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California Primary Ballot and Voting

From Hope & JunkiesJun 2, 2026

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It's interesting how this mayoral race has caught so many people's attention clear across the country, not just in Los Angeles. And uh what that might mean. We got the perfect guy to talk to. We just got this text. Good morning, guys. Thank you so much for having Lan He Chen on your show. They are my favorite interviews you guys do. I learn something new every single time. Thank you. Eric in Texas. Oh, wow, Lon He under a little pressure to deliver. Lon He Chens, the David and Diane Steffi Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution and the Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University. Does that say anything about the progressive movement in the country? Is that like a real blow, I'm hoping, to the wackadoo fringe of the Democratic Party? Um I I I think it's a message. I mean I think we have to be careful not to not to draw conclusions that are too broad. I mean one of the things certainly in the city of LA uh there there is I think a backlash to what the progressive politics have done to uh to our major cities. And I think we we saw it in San Francisco, by the way, a couple years ago, guys, when you know San Francisco elected a relatively more moderate mayor going against several very progressive candidates. And that more moderate mayor by a lot of accounts has produced positive change in San Francisco. I think in LA it's a similar dynamic. Karen Bass has been a complete failure. Uh she started as a far left progressive candid ate. She's tried to move more toward the middle as her electoral fortunes have declined. And there is this far left candidate, uh uh Nithya Rahman, who uh really just has not, I think, picked up and captivated the kind of interest that you would expect in a city like LA. So I I do think it'll be interesting to see what happens. I mean obviously if she makes the runoff, if Bass makes a runoff against the progressive candidate, that's one thing, but that doesn't look to be the outcome we're we're gonna see. It looks like it's gonna be Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt. And and I think it's gonna be a fascinating general election if that ends up happening. No kidding. Pratt has been really good. Pratt has been really good at at engaging in what I would call kind of asymmetric campaign tactics, right? He's not like he's better funded. It's not like he's got more name recognition, but he's managed to really make this a super interesting race. Well Jack made the point. I don't want to steal your thunder because it was excellent what you said, but it's uh with all due respect to the the brilliance of some of that AI generated stuff that Pratt and his fans have have come up with. His message is just on. There is decay in the cities. It's become miserable for the taxpaying law abiding people. The excuses that are being given are illegitimate and we want change . Yeah. And what really animated that of course were the fires back in in Palisades and in other parts of LA, the devastating fires in early twenty twenty five. And and that was what started this groundswell of, you know, things are not right. You had Karen Bass off on an international trip being wined and dying while her city was burning. And it created a a a level of anger at the status quo that I think has continued to this day. And you add to that, you know, not just the failed response to the fires, but the ongoing homeless problem, the continuing issues around uh uh crime and public safety being a problem in the city of Los Angeles, all of those things combined have created an energy for change. And I think that's absolutely what we're seeing. And that's spot on. The reason why Spencer Pratt is gaining uh momentum and is part of a discussion is because people want change. It's a very simple message. Do you want more of the same or do you want something fundamentally different and that's what press stands for. It is interesting though those ads uh how much attention they get and they're whatever you guys in the political running for office world call uh earned media and unearned media and all that sort of stuff. But if you can come up , get somebody, because there's nothing stopping me from making a creative ad in the next half hour that looks like you know Hollywood spent a million dollars on it now in the modern world with AI. How much has that changed the landscape of running for office? Oh, it's it's such a great question. I mean it has fundamentally altered the landscape. We have we have seen so many changes in how campaigns are waged over the last I mean, I remember guys when Twitter was new, right? And this that sort of totally changed the way that campaigns had to respond to things because the news cycle went from you know twenty-four hours to eight hours to eight minutes. And now you layer on top of that the additional social platforms, whether it's Instagram, TikTok, et cetera, and and then now AI and the ability to generate videos and content pictures, , uh, you know, everything. And the visual medium, the being able to do these videos, I mean, that is really the next step forward. So campaigns have changed a lot. And those of us who, you know, sort of learned how to wage campaigns and be in that venue in the two thousands and two thousand tens, it it's a totally different ballgame now. I mean, I feel like uh as the kids would say, an unk because I'm I'm I'm totally, you know, out of it in a lot of ways because there's so much technology and it's moving so fast. An unk. Yeah. Don't want to be an unk nown. I like to know when I'm being insulted, so I'm gonna find We're talking to Lon Hee Chen of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. Lon He, next to your towering intellect, I Joe Getium like a golden retriever. But I would like nonetheless, partly because we're gonna go big on this at the bottom of the hour, to attempt to w recruit you to not using the term homeless or homelessness because they are these people are drug addicts. They are not homeless because they're drug addicts. Or I'm sorry, they're not drug addicts because they're homeless. They're homeless because they're drug addicts. The animating uh detail of their lives is their drug addiction, not their lack of a fixed address. Um and again, we're gonna go big at the bottom of the hour. I just I think we we need to call problems what they are and I think the homeless is uh the very term is a tool of the lesson. Yeah, yeah. And we'll be hammering that. Well I I uh you know I think it's a it's a really good point, which is that we have to understand what's causing the problems we're seeing on the streets. Right. And and I do think that there has been a failure to address head-on some of the the challenges, whether it's drug addiction, whether it's the need for mental health uh access, whether it's you know, I mean that there's all sorts of different reasons. But I think that we do w we have, I think this is not just the case with the homeless issue. I think it with a lot of issues, what we're failing to do as a society is to deal with the with the root causes of some of these challenges. And uh and people like to paper it over. That's definitely definitely the case. And I think this is one of those issues where we're seeing a lot of papering over. I think you guys are are making a really good fault, then you can uh raise money for it and say we need to have a program and gazillions of dollars and hand it out to people and it only makes the problem worse to your cronies. Something that drives me nuts. I mean, how many of these nonprofits I was speaking to someone the other day who's doing a lot of research and work on different nonprofits, quote nonprofits in California, that have really become nothing more than shell organizations for activating progressive left. And and and look, I I have no problem the peop people should vote. That's a great thing. But when you get into political activism and actively uh lobbying for some of these causes, that's when it becomes a problem. And and I think by the way, the the US Department of Justice should look into these nonprofit groups that are abusing their nonprofit tax status because that creates a big, big problem in so many parts of our state and our country. Jack, do you have more on California? I was going to go national. So Lon He uh any thoughts on the Republican brand at this point and to the ext and to what extent is it still you know uh uh synonymous with the Trump brand? What's happening with the Republican Party? Well it it is, I think, synonymous for a lot of people. And I one of the things that's really struck me is the continuing strength of the president's brand in Republican circles. I mean I just want to talk about specific ally within the Republican Party how uh powerful his brand remains because if you look at what happened with Tom Massey in Kentucky, you look at what happened in the Indiana with the Indiana legislators who voted to re to to not redistrict to go against the president now. Many of them have been ousted. You look at Bill Cassidy in Louisiana, the senator down there. And there's there's there's other examples as well, but what has struck me is the enduring presence of the president in uh in how Republicans think about their politics. And then by translation, that also means, yes, I think because he's got such a big influence within the Republican Party, more broadly , the president's brand and and and the Trump brand is still very much seen as synonymous with with the Republican Party. How long that goes, what that looks like, I'm I'm I I can't predict that. My only quibble is that uh I think you're saying the Republican Party uh it's the primary voter, the core of the core. And I just wonder to what extent they actually reflect uh r Republicans en masse and and perhaps swobbly independents who might lean Republican. You know, I think it's good it's it's a good question because the makeup of the of the Republican voter base has changed a lot over the last couple of years, right? I mean it is predominantly a a more working class party now, and that wasn't the case, you know, four or five years ago. So people that vote Republican now, they probably wouldn't have voted Republican five or ten years ago. And then you've got a lot of people who would have voted Republican ten years ago who now, you know, can't do it anymore. So it it is interesting. The party's undergone transition and as a result, we have to we have to look at that voter base Um I don't remember if we've ever done predictions with you before. Are you the kind of guy that doesn't make predictions? I mean I I I I I make predictions with a caveat that I'm wongr a lot. Do you think the two Republicans make the final two in the California ? Um yeah, I think the I think the numbers are still there for Steve Hilton to make it through in the governor's race to the top two. It's gonna be really close because you know the Republican split between Sheriff Chad Bianco and and Steve Hilton I think I think will ultimately hurt hurt Steve Hilton. So hopefully there's some consolidation there and and he's able to get through to the top two. I do think Spencer Pratt makes it through in that way. Yeah. Uh I think I think there's just so much energy there. So I'm I'm hopeful with both. Boy that'll be a fun race to watch if he makes the top two too. Vote early, vote often, folks. You too, Lon He. You're good for three or four votes, I'm sure. Uh Lon Hee Chan, David and Diane, Steffi, fellow American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution, Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University. Always enlightening. Thanks, Lon He . Scam text sketchy email spam call you get starts the same way. Somebody found you on a data broker site, and now they're using AI to mimic your kids' voices and call you and say, hey, I'm getting arrested . I'm in trouble. Uh help dad. It's so insidious, but incogni can help. So you got the spam filters that call blockers. They don't do the trick. The real fix is to disappear, and that's when incogni does. They contact your spam calls, emails, and texts. Yeah. Incognize a trusted website you can use to put data brokers on notice. 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I missed the era of my life when I was a a rabid baseball fan and B had time to watch and listen to more baseball. They were trying a chili egg roll on the air . Whatever that is. Oh yeah, the great baseball announcers. I I feel warmth for them like they're old friends. Couple of things for you. There was a Babylon B headline. I the Jill Biden is still making the rounds and doing the interviews. I can't believe I was reading the Wall Street Journal Review because they did an interview with her. They took the whole she thought he was having a stroke thing seriously. Obvious lie. But anyway, Babylon B with this headline, Joe Biden explains she thought Joe Biden had a stroke during the debate, which is why she left him up there to die. Wow. Oh, and you know that reminds me, I'd read uh in , I think it was the The Free Beacon. Um, elsewhere in the book, Jill describes being worried that Sleepy Joe had accidentally, quote, drugged himself with sleeping pills or cough syrup. That she presents this as a plausible scenario does little to dispel concerns that the president's brain was not functioning and she knew it all along. Up in an hour two, if you want to get the podcast and check that out, is quite the scene. I mean, I mean, quite the work scene. You just you have a star employee just laying into the new boss, and the boss eventually saying, uh, you're not gonna intimidate me and gets up and walks out. And then everybody cheers. So you got quite the dynamic there. Anyway, I left this out . This is from uh Eric Eric Erickson, uh fellow radio person. Um Scott Pelle being a insufferable uh P word, he says. But anyway, sixty minutes boss Nick Bilton Scott Pelley says to him , I find it I'm gonna try to do it like Scott Pelley. I can't do it that slow though. We don't have all day. I find it odd that you would take this job knowing that you would never be welcomed here. What a douchebag thing to say. You're fired . I think you you said you give it forty eight hours cooldown order. Maybe, maybe I don't know how valuable they think Pelly is to the whole project the But that guy pulls that whole I'm the boss here routine out. Get the hell out of here . Speaking of being a baseball fan, the beloved formerly San Francisco Giants started winning when they kicked Barry Bonds out. Not that they didn't win with him, but Scott Pelly's Barry Bonds. He really is . And he's about a swole asm, too. He is. Well, he'll have plenty of time to tan and work out soon. As I mentioned to Lan Hee Chen, uh coming up , the agreement, the spreading agreement, that it's drugs, not quote unquote homelessness from some surprising sources. Wherever you live, you need to listen to this and start spreading the word Armstrong and Getty . Well they're not homeless. They're drug addicts. Most of these people are addicted to fentanyl and meh . So Spencer Pratt there , who we've been discussing uh specifically in the context of uh junkies uh ruining the cities of the West Coast and other cities around America. And um a couple of things. Number one, he pointed out to Bill Maher the other day that sixty percent of the junkies on the streets in California came from elsewhere. I think he was talking about San Francisco. I was uh LA specifically. Uh that's something we've been talking about for years and years. And uh Amy Rikert, who's a commentator based out of San Diego , it's pointing out that uh body brokers, they're called, literally recruit drug addicts from other states, buy them a plane ticket to California, then get paid for delivering them to rehab centers and sober living homes. There have been several prosecutions for this. But after the junkies get kicked out of drug treatment because they're not really serious about it anyway, um, and plus, you know, it's it's hard to kick drugs, and they're no longer profitable, they're stuck in California, they go straight to the skid rows of the very cities where the quote unquote homeless nonprofits can monetize them. I was surprised that Bill Maher was surprised that a lot of the drug addicts living in your town or state or from somewhere else. I mean, 'cause he's pretty, you know uh unhappy with the current state of California, even as a lifelong Democrat. And I I just would think he'd be aware of that. Like I live in a town that's got more drug addicts than the town next to it. 'Cause the town next to it doesn't put up with it. I mean it's just they they make these decisions. Yeah, yeah. And you know, there's a reason all the junkies call Seattle Friattle and why they've got such an enormous junkie problem. It's because they make it so uh comfortable to be a junkie there. It's the enabling on steroids. Anyway, I wanted to get to a couple of pieces of fairly long He's a Hollywood uh entertainment type. Uh he made a video around his house. He'd have to be very wealthy then. Uh yeah. Oh speaking of wealth, I meant to say that um oh yeah, judging by his pad there in his neighborhood. Yeah. Um this this segment, if enough people heard it, could cost many, many millions of dollars to the homeless industrial complex complex. Please don't murder us. We're nice fellows, and our kids seem fond of us. So uh uh because the amount of money being handed out is in the tens of billions of dollars at this point. And that's just in, you know, the great state of Cal Unicornia. Anyway, so this is Doug Ellen with a video uh he just made and put out. LA times gas lighters. It's weird. One of 15 cameras that I now have at this house. Two German Shepherds, three legal guns. Five years ago didn't lock a door here. But you know what happened? Two animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not ra cist because they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white. I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't rabbis. I know they were animals because they invaded my house. I know I don't care what their excuses are like a lot of you f<unk>ing care. I know invaders of homes should get 20 years, but I'm not paranoid, so I don't believe your bullshit about the stats and the crime because everyone in my neighborhood has got the same problem. They're fing all putting cameras and hiring security guards because we're all getting broken into . It's not made up, it's not false, and this city has collapsed in the last five years. There is no f denying it unless you have an agenda and I don't know what that is. But you say, oh, Spencer Pratt has no experience, so how can we possibly think about this? What experience did Karen Bass have for Rick Caruso, who we know can build things, who we know can fix problems, when you made sure he couldn't win? So right now you've putting people in the same position that you did with Trump who I did not vote for by the way. You put him in by making sure we had no f<unk>ing options, okay? And that's where we are in LA and we wanna fix this place because when we we don't want to be forced out. I'm one of the people who made this city look great. I did it for years. I glorified it. I meet people all the time that moved here because the show that I f created and they hated here now. Hate. That is a convert to sanity. Yeah, it's uh too bad it takes somebody at that level to start to feel pain before you can uh, you know, get attention. You'd think every single one of us going to the store like I did last night and waiting for some one to come unlock your shampoo would be enough. Right. Yeah. And then the second piece of audio I'm going to play for you is a uh it's a teaser essentially from Michael Schellenberger's new documentary with I can't remember his co-documentary uh documentarian, but the entire theme of it is what we've been trying to hammer for years. The quote unquote homeless problem is a drug problem. I think 80% is an underestimate of what percentage of people in the junkie camps are there because they're junkies. The what I referred to for lack of a better term, as the righteous homeless, the folks of you know not great intellect or had the devastating medical bill or or whatever, and they just they can't afford housing and they've ended up on the street. You you almost never see them. They don't commit crimes, and I would be delighted to have well administered fraud free programs for people like that. But at least eighty percent of the people that the just gigantic piles of money are flowing toward it's actually to the NGOs. The the bums and junkies only get a tiny percentage of it. It's the the rip-off artists that get the money. But the vast majority of those people are drug addicts. Plain and simple. Here is uh a sample of uh Michael Schellenberger's new piece. Oh, you should know they talk to a woman a fair amount. She is visibly pregnant, which ups the ante of horror . The rest of the people are tattooed faced, living in tents. Uh, you know, just uh well, they're junki es . Broad daylight, I saw someone get raped. I was raped, bullied, picked up You mean like someone robbed me with a machete today of all my stuff? Hitting the head with curl bars and bats. I saw dude get shot in the back of the head. Somebody getting shot. Do they live? No. You will end up getting hurt out here. Yeah, other homeless people are like your worst enemy. Homeless people do not play out here. Besides I have weapons. I have I have my protections. Okay. What kind of we apons? Baths, hatchets, nice maze, tasers. And what's your drug of choice, brother? Uh heroin. Um crystal bath. Meth and heroin. Crystal bath. Meth? Yeah. I don't know anybody that doesn't smoke. I don't know anybody that doesn't smoke math no. We saw a woman who was pregnant just now. What is she smoking? She's smoking fennel? And she's eight months pregnant? So are you seeing more people showing up in psychotic states naked now than say yes two three years ago. Yes I think so. I don't know what they're putting this stuff. I don't know if it was aliens. I'm not trying to sound crazy just like must be um causing all these like psychological breakdowns and I think that they had put like a transmitter or something because I was able to hear and communicate and it looked like I was talking to myself. My job was to intake homeless individuals on the street. I don't have to be in the streets . I just choose to be. You just choose to be? A lot of people are out here because they want to be out here. Everyone. I mean everyone's usually has a serious drive out. They kinda just kinda quit society. This right now is it's literally by choice. Did you get a sense of having care whether they're on personal? No, defin that and I'm not trying to be like crazy with it, but definitely not. I mean if we're gonna be realistic, they pay you to be homeless here. They make it so easy and normalize it. Drug dealers are just being let go over and over and over. It's like the cops are it's like they're your neighbor, you know. They enable them because they allow the open air drug market. Open street deal I think they've given up on the people that are out there on the street. I've never seen anything like it. I've been in a game in 30 years, dude. Never The game being being a street drug addict and uh one of the main points of it and it was kind of hard to hear because everything's gotta have loud, stupid music over it, is that uh some of the counselors and medical people they talk to are saying the the super math is that's what Spencer Pratt calls it, is absolutely destroying people's minds. He's seeing way more psychosis. And we're enabling that. We're letting people do drugs as long as possible with no repercussions so they can ruin their mind, but good, so they can never function in society to keep the money flowing . Any scromiting? Didn't see any scromiting. Boy, that eight month pregnant chick smoking fentanyl. Uh saying, Yeah, well uh this is by choice. I want to be out here. That's rough. Yeah, it is. But let's keep helping her do it. No repercussions. Last thing we want to do is any repercussions for breaking the law. Cops just watch. They watch the open air drug market . when you scream and vomit at the same time . Which I've never done, I don't think . The mess. What's the worst Yeah, absolutely. It's uh like many acts done by human beings, it's best enjoyed, you know, solo . Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're seeing more and more of that uh in the hospitals too. D do you think the message we've been trying to uh uh you know get across is starting to catch on. I I I d I don't get it. I mean I would think you live in a lot of cities where you drive to work or d take your kids to school or you're running errands on the weekend, you see these people all over the place. And the homeless industrial complex and their friends in the government have convinced you that yeah, poor, unfortunate people . And I've can't afford the eater. I've known a few people like that about they go to the store and see see stuff locked up. I had a friend like this, very nice person. But when she would see stuff locked up at the store, her reaction would be, man, and it's the stuff they need the most that they lock up. That was her reaction. Wow. Supposed to they're just shoveling into the trash bags and then selling it. Yeah. Cali Unicorn, where realism goes to die. There's scumbag thieves already. There's scumbag thieves. There's a certain percentage of the population that will steal from you rather than work. It's always been true. It'll always be true, and unless you have systems in place to keep them from doing that it will happen. You made it so easy to be a criminal, now there's crime everywhere. And he said five years ago I didn't even lock my doors. Right. Now he's got eleven cameras, two dogs, multiple guns, and all of his neighbors are doing the same. Just yeah, keep blaming it on housing prices . Chase Louise. Let's do a funny Greg Gutfeld joke among other things when we come back. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty . There are reports that the next James Bond will be a woman. Yeah, instead of a license to kill, she'll have a license to blame you for whatever happened to her in her dreams. Got a text from somebody who voted in California . I voted in person this morning was ballot number one. I was line leader in kindergarten, so it's no surprise . Anyway, this person, this is in California. In line before they opened, everyone, in all caps, was talking about how much they hate the people in charge in California right now and are hoping there is change. Really passionate discussions going on. All ages, black guy, Mexican dude and his wife, lady who moved from Chicago and said California is worse than Shy Town. It was very interesting, eavesdropping. Wow. Hard to say if that uh is just representative of that area or not. So I'm looking at an actual paper ballot in California. I'm gonna vote in person today. I don't know. I haven't voted in person in forever, but I'm just gonna show up and I from what everything I understand, they'll let me vote. Somebody said they tried they tried to show the driver's license. They're like, you don't need that. Uh which is hilarious. Um there are sixty people on the ballot for governor in California.

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