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I also think that when you dare sometimes to Tilled people That what they believe to be the case is not exactly so. Well, some people get upset. To make a long story short yesterday, my wife and I saw Dclosure Day And I can't believe we saw two movies. I have not been to a just didn't go to movies. There' some there's some great ones coming up. One about, by the way the Zuckerberg case where he was being trained in how to testify, that looks exceedingly good At least from the trailer. You can also tell sometimes when trailers when the movies are just crummy. Anyway, disclosure, no spoiler alerts, no, anything. I think is just garbage You can see it if you want. you may love it You it like Spielberg, what happened to you Who wrote this What is the point of this? What were you trying to say? And I was watching listening to a lot of his his various interviews he does and he doesn't know either. He does he frankly doesn't know well about humanity And I love the story Because before you begin, you have to remember something, pick this subject very carefully. Most people that you won't meet do not understand. How to handle it Let me tell you why. First, whatever this subject is Vietnam, the Vatican God history. Don't forget what it said about Tolstoy. History would be a wonderful thing if only it were true People will come with their own sense of what they believe the truth is. It's not Dunning Kruger. it's different Next is the word believe. Do you believe that we're alone? Do you believe that there are extraterrestrials? Do you believe that there are UAPs? And I hate the way they change them. UAP, I'm sorry. I just I never gotten into UAPs Excuse me. And one of the things which is the most important out of everything is this idea of we don't enjoy the notion of wonder We don't enjoy any time saying, wow Think about this. Recently, there was a baby that was born. And they said, Isn't it great? I said, No Do you understand how Mind boggling this is for this child To come from from what? fromrom what to viscous Organic? posits that if I If I put it on your sleeve, you would immediately try to wash it off. you say, what is this? And from this from these two seemingly Organic, whatever you you couldn't call it. you get a human Nobody cares anything about But when we die, o, we go so deep. Where do we go? What happens next? Do you meet God? Is there a heaven I said, wait minute, let's talk about this beforehand. First of all, where was this child before And they say, well what do you mean? Well, where did the child come for Did the child come from nothing And the answer they might say is yes. from nothing. The child came fromom nothing There was nothing. There was no child. There was not never existed We were there, Yes, yes, yes So when people always say don't Alaska. What do you mean we came from nothing? The Big Bang. what happened before the Big Bang? They asked Stephen Hawking What happened before the Big Bang? He says, What' south of the South Pole You see where I'm getting at We don't wonder enough when I was in school donon't know what year, what grade? I don't remember, but I remember. the event It was a cube, a black cube And in this cube, somebody threw something in Paper clip, a marble, a rock, I don't know And We just had to figure out what was it And we waited. And we couldn't open it up and we moved in and we shook it and we tried to take other samples of the cubes We turned it from side to side. I said there's something spherical in here. There's something Not circular spherical free dimension. Something is sliding, something is rolling. there's something And we were trying to figure out what it was. and it was this There was this thing where we tried to figure out to wonder Critical thinking To wonder, what does this mean to wonder, to look up? to sit back. in the grass, maybe at a concert and look up and see stars if there's no light pollution. just Wonder don't answer the questions There's no interest in answering the questions. What do you want to answer questions for? As ion So The movie And this is this is my thing and this has been a subject of mine, a pet pee for the longest time I Always ask the question when somebody asks, do you believe You always have to say, well, I've never seen one. I'm not sure if I've seen one. I don't know. but I've never seen an electron before, but I take their word for it, blah, blah blah But I believe that people have seen so far. I believe that there are many, many people who saw something. I believe that there are people who saw something that indeed were from another planet or Dllar system I think some people are a little crazy someome people have you ever met somebody who was And astronomer are crazy Everything is wow, you know, it's mercury rising. they really don't know that much about it, but they love They love acting like they do believe. They really do. They love ly believe Bielberg Again, no spoiler alerts here. has this idea of making The extraterrestrials too mysterious And here is the question If you met something that was indeed from another system Would they be Really that Mysterious It's funny how would say, well, look They certainly look humumanesque. or humanoid as do we There's that bilateralism, two arms, two legs ahead. We all have the same chemicals. We are starred us, we are golden. I think Jonni Mitchell said it best We're from the same we have eyes, we probably have some type of We have a different sensory apparatus Some of these things, I like when they say, it's always the one version of extratererrestrial. Big eyes, om and head, you know on that kindind of the ET look It's the only one we know. yet people who have spoken about it s there are I don't want to say hundreds, but various versions, some looking Nordic, some looking whatever. Maybe some are shapeshifting. I't know but it's funny Even even when we talk about this, we have a certain a dynamic. We have a certain What's the word? We have a certain predisposition to believing They look in a particular way or that they're magical Or they can And again, I don't want to ruin this, but all of a sudden say, hey, I'm speaking Russian I don't know why I thought one of the most interesting stories was that Normally with advancement comes improvement upon systems. There has to be sensory, there has to be something and It was also not to interrupt this But it makes sense to me that a lot of what we see are not necessarily The actual and we'll use the word critter themselves, but maybe a robot, an orb, some type of a drone, some, you know, something that is sent out collect information or what have you Many of these weird flying U orbs or Craft could very well not contain anything that we would call and extraterrestrial might be just likeike a drone like a drone is to us I used to speak with Stanton Friedman, he was the probably the most lucid of them all. I loved him. He was the granddaddy of of modern ephology, he was very careful. He didn't just imagine things There's this fellow Stehen Greer, Stephen Greer He his mind, he I think he's a bit of a fabulist. He imagines that they're good And they come to warn us, Don't destroy yourself They came after World War two. What does that mean? Well, obviously they came after after We detonated bombs and they were warning us, Really, how do you know that? I don't know It's like a Rorschach test Why do you think they're going to be so benevolent? Why do you think? They would look at you as being anything other than an ant or a cattle, or maybe I don't know It tells me more about you. But what I always find interesting is that You would not believe the ordinariness of it And I do not believe necessary that They would find us I was Sack. Fascinating Is there any animal In fact, you know what we do with animals or any kind of species? We will corral, put it in a zoo. you know, under under a, you know, a microscope We don't ever Ebrace the parameium we control it But do you think they wouldn't necessarily want to with us Maybe, maybe not. And here's the best part And this is what I think the this is where the're screen wrriting again, no spoiler alert. is the most vague How do extxtraterrestrials comport And Steven Spielberg, I've always believed was a deep statater from way back. A guy who was a part of the elite, a guy who was a part of Remember Hollywood Zappa said that Hollywood basically is the entertainment arm of like the Pentagon. It's the It's the propaganda all the way back to Frank Kapperan, the CIA years ago with art and that sort of thing Again, I don't w want to make it too complicated, but Spielberg always say, what are you up to Spielberg has a's a lot of stuff he's kind of protected And the really the thing I ask about St Spielberg is a couple of things. What is your point? What is your message And I think He is probably not somebody that People find to be devout I would agree. I don't think that religion plays a big Part of him, I don't believe so I think sometimes people pay lip service to what they believe God is. That's kind of my take in this they sort of think that' Be honest with you, which is different. It's another side of midnight with Lionel Summer smells like citrus in the sun. Turn your home into a daily getaway with Pura's new summer collection. Find your flow and fragrance and explore the scents at pura. com. Host unforgettable backackyard barbecues with savings from Whole Foods Market. Get the good times going with made in house chicken or pork sausages and ready to cook kebabs for hassle free flavor. Grab tasty flatbreads and their new balsamic chicken salad in the prepared foods department Keep things fresh with organic red cherries, strawberries and peaches at their peak. And stock up on bug sprays and suncare must haves. 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It's just like when I talk to people who say, there is no God, there is no this, there is no this, or there or people who say, well, of course there's extraterrestrials. Why? Well, there just has to be I don't even know what that means either. I don't know who's worse. Somebody who guarantees the existence of something because they can't imagine they're not being it, or somebody who says they don't exist because well, they just don't. We also have these people who are skeptics. They love to debunk anybody who has any questions I can tell you that virtually everything you hear on what you would consider to be sock puppet, proxy statist institutional news is not the truth. It might be Parts of it are true, but it is only there to give you a perspective that some people want you to have. I'm not going to go into detail because people would be most offended and frankly, I avoid it. This is not the time nor the place But I have no problem with that So our number is eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two two, let's go to the phones. I'd love to hear from you. Come on aboard. let's chat, shall we? Because believe it or not, it's not the subject matter necessarily at this time of the day. It's you. Let's go to Bobby on the upper East side. You're on another side of Midnight with Lionel Hello Hello, Bobby. Why Nice U Upper west side. So West side, south side, it doesn't matter. Yeah So my two kids are in their early thirties. and when I became the bedtime story guy we would play board games first and then we would hop into bed and read whatever book they wanted to read. And then my wife would pop her head into the and you're still awake. turnurn the lighthouse. stop So you turn the lights out. and then I would say to whoever, my son or my daughter I would say, do you want to hear a true story? And even the darkness, you could almost see their eyes become like, o yeah, dad. because I was I had been a working musician and I had been a contractor and I had been on sailboats, delivering sailboats from New York to Florida and from Florida to New York And so I had seen all kinds of really cool could and I could tell them true stories. For example Well flying fish. I would know there really are flying fish and I would tell them why. And I would tell them why they were flying fish. Why were there flying fish because they were trying to get out of out of the fish that were trying to eat them. And the waves the waves were big enough where they could like scoooot up into the top of of the crest of a wave. and they would And they would land into the cockpit of our sailboat. Let me ask you something. Did you ever see anything in the sky that you found particularly alarming Well, on one of the upward from Florida to New York, we were we sailed through military maneuvers, and the captain of the boat didn't really know that what it was. And so we he got on the He got on the loveve the whatever the and radio And he said, ye, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, it was the radio direction findinder. And he checked around the different frequencies and it was like U They were having board games Okay, but did you ever see anything that cannot be attributed to anything man madeade Yes, Yes. Did Let's cut to the chase, Bobby, I love you. Did you ever see a flying saucer? Did you ever see strange people, aliens? let's make it real clear. Did you ever see anything where you said, Hey, that's not a plane. That's something from someplace else Yes. Okay, tell me about it. Let's We're making headway now. What did you see I saw something at my parents place in New Hampshire where there was like nobody around. What did you see? Tell me what you saw It was it was like a drive in it was bigger than a drive in movie Green Okay, and what did it do I Well, that's when my mind is like now blank in it was win. You're in New Hampshire and you see the size of a drive in screen. Was the screen in the sky? Was it on the ground? Was it moving? What did it look like? It It was like maybe a quarter mile, half a mile away and it was very bright And I was standing up Was it moving Was it in the sky? Was it What was it doing? What was it doing It was just there. in the sky on the ground Tell me where it was just there Well, if you are in a field and There's something about a quarter a mile away. It would It would have been like maybe four hundred five hundred feet above the land. And it was and it was very bright. And I was standing And The house Was it rectangular? Was it spherical? Was it No, no, no, it was just very bright. But then the other one, the other one when I was up the wait wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. You've got to help me with this. Maybe it's maybe I'm Maybe it's the trial lawyer. The jury wants to know What did it look like? You said, it was bright. What was bright? Was it a square? W did it move? Did it hover? Did it blink? Did it flash? What color was the light What was it Did it scare you You know those kind of condition. Bobby, listen, I thank you so much. Have a great, great day. You know, something it's not Bobby's fault Let me see if I can explain this to you When you see something, And you're trying to convey the idea to somebody We wanted to know why did you think this was something from elsewhere Sometimes we can see something like, o, that's interesting. That' it's an anomaly. People always attribute it to Venus Swamp gas, I still don't even know where the swamp is and why it has gas A weather balloon. Remember during the time which would never talk about the drones, the drones at night. We just forgot about that. There are people who've seen things. Now, I don't know if I could ever say I've seen. But what I'm asking you is and what obviously what we're talking about in view of the subject matter disclosure is did you see anything? Let's really make it easy. Were you abducted? Did you see them? Did they land? Did they there's something Ver few people can say that. Some people saw a light, some people may have seen this, some people may have seen especially pilots more than anybody are sworn to secrecy. Don't say anything. That's what I wantant to know Pamela in New Jersey, Pamela, you're on another side of midnight with Lionel Good morning. My parents morning were part of the witnesses of a very famous sighting, which you probably know about. It's not talked about a lot because people aren't interested in east Coast UFOs. They seem to only be interested in the southwest But it's called the Wonaue Reservoir sighting. And it encompasses like three or four towns, Wonakeue, Pumpin Lakes, Riverdale. They were on their way home, and we lived up there at the time and along with everybody else along the river road post lane, if you're familiar with the place Everybody stopped, got out of their car and saw an oval shaped pulsating white and blue object hovering over the river And then there was another sighting by the dam. There's a dam in the wooded area. They were not part of that sighting. But it was also seen hovering over the reservoir. They were not part of that sighting. They were part of more of the Riverdale side where they saw this pulsating object going over the river. Now as time has gone on, I have thought about this and this is my theory Picatinney Research Military Center is up there not too far. And they have a research center. and I think this was the predecessor to the drone. and they were just experimenting with it that night. Now the mayor is witnesses to it The mayor's son, I believe, police officers chased it along the pumped mountains They some say that it landed on the dam in a wooded area up there and and there was a beam of light. Now that could have been lasers. they were experimenting with something. So I think there's a perfectly logical explanation to this because Governmental experiments always precede us by fifty to sixty years And I I find got an even easier I've got B the way, I've got an even easier one for you Code, Mr. Lee. And that would be it was an extraterrestrial craft From another planet, another system, another was it was a UAP It was exactly people would hope it would be And what you've done is you've given a completely plausible alternative theory that calls into account more, you know familiar things, military investigation, lasers, precursors, you know, that sort of thing too. And that's good. Isn't it funny that people always want to say, well, the reason for that is well is obviously it's And I'm not in any way, mock you, I love the way you think. But an equally rational way of thinking would be no, it was something supernatural It was not an investigation. It was not some precursor or something that got out. Now I will tell you that one time years ago being in Florida, as I called it, in Tampa near McDill Air Force Base, which is now Central Canda There was the first time we ever saw what appeared to be right before it was released, one of these stealth bombers. If you've never seen this before and you are not made aware of it, it's shocking If you've never seen this before, you think, oh my God, that's a flying saucer. That's a wing. So anyway, what did your parents think? What did others think Well, my father was a very good mechanic, very logical, but he definitely he was believable. Unfortunately, somebody wanted to interview them, but they have passed on as a firsthand witness to that. If you look up weird New Jersey, but my parents believed it was something And probably maybe in terms of what I was saying. But they never really, you know, it's funny, we never really talked about it that much. It was just like, oh yeah, we were part of that. And it was a big deal. It was a very big deal. And later on, my husband delivered up there in a truck and he spoke to one of the guards that was still alive and he was describing that night and men in black came and which kind of is a dead giveaway. And police officers talked about it. all officials. I mean, they were very open about it And I was, you know, unfortunately that night, I was not with them. They were on a date night. and I was a little little girl. And I'm so mad that I didn't get to see this. but it was show stopping. It was absolutely showstopping And let me ask you. What believeth you? What is your take on this Well, I think with the advent of all that shenanigans with the hurricanes down the southeast coast and then the drones at the same time during election time I'm kind of really like being more logical. I mean, I'm open to anything. I'm open to spiritual things and to you know ghostly matters or whatever. But I really think there's a logical reasoning to this. And one day a stealth bomber did Fly over. Centralew Jery, and you're right, it was a showstopper and anybody, you know, of course, we knew at that point what they they were point My neighbor was like lookook at that. It was a big black triangle. and I tell you, if you first see that you're going to wonder. And I do agree with you about Spielberg. interesting how Spieldberg's timing is right. He's like Roddenberry with Star Trek. He's got the I think he right. But he's used as a by the way, so was Capras, so was you realized that the CIA was responsible. Remember when MOMA, the Museum of Mern Art and Art, a lot of this was funded by CIA initially as an antidote to this uncultured this this this, you know, the Russians who didn't appreciate, you know, they always had their bulls show. they always pushed out the show culture, they were Disney, Fantasia all of that government sponsored, always, always. But let me go back to this one thing. You say that there has to be a reason for this. There has to be an explanation, and that that's somehow more logical I'll give an example, an analogy. You and I are physicians. We see a patient and there's been a spontaneous either remission or cure of cancer. And we look at each other and we say, now how in the hell did that happen You say, well, it could have been a couple of things. Number one, we might have misdiagnosed it. it might not have been stage four, it might have been something else. there might have been some other factor to it. And then I say, or it could be a miracle. Now, I, for some reason, as a physician, am laughed at, you basically told me nothing in your hypothesis. It just sounds more secular. It sounds like, you told me nothing. You just created a fantasy, hypothetically of how, well, the reason for this And it's considered more scientific than mine. What I'm telling you is that your parents could have said, we have been visited by angels. And by the, believe it or not, the Vatican astronomer always considers these to be almost angel like, angelic. They have spoken as to this Is it funny how logic dissuades us from appreciating the fact that this could be exactly. To me, there is nothing miraculous about extraterrestrial flight. There's nothing at all about it. That's the first thing I would go to It doesnt it's not magic. I'm sorry. Oh, you know, another factor with the drones over New Jersey. sounds like an old time movie. that period, it's interesting how route eighty next to route fifteen, where the military center is and caves are and maybe that's where they're keeping the drones. interestnteresting how the highway caved in after that H. Interesting. Oh, when it was Minehft. I'm sure there's Minehft there. But I see what you're doing too is right? you're very good about that. You love to find connections. It was a movie it was several years ago on PBS called Connections with James, I don know what his fellow had these kind of British glalasses. Let me give you another one which reminds me of this Poenix light. Phoenix lights were absolutely documented. This is So it's march thirteenth, nineteen ninety seven in Phoenix, you could see pictures left and right Thousands, thousands of people reported lights in a large V formation across the sky. I mean, it was huge. FIife Symington, who I believe the governor was at the time. Later that night, there was another stationary lights appeared in Phoenix. The event became one of the most famous UFO sightings in U.S history. The US the military later on said that the stationary lights were, by the way, most likely illumination flares. And they said no, Illillumination flares don't move like this across. they don't fly A flare hangs in the sky and then slowly drifts to the ground. They said that there was some there was the Berry Goldwater range. So what happened was at the time, people came forward and the military always comes out and always gives you this ridiculous version of what happened. And it's always again, flares, military it was a misunderstanding. Thousands of people? No. There was another one, another important night during the It was in Los Angeles. they saw something and the military opened up with thousands or hundreds at least rounds of machine gun. they thought it was maybe the Japanese. There are so many instances where I battle over LA Yes, andDC. and it goes on and on and on. Now. Well, the triangle is a very common military shape and flight shape. So who knows? that could have been a a satellite being sent up or rotating throughout the Earth. And you know, we're just left to sit here like a bunch of goons and say, oh, what's up? Well let me ask you something. I have never in my life seen military craft flying in a V at night with lights that go off and on or a light that appears to be in an orb, disappears and then breaks into two and then three and then disappears or flies off instantaneously. There is the famous G YouTube. Look at this. Thankk God for YouTube. It was Fox News even covered it. It was the temple Mount in Jerusalem. All right? And there was an orb that came down almost like somebody was lowering like the like the Times Square ball, so to speak, but it was kind of glowing. It was kind of it was spherical. and it kind of lowered and then it all of a sudden took off at a speed that if you blinked or if it just was not normal. Now this was on TV. This is live,' right there in in in Chelsea or above Chelsea here in New York They have pictures. Ebody took out their cameras. They saw lights going off and on and during the day. And so anyway What I don't necessarily, I'm not saying this is from another planet, but I do not necessarily have to explain how this is, well, this is obviously the type of. M maybe I'm tired. They always come up with this I'm tired I don't necessarily want to believe that, but in the realm of possibilities, I think there is most probably and most assuredly, a series of craft appearances. and by the way, one more thing not to believe the point cra if I sat down with you and I said, Now, Pamela, listen, you're not going to believe this, but I have an extraterrestrial cat here. I want you to listen to him. And he sits there and he'll say, why do you think we're in a craft Well, that's the way you think. We might be in an energy system. Somebody suggestsed it's almost like like an energy field like plasma. Why do you think it's a craft? Why do you think we're inside? You think we're seatbelted in? We're at the instrument panel? S because we always think the way we do And I love the way they say, Well, and it made no noise. There was no sound of propulsion. The critter would say, why would there be sound? That's what you do. You burn fuel. We use antigravitic time space manipulation We dimple and indent the space. We don't fly. We fall. Our movement is acceleration, but the way you fall. And they would look at you and you would say, what are you talking about? And also If you met one of these, this one another thing I found grate fault with not to spoiler. I do not believe that there's been evidence of these things talking, making noises, having a voice box. Somebody suggested years ago Now One of the reasons why these mouths seem so almost invisible is that talking doesn't make any sense and that they don't eat the way we do. They power their systems through photosynthesis. that kind of a system. They don't have to ingest food. That's so pedestrian. Eat, elimination? No So anyway, I think not that I believe it, but I err, necessarily on the side of perhaps the phantasmogoric versus the military. Pamela, it's always a pleasure. You're one of the best schars. I thank you immensely Let me go quickly let's go to let me see who else did Let's go to Oh my God, let me see something. Can we Let's go to Ricky New Jersey, Rick, you're on another side of Midnight Wood line Good morning, Rionalel. Good morning, sir. Yes, sir. Yes. We're talking about the USOs. and I used to live out in the high desert in Yino County, California. and it was a whole USO hotpot. I would literally sit in my backyard with my dog and watch them fly back and forth against the mountains every night. It was part of my entertainment. What did you see? describe it as best you can? Okay. The classic saucer shape, two saucers on top of each other, one on top of each other that shake glowing. And I have a theory about why they glow because people safor is so advanced, why can't they go stealthy? Well, I think it has to do with the propulsion system in our atmosphere. It can't get away from that Okay I'm veryar I've heard it' say it was almost plasma, It's plasma orange.. And by the way, one of the reasons why they wobble when you see them lower is that interference with either our, I don't know what the particular term is gravity or whatever, but they'll wobble. Did you know that a flying saucreer is believe when it flies in space turns on its side and travels that Oh Yeah, and they don't glow. That's why I think it has to do something with her atmosphere. Indeed. But but Lionel It's ingrained in the a community there. What really blew my mind as much as the saucer is was the way the townspeople took it. I asked the sheriff once, you know, what are these things I'm looking at? He goes, Oh, this saucer's, donon't try to catch him. You can never catch him. I said, What do you mean? goes Yeah, we've been trying to catch him for decades. You just don't bother. And then he had to take off an emergency thing and leave me. And then one time Yeah, yeah. And then one time I was up in the little cafe. I live in a town of four. The cafe up had a beep one hundred, so I went up there to eat And kind of four? Yeah, well, five when I moved in. I tried to get my dog made I tried to get my dog made at a sixth resident, but they wouldn't do it. Very good. Yeah. And So I asked these teenagers they were like, you know, what do you guys do on a Saturday night? It's like toown of one hundred. What do your kids do? He goes, Ohh, we drink beer, watch saucers drink beer, make out with our girlfriends and watch the saucers light. Excuse me. Is said excuse me Yeah like our daddyies did, we go up on the lover's lane there and make out, drink beer and watch the saucers lane. It was just part of their engrave. It blew my mind more than how a matter of fact they just took it than the actual saucers. It was now, let me stop you right here This this, I think belies or this refutes, I should say, this notion that, well, the reason why we can't disclose this is people will run into the street. They'll be horrified. They'll be No, they won't. No. Nothing bothers us. The thing The only time we run into the street is if there's a Nix title or something like that and we want to turn over a bus But we don't don't we don't nothing really bothers us. I think we're under so much psych meds and antidepressants that we just gave up that emotion years ago. You't believe. Don't you believe that there is at least one, but that there is another system whether it's a planet, I don't know, a star. But there is something other than Earth like, something that is O terrama, our earth related that has its own sense of presence, its own sense of propulsion, its own sense of worth. it's just there. And I don't know why he doesn't want to get out and talk with us I don't care about that. But for anybody to suggest that this is something other than what it is, I think is preposterous. We are not alone. They are here constantly in some form or another. Agree or disagree. Oh, absolutely Absolutely. And the military they are not ours. The military is researching them because they rented the ranch right next to mine. Our ranch was seventeen thousand acres. and wow. Yeah, yeah, you homestead. so they didn't have to pay for it. And They rented the kind of like the Skinwalker ranch. you know, they rented this ranch right next to us Id see military trucks coming in and out all the time. neverever said what kind of military. just said U.S military. an army. I like the kind of like a generic like road. Yeah, ye a generic green truck, you know. And listen Yeah, yes, sir, quickly, sir. Well, yeah, well, yeah, they were they were out there researching because they saw them too.. Rick, I thank you. I must run. The clock is my enemy. I thank you, see, that is what I want to hear. I love that. I want to hear what you saw and don't refute it. Tell me exactly why you think it is exactly what it was Something from elsewhere. That's all because we are definitely not alone. 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One of the things which this movie disclosure, which my wife and I saw yesterday, I guess, which I didn't think even was that good. I thought that the script was just really poor. but They paid a little kind of a short shrift refference to what you call crop circles Absolutely, positively, one hundred percent. Have you ever seen them appear And people have said, oh, that's a couple of drunk guys out with a board and a plank in there. Yeah, really? Okay. So have you ever seen how big these are and they can be seen from the sky? and they're so symmetrical, so perfect, so beautiful. Let's say that Bill and Jackson and I one night we get a load on and we go onto a wheat field or something that, you know somethingomething where there's grass And I say All right Here's the basic design of this thing. Now Jackson, you get that board. And Bill, you put that on your feet. I want you to make circles And I want you to understand you can't see where you're going. You can't rise above this. Maybe you can now with a drone, but you sure couldn't do this before. And I want this to be absolutely positively Perfectly proportion. I want you to do a series of circles, a series of them interconnected. and I want to make each circle exactly the same size. Can you do that with a board? Good, goodood luck Now, when I see something and I say, no, wait a minute There's something I wr right here. I don't know if this is from another planet. Could it be an energy a life from? I don't know. Could these people, these things that we call from another planet, could they live here in our oceans, underground I don't know. I don't have to tell you them It's like whenever somebody tells you, whenever you dispute, I've told you this repeatedly There are some official narratives of nine hundred and eleven I don't believe make sense And so somebody will then say, well, what do you think happens? Excuse me, This is your story, not mine. I don't have to explain anything. You came to me with this story And if I don't believe it, you figure out something. I don't have to come up with a reason why. Well do you know how far it would take for somebody to travel? Who says they travel? Who says they get up in the morning, kiss their wife goodbye get into their craft and fly at near the speed of light Why are you creating this This is their story. They're here. I don't have to tell you where they're from, how they got here. They're here You figure that out. I don't have to do this We have more to talk about. This is so good. And also, what was your favorite kind of UFO movie? For me, hands down close encounters, simply the best And that's when Spielberg was really connected. You know what I mean? I mean really connected. eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two, two, more coming up on another side of midnight with a lyel smmart security made simple. That's the new Blink two K videoide doorbell lineup. 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Back again You know, I think the aliens might be having something to do with us You know, you might laugh my friends, but I think there's something to be said for that every now and then The Gremlins are such where we say, wait a minute, what's going on here In any event, eight hundred eight four H nine, two, two two, do not let this bother you. We are professionals. know we know what we are doing As I was saying before, dear friends, I have loved this story And we'll always talk about it because I do not believe whenever I am asked This idea, do you believe Do you believe? I don't know what I'm necessarily going to believe in But I have no reason not to believe something. Believe to me, I guess people need proof of something beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. I don't need that I know. in my heart of hearts that sometimes I believe in circumstantial evidence And sometimes we as a jury that after all life is a courtroom We as a jury are able to say, you know what? You didn't give me necessarily a picture of the guy committing the murder. You didn't give me a picture of the person standing over the b. But there's enough circumstantial evidence here Prs eyewitness testimony, confessions I think there's something to this. and what people don't understand that and I don't want to bring this into it because I'm very, very careful because religion is a very, very special thing and I in no way want to in any way markck or suggest anything But what people allow themselves, what people believe And what they allow themselves to believe absolutely consider normal based upon I'm sorry to say Perhaps maybe a personal feeling folklore, in some cases reference mythology. Again, I'm not suggesting there is no God, but what I'm saying is people feel have absolutely no problems whatsoever belieelving in the system of God. which is completely fine based upon nothing nothing other than what's in their heart but you mean to tell me Let me get this straight. You mean to tell me that I can see things flying around landing landing. It's landing, sometimes getting out, sometimes talking to us And you mean to tell me that there's nothing there that there's nothing at all there That is just ridiculous, that it's a waste of time Do you mean to tell me that I'm supposed to just dismiss it No It doesn't work like that I think there's something that we see and all of us have known this from the beginning of time I don't want to be too too mythical, too too magical, but I will do this thing which is the most fascinating to me probably out of all of the human emotions and human experices that is this thing called love N trying to be corny here People have lost their minds. over love over what they believe to be the appearance, the belief of love. And what is that? Does that exist It does in your heart It does in your mind,. it does kind of sort of in your belief system But is it real? Yes meeasure it. tellell me where it is Tell me where it exists in the real world Good luck And if it exists and if I can acknowledge love And if I can believe in something like it, then I can sure as heck believe is something that has landed. landed on this Planet and talk to people and communicated with people Since the beginning of time My friends, this is the most important thing in the world And what we have to do is to recognize that while we are But I'm sorry but while we are doing best that we can to try to make sense out of the world Don't overlook the obvious. Now this movie, reason why I'm saying this disclosure day hit the movie theaters. And while I please go see it, I, you may get something out of it. I think the script was poor It wasn't Spielberg at his best casting was wrong, the story was wrong And it was written, I think by somebody who really didn't understand kind of how things work And I think There is this tendency people to make things sound magical Mystical and there's no reason for that Sometimes these things, I think, when they speak to is eventually, they're going to be as a matter of fact as anything. They're just going to be there And they're not going to impart in us the ability to speak German all of a sudden or to have us levitate or to glow or to cure disease I think that's kind of our natural tendency, this love that we have of folklore and this love that we have of the mysterious to kind of fill in the blanks So what I'm saying is It's a great great movie, but it's a great great subject and God, I have loved this forever. and I still believe As I had mentioned before, the best movie Bar not. The best film the best depiction as far as I'm concerned which makes it has true faue of all things in it is close encounters of the third kind. I think that is the best. I love the way they are in essence motivated Lord, Cold by something that they don't even know why they're doing it They don't know why they're doing it And the good news is mister Lee, I believe we are ready to go And I'm going to continue with this right now If you don't mind, we're going to continue with this. I think I think the aliens have granted us a reprieve From this, our number is eight hundred, eight four eight nine, two, two two. eight hundred, eight four eight nine, two, two, two This is Lionel with you on another side of Midnight. This is another sideide of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Berar McGurk stududios here'ers Lionel Yeah our last call I would say, they are hoovering. They are hoovering around us. eight hundred eight four eight nine, two, two, two. Let's go to Rberta in Brooklyn Roberta, you're on another side of the night with Lionel Okay, Lino, so you're talking about UFOs and all those things and I've been listening to you for years. I am goddamn eighty five years old and I was just for about to go back to sleep because I'm tired of the UFOs and then something wonderful happens on your show. and I need you to tell me something You played your opening jingle or song that says line, line, linele over and over and I absolutely love it. I've been wanting to hear the whole thing for years. What is the name of that song? sign is called The song is called Nina Morena by the Gypsy Kings and it's our new thing now which I've talked to Billy about. We're going to be playing our theme Between five and six minutes to give people In fact, we might play the whole CD But I thank you for that one. Yes I think maybe you had technical problems that made you keep doing it But I know notothing gets by you. You not. Nothing gets by you. I thank you so much. I like that I scraed when somebody calls up and says, you know, I was getting sick and tired of this UFO phot talk getting sick and tired of this. But then I heard the song. I love honesty. Honesty is a good thing. Eded Indiana, Ed You're on another side of midnight with the linel Hey Lionel. I was thinking about Father's Day. and celebrating Dad's Day as an aside. But I want to call about what we believe in and I hope we haven't done it to to our finality and about things we believe in and as a mass on our dollar bills printed in God we trust. And you know, why? why is that on the bill? And the separation of church and state and that's on the bill and they made a movie like a conclusion of a movie was about that and May I ask you a very simple question not to be rude. Have you ever researched that? No, I haven't, but I've been doing a lot of Bible studying Let me ask you a very simple question. And again, not in any way to be rude But if this is something that's bothered you If this is something that's made you say, wait a minute, why do we do this Do you think maybe it might be a good idea to, I don't know, research it kind of look at it and say, wonder why that is And I'm curious why you haven't. Again, I'm not trying to point fingers because the evidence, there's so much evidence And so much history as to why we do that. Why do you think that's so I think we do that because we we feel and we realize that and it doesn't bother me. I express and I embrace that that that's something that we do, I do believe in. and No, no, no, no. The issue is not whether you are bothered by it The issue is why do you think that we have this on our coinage? And when did we add this to our coinage And what was the purpose of that? not It doesn't really bother anybody, really. I think anybody we're just kind of useful. We don't even notice it. Who looks at coins? who's going to have coins in the future But the idea was right around the fifties, the reason why if you want to know, The reason for this was because of the fact that we were trying to show those heen Ruskies that we believed in something other than what they did. And it was a push by the by the Kight of Columbus, that push to this and others as well, to add it to, we also added under God. in the pledge of Allegiance, rightight around the fifties. This was not in the original U for of it. that was added later on. And it was done perhaps symbolically to let the world know at the time of the height of the Cold War that this is who we were. That's why You let me ask you a question What do you mean by separation of church and state? Is that a law anywhere I don't know, but I was teaching a class and I told them there's to there's two reasons why why we're here, why we exist And I can talk about one of them, but be wary that there there's another one. there's creationism and there's evolution. I said, I cannot talk about creationism But I will be talking about evolution and Why can't not talk about creation because it's a thought and it's a theory and it's a It may be proven through certain things that people ignore or do not want to listen to But the state state what do you believe personal beliefs Yeah, we're able There's something We don't say in Bal we trust. No, no, no, no, no. You believe in creationism I believe in Yeah, I believe in a little bit of both L When when does one kick in and when does one not What do you mean you live primary? The primary, of course, I believe, is a creationism. The other one kicks in as so to speak, as you say, upon various things environment, nutrition manyany things the world you study this much? Have you studied this much Have I studied I've studied a lot of things Lyel. No, no, no. Have you studied this subject much I've taken I've taken a course No, you don't have to take a course You do know that right now and again, I'm not trying to be rude through the marvels of chat GPT and other forms of AI, which can scrape the entire universe of information There are movements afoot right now. There are people who believe very, very strongly that Darwinian mechanics may make sense for little things the curve of a beak of a finch or plumage or something along those lines. But when you look at the Cambrian explosion There were some things in, if you look at the pas and logical record that none of this makes it doesn't work The idea of of evolution. It would take too long. Sometimes there are things that happenens so quickly so explosively best way of explaining this is indeed this notion, this thing called Creationism. intelligent design. I can't tell you enough You cannot sit back. And again, I'm not being rude here But you cannot sit back and just muse and just say, Gee, I wonder I think no, no, investigate, read. read the great words, there is an explosion right now going on. In fact, there are Darwinian u the theorists who cannot standed the notion that there may in fact be something to this thing called creationism. But thank you for your call. please But listen, do me a favor everyone listening to me. My Please research this Don't sit back and think, you know I don't know. Go and pick up any any AI programs. It doesn't really matter. and you know, to even call it AI Whether it's chat GP or chat GPP or what have you complexity Flaed. It doesn't matter I just ask What is the evidence, for example, of UFOs? What is the evidence of this? Why do we have in God we trust? What is the famous letter from Jefferson who used and coined the term separation of church and state There is an inuriosity. and by the way, you have to learn how to be an autodidact, how to be self taught. you have to be fueled by and moved by this thing called this passion Fashion that you feel recording the information. Anyway So back let's go to Pat in New Jersey, Pat. You're on another side of midnight with a linel. Hi Lionel. thanks so much for taking the call and I'm just checking into let you know that my All time favorites are the first and second thing the thing U the movie, the movie that you're asking?, who who who. First and Second thing the movieies thing Okay Tell me why, please Um because I think it As a kid, Um, that it was one of the original one that had been made just a couple of years before I was born All right It came out as not like a Frankenstein or you know an unbelievable monster movie. It was something to me as a little kid that could actually occur. And it was more scary to me thinking that this is a possibility rather than a fake Hollywood version of a scary monster And it still holds today. I mean, I still think when you're talking about aliens, being here They don't necessarily have to be, you know, odd shaped or d acting, they could just look like us. I mean, if they're that intelligent to get here, obviously they could mimic anything. So right. The fact that aliens can just show up anywhere and I believe too that they are here already Um, Why wouldn't they be right? But that one, just the paranoia in those movies and the darkness of it and just the characters unbelievability of this occurrence and how they started to doubt each otherss Um identity as maybe being the alien really grabbed me That's why I like this. Why does this have to be negative Um necessarily negative, but the movies came across that way No, I know that, but I'm saying it always goes to show there's this inherent human bias that always makes the aliens either Evil. Oh it scary Or But the other thing I'm thinking of is, why are they necessarily benevolent Let me ask you something Can you think of any animal, anything that we've ever caught For it I don't know, raised that we were ever kind to other than a pet L like a kitten or a dog that we like. But for the most part, we're pretty awful to those things that are subspecies. W you not agree I definitely agree. I don't like it, but I defly agree. because I think there's so much more delgent than we are How do we know that? See, that's another thing. Why can't they be J but listen to what I'm saying, Listen to what I'm saying. Look at how we build all this stuff into it where we think they must be more intelligent than we are. must Why? I mean, what if they're just a little bit more? What if they're just a little bit more better at flying and communicating I love the way we have these preconceived ideas of things. we will the way they look, what they want. How about this? Why don't they just go to the White House and speak with President Trump? What? Why would they want to speak with President Trump or Obama or anybody else for that matter Why? Let me ask you this question. The world right now, our Eth is about four and a half billion years old, right? Four and a half billion years old. That's four thousand five hundred million years, right So if there was another place that was four thousand five hundred and one million years old just a million years moreore advanced than we are We are led to believe that from nineteen what, nineteen oh three to was Wright Brothers or what have you. And then nineteen sixty nine was landing on the moood. So in a mere sixty six years We went from the Wright brrothers to landing on the Mon, just sixty six years. Imagine if somebody had a million years on us, a million Now what if it said for you, We can travel in ways you haven't even conceived of? you haven't even been able to even understand or grasp the notion of this. I find it fascinating. I love the way we believe things to be the way they are. And also do you think they how do you think they would communicate with us If they show up, is there a voice? Do they write something down? Do we point to stuff? How do we communicate This is another sideide of Midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernardne McGurk studios, hereers Lionel You alady line up with you? eight hundred eight four eight. nine, two, two, two. You know, I love the notion of religion. I don't want to get into it because people always think we're kind of told. Stay away from it. I'm never going pit one against the other. I'm never saying who's right or who's wrong. I just love the idea of framing everything through through through the prism of that. And what's interesting to note is that If intelligent and extraterrestrial beings exist And if they are freely seeking a relationship with God The church, I don't believe would not automatically exclude them from the sacrament simply because they're not human No somebody one time told me you had to be You have to be from the of Adam. You would have to be part of the lineage of Adam, meaning a human as it were. I don't know. Again, far be it for me to follow the rules, donon't know about that. But also would originals have original sin The church really has no teaching on this. would an alien need salvation at all? They might never have quote, fallen from grace. And if they did need salvation, then the argument would then would Christ's incarnation and sacrifice on earth apply universally Or could God have revealed Hself to them in some entirely different way Again, he says The questions are what fascinate me. more than anything else, Joel in California. You're on another side of midnight with Lionel Good morning, Mrter Liono. First and foremost, I would like to say what I'm about to tell you, I sent you the video at comments at WIBcradio dot com that way if you get a chance to check it out, you can. But back in October october ninth of twenty nineteen, I was out in my patio with my stepdaughter and former wife We were cleaning the patio up It was about eight or nine o'clock at night And something caught our eyes up in the sky. It looked like a bright white ball ball and it had a tail resembling like like a bolt of wavy lightning I took up my phone and I started recording it. I said, Holy smokes, what the heck is this And anyhow, I recorded it for about two minutes. At first I thought it may have been a rocket launch. But afterwards, I realized had it been a rocket launch from Vandenburg, it would have came from the opposite direction Right. And it really it really did not just it really did not look like a rocket launch So anyhow describe it It was a bright white ball, like white hot fiery ball with Oh my God, the tail was amazing. My phone did not do the video when he just this. When you say the tail, the tail, the light had a tail Yeah, it was a bright white hot ball. I mean, it was shin bright and it had a tail in mine it was not a comet. And it was not a shooting star because I recorded two minutes and six seconds of it And anyhow Because it's right but but it wasn't moving. But it wasn't moving. It wasn't No, yes, sir. it was moving. It was moving like an upper uppwardly direction Okay. and how f because I've never It was it was it was moving pretty fast. It was moving pretty fast When did it when did you lose sight of it? D Did it just immediately lose takeake off in a flash. Oh It was the only reason I stopped recording was because I couldn't get really a good focus on it. No no, I'm not asking you that. I'm asking you Okay. didid it hover and move slowly up? Did it eventually disappear? Did it did it fly out? See, I want to know And by the way, thank you so so much for sharing this I want to know Youre imagine you're in court. takeake us there It hovered. It changed color. It moved left to right. It was wobbly. It was stationary. It moved, it broke into two spheres. Then all of a sudden it went from north or south to north straight up in an instant or it flew and came back. it hovered. It changed color. It moved left to right, right to left. That's what I want to hear. Right. Yes, sir. It did not change color. It was moving. It was like I said, from west to east in up in an uwardly direction. It never changed color And did very, very quickly, did anybody else do or are you aware of anybody else who saw that other than you and your immediate family? As a matter of fact, sir y, sir, my stepdaughter was there in my former w who stay O than your im other than your immediate family, anything in the newspaper, anything from neighbors, anybody outside of your immediate family As a matter of fact, sir, what I wanted to say to you was that a few months later, you know what? I hate to do this. I thank you for your cl. Please, sir, please sir, hear me out It's another side of midnight with Lionel now here's Lionel How areana with you? This is hour number three, the final hour of this thing of ours on another side of Mid night, eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. By the way, you can follow me on YouTube at Lyel Nation and on X at Lionel Media A Couple of things, whenever you are reporting something whether it's a neighbor, a burglary, a UFO One thing I want you to remember always to do and take this from somebody who has been dealing with testimony for a long time, Make sure you always, always look at your watch. Whenever you see something, just look at your watch, lookook at your clock, look at your phone Get an idea of the time. that's all There's nothing like, when did you see it? four hundred fifty three. Really? Yep. How do you know? I looked at my watch Whenever something isives of any note, an accident, a noise, just always, always, always get into the habit of what time was it? Because the time can be critical Another thing too is I like when people tell the stories in the past U in the present tenense. So I'm walking down the street And I see this guy, excuse me, you're walking down the street? No, you're not, you're righting here in front of me, No, no, no. So I see this guy. Where? Where's the guy? I don't see him. No, no. I saw, I was why. Ites't really matter. By the by today, the word, my favorite word which people use far too often is literally And I literally was walking down the street. There's no reason for you to ex as opposed to figuratively. Now, what we're talking about is people who were saying this. Let me see if I could paraphrase On this particular date in time at four fifty three AM, I noticed somethingomet strange in the eastern sky. It's nothing I've ever seen. It wasn't a helicopter, It wasn't a drone. it didn't have colored lights, nothing blinked. There was no pattern. You can always tell, there's always things floating around, but there's lights that blink. belieelieve it or not Most UFO craft that we know, do not have runway lights or hazard lights. you know, the flashing ball so they don't run into something. It wasn'tli anything I ever saw It hovered, or some people say hovered. it hovered. It hovered for a while and then took off in a flash east to west. And it was it mimicked no aircraft, no helicopter, no plane, no jet Nothing hovers except a helicopter, notothing or a drone. And when the drone and the helicopter leave and exit, they are not able to take off that fast And by the way, one of the things people always ask, they say, how could this possibly have someone in it? How can you fly at this particular direction, stop and make a hard ride turn without there being damaged due to G forces. Well . Who says there's anybody in there? There's another hypothesis that says that they create their own inertial bubble and that they're able to withstand the G forces by virtue of how it's almost in this protective coating There was another hypothesis that Phil of Coro and other people advanced, whether it's true or not, I kind of liked the idea that when certain of these critters were to be actually locomoting about the space. They would be in a suit a particular space suit or something and some type of a wand or a headband or something that went around their head, which acted almost as a guidance system. And they would place their hands into what it would appear to be kind of like recessed kind of injected, not metal or something, where their hands and their head almost completed a circuit, like a transistor, like a circuit where they thought where this craft Gs. The flying saucer, by the way was, as I think you've heard Kenneth Thrnold brought that up. He didn't even say flying saucer. It was like saucers skipping over the phrase was misused When you are flying or moving and locomoting about in in a non kind of a non how should I say this? in your own inertial bubble using dimpled What am I trying to say dimpled spacim dimpled or divoted little drops to affect the spaceetime continuum so that you are falling. It's almost like an acceleration As ours I don't want to gobbledly gook this up, but the idea is that they don't travel The way we travel was something behind us pushing us forward They travel using ' kind of a non Gravitic fall. They accelerate through falling. In any event, all of this changes the rules completely. And the question you have to ask is, do you know what would happen to the transportation world If If, per se, we could somehow figure this thing out. If we could figure a way to Not you worry about put it this way, you wouldn't have to worry about the strait of Hormz. You wouldn't have to worry about price per barrel of oil or anything. There would be jet fuel would be a thing of the best jet fuel W jet fuel What were you talking about? Do you know how it would change everything? Not only that. As you know, Russia has a hypersonic missile and ballistic a missile system that you just cannot see. You've got to see this It's like u It's like watching a peregrine falcon hit something in mid aair. You just if you blink You'll miss it. What if this form of propulsion blows that away? Now let me do this. Let's go back to the phones. Let's go to Barry. Barry was finishing up his story And I wanted to give him all the time in the world Bury are you still there, sir A I talking to Barry? Ohm sorry, Jo earlier Joel excuse me, I'm sorry, Jo Jo, Joel, Jo. I'm sorry Joel, Yes yes, yes. I'm sorry. I completely forgot. So So yes, sir, you were asking me if anyone else saw this let me say this that this particular sighting made may made it in a UFO show. I wish I could recall which UFO show it was but about UFO Yes, so you know, one of these UFL specials, I cannot recall the name. I had it on TV, on YouTube, a group a meetings Okay TV, sir. Yeah on TV. There was a couple of tourists. I live with I live I live near Joshua Tree National Park so we have a lot of tourists. So a couple of tourists was going down the local road. They saw the same thing I saw. they pulled over to the side and they recorded the sighting and they recorded what I saw and it made the TV show I wish I could recall which show it was. Doesn't matter. doesnes't matter. So let let's wrap this up. The bottom line is in conclusion, what did we learn? What did what's your takeaway? What can we learn from what you saw Well I believe there's unidentify flying objects out there and the government stop for a second. kids. It was it was flying You don't know what it was When you say unidentified flying object, you mean intelligent life that that's responsible for this craft moving. You don't That's what you mean. You mean an alien craft. You don't mean a UFO. You mean there's something from someplace else that was driving this This wasn't just an object that you couldn't identify. That is something, the way I look at it, something that is not ours Okay, that's the only way. And when have you ever told anybody this Yes, sir, yes, sir. I've told my friends about it. I've showed my friends videos. What do they say? they're like, wow, they can't they can't believe it. But what do they think it is Well, I have some friends who think, well, it's a meteor. I go, Well, if it was a meteor, I don't think California will be standing here right now because that No, no, no, no. firstirst of off, who was a meteor, a meteor doesn't act unliike the meteor doesn't either hover forit. Anyway, Joel, I thank you, I must run. I thank you, Sza very much I'm not trying to be too her snickety But I just I sort of want a little more. You see, there are people who are never going to believe anything. There are other people who never not believe. Not only do they believe this's from another planet or another solar system or never whatever. they believe it's there to give us guidance to I mean, they go a little bit in the opposite direction. It's all a matter of perspective. Now Let's go to let me go to Steve in Tennessee, Steve. You're on another side of Midnightwood Linel. Hey, Lidel. give you another laugh You know, back about four or five hourars ago, somebody said they saw whatever it was Bry. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah I. You a flying vacuum cleaner You know, Steve, you have a wit. That is dangerous Please don't ever abuse it. Now, what are your thoughts, sir? like you know, something else. If they're aliens and they're not of our species, we obviously can't use the term holy smoke or holy Toledo or holy cow Why They're not holy But we cant use them now Anyway because a cow is not holy and Toledo's not holy. We can't use that phrase now, so why would anything be different Well, I guess it wouldn't be about you started. All right, Steve, thank you so much. Have a great night, sir. I appreciate that. I D don't know where that one went, ladies and gentlemen, but But it had a lot of promise to it. Now, Barry in New York, Barry, you're on another other side of Midnight with Lyionel Yes Hi Lono, thank you for taking my call. a real pleasure to be on this show. I just wanted to tell you that many years ago, I was twenty eight years of age and I was going home from Manhattan in the evening. It was a Sunday night, the weather was ge cold. It must have been close to zero in the wind chill factor. And I was heading to the subway at about several blocks to walk because there were no taxis available. In fact, I recall there was nobody on the street I was walking on Avenue of the Americas heading towards fifty seventh Street. and I was join the ABC Broadcasting builduilding at the time. Y that I looked up in the sky. because there was a very heavy overcast And I remember thinking to myself Oh but Gee, it's going to be another bad day because we had several days of intermittent rain. It was very cold And just before my eyes could gravitate back to the street level, I see a light coming through the heavy overcast which I thought initially was a helicopter of some sort. And what turned out to be this huge cylindrical object That was as big as a football field. It was so the clarity was amazing And it was a few hundred feet, very in close proximity above the ABC Broadcasting buildilding was humongous, and you can actually see The entire shape of it had a dome on the top The bottom was all dark, but around it was it Was it a cigar shaped Yeah It was definitely cylindrical. It was actually a saucer, but as big as a football field So it was a saucer, not a cylinder. So it was a saucer as big as a football field, did anybody around you see this? Did you did you this is my dilemma You know, I quickly scanned the street because I wanted to get a validation from another person who could also attest to the fact that what I was seeing was true. But at that moment in time, there wasn't even a car coming down the street. There wasn't another pedestrian, but I couldn't tear my eyes away from this thing that I was looking at because I knew This was something so extraordinary that the chances are my seeing something like this ever again would probably never occur So I'm looking at this and spinning It was on a forty five degree angle And you could see the lights that came out of these windows, you could see sl fllips like that made windows they were square. But they circled the entire mid section of the sucer shappe object And it looked like LED lights. They were brilliant, white, white And u As I'm looking at this, it's and it didn't make a sound by the way. And they're like this is ro I'm sorry No let me put you on hold. I don't want to cut you off. I want to give you the time to explain this. But the clock, I must take this interruption This is Lyionel with you on another side of midnight. It's another side of midnight with Lionel June is Black Music Month. We don't just celebrate music, we feel it. 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Working in state of the art facilities with influential This is another sideide of midnight with Lionel. Now to the Bernard McGurk stududios, here's Lionel All right, my friend, Lina with you eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. You know, one time I was speaking with a dear friend of ours. her name is Mi Pang. And Mi Pang I was living with her her bow, I guess at the time you I want to say, John Lennon on the East side, I think they were maybe around I don't know where it was exactly, but It was august twenty third Of nineteen seventy four, they were on their terrace, and John Lennon and his partner, Mai Pang, saw a silent saucer like craft with flashing white lights and a bright red kind of aop drift down the East Rriver, she showed me the picture that he drew And this, by the way is very interesting. This is a in terms of the rules of evidence, this is a contemporaneous a drawing or memorization or a contemporaneous reference that can be used later on as an exception to the hearsay rule where you took it down, you drew this as it was occurring. And she saw it, I believe her. He saw it. I believe her him through her. And this is the case of Thousands of people And and what what I gota this is what drives me nuts It admittedly it's not a very long ride There's just somebody says, But why would they want to just hoover, as someone would say, Why would they want to do this? they don't question The The intent, the motivation I don't know why That doesn't invalidate what I saw just because you can't figure out why. So let me fure I finish up with Barry in New Jersey. Barry, you were going to make a very important point, and I'm going to give you time to wrap it up, sir Yes, whoa. Ecuse me. when I saw this when I was witness to this sighting, right I remember at the time I was a motion picture lab technician and I worked a night shift. When I had returned to work on a Monday night, which was the beginning of my week I related this to my coworkers and just to let you know how naive I was, I never thought that I would be opening up the door to be the object of ritel. I mean, nobody believed me and I was I was so anxious to share my story with. peoplee who were very I was close to, they were my friends, coworkers, whatever. And I just couldn't believe the feedback I was getting and I really regretted having said anything at all. Exactly Isn't that something? And here they are, Barry, they work with you. You've never exhibited any kind of moment of hallucinations. You don't walk in. you've never walked in and said, Hey, know, I saw Lancecelot and King Arthur, but you never saw that. never said that. And for you to be able to describe where you were As I told somebody, when it was the time, the temperature above the ABC building, I believe everything you said Now I may not be able to tell you who, what when, where, why, Was it military? I don't know anything about that But I appreciate Bear with yourre call and I thank you, sir. You gott to keep in mind, be very careful, as a friend of mine one time said, pilots are basically told don't even think about this. You will not be cleared to be able to transport souls as they're called. let's go to Akram in New Jersey You're on the other side of midnight? Ecuse me, you're on another side of midnight with Langel. Yeah, you've always had difficulty in, you know analyzing the two the other side of midnight and another sideight of there. That's difficult. yeah. But anyway, you are still a very entertaining person, but I'm still entertaining even though another and the other sometimes confound me, but I'm still Entertertaining and I appreciate that Yes. And one of the things that I want to draw to your attention is the danger of white supremacy, especially as What the hell does that have to do with this? It's about religion It's about religen. What is whiteupremacy if you if you be a little patient, you might learn something. But again, white supremacy is Okay doing it again. It wouldn't mean it again Make your case. Go ahead. Wh White supremacy believes in what they believe and nobody could teach the white supremacy anything. Women This is gibberish. White supremacy believes in what they believe. What does that mean, sir What does white supremacy define it? It means that You that mentality teaches that God, the creator of the universe, impregnated a man's wife. That's white supremacy. Well let me finish say what I'm saying. No, no, think that do you think that black people believe in the message of Christianity are they white supremacists as well Of course they are victims, like you have the American neegro Victims. like you have the American Negro Dominic Cara So you're sayingop stop You're saying, listen to me stop for a. you're saying that people who believe in Christianity that they are victims of or believe in white supremacy Yes, because God impregnated a man's wife. Now you're repeating yourself. You're repeating yourself. You're not able you're still not able to explain Why this is white supremacy versus let's say being just erroneous. Let me ask you for the third or fourth timees. That's exactly the white supremacy. You will know You're doing it again now for the fifth time You're just saying white supremacy. If I say that ketchup is white supremacy, and I just keep repeating it Tell me why Christianity is white supremacy. Be God had a white baby. you know the pictures that Let me ask you again. let me try this again Let me try this again Where do you think Christ was allegedly or you probably don't believe this, where was Christ born? Will not you afraid of the truth Let me try this again. Wh was whereere was Christ the white baby? Where was Christ born I'm talking about the images that you teach. No no, we're talking about you. No, no, listen to me. I love toying with people, especially people who are my intellectual inferior, but youve gott to at least give me a help here You said a white baby. You're saying Christ was white You never seen the picture of the God that you people No, stop with the pictures Forget the pictures. Forget the pictures. Forget the pictures. forget the pictures. Forget the pictures. I've seen a black Santa. I've seen a lot of things. What is the story? What does the Bible say? Where was Christ born And what does it say as far as Christ's race? Where did you get? God this God is God incarnate. That's what you teach And you teach the world this nonsense, this savagery. Okay. you have a nice day, sir, I appreciate this. Listen Do me a favor. I swear to you, and I mean this with all my heart. If you believe something that is completely contradictory to let's say history If you believe that George Washington was black or I swear to you, I'll listen to you. But you can take a premise. you can't say white supremacy and just use it. First of all, it's boring. Number two, it doesn't explain anything. And number three, you might have something to it, but you've got to be able to explain it That's all. And I can only do it like six or seven times before people say, Ohh, for the love of God, enough for this stuff. He could be right. Was Jesus white I think Jesus certainly would have been seemitic if you look at what people look like, I guess technically they were caaucasoids in the Middle East. I would imagine? I don't know. eight hundred eight four eight. I need that code, mrter Lee. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two, eight hundred eight four eight nine two, two two. And it's a very difficult thing sometimes for a lot of us to try to Yes You know, let me stop for a second. Isn't it fascinating how so many people have such a difficult time putting together at least a working definition of the thesis of what they say You know, there was there was a guy years ago Malcolm X did this wonderful thing where he would say, and the so called black man or the so called negro, and he meant it Not that they weren't black but it was more as like italics. they were only called black visa v white or whatever it was. Wway, it took off. So people were saying so called everything. And the so called police Well, they are the police. Okay. And the so called mayor, well, he is a mayor. It just became this word salad, this hamburger helper, just like literally is used by everyone. Let let's go to Carl New Jersey cololonel, you're on another side of N Iw lineam. Yeah, from time to time, I hear people talking about hypersonic missiles. and Ukraine has claimed that they have been attacked by hypersonic missiles But I don't I don't know where I really don't see more than that as any proof of their existence How much have you ever study this Oh, I just I just look looked I just Googled it to tell you the truth. Have you heard about Russia's a Rushnik intermediate range ballistic missile? It's a hypersonic. It can go mock ten that's what they say No no, that's what it is Has it you see this. H Has it been used Yes. Okay. with' been a I've only seen it been used. They say a government Ukraine and a building was shot by one and an apartment building was shot by one Okay, again, I'm sorry you're saying with the Arereshnik strikes, there have been strikes against the infrastructure in Western Ukraine in Lviv, Denipro, Then there's the Kinjai missiles This is Russia also has routinely fired the KH forty seven M two, an air launched hypersonic ballistic missile to target Ukrainian command and control So you don't believe this Well, I hear about it, but you know, it' stop for a second, stop for a second, stop for a second Do you believe the Nicks won the title? Where I hear about it? Well, do you believe it happened? I't say it did Do you think that John Kennedy was assassinated? Well I hear he was. So your point is what, sir? I'm just curious. Do you think they exist They may exist. So do you think that when they are reported as not only existing, but doing significant damage, you don't believe that That may have happened, may not have happened All right, a couple of buildings in Ukraine. Why bother with hypersonic missiles to do? Okay, thank you, Carl. Have a nice day. Can you imagine a news show with Carl? Well, they say there's this treatment of cancer I don't know. They say there's cancer. I mean, why? God I don't know why half of this st up. Why wouldn't anybody in their right mind pick Zelensky to run the show when his claim to fame was playing the organ with his organ. Remember that one? Oh they say they did that? No, they I mean it was a parody. Isn't that fascinating We had the white supremacists before, couldn't tell us why. And this gentleman says, Well, they say it' hypersonic. No, it's fair. Well, I don't know. Why would you use it I don't know. why would you use any missile? Anyho. let's go to Gabe in Memphis, Gabe. You're on another side of Midnight with Lyionel Hello whyel es. I wanted to pass this by you. What do you think about the premise that it's possible that these beings are actually tapping into our brains and causing us to see This is another sideide of Midnight with Lionel. Now to the Berard McGurk stududios hereers Lionel A yes, the great Mano de Bango, ladies and gentlemen, So Marosa By the way in Spanish, Mosso means booger. So be careful how you say that. eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. Let's go to Mike in a place called South Carolina Mike. You're on another side of midnight with Lyionel topop of the morning line. How are you Mike? tell I was telling the screener, I'm listening thirty five years at WABC. and you I I have to I have to text my good sister, Carol. She's outside of Sarasota, Florida. L bless your h I'm in Long Island now where I grew up. So I'm going to pay my respects to Dad later on at the cemetery and meet them transit Longleast Squadwalk. So you got the Mojo line on the radio What can I say? You got thejo? What does that mean? What does that mean? Mojo? Mojo? No my sentence? What does your sentence mean? What are you trying to convey and connote Mojo means that you're on the upswing. You you got you like music. you still play the guitar, you play percussion. So open mic nights, you know, I make that you know, wood grain congo. All I need is water, It'sall drum. I make Ala I make it come. Oh that Tabla. H you seen that fair? H you seen that fellow Hussein? What's his name? Az? Oh my God He is the He is the premier tabball player. I've never heard anything like this in my life ways used to anyway. I'm sorry, didn' me to. M, that's okay. I haven't sated behind a set of drums in four decades, but I've had this thing. you know, H name is Zakir. His name is Zakir Hussein. He's an Indian Tabla player. He is a monster I gota check him out. Yeah. Oh my God.'ve never I've never heard anything like this ever. pooor guy, I think he died in twenty twenty four. blless his heart, but he was incredible. Anyway, talk to me, sir No that's right. When I go back down to South Carolina, probably Tuesday U I'm going, you know, blend into an open night night and guys that to play good playing guitars and you know I love Chicago. like you said. Ive seen all myons of brands. So play little, you know, Carlo Santana or Yako Mova. boom You know, So I be may I give you and by the way, thank you for calling. May I give you a couple of things too. Listen to, if you like Santana, listen to Moonflower. This is the live album You will hear Santana play in a way you've never played before. Listen to Dance, Sister Dance. Listen to his solo. He goes into waa. He hits every technique you can imagine. Dan sister Dawn go within. Oh my God.s he's. Remember he was David Dip Carlos Santana for a while And as far as Chicago goes, listen to songs like What's this world coming to U Hollywood, um, u I've never been in love before