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President Zelensky of Ukraine including taunts in his request to meet with Vladimir Putin, hoping that I guess that that would get under his skin and make him want to meet face to face, but he wants a face-to-face meeting. We got more on the whole Ukraine-Russia war a little bit later this hour. Plus Hitler loving main lobsterman. I guess he's not a lobsterman. He's an Oysterman, allegedly. He's a trust fund brat, rude to women, etc. Graham Platner is now done. This isn't official announcement. An official announcement But anyway, uh he's been ahead solidly of Susan Collins, the very moderate Republican woman, um who's the senator. And so Democrats, I mean, if he was the Hitler's grandson and had vowed in his diaries to carry out the old man's work, they'd stick with him if he was gonna win. But there's a new poll out that shows Collins have has pulled into a tie with him. And so if that tide truly is turned, they will abandon him like you know last week's leftovers. Well that argument Democrats have been making some Democrats about it. We've got to stop the tide of MAGA craziness and everything like that. By eliminating Susan Collins, one of only seven senators in U.S. history to vote or remove a president of their own party. Right, right. A moderate woman. Yes, yes. That's how dedicated they are to women's rights anyway. They'd rather have a guy who's tough on women or mean to women or whatever. Anyway, enough of that. I wanted to move to this story. It's Mike Tobin, uh you remember the fra cas in the church in Minneapolis that's starting to during the the the craziness of the immigration raids? With Don Lemon? Don Lemon did feature the bitter, bitter taste of Don Lemon is lingering around this story. We get'll to that in a moment. This is the thing. The city of St. Paul, Minnesota will not charge the anti-ICE protesters who stormed a church last January. It happened at the peak of Operation Metro surge, the enhanced immigration enforcement in Minneapolis. Demonstrators learned that a pastor with the city's church was affiliated with ICE. All these pretend Christians, all these comfortable white people who are living lavish, comfortable lives while children are dragged into concentration camp. The protests halting Sunday services. The safety and the peace and the joy that we were feeling in the church in our worship of Jesus Christ, going out and seeing people who are like spewing hatred towards us. It made me feel sad for them . The fact that you can use comfortable white people as a pejorative as it so often is is disgusting. Well it's the voice of revolutionaries. Yeah. So I could make a legal argument that the charges that ought to be brought are federal civil rights charges. But the city not bringing any charges, listen to the reasoning in this next chunk of the report. But the city attorney says protesters didn't break any property, and there's not enough evidence for a conviction . Irene Cal writes the right to peacefully protest is protected, as is the right to one's religious beliefs. Reverend Jonathan Parnell responding. According to the city attorney's logic, it is perfectly fine for agitators to invade a mob And Parnell question Minnesota leadership. Do you only care about those you agree with? Yeah, Reverend Parnell, first of all, two excellent points there. The idea that we can with impunity get a mob together and interrupt a church service of whatever faith and and and uh frighten the people into leaving and make it impossible to conduct that service and civic leaders just look on and say well yeah they didn't break anything that's disgusting. Yeah, and obviously you open the door to that. You could you can always come up with something to protest. I don't like the new raising the price of stamps. So we're gonna bust into the mosque and interrupt their praying. Right, right. Uh Don Lemon st ill uh does face federal charges for uh interfering with these people. Oh my god, yeah, yeah. Yeah,ate whver the highest level is, he's guilty of it. Um a completely different topic, although it's there's a common thread that runs through it. We haven't really talked about the case of Henry Nowak in Britain. Um it,'s getting a lot of attention in the blogosphere and online and that sort of thing. Elon's huge on it. Yeah, Elon Musk is huge on it. He tweeted the other day uh that the New York Times has had zero stories on Henry Nowak, while they've had sixty-four hundred on George Floyd. Whoa, sixty-four hundred different George Floyd stories. Correct. Just and and both stories are about a death in police custody . And indeed there is no evidence, there's never been any evidence that George Floyd's death, unfortunate as it was, and mostly I believe caused by his drug abuse, uh had anything to do with race whatsoever. There's never been any evidence of that. Henry Nowak , white young man, 18 years old, attacked and stabbed by a couple of Sikh youngsters or, young adults actually, they're all over uh twenty-one, um two of them, uh in Britain. Uh and uh one of the guys took out a ceremonial knife and stabbed him right through the chest. The cops get there. the The the body cam footage is very hard to watch. Henry is saying, I've been stabbed, and the cop says, I don't think you have, mate. And Henry says, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. You remember that phrase? The New York Times probably wrote three thousand and eight hundred articles about that phrase, zero about Henry Nowak, and the cops said, Yeah, you're fine. Shut up. And immediately assumed because the minority fellows had called the cops and said, hey, we just got attacked by a white guy. And so they showed up. They believed it. They didn't do any investigation of who was the victim and who was the perpetrator. And just let this guy bleed out while handcuffed. They handcuffed him as he was saying, I've been stabbed. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. That's rough. And let him sit there and bleed out. Then immediately said, okay, to the other guys, you got injuries? What what did he do to you? What happened here? Well not to mention that as a as a cop you're supposed to help the person even if they were even if they're horrible people. Even if they they instigated it or whatever. You're not supposed to let 'em die on the street. You might be a person of good sh conscience, and you're you're s thinking now as we speak, well, okay, so there is kind of an ethnic racial component to this, but maybe it was just one bad stupid cop wasn't very good at assessing the situation, and it's incredibly unfortunate. Um , but you have to understand uh and and I don't like uh you know playing the victim card unnecessarily as a conservative or a white person or whatever. I think it's pathetic. Um but you have to understand the atmosphere in Britain there's already widespread huge demonstrations going on against their two tiered policing system. Where and most of this is uh has to do with Muslims, and Sikhs are not Muslims, I'm aware of that. Um but uh the the most infamous case was a fellow said he was gonna burn a Quran and started to, and he was stabbed by an offended Muslim, and the burning got a more stiff penalty than the stabb And there is a terrified, woke, self-hat ing , two-tiered policing going on in Britain. You may recall the absolutely horrific it this should be one of the most famous stories in the world over the last twenty years, where the British police, the authorities, uh state, local, and federal, or whatever they call them there, uh covered up the Pakistani rape gangs who were grooming and raping young white girls because they really didn't want to anger the Muslim community or look like racists. And so they let young girls get victimized over and over and over again out of gosh, what used to be called political correctness. I guess it's absolutely nightmarish. So that's the ground that the seed of the Henry Nowak uh killing was planted in, and the cop's ut'ter dis regard for poor Mr. Nowak, who is entirely a victim . British law and all of the evidence now in the body cam footage is out. That's why this is so hot now again. But it's it's it's horrible. And you know, some right wingy folks who I don't like their methods or what they, you know, say So if you hear the name Henry Nowak, that's what's going on with him . Speaking of right wing people, uh I want to hear what you know about Candace in Russia. Candace Owens is in Russia. I hadn't caught that. I don't follow her much. Yeah, she's in Russia to uh uh uh kiss up to Putin and appear at a conference praising Russia and denigrating the United States. Russian security forces are gonna be there. It's uh it's something . Disgusting. Yeah, she and Tucker are traitors to the United States. You get to because we have free speech, but you know, I also get to call them traitors. You would hope that you can't become a gazillionaire being a traitor to your own country, though. Yeah, you can these days. Apparently. Um uh do want to talk about the whole uh war with Ukraine thing , speaking of Russia, but also jobs numbers out, kinda interesting. What does this mean? 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Unfortunately, so do the wasps. I need the nest gone, a deep clean, and someone to take my dog to his overpriced haircut . Our local taskers are on it. Go to air tasker.com or download the app, post your tasks, and get back to being the host everyone's buzzing about. Air tasker. Get anything done. You know that pile of clothes you've been meaning to deal with? Yeah, same. That's why I love trashy . It's the easiest way to clean out your closet, send your clothes somewhere better, and actually get rewarded for it. No more letting things sit around or wondering what to do with them. You just fill up a takeback bag with clothes you don't wear anymore, send it in, and trashy takes care of the rest, keeping it out of landfills and giving it a second life. It's such a simple way to feel good about clearing space and doing something better for the planet. And here's the best part. You earn cash rewards back for every bag you send, which makes it even easier to stay consistent. 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On the other hand, I've watched a lot of interviews with the guy, and he seems very, very sincere that he's worried that AI is gonna destroy the world and hey, we somebody ought to do something about this. Anyway, he's he's out again. Anthropic urges global pause in AI development, flags self-improvement risk , he says that AI models are nearing the capability to start improving on their own with human intervention, and what they do when they start programming themselves is anybody's guess. Unless we try to put some guidelines in place, which is an open question on its own, whether that's even possible. So he's calling for a pause in AI development. You want a pause when you're in the lead . So that would be like you're the who who's currently the Detroit Tigers, I think is the best team in baseball. They'd say, I think we should pause the uh the major league baseball season and uh crown a winner now. I just think it'd be good for the fans, it'd be good for the game. I too am torn between uh the more cynical view of Mr. Emoti and and uh and taking him at his word. Uh I just want to ask, do I even have to say it out loud? Dario, what about China? Right. You can account for it. He said written by several heavyweights in the industry, but yeah, go ahead. He wants a global pause, which would include China. Shut up. Yeah, I want I want world peace, Dario . Seriously. I sincerely want world peace. What about China? North Korea. Russia. So your belief is you could not uh make China go along with a pause or Yeah, I believe that because it's so obvious I could explain it to a dog. But apparently not Dario Amoti. Uh no offense, Dario. Uh you're a fine fellow and very clever. But seriously, dude. We believe . We believe it would be good for the world to have the option to slow or temporarily pause frontier AI. Well, we're currently in the lead. I slipped that part in. AI development to enable societal structures and alignment research to keep up with the advance of the technology . Now that we're in first place. You added that again. I caught you. Yeah . It proposes a global agreement? Oh, seriously, are you children? Recursive self-improvement is the fancy term that they use now for what they used to just refer to as AGI or ASI. That's when that can start just improving itself on its own. And then that will that that improved thing will improve itself. And it could, what Elon always talks about, it could start just like exponentially start improving itself to where what you have by eight o'clock tonight is significantly different than what you had this morning. I mean it could just ex exponentially explode like that and that boggles the mind. It does bog it does boggle the mind. And and a lot of these guys think we're gonna reach that day one of these days and the AI from Friday morning is not gonna be the AI that is doing all kinds of things to the world by Monday afternoon. Mm-hmm. Which it does bog gle the mind. And I don't want to be just knee-jerk cynical because uh Dario and his crew have, like from the beginning of uh their company, Anthropic, they've been talking about AI safety in a way that uh they've been real leaders in that. I just nobody ever answers the China question. Or in in short, the evildoers question Others have suggested to do the other side of it here, others have suggested that Anthropic's warnings about the dangerous potential of its own tools could be considered a marketing ploy. Such skeptics point to Anthropic's decision to limit release of the powerful mythos cybersecurity model capable of finding bugs and problems is a handy way to tout the capabilities of product. Our product is so powerful we can't release it to the public. It's that good. It reminds me of like those fifties uh horror movies and sci-fi movies. Do not view this movie if you have a heart condition or are prone to palpitations. This movie is too terrifying. I thought this was pretty good from this professor at uh Wharton's School of Business where Trump got his degree. That's where I got my degree. Oh wait, no I didn't. He said my resume. Yes I did, by God. He said anthropic is full of true believers all the way around. AI labs are a mix of things, said the uh the expert . Um there is a trillion dollar company, which is hard to wrap your head around on its own. There's a trillion dollar company with all the normal trillion dollar company stuff like marketing teams and lawyers. Then there's a core of researchers who are just building the next models. And then there's a set of people who are philosopher kings who are concerned about the future and what comes next and they're all in conflict with with each other at all times. Which of course is true. Yeah. I'm sure you have people in the the the philosopher king crowd, which is who I'd be hanging out with, who are in there in these companies thinking this is just a disaster. It's just a matter of when Nuclear weapon anti-proliferation efforts are child's play compared to software anti proliferation? Are you kidding me? Might even be impossible, regardless of any efforts. Might be. Yikes. Yik yikes is right. If you can use them, they're pretty worn out. Always the harvesting ordinance. It's always where you go. Yep. Armstrong and Getty . This July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party, hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a can't miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Experience music performances from major artists, patriotic tributes, and the kickoff to Giving Forth, helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history. It's more than just fireworks. 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Drink responsibly. Must be 21 . Gosterespair. They score ! Sis Jarvis ! Playing the critics! Thanks the crowd. You like to quiet the critics. Oh, I love it. Shut up, critics. My beloved Carolina Hurricanes. Gosh, I've been a fan for how many years now, one. Um uh equaling the C the Stanley Cup Finals had w uhon Hey Amaz on. Two day prime . Two day prime. It's taking me five days to get my Carolinas uh hurricanes t shirt, and I want to jump on the bandwagon now. If you get it after they win or lose, that'll take all the fun out of it. I know. I know. Speaking of sports, game two of the NBA finals tonight. Trump says he's gonna go to one of the home games when the Knicks get to town, because they start in San Antonio where they're playing tonight for game two, but uh that'll be quite the something. It'll be something if Trump goes to Madison Court Square Garden for one of the games. I was just going to say, speaking of the Kineker Bachers, the journal's got this story. It starts with this this guy who is a celebrity watch consultant for Jay-Z's Rock Nation. A celebrity watch consultant? Like watching celebrities or the wristwatch? Uh I believe the wristwatches. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh so that's some gig, but he's got access to all sorts of people and sources in in New York City and he knows a couple of like high level ticket brokers and stuff. And he's a big, big, big Nick's fan. Um, and he was looking into tickets, and uh the nosebleeds were running eight thousand dollars as of yesterday. The get-ins . To get in. Right, exactly. Just to say you were in the building, you're squinting, you see tiny figures running around on the court, you're mostly watching the jumbotron. That'll cost you eight thousand dollars. But the good seats, you're now competing against Wall Street Titans and hedge fund guys for whom money is no object. Right. Wall Street big law, real estate bigwigs, celebrities. And nobody knows how high these tickets are gonna go. But Jack, you brought us the news the other day the. The the on-the-floor seats might go for seven figures. You know, I had the worst seats you could have when the LA Lakers played the Sacramento Kings game seven of the Western Conference Finals many years ago. And it was after game six was fixed. Never forget. It was a game seven with the Lakers and Shaq and Kobe and everything like that. It was a big deal. And it was awesome. Even though they were the worst seats you could have in the internet. Being there, the energy, it was it was so freaking cool. Yeah. So there's an advantage to being there. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. And it's a warm memory, and you tell the story for the rest of your life. What does that worth? I don't know it's up to the individual. But uh I love this part. Getting close to the action at such live events confers status. We've been discussing this for I mean you're Tim Chalamet, you're sitting a row behind Tracy Morgan. It's humiliating. I'd put a bag over my head. Anyway. This uh this woman is the founder of a concierge agency. Um, and she says these tickets are like Taylor Swift madness for finance bros. I'm sure. But there's got to be, and nobody explains this, there's got to be some sort of mechanism to get celebrities in the front rows. Otherwise, if it were just who's got the most money. Wouldn't it be all hedge funds, man agers sitting in the front two rows, or wouldn't be a celebrity to be seen as opposed to to always John Stewart and Ben Stiller and Michael J. Fox and Timothy Chalamet and Tracy Morgan all in that row? Interesting ly enough, and this is what really intrigued me. So this woman's concierge age agency arranges travel and experiences for dozens of members, most of them pri in private equity, okay? With networks , Joe, slow down, with net worths ranging from tens of millions of dollars to billions of dollars. And it's the lower end of that spectrum that tends to shell out more because she says they have the most to prove they care about if they are seen. You got billions of dollars you don't care about anything. Right. Some of the guys with more money are thinking, you know, if I really cared, I'd I'd buy both teams and have them play in my backyard. But her her team has already booked Nick's tickets as expensive as a hundred and seventy six thousand dollars each so far. But there's some gaming in the system, which is fine. I'm not mad about it, but the I don't know why they don't admit that. Look, we'd have a bunch of hedge funds managers. That's not good for ratings. People want to see Chalamet and a Kardashian. That's what gets people excited. Fair enough. All right. Another consumer story about GLP ones and why they're overwhelming retailers. It's probably not with what you think. 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Uh check it out. Incogni.com slash armstr ong. So the GLP ones are causing all sorts of shakeups of uh funny you had mentioned that. Lizzo restaurants and grocery stores and all sorts of stuff. Lizzo's up on the Today Show right now singing. First time I'd seen Lizzo since her big weight loss. She's like half the size she used to be. Yeah. She's not big old Lizzo. She just kind of like So she's like two twenty now or what? 'Cause she was big. She is uh she looks f biggish on TV. She's pr she'd probably look very, very average in person. Mm. And she didn't look used to before, remember? No. No indeed. Her twerking haunts my dreams. But that whole thing, that controversy is is worth I can understand why people are mad about that. So when you were giant, you were the whole no, this is beautiful and blah blah blah blah blah acceptance. Then why did you spend so much money, surgeries, drugs, everything like that to get thin, and now you like fired all your super fat backup dancers, so you got people that are closer to your size. Come on, what's going on there? Yeah, yeah. She could say, Well, I wanted to save my life, but then what the hell were you doing preaching the other no, it's it's fantastic to be four hundred pounds. No it's not. It's not good on any level for you at all. And you should try really hard not to be. Getting back to the GLP one drugs and how they're shaking up food and restaurants and now it's retailers, uh specifically apparel companies, are fighting a flood of returns . And they quote this one uh budget suit retailer, flex suits. They've seen a fifty percent increase in returns in the past year. And they say when a customer orders the same suit in two or three sizes, it's the red flag . And he will actually reach out, check the measurements, and ask the client, look, are you losing weight or on one of those GLP1 drugs? If you are, wait till you're done, then order a suit. Because what people are doing is ordering you know, three of the things so they can wear the one for a while, then return it, then the other one for a while, then return it, then finally when they get skinny, uh get that one and return it. Hey, here's a hit. Don't return the other two, you're gonna need 'em . Well, unless you stay on the drug, right? Uh right. Indeed. Yeah. Which, you know, that's that's fine. Like I said the other day, people take blood pressure medicine for the rest of their lives. Why not the I don't want to be super obese drug for the rest of your life. We don't know the answer to that question, but uh so far it seems to be at least a a possibility for a lot of people. Um so yeah, so if there's like a ninety-day return policy or even if it was sixty-day return policy , you're gonna shed a lot of weight in 60 days on those drugs. So you get the the 36, the 34, and the 32. And the share of apparel exchanges where shoppers have sized down has risen each of the last three calendar years, hitting a high of about fifteen percent uh this year. Um so as these drugs get more and more commonplace, these retailers are I mean, they could track it. They could practically tell you how many people are taking these drugs based on their returns toward the skinny end. So just when for the first time really in the last couple of years, a lot of your retailers had started having like uh what store was it I was in the other day all of their mannequins half their mannequins were quite overweight with jeans on or sweatpants on or whatever to fit human beings, because mannequins have always been the super fit, like skinny. Well, now they're gonna have to get mannequins to reflect more people, I guess. Maybe you have to be make them adjustable, inflatable, or something like that, is the tr ends go up and down. Just as a a quick example of uh how big a pain this is, if you've got a billion dollar company that typically sees around twenty percent of its items uh returned, uh a five to ten percent inc rease in returns can slash gross margins by about twenty million dollars. Wow. It's it's a huge problem . Unless there ends up being some sort of long term effect that is horrific, we find out. Uh the era of people being giant might be over. It's possible, yeah. Yeah, it's a maintenance drug now. It's like blood pressure you mentioned, or cholesterol, or whatever. Yeah. Uh this is something at peak weight loss. Those taking these medications can drop a clothing size every month. Whoa . Yeah, yeah. Jeans, bras, and athleisure wear. Often the first items replaced, then come tops and dresses, as well as adjustments to rings, bracelets, and even shoes . Rings and fat feet. Yeah, rings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll have the you know, now or there for a while, you look at pictures from back in the day and everybody's so thin. I mean it's immediate. You look at a picture and you think, wow, everybody was thin back then. Then we got the we're all big period, and then maybe the pictures from here on out everybody'll be thin again. Wow. So the statistical bulge in the boa will be a bulge in in in us. Yeah, from like the eighties to the twenty enties , we were all giant. Yeah, yeah. Cool . Wow, this gal

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