell me how war. Any kind of war benefits us. World War Two notwithstanding I think that was a little a little different. But tell me how the Vietnam War got into this position. Two. How did we ever fall for that? I I think that uh We just wanted to believe that the government was telling us the truth. Because that's what we wanted to hear. We were also at a time. We're also at a time, interestingly enough, where we didn't know really anything about The world other than what we remember from World War Two. And we didn't we knew that You supported the country, you supported the cause that Uncle Sam you know what I mean? It was a different mindset. It was a wonderful, it was a wonderful period of time. And yet, what was so fascinating about all this stuff, more than anything else, is that it it was so um almost axiomatic and automatic. It was like nothing I've ever seen before, and it fascinated me. Absolutely fascinated me. And I thought to myself, these people were really good, really good people. They were not in any way bad. They wanted to do the right thing. And then later on they found out, my God, we've been l we were lied to. Lied to in ways that we never even thought possible. How did that happen, do you think? I I think that there were people that made a lot of money Yep. I think there was a lot of people who wanted to perpetuate the war as long as they could. I I think um There were people that actually sad to say get a kick out of watching people die without knowing Why they're dying. What was the biggest lie the government ever told you? What was the biggest lie the government ever told you? I'm gonna go back to when uh Agent Orange Was dropped on Port Wayne, Indiana. The year I was born. I was born in nineteen sixty six. I'm sixty years old. Uh, I remember reading in the school books how for years they There were people that actually knew that the government was doing this. And then finally they admitted it. Finally they admitted it. It was uh I think in the eighties. The nineteen eighties. It was kind of like what they did with with young black men giving them syphilis in the thirties. Oh yeah, the Tuskegee example. Right. Do you remember there was a time see, I don't know what's what's worth we did that. I thought Covid was one of the most incredible. That was one of the most brilliant That was one of the most brilliant psyops I have ever seen in my life. How people, how we played, how they played us for fools. I will never know as Do you remember? how they scared us. They screw you remember if you how we turned on each other. Do you remember how people were saying at the time, if you see somebody, if you see a neighbor, a neighbor who is who was maybe talking a little bit too close to another neighbor, Call this number. Call three one we had three one one here in New York. Call three one one. Turn them in. Do you remember this? Remember the six foot rule how people would be barking at each other? Do you remember how we actually believe that if we walked down, if you were in a store. And you were going in one direction if everybody on aisle three went in one direction. Somehow COVID knew that. And it would leave you alone. Somehow it knew it knew that if you went in this direction, if you wore a mask, which everybody said it will not stop a virus. A mask will not if you can smell something, it doesn't work. It's like a mosquito through a chain link fence. We knew all this. How did Fauci get away with this? How did we not know that it was it originated the Wu Flu in Wuhan? It wasn't a wet market. It wasn't a a pangall or whatever the we we we I Could not believe And you know what? They never go back and they never correct it. Do you remember how at seven o'clock at night, like barking seals, we open up the windows and play trumpets and the hit pots and pans. It was so sad. Thank you, first responders. Thank you. Thank you. Can you imagine if I told somebody we're going to introduce a drug that is going to rewire RNA. I mean, rewire this. And we're not sure if it works. We haven't had enough time to to uh study it, but just to make sure the companies are okay, we have provided by law a an immunity from it. No liability. It I mean Nobody dared. Say, wait a minute. That's not right. They looked at you like you were crazy. Oh, I learned a lot from that. I learned a lot. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm not sure. Thank you so much. Please call me again. Thank you, sir. Let's go to Danny and Yonkers. Danny, you're on another side of Midnight with a lion. So hi Lionel I I like your show very much. Uh also another one, remember they perpetrated. Wait a minute. Nancy Pelosi cannot call in the national guard. It's the president who calls in the national guard in Washington D C You know why is the role all over the joint, you're honeycombed all over the place. People believe what they want to believe. Uh you know, they were downplaying Covid and then the president comes down on you, right? And then six years later the guys who gave him the Covid uh China, the butches of Beijing, he's totally young in China a couple of weeks ago. So you believe what you want to believe, I guess. The bottom line is the top people in the country live large. They live a little bit of a good how about this? Just just the idea just the idea. Just nine eleven. Just 911, we said the smoking gun could be a mushroom cloud. Ask any questions. Why are we going to Iraq? Don't ask any questions. You wanna get those people. Who? Those people. They're from Iraq. It maybe just they have weapons of mass destruction. I mean, I i it what happens was instead of us becoming more and more attuned, more and more aware. More and more um I don't know what the word is. More and more uh I guess hip to what's going on. We instead became more and more complacent. We don't ask any questions. It blows my mind. I've never seen anything like it. We don't learn. We we just don't it it it never I I I I don't even know. And then if I had told you if I had told you, Danny, that there would come a time in our country when we will be having people, including a woman who wants to be the supreme court the next Supreme Court Justice. that she will be and other people will be unable to identify what a woman or a man is. And they would not be laughed off the scene orcibly removed from the No. This was considered open minded. I don't know what a woman is. I can't I'm not a doctor. Well, we have lost our minds. Well, we've seen in twenty five years we've seen uh the wrong country get invaded Iraq. We've seen a withdrawal done in reverse, which made us lose thirteen Marines and almost army personnel in Afghanistan. So the thing is the way I look at it is um certain things and entities are protected. Communist China's protected. They sent the virus here. You and everybody else talk about Fauci. Fauci is the front guy for the establishment. What about all the major medical centers in the United States who do actually do research? on viruses, whether they're bacterial viral, whatever. They weren't born into this, but they have they know everything that goes on. So you know I Fauci is just a humor he's a front man and they let China escape because their business partners with these political a corporate establishment in America. If you blame Fauci, I think you're a useful idiot for what went on in in the year two thousand and twenty. Just like when you had news reporters standing in front of a Minneapolis burning to the ground and the guy's going to a peaceful a peaceful That was that was Don Lemon. Listen, Danny, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. My friends, I want you to understand something which is very, very critical. Very, very critical. If you look at news and what's going on in the world, it's just an event. Then you miss the point. This is really A study in human behavior, in human tribalism, in human um Kind of f theatrics procedure. If if it's a study in Being duped, it's about history. It's about the next time. See, I find that fascinating. And the worst thing that ever happened, the worst thing is to be able to give it a name. Let me give me something else which is happening. I want you to be very, very aware of something. You we' we're not mentioning this now, but this is critical. I see three very, very, very important and very, very critical issues that I think are going to define us in the next in the upcoming future. Three issues which are the most important. The first is going to be what we used to call America first. I want to call this America only. Is it isolationism? You better believe it. It's going to be so popular, so critical, so important, you are not going to believe the um the story. It is so it it is it is going to define us. America first. And they're gonna do everything in their power to tell you that that is somehow racist or whatever. I don't know, but they're gonna try their best. The next thing is going to be crime. You have not really seen crime yet. You've not really seen crime. being what it can be and what it will be. There's something I want you to remember. And it's one of the most brilliant pieces ever is called Restorative Justice. And the fellow who was responsible for this and for this but for for for spearheading this is is George Soros. And what restorative justice is. very simply is this idea that in order for us to get to the bottom crime, we must not look to the carceral. I love this. That means incarceration. We must look beyond that. Why do people do this? What was it about the system, our society that caused this poor miscreant, this young man or woman to to victimize somebody? What was it that made them? that caused them to to okay. That's great. That's cute. That's BS. Complete and total eighteen carat BS. And what they also want to do is they want to make sure that in the case of a woman, let's say, who was the victim of some type of uh let's say a sexual battery, we want the victim to sit down with her assailant and get to know each other, to find out. Why to it it sounds crazy, up to in a point that up to the point where if a woman refuses to do so because she can't look at this guy again, the charges are dropped. So remember, America first, number two is gonna be crime, and number three And this is something which is the most interesting. I never saw this in my life. And I started professional talk radio. In nineteen eighty eight. So you figure thirty eight years ago. And I've never seen anything like this. Okay? That is the idea that there is an insanity. that permeates everything about our culture, up to and including This lunacy called sexual gender whatever you want to call it. I I I I I I I I cannot tell you. Now I think to myself, if my father were alive. And if I tell him I said not not too long after you died, they started this. Yeah, I swear to you, he wouldn't believe me. He wouldn't believe me. That they're talking about This so There's also a concomitant thing which is very hap which is very interesting. And the reason why I mentioned Candice Owens and others are are are bringing this up. There is a newfound um attraction to Catholicism. Now, I was raised went to parochial school from kindergarten through high school. In the sixties and seventies, when it was really kind of fun to go to Catholic school then. It was almost like Dungeons and Dragons meets, Harry Potter meets, whatever it was. Okay. But a lot of people are like that. Charlie Kirk was spearheaded this this newfound appreciation for for rules, for morality, for a system of right or wrong, and stuff that we might consider the old time. old days, kind of old fashioned or whatever it was, you know, no premarital sex, women staying at home. This is considered by a lot of young people to be advantageous. And this is what Charlie Kirk was pushing before they killed him. And we'll talk one day about who they were. but it sure as hell is not Tyler Robinson. That's for sure. So what I'm saying is, and I want you to listen to what I'm this is very critical. This is not about me I'm not telling you I even advocate this. I'm telling you this is happening. This is happening. And all my life I've been able to notice trends. And when I tell people this, especially young folks, I said, you know, there was a time years ago when this guy named Jim Fix came out with this book called The Art of Running. And it was a book on how to run. How to run. Remember his leg on the front cover? He died, by the way, of a he had a uh a cardiac condition uh congenital. And oddly enough he died while running. Anyway. And I saw this. I said there was a time when nobody went to a gym. We had Jack Lelane, Vic Tanney, the Y M CA, Gleesons, it was boxing, not like we see today. Then the movie Stay Hungry and Pumping Iron and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So what I've always been able to do is to point out things and to say, watch what's happening, watch the trend. Don't pass judgment on it, but look at what's happening. And what I'm telling you that's happening right now that is the most fascinating is that there are a lot of people A lot of people who were really noticing changes. And I'm telling you right now. If you want to see something more fascinating than anything that might land in area fifty one, if you want to see something that is more fascinating than anything um Paranormal. Look at what's happening to our society now. You're gonna miss it. You're going to miss it. And you've got to be able to step back and look at humanity in a very jaundiced, but kind of like a technical eye. Like, why are we doing this? Why are things happening like this? Who is running the show? Don't just sit back and don't let somebody on a news show tell you what's going on. Ask yourself a little bit more. Nobody's being held to I despise politicians. Despise them. They have absolutely nothing to do with what's best for you and me and our family. They don't. And when it comes to restorative justice, we'll talk more about that tomorrow night. But I was a prosecutor and I saw this. And let me tell you something. This is there is a f this this is a terrible a terrible example. But you know there's good bacteria and there's bad bacteria. And women, ladies, if you're listening, you will know that sometimes uh you are told, be very careful when you're taking antibiotics, because this wonderful uh not biota, but this wonderful balance between lactobacillus and such is that if good bacteria are killed off by antibiotics, you will get a monstrous yeast infection. Monilia, candidiasis, whatever you want to call it. Okay? Why? Because of this balance. By analogy, We have a system right now and the reason why people aren't breaking down your door, the reason why people aren't being pulled out of their car and beaten and robbed and their car is stolen, is because there is a balance in this society. And it's not because humans are good. It's not because they realize that stealing cars is a bad thing. It's the fact that whatever this Whatever this is, law and order, fear of incarceration, what have you. It is strong enough. But if you tamper with that, People will come out of the woodwork and you will have a human version of the vaginal yeast infection. I hate to use this analogy, but it's perfect. If this balance gets out, if the bad guys think wait a minute There's nobody in charge here. You're not gonna recognize this. And that's why the second amendment is gonna be so critical. Not to war, not to fight marauding you know, countries that invade us or a government gone rogue, which is a part of it. No. It's to protect your family from people who are sick. Do you remember during COVID in the middle of the night I do, hearing all these fireworks Remember these professional fireworks. We remember doing George Floyd when that drug addict died by overdose while in police custody, and they blamed officer Chauvan for it. Because they saw the knee on the neck, even though they had nothing to do with why he died. Anyway. We have to change everything. I mean everything the way we're doing. We need to change schools. We need to bolster religion. We need faith in this country. We need something. Something for people to believe in. And I may not be the most religious or at all religious when it comes to this. I'm pretty much irreligious. But I recognize the importance of it. And I imp recognize the the message that churches and the catechisms and theology provide. And we are desperately bereft of this. We are so, as a society, We are in bad, bad shape. And I'm not just saying this. And let me say this again to you. If you want to see something spooky, if you really want to I mean really get freaked out, don't look up. Don't look at any other planets. Don't look at any other parallel universe. Yeah, they're interesting too, but it's happening right here. Because I got news for you. We if if the wrong button is is Crypt, you will see a savagery, a thuggery, you will see marauding humanity, the likes of which you can't imagine. And it takes just one. wrong message from the wrong mayor, the wrong governor, the wrong chief of police, the wrong whatever, and it's over with. Am I trying to scare you? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. For commercial ratings? No. To make you pay attention. This is serious. Let me just say very quickly. This is the real thing. This is not a dress rehearsal. This is Lionel with you on another side of Midnight. with you. There was a story that appeared this uh Weak. Um That Epstein's dark dream of spreading his DNA may outlive him. You're going to find that there are a lot of folks, interestingly enough, who are People like Elon Musk people I heard somebody say I don't know if this is true or not, I'm sure it who knows. But they said, You know, Elon Musk has about, you know, fifty kids. I think what are ya talking about? Oh yeah, these people, these these apocalyptic billionaire types want to have their their their you know their progeny. And one of the things which is the most interesting, I've mentioned this before about what happens when the law and technology kind of don't catch up with each other. The following is something very interesting. Let us assume by the way, they say that Epstein has a lot of his sperm banked somewhere. Okay? Who owns that? Who owns his sperm? I don't get too much. If somebody were to Take that and in I don't know, be just come into contact with it and inseminate themselves. The woman, of course, would there be any claim to his estate? Now you may say, Well of course not. Really? Why not? How do you know that? What is What is the the criterion for when somebody is able to deal with or to take under somebody's will? What is it? Who knows? Because there are people right now, put it this way, there are people who are the product of children who are who are the product of rape, I'm sorry to say this, where there was no consent, and that does not in any way vitiate paternity or maternity. If that makes any sense. Um Let's go to uh let me see, um Let me see what are we talking about? I don't know about this car. I don't like the I don't like sometimes sometimes you look at a car and think I don't know if I like this one. Let's go to Charlie and Cherry Hill. This'll we'll end with a big bang on this one. Charlie, you're up next on Another Side of Midnight. Thank you for taking the call one listen, you were talking about bread and circus, uh you you were asking where it came from and it uh obviously and you did a good job explaining it. The Roman Empire they did it offered free grain to take uh people's minds off of the fact that they didn't have or they offered entertainment. to take people's minds off and the the fast forward analogy you brought up about the New York Knicks, and it really could be any professional sports team. It could be the Philadelphia Eagles, it could be the Seattle Miners. Uh because the reason why politicians want to divert uh the public's attention from how bad a job they're doing, like is it some of the characters we have we like Eric Swalworth. But don't you think that's is a good thing don't you think that sports Is and can be considered a good thing. people feel pride, provided they're not, you know, s catching things on fire. But isn't that isn't it good to to have a New York pride if it's not in legislation or education or quality of life or whatever. I mean, in in in some respects I think it's interesting. And by the way, I thank you for your call. There's something very odd. One time I remember at the old W A B. C studio, we we were at Two Penn Plaza. And when we'd come downstairs it'd be the night of the you know, the the Knicks were playing or the rangers or what have you. And I saw men walking around, of course, with jerseys other people's names on their back. And I looked at it and I said, This is the silliest thing I've ever heard. And somebody said, What's the matter with you? This is their team. One guy had a had a a jersey on and says Messier. I said, excuse me. It was for the Rangers. Are you Mark Messier? He says no. I said, Well why do you have his name on your back? And he looked at me like what are you talking about? And it wasn't in order to be derisive or to cause problems. Well, not exactly. But I thought to myself, this is demented. And I'm the and I'm in the minority of cases. My friends, we will return tonight tonight. Well, tonight, you're right. Or tomorrow night. Who knows? Two to five a.m. per usual on another side at midnight. 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