Conspiracy theories and government narratives

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This is the other side of midnight. and we're still trying to figure out what kind of bird that is that I believe is posed and poised to be an owl The sounds like a dove Anyway, aside from the irrespective, notice I didn't say the irregardless. by the way, regardless is actually an accepted word though though disapproved I have a friend of mine who says irregardless to this day. and I always say, well, irregarding the matter, you know, ir reggarding the He doesn't understand the hilarity of that. Please don't say irregardless. please. Don't say nuclear Whatever you do, please I beg you, do not see nuclear. That is the caco Epi, but we'll get into that. Anyway, my dear friends, welcome, welcome, welcome I spend so much time during the week Hrying a list addbration of topics for you. And I'm always trying to think of what's the best way to explain the theme of my particular take on this? And I realize there is no name, there is no description. There's no way It's just to think, to be suspect, to be a skeptic. to don't ever take whatever your government, whatever the iteration is at face value. Question authority, question, question, question. Coming up this hour, we're gonna to have, of course, Wrior Weekend With my beloved, Lyn Saw from Lin's Wriors to bring you up to speed of what is happening regarding a topic which has been all but forgotten. June is Internet Safety Month. We will talk about that in earnest. but I want to talk to you first about something which I think is very, very interesting. it's one of those wonderful, I think you would perhaps maybe call it a definitional thing, but you know, there was a time in our great country when curiosity was considered, believe it or not, a virtue It was good We wanted you to be curious And there was also a time when asking questions wasn't viewed as some kind of heresy or some act of, you know obstinacy or some kind of rebellion or subversion or some ideological defiance, Nope, people were encouraged to inquire, to investigate, and to challenge assumptions. I I was very lucky because I attended a Jesuit high school growing up In fact, we just had our fifteth anniversary, which I did not care to attend, which is another reason I don't want to go into. But I have a strange thing about a difference between mythology, reminiscence, nostalgia and fantasy, but I digress. But our priests at the time when the Jesuits were far more, I think, radical than they are now, they said, think about it. think, think. Th. We're not teaching you to memorize, think And I remember the thing. and skepticism was something which we were told good. Question everything up to and including your faith question is good. Skepticism was not a political Identity, I guess It was a habit of mind, which we are losing. Skepticism is the recognition and the belief, I guess, that truth Real truth, the truth that we look for, the truth that we all swear we want to know. It really, if you think about it, truth requires effort And that certainly can sometimes be the enemy of understanding People don't like that. I question everything. And if there's one thing, one idea, anything that I could be associated with up to and including delirious entertainment, I think it's going to be the idea of questioning Questioning everything, Qestion, authority, question, everything that you see, and everything that comes before you. There's nothing wrong with that. And today, I was thinking about this. something feels a little different, weird. See, a lot of people and I hear it a lot. A lot of people feel that that they're Maybe that we're living in an era or an epoch, as people call it, is defined not by a lack of information, o, nay nay, but by an overwhelming abundance of it. Think about this, never before in your lifetime have so many facts and opinions and theories and hypotheses and Narratives and videos and documents and documentaries and experts and shows. and my God, it's been available at the touch of a screen. I tell people this all the time, and you remember there was a time where we had a library or some people called it a library And you went to the Dewey Deimal catalog and you had to look things up And we had a reference librarian. You could call this woman on the phone. And yet, despite today this incredible information tsunami and this unprecedented access, confusion Confusion remains Well, to put it mildly widespread, end up being kind. And in some instances, it appears to be increasing. Isn't it interesting the paradox we have more information before us, but we know so little. Isn't it interesting paradoxically how we're always writing, but we write nothing our ability to write to T an email to compose an idea is diminishing greatly, even though we are duping ourselves into tapping away with our thumbs. That's not writing. Think about this. we're writing constantly, but we're not. It's like morse code. It's a glyph. it's not the idea of creating thought. And the central challenge, if you think about this, the central challenge of modern life and being a good citizen or a parent or whatever is no longer obbtaining information, That's easy. The problem and the challenge is determining which information deserves your trust. And that's the most important. I'm going be talking about this One of the things which fascinates me also. You know people look at And it's wonderful that we always look to the sky and look to history to be fascinated, to be to be moved by mysteries. And one of the greatest mysteries of life is how we act as a crowd. I would never understand as long as I live how when we win a Basketball game I'm not I don't want to get into that, but I'm the last person you want to talk to about acting like a fool over a game Like I said, it's wonderful. I can point to, it's good for the city, it's good for but it's tribalism. It's juvenil, bread and circuses. It's it's not my cup of tea, but that's okay. I appreciate that. But perhaps maybe what you can explain to me is how is it? Now workk with me on this 'use I must be a little stun out here. I don't get this. How is it that after you have won and your team your team is triumphant, why would you want to destroy property Why would you want to destroy Pperty hurts people show violence when you're ostensibly happy. wouldould you show elation? How is it? And this week And I'm want to go over this really carefully with you. In case you've just tuned in, I am a licensed lawyer, trial lawyer, licensed in New York and New Jersey and Florida and DC and the Supreme Court and the federal courts and all of that stuff. And I was a prosecutor when I cut my teeth So I've always had kind of a feel for this. And this past week regarding the Carmelo Anthony case is an example Not so much of the trial, but the reaction And I am going to say something, and I'm going to say it's not out of any kind of a desire to see this happen. believe me, it's the last thing I want But there are people, significant factions in our society, my friends, who want to inspire and foment and incite race wars. race riots They' never happy. And again I don't think this is a huge portion. I don't think this is I don't think it's necessarily black. Many people I think people say, o here we go. I say, Ohh, no, no, no, no, this is black and white, no whatever. But there are people who absolutely are never happier than when they can point to a George Floyd or Carmelo Anthony. And in the George Floyd case, that's one thing but Carmelo Anthony is as guilty as the day is long I can only give you my promise. I can only give you my promise If there was something fundamentally wrong with the case If there was something fundamentally wrong with the verdict, with the evidence as adduced I will tell you I have no problem with that I have said this repeatedly Much to the chagrid of many people. Recently one time there was a I was doing a television broadcast and I said predicted that Casey Anthony. remember that Casey Anthony whose daughter, everybody says she killed her daughter. I said, she will be found not guilty. People went berserk It went berserk I said, but I'm telling you, It's not because I want this to be true. This will happen. and I was correct People went even more Berserk when I said that George Zimmerman would be acquitted in the murder, the charge of murder against Trayvon Martin. not because I wanted to be, but because of Florida Standard Ground laaw and a variety of other cases. And again, people always think that when I predict something that I'm saying I want this to be, that I agree with this. I'm not saying that And we all knew They Carmelo Anntony case And I don't want to go too much into the legal specifics, but trust me when I tell you this. He had no claim of self defense Under the laws of Texas, like many others, you are precluded from claiming self defense when you are the instigator. When you begin the confr confrontation, then you say, well, I was defending myself. you started it Number two, there was no need for deadly force. Austin Metcalf, the young man whom he killed by plunging a knife into his heart, in no way posed a deadly threat or used deadly force to which you could respond with deadly for Then there's the retreat doctrine, which says you've got to leave. There's no standard ground. I went through this and we all knew this. We all knew it. Then the guy raises what nine hundred almost a million dollars and go fund me here What have you? And his parents end up blowing the whole amount on houses and cars and now he's penniless, theoretically, claiming pennury for his appeal. This was absolutely positively. this young man was one hundred percent guilty. Why he did it? ide. Motivation is unnecessary. Did you intend to do this? Yes. This wasn't an accident. Nobody fell on the knife. So what I'm saying is that notwithstanding peopleeople almost in this performative kabooky response. It was fascinating. This is harkens back to Gustave Le Bon and crowd theory. Th mobs and pass of people manyany of them completely indecipherable, completely unable to be understood, completely just fueled by this performative anger which is further fueled by social media It was something to behold It was something to behold. And I'm telling you, it also gave rise to the notion of reparations, which is a phenomenal issue. Oh my God, donon't think for a moment this is going nowhere. And don't think for a moment, my friend, that they were not there were not contingents of people ready to go into full Def C Floyd, ready to go back into the just like we did it, just like we did in rehearsal Plywooden I'm telling you. So we're going to be talking about that and a variety of myths and kind of mental tricks that we play on each other all coming up in perhaps one of the most fascinating another side of midnight's ever. and then coming up, my beloved Lynshaw from Lin's Warriors because this is Warrior Wednesday. More coming up my friends on another side of midnight Staben Island Hawks hosts the Hagerersstown Sline Box cars. Tonight at seven PM, it's soccer night and kids glow around the bases postgamees. Saturday at six hundred thirty, it's Broadway night with postgame fireworks and Broadway rain. Sunday at one hundred thirty, it's military Areciation dayay, and the kids run around the bases. A great day out for the entire family. Kids run the bases after every Sunday home g Want the best seats all season, get more fairyhawks for at sixty three bucks. Visit fairyhawks dot com now to lock in your seats That's right, my friends. And the music says it all. this is wararrior Wekend, Wrior, Warrior Wekend. I so gotta work on a better phrase for that, but you know what I'm talking about At this time we have on Ione used to say full disclosure, like I'm embarrassed. I'm the proudest thing about this ever. My wife, my beloved wife Lynshaw from Lyns Wriors joins us. Lnswarriors. org Lns Warriors on YouTube and Lys Underscore Warriors on X time my friend to wake up parents of wake up America, the hidden dangers of kick and discord and roblox and other popular apps. And this, my beloved, June is Internet safety Month. Welcome back to Warrior Weekend Thank you, Lionel. Good morning, everyone. goodood morning, America. Let's get to it because this is such an important month to know shine a light on again, internet safety. We talk about it every day, but we've got one month designated where we've got it, you throughout schools and camps and everybody's talking about it Well, let us begin. What should we know? and the you know, and you know more of these than I do regarding the hidden dangers of kick disiscord, roadblocks, which sounds like road blocks, other popular apps. The question we have to do is why are these apps attracting so much concern from child safety advocates. Okay, let's start with let's have a little background First of all, what we are talking about is such an important subject, topic for every parent, grandparent, and caregiver. You need to understand what is going on. We live online. It is not going away. So we've got to get with the program We've got to stand up, you buy your child a device, you got to take some action. We've got to sound the alarm because kids are spending hours a day on these three popular apps I want to call out, Roblox, Discord, and Kick Okay, there are other platforms, but we're going to focus on these right now Of course, these platforms can offer you know, opportunities to connect with kids your own age or entertainment, but they also and this is what I want everybody to understand, expose kids to significant risks for the grooming. exploitation extxtortion inappropriate content, this predatory behavior and contact with complete strangers pretending to be kids. And the thing, Lino, I want everybody to know is that parents The most common misconception when we talk to them is they think because a game or an app is popular, it must be safe. So we got to break that apart because that is not true at all. Remember, we always say at the wararriors where Whver the kids are, so are the predators Many of these platforms they rely heavily self reported ages means a kid can check off a box. know if it says something like, you know, you must be sixteen to use this game. They could be eleven years old. We all know kids are savvy. thirty and under have grown up with the internet. They know how to get around everything And bad actors can easily create these fake accounts with false identities as well and pretend to be kids, peers of all kids So isn't there a Yeah? I'm sorry. No no, isn't there a kind of a presumption of Except, you know, people sometimes will eat things that they'll find in a bag Because say, well, it must be okay because they wouldn't be able to sell it if if if it was dangerous and this over the counter product can't be a problem because, well, after all They wouldn't be allowed to sell it And the same thing goes for these games or these apps if these really can't be bad because Certainly, if they were some kind of grooming tool They wouldn't be allowed. It's not correct, is it F from correct. And you know, look This is not about fear. this is about awareness. We are pro technology at the Warriors. We are pro innovation. but what is going on is an American crisis parents must understand when their kids are spending this much time online. And again, there's parental autonomy. so it's up to you how much time you allow your child. We of course, say delay is the way. less time, especially in the summer months now, kids who are up from school, get back to the books, reading, get back to nature, get go out no screamings No screens, but again, there's pntal autonomy. So everybody fights with, you freedom of speech. I can do what I want as a parent We have the studies now. We have the doctors, we have the teachers who have come forward. We've got thirty years now of the internet. We know the harms that are being caused. And now we have AI being unleashed. But let me explain why I decided disiscord, roblockx and Kick are attracting more concern from a lot of not only the warriors, but other child safety advocates groups and organizations because we talk about these things Re twenty four hours a day. We go non stop. Because these three things, again, disiscord rooblocks and kick, they connect millions of children. They are very popular and teens, okay, with people they don't know in real life So large numbers of children are gathering online, predators see opportunity. It goes back to wherever the kids are, so are the predators And again, these kids think, you know, many parents think roobux. because I ask them all the time, I use everybody as focus groups. You know, is your child on roobox, your teen on robux? Oh, of course. Do you know what Roblox is? I don't know. It's a game. They collect robos, play with their friends, it's like coding. Nobody has ever actually I've asked, given me an accurate answer. But Roblox, everybody, RO B L O X is much more than a game includes, now listen up everybody chat functions social interaction, user generated content, and communication features, which again, parents are seeing is a game Kids are seeen as a social network. The distinction is important because again, the predators can act as a child and start communicating with that child, okay? And they get them to go offline, you know into direct messages. This is what they're doing now. For instance, you're playing the game so well. Let me play with you. you know, those kind of you flattering them and then moving them offline to the direct message, the DMs everybody And that's where this grooming process happens and happens quickly. And what makes discord, let's get on to that's Roblox. That's like a gaming app, okay, very popular. Millions of kids in America are on this every single day. So parents really should and caregivers, family members know what's going on here Also, disiscord is a messaging app I'm messaging up. Why do kids even need that? But anyway It allows users to create these private servers. and communicate through text voice and video. W have it ser. I think Private servers. private servers And also again, so this is a direct with a child, or why is a child? I mean, you know, eighteen and under teeen as well, but communicating also private servers voice and video Okay, we know some of it will be harmless Private groups so can become difficult. Anything that's private, right? for parents to monitor. If you have a private server or text messages, videos that perhaps disappear and all that. So children again, may be interacting with people whose identities are completely unkown. And I want to point something out. We don't need testing for all of this because we do a lot of focus groups. We speak to a lot of high school and college students Every one of them almost, Lyionel, the hand will go up. They've been approached sexually online. Girls in particular have been deluged with, you know images, fake accounts have been set up and we are trying to you know see what's going on out there. you know, an adult pretended to be a twelve year old to see what kind of reaction had within seconds You can't believe the horrible family program here, the horrible content and images that are sent to what these people out there think are hard to call them people. Th theseese criminals, I'm going to call them criminals. That's the right thing. You know, thinking it's a twelve year old girl and what they're sending them It is horrendous Again, because that screen, everybody thinks, I guess, you know, the screen, nobody knows who I am Let me ask you a stupid question, Perhaps. We're talking to Lynchaw from Lynswarriars. org Let's assume, God forbid that I am a predator and I am Waiting. I'm a sixty eight year old predator Im I'm waiting How do I know? fromrom my end, when people are on or How does the predator know where and I'm not trying to instruct people how to do this, but How does this work exactly? What do you mean? You just you just follow the platforms You just sign up. For instance, we talked about, you know, roobblocks You sign up and you sign up because again, there's no verification. Okaykay. We'll get into that for a minute. You can say I'm a fourteen year old teen boy R? And that's your profile that you've created. So then you start interacting with the other kids on there or perhaps the other predators on there. okay? because we have groups of predators after the kids they work, you know in tandem, you could have two You could theoretically have two predators thinking each other one was four was fourteen. I mean, I'm not trying to be silly here So this is a This is basically an open market Let me step just for one Don't just just remind people. When we were kids, and I hate to say this because if If I hear one more person tell me, well, you know, when we were kids, well, we're not kids The fifty, sixty set it's over with. It's Ward Cleaver is done. It's difficult for people to understand that You worried about a guy in the white van someomebody, the number of people Weak, I can't believe. The number of people who were attempted to be abducted when they were kids Um Remember our mutual friend or the great Pat Cooper wrote about how he was when he was a kid. I mean, this is that was kidnapping Bad, terrible, scary. But that was a different story. This, you're opening the door to your child's mind, their body, as he or she sits in front of you, seemingly playing along innocuously or in their room in your home. Oen the door to your child. I don't think people really understand that. Do you Listen, I'm going to keep talking about this till I drop dead because I do not understand what people do not understand. I say Well, I don't want like that. used Well, I used to say, you know, I'm not going to judge. Everybody's busy, Ebody's overwhelmed. There's a lot going on in the world Well, I'm going to start judging starting today because I am tired. We are fighting in Washington nonstop for our American kids. Why Lyel do we have to fight so hard for this? Why are we allowing a free ride for big We understand about innovation. We understand right now in Washington, they want to be global leaders with everything because that is the playbook we are told every single day. okay? But you know what? At the same time, you can be a global leader and you can hold Big tech a little bit accountable. And those people who come after us with the freedom of speech and this and that, where is the freedom and protection for our kids? Eact Why is bigig tech the only business where there's no regulation. There's nothing where they, you know we have safety features, they say. We do our best. They put out glossy PR propaganda, you know, things when a lawsuit' happening or something's going to come down. Basically safety features don't work, they're too difficult for parents to enact. It is all BS. so it is up to us people better wake up and become a warrior in their own home and communities to help our children because they are stealing our children from us We're talking to Lynhaw from Linns Warriarsors. org. This is wararrior Weekend. Now what is kick? KIK? You got me you got me there. What is that?ick Kick noobbody knows what kick is yet millions of kids are on it. KIK historically attracts a lot of attention again because it has an anonymous communication, a bunch of different features and concerns, again, we have to go through this again, when something is anonymous hard to track or it's hard for parents to monitor Okay, so parents should understand. Bad actors hide because it's anonymous It kicks it kick, you know, it builds itself as for kids. The tagline is like, you know, make new friends with Kick, you know, it's anonymous. Again, anything anonymous, you can imagine what goes on there. Again, because there's no real verification for the site. People are lying, kids are lying about ages, adults are lying, mixing everybody together, therefore you have predators. But something billing itself, you Make new friends You don't use the analogy And I know you're tired of hearing it, but we have to keep sounding this alarm. You know you don't leave your front doors unlocked. or if you do in this day and age, you're stupid. But you don't. Now let me ask you Yeah. But we give kids devices and we don't lock them down. okay? People have to understand the analogy That's my next question How do you U You got me on kick. I knew about the rest of the Roblox, but I don't I'm not. That's why I'm calling KIK out because nobody knows about it yet. millions of good. Youron. Well, you heard it here first Okay, And by the way, this is June is Internet safety mononth. Please be aware of this could a parent do? Can you say, come here Little tabt there. mayay I see your phone that I pay for that I that I'm re that I own as I own you Is it possible to look through your phone for the apps and to find out or just ask. What should a parent do First of all, you bought the devices, you pay for the internet, you pay for the router, youve got all that going on. It starts simply with communication For the moment your child, you know we used to work with high school kids. Now for the time they're born, again, it depends when a parent deccides to give a device, but I've seen plenty of two year olds on iPad. in restaurants on airplanes You know, you have to start the communication, age appropriate, talking to them Okay to say, you know, Only friends On you know mom and dad are going to check this. It is okay to have them monitor. There are programs like BRC, BARK where you can monitor your child's messages and images coming in. We have Gab, GABB. These are companies I don't get anything from them. They are monitoring your child's communication. And in this day and age, if you don't have something like that because again, we do know everybody's busy, why not get a little help from the outside? Because you have to instill in our children You know, inoculate them what's going on online because I deal with too many parents Their children are no longer with us They've been harmed. social media harms, whether it's cyberbllying, sex extortion, eating disorders suicide because of this online and they say if only my child had come to me, no matter what they put. They put a nude image, bad dialogue, cursed out their parents. The kids are killing themselves instead of communicating with the parents Okay or the trusted adult, right? So we have to start we have to start thinking in a different way This is what it is The predators are winning We have to be that warrior in our home. If you're going to give the device, you're going to buy that device, you're going to sit with your child. You're going to lock it down. It's going to be friends and family only. And even then, you still have to be careful because again, kids are savvy. We have nine year olds I have stories buying burner phones at the gas station, kids know how to get around, you know, locking things. You've got to delegate yourself of minutes a day talking to the kids, not you know, yelling at them and not it's conversation. And if it starts early, that will carry through the teen years. open dialogue about things. And also we always say no devices in the bedrooms at night. You know, kids need to sleep. That's their time to rest. Things happen, kids are staying up all night scrolling doing things they shouldn't be doing. Teachers report they're falling asleep on their desks the next day. You've just got to be, you know common sense type of thing And why is it, you know kids have an average of four devices available to them ages nine to seventeen? The kids hold that many devices? Again, there's parental autonomy. Do they need that many devices? Does a two year old really need an iPad So again, delay is the way. If you can put off devices really until eighth grade That is a great start. Why does a child need a phone before eighth grade? And even if because we get the argument, they feel left out, they'll get bullied. Okay that again Okay, you can buy what looks exactly like an iPhone, but only has capability to make a phone call, you or texting to mom and dad. know you program family members. And this way the child will not get bullied if that's what you choose to do. But again, I can't stress enough, it starts with you communication in the home But also we have a tremendous movement because we have problems with schools. using the government issuue chromebooks, millions of them across the United States. There's a pullback. The teachers don't want the kids on the devices. Okay. The parents now are coming forward. we don't want the kids on the devices. The kids themselves, it's called pencil to paper. The parents have started this across the United States and it's moving I have to say, thank goodness, where you get a textbook, where you get a package of papers every week with your assignments. You do not have to be on a government issed chrbble. They will tell you some schools and teachers, this is the way we do it. You do not have to do it. You have every right So we are seeing the pendulum swing back. I'm happy to report during Internet safety month that there is this push, but we want to work all summer. so when we go back to school in September or late August in some states, we are prepared and I have to say, it is really moving forward fast because finally people are waking up. are realizing what's going on, but we have to push harder. We have to help everybody understand because of AI now, which is a definite runaway train. Okay? and let me repeat. only business right now, big tech, no regulation. So we have to talk about taking control in our own homes Now we're talking to Lyn S Chaan from Lynswarriors. org June is Internet safety month with you on a little little thought experiment or a field trip mentally. When you go to Washington and you meet with your colleagues from all over the country from various organizations and coalitions, And you storm the and I've seen you actually storm the halls of Congress And you meet with various what is the reaction you receive from various levels of government Well, That is a loaded question, Lyel. and the reaction is ive us loaded an. Theion is there is a lot of fake boniness going on all around Washington. whether it's a Democrat or Republican, a reminder that child safety issues, anything with the internet, okay, are kids, it is a bipartisan issue. It does not belong to any political party Charlie Surely everybody would get on board with this. okay? We have to remember though, what's happening right now lobbyist Big tech tremendous amount of lobbyists. one lobbyist per for members of Congress, it's probably higher. That's what we know about It's probably one lobbyist for every two members That being said, they are there day in and day out, these lobbyists in the ear of our senators you, all of Congress of the legislative aides constantly. And because they're doing so much and they're in disarray in Washington, okay, that's just the name of the game They will remember, this is my opinion, the last thing they hear, if they go to vote on something or if they hear something repeatedly, they think it's right, because we go to the offices, we very nicely we are armed with our facts We leave our handouts with our bullet points. We talk to everybody. Everybody says this is horrible. Everybody says we're going to help. Everybody's going to do this, that and the other thing. But you know what? Big tech is winning Big tech in twenty twenty six is winning. and that is It hurts me to say this because we see the harms being done to our kids and a reminder. It's not only the children, it's the entire family unit being harmed. Why in Washington, they can't say we are going to protect our kids. We are going to come up with a plan. Right now we have the Kids Online Safety Act, Senate version seventeen forty eight, Senator Marsha Blackburn, four and a half years, Senator Richard Luenthal Republican and Democrat, it is a wonderful piece of legislation with a duty of care. Big teech has a duty of care to put out a product Okay, that, you know, the harms they will take out that they see. Kind of broad language in my opinion, but the least we could do right now in Congress is get this to a vote againain There's a lot of money going on Right? Where's all the money right now? It's in AI. It's in states such as Louisiana and Texas. I'm going to leave it at that, building these massive AI, know data centers. suucking up the air, the water, the le. When you have Okay, let me say though, when you have Mike Johnson, for example who is being presented and by the way, how anybody, you know, these are going to be albatrages. You know how some things sounded good at first like windmills Oh, how nice. We have windmill technology. The wind. Th later on, they said we know anything to do with it because it's a disaster. And you're going to be hearing a lot of these data centers. peopleeople are going to be turning their backs on this and they're also going to be in an albatrara But when you're dealing with, let's say a might Johson and oth And you say, Listen, we want you to basically say no to big tech. They're being told the story that if China gets their foot in the door, their nose under the tent any kind of Any advancement we're going to lose So, mister Congress personerson, you may think you're helping children. Any type of impediment, any type of brerakes that you apply to the full you full fledged advance of this, you're ultimately going to hurt our country and our national security. And you know this is what they're told. They're told, you cannot do this. China doesn't have this Europe or European countries don't have this, why do we have all these protections? That's the parents' job, not ours. And that's exactly what they're told. The big tech playbook is it's up to the parents. you know, they've got their devices do have safety features. Well when you have thirty one steps on an Apple iPhone and you get to step ten or eleven and it's very frustrating, okay or the fine print that they give out Okay, you know different I also want to mention Apple in particular, they're allowing kids to sign contracts for things. No minor, you're a lawyer. No minor is allowed to sign a contract that's binding for anything. kids are allowed to set up you know Instagram accountsed thirteen and all that. Instagram itself will send the thirteen year old Okay, you can set up your own account now. anythingthing with minors Okay is against the law. Am Irect? you're a lawyer Correct They enter not Why does big tech allow You do not have the capacity to enter into a contract if you're a minor? Well, they're getting away with it because bigig tech is doing all kinds of things with miners and Washington right now You me you got me on a bad day, Lyel. You know, spending all week on phones on Zooms in Washington, they are not doing their job to protect our American children They are looking at big tech, they are looking at the power they bring, they are looking at the money they bring. They are looking at the data centers they're bringing to different states. They are BS right now. And we shouldn't have to work four point five years on the Kids Online Safety Act Okay, a good piece of legislation and fight so hard for our kids. And if President Trump wants a major win, which I believe he really should have right now, okay? He has a lot of good people out there that voted for him and believe in him and believe in the administration and what he could do Piece of legislation, the Kids Online Safety Act and that That would be something that the American public would be so proud of and could help put big tech in place a little bit. They are making so much money Big tech. this would not hurt them at all. Okaykay? And there's just a stop, there's a hold up There' this is so awful. We're going to take care of it. They want to preempt all state laws. By the way, the states have done tremendous job, much better than the federal government in AI laws or child safety laws. New York State alone is one of the leaders with child safety laws. And the government now, federal government wants to come in preempt all of this. They think they're going to wipe all of this out and have one federal standard, well, that's not going to work because we all you have to do right used to No I'm sorry, but what used to be the rallying cry of conservatives in particular was that states rights, states rights to ret that federal, you know, federalism is one thing. But we were losing our individual sovereignty. that the state of New York and New Jersey should be able to say, this is what we want Well what they're trying to do is they're trying to eliminate any type of state input Qote preemption means that it's one standard that the federal government maintains. Final word, Lin Shaw from Linswarriors. org. and Lyn's Warriors on YouTube and Lyn's underscore Warriors on X Parents are listening and listening later. And they want to do something right now. What should they do? What is your best advice First, I want to mention that forty four state attorneys generenal wrote a letter Dating that preemption cannot stand forty four states That just tells you everything, okay? That's federal preemption, one standard. That being said, you don't have to be a technology expert or anything like that. You start with curiosity. You ask questions as a parent or a grandparent. You learn one platform at a time The most important safety tool is an engaged parent who pays attention. You go to lnswarriors. org, our wonderful colleagues at protect youngyes. com. The message I have is wake up America. The digital world is part of our childhood. Our kids are learning this. They're on it all day Parents cannot outsource The two technology companies, kids need our guidance. protection or supervision Risks are real, the predators are winning Stay informed and know what your kids are doing. know what tap they're on, Review the privacy settings together with the kids. Talk about it on a daily basis, what's going on and teachher children do not share information with strangers and stay engaged in your child's digital life. Indeed, Lynshaw from lnswarriors. org, Lns Warriors on YouTube. and Lin's Underscore Warriars on next. As usual, my darling, thank you so much, you were nd We will talk very, very soon. Thank you, Lionel for helping shine a light on this important issue. June is Internet saafety M. Indeed, thank you. Coming up, a brand new legal issue involving AI that nobody ever saw coming and it is rocking the legal world regarding AI. We're coming up on another side of Bight with me, Lionel We shall taste some. Ial with you, eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two, eight hundred eight four eight nine, two two two. Here's one. This is a huge case that lawyers are talking about all over the country. A recent federal court decision has put lawyers and clients on notice that using consumer AI tools for legal strategy can jeopardize the attorney client privilege. The most important case is United States againainst Hepner H EPP N ER. in that case A criminal defendant used Anthropics Claud to help draft legal materials after he had retained counsel Judge Jed Rickoff. ruled that AI generated documents quote were not protected by the attorney client privilege and not protected by the work product rule That means remember, AI is not your lawyer commommunicating with public AI platforms may not be confidential and sharing legal strategy with an outside service can be treated like disclosing it to a third party. So what people have to understand is this can destroy everything The safest thing you must do is understand we don't know yet fully how all of this works. And one of the things that you never want to do is you never want to wave anything without your knowing Regarding, for example, the attorney client privilege, the husband and wife privilege, anything. And what happens is that you as the client, you are the only person who can waive it. You hold the privilege You do. So if you were to take, this is what my lawyer told me, here's what my lawyer said. This is my lawyer's bill. is What do you think about this? Because a lot of us just throw things into. And by the way, AI is terrific for going through a lot of documents and you get a contract or a lelease and they're great But the question is, did you ever disclose the information to a third party? And if you did, the government could argue you waived any attorney client privilege. So nobody thought about this Because as is the case with most of the things, it' here, it's in front of you. It's an app. And let me also remind you that the AI that you're dealing with now, stuff that you see on chat GPT and AI and Gemini That's nothing. There is a huge issue that is curing going on right now regarding the Charlie Kirk case and TP USA. And they are now saying that this statement that he made allegedly to donors where he wants where he appoints his wife to succeed him. Now people are saying that was AI. And you ask, how could somebody be so stupid as to do that? Therein lies the rub, eight hundred, eight four eight, nine, two, two, two, your thoughts and comments and more coming up on things you've never thought about this week. On another side of Midnight with a lel Allrighty, Liona with you. Oour number two of this thing of ours on another side of midnight, eight hundred. eight four eight nine, two, two, two. Our team Jackson and Bill, Bill AKA Car who yells clear for no particular reason, scaring people in stores and in hospitals Before we go back to the phones or actually take your calls, there's a couple of things which I want to explain. You know, I'm trying to find a way to explain this. Do you remember you might have heard this When somebody would say, you know, we're going to give you this pain pill for your root canal or whatever it is. Now understand something These are tend to be addictive and you tend to become used to the analgesic effect. and consequently you're going to become habituated to it. So you're going to want more and more and more This will not be satisfactory. It won't satisfy you. Well, out of that, out of that came something interesting For the upteenth time now this week, this month, this year, how many times have you been teased by some new revelation recording UFOs UAP Spielberg's new movie It's nothing Nothing You're not going to learn anything And there are many, many reasons why growing numbers of Americans and people around the world feel this profound sense of kind of disconnect and frustration and even and this is even worse, even kind of an indifference like whenever the government or anybody promises yet another release of long awaited government records The files. What about the Epstein files and the UFO files and the JFK files, there's no files. What are you talking about Now whether the subject is Epstein or JFK or RFK, remember that one or UAPs or Intel activities or other, you know, historic controversies, the public reaction always seems to be, well We'll believe in when we see it. And after decades of promises and anticipation and delays and reductions and partial disclosures and all this stuff, a lot of Americans like me and you probably have simply reached a point of exhaustion. We're like, okay, whatever, you know, just get back with me. And part of the problem It something called expectation fatigue. We're going to go through more of these. These are kind of cognitive kind of processes, so to speak. For years, the public has been told that critical information, would soon emerge, it's going to come out any particular time And we're going to answer long time questions. and each announcement, each promise creates anticipation Th then headlines proclaim that the documents are finally being released. And then the commentators and they say, ah, they predict major revelations. Here we go, citizens and social media erupts with spectrum Stulation and excitement. and then then the release arrives in Nothing It consists of, you know, like redacted pages or nothing. information already known, by the way, this is a limited hangout or maybe material that raises almost as many questions as it answers. And after enough repetitions, people just tune out. They're tired of it. And there's another factor. It's the erosion, the destruction the what the evaporation, of institutional trust and faith. I don't know about you, but there is nothing about the government that I trust. I don't care who's in power. I don't care if it's Trump or Jimmy Carter. It doesn't matter. Because the deep state, the actual fundamental of the function, the structure of the government, that's not going anywhere. I don't care who the president That's deep state. It's almost shadow government, but that's classic deep state And confidence in government agencies and intel? Oh, and major media outlets, major media outlets are through Look at Scott Pelly from sixty Minutes, who still doesn't understand. Nobody cares. sixty minutes is over. It's dead. After Mike Wallace, who cares? Who do you think you are The sixty minutes is like get out of here. It this is there's this hubris, this idea that don't you understand. I like, Scott There's fifty, sixty, sixty minutes a day. They're called different things. They're on various platforms. You're behind the time, my friend And whether this is justified or not, Americans in particular no longer assume that You know, these official statements represent even anything close to the complete story. And then when you have major institutions You know, that once dismissed the subjects when they acknowledgeed them Because additional information exists, people naturally wonder, well what else is hidden? Like all of a sudden, they said there's no such thing as that, Oh yes, there is. The JFK files, by the way, illustrate this perfectly Generations, generations everybody of a certain age remembers where they were. Generations were told, complete disclosure was just around the corner. Yet sixty three years later, records still remain delayed, withheld or or partially redacted, or we don't know if they're complete. And for many of us, the mystery is no longer just what the you know, these documents contained, the question has become, why has disclosure been taken so long? Why? Why? And one of the things what you have to really ask and this is the best part of the why thing And I think I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it's important. One reason why governments are really reluctant and loath to to disclose anything is because They could readily Well, a lot of this day could reveal right away, but transparency creates expectations. You see, listen carefully, once you become accustomed to asking questions and receiving You know meaningful answers Well, they're far more likely to continue demanding accountability. And then secrecy is not always about protecting sensitive information. Oh, no, no, no. A lot of times it's about preserving authority, controlling the narratives and basically telling you Who do you think you are asking us questions? We could tell you this. It doesn't even matter. We don't want you to get used to this. We want you to become habituated and conditioned to the fact that we're not going to tell you anything. And sometimes it's about, you, preserving authority and again, controlling the narrative. That's the thing, the official story I learned that from nine hundred eleven The official story. They want to maintain the official story. and you being told the truth is the last thing they think about. See, there are people who almost they seem almost emotionally invested ever met these people and dismissing anything outside You know, the official story, the approved narrative, And they're called skeptics, you know. And their skepticism, you know, becomes an identity Have you met these people? They're the skeptics. They pride themselves on never being fooled More often than not, they confuse open minded you investigation with gullability. I know people say, there's no such thing as people for Look, let me just tell you something this may come as a shock to you, but it shouldn't be If you have any doubt in your mind Listen to me that there are or have been entities, life forms, critters, whatever you want to call it. that have visited us, traversed our skies, whether in actual craft Obs you know, drones, whatever it is If you honestly seriously think that this is all about Venus and planet Venus or swamp gas or water balloons, there's no hope for you. There is absolutely no hope for you. If you think this is one big, I don't know, what it is some kind of a delusion. and you listen to me, the number one enemy of truth is Neil De Gras Tyson He's what we call a gatekeeper. And before him it was Carl Sagan. And what these people do was they are told, I believe. They are told, Listen, Tyson, remember his past? He's a couple of scrapes here and there And I kind of forgot that, but we'll make a deal with you. See, it's always important to dangle somebody's career in front of them and say, now, you're not going to make us go back on our word. arere you?, no, no, no, no. You're going to be a good boy, aren't you? Oh, yes, yes, yes. good, good Now, Neil, whenever anybody brings up anything involving UFO's, you're going to be the first one to say, well, if there was any evidence of it, the firmy paradox and this other nonsense. Be Neil, if we find out that you do Anything. Remember Michio Kaku? remember him? you don't see him anymore, do you? Not like I used to. We used to he was absolutely one hundred percent saying, off course UAPs and UFO's, you don't see him anymore. I don't know where he is. Maybe I hope he's not ill. I don't really know. But Neil De Gras Tyson I firmly believe, and I suspect, he was told, if you ever want to be a part of any kind of government to program any kind of hubble, if you want your door card to work, you better make sure because they're listening to you, Neil. He's got that show with that Chuck Nice or somebody. It's the most it's the lamest thing you've ever seen Because Neil's trying to be a rock star and h but His whole thing is, if you're going to be on a ship, bring back an ashray. It's the most ridiculous thing in the world Now, let me just let me just tell you this The government, remember, irrespective, not President Trump, not Biden, the government, this permanent fixture called government is never going to allow you to get the opinion that you can tell it what to do. It may have the answer. It may have the answer. It may say, I'll let them know this. Oh, no, no, no, no. We want you to be used to it say, Okaykay, well, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Remember how long the remember when people suspected the Gulf of Tonkin was completely contrived? Yes, it wasn't until an NSA release. We say, Hey, guess what? It was right. We were right. What we said then was right And after a while, people say, you know what, let's just kind of move on. The Epstein files is a joke. I can give you a number of reasons why I think the information and they're not contained in the files, but the idea of why you are never going to find the truth that you think you deserve And the reason why is because when the government tells you, remember, this is not Trump, not Biden, this is the government. when Intel, which is its own government, when they tell you basically to shut up and pound sand What do you do? Nothing. You don't vote anybody out of office. Never. Nothing. You just say, Oh well Then you get a few people who come on and then you have some organization that does their best. The great Stanton Friedman, I was a big friend of mine. You know, Mufon, Mufon and others, they do the best they can, but nobody's really paying attention because after all They look at you like a little nutty. And if you ever want to see some wild people go to a moveufon convention. goo to it. Also go to a nine eleven convention. By the way, they have them. They're huge in Europe In Japan, they were more interested in what happened on nine hundred eleven. Th we are here because we're told there's nothing to ask right. Everything is answered right, not even close So my friends when we return, we're going to go to the phones. We're going to go to Tom and Charlie and Jemmy and Marty and George and others. We're going to be talking to them. Our number is eight hundred, eight four eight nine, two, two two, eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. and don't forget You can always reach me at lyel. news. It gives you all the information you need to know about me. and we will return after our good friend, Mr. Bill Lee yells Car Cidy roller? No take is to do the right. mister Lee who is it? They said he rollers no. I'm talking to myself. Does't matter. I'm used to it. I'm schizophrenic. And so am I In any event, my friend. Our numberers eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two two. Let's go to the phones. You have been patiently waiting. We cannot wait for your thoughts, your observations, your comments eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. We will without further ado, commence immediately with let's see Let's go to let's go to Charlie and Cherry Hill. Charlie, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel Well Lyel, I had a question for you about the Kids Online Sfety Act and I had heard what you and your wife, Lynnhal were talking about. Well, I made the mistake of listening to one of your competitors, another radioial, which I'm not going to mention the name of obviously, it was mistake listening. but I heard a commercial and it went something like this law firm XYZ, and they were soliciting clients. I think that's what they were tellending they soliciting clients described all the things that both you and Lynn have been describing what bigig tech had done The computers have done the people commit so kids who commit suicide or eating disorders and everything And that said that said for money or for lawsuit purposes, text so and so to such and such And what they were doing was soliciting clients And I was wondering what you thought about that. I mean, I think it cries out for the New York tort reform, but that's your area of expertise. on Charnie, I thank you Charlie, I thank you for your call Trt reform is the scariest concept to me. Anyime, anything limits Your ability to seek, redress Cge Court reform is an insurance company the insurance lobby is a defense lobby of oy and being a plaintiff's lawyer, maybe that's my bias. But if there is something, if you believe, whatever it is that there was something. And by the way, let me explain to you, it's really interesting now. What they did in this litigation in California recently They did not go after the content of social media. They went after the design. And I don'm want to get too much into the weeds there, but it's a completely different concept. Now I believe if somebody if a company is indeed liable And you believe you've got a claim, you should be able to go to the courts and find out what makes the most sense to you. Let's let's go to Jimmy and Greenwich. Jimmy, you're on and another side of Midnight with Lyel Hey, Lyion old, Jimmy Pro Jimmy Pro Jewast bro Lel Jimi Pro Bzano. but my friends call me Jimie Pro, and I would like you to call me that. Lionel, I love your show. You've got a great show Thank you, sir. I've ass me for quite you know me. I know you. I mean, I know you more than you know me, but anyway, that said, And I was a little gasp that you let that lady You know, rant on for for like an hour. What What lady, what are you talking about? I'm sorry. I don't know what you're talking about in your last block in the last block That lady ran on, that's my wife. That's Lyn Shaw from Ly's Warrior. What do you told? Oh, I didn't know that. Gsh, I didn't know it was your wife. Hey, Jimmy, have a nice day Thank you so much. Let's go to Marty in Indiana. Boy, Jimmy, Jimmy's up on things, Marty, you're on other side of midnight with Lionel. My., I even knew that was your wife. But I'm saying I made it very, very clear, you know, that's a good way to win a favor. In any event, Marty, how are you, my friend Pretty good I caught your last minute before the first break. So I called Jackson. I said is he talking about the case in Texas the two teenagers? I'd like to Careloon that? Yes. Carmelo Anon. Yes, sir Yes, for two days in a row, Thursday involved racism. Tavis Smiley. then today,' it's a bllack channel W BIN. I think they'reout. Anyway, let's about lets talk about let's talk about us. What is your thought regarding the verdict Well I think thirty five years seems a little high But he murdered somebody. So he could easily. But that's what let me stop right there for a second. That's what the jury thought. The jury had the chance because they do things a little bit differently. They it is the province of the jury. He could have done ninety nine Wellow, many people were saying why is thirty five years? He took out a knife and for no particular reason, in let's say you and I are having just a discussion. I say, Hey, hey, buddy, get out of here. No, you get out of here And I take out a knife And I look right at your chest and most people know instinctively, you know, that chest,' there's a thing in there called a heart. You might have heard about it. It was in all the papers. And if I were to plunge this knife into your heart, now if somebody could do a leg and you sever an artery, you know what I mean, sometimes you can have But I think it's not you can't mistake What this is for plus, he was telling people in essence, you better watch it You better watch it. He knew he had that knife. He had no problem with that. And the jury found beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt Anthony, Mr. Anthony, intentionally or knowingly cause the death of Austin Metcf. and and by the way His conduct was not legally justified as self defense, period. That's it. And I probably wor my I wordard my words wrong because I'm not disagreeing with you, but now it's become a racism thing on the radio. Now if these talk radio people and the same thing happened, well, not the same thing two years ago, my good buddy of forty years goes at a party, the sky pulled out of a gun sead of walking away, pulls out a gun kills my friend's son and there's another guy that he had a beef with, fired a bullet into a guy's foot and got he got forty five years. So I'm not disagreeing with you. probably wor stop for a second. tellell me about this. Were there different races involved in that one as well Yes, and the shooter was a young black guy about thirty years old. My friend son was about the same age. And it was like the young black man and another guy at a party, they got out of beef Andead of the guy that had the gun walking away shot three people and unfortunately killed my friend's son. But he got this tragy so. How does race let me asking you this, tellell me the racial component this. Do these individuals who feel this tremendous affinity for Mr. Anthony now? by the way, he raised, they raised almost a million bucks for him and his defense. The family ran through that, bought a house, bought, you know, pennuless now for the appeal. And I don't think there's going to be much of an appeal. But tell me how race works into this. Why did that jury respond to a black man versus a defendant who killed somebody by plunging a knife into his heart. Where does the race kick in That's a very good question, Lionel. a night. Thank you so much for. Indeed, sir, I thank you for your call, sir. It is indeed a question. And it's just like when they were saying Trayvon Martin Trayvon Martin, by the way whichich is I called that one one hundred percent because that was Florida, that was standard Ground. Trayvon Martin, let me give you a little history, a little background this one Remember when you saw Trayon Mar and you said, Oh my God. that sixth SOB killed a little boy. because they showed a picture of Crayvon when he was like in kindergarten. with little mortar board, little graduation or whatever it was. It was that? And no That was when he was a kid. He was like six foot something. He was big you know was a kid, bit like a young man. Now, Zimmerman should not necessarily have been a, you know security guard or whatever it was and he was armed pursuing legally. But with the fact they never told you And this was important that during this scuffle Mr. Zimmerman testified that Trayvon pulled his shirt up, Mr. Zimmerman's shirt up to grab his gun he was going to Mr. Zimmerman believed the gun was going to be used against him. Zimmerman didn't pull the gun out, testimony would show that it was it was gone it was attempted to be used. Now, the facts of the case are, remember they had Skittles. He went to buy he was Skittles and long iced tea or whatever it was. and they had people walking around with Skittles taped under I don't know what the story was. So immediately the knee jerk reaction was this must have been race. No, it was Florida' stand your ground law which was advocated by the people, signed by the governor.'s the way it goes, meaning you don't have a duty to retreat if where you are is legal There was a case in Tampa, or of outside P, Tampa There was a retired police officer at a movie theater During the course of the movies, the lights were down and somebody in front of them was looking at their phone. and this retire said, wouldould you put your phone away because the light, you've seen this, the light from the texting was annoying him This guy gets up and tries to push this man around. Anyway, he pulls a gun out. he's a retired cop, shoots him, kills him. He's acquitted Now, two white guysyes Where's the racial component there? What happens is we're kneejerk. This is George Floyd. And what people will never understand about George Floyd is that George Floyd, many, many many people contend that George Floyd died of an overdose An overdose. Not a knee on the neck Now, the knee on the neck to a lot of people, said, you don't understand. He had that knee. The knee on the neck, some contend, had nothing to do with killing him. He rememember he was asking for his mother. He was yelling, I can't breathe If you're yelling, I can't breathe, you can breathe So anyway, it's one of those things where it was it was a procedure, I don't want to litigate that over again. The point is white cop Derek Chauvin, who should absolutely be pardoned or sentence commuted, that's a state matter But he had that knee And that's all you needed. Ben Trump and the lionization, the apotheosis, the this this beatification of this thug, this absolute thug. Now, there was a case a while back. and I remember this I wasn't with you then, but I went through a series of cases where Black teenagers were slain ably incorrectly by the police, not because they were black, but I mean, and I went through them. So it happens. But what happens is You have the following Black defendant, excuse me, black, you suspect or in this case, black defendant, white, police officer, white counterpart, whatever it is You have then of course, this unbridled performative kabookki like screaming and yelling and who can curse and use social media By a lot of people, and I remember putting together a list on my YouTube channel of just a compilation of things of people screaming, I couldn't make out what they were saying I couldn't make out what they were saying. I had no idea, but it was vile. So anyway, I'm telling you and it's hard for you to believe, but they were ready to go. Had something gone wrong. See, this doesn't work out. A black defendant and a white victim. They were saying, can we riot? Can we riot? Got thelyb Plywood ready, shouldh we riot? Can we start looting? because what looting has to do with protests, I have no idea. I think the riot central Authorities said, No, not really. If this is a white police officer and a black kit, yes, then you can riot to your heart's content. And believe me when I tell you this, there are people ready to go. There are pockets and then BLM's going to dust off their Remember that BLM nonsense? This is an industry. And the woman colors, by the way, CO L L OR Her last name was colors. interesterestingly enough. And all of these properties she bought millions of dollars. didid anybody ever look to see? Is this the proper use of this? No Again, the way we work in our system, you' habitual way to say, Oh well What are you gonna do? Be careful. don't say anything. You don't want to be called racist. See, because in this country, instead of you being wrong, they'll call you either a racist, anti seemite, homophobe, Islamophobe, transphobe, never un American. Un American's okay No problem with that. So anyway, you know the routine. Let's go to Eduardo, a very interesting man in the middle of the night, from Tampa Bay from a body of water. Eduardo, you're on another side of midnight with Lyel Yes, Lino How could I go back to the young people you were talking with Lyn Yes. I've got a suggestion. the last period of a class day should be where you're kind of like the students are kind of like networking, talking to each other knows, computers, nothing like that and I think young people should only be allowed to, particularly in high school, only allowed to play sports one sport because they have to work also because that's going to teach them good discipline and how to save money and all that. and That's just gonna get em life. Wa, wait, wait, wait. You want to have a rule that says that people, that students can only play one sport. Yes. I think if they get into like playing two or three sports, then they really don't have any time to to get a job, you know, like I don't know, fast food or store or something like that. But shouldn shouldn't high school be a time not to work, but to participate athleticism. And by the way, there' seasons. there's football season, baseball season. It sounds like they're doing two or three sometimes you sports simultaneously, why isn't sports? I'm just devil's advocate. why aren't sports considered to be something as advantageous, teamwork, competition, good free health getting out there? Why would working in McDonald's be preferable to that Well, how about both? I mean, when I was in high school, I did half a day of school and half a day of worked. I have worked at H. Why do we want kids? but I'm saying I'm sorry. Why do we want That's wonderful and God bless you. Why do we want kids to work? That's high plenty of time for that later, but this is high school. I mean, this is if their're parents, I mean, if they can afford it I'm sorry, I don't understand. I just think it's the earlier the better because they're going to be able to save money for I mean down the line as far as owning a car, a house and all that. I think once they do that, the earlier the better they get a head start in life. I mean, why? Yeah, but this is the only time for them to be But this is the only time for them to be in high school And you know, it's Eduwarda, listen, I thank you for your call. It's very interesting. I don't know about that. Listen that work is a wonderful thing, sports are a wonderful thing. No doubt about that. but I'm not sure Let's go to George on Long Island, George, on another side of Midnight with L Lyel. Yeah. Hi, Lyel. I was going to talk about election law, but that's boring. I want to talk about jury selection. Something I have a little knowledge about, I think they may have told you to get me on this on a Fery for free. forty years in the courts, most of them in Queens, criminal division. There's a dirty little secret about jury selection. and I witnessed hundreds of jury selections. When you had an African American defendant, the district attorney would love put certain African Americans on the jury who are from certain neighborhoods. I don't want to say it. They were married. They had children, especially if they were civil servants, if they were bus drivers, court clerks like myself or whatever. they would love it. Where the defense attorney he would like African Americans from different neighborhoods. It's terrible, but that's the way it worked.ute What's wrong with that? There's nothing I'm not saying it's their perview under the law. and you're a lawyer, you know that. But I'm trying to say is this concept of jury of your peers No I thinks I think it's laughable, but that's my own personal view Well, let me ask you this. A lot of times people will say this First and foremost, they will say as follows, whyy was the jury all white? Well What if I told you that one of the in many jurisdictions, the basis for eligibility to be a juror is to be a voter? a lot of people are not voting Now the motor voter thing was which is one thing which people say, you know, if you get a license and you'll you know, you'll be either licensed or you'll be automatically enrolled to vote or to be a jurk. But the first one is the first issue is number one, do you Do you know are you in the pool itself? That's number one. Nber two During the Wadir If you ask somebody, are you able to sit Are you able to sit and be How do I say this? Are you able to be to be able to withhold judgment. You know, one time I had the opportunity where I had a I don't know if anybody knew this, but it was in a case. it was a murder case. And lo and behold, the individual who's on trial, he's in a newspaper basically shooting this person And I'm thinking this is caught on CCTV and I'm thinking, does anybody know this? So I thought to myself, I don't think I would be necessarily the best here. I'd like to be kind of kept an open mind. Now that has nothing to do with me, but very rarely am I able to say, I have my mind kind of made up. There are some people who have their mind made up. In fact, if you know if you've ever especially the way they do, don't I'm not crazy about New York jury. There's not enough vidir from the from the lawyers. I don't like the judge doing it I want lawyers to do it. The judge has a different kind of concept. You know what I mean? I like the old fashioned. But the bottom line is simply this, I want to win. And if I have a black defendant young And you will know this too, George. One of the biggest mistakes you can make is to think that if you have a black jury, they're necessarily going to look at this young man and say, o, poor guy. notot necessarily Certainly Aorry, I'm interrupting you. I to, but I will let you do that, sir. Proceed let me tell you, a black transit worker or black bus driver, you don't want them on the jury if you're a defense attorney. They are very conservative. and people don't understand it. may to something else you may find interesting as an attorney, I don't know if the audience. I also I worked a lot of years starting in like the late sixties, a lot of years in the courthouse. was a great job. I loved it. They used to have in Manhattan only where they did away with it when Robert Morganhor was the DA the grand jury was a separate pool. They used to have grand jury associations. They used to have dinners together. It was very it was like not prestigious, but there was a whole group of Manhattan Kights that was only set on the grand jury. And let me tell you, I had all these crazy jobs over the years I was the warden of the grand jury, you know, you watched on with the grand jury and all of that goes back to sixteen hundreds. The people on the grand jury in Manhattan in those days, they were from Park Avenue, all of that. they were up across society. and they did away with it because they said it was not It was not fair and they merged the pools. And the last thing Are you saying let me ask you a question. Are you saying there was a permanent pool of grand jurors? Yes, you can look it up. It's called the Grand jury. It changed it in around nineteen seventies. I don't like that either. No I'm sorry I don't like that I don't like that. No, I I didn't like it either. It was a joke. I mean, I used to have some. Let me tell you some who did Let me tell you this much Let me tell you this much, which I find Well, people don't understand, there's the grand did you read the Gan And the regular jury is a petty jury, the one for trial court either six or twelve, depending upon where it is when you have and then federal could be up to like eighteen months, you know, it's ridiculous if you keep extending it for the life of the grnd jur anyway. But a grand jurors, they get to know each other And they get to know the prosecutor. There is no defense lawyer. It's not at all what people think. In fact, they get to know the prosecutor so well that sometimes when the prosecutor has a baby or there's a birthday and I mean, it's almost like a familial collegiia thing And the idea is that the grand jury acts as a neutral detached buffer between the sovereign, the state and the individual citizen. It doesn't work like that. However, if a prosecutor wants to throw a case, let's say there there's a prosecutor who has a a case involving a police officer And the prosecutor doesn't want the police officer to be indicted The best thing to do is to put the case before the grand jury and put on the crappiest case anybody's ever seen where the jury does not return a true bill. And you could say, well, don't look at me. the grand jury you know, failed to indict. versus a case where I want to indict. It's a wonderful idea, but it's the most you can put your thumb on the scale so much to indict to basically find probable cause. Now, let me leave you with this question. On the whole, jury system is pretty good, don't you think? On the whole it is, but I'd like to leave you with maybe a laugh. a sense of humor is good on a petty jury in Manhattan. I worked mostly in Queens but a number of years I did work in Manhattan. and we do we'd have the jury pool. This is after they changed. The grand jury is totally different. You have nothing to do someday, you look it up, you talk the Grand Jury Association and they'll tell you the history of it. Okay. In a regular jury in Manhattan, I would get you know I would get great laughs. I saw horrible stuff in corporate. sometometimes stuff was funny. On a petty jury, I'd call a person to take the seat or whatever. And just the general questioning What do you doing? the usual bologoney. and one young lady gets on the regular jury and she goes, What do you do, ma'am? Oh, I'm from Ohio. A lot of people moved to Manhattan, you know, in those days anyway And she goes, Oh, yes, I'm a daner, I'm a writer, a producer and an actress Oh, that's very nice. And by the way During the trial, sometimes on a Thursday or whatever Can I have an hour off to going to the collect my unemployment insurance And we would all we would all laugh and they would throw her off. It's not a perfect system. know there are problems in the world. The idea is to get I'm not trying to be philosophical. I'm not particularly a bright guy You have to get the solutions. We know what the we know what where the what the problems are. We have to I don't we not we don't always know the solutions and J for that. And by the way, I disagree one thing. I think you're a very bright guy After all you're calling. and thank you, my friend. Please call me again. veryery quickly O time I was in a jury pool here in New York And u It was the weirdest thing in one jury pool It was like Henry Kissinger Robert De Niro, I mean, they just showed up and people wanted to be seen you wanted for people to see you. There was a case, I think where Rudy Giuliani was on a case. If I recall correctly, it was a landlord. It it was like a negligence case where the water was too hot or something somebody was scalded. and somebody said, Who in the hell would want Rudy Giuliani on the case? I said, I would I want somebody who has a brain. I don't want somebody who's predisposed or at least predisposed in one particular way. By the way, there there was a story years ago of an individual who was of not slow or anything, but not very educated, but I'll let you do the math in any of it. So the judge wasn't sure whether he understood what the oath was. And the story goes, he says, Now, Mrter soone so Do you know what happens if you were to lie under oath and you said, I win my case In any event, apocryphal, I don't know, but funny. This is Lionel with you on another side of midnight appreciated bands in American rock history, Chicago, because some of the best stuff is what never made the air. But I diagned. Let's go back at the phone, Let's back at the phone. Let's go to let me say go to Tom in New Jersey, Tom You're on another side ofidight with Lyel. Good morning, Liono Okay I have a question for you. Sure Okay, you know how some the Muslims You know how the Muslims in the United States are spreading themselves all around like roaches? And then you have the Godaways that will never find any first of all, I'm not finished yet No, I think you are. Thank you very much. Do me a favor. Muslims spreading each other like roaches. Now let me just explain something here. I know it's fun to talk about these things. And I know there are certain pockets who love to make this. But I amm going to tell you something right now, not out of any kind of politically correct anything. But to refer to anybody that is one might consider since they are a seemite as well, that might be anti Semitic. Now how can you say that? If I were to say, you know, these Jews are like or gonna roachs, you would say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. or these Catholics or, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Now I understand people have this idea about they kind of confuse Muslims and I understand. And by the way, you can think whatever you want. I don't have to listen to it. I don't have to listen to it. And I think that kind of talk is scary. Now, that's not to say that I'm not concerned about certain pockets of individuals who do not want to necessarily assimilate in this country. They want to replace. I do not want to see Sharia law. I don't want to see calls to prayer at five in the morning away. So why not I mean that's That's about practice, but to refer to this n, n nay. let's go lets let's go to James in Ohio, James. you're on another side of the night with Lyionel. Hey, good show, Lionel. I used to run the eight eighty back in the day. It's been fifty years ago at a track And I can never remember bringing a knife or a gun or some kind of sort of weapon to track meets with me. I can never remember that. We get on the school bus and we go to other schools to race them and you you're either going to win or lose But I never rembered bringing a knife with me to attract me. Well, think about that. aside from that, aside from that, if you're in a tent and it's raining or whatever is you're trying toith leave or whatever it is, And you have a knife with you. Listen, I'm not necessarily saying that somebody might not have a reason to use it for self defense. but imagine you're into just a argument back and forth pushing. you know, it's not even violent. And the law says very simple, It's very simple You can only use the amount of force, which is commensurate with the amount of force used against you pushing somebody or arguing somebody, that's not deadly force So you cannot use deadly force. againainst less than deadly force. This young man, for whatever it's worth, made the mistake of his one of the dumbest mistakes. I don't know why I could look at this and say, I don't even need to see the picture of the defendant. White black, male, female, Do doesn't matter. gay, straight. This kind of behavior is intentional. You took the life of somebody and you have no defense. That's it Well'shing there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing to this. And when people, these racial arsonists, by the way, and I thank you, James for calling. When these racial arsonists come forward and say this, it's so People just roll their eyes. It's the same habituation, the same nonsense This same, you know, there was a woman she says, what do I tell my kids? What do you tell your kids? Start off with, don't stab people in the heart. This wasn't negligence. This wasn't like running somebody over by accident. You took a knife and plunged it into the chest of somebody mean just it's so axiomatic, it's so obvious. It's almost not even worth talking about. Coming up, the means of deception that we use on each other and as well from the government. Ne on another side of midnight, stay tuned Al, Linea with you. I numberber's eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two, two, eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. You know, my friends, whenever we talk about legal matters U Eespecially now, I'm always surprised how people do not Or even then did not spend more time looking at the facts of the case and saying, let me see if I can understand what's happening here. Let me see if I can grasp this, as opposed to what I think happened You know, in twenty twelve in the Zimmerman case, George Zimmerman against who was alleged to have murdered Ge or Trayvon Martin When Zimmerman put on evidence that He was hit in the back of his head. He was being attacked that he he was going to lose consciousness, something because this Taymon Marars, know' not a slight at seventeen years old, not this little boy you saw in this. Kindergarten paacer But the jury said, okay, that was interesting. And they turned to the state of Florida and said, do you have anything to dispel that T dispute that? he goes, No, he said, Well, there you go. So they they raised the level of the argument of self defense and the prosecution couldn't dispute it, couldouldn't dispel it. In the case of George Floyd, He died a said of heart disease, fentanyl intoxication, recent methamphetamine uses, and some people said also might be the neck restraint and compression The problem that many people have is is there a reasonable doubt That exists that the police officer, Chauvin, Chauvin C H you like Chavinism is interesting. But is there a reasonable doubt? The answer is yes. In fact, what's interesting During the case The fact that it was fentanyl and methamphetamine use, underlying heart disease, excitement and stress during the arrest, possible other comorbidities the Interesting thing about this was the medical examiner said, and this is interesting. he said, if I had found him dead Let's just assume if I had found him Dad at home. This is George Floyd And I had these other factors, I would say he obviously died of an overdose. Meaning that there was a reasonable doubt You've got to prove not that somebody kind of may be assisted or You know contributed to this, there's got to be a causal connection. between the police officer and this anyyway, I don't want to get too much into the wheeze here, but the point that I'm saying, for some reason and I will never understand this, whenever people have ideas or they follow legal cases, they have this kind of an anecdotal idea You're like, Well, I don't need to know the facts of the case. Oh yes, you do Aolutely. Sometimes the cases are weird. Remember the Casey Anthony case. This was this terrible mother, Kayley Anthony, was a little beautiful girl. and she was out dancing around. She was a real tart, as they say. They even brought the cadaver dogs in And they they had a positive hit from the back or from the trunk or the boot of the car and somebody said, Ah. She must have had that dead child in there. Well, none of that can be proved. All they had was a skull. That's it With no bullet holding it, no trauma And when you look at something, it's very interesting. there are four, actually five, the four types of death. Think about this acronym NS, NAS H. natural, accidental, suicide or homicide. Actually, there's a fifth one called unexplained, but anyway, So in this particular case they found a skull And they said, we don't know. If this baby died of child died of natural causes Accidental, suicide, I know it's ridiculous, but you can't rule it on. If there were if if if there were um some type of trauma. By the way, they also later on could have, interestingly enough, they could have looked for these diatoms, this diatomic these kind of protozoan like substances that could have been in the bone tissue itself in the case of drowning. Again, I don't want to get too too deep into this, but you must understand something that whenever you talk about the murder, you have to look at the specifics. I am telling you, if you really want to get into a case, watch the Tyler Robinson case This is the fellow who was charged with killing murdering Charlie Kirk in Utah at UVU on septtember the tenth of last year And the gun The Mauser ninety eight The shoes a thirty odds six How it left this little hole in the neck, there was no exit wound how the rifle when inspected, had a safety latch that could not have been activated with a telescope on it How this young man climbed allegedly to the top of this roof the rifle together. with a screwdriver took it apart left the screwdriver up there, reconnected the gun. I mean, it's just the letters, the emails that he sent to his gay lover at the time where he said, please don't tell anybody about this. Yet he goes on discord using language that sounds like almost like Chat GPT. He changes his clothes like two or three times. I mean it is filled with reasonable doubt and nobody's even lifting a finger Not Cash Patel, not the DOJ. Nobody Nobody, it's like they have made up their mind This is the Patsy. This is Lee Harvey Oswald. This is our guy. Sound familiar? Oh, and if you I mean, if you love criminal law, this is there' so T this, there is so much forensics, not only that. They decided in that case, to shoot him allegedly, in front of everybody. There' even some thought advanced by some, I'm not an expert in this that said They actually suspected some d that there might have been an exploding microphone. he was woraring kind of like a lav because of this directional angle and how there was no exit wound And somebody also suggested that this young man who decided his first time to he wasn't that proficient. He did one hell of a shot on top of that roof. And the what people would say, experts If a thirty odd six hits a head hits Oh, the bullet supposedly they said hit a cervical collar C, I forget which cervical verteb was, but that his bones were like titanium and the bullet hit the round and then moved down, even though they can't link the rifle to anything In addition, in addition, they had gun sniffing dogs. These dogs can smell a fish fart. They are the most sensitive you can imagine. And the reason why they never picked up this rifle was because Wait for it, it never fired anything. It's the greatest story ever. But if you listen to regular folks, if you listen to the mainstream media, oh, it's open and shut Open and shut like it's nothing. Oh no, it's not No, it's not. It's gonna be a barn burner. See, that's why you can't believe any of this stuff You still can't believe even to this day John F. Kennedy. And by the way, Bobby Kennedy with Thane Eugene Caesar, Robert Kennedy Jr. brought this up. This guy, there were more bullets fired that day, then this is for Bobby Kennedy, then were available in his weapon or in the weapon he used. In addition, the stippling, the actual close contact wound found behind Kennedy's what right ear, I believe could not have been made by Sir Ananerhand, who was across the room. I mean to this day and in conclusion If ever there was a case of what looks to be kind of like an MK ultra kind of deal where they said, I don't remember, I don't remember this. Same thing for Mark David Chapman. I don't know what's going on. This weird kind of like transcendental I'm just saying, I'm just saying. But you see What they want you to do is don't ask any questions We will provide the narrative and that people on television in particular are going to have to repeat and not report And if you veer too much, you're called a conspiracy theory theorist You're called a conspiracy theorist. Did you know, dear friends I think one of the most important pieces of evidence in the JFK case is the fact that there was a round, there was a bullet hole. there was a round that was found in the windshield or the windscreen, wherever you're from of the limo that JFK was in Coming towards the car. Now as the car, is moving away from the Texas schoolchool book deepository, where Lee Harvey Oswald was How could a round come through the windshield from the front, that would be per se an a conspiracy of at least two or more guilty people. Not only that, they remove the car and remove the windshield, send it to a factory to have it replaced The car was cleaned up almost immediately. I mean, they couldn't wait to clean that thing up. I mean, the case where's his brain? It goes on O and on And nobody knew anything about the Zapruda film until nineteen seventy seven or seventy eight with Eraldo Rivera Its just, and I walk around here and I'm thinking, we are the most demented people. And they' gonna give you one more and then we'll go back to the phones. at eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two, two For the longest time I said, What are people spraying in the sky What are people spraying? Look at these planes. Oh, that's conrails Ask Anthony Kumi about how I brought him around on this I said, what? condose are condensation trails. You think that's water vapor? No, it's not. It's some type of atomized, stratospheric spray It strontium, barium, aluminum, which later on they identified. No, they're not. No, that's And they use the word chem trarail. Now if you look up in Wikipedia, by the way, which is the biggest con ever, in Wikipedia, chem trarails is considered to be a conspiracy theory. Now Rephrase it called a geoengineering and d, there it is Study after study program after program from Bill Gates to Harvard to MIT. And yet you will never hear anybody on any local TV, any weather man who loves to say, Hey Jerry, hey Joe, hey Bill. What's that? Well, that's a cumulus nebulus. Oh that' Nobody's ever said, Hey Bill, why is the sky so hazy? Could it be any of that spray that we see all the time? Never. never. Hey Bill, have you ever seen clouds like this? Those aren't even clouds. What are they Never This is their only job. They have one shot. It's to talk about the weather and atmosphere and rain and pollen count. I mean, we have been duped and you have been conditioned to just not ask any questions. ask any questions. What's the matter with you? We'll let you ask a few. You want to ask about UFO's? Great. We're not gonna tell you anything. You want to ask questions about Epstein? Great. We're not gonna to tell you anything. We just want you to be mollified and quiet. justust stupid. just be quiet. And just just keep your mouth shut. Well we're not gonna do this. Why? Because this is another side of midnight with Lyionel. Another Saturdayid night but Iin't got nobody. Oh speak for yourself. Comeoney because I just got Allright, my friends. Lyionel, We do eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. Let's go back and the phone back to the fun Pul in Connecticut. You're on another side of midnight with Lyel. All right, good morning, Lionel. W discus Vlon Martin case Did the lawyer talk to these people and let them know that if he was found guilty that he'd be getting that much time? And if they did, did they consider having the kid go on the run instead of going to court Let me get this straight again. I the Trayvon Martin, this is the George Zimmerman case where he was charged with killing. Travon actually I've me the one the Texas stabbing. Oh, Carmelo Anthony. Carmela, I'm sorry. Okay. But did the parents think about sending the kid on the run you know, instead of going to court, you know, were they seemed like they were dead set that it was going to be a You know, hu either hung jury or he up his self. You mean to tell me, you're asking, is it possible? Why didn't the parents consider having their son on the run? Yes Wh do you think he would have up a big bond if they had to put up like a house, two hundred fifty thousand, three hundred fifty would they would have lost the house or whatever it is. But why do you think by the way, they needed the they don't want him to run because they need the money to buy the house, which is what they did apparently Where do you think he would go? Europe start in Europe, good guys. Enoyment Now work with me on this one, Paul, I like your idea. We're going to send them to Europe Y just kid ight this black kid that's on the line and say, Hey, who are you? And he's going on his own will will he have anybody with him? any followers or handlers? I have a friend that went on the run. I'd rather not say the what crime was. he's like seventeen years old And he's going to go to what? Paris, Sweden, Europe, Slovenia Where would he go where he wouldn't stick out like a sword thump? Everybody knows what he looks like And you think you'll be able to I w to work with you on this. Do you think that maybe he would have somebody with him, like an adult or somebody follow him or accompany him? Well, he's nineteen now, but he could have a mother send money discreetly Do you think that he would be able to fare I I've never seen him. I would imagine, I wouldn't be surprised if he is not a rocket scientist, a lot of kids at nineteen really aren't. You're going to say, Hey, listen, good luck to you You're off to Sweden. We'll send you some money. Just kind of figure out, I don't know how long you're going be there for the rest of your life Don't say anything When somebody asks you to say, Hey, what's your story? O I don't know Where are you from? I don't know You're American, aren't you? Yeah. What are you doing here? I don't know. If you have a job? No. How long have you been here? you know. You know if I didn't knowbody, you look like that guy in, uh Thaty Cmello Anity. Thats you wouldn't be he would you? Oh, no, no, not at all I mean, do you really think that he could I mean, seriously be on his on his own He could give it a shot and maybe no, no wit wit, witait. I' work with you on. I'm not, wait, wa, wait. I'm going work with you on this. I love you man. I'm not going to say he couldn't give it a shot. Listen, I could try, you know, breaking, you know, the gold record for a gold medal in the marathon, I can give it a shot. It's not going happen. But do you really think Would you advise him of this It might be better than thirty five years in jail, I Let me try this again. Not only does he thirty five years, now he's an absconder. So any chance of him maybe getting a lesser, he's completely waived that. So he comes back, they try him again and they get him for escape Now it's going to be even worse Do you think he has the wherewithal, maybe at a young age to be able to negotiate being alone in quote Europe Maybe not But maybe not. Well, I don't know the kid personally, but Okay, Paul, thank you so much. I appreciate him myself. Paul's good though. he's sticking to that. Paul bless his heart. He go, wow, you know could be. No, the answer is no No As's like people who think sometimes, you know, u Maybe I think Epstein's alive. Really? Oh yeah, I think he's alive somewhere. Oere do you think he is? I don't know, but he's So this guy's alive. You could be. Same thing with Charlie Kirk. He's probably alive. Really? Charlie's alive. They always think somebody's alive. that you're going to be in a kind of witness protection for the rest of your life And they think that Epstein is going to go from this from Zoro ranch to The island is going be in some kind of witness protection, lay low. Don't be very ostentatious. Either shave your head, dye your hair. You're gonna have to spend the rest of your life someomewhere hiding, keeping out of harm's wayay. You're going to go from the bell of the ball where you are the I mean it's just mayaybe it's me, but when you take some of these suggestions to their logical extreme, you realize there's no way it's gonna happen. Let's go to Mary. Mary's in New Jersey. Mary. You're on another side of midnight with Lyel Hi, Lionel. I don't know if anyone told you yet, but that owl That's a great horned owl. because it's way too low to be a morning dove. And there's a YouTube called learearn tenen Owl callall the G horned ow I listened to it back and forth several times and the G horned owl is the first one that he introduces. And as a matter of fact, at the end of that list He also has a morning dove in there, which you could hear, much higher for you Do you think, Mary that when you hear that noise? The first thing most people think is, that's an owl. M Well, yeah. well I don't know. Al There's all different kinds of Alice sound different ways. Now let me ask you something and I'm gonna tell you something. Mbe maybe I'm not as learned as you. You're much more I'm not ornithologically adept than I am I don't think I've ever heard an owl in my life. I've seen him on cartoons. You know, who you know, who and whatever. I don't think I've ever heard one. It's not something like a lion or a dog bark where people say, ah, that's a lion. That's a dog bark. I'm just saying, I don't know, you're probably right. You know more about this than I do. I live in Northwest, New Jersey and it's thatal and you can hear all kinds of different birds and critters. I bet you do. Screams in the middle of the night, gunshots. I to avoys house. I have birds. Mary, I thank you so much for your insight Thank you so much Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I have never, I don't know Budy, I've never heard an owl in my life I saw one one time lateater and I scared the hell out of me because it just didn't do anything. It just kind of looked at you like, Mm, Yep, I'm an owl. Aady. What do you do? I don't know. I just I go after rats and things. I guess I' you know, if ever I love I remember Marlon Perkins, Mutual of Omaha, lot of the young kids I remember. Remember Sunday nights. It was a wonderful world of Disney. And the mutual of Omaha goes, Hello, I'm here. I'm Marlon Perkins. He was the zoo director for the Staint Louis Zoo And he had here's gidget. It was this monkey, this chimp. By the way, you couldn't get me near a chimp, a monkey ape, a bonobo or anything Their strength or strength as people say, is inordinate And when a chimp gets into fights, they love to rip faces off Bite fingers and men. listen to me carefully It is not uncommon for chimps for mle in particular, to go and rip the testicles off of another chimp or I would imagine somebody else they're fighting, in order to prevent you from reproducing. So keep that in mind, just keep that in mind to have your testicles ripped off from some cute little chimp. you can have it. You can have it. Marlon Perkins, remember that Jim what was the name? Jim Fowler? wasas it no it was it Jim Fowler He was the poor guy who had to wrestle the anaconda. while Marvin watches safely from he was in some tree. Jim would be out there. Jim, go get that wildebeest. What? You do it. What about you, Marvin? No No, I'm the Zzoo director. I don No that's your job. And we would always wait to see Jim would go out and like, okay. Remember Joan Embry. Joan Emberry was on Johnny Carson. She was our friend. was She brought us all these great animals. They would bring these wild feral, dangerous animals, and Johnny would, you know become alarmed. Now let me ask you, I'm going to ask you a stupid question. I don't think it's aupid question at all If you could have, you've got to come back as an animal. This is a deal, okay? What would you come back as? And that tells me a lot about you. What would you seriously, what would you come back as And I've given this a lot of thought And I don't like animals that do a lot of work. I love camouflage I love animals that look like others like the monarch and the Viceroy I think the monarch Butterfly has these very identifiable markings where the birds say, Oh, no, no, no, no That that tastes bad. Why? I could just tell. Well, the Viceroy actually tastes good. I maybe I've got it backwards, but the Viceroy tastes okay, but it mimics the markings of the monarch. So the birds were say, Is that a monarch or a viceer, I don't know. Well, let's play and safe and don't even bother. Just like when I was a kid, there was this we went to this thing in Hillsboro State Park. I'll never forget this. This is when I knew that I was Cup is different than the rest. And there were these u I remember this rhyme. They said, Now folks, remember there is a very similar difference between a coral snake and a kings snake. This is not good The coral snake and the king snake And one of the things which is a problem is that The there was a yellow, red, and black type of configuration. And there is a poem a rhyme I should say, and the rhyme says red touching black, safe for Jack. Red touching yellow, kill a fellow. okay? So we were there one time in the woods But this Park Ranger And in Florida where they have these people don't understand this. But I was raised with like rattlesnakes and possums and snakes. it's tropical and alligators. We had an alligator one time down the street in my neighborhood with no body of water anywhere near us. An alligator. I mean, a big one. Nobody could figure out, was it a sere? But even if it was a sore, how did it get on the street? We don't know. We have no idea Now that's industrious. So anyway, so this guy comes up, he's got the hat, you know, the smokey bear h head he goes, Now children. remember the coral snake is a very dangerous, venomous snake. It doesn't have hypodermic You know, fangs, it will bite you and gnaw you. They have to actually cut the head of it off. It won't just let go. It just bites you and moves his jaw back and forth to release the ventom, Oh my God But remember, children, the kings snake looks just like it. So here's the poem or the rhyme that you should remember how to differentiate one from the other. So I'm thinking, what are you implying? Well Because the kings snake is harmless So I raised my hand, not even intending to be a smart Ale like I said, would it not be better for us just not to pick up any snake For any reason, evenven though we're one hundred percent sure, I think this is a king. Let's don't pick up snakes. And he looked at me because I was right and you realize, you know Uh yeah, you're right. But it was a look of smartass. Now, by the way, while we're on the subject of animals, I love ' them ' I love snakes ee how good he is No You're listening to that sound. That could either be the sound of ice skating someomebody applying a squeegee to ice that is formed on a windshield or some snake hissing. I'd never heard a snake hisiss It sounds almost like somebody's scraping something It's interesting. We have a lot of noises here on the show, which is very good for you to see I'm sure somebody will call up and say, no, that's actually the Madagascar hissing snake from Pango Pango. In any event, my favorite, if you can think of this, is the moccasin, the water moccasin. These are Nasty Nasty And the water moccasin is so terrific because as you know, venomous snakes have hemotoxin, which is blood toxins. they can cause your blood to either coagulate or not Neurotoxin tooxins and poisons that attect you the nervous system and that sort thing. Myotoxins, muscles, combinations And so pick your, you know poison literally. But the thing about it is that they normally you don't have to worry about their mouth being dirty. This is a very important peopleople worried about this. I've been hit with with a deadly paralytic toxin and you're worried about whether his mouth is clean. That's right because they say that a snake's mouth is sterile. They will not eat carrion. They will not eat an animal that is a side of the road, you know that's road killed Why? Because it figures. Well, if if the snake if the animal iss dead, it might be sick, it might be poisoned. I don't want it. Except for that's right, our friend, the water moccasin. It will eat anything So not only do you get neurotoxin, myotoxin, hemotoxin, you get tetanus, all kinds of bacteria. these are the nastiest things, but there's more When you're in the various springs in Florida, there's Homaassa Wiki Watchy. you know they used to have the remember that were the creature from the black lagoon, the bottom the glass bottom boats.yw, Wiki watchatchy. But they have these springs And they had these springs around Deland, around Volcia, I remember one time I was there with a friend of mine And what these snakes will do is as you're lazily paddling your canoe underneath these beautiful live oak and these trees that extend out into the water over the springs. They're in the tree. water moccasins, I think they're part of the pit viper family. and they drop in your boat Now, the only reason they drop in your boat is because they want to do action. They want to take you on. Most snakes run, they don't have anything to do with you, not these. Oh no, no, they wait for you. They come after you. Another thing is that most snakes, isn't this fascinating. Most snakes when they're on a water, like when they're floating, they will inflate one lung and just slide along the surface. The water moccasin doesn't do that. it raises its head up. So if you're in the spring and you see a snake coming at you and his head is up versus flat, that's a moccasin. Okay, why do I tell you that? I'm not a great swimmer. I mean I swim, you know And I happen to be one of the rarest occasions. I was raised in Florida. I think I was in the water five times, six times. Not a big water fan. neverever cared for it. I like to go to the beach. I don't want to go in the water. I'm just not Anyway, so a friend of mine says, let's go to this spring. I said, All right, So I'm in this spring. I can't believe I'm doing this. Lo and behold What's coming at me? but a snake with his head out of the water. Like a little Egyptian Cleopatra boat thing, you know, where its I swam so fast against the current. think I think it was probably my splashing that scared it. But I was like Don Scholander, Johnny Weismolller, Mark Spitz. I was the fastest thing anybody has ever seen. So when it comes to animals I'm telling you, I have tremendous respect now What would I come back at I told you I like camouflage. and I like confusion. There is a I don't know the name of it. I can check, but I'm not. Maybe you can look it up for me. It' it's a fish that sits with its mouth open And on top of its head, is a little it looks like a little worm. And it wiggles. It just sits there. mouth open. It looks like a rock or something with this worm The worm is an appendage The worm is like, give here. a full finger And the fish comes up and it snaps shut and that's it No running on the Serengetti, no running on the Savannah, no running, no finding out the weakest one. Ohope, I need a code, mrter Lee. Not finding any kind J no, no, no, no, no, not even close It's this I just love that So when God said, Okaykay, I'm you're gonna to be an animal I'm going make you different. You're just gonna sit at the bottom of the ocean and just wait and you're gonna fool fish. That's for me. I love that. Absolutely. I think it's the greatest thing in the world And I always loved animals that way. I think it's one of those things which is so terrific and so great when we have these I don't know, animal appreciation. and I want to go one step further and with all due respect to our good friends at Zoos. Zoos make me so sad. There's something I am not an animal I mean I believe an animal writes to an extent. I do not eat meat. I do not no animal is killed because of me. I mean that maybe there's a leather or something. I've got leather shoes, But even that's to a minimum. For the most part, I'm not really. But I do not I don't eat anything. No fish, no shrimp, nothing No steak, pork, nothing So I'm pretty good about that. Now I do it for health reasons, not for you any kind of concern for the wherewithal of these things. What's interesting about all of this is a very simple fact I honest to God Don't know why anyone would ever want to hurt these things unnecessarily And I know that sometimes we have this weird kind of a strange, what's the word Sometimes we'll look at fish. Like we'll look at something and we'll say, Okaykay, what about a chicken Okay, can you eat a chicken? Yeah, I'll eat a chicken. What about a pork? Of course, pork. How about a cat? Oh no, no, no, no. And I've never understood this. Completely cultural. What about a horse? Oh, dear God, no, Mr. Ed, no way And I thought, isn't that funny Well, what about the leather? Well the leather all is okay, but I don't want to eat it And we have these, I guess if it appears in a Disney film or something, you'll have nothing to do with it. And I don't understand how we do kind of kind of a weird, almost anthropomorphic strange thing. We just certain the things that we deal with In any event, let's go back to what I call fun. Let's go to Mike. Mike is in a place called South Carolina. Mike, you're on another side of midnight with R Stop of the morning line are always good show Thank you, sir. I'm driving now to my buddy's place. They play I told you. I'm going to play a little poker, shhuffle the cards. But you are outstanding in what you do And I got to bring up Conbello Air today And the ramifications that came of it outrageous. You know, when I was a kid, played sports, baseball, you playaseball, listen, I've gotten into fight But when a shove comes through a shove, that's one thing and a punch. But that was outrageous. And I heard yesterday line. I heard yesterday, I'm sure you heard there were two kids of color That went to the grave of the victim and urinated. Uurinating.. There are a number of them A number of them, yeah Yeah, yeah. And you know what? this is just getting to the point where you might see a war of some kind I don't's what I said Predict. Yeah, there you go. because I could see it, race relations have not improved Now by the way, not not not everyone, first of all, if there is a war, The percentages would be it's not good when you're fourteen percent of the population to have a war against anybody. but still sizable pockets of people. becausecause what I'm hearing again is this notion of reparations which absolutely, we're hearing this again, that won't go away. That is the most speicious thing anybody's ever heard. And the thing about it is that if you ask somebody, why do racial reparations not make any sense, you know, the actual ramifications. And the thing about it, though, I don't understand is that they don't do Nobody seems to E address this. Why is this when Al Green and other people are talking about this did you did you hear Jasmine Crocket Oine about the Carmello Anthony case Are you there, sir? Allright, I'm. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, no, no. Reparations and everything I'm thinking, they're serious. I don't think it's just a joke. I think they're dead serious. I think so too. Reparations, repair for damages of what And they keep, you know, I don't like revisionist history. We've already gone through the Civil War. We've already gone through slavery and Crocket with our mouth and H teim and others, I even said on one show H teim, you better tone down your rhetoric and even Macseed Waters and everybody. You got to tone down your rhetoric because it's getting I agree with. Listen, I agree with you, my friend. I thank you so much. You know, when you look at individual responsibility versus collective, you know, a lot of people argue that People living today should not be held financially responsible for actions committed by previous generations And the thing is, how would you apportion this Who pays? And who receives? You know, most societies are very diverse A lot of Americans arrived long after slavery ended while many Black Americans have ancestry from places other than enslaved populations in the U S. So how do you determine eligibility And what mechanism would you use? And then you have to calculate the harm, you know Some people argue that there's no objective way to calculate compensation for historical injustice, not to you, but let's assume somebody in your direct lineage Th then there's the potential social division You should worry about reparations, deepening racial divisions again by framing citizens primarily through ancestry. And what happens is It is I mean I can go on and there's no really no need to. But what I find interesting, among other things is that it is ridiculous. It makes no sense. But nobody is saying, hey Stop talking about reparations. No. These people are dead serious. Very quickly, Jerry Rose in Texas, the red, yellow Rose in Texas you run on another side of in that reood lino Jerry? Oh Jmy worry, Lanel. Okay, Is it Jerry? It's very yes Okay, that's what I said, I think. How are you sir? Hey, fine. I just wna let you know I love your show. Listen to it every day. Thanks. Thank you.. than you for your support of Candace Owens Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, you must be a member of the nation Yes Oh, very good. In fact, I'm gonna have Candace on this month. spepecial guest I need need more information. Oh yeah.. Yeah, yeah Absolutely, I've got her on on my lineel Nation on YouTube. You better believe it. She is I think she's the most powerful person in media today. What do you think? I agree, totally one hundred percent She's on the mark. She's over the target She's on the market and she is able to and other people as well, there's a brand new contingent. Tucker has emerged, she has emerged. and a lot of people who, by the way are dismissed, you know, Joe Kent, Massey and others, MTG, others, there is a new configuration of political worth, you know, force. and the Republicans and the Democrats better to realize it's a new game in town. This left right stuff is over. I mean, put it this way. there's room for more. It's not as clear cut But yet if you watch cable news, they have no idea. They have no idea they have it's like people who said, o hell, this beatles. This isn't gonna to work. This hip hop music, it'll never catch on. Really. The mainstream has no idea the tsunami is coming out of them A so Jerry, my good friend, thank you so much for calling. Please call me again. couldould not have said it better myself. And what I'm saying is pay attention. Just look, but you're not going to know this if you don't look up from the accepted platforms and strata as it were. Our number is eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two two. Coming back, we will wrap up, maybe take one more call on another site of midnight with Lionel Who a snake This is name Anna Al Martin anyyway. wnder them. G great Gayson. All my friend eight hundred A four eight nine two, two two. Let me see if we can get this last call in. Let's go to Max in New York City, Max. you're on another side of Ben Night with Lyel. Good morning, sir. I the issue of racial reparations. It's so broad that it defies defies even imagination. But the fact of the matter is back in the day When people were allegedly made slaves, there was a sale involved and a document was always issued historically at the point of sale. It's called a slavers's Bill of Sle And they actually exist. You could find them in museums, you could find them in very rare booksellers. They sell them And these are documents outlining the physical characteristics of the person who was being bended their their approximate age and given a name. Understand. Yeah, I think very simply that persons today of color who allege, well, my ancestors were slaves, you have to prove it. If you can't prove it If there's no way by old church records, by old records of plantation owner states and slavers bill of sale. You have o. A couple of things you said. First of all, you said people who were allegedly slaved, I think slavery existed. I think there were slaves. There's no doubt about that But you bring up a very good point. If if you Let's assume that you through some, I don't know what you bring an action against the United States because of a relative who was doused with agent orange. Okaykay? And you were to say, okay, I want the money. And you said, Okay, now who is your relative you said, Well, I don't know. Well, where were they when they were hit with agent orange? I don't know. Vietnam somewhere. They would say, I'm sorry, you can't And this is Vietnam. This is a couple of mon. So imagine going back hundreds of years, centuries, and you're going to say, okay Mr. Max, youre', let's say you're an African American, or you're just an African. You might add you might have no connection whatsoever to any kind of slavery here in the United States. Is there a presumption that everybody who is black was the natural ancestor of slavery, That's incorrect. I'm sorry, I must thank you for your call. That's We are at the end of our rope. It's a fascinating subject. We will return tomorrow, same bad time, same bad channel Mr. William Lee and Mr. Jackson, thank you so much for stewarding the helm and doing such a great, great job. We need you, and we appreciate your work. My friends, thank you so much for listening.on't forget follow me at lynel. News and until tomorrow, remember these final words, The monkey's dead The show's over, S ya, dad dad