Restoring Trust and Future Outlook

I'm Malcolm Nansen. If you're seeing this, you are on Black Man Spy . Day actually day one hundred and eighteen. We made an error on the substack. It is day one hundred and eighteen. I will correct that when the show is over . We are having the what we call the MOU Palusa where we're going to talk about the MOU and all the downstream bull that is emerging from it and how everyone is sort of claiming they're running it and ignoring it. Especially the Israelis, the Israelis carried out an attack this morning that they said no no, no,, no , we killed those six guys purely defensive . Okay , that's how they're going to do it. So with that, let me introduce you to the rest of the panel. Jacob Carzf, Doan ish intelligence officer extraordinaire and Wadja, the roaring gay lion hailing from Minneapolis , Minnesota . Well, glad to see you for those of you who are asking , why am I back in my MSNBC liberty livery, right? Why am I wearing suits and ties instead of hanging out and hello Germany , hanging out and just chill axing like everybody else and no, no, I'm not dressing up for you . You guys I'm dressing up because and I'm going to be jumping off at about twenty five after I have to go to a memorial ceremony. My good cousin , his wife passed away from congestive heart failure a few weeks ago and today is the memorial so I've driven down from Albany area and I am in Philadelphia , which you cannot tell because this is the one hotel that has nothing Philadelphia in the rooms. Not even pictures of like cheese steaks or something like that. It's very weird . You know, normally it's like liberty bell , independence hall, cheese steaks and I was actually at I was at epend Indence Hall yesterday. I was doing video in front of the Liberty Bell for National Security Leaders for America and none of the video reading of me reading major parts of the Declaration of Independence , none of it saved . So and then we had white out pour. I mean, I couldn't see going to the car. I was completely drenched. It drenched my umbrella and then I had to sit there until it was safe enough to drive. But you know, it's nice being in Philadelphia. It's nice being near independence hall. I'm born and raised in Philadelphia. I was born in the Philadelphia Naval Hospital, which is now part of the Ph illy Eagles training ground, I think, right ? I took down that mammoth old hospital . So I like coming back here, grabbing a cheese steak as off pretzel from the Wah and going to a family event. So bear with me . That being said, we're going to do a quick coffee cup check and then we're going to go right into the news. This I am in a hotel. I did not bring a coffee cup. What did you have? Rodge,atch W Watch has his orange m ug and your CIA uses a spy mug. I like that Analyst, Analyst, Analyst Spy . Yeah . Yeah, but that's that's weird because that's like directorate of operations , directorate of operations. No, directorate of analysis, directorate of analysis. Oh, directorate of operations. So I don't know. Anyway, I have a hotel mug, but this what's up, Watch ? I said all this to tell you that really don't want to lose my coffee so I have something very bright . And it mirrors your body shape. We know you're a big chuck bear . We know you're a bear . And I'm a big bear. So this is my mug, but this is my mug that I received from Luzanne, the Luzan conference that the Iranians gave to all the participants . And you know that it's a good one because it has a message in there this is because this is what happens you go when to the camel soup they sold JD Vance one hundred camels and this is what they got for it . A monk that says this is camel . Enjoy. Oh, I didn't write that part down there. Well, oh yeah, yoy, ladies and gentlemen, Waj, would you like to hit us with the price of oil first ? You got it . I do have it pulled out. My name's just asking seventy nine, right? This is cyrillic. It's actually gone down . . Down to what? It gets the sixty eight of me back to pre war. W TI is at seventy three . Brent Prude is at seventy seven . Marbon is at seventy . OpEC is at eighty one . They're also losing pennies . Like pennies. Yeah, they're not losing much, but they're losing a little . You know the mark et is skeptical but yet it's back to almost pre war. With the exception of Mr. Global, there are a lot of people out there that are trying to make it appear the market is really good . And I've seen at least two oil analysts out there going. The strain of our moves, the oil is flowing through and the market is speaking. Well, that's sort of true. Yes, oil is flowing through. Yes, the market is Iranian oil . But it's all Iranian oil , right? Yeah, the best market in the world on the way to Asia . Yeah, on its way to Asia . But in fact, only twenty five ships got through yesterday , you know, which is less than three hundred . And you know, they were saying, Hey, they let in three Kwaiti not Kuwait Qataris, very large liquid natural gas carriers finally got through after one hundred and eighteen days . You know, well, of course that it would get through after one hundred and eighteen days there was a war and it took those ships sat off the PO the Persian Gulf until that or outside the Persian Gulf until yesterday. Now they're like running break the Qataris are getting their gas back online. Yes, watchers, sir. Fun fact about yesterday, an Iranian oil floating . Trump has signed yesterday a document removing all of the sanctions of Iran allowing the United States for the first time to buy Iranian oil . Yes . And here's the kicker. Iranian tank sters can now come to the United States because they removed a law called I think it's called the Harris Act where only U. S. ships could move oil interdependently around the states of the United States . And the Iranians now can go straight into New York City, offload or Bayo Bayo, New Jersey, we know that's you, right? And offload your oil and straight into the refinery . Thank you, Donald Trump. Donald Trump, and they cleared this up, Donald Trump eliminated forty seven years of sanctions . Yes, good job. I'm telling you. And let's just remember when we talk about this that only about a week ago the State Department informed Congress by a letter that Iranian oil revenues are the main source of financing for the Iranian armed forces and for the terror infrastructure around the Middle East . Only a week ago JD Vance was asked about this, right? He was asked about , you know, now you've taken the sanctions off of Iranian oil. Iran can now earn five billion dollars a month in oil profit , right? I mean, that's profit clear and free after they bumped it out, put it on ships, went around the world. And he was just like, well, so we've got to give them some incentive. And it's okay like . What happened to the Ayatollo Khameni bad nineteen seventy nine Paul sanctions after taking hostages? All the sanctions are gone, including the ones from when they took hostages back in nineteen seventy nine , you know, summy American embassy. No problem . This is called incentivizing, right? Yeah. Donald Trump is incentivizing Iranians. But yeah, incentivized it would all go to purchase food food in the US Yeah. Isn't that wonderful? Yeah , oh yeah . We this is you have to understand something . Trump fucked up our agriculture for the people in the Midwest really bad in the Midwest, they grow few things . They grow wheat , they grow soybeans and they don't grow corn . Corn, sorghum Sorghum, corn. Yes. Those are the few things that we saw. And so in particular used to go mainly to China . Now because of Trump tariffs, China said, fuck you, we'll just go somewhere else . Now they went You know where they went, right? They went to Brazil under Bolsonaro then they they and they just almost stopped one hundred percent of US soybean purchases which, by the way, was our big gest global crop being sold . Same thing with wheat and corn. You know who the second biggest buyer of U. S. wheat and corn was US agency for International Development . And they were putting it in bags and giving it the US, they were making money off the US government. We got rid of that. We'd rather let black people starve, fuck them. That's their attitude. I'm sorry, please watch it. No, no, you're covering the points that should have been covered by yeah, I appreciate it. So now they have to appease the farmers . Many of them aren't big farmers . These are like these are farmers that have to send their kids to school like Tay State to get agriculture economy or get agriculture study and they all go back for family business. They don't go work for a corporation and save their money season by season , they spend it on tractors, they rent tractors. It depends on what they need. They don't have sometimes they don't have the money to buy the equipment. They have to rent it out . So it's very expensive right now for farmers and I forgot which one who was the American politician that decided to say something, you either become big or you get kicked out of the farming business in the U. S. I forgot who it was. But that was a thing. And now that these small farmers are being squeezed out and these are some of the largest voting blocks for Trump and the election is coming up, all of a sudden you have JD Van going, okay, okay, we'll give you the money , but you have to buy our crops first that no one is buying . It makes sense. When you look at the bigger picture, you're like, oh, okay. What's going on ? So you're just trying to sell your crop out, but the thing is that's only the one hundred billion dollars. That's not the rest of the three hundred billion dollars from the other rest of Gulf nations . We haven't decided yet like there's no cap on what they do on that and supposedly that is straight up to build the country . That is to rebuild everything. So that one hundred billion dollars , that's why they need the food anyways . But Iran is not that starving for food because they're considered a breadbasket for the Middle East. Yeah, well, let's take a look at Trump's twe et this morning to talk about that. I will put this up here . So I will move that closer . It says despite their protestations , despite their protestations and fall, I'm going to take this off . Despite their protestations and false statements to the contrary , coupled with the drumbeat of the fake news , which is doing everything possible to make the U. S. victory as small and insignificant as possible . Iran is fully and completely agreed to the highest level nuclear restrictions long into the future , infinity . Infinity . So he's got three exclamation points on it. So you know it's true . This will this will ensure nuclear honesty . If they do not agree to this, there would be no further negotiations . Based on this and other major concessions being made by Iran, I have agreed to allow the Strait of Hormuz to remain open Oh yeah, yay , with no further blockade . However comma , all ships are remaining in place. It would be necessary to reinstitute the blockade, which it seems at this point highly unlikely. The money and or sanctions that the U. S. Treasury is releasing goes into escrow, controlled by the U. S. A and will be used for the purchase of food and medical supplies exclusively from the United States includ ing wheat supplies wheat and soybequeat, and soybeans from our great American farmers . These are things that are desperately needed in Iran. This is a humanitarian crisis, and I feel it's necessary to help now before it's too late. Talks are going well . One exclamation question. Thank you for your attention this matter. Wagio, what is it you have to say? You don't understand that , you know, you should use your cryptology a little bit. You know, this is a cryptic message from the president to it's cryptic, so it's cryptal. Oh no, I don't think it works that way . But I appreciate you trying . This is okay, guys , guys, I know we like to have fun and everything and we do interrupt each other deliberately and on purpose . But let me check y'all something This is a sign of mental illness . This is delusional. He lives in an alternate reality which doesn't seem to touch place that we live in. He opened, he has declared he's opening the strait of hormones. He really thinks that that blockade closed the Strait of Hormuz and and it's amazing to me, you know, of course he doesn't know anything about history. The British did this too. Well, after they after Mosad nationalized oil, didn't work, right? Boats go by. People sell oil . But all of this other stuff , you know, he ran has agreed fully and to the highest level of nuclear inspections? No, they haven't . They haven't. It was proposed that the IAEA reinstitute the same controls they had under Barack Hussein Obama , right? Same things . And he's just like that will ensure nuclear honesty. Now here's something that I'm sure is very upsetting to the U. S. Navy . They've been told they're not leaving blockade stations . I feel sorry for you guys . No trips to the Seychelles, no trips to Mumbai, not even a steel beach visit down to Diego Garcia to stay your ass right there , which, if I'm not mistaken, according to the MOU , is supposed to be completely lifted and you do guys recall how many days thirty days thirty thirty days . Yeah. So you know the Iranians are like another cup of tea I think right I think basically it's all bullshit. So you know , if we if there's some way to track track the ships enforcing the blockade , I think there is gone. There's a way to track them. Yeah No one should track . Yeah. But this stuff about all this money is going to be held in escrow and to be used for food, medical supplies, corn, wheat, soybeans . This sounds very familiar. This sounds like a black guy said at first this was part of the JCPOA for that one point seven billion dollars . It was held in escrow and in Qatar . It was only used for food stuff and medicines. That's it and it, had to be purchased from Qatar via Qatar . So I mean, this is the literal, I'm sorry, it's time to get into race politics here. This is the literal whitewashing of a great deals that he hated it because as that cartoon said, what did you hate so much about the JCPOA? Barack Obama's signature, right? Dirty black guys dirtying up politics and this man is delusional . This is a sign of dementia . He thinks he's king of the world. He raises his finger. The street arm opens, he drops his finger, it closes. No, he just turned it into a combat zone and insurance companies wouldn't let anybody through . But he thinks twenty five tankers are super awesome even though they're going through the Iranian separation scheme. Go ahead guys . Yeah, what can we say? I mean, this is this is it 's just things seem makes up . Most of it, I think, to be honest, it's just yeah , you know, I had purchas ed of medicines and foods and stuff for American farmers . No , not a chance. I had a psychiatrist reach out to me recently and confirmed that Trump does have all the evidence of going althemers . Yeah . Well, of course, I saw I was in a documentary film called gosh , what was the name of that film? It was about Trump's mental health and these psychiatrists that evaluated him. They're not supposed to failure to warn warn and these guys were supposed to actually evaluate they were evaluating Trump's mental health and this is ten was it twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. And they were like, this guy's du Lally. I mean he is his border, what do they call it narcissistic personality disorder of the highest that they've seen. And it's a trait that was Hitler had it, Stalin had it, all of them had it , and their thing was to bring pain on other people gave them pleasure , gave them pleasure. And Trump's whole thing was cheating you, cheating you. He would laugh at stealing from contractors. And there's no difference. By the way, in case you guys haven't seen it, speaking of speaking of bribes people regret, this is a video of the Qatar KC or Qatari seven hundred and forty seven that they gave to Trump flying circles around Andrews Air Force Base. I don't know why this thing is not working for me right now, but you know, for millions and million eight hundred four hundred million dollars , this thing's flying circles around Maryland . And the worst part is first that is that's his company's fucking ugly ass breath scheme with a giant American flag on the tail . And it's like he got you know what he calls it? Dumbass calls it the flying White House , right? And it's like what the fuck? Oh, by the way, one other thing, did you guys hear what happened when the when Maggie Hab erman and Jonathan Swan from the New York Times went to the Oval Office in the middle of the war , and they thought he could have tried to introduce them to why he's winning the war . And they get in there and he starts bringing out pictures the columns on the ballroom and bragging how there would be more columns that would be taller than those on the Supreme Court , right ? And then starts bragging about other stuff. Oh, the maple trees. He had a list of maple trees that he was going to choose from . And he goes, He's, not I'm shitting you. He says, I'm choosing trees. I'm the best at choosing trees. Bits you crazy Why do these people why for the love of whoever your preferred religious deity is . Why ? Why? Would no one say, Mr President, you're out of your fucking mind and write a book about that , right? Don't tell me that I'll throw down thirty bucks for a book called You're out, Mr. President, you're out of your fucking mud . Nobody it is this is the ultimate white rich white guy privilege . You can be totally nuts , nuts and they'll go wow, this is I have to give this f air consideration that perhaps he has other things that are on his mind apart from the fact that we're killing thousands of Iranian civilians . Yeah, that 's why make it makes sense guys make it make sense no sense there's no way there's no way it makes sense the guy the guy really is so distracted by the pool in front of the White House monuments in front of the Lincoln Memorial . He believes that his speech on that memorial was bigger than Martin Luther King was his soul . He thinks that the project of American Blue flag was botched by protesters . Meanwhile , he decided to put thirteen million dollars in a company that is owned by a friend of his that decided to do a butchered job on making our country or rebuilding our country. And now that it's firing back at him , he's upset about it and he's trying to blame it on everyone else , just like his war, just like everything else. Most of it doesn't know what he's doing . No . And the reason for those of you wondering why we are getting so political so quickly, the I'm trying to emphasize this is the decision making process of life and death . And he has now contradicted himself, loves Israel, hates Iran, and now he loves Iran, hates Israel . People live in die from this , right? They live and die from this. They arrested a Swedish journalist for scooping up a cup of water out of the fountain. We used to play not the fountain, but the reflecting pool. When I was a kid, we swam, we played in the reflecting pool. It is not against the law to get in the reflecting pool. It was a big thing, you know, it's just crazy. This is madness, it's madness going on here. I'm going to, by the way, here's a little administration 'cause I have to leave shortly . The chat is up. The US Iran MOU FLUSA Day one, the correct date is on their day one hundred and twenty eight, post your questions there for Waj and Jacob . And for me , I'll be answering them after I leave this funeral around twelve o'clock . But right now the things that are going on, I mean the other one is Israel attacked claims that they attacked six Hezbollah soldiers near Nebate and they were like, Oh were, in therefiltrators. We're allowed to kill infiltrators. Okay, let's see what Iran thinks about that. So there are many, many parts of this story that are going on that we all need to know about and I for one have to go show my condolences to my poor cousin who joined the club I was in, right? The Hot Young Widows Club, as they used to call it. Now our group is called Club Wit and it's all inclusive . But these guys , you know, he's he's hurting, so I'm going to go help him out and I will be answering your questions on the chat. Jacob and Wago will take the show from here. I will be just off camera. The show will be up. All right, so I will actually be hearing it. Liversebee says he's widowed too. Suck ass job. I'm sorry, widow, worst job I ever had. Six years for me, I get every day I go, I hate this job. I hate this job. And it does not get any better when you get married. So sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But anyway, guys, enjoy the rest of the show. I'll be monitoring like I'm at thirty three thousand feet and I will talk to you guys later, but please go ahead and continue with the chat . Bye. See you tomorrow, Mathem a. See you tomorrow and Michael says Ross again . We'll see you again . Okay , well, like NSA, I'm listening to you Yeah you have a good one . Yeah , don't want to take me to work real quick. What? You don't have time to get me over to work real quick? No, no, I'm stillill worse. You have a good one. Sorry about that . Should we start with Levin on but what's going on . Waiti . So so far like the latest updates about twenty eight minutes ago from Al Jazeera, Lebanese delegations has arrived for talks with Israeli with Israel in Washington . The Lebanese delegation arrived for a new round of U. S. mediation negotiation. It's interesting that the U. S. is mediating this . Lebanon is represented by Ambassador Nada with the Israeli delegation is headed by Ambassador Yahil . U. S. officials are also participating in the talks The discussion marks the fifth round of negotiation between both sides . The latest talks follow U. S. Iran negotiation and Iran out and criticized the Israeli shooting that was happening about a few hours ago . Yeah . Israeli started sniping and attacking in South Lebanon . So Israel and Lebanon and and Iran said that they're warning again that they might fall out or something like that if the attacks continue in Lebanon . It seems like it's shaky as ever, and Trump can't do shit about it. And for sure, I mean, none of none of the things in the in the MOU will progress as long as this situation continues . Iran will stick to the point that that Donald Trump hasn't fulfilled his end of the MOU as long as the Israelis are in Lebanon . So I think they'll, you know, they'll take it easy. They'll they'll earn their money . They'll sell their oil, get access to frozen funds , which they already have . And and then , you know, we'll see what the Israelis do, but but you know, interestingly with all this that's going on, you know, you had both Ben Grier and Smootridge come out and say the MOU doesn't concern us. We'll do whatever the hell we want in Lebanon and that is stay there and you know you know who Benjamin Netanyahu hosted yesterday ? Have a guess . He had a visit by a president . President of Somaliland? No , even much worse Hariya state, a rogue state . Oh my god North Korea Republic Serbska , Republica Serbska , like, you know , complete neo Nazi regime of Serbs in Bosnia . Okay . It's insane, you know, you can't make it up. He hosted the president of Republica Satovsky , you know real radical Putin , you know , nationalist regime that is holding sway and seeking independence, et cetera, et cetera . And really , you know , it's keeping Bosnia and Herzegovin stalled because they had this qu asi, you know, Confederate arrangement where Republica Satovsky can, you know, hold the whole country back from its progress towards the EU . So yeah, that was who Bibi hosted yesterday insane, really . Why he be hosting something like that ? Because he seems to host the West of the West . You know, sometimes when I discuss what is going on, I'm saying , well, Israel doesn't abide by Biden's international law, that is quite clear . And the way it's conducting these gorgeous policies, you know, it has the same disregard for international humanitarian law than you know, like Putin . So, you know, there's no that's why , you know, this Israeli government hosts Arabia states . It's it's insane . This is this is very interesting . I don't know if you know, but Ben Gabir came out yesterday and said that we should the Sara not we, the Sarah attack Iran nuclear facilities , whether there are peace talks or not or whether there is a peace deal or not . Whether like we were not involved in the peace deal and we will figure a way to attack Israeli at the Iranian nuclear facilities. What do you think about that statement ? No, I mean, he just shows his true colors. I mean he thinks that Israel can go it alone and and that they don't need any allies and they don't need to comply with international law to help with it. We want to establish greater Israel and we will dominate the Middle East. It's like, you know , crazy talk . People talk in and especially polymarket , I'm not a person that bets or anything, but I keep an eye on polymarket because it seems like the AI software in there has been interestingly correct about some of the US elections. That's a different conversation. But polymarket was saying that they expect that Netanyahu government will be dismantled soon . Talks are if that happens, we expect to see an even more far right government . Something that even would drive this war even further into escalation it's not looking good . It's not looking good . It's not it's not but we just have to wait and see. I mean, there's going to be an election. Is that in September general elections and let's see what happens . The bad news is that it doesn't seem that , you know, there is much of an alternative in Israel . There are the other right off right wing politicians that have broken away from the extremist government . I mean little helps I guess . So as long as you stay away from the parties of Smart s and Benguya, I think I think we'll add a little bit of sanity at least to any government . So I think it's hard to predict. You know, I see a lot of Israeli commentators that , you know , that are just basically saying we need a government that is not a kindergarten with these crazy like Ben Guynz Motorich, but let's see how it works out I think there's a lot of power on the global stage by the Israeli vote. And I believe Israelis have a big responsibility to choose a moderate government. That's why I've called on the Israelis to grassroot organize . And if we don't recognize that their power is more powerful than any protest in Europe for any protest in the United States , because their decision making that's going to affect the rest of this middle East peace talk . I was going to ask that. Go ahead. Let me just that voices, you know, like former foreignister Min Tipil ny has been out also saying, listen here, Israel, we need to respect international law and international agreements . This is our foundation. So we are undermining our own security taking this line and thinking that, you know, war on all fronts will solve everything . But it's like, you know You know , some of some of these radicals in the right wing are just completely nuts . Yeah, yeah, they're going all out , which is a little scary . They' s two things happening in the EU that is interesting to me and I want to get your perspective on it . We'll start with the new prime minister in the UK, the Union party has the Labor Party have a new leader. Their previous prime minister has stepped down . And what is the new ime Pisrter Min 's perspective on the Israeli US conflict with Iran ? And is it on his big to do list or is he just focused on domestic issues at the moment . I think domestically the UK after Brexit is in so much of a turmoil that you know for any British Pimre Misinter , you know , internationally will be weak until he solves the domestic situation , to be honest . I don't think they'll be a big change from what the internationally, from what the Kiyastama was doing . But the sad part is that after Brexit , you know, fixing the UK economy and getting, you know, some sense back seems hard. You know, you've had a Conservative Party that has committed haracurry and then there's this extremist right wing party of reform that is, you know, insane as well . So it's hard . But I think he'll be very focused on domestic domestic issues. It's very hard to predict because even though reform is looking good in the polls . It's very hard to it's it won't necessarily generate a majority when there's going to be an election. So let's just take it easy on that, but let's see how it goes. But internationally, I don't think there's a big change. That's interesting . The other thing is that there's interesting news between the EU and Afghanistan about Taliban in particular at the moment . I have always said if you want to stop foreign refugees from coming to European and American nations or Western nations in general you should help stabilize nations and improve their economy rather than creating destabiliz ation. The only reason they go somewhere else is for a better opportunity because all of their chances have been demolished. The EU is at a pickle . They have been trying to deport a lot of Ivani refugees that have come through the past five to ten years of war and out post war and especially after Paliban took office . It's the first time the EU gives Taliban visas to come and join the EU for talks . And particularly the only reason they're inviting the Taliban over is talking about how we can send back those Afghani refugees back to Afghan istan . Yeah . And yet , the EU still doesn't recognize Taliban as the official government in Afghanistan . Yeah. What's going on here ? It's useless. It's useless. You know , shit always happens when you have politicians that try to play domestic politics internationally . So this whole way of solving migration issues, et cetera, et cetera , just to become to gain popularity popularity domestically is always going to end up badly because you know , you have a government in Kabul with bona fide al Qaeda members and people on the UN terror lists going back to the nineteen going back to the early two thousands . It's it's quite insane really. And then we are saying, well we have to do something to solve this migration issue . So we'll build some relations . And you know , the double standards are quite horrific. Now I've worked a lot with Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaedaa, et ceter . So and , you know, have also , you know, we've we've lost a lot of soldiers in Denmark. We are the per capita the nation that has lost the most soldiers in Afghanistan . So more than the US and the UK per capita . So it's an open wound . It's it really is an open wound . But you know , Trump signed the surrender agreement, the capital capitulation with the Qatar , the beautiful the beautiful deal, as he called it . And yeah, we're still paying the price and the EU doesn't know how to, you know, deal with it and you know, then to show the voters that we're doing something about migration and getting some people back, et cetera, et cetera. It's it's terrible, you know . Didn't some of our a big block of these Avani refugees were somewhat involved with Western militaries. Like they were translators, they were guiders, they were food cooks, there were many , and they all became targets immediately by the Afghani government. Yeah. Additionally , the largest number of victims by the al Qaeda and Taliban were actually Muslims . So many of these were running away from Taliban oppression . So we're basically sending them back to their deaths essentially before we ensure that they get any protection. What are we are we just trying to get rid of them by any means necessary just like how we're trying to get how we try to deal with the houseless population everywhere in the world and shuffle them from one place to another ? I don't know exactly how many and how they're going to screen as to the threat against them individually because at least it didn't mark . Now I'm not an expert on these things, but there needs to be a process to determine whether they are under threat. And I'm quite sure that , you know, we can't send back translators and people that have served at the embassy or, you know, stuff like that. So I don't know exactly how they will how they will do it, but it's terrible really. I have to say there's no good coming out of this but it's all a matter of migration policies I guess . Did you see this post ? No, I can't I can't read it. What is it ? It says visual access to US laptop while using someone else's CAC to login pure incompetence at every level it shows Jared Kushner , JD Vance with the Kapodi prime minister on a laptop , that laptop doesn't seem to be owned by the State Department or owned by JD Vance . And he's logging into his own accounts using the prime minister's computer . But what is as long as that ring is that according to protocols? No , but you know , this administration, it's it's typical, you know, you've seen it with the with the signal mail or what is it the group this the group ch at and you've seen it with the with what's his name Steve Witchkov travelling to Moscow without a translator and using a Russian Russian translator and using his common cell phone, et cetera, et cetera. It's it's dis abled but you know this administration doesn't seem to care . I still haven't gotten a confirmation on whether that is an actual thing, but I think that if that was true , it just makes the Hillary Clinton emails look like a joke . Exactly . Exactly. I mean that was that was probably least of the security breaches . Let's see I think it's just a crazy man . Like the more you learn abouted what's going on before like like you're, what ? And we had a problem with such and such really ? And you had a problem with Obama one billion dollar like so much shit is happening and you're like comparing and you're like Daniel you know I saw earlier today also something that Jade Vance had tweeted back in twenty twenty three after the terror attacks in Israel , blaming blaming Obama , you know, the money that the Iranians got from the from the JCPOA for the terrorist attacks in Israel the seventh of October And look what they're doing . It's terrible . All right, it's crazy. Someone is asking what kind of ships are passing through the Strait of Hormuz . Majority of the ships that are passing are oil ships . There's still hundreds of ships stranded in the Strait on both sides . Majority of the ships are passing right now are priorities for the Iranian government first and then everyone comes in and left next . If you think about it, there was around eight hundred to seven eight hundred a thousand plus shits on both sides of the strait that were stranded before this release happened . And about to go ahead and most of these ships that we've seen transit out of the strait of Homus have been linked to Iran . You know, there have been Qatari LNG tankers as well . But Iran clearly does some nations favors , but it's not, you know, there's clearly a priority going on . And the thirty thirty Iranian very large cruel carriers we've seen exit . You need to also be aware that there are still fifty six Iranian tankers that are fully loaded inside the Gulf that are also going to ex it . So it's a whole lot of Iranian crude that is that's coming out now and I haven't seen much , you know , other crude making it out . I don't know about you, Watsi, but it seems that they're prioritizing, they'll probably give some favors to the Iraqis as well and the Chinese, Iraqis, Indians all probably get some favors . Yeah . I mean, they are part of the Bricks by the end of the day . And the Bricks takes priority. And I think a lot of people don't understand how much competition is between the G seven and Bricks at this point . Yeah . Exactly. There is a question directed to you, Mr. Jacob . It goes, what do you wish European politicians would do to push all involved parties toward a peace agreement and establish and stabilize the region . Yeah, unfortunately, Europe is still a political dwarf, not least when it comes to the Middle East . Why? Because there's no unity , there's no there's no foreign policy per se . And you know , nation states in Europe go their own way . It's very difficult to reconcile the Spanish view with the German view, with the Danish view, et cetera, et cetera . So European Middle East policy, unfortunately, is very , you know , it's very messy . And had the pleasure of dealing with it when I was based in the Security Council in New York back twenty years ago . And unfortunately, the situation hasn't improved much from my perspective . The EU needs to become a federation so we can have we can We can have a real common foreign security and defense policy in unison because you'll always have , you know, states that go their own ways in foreign policies . And the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese will know how to play that game , unfortunately . I have a question a lot of good intentions. I have to say there are a lot of good intentions in Europe . But you know, when it comes to foreign policy good intentions doesn't get you off . So I think Europe an Union is going to go some through some turbulent times, especially going through what's going on in the Middle East and the United States. It seems like they're looked unclear about the direction that they're going. Everyone has a different idea of what should happen. Yeah, lots of stuff is improving, actually , but not in, you know , foreign policy and especially not on the Middle East , you know, in terms of Russia , it's not that bad . It leaves a lot to be desired still, but not as bad Middle East as West because that's really where , you know, nations have a lot of views . So that's troublesome. Different interests. Each country has different interests in the Middle East as well. Yeah, exactly. And then because of those special interests, national interest , you know, it 's easy to get hijacked . We had, you know, just on, you know, on some trade issues Visa V China , you know , there was quite a hard line getting going inside the EU and then the Chinese succeeded in hijacking the Spanish and then it came off the rails, et cetera, et cetera So yeah, that's that's that's really terrible. But at least now we got rid of Viktor Orban the prime minister of Hungary that was f avored by who was he favored by? He was favored by Jensen. He was favored by Trump. He was favored by Netanyahu . There you go . At least he's gone . The Illuminati triangle . Terrible. I have someone that's asking me a question question is saying you'm sure you covered this. What's Saudi Arabia's motivation relationship with Iran vis the war ? Were their always enemy? Are they upset that Boyle is now with more competition to their product . Here's a few things you need to understand just like in In Christianity , certain countries have sworn an oath to protect certain sets of Christianity , like the Catholic Church has France Italy sworn protections for the Catholic Church The Church of England is protected by the King of England and in the Middle East , you have the protectors of the Sunnis and the protectors of the Shia . And that conco is a thousand four hundred years old where it is based on actual political conflict . The conflict between Shia and Sunni is not religious. It is now based on faith, but originally , it was the people that believed that the descendant prophet family should rule the Islamic Uma, the Islamic nation versus Muslims who believed that based on unanimous consent, which is typical democracy at the time , they would choose their next khalifa , which is the rule of the Muslim world . Well , in the beginning, the first couple Khalifas, it was okay until it was Ali And his grandkids, and his kids, the grandkids of the prophet, Hassan al Hussein. I'm a descendant of the Hussein lineage . And Al sein himself was assassinated in Iraq in Karbala who believe that I think at the time it was at Mamanapan, I need to go and re refresh my memory . But it was a heavy war . Muslims died on both sides and by the end of it the Hassan and Hussein were assassinated both lineages of the prophet . Their kids lived on , but the grandkids themselves were assassinated, Ali was assassinated, I believe . And then this conflict have lived on . Shia believed that Sunnis have betrayed the Salam . And Sunnis believe that Shia are apost ates and bring out stuff out of nowhere and that they are a fake religion . So both have been at war since then Iran since the Islamic revolution , since because they have a large fiery crowd and there's a couple holy sites there and they see themselves as the protectors of the sites of Hassan and Hussein , the descendants of the prophets . So they see themselves as protectors of the Shia and the custodians of the mosques of Hassan and Hussein . And you have the Sunnis who protect the two holy mosques Mecca and Medina and see themselves as protecting the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia . And since then since a thousand four hundred years ago , till now this is slaying effect . My dad doesn't trust a single shea and think s that if he goes to a she e house , this person will piss on his coffee before he serves it to him. Set that literally a billion times to me . He was like, oh yeah, I can't go to a Shia house . This person will push on my copy without me knowing and serve it to me . It's clearly word for word. This is how much like propaganda is pushed out there and this is how far it goes . Are there friends? Are we trying to fix this? Is the new generation getting better at it? Yes , but there's a lot of work that needs to be done. There's a lot of entanglement and complexity . And don't forget that oil in Slaudi Arabia comes out of the properties that was owned Ajordi Shia people . And the Saudi government seized that property away from them to sell that oil. So technically that oil is owned by S iam in the Arabian Peninsula. And Saudi Arabia took over the eastern province, right? Yes . In the Eastern Province , absolutely. And government where they were the Shi majority ? Yes, the Shi A majority . And the Saudi government views them as a risk most of the time . And this is they are Iranians . We're talking about correct. This is the area . I've been there a few times . They the Saudi government views them as spies for Iran, the Saudi government, even in Kuwait and Pappa, Kuwait has de izened denaturalized thousands and thousands of thousands of people since the beginning of the war , if you guys don't know. But yeah, the conflict is deep, the conflict is big, it is complicated. A lot of rights have been taken on both sides . And it's not gonna be solved in my lifetime, I believe Exactly . And the new thing here , well, not the new thing as such , but what we saw back in twenty eighteen , twenty nineteen , when the Iranians first attacked the Saudi oil fields and the Houfis started attacking Saudi Arabia and the UAE from Yemen was the fact that the United States didn't go in and protect their so called allies in the Gulf as they would have done previously . And since then these countries had been in bank because security wise, they don't get the protection from the US anymore. They thought perhaps that Trump would you know give them protection. That's probably why they offered him billions and billions and gazillions of dollars in deals, but now they've seen with this war that they get no protection from the US really have to find some way to accommodate the Shia regime in Iran . I agree, I agree . That's it. There is an interesting I can't add anymore to what you said. There's a there's an Arabic saying in Damaya Borm When water's here and you are cleaning yourself , there's no need for Tayamom. Tayam is a Bizuan way, old school way for Arabs to clean their hands using just sand . And when you don't have water, you need to clean, you need to use scent. So when you say everything , and basically the same means if you said everything and there's nothing else to cover, there's nothing else for me to say. It's embarrassing. I don't know if everyone understood . But the interesting question that I'd like to end with and I mean we've reached the end of the episode and I would like to also hear what you think about this. Someone like how does the US restore trust at this administration ? How do we even get other countries to trust us again . I would love to hear your answer for that and then I'll answer after you . Yeah . I will say this administration has done so much damage to US credibility . You know, it's something we've not seen in history since the Second World War . And you know, in the Middle East, it's unprecedented you know, the as crazy as this seems the Sunni former allies of the U S , Saudi Arabia , the UA, Bahrain , Qatar , Kuwait . Oh man . Oh man , have now even seen that the U. S. you know, goes against Israel . You know, so they say, well, if Donald Trump really asks Ahmed Al Shara from Syria to go into Lebanon . No one can trust him. When the Israelis can't even trust him, why then hell would we ever trust him . So these countries will be pursuing new security arrangements. I think there's a way in for China. That was what we saw back in twenty eighteen nineteen , when the Saudi Arabia and Iran shadow war was going on , that the Chinese succeeded in mediating some kind of a balancing arrangement . So that is presumably what they will what they will try. But you know , I as long it's the same that we feel in Europe with the US, as long as the Republican Party is a personality cult built around Donald Trum p or whatever MAGA monster that will come up next , you know , the next disaster is only four years away . So regardless of how it's going what is going to happen in the midterm elections and in the next presidential elections , you know, we have to do something else because we can't rely on our alliance with the US again . We can hope that the US comes to its census and but as long as you have a system where the one party is hijacked by an insane cult that doesn't believe in truth and facts and makes up its own nonsense , then we can't, you know, then we have to find somewhere else to go. And I'm sure the Gulf Arab states will feel the same way . I absolutely agree. Here's what I think the next leader of the United States , the next leadership in the US Congress means anything . They need to focus on ending so called culture war and focus on uniting the US people because as long as they are divided and as long as they believe in conspiracy theory on both sides that each side is there not to be in the best interest of the United State, but there to bring the United State down. We're only going to be looking at each other as enemies and not focus on the big picture that the one percent has been invest ing all of their assets on dividing the rest of the people so they can take all the winnings and enjoy controlling all the politicians . The reality the reality is that as long as we can't have a leadership that is going to unite us Anyone that goes into office that you do the right step. Let's think about it for a second. Pope Francis represents the Catholic Church . If the Catholic Church is not united around the pope , nothing . When the Pope , Francis Blessed Soul was going around the world , meeting with indigenous groups , I would call it an apology tour , taking the time to admit the mistakes of the Catholic Church and actually build a genuine connection without that , whatever that came next didn't matter . If I say right now the next president needs to go on a pology tour for forgiveness from each country that we have betrayed . If the next president is focused on the culture war and we're still divided on it. We're back to square one . Yeah . So you want to prevent this from happening again. You don't want this just to be less forgive us again because you're keeping making the same mistake . That repetition of keeping the same mistake is what's causing people to distrust you . When Iran says the treaty between us and the United States needs to be ratified by the US and ratified by the UN Security Council. That means they want it to be legally binding because they no longer trust the U. S. Ward . Exactly. So when I say the next thing is that we need to be united around our leader, we need to focus on the class war versus the culture war . It is actually so we can stop this bullshit right versus left . When I was interviewing my friend and mentor , former governor of Kansas John Carlin in my interview, I was still in college with get informed with YG ninety one point nine KSDB . As what do you miss about old American . He says, I miss the days where we felt like we represented our people . We go to the floor of the Congress , go to the floor of the House of Representative . We argue from the bottom of the heart . We get heated as much as you can imagine. After that we leave and go to the steakhouse and have a beer and steak and talk as friends . The reality is that you got to have some relations the other side to make ends meet . the polarization that we happen, studies have shown it is all because there's income inequality I have to say, I think being united is the focus focus the United States being United is a big focus on solving its foreign issues. If you don't have your house straightened out , your foreign relations is all going to look messed up . That is exactly what we're seeing in the United States . Pix your house up, clean it up, get it organized so the rest of the world can come visit you . Exactly . Exactly. Look at the World Cup . The World Cup doesn't give a shit about politics and crazy talk and blah blah blah. It's just happening in the US. It's beautiful . It's very beautiful. I love seeing the international teams, international fans traveling . Have you seen the Spaniard fans that are sent to each country that their country is competing with. So I've seen Spaniard fans literally go to Saudi Arabia and then they're going to some Argentina next or something and they're traveling to countries that are competing them just so they could meet the other population and get to know the sports is amazing. Do you have any last word for the listeners, Jacob ? Yeah , let's let's focus a bit on the World Cup . And you know , I was in I was in Baghdad at the darkest hour that was happening in Iraq and Iraq managed to win the Asian cup while I was there. And all the Iraqis went crazy and cried and shooting up in the air and and it gave them something else to think about . And that's really that's really, really important . There was last week on my paid subscribers show, I showed them a little my viewers a little a little letter I had from my colleagues in the intelligence cell from back then. 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