Debating UFOs and Government Disclosure

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And of course, when somebody finds something interesting, you will find them interesting as well. For the most part, I hope. Tonight the Knickerbackers beat the Surs ninety four to ninety, I believe And they have for the first time in seventy three years For fifty excuse me, fifty three years, they have won the championship. Okay That is of course great, great. good news, makes people happy, provroided there's no rioting, provided there's no some violence. But I have this thought experiment that I use on a regular basis And it goes something like this. I have been entrusted to explain how we humans work to a Somebody from a different planet or solar system and I say, let me explain this thing to you. And he asks me, or it asks me, telepathically, most probably they will not speak. any type of vocalization and be telepathic. That's why their mouths At least for the quitters tend to be so small, It's telepathic. but I would ask the question Ebody asked me, what is this And this evening I was listening, I had the windows open and I hear screaming and I'm kind of following along kind of tangentially. I'm actually watching old Ken Byurns documentaries on to the revolutionary War, that's what I watch And I'm not going to explain to you my viewing habits, but they're bizarre compared to most people. But anyway, as people are screaming outside, it reminded me of during the COVID period when every night at seven o'clock people would open up their windows and bang pots. It was one of the saddest moments of complete and total cultural subjugation. I cant remember. we were like barking seals in an act, like a circus act. It was so sad. But I would explain to my friend that I was entrusted to explain you know our human ways. I would say this is the first time in fifty three years that this team has won a national championship and whichich is interesting, but something long absent returns This isn't just nostalgia It's sociology. And if you really want to go back and watch something, remember when when the Boston when the Red Sox won after, after the curse of the Bambino and oh my God. But this is about sociology. This is human This is human behavior at its best Sociology, psychology, anthropology all kind of rolled into one. Human beings, we, no matter how great we are, we are tribal creatures. And sometimes these ativistic tendencies of ours come out We love rituals, symbols, symbology, semiotics, We love the way we shake hands and religion, certain colored robes and incest and inc incense, excuse me Not incense or incest, excuse me. And who cares about bugs anyway? But I digress. No, no, but we love this. The rituals and the symbols, all of these moments, it tells us that we belong to something larger than ourselves. It's in it and it it must be from something that is at least from an evolutionary point of view, beneficial And that's why ancient civilizations built colosseums and held parades stage spectacles I mentioned to you, of course, you know the Roman poet Juvenal, Juvenal, called it bread in circuses. Give people food, entertainment and a shared emotional experience and society finds some kind of Asian It was so interesting deear friends of mine from Ireland who came to this country. One in particular said, I don't know anything about baseball but I wanted to root for a team. He lived in suunnyside or Woodside or wherever. and he became a Mets fan. and he went and he immediately bought all of the apparel, all of the various clothing and all of the indications of such and And he saidays, I'm going to be a Mets fan And that's how he became an American And he went to this know who Chaseed Edie at the time, and he said, I don't know anything about your country, but I'm going to share this with you and immediately Immediately by showing people that I'm interested in your pastime, it was instant Brotherhood. I'll never forget that it was so interesting. And I always tell people if you move to if you're an expat and you are in another country findind yourself rooting for the local football team or what have you. but there's a deeper level here As you know, we live in an age right now, an epoch of Fractured attention. You know, families watch different screens, neighbors inhabit different realities. Sometimes we live for years in neighborhoods and never talk to somebody who lives next door to us. Politics has become kind of a substitute religion and social media has comple completely atomized us and transformed us into tribes of one. So when a tradition returns after more than half a century, it's not merely an event, it's a reunion. with this collective shared memory. that many people don't even realize that they missed or didn't know. And for that moment, again, if they're not rioting, people who don't normally share anything in common, either by virtue of race or gender or sexuality or zip code. for that moment, everybody's the same. Now We're also starved for meaning. You know, we binge watch shows becausecause myths are gone We obsess over some people do over fandoms, fans and stars because tribes have disappeared. We wear logos becausecause uniforms once signaled identity going back again, again, tribalism And the return of something after fifty three years is a reminder, I guess, in some respects. I don't want to make, I don't want you to think I ofm being too deep, but I don't think I've even scratched deep enough. It's that people desperately want some kind of continuity in this culture or lack that's obsessed with novelty And psychologically All of this triggers what researchers call collective effervescence. I love this. It's like that who was it Greenspan said irrational exuberance. This is collective effervescence. And the term means It's defined Lucy as that kind of an electric feeling of sharing emotional experience with thousands or millions of others. This is another thing we do. This is why it's so different and important to enjoy movies, concerts, stadia sports because you become part of this organic whole You know, you're not just an individual. you're an atom, you're granular, you're corepuscular, whatever the word you want to use. But we love that You can enjoy a movie better in a movie theater with a big screen and people around you than you can just watching it on the screen. You know it's true. The sad part is a lot of young people don't. And it's the same force behind championship parades or know rock concerts or religious revivals national holidays for just this one little singular moment. Individuals stop being isolated members or consumers and they become part of this common story. And may maybe who knows, mayaybe that's the real reason. You know, Bread and Circus has never just It was never just about distractions It was about our way of reminding people that you're not alone. We're part of this thing. It's very interesting. And that's why some animals are lone wolves, some travel in packs, some aren't, some are Very singular. It's interesting the cetacean animals bottl nose dolphins and orcas and pposes, they have a larger paralimbic system in their brain, which allows them to feel loss And that's why they're They have to stay together. That's why it's so cruel when you separate whales from pods. Now there's also something interesting. The same forces that create unity can also unleash, and this is also interesting, chaos When a team wins a championship, People sometimes don't merely celebrate a game. they expericing experience rather what people call D individualization or D individuation. This is that Gustave Le Bon crrown theory. This is the temporary loss indndividual identity within a crowd You would never overturn a car alone, Well, you can't nothing. But sometimes When you're together with others, you feel anonymous You're empowered You're emotionally fused with others. And by the way, this is why many times Dave would ask people, why are you looting Why are you looting? And some people would honestly say, well, I'm looting to get a new stereo or whatever the particular item is. But later on, other people said, I really don't know I really don't know. cant I can't really answer that. I'm not sure because you're part of this. That's the whole notion of crowd theory. You lose this individual self And then you become part of the larger group. Crowds can be good, crowds can be bad. Crowds can be terrific. Oes sometimes remember every now and then you'll hear about a story of a car that flips over and somebody's trapped underneath and all of a sudden men Usually men, strapping types will come out of buildings. They don't even know each other, but they will jump into this collective cause of lifting up the car, moving, trying to rescue somebody. It's incredible. It makes me nobody knows why they're doing it. and it's so great to see that Whenever there was a child stuck in a well or and this is all over the world, people all of a sudden said, I've got to do something here. Same thing for calls to war, calls to stop behaviors. This is a wonderful thing and it's great. I personally, it is alien to me. I'm glad they won, but I never felt any kind of like excitement or giddiness. I have no connection to a professional team whatsoever None. S me watching somebody fish. It's okay. I don't understand it. I don't connect to it It's like one of those things I just don't understand it. Walking around with a shirt, with a team. It's not so much some people I can't tell you the number of Yankees fans who I think are just children. I mean seriously children. and growing up In Florida, as I call it, Florida gators are the most obnoxious people you've ever met, they think they're superior and it's just, but it's a fascinating subject. So my friends, we have a lot to discuss. And the first question is, again, your thoughts and theories about why is it? why is it that we just lose ourselves. And also, when we look at the teams, when we look at who You know, we always we fought, we fought to break the color barrier. and I think it was wonderful in baseball. some of the greatest players of all time talk about stupid. But if anybody, if all of the if this hypothetical person I'm talking to from another planet. if I were to say, look at all these players. What do you notice about them I think people say, well, they're very tall compared to most people. That's true. You see any Cambodians on the team? No, I don't. Interesting. Why do you think that is? Maybe the H connection? yes. Now what about race Does that play any role whatsoever Does anybody even suggest Or is it possible that certain aspects of our society are better at things than others? Oh, dear God, did I just say that? I most certainly did. 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He looks up and it's twenty five. or twenty six minutes to four in the morning Which is great radio time, by the way Anyway, eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. You know whenever I always have been a proponent of this and people get very upset with me becausecause I'm not supposed to say this But I think there are ready for this? I think there are differences between men and women This may come as a shock to you, but I think there are differences. I think there are differences not only physically, physiologically, in terms of physiogomy and morphology and musculature and strength, but also in terms of temperament, emotions A diabolical nature? Oh yes. Oh, absolutely And anybody who doesn't know this has not was not lived And then there's this idea, there's this myth of this idea, this idea that somehow we all are the same. There's no difference. It goes back not so much affirmative action, but DEI to an extent, But even that wasn't that was kind of was a misnomer The idea is that we are not the same. We are not the same. We are different. And I always wonder what happens if Pay tell, what happens if for some reason, we found out that there was a group of people who might be better at something, not not Not she's different So right now, in the human populations, we are not in any way identical in every trait whatsoever, period. But neither are there reducible, you know stereotypes. So in the NBA, roughly seventy percent of players have historically been black Black Americans, seventy percent in elite distance running. athletes from certain East African populations especially groups such as the Kaenian of Kenya and the Oromo of Ethiopia, they have been disproportionately successful in world class marathons. What does this mean? It means that biology and culture and geography and opportunity all kind of interact I find the East African runners to be the most interesting. In fact, we have not had, I forget these statistics, we have not had a non African winner of any major marathon race in, I don't know, ever. I think in the first five hundred or The numbers, I don't have it offhand, but But when people grew up in high altitude, There might be some type of conferring of some physiological advantage. There's cultural traditions that value running, create role models, economic incentives that encourage people to pursue the sport. So physical characteristics that may, on an average be advantageous, there are differences in the gastrochemias in the musculature of the calf, the calf muscle. If you look at the calf, look at the leg structure of, for example, an NBA player versus u other sports where There is like a thinner calf to make the legs almost like like whips where they can move faster and. In fact, during the world of bodybuilding, historically, they noticed that there might be a difficult time certain by the way of muscle insertion. Now when you say this, I me just this is all documented.s nothing There's nothing remotely even Interesting or characteristically problematic But we are different And different is perfect. Different is fine Different is okay You don't see too many Cambodiums on the NBA because of the fact that they're not It don't tend to be over seven feet tall. The number of seven feet tall players, by the way, Now there's more seven feet tall people in the population than there ever wasalks By the way, if you really want to see somebody's physiology or physiogomy, I should say, look at Michael Phelps, the swimmer He has the same in seam. He's like six, three or two or whatever.'s a big tall guy. But he has the same in seam of his pants as a rather, well, diminutive by comparison shorter long distance runner. his length is in his trunk. So when he comes off the block, he explodes by virtue of his physiology, his physiogomy, I should say. Okay sayay you know that And I know that We know that some people get very upset. because they don't like the idea of you suggesting that there are differences. So I ask this question let me give you this, let me give you this question. and you just answer this? Yes or no Is it possible Let me say this again. is it possible Because whenever you look at something, the first question you should always ask is, is this even remotely possible? If it's not possible, why even bother discussing it? But is it possible that we might find groups of people geographically, racially, in terms of age maybe, gender, sexuality, that are different where one seems to be advantaged compared to somebody else. Is it possible That Asian samples. are better at mathematical and spatial reason, not always, but a predominantly a significant difference couldould a group of people you pick it, whether it's geographic, whether it's gender, might be better musically, might be better intellectually, might be better in terms of storytelling, might be better in terms of dest of resolution advancement. Are there others that tend to be more violent, more angry, maybe negative The thing I'm saying is if we're different And we embrace certain type of differences, why can't there be differences that are absolutely guaranteed true? but we may not like that Where do we get off with this notion of equality? Why does that bother anybody Why Why is it? Why do you think there iss this ridiculous nature? Let me ask you this question There has been for the longest time, people say, wow, it's stereotypical. Gay men have predominantly, maybe not now, maybe it's a different story. but there was a time at least when they were They absolutely fill the ranks of hairdressers, interior decorators, very, very creative fashion designers Why Why is that? That doesn't mean remember, that doesn't mean everybody who's gay is talented that. But why is if you saw a greater number of let's say nuclear physicists who were left handed, you would happen to You would point that out as well. So the question I have and this is just thinking, thinking because this is critical and this is why I love this the most because it's very it's kind of mysterious traits that we have and how we put it this way. If it wasn't for your ability to express that talent, it wouldn't matter, for example. Nolan Ryan U I think if there wasn't baseball, he'd probably be, you know, robbing gas stations. I kid, of course, when I say that, but he's not, I don't know, I don't remember I don, but he doesn't come across as some heavy intellect. But for some reason God or nature gave him particular Rotator cuff, a particular again, physiognomy an architecture of his arm that allowed the right torque and speed and durability like nobody else He was born with this. There are people who are pitch perfect, peopleople who are musically inclined But if it wasn't for baseball, you would never know this. If there wasn't something called music, you would never know who would be beneficial. And if there was not something called basketball or some type of athletic prowess where you had to combine hyidee with grace you may not even recock it may not you may not recognize this. and Because of artificial intelligence, we're also asking right now, what is it that these people have. that maybe we might want to consider. For example, is it possible to find out what type of predisposition, certain gay men have had. I'm being just blunt to find out what is it? And if artificial intelligence could figure out, ah, we've learned. we've learned how to mimic, how to replicate that particular learning style because after all it's just a learning model, LLMs and others. So the implications are huge. The numberers is eight hundred, eight four eight nine two, two two. The question I have is very, very simple When are we going to put to bed or bury the notion of equality We are not equal We should be treated in terms of equality, whereas we receive the same abilities, we're not foreclosed from entering, you know restrooms or entering public office. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay. But equity is the worst of the worst. But we are not The same We are not the same And if you wanted to do, for example, radio, let's say, for example, consulting Be careful of consultants. Anyho But you would say, well I would consult a talk radio differently than I would, let's say a sports radio than I would an urban morning show. Why? Well, I've got to know what the audience likes and what the audience doesn't like. Are the audiences different? Yes Will I take into account race and culture? Yes. and gender? Yes, and income, yes. But wait a minute, I thought everybody was equal. Oh no, they're not See, that's okay, then This is the thing which always drives me the most nuts, how people believe there's this idea of equality. There is no such thing I don't want to live in a world where there's equality, where everybody's the same. It's ridiculous There are some people who do things better or worse, depending upon how you look at it, than others, and there's no way around it. And we have by virtue of this I don't want to use these terms all the time, you know, leftist, but there's this Lunacy out there that believes that everybody's the same. No, you're not None, you're not at all. you're not even remotely the same You see, this also gets into this notion, which I wanted to discuss yesterday, but what it kind of ease into now. Speaking of psychology There are things that we do that humans do, that we do. and we see it all the time in government. We see it in politics. we see it in presidents, see it in we see it all the time. And the first one is this wonderful concept called cognitive dissonance. Now in my realm, my acolytes, my friends, we know this big time. This is that feeling that people get when the facts as evident conflict with your beliefs. And instead of changing beliefs They rationalize away the facts. You will make reality fit your wishes and hopes and dreams Look at this case recently, we talked about Carmelo Anthony. Some of the most disjointed logic I've ever heard about his almost not being responsible for taking the life of that young man, but but instead him being the victim of race. It was race and somehow the jury, this alleged non white jury, that causeed a result, not his overwhelming guilt And then you talk about people, you've heard this before, the Dunning Kruger effect. And it makes complete sense. This is the posture that that says that the less somebody knows about a subject, the more likely they are to overestimate their own expertise I see this all the time, specifically in polical political expression and political opinions. Oh my God, not only they do they overestimate their expertise, but they underestimate their ignorance what happens is whenever you're in a media situation and somebody puts a microphone in front of you and you're paid to opine, you really start to believe in what you're saying You really believe, you start to believe that what you are saying is somehow Correct Because you don't realize how little you know. eight hundred, eight four eight nine, two, two, two Where has this young man been, Vincent? Wherefore art thou? Why hast thou forsaken me?chenzer? It's a pleasure to hear your voice again and I'm finally catching up with you And when I look in the papers at the advertisements for Mr. Casmatiti shows on ' seventy seven A first I thought it was Friday night you were on and then I just I came in and I just turned on the radio and it's great to hear your voice. Well I know I told you I missed you. I've missed you. I missed you too, man. Glad to hear your voice again. Great. L know, some of these are stereotypes that change over time. Nowadays, we think that You know all people in the creative arts, whether it's music or whatever have you the stage arts A. whereereas two hundred years ago, that wasn't the case at all Bach had seventeen kids, Hydn had a bunch of kids, and so forth and so on. And of the classical composers, the only two composers who were known to be gay was Schubert and Frz Pulang And As far as the talent goes, Mozart upon his death Mozart Mozart's ears were much bigger than the average human being. So that probably contributed to the fact that he was able to hear a composition once and he could play ver betam you know, you know, it couldn't like like like they say, couldn't hide Let's take you, for example. I'm sure when you've been traveling the world, you've been someplace, let's say you roll into some place in Saginaw, Michigan, God forbid it. somebody hears you. and they hear this, oh, this Italian feller, this Sicilian feller, perhaps Named Vincent And he's from Brooklyn and he sounds like somebody may look at you and what's the first thing they're gonna think based upon Cure like A girlfriend of mine fifty years ago, her mother said, I don't want my daughter going out with some Sicilian gangster. I swear to God, that's one of the first things she said. And this was a nice Jewish girl from Kingsbridge Avenue up in the Bronx across the street from Nella Doro Bakery up there And you know, I've gotten that, you know a lot of times in my life and They don't know the whole story. they don't know my background, they don't know my education and I'll leave it at that, you know It interest all see that's what out. Line know I have a friend in Italy He has a family, has a wife, two kids And yet he has a hairdressing shop women and he' he's not gay at all. that breaks That shad is a little bit that stereotype then again on the other end, I've known a lot of about hairdressers, not barbers, barbers hairdressers who are gay. So I think the stereotype changes over time. I really, really do. And as far as For example, like when Jayalen Brunson in the last game that they lost that that French dude who's like seven foot four. Well, that guy was born to play basketball. What else is he going to do? He's seven foot four and another thing You know that they were thinking about a while back ago raising in professional basketball, raising the height of the hoop because when the game was originally conceived, it was conceived that the YH the Jewish young Hebrew organization and most of the plays a hundred years ago were young Jewish men. they weren't the height of a lot of these African Americans. So I heard that they should raise up the basket because You see these guys. they go over and they lob the ball right in But it was Nays Smith and others. But let's talk about also something about Italian stereotypical by virtue of movies and that sort of thing. In nineteen seventy two, when the Godfather came out, it changed in as many people know, it changed the complexion or the way people viewed this particular segment of society Remember prior to Joe Valacci, Remember they thought that Frank Costello, Francesco Costastilo was an Irishman. They had no idea. they didn't know anything they might have suspected But all of a sudden when the Godfather came out, this cemented almost the stereotypical character which actually was seen then in real life. because up til now In American theater or movies, gangsters are always like Richard Widmark, you know, the Jimmy Cagney, the thug, the guy on the corner or the But the idea of there being a hierarchy of somebody being a boss or being ahead of a family, it changed everything. So it's interesting how how our perceptions of things change drastically, for you to not understand stereotypes is for you to understand that stereotypes come at least initially based upon a kernel of truth There's something There's something there And then how it's expanded. So what I say is embrace it, prepare to be you know, prepared to be surprised Vincent, we are different We have trits, we have where Some people are better at things. And by the way, everybody, you may have a talent for a sport or some particular behavior that is yet to be developed. Mike. I mean, who if it wasn't for basket I have perfect pitch I had it all my life. I have perfect pitch. If I hear something, I don't need to go over to a piano and reference that note. I have perfect pitch. I was born with it That is so interesting. I'm trying to find out my particular talent, mine, it's somewhere. I don't know what it is. Vincent, my good friend, I've missed you. I wish you were well. How was your health? How was your health? How are you feeling? I'm feel okay. I've been having some dental problems, I've have to go to dentist every week to get work done. I'm having my brid crowns and bridges replaced and it's U it's Aside from the expenses, I mean, I could deal with that, but it's literally it's uncomfortable. you know getting all these injections and everything and It's you know, it it's been my teeth have been the bug bear of my life. And I would tell anybody, especially young people, take care of your teeth. you only get one set of teeth. And also floss because of the connections between Hot Inlformation, hardart to absolutely Vincent. Hot toy Dv ro your beny aside.ikio Liona Anio Thank you, J. Let's go back to the phone. back to the fun Let's go to Loretta in Brooklyn. Loretta G night with Lyel. Yes, good.ood morning, Lyionel, how are you? Beautiful. how are you I'm doing well U what you were talking about before, I just figuure we're all different flowers from the same garden. We're supposed to be different from each other I think that's a beautiful thought women will never be equal to each other because women, I have to say about my own sex, we're cats, We're caty. A so abolutely. I have different theories. I have different theories on that Women always an exception But women are not as gregarious And I think so much of what God nature had two genders, believe it or not. and somebody I think I always say God flipped the coin and women lost. They were the they said, you're going to come forward. you're going to bring the children. you're have to watch them. So we're going to make you more vicious, more suspicious, more careful. We don't want you to forget any slight. Why? Because women who think like that are better mothers than men. And I always say this with all due respect, Loretta. and I don't mean any but I've said this and I think people have copied it and it's true Men are stupid, but women are crazy Women are crazy. but men are stupid. Men are just ridiculous. You are terrific That's true. Listen, my darling, I thank you so much for calling. Thank you so much. M you In upstate New York, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel. Hello, Lionel How about Martin You're absolutely right. Women are crazy and men are stupid. I can tell you from experience But I think you just had Anyway, Vincent Rcks. I like Vinon. Absolutely. He's a good guy So here. My thing is I agree with you that we're not equal. We're not all equal We have traits that are different. We have some people more intelligent than other people like Elon Musk, for example. He's he's a very intelligent guy and now, you know, he's got to be a triillionaire at this point, you know, justs because he's pretty smart guy Then you got these Is he Is he smart because he's rich or rich because he'sich he's rich because he's smart I think so anyway. Are all smart people rich and are all rich people smart? Well, I'm smart and I'm not rich, so no. But anyway, anyway You got these morons Whether the Kicks win or whether they lose They feel compelled to go out and destroy things. I mean, these people are really stupid people. Why do they do that? Explain that to me I don't know. I mean, I'm not a moron. I can't explain it. So I don't know you don't have to share the trait of something to be able to . Why is it that people do this? It's one of those things that I never I The name is M mentality, perhaps, M mentality Everybody else is doing it. Let's all do it together Exactly as group think? Absolutely. And you also lose Your individual sense, Martin, I thank you for that You lose your individual sense of responsibility and you give yourself up to the collective morality of the group We're gonna to talk about this and also more perception and the realities of life, all of that coming up on another side of Midnight eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two with me Alionel. All night long This is another S of Midnight with Lionel This is another sideide of Midnight with Lionel Now to the Bernard McGurk stududios, here's Lionel Allrighty, Linea with you eight hundred, eight four eight, nine, two, two, two, eight hundred, eight four eight, nine, two, two two We're talking about among other things, interia, as we say. I love this idea. See, first of all, I don't get offended Um, I might get mad, but I don't get offended. Nothing really offends me And I don't understand why people would think That we are not all different and that sometimes that different is difference is because of who we are and how we're born and traits that we have And if you don't think there are differences in Physiology, physiogomy, intelligence, talent For a variety of different reasons. If you don't think that is, the question is when it's attributed to something, that makes a difference. You understand this? Let's go to Michael in New York. Michael, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel Hi, Lionel. To your point earlier about different cultures and different attributes, one of the things I found and even one of your callers said he had perfect pitch, onene of the things I learned or heard while back was that Japanese in general have perfect pitch at a rate of around thirty percent, where the rest of the world has perfect pitch at about three percent. So that is beyond a statistical anomaly. And one of my guesses is that as I understand it, I don't speak Japanese, but pitch and intonation actually is a big part of the language. Words could mean different things. based on the intonation of it. So I wanted to throw my two cents in But do you think But do you think that maybe the reason why There are people who are better at let's see who are pitch perfect And you can mention intonation Because in order to speak that, you have to develop it as opposed to Japanese people are born with it. See, that's a different story There are people different cultures, you might be able to appreciate certain things. You might have different sensitivities to light, to whatever it is based upon where you're born. But the idea that Whver we talk about why there's a predominance of black people in the NBA. and it was so interesting. There was a time when, of course, because of racial stupidity, you know, Bob Kzy, John Havlak, once black players came in with Bill Russell and Will Chamberlain, it it just changed completely. And the thing is now, is there something Not all black people are talented athletically? Of course not. But when you see somebody, when I can look and say, what do you notice you can say, well, they're tall and they're mostly black Is it cultural? Is it there is it because they're able to this is something that in this particular culture where basketball is you're more adept to it, the same way that golf or other particular sports were Have you ever noticed why is there such there were moves to train, not train, but to teach black kids how to swim? Because the rates of drowning, there was this cultural this disdain for swimming and all of these And whenever you dare to say this People went to their immediate their knee jerk reaction and saying, it must be racial. It's not racial. We're different. I remember one time, by the way, thank you for your call. I remember listening one time to a fellow talking about how fashion designers, this was men's clothing, men, how certain clothes, the cuts of certain clothes are different depending upon a style Depending upon not all black men, but some wereere different, there's something called statopgia And when you this is absolutely documented in some particular groups, some particular aspects, there is a there is a large prop it's not a large kind of redundant, but a propensity for large glutes different musculature, completely. You've seen this. Thank you, Michael. Thank you very much. But what I'm saying is for you not to see this It means you're not paying attention You're not paying attention I one time said, explain to me the differences between just looking Chinese. I had a friend of mine who could do this, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other variations. And my friend who's Chinese is, so I can tell you immediately Be mayaybe because they're more attuned to it This isn't racist See, that's the part I want people to play emmbrace the subject. It's this it's this diversity we' talk about diversity. It doesn't get more diverse than this. Coming up, the tricks and the mind games that we play in crafting reality Some of the most fascinating things that humans do, all coming up on another side of midnight with Lionel eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. Stay tuned my friends . It's another side of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk studios here's Lionel. Allrighty, Lyionel with you. Oour number two of this thing of ours are numbers eight hundred, eight four eight, nine, two, two, two, eight hundred, eight four eight Nine, two, two, two There's a fellow by the name of David Epstein. David Epstein is a member of Ted Talks. You must see him. You can go on YouTube and watch him. and he talks about how athletic performance, how it's changed over the years. And a couple of things which is very interesting. Um If you take American men, Listen to this fact Between let's say twenty and forty years old who are at least seven feet tall Okay Roughly fifteen to twenty percent have played in the NBA at some point It's a fact Think about that. The probability an average American male plays at the NBA is roughly one in several thousand The probability of a healthy seven footer in the NBA is one in five It's not because seven footers are better people, it's because basketball, of course rewards height Listen to this one, another one, these facts, which I find so interesting. This is the notion of how the dominance of East African runners It could be altitude, fast twitch muscles, who knows? And whenever you speak of muscular toure people get crazy because you're thinking, o my God, this is what they this is the way they treated black slaves and men catle and they' like, No, we're talking about reality. So anyway, today the men's marathon record is held by Kenyan runner Sebastian Sowway SAWE at one fifty nine thirty it was set in London in April of this year. Okay? The second fastest marathon ever is by Ethiopian runner, Yomif Keela, one fifty nine forty one Think about that one, fifty nin eleven seconds before them The record was held by Kenyons, Kelvin Kiptum and Eliel Kipchoggi In fact The men's world record has been held continuously by Kenyan or Ethiopian athletes for nearly two decades The concentration of the very top is extraordinary. One recent analysis found that nineteen of the twenty fastest marathon times ever were run by athletes from Kenya or Ethiopia And eighty nine eighty nine of the top one hundred performances belong to runners from those two countries It's it's just It's incredible. Now what does that mean? Nothing. It doesn't mean anything. It just means that there may be a difference How about this? How about Michael Philipps? Michael Philipps He he looked a little little a little faudo, you know, a little little stonade, but still he was he was Good, excellent His physiology and physiogomy, his morphology was incredible. He was six four His wingspan was about six seven, longer than his height. hisis wingspan. He had short legs for his height, reducing drag He had large hands and feet functioning almost like paddles Extraordinary shoulder flexibility And he produces unusually low amounts of lactic acid during exercise. He was a freak Now we also look at these things, which is very interesting Jesse Owens, Jesse Owens, because you say how would he compare today? In nineteen thirty six Jesse Owens ran one hundred meters in ten point three seconds. on a cinder track wearing primitive spikes You had to bring your own trowel so you can dig a little hole for you to put your foot into to take off. Today we have different substances or different track surfaces that cause more of a bouncy kind of a feel And this David Epstein notes that if you account for modern starting blocks track surfaces, shoes, training methods. Jesse Owens's performance would compare well, if not better to later eras. In fact, the point is that Jesse Owens would beat today's sprinters, but that technology and training made the difference. So it's fascinating. So when you see yes right, Jesse Owens Yep, him I find it incredible. I love the differences between men and women I think they are the most. I have if you don't know if you if you don't know this If you don't know this, That's no help for you. And if there's one thing that a father can do for his son in particular Daughters too, but son, you could say, let me explain women to you. And And when you say these people people get, what are you getting at? I'm not even going to apologize. If you don't know the difference how they are, you could see almost immediately There is a propensity, a predisposition, a proclivity, a ancient des pensons, they say, for girls to love mommmies and dolls and carriages without anybody telling them It's almost Hardwired There was a study years ago where if you gave blocks to little boys the boys would stack the blocks up. See how high they could stack them. Women spread the blocks out, almost like making a home Women are far quicker in terms of verbal development than men. Absolutely. And there's a men tend to be serial killers and criminals. Women don't But if ever there was somebody that showed a ferocity. the likes of which you can't E imagine look at nature and what a woman, what the dstaff or the female version is. You know Lions or any kind of predator, they don't get mad But a mother a female mother if anybody tries to take a child from their brood, they get mad. They get very it's an affront It's a territorial sense of yours. And by the way, it's not that you're taking you're coming into my area. You're trying to take my brood. So let me ask you this, do you think over a period of time that nature prefers a woman who tends to stay home more to take care of children? Do you think maybe nature tends to prefer a woman, a mother who is not as for lack of a better word, social As manen, Men have, let me ask you this question. Let's say a man is going to throw a surprise party for his wife, o? And you went to, let's say your wife's B friend, whoo is it Most probably probably a member of the family, usually a close sister or a close friend It would be the cheapest bill compared to a man. If a wife said went to her husband's friend I said, how many of My husband's friends should I invite to the surprise party. He's got more friends than you can imagine. Now granted, they might not be deep, they may not be, you know, profound, but men are far more collegial. They're far more Gregarious, sorry, sorry. It's true. And if you don't know this, and there's always a woman says, well, I've got friends, N, not, no. No you don't, No, you don't. No, no, no, no A woman And I say this with all due respect. this is so sad More often than not a woman's worst enemy in the workplace or in life is another woman. Usually a woman her age There's a cutthroat backstabbing that's all too common. And you've got to stop that. Men are different, completely different, completely different. Now granted, like I said, some of these friendships may be, you know less than deep, but this predisposition starts from Nature Um, um kind of preferring this behavior, if that makes sense to you. It kind of prefers this behavior. So it models it. There is nothing, putut it this way If you believe in Darwin to an extent, there's some parts about Darwin, I think it makes a lot of sense, it's not foolproof. You understand that because of adaptation, because of shaping, because of a lot of things, we are different Believe me, we are different. Let's go back at the phone's back at the phone. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two Allen on Long Island. You're on another side of Midnight with Lyionel. Hi Linea. yourour conversation with Vincent was Nixon for stoning and tremendous. Give yourself Jl. great. Vin Vincent. he's a great He's a great man. I love him orry's tremendous. The thing is when it comes to like you might call it a stereotype or anything and I'm not going to use any stereotypes in this school, but a certain ethnic group was used in movies, movies the gangsters, not all of them, but a lot of them And it was just done I think because they felt it had an appeal. But if you really look at it, like I mean, what was Whitey Bulger doing up in Winterhill, teaching Sunday school C kids and play away with girls? You know, so we know anybody could have fit that role. And I also look at it this way too You talk about people ripping to join up after a team wins a championship everything. They do it because they get away with it. And Liono, can you get Tom Jones as a guest? It's not unusual one. Have you seen him lately e he's eighty six or eighty seven? He is fantastic Let me go back a couple of things differenterent stereotypes for movies and the like If you're going to do A movie about what we would call the ECN Kosonostra mafia, whatever you want to call it, the life in an organization that has as it's a requirement that you be of Sicilian or some type of ye hereritage And that can be very Do you know that the number of Jewish actors who played interchangeably with Italian actors and also the amount this I thought of was so funny in Hogan's Heroes, the number of Germans who were Jewish actors. But here's the thing. If I want to, I'm not going to find a lot of Swedes who are in the mafia. I'm just not. So consequently, if I want to have something that looks like the sopranos, I'm going get people who not only have a particular maybe the name or the look, but who understands the essence of it. By the way, there's another thing too Whenever you talk about movies, remember Charlie Chan, Werner Oolland, Swede. I thought, is I don't know if that's racist or not, but do you mean to tell me you can't find a Chinese actor? And Key Luke was his N one son, but there was something wrong with that. That always bothered me. It's like a version almost of black face. Alan, I thank you for your call. This is something which again, I always I always er O rather I get away from the notion of people being offended. I'm a realist. The only thing I tell you is that what I'm telling you is true. You may not like it. It may not be something you're proud of. It may not be something that we want to glorify But what I'm saying is absolutely true. And you'll never hear me come up with an idea where you say to yourself, Where the hell did you get that from? Oh, I got it from someplace. You just may not like that because people love to dupe themselves into thinking that everybody is Ientical, We are not identical. and that's good. That's simple. eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. and also coming up how we delude ourselves in terms of thinking, You're going to love this. I find This is another side of midnight. This is Lionel. The number one more time, eight hundred, eight for eight nine two two two. It's another side of midnight with Lionel This is another side of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk stududios Pers Lionel. He still can sing eighty six or eighty seven now. Sounds better than ever Another side b I with you line eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two Have you ever heard people give you statistics that you don't like that they will immediately get rid of For example, if I were to show you What about crime If you look at the U. S violent crime rate, Harvard studies, I can give you this shouldn't shock you. homicide robbery disproportionately higher among blacks based upon FBI, UCR data, victimization studies. Much of the arrest disparity aligns with self reported offender identification data through policing and justice systems. Here's one for you. This is from Research Gate. This was a meta analysis. This one, people hate this This is a meta analysis of American race differences in intelligence Meta analyses of hundreds of thousand show average differences with white mean at eight at one hundred, excuse me. East Asians one hundred to five, whites one hundred Hispanic eighty nine. and according to this, Research gate blacks eighty two to eighty five. These hold across IQ tests, SAT, military testing, with similar variances across groups. The gaps have not closed substantially. sinces in the sixties and seventies And when you show when you tell somebody this And again, I didn't make this up. I will give it to you. It's research gate. you can read it. The meta analysis is there People go berserk They absolutely go berserk. What about the book Bell cururve? Bell cururve was incredible. This is Charles Murray. the Bk curve, this is one of the most controversial social science books. ever published, ever. It was by Charles Murr and Richard Hearnstein And the book makes several major claims. They're still talking about it. One, intelligence as measured by IQ tests, is a meaningful and measurable trait And the authors argue that IQ correlates with many life outcomes, including educational attainment, income, occupational status, likelihood of poverty, crime rates, welfare dependence IQ is substantially heritable And they argue that genetics plays a significant role in intelligence though they acknowledge en virental influence as well Next, IQ is substantially heritable. I think I said that. Three American society is becoming more cognitively stratified And the book claims that highly educated and high Q individuals increasingly marry one another and clusters socially and economically, creating what the authors call a cognitive elite Then IQ predicts outcomes and independent of social class And what's interesting is when you go through the actual findings People will, as you can imagine show take great umbrage at the finding Rather then asking, is it true So what I'm saying is simply this. it's just a very simple question. Remember averages are, you know it's statistics means im median. but if there is, for example, a difference that you can see in Looks height Hir color I shape, you know, an epicanthus nose, structure, ears, musculature, I remember one time we were at a place in I think it was Staint Paul, and I had never been there before So I'm having with my friend her husband, he's friend too. Anyway. He said, I want you looking around What do you notice about these Minnesota types and I looked I said, I don't really notice. He says, They're all huge. I said, Oh my God, you're right. They're Vikings. They're like from Norse ancestry. These people were sust huge I didn't I wasn't paying attention. This is the beauty of population clusters and the like. Nobody took off offence at that Nobody It's one of those things where and unless you I mean it wass funny to. So what I'm saying is, if an Asian can look different if the difference between an African American, an Asian, Hispanic, you can look at people. In fact, when you are giving a description to the police, what do he look like? think it was a Hispanic male Asian male, sometometimes you can't really tell. Asian, black, light skinned, biracial. You know these. You know these things by virtue of how you've lived And what you've seen And for you to pretend they don't exist is absurd. Let's go back to the phones, back to the phone. Let's go to let's go to Nick in Virginia, Nick. You're on another side of midnight with a linel Hey, Lionel Long time not Nick. How are you, sir? I'm great. Good. When you started talking about difference between people, you know, we're not we're all different. madeade me think of Lostster Boy U Whenever style. We had our Excuse me Grady Styles Oh, so I'm sure you do know about Hitman and his d. He was from Florida. He was we prosecuted him. Grady Styles, he was he had electrodactylly. this is split hand or split foot malformation. He was in the circus In ninety two, he was murdered in a case involving his wife and her boyfriend hiring a gunman and he was a very violent yeah, lobster boy. Yep. Anyway, go ahead, sir. Well, Well, I didn't know that about him When I was a kid, right after school left out the first week of June, we had our fireman's carnival and he was there every year maybe for about five years. And I got to see him when he was young and What did he do? You never saw him Well, it wasn't much. It cost twenty five cents And And he just sat there And he explained his condition, but not really it was like because they they be, you know, they they build him up the guy out on the speaker, you know, he's half lobster, he's half man, you know, and you get in there and what made you What made you think of Grady? I'm curious Well, you said the differences between people. we're not we're all That's true. Well there's nobody more different than Lobster Boy. That is correct, sir. That is correct. Interesting how you went to Lobster Boy know it was just he made an impression on me when I wasng, I felt so sorry for him and, you know, and he had a can of beer behind him. and you know, my dad was an alcoholic, so I, you know could relate to that, but well do you know just do you knowness There was a group of people. John Ringling for his his Kadzan, his his famous kind of a mansion on Sarasota Bay next to the Ringling Museum, he had he was of course, Barnaman Bailey's and summer Florida was their summer retreat. There was a place outside of Hillsburg County called Gibsingon. and Gibsingon still has a variety Maybe not as much now, but there was a time when this is where all of the circus performers, the freaks, people with who wear her suit and had hair and people whose color of the face was dyed not died, what am I saying, but but were You know, blue blue skinned and you know midgets for lack of a better word, tall people. So they lived there And my friend actually had no idea was passing through was doing something outside of Tampa, outside in Phillsborg County and showed up in Gibsonton and went into this bar And he walked in and the best part about it was that he had no idea, but it was the Star Wars bar scene. Imagine you don't know this, but you walk into a bar and there's circus performers, But you don't expect to see it But all of a sudden you see somebody who's three feet tall, somebody who's eight feet tall, someomebody who's I mean, it's it's this It's incredible thing. But these are people, by the way who only found satisfaction there. And they were they were the rarest of the rare. Think about that one. and they they they all lived in harmony for the most part. But Grady was Grady was a different story Yeah. Well, can I say one more thing, Lonel? In danger I had an old friend that once told me He said if you think all men are created equal, you've never taken a shower in the county jail But what do you mean by that Well, I guess if you're looking at other men, you're not all equal, Do you find yourself looking at other men I'm just kidding you I'm kidding you Yeah ab not naked. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, my friend, donon't ever change I mean, that's eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two two. Let's go instead to let me see. let's go to Peter And I guess New Jersey, Peter, you're on another side of Bennight with Lyionel Yeah, hi, Lionel. I was thinking comically tonight about the hundreds of thousands of PhDs, doctors of philosophy coming out of universities. And I thought that all of us WABC listeners We got college credits for listening it would add up and would have hundreds of thousands of more PHDs And then we could add we could add to the sermon on the mount, blessed or the stupid Peter, I thank you so much and I ask you again to call me in the future. You are wonderful. Thank you, sir. Anthony in New York, you're on another side of Night with Lyel Any Anthony once And then need dinks Let's go to Tom in Chicago. Tom, you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel Hey, what's going on, Lo? I love kind of conversation, man. It's right. But you know, people get emotional when you start talking like this and I'm black. you know, So Yeah, yees, it's crazy. But think about this, who does who's doing the judgingough like you say basketball, right? We tall or that Be Blacks was led into basketball. We was playing basketball So when it's like, oh, oh, could bring him over here, but we was it was like he's good at it.. So we were shunned in it, right Right. So once you it was like the discovery of like football, or we could be quarterbacks So once now you're looking the league now, it's like everybody is black quarterback. So that's what I'm saying. It's like it's always been here. It's just when you get the person opportunity to show those things. E when you say, swarmy Now in America, yeah But if you go to other places, you can throw a I'm pretty sure you go cruise shifs they throw you see that people throw quarters and stuff in the ocean and these kids deep dive and go get them. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like it's like where like like NBA doing theyre doing a change now what they going to give white players from other countries don' no, but what I'm saying is in the United States, there was there has never been this is I've always said there is absolutely Nothing about buoyancy or 't work like that. It doesn't work I say it doesn't work like that. I agree. No no, but but women, same thing about black folks perhaps playing hockey. that has nothing to do with sther one too or black Black sigures in country music, which is another problem. But let me tell you this It was in music. It was blacks and country music though. It is a fun But women you do know though that in the cities, the number of there is a Back kids don't have the same opportunities. In fact, there was an inord amount of black kids do And there was this There was this like almost I don't know what it was. Maybe you would know. you might know something more about this, but it was almost like an old like a cultural thing against swimming or pools. I don't know what. So there was a concerted effort to prevent drownings by teaching black kids like all kids how to swim. And is there any truth to that? But see, that's the thing I don't get. And in the city of Chicago right now, the pool is getting ready to open If you go to any black neighborhood pools are filled with kids and they ain't got past nine feet You know, that's why it's like it's like the stereotype again that says, Ohh, you don't want to swim swim. Look at Bob Seden, right? Jamaican bob. The Jamicans rememember the Jamaicans? Right. Jamaican is bob Sventeen. So who who is who doesn the jud the judg you know that You know, who who's saying? Oh, now they they're better now. it always been here And it's like you're just letting the opportunity to position itself and people take advantage. I mean take the opportunity and do these things and people, Ohh, look, I know you can read. I know you can do this. I know you can do that. You know what I'm saying? until you're giving opportunity like CEO's right now CEO' doing all these crazy things. How many black CEOs do you see? or hear about If it ain't pertaining to music. You know what I mean? So the opportunity ain't there. So when you get one, like, o, look, they can do it. They can do it. Yeah it's also if you're a different person. For example, if you're let's assume somebody who's looking at the NBA rosters And the NBA they let's says say somebody who's into kinesiology and physics and you know training and looks out and says, what do you notice? Now most people say, o, black people But what if somebody who knows says, well, I see a group of people with different muscle twitch or muscle this, or somebody who has a different I'm looking at the length of this They not even notice this color at all They may be runages. likeike melatomin and non melatomin, right? Yeah. It is you walk around Chicago in the wintertime. It'd be like white babies with no head on. and they' like, Ohh, he looks so cute. He's got rosy cheeks. The baby cold This people ching. Rosy Rosy This is like exact. Ry cheeks. You were like you co.ight It's like you so they train you train the baby to grow up to be used to the cold base You know what I mean? And I used always like, man, why do they do that? You know, you should grow women and men with hats on, but the kids don't have no hat on There is a there is I don't want to mention their name. I think you even know them, but you know, in from Tampa, we had a lot of great baseball players You know, Dwight Gooden and Lou Pineella and Tony Larusa and Wade Bogs and Tina Martinez and Dave Magadin A lot of them went to these two different high school. I mean, they were all there I knew this one family And one of them was he a baseball player And I swear to God, Tom You would think whoever made their arms, It's like like their arms were longer. And it's like and I thought to myself, they were freaks until somebody gave them a baseball and said, look at the torque And it's like they were like the greatest athletes ever. Now if it wasn't for that, If it wasn't for that talent, you'd put him in a carnival. You' say, the hell's the matter with this guy. He can't go to his jackets must be custom made. These long arms. But we have these different these things, You know, what's funny about how sickle cell was an adaptation that certain that black populations had to account for or to war against malaria. Yeah. But then when they moved elsewhere to higher elevations, it was counterproductive. I mean, it's just all there's Tayax and Jewish But if you' traing. I'm sorry, go ahead. Well I getar what you're saying. But think about this, when you say like the behavior training, like Why does people act like this? Is it a trait you know, like when you basically say pedophile Is it mainly white men that does that? Is that like a trait You know, you hit it a lot. You know, even when I watch CSI and these criminal shows. the first thing they say, I know it's for the TV raising manbe, but I'm like, no, wait, even to catch a predator. mostost of them guys be white. Yes. Oh, absolutely. And in fact Not only that, most predators are male. And I guarantee you, there hasn't been if you had the number of serial killers, forget it. Right. Now for some reason Now the thing is So listen to this, what if I said to you, why do you think there was such a low propensity or proportion or propiquity, I guess for black people to be serial killers? Now, one thing the optimist would say, well They don't have that antisocial trait They don't have that vindictive animist that would hurt. Or if you were not inclined, you would say, they don't have the organizational skills of your more prolific killers. They' like, wait a what? Same thing with learen. Let let's stop all this for a moment. Forget black and white, That's boring.get Men and women, that is the greatest of them all. I don't care who you are Anybody, black, white, Asian, men and women. So when I see people, a man who walks around and says, I'm a woman now. I'm feigning menstruation. I'm going to have a you know, mammoplasty. No, no, no, you're not a woman ' but't Lino, you got any you got you got girls You You have a daughter? Okay. Think about this Most of the time, a lot of time from what I see, women act that way because father's in the home. I got three girls, right? So it's like we kind of like raise them to be crazy Like say your boy get a medal or something like that. and you don't be like sometometimes you're like, oh, yeah, that's what you need to do. You're supposed to do that But with that girl, you better clap. You know what I'm saying? You better clap, Cheer on. Oh, you can be she can make a pie or a cake. and it's nast as hell. And you got to say, o, this is great You know, seeed the ego. So now she's going with this ego says I can do anything. noobody judg me. Nobody does this. Well that's interesting because that's the that's the u How do I say this? That is the same argument against people giving trophies to people who don't earnight. But what I'm saying is aside from this, all you have to do is just watch, just watch Girls and boys without any prompting, just watch them. And if you don't see differences, if you're not paying attention.. There are so difference Yes. and also Do you know there' there's this let me just say something. There's this idea that says that when you are asleep, when you're doing REM sleep when you are sleeping, you will for the most part, have How do I say this? you will be paralyzed so that you can't act out You can't act out your dreams. When you're in Remsleing, rapid eye movement, your body's paralyzed because it doesn't want you acting out now The reason why I think not that they made men stronger than women. I think they made women weaker because let me ask you this. canan you imagine if you took the angered disposition of women and gave them superhuman strength At the same time, you would have. Yeah. You would have lim like a barbie. That's what you have That's what That's what you wt have You would have some but you would not have a serial killer. But let me ask you this, if women ruled the world, what would wars look like? Would we have the same numbers? Would the world look the same would you would you have for example, whenever you have ads for joining the Marines, it's always, you know, the snare drama some guy hit the attack and machine guns. if women Were the combatants? What would it sound like See, now we get into male Chauvinism now because here it is with women They be like, okay, we got these colors for our uniforms, you know No, no, you know, I don't what I'm saying is I do not think that there would be that there I think that there would be certainly gressive But I don't think they would necessarily want to destroy, kill and maim as quickly as men do. I would say this is another one say like you said, like you said, if you they want to get another woman that's another in another country I think Dan, like you just got do say before it becomes like brutal d real real life Let me ask you this. changing this subject. S just just for a second. Have you seen Like, for example, if two men meet Like if we're having a drink and someone friend of mine comes andays, Hey, this's my friend Tom Hey, how are you? It's like almost like almost, hey it's almost like deliberate niceness. Have you ever seen two women meet for the first time? The way they look at each other up and down Have you ever seen that Oh, it's crazy Oh, it is a look of it is almost like When you go somewhere, like you say, your wife can say, Hey, let's over my friend house. You say, Hey, this is Tom. you just met him. just met me. Hey, this is Tom. Hey, how's it going? We sit down we can have a great time. Yeah. You can say for the same we would say, Hey, we going over to Tom's house. And have your wife come in and's like Wait a minute, I got to fill out. I can't I just can't do it. you know, Be like, what happened? What what's going on? I can't I just can't, you know, they had this. I mean, shes tried to do this to me. I'm like, No, she didn't. You know what And it's always like but it's also thing that going goes in a head, man. don I don't know.' right is. What about this one? Here's another one This is very. This is not by the way, this is not show this this is perhaps would be stereotypical. Two people are in a bar, watch two men they they're kindind of apart. How's it going? Great, Howousing terrific. How's the family? Great. Fantastic. Your job is awful. Yare your kids are driving you crazy. But we always say great. We don't say. Now, watch two women. and the first one is they'll lean in and they'll say like, well how did that make you feel You're not going to believe what happened. what happened? And they get closer and they almost like confide. Now we're almost projecting everything's great, everythingthing's terrific. where they're great. Women have no problem in telling each other exactly what the problem is Be I leave you withay attent they go they pay attention to detail. say Like my wife would come in and say, I'm going to the store and I say, okay. But if I don't ask, what store, what you getting? this right here. And she ask I didn't know you were Well you't ask. dail with now. Now. Fal final one, this is the one that is really important. In terms of the differences and how these things work, a there is a tendency for I see, this is this is observation, nothing else. There is a reason why they are different and the reason why they're different, I still think it goes back to the fact that nature has given them whether they have children or not, the ability to be mothers, to protect the brood And consequently, they do not necessarily want to be as they're not as gregarious and as friendly towards others. But if you want to have a juror and you say who's telling the truth Who's watching? Women are the best. Absolutely. Now we sit here and ask. Now let's think about this kindindergarten, right? Wh you need nurturing kindergarten teacher. I had asked my wife, Hey, would you rather a gay dude teacher kid or a woman She said, it doesn't matter. I said, yes, it does You know, it matters because that woman to me is more nurturing, like you say, she she knows her group. She she there's this this mom thing, that internal mom thing that kicks in you know, and with us, we have to be taught what a gate to being doesn't have that quality that that wom. let me leave you with this. I think what you're saying is this a gay man is primarily a man The gay is secondary. The male and female. That's the bottom line. Tom, I've enjoyed My my friend, please call me again. This is Lino with you eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two and this is another side of midnight. All night long, this is another side of midnight With lion oel This is another side of midnight with Lionel now to the Studio's hereers Lionel Wow. Scritty Palitti A newew way or I found a Scritty Palitti, these were communists Scritty Pidi was a Italian magazine. dedicated to communist, communist ideology Way to go there, Bill, playing comedy music. This is a And Bill, here's another one you probably don't know, a little trivia for you. Guess who covered this song Miles Davis How do y I like them apples gritty polit. I was say I found a different a new way or a different way. I found a Thereere we go. A better way, Okay, right. Len to listen to Miles Davis do this. I love them It's not very complex Ecellent, excellent, excellent. By the way, next time you got to find some Oh, remember that Monteego Bay, Wh did this Bobby, Bobby Bloom We should do this. ready for this? We should do a show on White singers who sounded authentically black Not foe soul There we go. This is a white Jamaican. Or what? listen to this Sounds like Richie Havens in a way. It's a white dude Um David Clayton Thomas, Bill Chaplin. U, Bill Medley peopleeople who had their own Not as they mimic Black soul voice, but sounded like it. And to me, this is there was no greater compliment. This is another one too And I don't care what anybody says. sometometimes I don't know if it's the timambre. I don't know. I don't know how you can hear sometimes. I remember during the OJ trial, Christopher Darden Somebody was said there was somebody was testifying. And Dardin was the prosecutor along with Marsha Clark. And somebody said, well, who said he said,, I don't know. I said, but I just heard his voice. It was a black guy. And Christopher R Dard said, Oh, can you tell If somebody's black by their voice, he said said Yeah, not always, but yeah. And he said, Really? And he said, Yeah, can't you? And now people this is where people pretend that we have no differences This is we pretend. here's the real test. I've always wanted to do this experiment and I don't know how to do it I don't know if there's alyithysmograph or some kind of a way of testing it. but You go to a new doctor, I don't know how you would do this, but just work with me. You go to a new doctor. You don't know who the doctor is Maybe it's a suite. Maybe it's a bunch of like at a hospital, you don't know who you get. The door opens up. The first doctor is doctor, let's say Mark as wellby. You know, Robert Young The second one looks like Ben Carson. Okay. Third Asian They say Chinese. Young, old. Imagine that young black, old black, young white, young black. woman womoman bllack, woman Asian. What would your reaction be in terms of before you even ask anything, your initial reaction in terms of and however it measures in initial trust or satisfaction, if that makes any sense, based upon completely stereotypical cultural biases. I love that stuff. Tell me the truth, even if the truth's uncomfortable. Hour number three coming up on another side of midnight with Lionel It's another sideide of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk stududio here's Lionel. He rebody Lionel with you. O number's eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. This is another sideide of midnight You know one of the greatest inventions in my lifetime First of all was The idea of It was Pandora at one time, but Spotify and I just love my I've found so much great music where you're able it's able to anticipate kind of what you're looking for. It it's the greatest, it's the greatest thing in the world And I program my own radio, my own music, my own I don't need, you know a person telling me about it, though you can, if you want. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen. It' The only bad part about it is that we're not we're not enjoying You know, speakers and High fidelity and Woofers and tweeters, 'cause it's all headphones. Anyway But thank God for that. It's just, my God, it's open my world And then YouTube came along And I remember one time asking on radio, one of my topics was, is there something keeping in view of this topic? Is there something about The guitar, electric guitar, makeake it simple. and I'm a guitar player, but I'm more acoustic, bluegrassy. But anyway, But I said, is there something about The Guitar. That is male Why are the greatest? whyy are there no Great female. Shredders or guitar players or whatever it is. Okay, now is this is before YouTube. And we used to think and Bonnie Ray didn't count an Oriente with you know, but it just we didn't know about anything. Well, enter YouTube And we're hearing the greatest stuff anybody has ever heard and where women have really gone, I mean not just good in comparison to men, but I mean better is base, electric base. I can't believe what I'm saying I'm seeing Japanese funk bands that I would have never known about. And had I just listened to regular radio or regular TV where for whatever reason female guitar players never you know made it So then I ask the question, why aren't there more female talk radio hosts? Why This is what we used to say in the old days, you know, terrestrial radio and even before satellite radio. Do they even have satellite satellite? I know there's serious, but it doesn't even count. anyway. anyway, this matter. So we used to think that. I say, wow, the reason is because of such and such Well, now because of YouTube, There are more great females than you can imagine. And I'm telling you right now, the most powerful woman on any kind of platform right now is Candice Owens period and a discussion. I don't care whether you like her or not. She's explosive. a black woman and nobody even thinks about her gender or her race. It doesn't even matter. Okay, so we're seeing that So we're so what I'm saying is we're seeing that a lot of these A lot of these stereotypes It just have being blown apart And me give another one. I used to do stand up comedy every weekend, for years And that that's a very it's a weird, it's a weird group of people. But anyway, beside the point. So one day we were talking I was talking to a club owner. and it was at the time when Rosie and I think Ellen were both Either coming out or somethingomething. Yeah, they were coming out of the to and This club owner said, you know, everybody knows they're gay. It's But maybe somebody, for example, in the Midwest, doesn't know So we were talking about this. I said, why do you think that is? He says, Well, and this was his theory, and I do not necessarily abide by this. But he said, you know Most women in standup are gay. againain, I'm not That's absurd. But his theory was, well the reason why is because stand upp is very aggressive. It's very male, very in your face. Here I am. listen to me Well Thanksks to YouTube and the Great equalizer, that's not true You are I mean scores of Top comics who are women, who are not gay It's just this was the great equalizer You know, I live in an area where're kind of on the west side and there's, you know, power station and there's all these what used to be these great recording studios. It's not recording studios anymore becausecause now you've got recording studios at home And there was a time in the old days when if you wanted to go on a radio station, you had to position a radio station in one town. There were just a handful of them and you were sending a tape and if they didn't hire you, you didn't go anywhere. Now, the great equalizer, you've got people who are just blowing the world apart blowing the world apart. and they're from their bedroom. So what I'm saying is when you open up your eyes and you get a better sample You realize by virtue of this is that every stereotype you thought doesn't make any sense. Do't make it makes no sense whatsoever And the more you learn about other people, the smarter it makes you. Absolutely. eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two, two. Let's go to Frankie in Queens. You're on another side of midnight with Lionel Hey, good morning, Mrter Fancy Wd user. I love you, man. How Before I get to my subject, are you gonna be like going back to the cutting room at anyt time soon I one never knows her, but yes, certainly. All right, because I look forward to seeing you in person again. I saw you years ago. Listen, I just want to remind everybody that tom today is actually U S flag Day. I encourage everybody to try to display an American flag on our home What does one what does one do on flag day Well, some of us have parade I participated in a parade And Today, I will be with the Knights of Columbus out in Oceanside and they have this big patriotic flag. They function you know, what Food, drink and so on and so forth. No, it's's verying it's a very interesting know, the study of flags, you know, their history is called vexalology, which is interesting. But flag dayay you know the history behind flag dayay? Flag Day is observed every year on june fourteenth And it commemorates the adoption of the first American flag by the Second Continental Congress on june fourteenth, seventeen seventy seven, and the resolution described a flag with thirteen alternating red and white stripes and thirteen white stars on a blue field representing A new constellation So flag Day became an official national observance when Woodrow Wilson proclaimed june the fourteenth as flag dayay in nineteen sixteen and Congress formally established National Flag Day in nineteen forty nine under Truman, and it is not a federal holiday, meaning most businesses are open. And there's also an interesting coincidence. june fourteenth is also the birthday of the United States Army founded in seventeen seventy five two years before the adoption of the flag. How about that And today is also our dear President's eightieth birthday. Gay, Mrter President God bless them. That's good. God, bless him. That's good. Thank you my good friend. Thank you. Please call me again. I appreciate it. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. eight hundred nine four eight hundred I'm so tired. eight four hundred eight nine two two two I I'm really tired. you know when you talk like this You've got a million things going on in your head. And I always like to tell somebody, you think this is easy? Sit down and do this Just try it. Just think about what you're saying. Most people don't ever have to articulate something other than you know, asking questions like, well, what do you think? What happened next? It's's very very taxing. It's very, very fun, donon't get me wrong, But after you're done, your brain is like It's like you're just takaking an exam. Jesse and New Rochelle, you're on another side of midnight with a linel. Hi, this is Jesse.. So I've been listening to you for a long time because I always wake up at three in the morning. And so I always respect your opinions, but I just want to know what your interpretation was about what Candace Owens and Tuck a C and say about Jewish people. I don't think they say anything about Jewish people. They have strong opinions about Israel But not about Jewish people They talk I think they talk about the roles of, you know, geopolitical and that sort of thing. But Jewish people, nothing But to Jewish people and not that I agree with everything that Israel always does forbid, but to Jewish people, certain slant on blaming Israel for everything is feels like it's against Jewish people Well, the problem is, if you want to read some of interesting things, if you look at what they say in Haretz This is in Israel. theseese are Jewish people. You would not believe how strong their opinions are sometimes about either Netanyahu or Israeli, not Jewish, Israeli position So I than you for I actually read that. and I read some of that and I agree with a lot of what they say, but But right, when we feel from Tucker Carlson Candace Oes is a little bit different than that Well, have they ever said anything about Jewish people that Judaism is wrong or Jewish people are wrong or versus the government of Israel But It depends on the slant from which you're approaching it. Well, it also depends on how you say. you're right about that. But if somebody were to say, by the way, I thank you for your call, the same thing is if you were to say, for example, that you don't believe let's say in Our position regarding Ukraine and the acceptance of Ukraine or the acceptance of a NATO version of Ukraine and that's more difficult to explain. It's almost the same ideology. American involvement or whatever it is. It depends upon your slant I will say this and you've got to be very, very careful. There are people who absolutely positively, one hundred percent are truly anti Semitic. They are against Jewish people. Judaism, absolutely. justust like there are racists, there are anti Catholics, without a doubt This is sometimes different. sometometimes the two are melded together. If somebody disagrees with a particular policy, many of them, by the way, who are themselves Jewish, you can't really call them anti Semitic. So it's a very careful it's a very careful it's a put it this way, very precarious position to be in. So you have to watch what you say But then again, know what you're talking about. Let's go to Rob and White Plaines Rob you on the other side of Midnight with the liono. Let me get Lion. listen talking about things Jewish. The Jiddish term for me out the term Hudspa, AQ T S AA, I don't know how I'm spell it, but Hudspa. I looked it up in the newew American Dictionary of synonyms. You know what the synonym for Hudspa was W your Wednesday on Saturday morning Thank you Thank you, Rob. Have a good day, sir. eight hundred, eight four eight nine two, two, two. I've heard of Hutpa C H U U Putpa not hubris It's a wonderful word. It's a wonderful That's very interesting. I'm going to do a little bit of delving. In fact, let me see this just for a second because I normally like to to to look at the derivation Hutzpah This is youish word mean Audacity, nerve gall or shameless boldness It can also be used positive for Sat Hutzpah to start a company with no money, meaning or negative after causing a problem here at the Hutzpah. It's interesting. It's like the word aloha. It either means hello or goodbye, depending upon the particular context of what you are using. eight hundred eight four hundred eight nine two two two, eight hundred eight four hundred eight nine two two two This is Lionel with you on another sideide of midnight. It's another sideide of midnight with Lionel Any man can be a father, but it takes someone special to be a dad. This Father's Day, Red Apple audio networks celebrate the man who has always been there with a card that says what words sometimes can't. So the question is, what does Father's Day mean to me? Well, an opportunity to say thank you to my dad The best dad, Ray Kelly. You may know him. He was great. When I was a baby, I'm told. When I was a kid, I know. and right up until today, my best friend. Walter Sterling, what does Father's Day mean to me? It means to me absolutely nothing different than Mother's Day because it looks the same On Mother's Day, I take care of the kids to give mom a break. And on Father's Day, mom says, Hey, you get to spend the whole day with the kids. Happy Father's Day, Walter Sterling. 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I number eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two two, eight hundred eight four eight nine two two, two I love the idea of traits and I love the idea of somebody saying there's this idea that some people might be good for something based upon either a trait inherent or culturally or I asked somebody one time M did ever see a Chinese homeless person in Newk I said, No, I said, whyy is that And they looked at said I don't know. I said, Well, think about it. Wh not Why is that true? One time I went to a thing La Libre at Madison Square G well, actually one of the little smaller theaters. but it was Mexican, you know, Mexican wrestling. And I was there with a friend of mine And I said, this may be crazy I said, but I don't see a bald headed Mexican here Is there anything Perhaps any type of trait or some type of genetic predisposition against baldness. And if you think about it, just look. I don't and I was with a friends I said, just look Isn't that interesting? Isn't that something? Isn't that Isn't that odd Isn't that unique? There are traits. Who was it George Carlland says, You never he says, you don't read too many Chinese guys named Rusty. Let's go to Seaan in Boston, Sean. You're on another side of midnight with the lionel Thank you, Lionelin. I think sometimes we stereotype, but I think in life, you're better off being lucky, just pure unadulterated luck. Now, what do you mean? Yeah, but I just like to say in twenty twenty during the virus A lot of Republicans were downplaying the COVID virus and everything. And then Trump comes down. And Trump had it pretty bad because he needed oxygen. And then three weeks ago, Trump goes to China and the guys who sent the virus over here who gave it to him He's toasting him the butchers of Beijing and the Chinese Cunists has sent to virus Soviia. I think that it look kind of weird. I think China looks at us like Saturdayight Live when it was in its day day and they laugh their heads off and everything talking about little green martians and This is that and blaming people for things You know, and it always seems to be something that becomes automatic H this is first of all, this is a very blanket Little green martians, what does that mean Well, this thing would be releasing of UFO files and aliens I mean, I know it's BS, it's total nonsense. It's just more spreading circuses. But when P why do you think s? Why do you think it's a way of distracting everybody. That's No why do you why Why is this not true Because it's not true because they don't have any aliens in air. I don't know it's studio open before. I know it's. Let me ask you this one but go ahead. How do you know this Because if we would known about it years ago if there was anything there is nothing there. And that's why they can't show us anything. Stop for a second stop for a second, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I want to take this. You have to continue this When you say they would have shown us this before, who are they We too our day The government, the government. There's nobody has ever seen a space alien. I like I said, I called it youty four an alien fifty one. No, no wait, wait wait you're talking too much. Let's finish your You're saying that nobody has ever seen an alien or an alien craft. Are you are you sure you say Did you really say that That's scrap correct. There's no space alien and you're no. No, no. That's what I said. So you're listening to what I'm saying and I appreciate it. This is very important. You're saying Nobody has ever seen this. Nobody, noobody has ever seen either an alien, an alien craft. anyybody's ever had contact with it. You said it's never happened. Is that what you're saying? It's never happened. Listen How do you know that? The National Wire used to be about a fifty thousand, stop stop. stop listen do me favor. Listen I'm sorry I'm not trying to be But focus on this. I keep asking you a question and you're not answering me, this' airort. How do you know this? Because no one's ever seen one. No one's ever taken a picture. Let me stop you again. Let me stop you again. stop Again, I'm not trying to be rude. You said no one has ever seen one. And I said, how do you know this? And you said, because no one's ever seen one It's this circular kind of logic. Yes, they have. And with all due respect, and I say this absolutely, positively with respect You have not done me finish let me finish my thought. You have not done any research on this. You don't know what you're talking about. I say with all due respect. You have no idea. You have an anecdotal idea. If you believe the government has a space alien in area fifty one, you are as gullible and as No stop for a second. Stop for a second. What is the basis between area fifty four and S four and Bob Lazar And Jesse Marcel And what Stanton Friedman has said Bve me when I say this and and I know you're a good person. You don't know what you're talking You just you're like drive by. You have this kind of this idea like, you know, that's Aalaaaka maybe. You've never investigated this, never researched. And I thank you for your call. I just this is the part and again Did you hear the logic? Some people do not want to believe it. Therefore, they will couge everything as they said, The government would have told us this. Do you believe the government has told us the truth about anything Anything. Why would the government tell us the truth about anything? Has the government told us the truth about JFK RFK nine eleven, COVID Epstein, you me to continue And when you say the government, who is the government Do you know how easy it is for a Woman put me rephrasees Why would you want your potential u enemies. to know that you are in possession of something that could absolutely set the world on its head Why would you want somebody to know? No they probably do. They know this. When you talk about the Ceda report, when you talk about Area fifty one, Roswell, the eyewitness testimony. Do you remember the stories about how they went to the when they found the debris. rememember what Philip Corsso said and others and all of the books, all the testimony, how they went and they threatened threatened members of the community that if they ever said anything If there was nothing there, what's the big deal? I mean, Edgar Mitchell There are people by the way who have seen anatomy craft that is just You know, that TikTok thing, but sit for the longest time And for somebody to get an idea J to just basically throw the whole thing away. Oh and by the way, there are a lot of people who really don't know what they're talking about and they kind of want there to be And he said, little green men. We haven't used that phrase in Oh, they're very real. Absolutely. Now Not everybody who makes the claim is correct But there have been people not only that, there have been abductions, Betty and Barney Hill Absolutely, positively, look at the story behind it about Betty and Barney Hill, about what John Mack and others have done. This is the Harvard psychiatrist who put a lot of people under hypnosis. See, when somebody comes along and they don't know anything They really know nothing about it. It's like, for example. Whenever I've always talked about I talked about the claims of nine eleven People don't know anything about them I mean, I'm serious. and they look at me and they say, really? I say, yeah. You know this' right? No. And then they say, but I would have known this. and I said, do you think that anybody on a cable news show? is going to dare even get near this, they lie to you about COVID. Remember this? They're lying to you about geoengineering. They can't tell you. they are in fear of losing the last bastion, the last neck door. It's going by by. And instead of being more aggressive and saying, listen, we're going to be overtaken by digital platforms who speak far more boldly than this, we have to come out and say something. They don't do it They don't do it. They were the ones when Bezo sent that little toy rocket ship up with the phony doors. They didn't even question that It's just it just blows my mind. And by the way, Spielberg, I can't really figure him out. I think Spielberg knows more than people realize. And by the way, the Vatican, if it means anything to you, and there are a lot of good Catholics out there has said repeatedly that not only is it consistent with Catholic theology, there' being people from other people or entities from other planets, other systems, but that most probably they probably they view it as almost the status of angels And the question also was, do they have original sin? Anyway, I don't want to get too too deep into that right now. But like this last caller, listen to what he said, It didn't happen because it didn't happen And what proof do you have? Because we would have known it,. Joel, in California, you're on another sedimentight with Lino Hey, goodood morning, Mrter Lionel. I have Good day, sir. I have two quick stories. secondecond story has a subpart, but trust me, they're going to be short read Back in the early nineties, I had the pleasure of being stationed in the Republic of the Philippines for about six months while I was serving in the military And I totally fell in love with the island. The people were amazing sweet, hospitable, they will figur figuratively give you their shirts off their back. In the beginning, I was a little bit hesitant. I said, eh I think they just want money, blah, blah, blah. However, the longer I stay there, I realize that They were actually genuine caring and loving citizens. Now let me fast forward to last year, July, I was hospitalized for two weeks. And u onene thing I did notice and it's true that ninety seven percent of my nurses were Filipinos, which brings me to my point, which is I believe certain people are genetically predisposed to certain fields Like all the nurses that took care of me, I was there for two weeks. All the nurses that took care of me. Like I said, ninety seven percent of them were ino females and it took real great care of me U Then I had a Filipino male nurse. that's ninety eight percent. Then I had a nurse from Trinidad ninety nine percent and then I had a Cucasian nurse that's one hundred percent. But For the whole two weeks I was there, they took real great care of me. and I mean, they showed gentleness, kindness. I mean, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you question. Yes, sir, What is a difference between? what if somebody said that didn't speak to Filipinos that spoke about good nursing who happened to be Filipino? that is also true, sir. Yeah, you make a valid point. That is also true Yes that is also true. but But that was just my opinion.fs is your opinion? No no,ree. But there's also it's listen, there's I feel like there's this right now There is a There was a genius that I'm seeing, and this is from afar, I don't live there, but from what I've seen is studing what I've heard about In the Japanese culture, a gentility and a respect and a kind of a courtesy that we so desperately need in our country. I mean absolutely, to the point where and they are they have rules about not not speaking loudly on a subway Eating in public very, very just very, very quiet. Now. Interestingly enough, During I was watching during In fact, I was ensconced in this Ken Burns documentary on World War two. People who were in the Pacific Theater said that during the Batan deeath March The Japanese soldiers showed a brutality They have never they couldn't even imagine. Isn't that weird? Here I am thking maybe, but and again, I'm not trying to extrapolate anything from from all that. But if but if also you can tell a couple of things here. Number one The length of the culture, how old the culture is Number two We have a heterogeneity in our culture. There is no such thing you know white people, whatever may be the the norm or the majority. But if you look around, my God are there variations of it left and right In Japan They look alike, they act alike, they enjoy kind of a solidarity. They have a different attitude towards people who might not be a part of anything because there's so much diversity. Think about that. We may have so much heterogeneity that people don't feel a part of anything I don't know. I'm just always trying to think about that. That's all. No. And you make a valid point, sir, because like I said, I hate to bring up my military service again. However, when I was in boot camp, all they preached to us was, oh, the Japanese were bastards, blah, blah, that WW two Andind you, of course, it is history, you know, our Baton, death March, all that other stuff However, once again, I had the pleasure of being stationed in Okinawa three times six month tours. I did three six months tours in Okinawa and every citizen I met in Okinawa was nothing but the most decent people I ever met, the most humblest people I ever met. I will go What was the year of this?? What year was I went My first tour was in ' eighty six, secondcond tour was in eighty seven. thirird tour was in eighty nine Okay, so this wasn't this wasn't during Vietnam orkay o. No, no no, no, sir, no, sir. Yeah. But like I said, they were just the most kindest and the most humblest people. And like you said, you're going to a Japanese restaurant Although Okinawans consider themselves different from Japanese, but Right But and I. You know, but a couple of things which is very important also, there are people who, you know, during during war You find people who are fighting for their life, like for example, Vietnam. They did not see us at all as Wonderful liberators. we were the enemy And they were a most formidable opponent. and they were protecting their countryland, whether you like it or not. They were a different kettle of fish. Once that was removed, now today, Vietnam, think about this. this is The tourism is just incredible. There people go, this is a communist country theoretically. This was our enemy, no problem. And we get along with them, no problem. Welcome. And yet not too long ago We wanted to kill each other. Look at Northern Ireland. They are people who are virtually, I mean identical with the exception of Catholics and you know Protestants, but they're right there. and even they can show incredible inhospitability towards each other, depending upon the situation. I thank you very much, sir for your call. I truly do. You know, I asked a friend, I'm not going to tell you, but he's an old high school buddy and he does a travel business I said, tellell me the great places to go. He says, but tell me the countries you don't want to go to ever again. I don't want to give you the list. but it was very interesting. I don't think there'd be places you'd want to go. And there might very well be people who have ways of looking at life and dispositions that we may not necessarily agree with. A code, Mr. Lee, a code, sir. But for example, we do things that are different. Somebody told me that the French always notoriously rude. You always heard about how rude the French are. And other people are saying, No, we look rather rude to them. Give an example. One of the things which they said the French hate about Americans is when you walk into their shop, it's like walking into their home and you don't say Bourjour hello, nothing. That is drives them nuts abbsolutely drives them crazy. The Italians sometimes or Romans will talk about how tourists dress We dress like slobs. drust We don't have a European flare. And it's interesting, just different ways of looking at things. This is one of my favorite stories. There was a fellow there was a YouTube channel of a guy who was an expat and he fell in love with a Japanese girl And the premise was he was going to he really loved her family and just loved them. It was so terrific. And they thought, I found a home and these would be great in laws and it would be wonderful And he thought terrific, so I don't know how the subject came up whether he formally asked the family or the father for her hand or who knows? But the father basically said to him, Oh no, you don't He said, what? He said, Oh, no, no, no You're not gonna marry my daughter. No way. Wh he says, Well, you're not Japanese And he meant it respectfully. He didn't say anything rudely. He said, Oh, no, no, no, no, this is our culture. and you're not going to come and now granted, I'm not suggesting that this is the way everybody feels, but he made it very, very clear. And he said, you know, come to think of it It wasn't that it wasn't rude, It wasn't discourteous, It wasn't anything like that. But he said, you know, they make a lot of sense. They make a lot of sense. And what's also very interesting is that believe it or not, sometimes there are people who say, this is our culture and we don't want you Mucking it up. And do you have a problem with that? I don't I don't, not at all. Not in the least. Nothing. I see absolutely Nothing We might need a new one there, mister Eie. This seems to be invalid. Sorry, Edy. I don't mean to be That's exactly the same one from last time sir. The thing which is interesting about trits and this is what I love, if you had to ask somebody, if you had to tell somebody, this is what America is about. this is what we believe. And if you had to really explain things to them And they said to you, Please tell me the truth First of all How would you say Are Americans nice people Answer that question, are we The question you should follow with that where Which Americans? Where People think like America is a place like America, Georgia. I's like, No, where? Do you w to compare somebody with Seattle to Brooklyn or New Orleans or Plano, Texas That's my favorite to say, What do you mean America? Which America? Who? What are you talking about Then you're going to ask the question, Wh runs our country Do you think President Trump runs the show here? I'm being serious. I mean, he's got a tremendous say, no doubt, I again happappy birthday, mis. President. But do you think the presidents of the United States run the show You gotta be kidding me Hell no Absolutely not There are so many other countervailing powers Then you gonna ask yourself, well, What do Americans think? And I would say, we're very good people, but we're just two hundred and fifty years old. We're good people, but we think we know everything. And we think we say we're exceptional. And American exceptionalism is great and I like that. But that can get you, talk about Hutzpah and hubris. that can get you into problems. We're very, very good, but we do some things that are First, we don't know about geography. Next, we don't really travel We are a country with One of the lowest, lowest numbers of passports. We don't view international travel like others do. Now if you're in Europe, hell you can drive two hours in're another country with another language and another culture We're just a good people, but we're brand new. And somebody was talking about Russia. Russia was formed theoretically in eight hundred So whatever it is. Conera or AD as you would call it E hundred They think about this And Iran, Oh my God, this is thousands of years. These are Persian. They have a perspective nobody's ever seen before. And yet We don't really understand how this thing works. It's not because we're bad people. Look, I love my country. I think most of us do. America, to me is almost like having like not a child, but a relative you love, but is a little quirky. It's a little strange. You know what I mean? In a unique way. We're very interesting What are our traits? Oh, depends where the traits are. Why't you love to take somebody from another country and say, here, let me show you something. Let me drive it around. You see what that is right there? That's an American flag, yeah. That's a Republican Democrats don't ever show their flag Really, absolutely Is that right? Absolutely. Do they hate this country? No. they're just a different breed And then if you went and you went to different parts. See, the best part about our country, I think, is the heterogeneity. The very fact that we live in a time in a place where everything is so monumentally different. It's different I don't think there's any comparison And while I love our country What we know about things is enough to make your ha. This is my problem. A lot of times I'm thinking, does anybody really know what's going on here? Does anybody truly understand? I heard somebody talking about communism And socialism, and I swear to God, I don't think this person know the hell they were talking about I really don't even think, In fact, if you tri this in some European countries, they look at you and say, what are you talking about It's weird. It's a very strange thing. Again, I love my country. The government, you can have it. No, not interested. You can have it. I don't know if I'm becoming an anarchist or I have no idea what done, but I cannot believe it's the government that always messes things up But us and our people, and let me leave you with one thing very, very quickly. The thing that I amm the most proud of What My country gave the world is our music And that is something that you cannot possibly, possibly, ever underestimate. We gave you the greatest music ever And you can never take that away from us. Everything else It's our music eight hundred, eight four eight, nine, two, two two. This is Lionel with you on another sideide of midnight. All night long, this is another sideide of Midnight with Lionel This is another sideide of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk stududios, here's Lionel Ah, Mono D Bango Line up with you another side of midnight You know, my friends, I just want to again, clarify something, which I think is very, very important. becausecause Definitions are critical. There is a profound, huge difference between recognizing traits and resorting to stereotypes. Though, today in our culture, I think they confuse the two Traits are defined as tendencies or patterns or characteristics that may that may appear more frequently in certain populations or demographics or cultures or groups or whatever it is. But stereotypes are rigid. They're like hardwired. There's no variations. They're rigid assumptions on individuals regardless of who they are And they're usually wrong. But human beings, what we do is we're always looking for natural patterns, natural traits is what we do. We look for patterns and trends and frequencies. And we notice that, for example, professional basketball players are unusually tall. We observe that elite marathon running is dominated by athletes from certain East African populations. This is a fact We know that some groups have higher incidence of a genetic disease or greater lactose tolerance or different cultural traditions And when you can recognize these facts as not being prejudicice, it's merely an observation That's one of the things. You know, people who are great impersonators are people who really listen And they pick up trends and they pick up tendencies and they pick up things that you do that most people might lose. Let's go back to Andrew on phone,ather, Andrew in New Jersey, Andrew, you're on another side of midnight with Lyionel No I don't. sir A am I with you? Okay, with me. You went over so many topics before I was all around opinions on all of them. and I broke my phone and I couldn't call last week. and you were saying these things. Isn't not like I disagreed? I had such a totally different outlook, but American likeike why? What American wear? You sayam, I lived in California for ten years in San Francisco, right? And I noticed to really everybody here on the East Coast, they're so fake they're so fake Californians. I don't find this what it is at all. I feel it's like they have a very different ironically pacific nature And they wasening the T show and it was people a lot more eager to like to wait for the bus you know, like, hey how about that. I mean,, you know, if I went there in two thousand five, cell phones wiped that out hard, but still Pe more comfortable And we'll talk about crazy things, I have a lot of wild ideas. And this attitude is like Well you know, I don't know, mayaybe he's right maybe's wrong. Who am I to tell him that? The problem is they had the same attitude with like their friend at work. We all been hanging out every night for six months. We're going, you know, I know this, you know, Jim, you've been drinking a lot. He getting this soy I don't I really just stop calling them Let' just kind of cut them out because it's like, it's not their place to tell them what to do and We perceive that as fake friends, you know, people just today. It's a different way. justs like how the Japanese don't do confrontation you know, is a very rude thing and they're not going to tell you. I don't like They're going to have someone, you know you're comfortable with tell you because they find that disrespectful. And yeah, people are all different. I'll say this one last part. some'm going and thank you for let me going. Whatever people Whver they are, I find there's this ratio roughly. And of course you know some stereotypes and culture var at a bit, but one to two out of ten Awesome Great people minagecent P can't stand it. everyverybody else is somewhere in the middle there and you know, is just that's people Yeah, but tell me give me a heart that's that's wonderful But that's just so general as say I could have said that myself. That doesn't say anything. Give me a hard and fast observation Give me an observation that somebody's going to listen to and they're going to get upset with Be bold Make an observation that people are' going to lie Tell me. Oh okay, well, you know what, onene thing he talks about before. What people see and what people believe and how things work and how they sew fast and hard have strong opinions out of complete ignorance You know, a lot of the time that's just a basis of a necessity for their outlook. Like, you know what this whole disclosure thing do my whole life mean,'s probably alen statistically I thought like I don't care what it's not relevant to me But the things that have happened That's one of the most honest things you could possibly say Is you really just say, you know what? I don't care enough to even think about And that's the most honest thing. I thank you for that. I'm sorry I must We must must run. I thank you for that probablyrobably one of the most honest things you can possibly say What I find is that people who have never studied something, they have no idea what they're talking about. It's a Dun in Kruger business. and they just speak Nonsense, Gibberish in any event