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All right, you guys, happppy Monday. I hope all of the fathers out there had an amazing Father's Day weekend. All the dads that are actually good fathers, I should say. If you're a bum, you don't count, you have to do better. Anyway, I would like to formally announce at the top of the show that you guys were correct. I am with child. I'm expecting another child. Well lot of you guys had sussed that out genuinely within the first four weeks of my pregnancy. I actually found out, I am not kidding that I was pregnant fromr you guys You guys were in the comments. you were asking questions. You were like, Kis has a very unique attitude that she's known to have when she's pregnant with a boy. It's kind of suss. I think she's pregnant. Yes, you were correct. I learned from you and then I found out that that is indeed The reason as it always is that I grow sort of increasingly violent when I am for some something about growowing a boy inside of you that makes you want to aggress. That's how I feel. I don't understand it. But I want to physically fight people, the more pregnant I become, I want to physically fight people. There's nothing I can do about it. It's a condition And yeah that we're gonna unpack today and I want to get that done at the top of show. Let you guys know that you are really annoying for knowing first. I shouldn't be finding this out from the internet. But do you guys think you are? Clearly, you know me better than I know myself Anyway, welcome back to Candace. Okay, I also want to mention here that I was Pregnant truly a victim When my foot was broken and Cabbot Phillips accosted me on the toddler playground. Never forget Cabbot Phillips did to me in my early pregnancy with a broken foot. Casted. I'll never let it go, Cabbot, I'll never let it go. Anyway, over this weekend, something else happened. I was actually on Friday recording at Sean Ryan's studio, his podcast studio. and he lives down the road for me. was having a good time, came out and realized because he does the long format podcast, I think like four hours that there was a death hoax and I had all of these messages from people, my mom, my dad, my aunt, everyone that I know asking me to post a sign of life because apparently there was this combo that some girl posted and then deleted that I passed away. and then on top of that, there was some like obituary website that said that I was going to die on Sunday. So listed my date of death as Sunday whichich is totally crazy. I don't know. I think people do these things to get into your head psychologically I did not die this weekend. People were then emailing me saying donon't go out on Sunday because this pre obituary exists I did not slow down my weekend in any way at all. I just don't live in that, I guess that vein of fear because it's just unhealthy. And every day we get emails of people asking me, Don't go, don't travel. donon't do this. I can't live in a cage. Bird bird can't fly in a cage So I did a lot of things this weekend, but dying was not one of them. In fact, it's the opposite. I'm growing life. So be happy, smile. It's great. I did indeed, however, sit down with Sean Ryan for a very long interview, which will be dropping soon and is sure to make a lot of heads explode because we covered everything. I mean, from my background to my beliefs, to Charlie's assassination, obviously to his widow. Nothing was off limits because I never give people any limits when they interview me. I'm an open book. That's what I'm doing here on the podcast. I will say, however, that he seemed a little bit surprised to learn that his one time guest Brian Harpole is suing me and extraordinarily trying to spin this tale in the courts The only reason he was forced to go on the Sean Ryan show thereby making him a limited public figure was because of me and my harassment, despite the fact that I never uttered his name before he went on the Sean Ryan Show and had that disaster of an interview. So it'd be interesting to see if Seaan Ryan end up in this lawsuit because they have a totally different memory of how he ended up on that show. Interesting Lars lie all the time and get caught But something else very curious happened Okay, I gott to tell you this, it's always the production team that you want to talk to when you do these sorts of things. They know things. they have secrets Never underestimate the producer, the cameraman, the control room, the lighting director, they see and they hear everything. They're basically Iel everywhere And I always make small chat with that, you like, Hey, who are you from? I just like to know who everybody is. And he had a really fantastic team, by the way. likeike really just had it together. They did tell me something that was frankly disturbing Okay. So Sean Ryan has this really amazing like his studio. you don't get the full effect of it on his show. It's basically like a museum. And so people want to contribute to the museum. He's got all sorts of artifacts. I can't even begin to describe it because I feel like I wouldn't do it any justice of people who you know who have lived through certain things or survived things, various missions, a lot of military stuff And they get it over to him and he puts it up in the museum. Well. So when I' B someone on the team on Sean Ryan's team told me After seeing this museum, Brian Harpool wanted to contribute to it And he offered Sean Ryan Charlie Kirk's blood on his bag as a gift So you know the cross body purse purse looking thing Like I said, this is like it wasn't a man purse. It was his like, I don't know, onene of the things he suing me over is was I described it accurately body bag And then he went to Charlie after Charlie got hit offered that bag with the blood still on it. to Seaan Ryan And it was declined for obvious reasons because it's weird to offer that to somebody As a gift, who would want that? Why would you offer that? It's very strange And you just share that You need to get off my chest The second thing that they said, which was kind of just in passing that I thought was strange was that sometime after Brian Harp's interview, they almost interviewed Eric Kirk. were communication, rather. They were in discussion, conversation to potentially interview Erica Kirk. Not weird. She did do a bunch of interviews, obviously. She was promoting Charlie's book What I thought was odd was that they were in communication to book that. with Tarol Farnsworth The guy who announced on camera that Charlie was dead, the guy who took down the camera, the guy whos the runs the audio visual company. Why would he be doing Any bookings for Erica, That's very strange. It's actually very interesting why the audio visual guy would be involved in bookings at all Remember, we explored this question of when did Erica and Terol get so close, when did they get to know each other? If you watched our series, Bide of Charlie, you know that the Farnsworth familyamily clan bit like a little deep Mormon mafia No. Grew up with Tyler Boyer's family, Chandler, Arizona. they all went to high school together, Thick as thieves, so to speak And Eddie Farnsworth and his brother were one of the ones who brought Laurie Franz Fe into those government contracts in Arizona. This is before Erica met Charlie. This means Erica and the Farnsworth family, Tyler Boyer, their relationships predate Erica's relationship with Charlie. That is a fact That is literally recorded if you look into the Arizona Congressional files You can see Laurie presenting on the house floor with her second husband, Larry Ginta, actually third husband, Larry Ginta. and Erica's stepfather, this is just a fact. So Something that's interesting is in case you don't know this, turnurning Points campus has six buildings in total.'re not giving you anything that's not available through a quick Google search is on Google Maps And Charlie's building, the one that his podcast functions out of and has his his podcasting team, Colvet's team, and it used to have Tarl Farnsworth's team upstairs But in mid July, so shortly before Ch's assassination, he had Tarol's team Kicked out of the office. of his building. Why? I'm not sure. I don't know if it was because they were angry. I don't know what was going through Charlie's head, but he had been there for a while and then he had them moved On july twenty fourth, Tarol's team at Charlie's request was removed from the building. Now I'm entering in that data point in case it's relevant down bel line What we know is that Oddly He was immediately welcomed back into the building Following Charlie's death, we know this because Tarol is the one that is standing behind Erica. during her first Zoom call to the team, the six days after Charlie was assin She's not in bed crying. She's at the office in the Charlie Kirk building, and it is Terol that is standing behind her. Here's still a still photo from that moment just to remind you, you can see that person in the corner. That's Terol. That's the camera guy familyam is back together Tarl Farnsworth, in my view, was not just suddenly shadowing Charlie on these little college campus events because they were trying something new, as he said. in my opinion his new presence always has disturbed me His reaction to Charlie dying, obviously disturbing, his excuses thereafter for why he rushed to take Specifically the SD card out from the camera behind Charlie's head always disturbed me, right? I've never, never, ever, ever thought he was telling the truth I spoke to Erica. I didn't want her to relive Charlie dying. That's what he said. thenen we find out that there was Nothing worory on that particular film because the bullet didn't go through. Sos that's actually what they were hiding, in my opinion The entire thing, his presence feels off just feels off to me. And we look into the team that Tarl brought that day. I just don't like it. I don't like Um that we were recently able to identify as we did Philip Goldsbury. I've also, by the way, identified who one of the ops were from back home. Remember I told you there are apparently some ops who were watching the live stream. I've been able to verify one name, okay And I'm going pull up this graphic and tell you about this visual impulse team. Okaykay? So we know Terl. he's there at the top. Ryan Farnsworth is his is his brother Philip Goldsbury Jror. we discovered we told you about him. his father is the pastor who of course started a charity, global ministries in Romania Because why wouldn't he? Everybody's doing that. Everybody's helping the orphans in Romania. That's what everybody does here This person Parker Edwards, who we don't have a photo that we thought was appropriate to show because it showed his entire family But Parker Edwards, we just dug into this guy. And it turns out that he went to the same high school as Terl Farnsworth. This is like they all know each other. They all graduated from the same high school. Their families are families. They have been friends for years. He effectively grew up with the Farnsworth clan. And so that's interesting that he's there on the ground that day. Also his brother, Aaron Edwards, worked for visual Ipulse as well. wentent to the same high school, also went to Arizona State University. They all know each other. And the Farnsworth is a very powerful family powerful Mormon family. And then there's this guy Robert Golo, who I would like to know more about Okay. He was brought on. I am told. I stopp touring with Charlie And they started doing the redundancy of the microphone in twenty twenty four. He's actually from Liberia and then moved to Arizona, has been working in, you know, obviously in audovisual. He's been the guy behind the camera. He's the guy standing next to Tarl when Charlie gets hit, which I will now be saying. I'm not going to say shot because that doesn't feel right to me, but he's the one that's next to him and then he runs off and he was a new Hire. so to speak within the year before Charlie died And so I would just like to know more about him because we do have a lot of fans in Africa. Maybe people know more, he has never spoken out about what he saw. He kind of went away. I think he is still working in some capacity with Turningpoint USA. But if you know anything about Robert Golo and his involvement, we would love to hear from you. more tips at candice owens dot com Every detail matters Now we told you guys that the mike explosion theory in our view has infinitely more evidence. been It offers infinitely more sensible explanations for all the odd things that took place that day. We put together that list for you from them not bringing the bomb dogs over to that area paving over the crime scene, the shattered what looks like ABS glass that's in the back of the or plastic that's in the back of the car We also forgot to include something else that we can now add to our growing list of things that suddenly makes sense when we consider that it was a shaped charge with a pet and explosive packed into it, right? Shaped charge. I think the best way to think of it, if you can't comprehend it, is almost like a firework. like you can direct it and it explodes, but you can't like perfectly direct it and say hit right here Anyway. One of the other bizarre things that took place is that the people who immediately testified A Charlie got hit said that they saw Charlie get shot in the chest It was one of the things that we actually covered almost immediately after the shooting on this show was that many of the people who spoke to the news all bizarrely somehow politically connected. So we started profiling these people and we found out this person Tiffany Barker, I think was one of the names. actually, she was working on Phil Lyman's campaign. Phil Lyman was out there testifying. Everything just felt weird and organized. And so we covered it And we forgot that many people were saying that Charlie got hit in the chest. It was almost like they didn't look. It was very obvious where he got hit anybody who looked at him. So why did they suddenly run to cameras and say that they saw Charlie getet hit in the chest N never an answer for that. I want you guys to take a listen to these people who tried to convincingly sell that he got hit in the chest I heard a loud bang, which I figured a shot would be a little bit louder, but I just saw it hit him in the chest and then all of a sudden just tons of blood gushing right out where his heart is. and then he like fell over and slumped down and everybody got down and was screaming and then we all ran. It was this direct shot to the heart. it looked right where his heart is, it started going red. He fell back and went to his side. Th then I looked down at the crowd. it looked like the crowd they all went to their knees look back. When I heard the first gunshot go off, all of a sudden I just saw an eruption of blood, you know, come out of Charlie's chest and then kind of his whole body recoil and go limp and basically everybody just screamed and fell to the floor Ladies and gentlemen, they are not guessing. they are providing a description that never happened It never happened. There was never a pooling of blood near Charlie's heart N happened. It was very obvious if you were anywhere near where Charlie got hit and actually it came out sideways, the blood came out sideways, and I hate to be graphic and describe that, but it's important to remember that and we all saw the video, okay And I told you his shirt was clean And yet they described that as if it was pre plananned for them to go out there. I'm going to investigate these people who came out here and said this right near his heart I told you my theory is that the shape charge was intended to hit his chest, but something went wrong because the shape charge, like I said, can be directed, but it is not an exact science. I do not think they ever intended for the shot to be public they ever intended for it to hit his neck his mic The second redundant mic was rigged And it was meant to hit his chest. He was wearing a white shirt. Those descriptions were meant to make sense because they are the instant ones That came out. They're speaking to NBC News, a pooling of blood around his heart. You never saw that, sir How did you get on NBC newews? I'm going to find out. I'm going to find out who these people are becausecause that is way too specific. They are providing false witness intentionally Th then I think they had to pivot Actually, the shapes charge accidentally as opposed to hitting his chest causing that thirty o six diameter as would happen with a pet and explosives as we've demonstrated to you in the past it accidentally because of how Charlie was crouched. and hit his neck. And that ruined everything Every rined everything. It was problematic. It's the reason why Teraloldon had to scramble to get the cameras down because they were never supposed to see it. They could have said Reasonably that a thirty o six Eaten by Charlie much more recentably, obviously than saying that the chicken bones in his neck stopped it because he ate vegetables They panicked That was what Then that's why Terol erves from the phone with me. Again, this is my theory and I am now very much sticking to it Okay They panicked. It's the reason Erica had to step out That's why she would have gototten on the phone with Tarl so quickly because I was going, whyy is Tarl saying? why I didn't want torcod to relive? That's why did it He didn't have answer He was nervous. It was crazy And he acknledged that he spoke to Erica immediately. Why did you speak to Erica immediate? Why would you bother a quote unquote grieving widow the nonsense of a camera behind his head that shows nothing. Why did you jump specifically to grab that camera's SD card and then lie and say Andrew Colvt, people were stealing stuff Buddy, we have eyes. We saw you take specifically the SD card and you left the camera which is more expensive They panicked I believe this. they panicked B time because The plan did not go as expected. in my opinion. I have not seen any convincing evidence to the contrary. And now that I comprehend how a shape charge works And I am now receiving emails from people telling me But at Fort Wachua, they could have put together this rigged mic. I'm trying to comprehend what they said. They said they have a department that works in signals and I am communicating people who know more about that. But if I find out they assemble things like this at Fort Watchuga, things are going to get a lot more Interesting Anyway to the grieving widow. Now her story has adapted a lot. She lies. Erica lies. Erica is a liar She lied to my face. I to write say that she lied to me She lied to you, She lied to everybody. When she said, Andrew went rogue Good on you, Andrew. What a gentleman, to take that heat, having people calling you stupid. And just pretending you went rogue when in reality, you' were couding with Erica to present this superman, superman of Steel lie because Charlie ate veggies Some credit, a bit little bit d to you But because I think of our public pressure following the release of the doctored footage of Charlie Kirk appointing her to the position of CEO, her story that she sat down planned and told Meghgan Kelly You can see, as we showed you in that absurd Daily Mail article, that the story was beginning to shift, right? Suddenly, it was the footage never really mattered. Everyone knew that was Charlie's plan for her to assume the position Even though he never put it in his will, we all knew that that was the master plan Well, Erica's no longer speaking about the Aspen event. I think they'd like very much to move on from the Aspen event because liars lie all the time And she's now talking about the plan. There was always this plan. We nobody was privy to. if you were listening to Charlie's lips and the words coming out of them He's very clear but women should not become the CEO of any company under any situations, even if their husbands are alive. Apparently there was privately a discussion where he said but if I get killed, I want you to do it And She recently went to Illinois to lie through her teeth. I'm going to prove to you she lied through her teeth. She was like some educor summit And here's what she had to say. the newer story now about her stepping into eighty hour a week position formerly occupied by her husband of the CEO and chairm as CEO and chairman of a quarter billion dollar organization She's going to ramble a bit as people tend to do when they're spinning tails. She's also going to give an evil look for no reason. Take a listen. I am so grateful that Charlie had me involved in literally as much as possible with Turning Point USA, TP USA Faith other programs within the Turning point USA umbrella So much so to that to the point when everything happened I didn't there was a zero percent learning curve here So I didn't walk into to the office for the first time being like, wow, this is what is this place? There's six buildings. before all of this, I used to take the kids to the office prettyretty much daily sometometimes since because likei would have dance class and stuff like that Every other day, whatever, but I would bring them in because I wanted them to see Daddy with doing his radio show. I wanted them to be able to see running around the offices having fun and making friends with some of the employees because they would give them gifts. Like it was a family and it still is a family. and that's the way that the organization has always operated. And so when it came to the moments after everything happened I didn't look at the room and say Huds, who are you I didn't. I knew all of them by name I know a vast majority of our staff by name. I know their families. I know their backgrounds, I know their prorograms they're working on And we actually cut out the part that I wanted to also show of her saying that her and Charlie had these conversations. I don't know if you can pull it. I'd like the further the longer clip of her talking about how her and Charlie works together. and they had the private conversations where she does that like evil look to the side. So try to find that while I'm speaking about even what she's saying because this part is important too So two things I like to say is the first thing is that obviously she's lying through her teeth. Just from a common sense perspective, she's lying through her teeth because and we didn't show you this part, but we will, she's going talk about how her and Charlie always spoke about it. She talks about the plan He says there's no daylight between us, okay And like I said, we'll show you this clip You had private discussions. there was no daylight between you. He was telling you everything that was happening every single day and you knew how every department was operating as an quote unquote emergency plan She's lying. Okay, I said, she's lying so badly, it should frustrate you that she's even attempting it because it's almost an historically asinine lie. I actually turned to my producer and I said, She has to actually be the first woman in the entire world in the History of the world. Sumerian civilization that has taken her husbands, taken over her husband's corporate position as CEO and chairman after he died I said I would actually just bet that off the top because that's common sense. This doesn't happen ever. like literally ever. So we askedat GPT Where are the women that do this? This is so normal and we're all crazy for realizing that this is not normal at all. And here is what Chat GPT came up with, okay? First they giveave us Ellen Gordon Okay, great. She took over Toty Roll Industries after her husband, Nelvin Gordon died it But actually no, not mentioned is the fact that it was Her family's company They had a controlling interest in the company. And then her husband was brought in already working there for years while he was alive, first as the vice president of Puct development. Then she went on to become the senior vice president. thenen finally, she became the president and the chief operating officer of the company. againg, that her family owned the controlling interest in and a position that she maintained till she died. She she has w one more hat effectively. after he died. and it was her family's company. The second example they gave us Was Catherine Meyer Graham? I said, okay Maybe there is one. Well actually the second one I gave us is Erica Kirk, which is hilarious. U the third example they gave us They just threw in a contrast, so it's an example. It says actually GM. did not appoint a spouse after a CEO's death This is common in large corporations. By contrast, spouse succession is more common in founder led or family controlled organizations And they give us Katherine Graam Katherine May Gram, Sure enough, she did take over for her husband Philpp Grham as the publisher of the Washington Post after he died. But again, it doesn't count because actually it was Her family's company Her father had purchased the Washington Post out of bankruptcy. He was a headad of the Federal Reserve. And um thenen he said Hy, you're my daughter's husband, you should run the company. And then when he died, she took over her family's company as the publisher. Eugene Meyer was her father, like I said, who purchased Washington Post right out of bankruptcy. So no Andh, and by the way, I say she had a background herself in publishing and in writing and went to school for writing and worked at magazines. This we could not and I kept looking, I mean strenuously. We could not find a single Eple in human history where someone's wife just assumed their c corporate role as CEO and chairman of their company following a death, not even an assassination, just a death. generenally speaking, we challenge you to go out there and find the woman who did this especially as a stay at home wife, who kns nothing about the company. Erica is just pretending that she's involved. Okaykay? Miriam Madelson couldould have been the closest example, she came up on a list because she took over Sheldon's casino gambling business, it said, when he died in twenty twenty one, but that also was not accurate because it was actually them together that had a controlling interest. It's a publicly traded company. and she simply inherited his shares Right? in his will, I should mention as the proper beneficiary of his shares, his wife who he was together with for decades. And no, she's not the CEO. She never was the CEO and I don't think Mary Madelson wants to be the CEO. And I should say that this is Um, exclusively Now a human history feat that has been accomplished by Erica Kirk alone. who happens to be by far when you weigh her against all of the women that I just named, the dumbest and least accomplished person out of all of them. Okay, Erica can't get through a speech that's prewritten without a blunder without saying something ridiculous Everything she says is managed. She has no background in anything. No, she was not at the office every day. She's a liar. She lies about everything. I was genuinely shocked to hear those words come out of her mouth because I speak to everybody, by people inside, people who have been fired at the company. and one of the things they kept complaining about Erica doesn't know anybody. She doesn't know anything. She doesn't even know their names. And that was that was becoming a sticking point for a lot of these people You remember even when Aubrey got fired? she had said to Andrew Colbt, nobody knows who she is. You want my honest opinion about her. no people do talk about her because we don't know who she is Past and current employees were positively astonished by the lie that Erica is saying that she already knew everybody And you don't have to take it from past employees or future employees or current employees because Erica herself admitted this. She forgot, she's bad memory That's why you shouldn' lie unless you have a great memory. You shouldn'te at all. But if you're going to lie, you should have a really good memory She herself admitted afterfter the Super Bowl she jumped on the call to thank everybody and to say, that she was looking forward to learning their names because now the kids are at the office and the kids come home with stories and the kids now know the names of the employees and she said she was looking forward to spending time and learning the names of all the employees, takeake a listen I'm going to be doing something kind of like a lunch with your department. style thing because It is on my heart so badly. I would love to sit down with each and every one of you individually. I want to know your name, your face, be able to pray for you guys and really just know you. And so since I can't do individually just yet, because that would be a long day and time and month and year to do that. I'm going to be conjoining it through departments so we can make them very small and intimate, maybe three people at a time and have lunch with you guys just to hear your heart and hear your stories about Charlie. too be honest with you, that would be amazing and your memories with him Erica just said she didn't know the inpl placeice It would take her months. She literally says I want to know your names, I want to know what you're working on She's on that stage saying the exact opposite. She's a liar She lies all the time and we just have to just take it. We just have to take it. She just gaslights and they keep going. And anyways, he's ceued it up now to the point that I was talking about earlier. where she even suggests that this was like some conversation Charlie and her were having privately and he just could not memorialize this in a well. He was so brilliant, but this one thing he never memorialized in a well He would think he would given it went against everything he ever stated publicly about women in the workforce, but here it is justust like Anyone else. I mean, we always we had a emergency plan. U which other things I never thought would have to be executed on, but u It's one of those things where we obviously have had the conversation of God forbid, if something happens to you or myself, what's the plan? Um, we were not We were not foreign to death threats or personally got rape threats, we have kidnapping threats. like we're not it's not something that's foreign to us. So it was a conversation that needed to be had. and of course, it's uncomfortable, but Life is life, life is short. It's good to know that you have a plan. So all along l, she just Chileie and I, we confided and the team. It was not a It wasn't an unknown thing God forbid if something happened, this is the route we're going to take. I am so grateful that Charlie had me involved in literally as much as possible with Turning Point USA, TPSA Faith other programs within the Turning Point USA umbrella So much so to that to the point when everything happened Okay now we can come out of it. I didn't It's again, she never even thinks through common sense. okay? So for everyone who is married out there But she's saying about if something ever happens to us or one of us, that's a conversation people have That's actually the reason they establish Wils It's the very reason they established well in no relationship ever Go play this game. go out. anybody say I want to make sure you step into my role at work How do people generally know every bit of what their husband or wife is working on at work My husband and I run a business together I can't tell you what his day to day looks like If your husband goes to work, I was just saying it's kind of like, could you imagine if your wife was just like, oh, I knew exactly I can just do the job. I can be an executive producer. He told me everything, I knew the ins and the outs, That's actually not normal. That's not normal. And she's lying. She was not at that office every day. She did not know their names. and she admitted herself in the audio that I justplayed to you that she did not know their names and she needed to spend time getting to everybody's faces their names and what they were working on. So why does she lie so easily? Again, this is her new story now Forget as Aspen. they wanted everybody forget Aspen and the doctor footage. They want to move on from that. And now it's well, the whole team knew this plan This was the plan. We just didn't put Charlie didn't put it on paper. But it was the plan for me to become the first woman in human history, forget breaking the glass and shattering the glass ceiling ever History of the world to take over her husband's role as CEO and chairman having had nothing to do with the company except for helping out with faith. TP USA faith, bringing on the crappy pastors who lie about everything. That's Erica's accomplishment The relationships with people like Victor Marks and Rob McCoy even in her little My newute contribution She felt She fails. Everything that she brought forth to Turning Point USA that she was attached to and in Charlie's final presentation, which runs two and a half hours long, he doesn't say Erica's involved in everything because she's lying. He says one sentence, Erica helps out with faith that's all she did How does she do it? How does she do it Outside of being a psychopath, there's no other way that she can do it. No other woman has tried to pull this off in humanistory. That's all I'm saying. We'll be right back after a quick break. 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Average first year credit score impact of plus eighty six points between august twenty four and august twenty five for kickoff credit account users who started with score below six hundred who paid on time and who had no delencies collections added to their credit profile during the period. Late payments negatively impact your credit score, individual results may vary All right, let's check in out some of Arica's pastors for contribution to Turning Point USA. You guys are in luck actually, because today we have another installment of our smash series. Whose pastor is this where we show you clips of a Sunday sermon and try to figure out Who in America is actually spending their Sunday listening to this individual on stage reach at them. And today iss is extra special because it's Rob McCoy Aastter Rph McCoy, Mikey McCoy's daddy. brought down the house this Sunday, Maybe it was past Sunday. I don't know counter church in Vegas, you know, holy city of Vegas. And I want to thank the X user Ally topop files for putting this on my radar. That's how I saw it Anyway, you imagine you get to church, you're fired up, you're ready to hear the good word R McCoy, take it away Candace doesn't have any receipts And it's a Carnal Christian soap opera And you're suckkered into it. she's making eight hundred thousand dollars a week And you're attacking a widow O Innuendo supposition Wow speculation. And it's shameful. When you should be caring for a widow? stand it. She's going to go bankrupt. This next one with Charlie's chief of security Brian she's done But here's the thing, we ended the Salem Witch Tals in sixteen ninety two in America And it was a minister who ended them. His name was Increase Mather And they had murdered nineteen people. And you know why they did it? They had spectral evidence. You know what spectral evidence is? Charlie Charlie spoke to me. Sound familiar? Hello? Some of you don't wantanna nod because you've been watching that garbage Had a dream Spectral evidence was outlawed because the scripture said two or three witnesses Two or three witnesses Not him coming at his congregants. So we don't want to nod. We should been watching this garbage. No, they don't want to nod because this is the last time they're going to show up to this church W, please walk me through it. How does someone go on Sunday and hear a pastor just speaking about Candace Owens The lie that he is telling there eight hundred thousand dollars a week on my show You can't just be out there saying stuff like that. E Even X had to cllock him on the lie. Like no, he just wildly exaggerated that. It's kind of like his Mikey had blood all over him because they just lie. It's just crazy eight hundred thousand dollars a week. I told my team, if I was we were making eight hundred k a week I buy them all Bentleyys. I don't even like bndleies. I think's kind of an ugly car. Maybe like Range Rovers, it looks better, but Bentley like sounds more expensive or whatever. so I'd get them all Bentleys if that was the case. He's just saying stuff. How do people attend these churches and think that they are that they have anything to do with God? It' amazing to me He's talking about my lawsuits. Wh got up that morning and was like, let me church want to feel want to I want to I want to go into the day with go into the week with the energy. I want to hear the New Testament. I don't know. Who walks into that church and leaves feeling spiritually renewed Who Send me an email. I need to know who the congregants are who sat there and listen to him riff about Brian Harpool suing Candace Owens and let's feeling anything. other than like Oh I gott to go. I gota invite a new church Maybe I'm going to become path Catholic. Yeah, I love this by the way. I wish him every stage. I wish him to lie all across America. I want him to go on tour. I love Eric' very many pastors. I love Victor Marks, who says he's no longer a pastor, but he was kind of a pastor for a little bit, but he's still doing the prayers on Erica and Charlie. I love this guy, Rob McCoy, who just can't tell the truth when he hits the stage and is hoping for people to be bankrupted and is talking about the Salem witch trials. I love it all I love it all. because people wake up to the mega church and these minor pastors drifting Judeo Christianity You wake up to what it's actually about, which is just otecting theate of Israel and attacking anybody who calls them out for their various genocicides around the world. Anyway, speaking of which, I'm shocked. he didn't mention Tucker Carlson in his sermon It's usually a package deal. Tucker Carlson and Camera Swens. Eespecially because Tucker has been trending all weekend for saying the quiet part out loud regarding Charlie Kirk's death. He was on the C't be censored podcast, and here's what he had to say Well, you're never going to hear me whine about threats ever Um, to me because I got on this voluntarily. I know what the I mean, I got fired. After fifteen years, the highest rated show in American cable television. and I got fired for my opinion. So I and I'm not whining at all. I'm so grateful that I got fired. I'm just saying you it's not like I didn't know The price is, I do know what the price is. Charlie Kirk was murdered. Yeah. And he was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism, obviously. He was, I believe, and most people who knew him well as I did and was friends with him as I was believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel So I get it. I a lot's at stake. The world is at stake But from my perspective, I have a duty to say what I think is true. I'm often wrong. and I always say that because it's a fact. I have been wrong a lot and I may be wrong now But I am sincere. I'm saying what I believe is true, and I'm going continue doing that no matter what Now everyone in the entire world feels. they're asking us to look at zero plausible evidence that points to the fact that Charlie was stressed the night before over transgenderism. This isn't like, you know, Matt Walsh in what is a womoman crime Then you'd go, okay, maybe I could see a trans person. Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk murdered for his views on transgenderism when the night before he tweeted that he was left no option but to abandon the pro Israel cause because of how severely they were bullying him, threatening him using finances Night before we' talking to rabbis U you know, Israeli rabbis Josh Hammer, all of them say if they were just helping him tune his debate fine tune his debate skills because Charlie wasn't, you know, doing that for a living and smarter than every single one of these people No,, they needed they needed he needed advice night before. no You guys were all on the text chain where he said this. Your conversation clearly was related to the text that he dropped where he said, You've left me no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause. That's common sense. And you keep bragging about the fact we were the last one to talk to him. Yeah, that's the problem. He then sends a message and says they're going to kill me. We're supposed to believe that after hanging up with Josh Hammer and raabbi and the rabbi on a Zoom call, having told them that he was done being bullied because they fall into Zionists fall into all of the stereotypes We're supposed to believe that that night he texted security and said, trans person is going to murder me. No, it defies common sense. We reject it Okay, It defies everything that happened that day defies common sense. Everything you're telling us happened that data defies common sense Charlie wasn't hit with a thirty od six bullet in the neck he wasn't I'm sor didnn't happen did not happen And you know it didn't happen And Erica couldn't scramble fast enough and Tarl couldn't scramble fast enough and newew witnesses the next day at four AM in the morning saying he got shot in the neck couldn't scramble f en in my opinion. in my opinion, allegedly ends up. showh us something solid. We don't need influencers who formerly worked for the Department of War coming and making videos and telling us well, don't believe your own eyes. No, we're gonna to believe our own eyes this time We're going to believe our own eyes this time, if that's cool. And um ain't grev wid. Anyway, Blake Nf responded. I want to know why it's important that he responded to the Tucker thing, because he used to work for Tucker Carlson. and I want to say Tucker you're watching, I told you so. Tucker was so nice about Blake Nf. So nice So nice about Erica,'s nice about Lick Def. said I know I know these people blah blah Blake N. You could see how quickly he would have stabed Charlie in the back as he just stabed Tucker right into the back and he tweeted this. actuallyctually, those of us who knew Charlie best, a group that doesn't include Tucker, do think that Tyler Robinson did it and was motivated by transgender radicalism. Tucker is lying. No Blake Nf, you're lying and some audio is going to show that the majority of people at Turning Point USA don't believe Tyler Robinson did it or acted alone We' have that later this week. I know some other podcasts are working on that, namely Baron Coleman, but you're lying And the fact that you do it to cover up and you stab Tucker in the back. orr I guess, in the front in this circstance, lets us know what you would do to Charlie Kirk. You weren't one of his best friends You're like annoying person that somehow got ono his podcast and N noobbody really knows how. actuallyually. I'd like to know how Oh, I know, I was helping him with his debate points Charlie Man. After I left, he must have gotten really bad at debating. Everyone is helping us Rabbis, pastors, priests H wife, everybody was helping Charlie Kirkwann how had to debate in his like tenth year of debating on college campuses. Th those kids must have reallyally gotten wise or something He was terrified. excited the night before I thought I was gonna to die, but also very excited the night before GG up or something lo going on a lot of emotions, terrified Texting security, they're going to kill me after a day of arguing with Zionists. But he was talking about trans people, and then he was really excited the next day None of it makes sense Anyway, countering Blake obviously, is the fact that the exact opposite was said All Blake was there on Charlie's show after he died by Andrew Colvet, takeake a listen. really want people to understand Tucker You and Charlie had such a unique and special bond and relationship. It was a deep friendship and both had each other's back in my back. You had his back too. I know those stories as well Yeah. And I promised I wouldn't get into any of that. But I will say and I'm not going to, but I will say because I want this to be about Jesus and his love for Jesus and what he did to spread the word of Jesus throughout the world. But I will just say this that whenever I would come and do a gig for you guys, which was a lot because I really enjoyed it And he was so kind to invite me and defend my being there. But I would always, he's the only person I did this with alwaysways say, Hey, you know, let's like meet in my hotel room have a meal, like o I loved talking to him And it wasn't just to catch up on everything that's going on in the political world. He would always bring it back to God Every single time and it was so there's no one around Like so he didn't need to be like, oh, yeah, I really love God. like J just us. you'd be talking about that. You would come to Phoenix and you would reach out to it was like I have so many memories of Charlie being like I can, I gotta do dinner. Who are you doing dinner with?, Tuckers in town, I gott to meet with. Always, always This episode is brought to you by Starbucks. That is fire. Whoa, that's good. This might be the drink of the summer. Okay, I like this one too. I'm not with it. Okay? Try it for yourself. Starbucks refreshherers cononcentrates are coming home. Find them in the coffee aisle and make it yours. Lake Nuff is a liar He is a coward, He is a backstabber and he is made of the stuff You would expect from a person who would betray Charlie. You proved yourself to be a deceitful traitor pretending he was not close to Tucker Carlson. Everybody knows, but he was close to Tucker Carlson He he provided with him It' like everybody knows that me and Charlie were friends. You guys are trying to rewrite his history while we watch live and we're not gonna to stand it You're trying to rewrite history and make it so that his close friends were Josh Hammer, Laura Loomer Jigsaw Okay, saaw face, you're now allowing to kind of edge into and pretend that he was her advisor. He came to me for advice about the woke right He was upset about Tucker Carlson and confided into Bora Boomer Are you guys out of your minds? How do you live with yourselves? How do you do it? I want to understand it. How do you guys wake up in the morning and look yourselves in the mirror knowing that you didn't just betray Charlie, You betray him every single day, every single moment, and the entire world knows it Every time Blake Neff opens his mouth, a conspiracy theorist gets his winks That's a fact. An absolute fact people are just spicable. Oh, Charlie Cannison speak since twenty nineteen You liars seending people out to write hppieies is trying to just I can't even imagine having passed away and watching my worst enemies be given my legacy by my own wife, by my own wife yielding the stage to Ben Shapiro like we were going to allow that. We're not going to allow it I said from the very beginning of this entire thing, I want war with all of you, and I'm so glad that I'm getting it We'll be right back after a break All right, you guys, do you owe back taxes? Do you have maybe years of unfiled returns? Maybe you file every year and still can't get ahead because the balance keeps growing. Maybe you withdrew money from a four hundred one K or an IRA and suddenly got hit with a tax bill that you never expected Whatever caused the problem, one thing is certain. 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So call American Financing today at eight hundred seven nine five, twelve ten. Again, that's eight hundred seven nine five, twelve ten Or visit Americanfinancing d. net slash Owens. Again, that's Americanfinancing d. net slash Owens All right, you guys, top comment from the last episode is by just focusing on who killed Charlie Kirk, you have discovered there's so much more going on in our corrupt government. You know, my sense is just it's global trafficking. I think Charlie was invited to join the Gobal trafficking ring. That's my opinion based on everything that I have seen That's what it looks like to me. And through the mechanism of churches and megaach churches, a lot of that global trafficking has been covered think while you still can suring the void rights, Erica could clear up a lot of speculation in a single afternoon. She has now spent nine months proving that she won't. Erica cannot do that because she is not intelligent enough to hold to be hosted for an interview. That's not scripted. She can't sit there and answer questions. If you think that girl is capable of what Charlie was capable of watching his last presentation just how quickly his mind worked. If you think that that girl can speak to you or answer basic questions about a balance sheet, you're an idiot. She just no idea what's going on. She is what she's always been. Pageant girl tell her her lines that she has to remember and she can utter them back to you. And usually it's not with perfection. Usually she slips up even with the lines that have been prewritten for her. And I know for a fact that in past interviews, scripts were handed to her before she went out at the very beginning of this thing It's a fact. Not a suspicion, a fact Mikey McCoy, Stacy Sheridan, they have been the directors helping Erica memorize her lines That is not a real person, That is not a real reaving widow. and I simply don't care. Anyway, I want to move on also to this, I want to show you guys quick get this email that we got another email regarding Pet and. we're taking a look at what happens at the Fort Ouca Base, and you do a little bit of research. But this person wrote, Hey, Candace, I'm not sure if you'll ever even read this because I know you're busy, but I have some information and opinions to give you on the mic My boyfriend and I both work with explosive explosives. we both are military EOD exxplosive ordnance disposal texts, which is more commonly known as military bomb texts Anyway, as far as the petin, we pronounce it petin, thank you for telling me. It's the main component in military and commercial blasting caps. Each blasting cap has less than one gram of petin and deals major damage We have seen so many videos and know people who are missing fingers or went blind from mish handandling these blasting caps. Anyway, I'm not sure about the Tennessee explosion that you were talking about, but I know that it's very easy to either make your own explosives or steal from the military, police, or commercial areas. As far as the shaped charge, it is very common in IEDs and copper is the most common, but to give you a sense of how easy it is, you can use a wine bottle to make one as well I know this won't help progress your theories, but me, along with my tech friends all believe it was the mic We could definitely be biased since we deal with IEDs, but I just thought that you should know that a lot of people who deal with rifles, explos and explosives and improvised explosives do not believe it was from a gun. Please reach out if you have any questions. Thank you. Like I said, we've been receiving tons of these emails from people in the military. And the reason why I show you these things are people that deal with explosives is You're going to have to contend with a bunch of morons on the internet telling you that it's not possible. They they have no idea what they're talking about. They didn't even watch the episode. They just kept m their marching orders and try to make it seem as though it's not possible for a shaped charge to come out of something that is the size of the beeper. It's actually what the Israelis specialize in, as I've demonstrated to you guys, and this to me is the theory that has the most legs and we will be continuing spend time on it because every single piece of the puzzle comes together when you imagine that he was actually taken out by his redundant mic. characters that were around him sort of boiling the frog and getting him accustomed to having that redundancy, which was not a feature when I toured with Charlie for five years s all I'll say Anyway, a couple more comments say I think we are over time. U scrolling down, who do we have We have US flagpole guy writes, Brian Harple brought Charlie's bag to Seaan like a cat brings a mouse to its owner. Why was it not in evidence? Great question, which I asked, whyy was not in evidence, but nothing went to evidence. The microphone didn't go into evidence. It went, you know for a photo op with Erica in front of donors as she raised forty million dollars at Mar a Lago. Everything was just sort of conveniently given back a turning point. US say Charlie's Kirk Trucker's phone should have been kept into evidence. It wasn't. It was given back, as we know, very quickly, returned to Erica. and that is why they needed to brand her as a grieving widow so people wouldn't ask these sorts of common sense questions. Why is evidence being handed back to his wife es't make any sense I J Jenna writes, Happy Father's Da George, I love the stories that you share and the pickics of the kids. You two are great parents. We also just really love being parents. if you can't tell, baby number five. ourur kids are just the best. I know I'm biased, but somebody actually has to have the best kids. and I think it's us. They're just awesome, they're fun, they're social, they're very funny And they have such a great sense of humor and they just they just make it all worth it ust H happppy writes I knew it. conongratulations, Queen Candace, Christ is king indeed. What a blessing. Yes, it is a blessing. and you guys did know. I don't know how you knew before I knew, but I must have a really bad attitude. When I'm pregnant with these boys, it's now a frat house, by the way. I'm raising a little army three hundred style. so I wouldn't Cabot Phillips. I'll see you when I see you on the playground. Les is Moe, Richie writes, Your show titles and your sense of humor are unrivaled. I love how you turn the tables on the trolls. My college aged son sent posts and asked momom, haveave you seen this? Could it be true? I said, I don't underestimate Candace, G max, Chrisis King. Yes, know, this world is crazy and a part of it is psychological and they're always playing these games and wanting you to be fearful to live your life. lifeife is short We've learned that lesson from Charlie and so live it fully Live your life fully, say what you want, do things that actually matter, tell the truth. as Tucker Carlson stipulates. He is in a position where he is required to tell the truth and not to give into this nonsense. There's a lot of money to spend nonsense I'll tell you what I might make eight hundred thousand dollars a week if I flip sides I hear it's going around showhow faith by Works. I bet I could get eight hundred thousand dollars per a week if I lied to you and told you not to think and spun crap to you like no, it's a modern day miracle. Th o six just gets stopped and bounces down and ricochets and then explodes into somebody's stomach and you just ate it What a blessing. likeike I could do that But I can't I actually can't do that, least of all when I'm pregnant with a boy I can't do it Lindseay Coum Wrightes just remember there is no honor among thieves. I am so excited to see who folds and how quickly they all turn on each other and play victim. I wonder who it will be first. I love your show, your mission, your passion, and your commitment. Thank you. If I had to guess it would be Blake Nf because he's a weasel but I'm just guessing Natalie Chenita writes congrats for baby number five. Thank you so much. Ali writes In Erica's Father's D post she wrote you would always mention more fog, more spparklers and she used a clip of Charlie at a TP USA event with Sparklers. She literally use a Father's Day post for PR purposes because she gets heat for the sparklers. I know, I know. I actually mentioned it to my team if you go back. She pretends she doesn't watch everything, but she watches every minute of everything and every crrison that's being lodged at her because she always tries to wrap it into every public appearance to respond to it. L even in this recent one, she was like The kids were dropped off at their grandma's house because people were saying that she doesn't have the best relationship with Charlie's parents. I bet in this upcoming hearing that what is it now? is it this week? the Tyler Robinson hearing is or is it in July Whenever it was bumped to, that she's going to be there because people have been saying it's weird that she's never been to any of the hearings at all If your husband was assassin and you want to attend, I bet you she will go to the next one because She's a psyopath. so she edits her behavior according to what the public says, and she thinks that she can then sell that as if we're not onto her game, while simultaneously claiming that she doesn't listen to the comments and the naysayers don't get to her until she comes in like Janet Jackson calling out Drusky a joke while forgiving Tyler Robinson and throw my name in it for no reason. Well Call my name, I might just be here. I'm here, Erica, and I'm just done, I'm done with Turningpoint USA. The lies are just getting to a point like we're not rewriting history. where Laura Loomer is a friend of his and Tucker Carlson was not That's done Anyway guys you would like to support the show, you can head to our website and buy new merch. I think people are saying that we need We need Blakey Nef merch. I don't know what I said that people want the merch about 'causeuse he just gets me so fired up. I don't know what I say half the time. It's like a surge of like way energy that's I don't know. I don't understand it physiologically speaking why this happens to me why I want to do hood rat stuff with my friends When I'm pregnant C cant I just do one of those people that just cries at the drop of a hat and just cries all the time. I want to be one of those people. I was more emotional when I was pregnant with my daughter. I didn't wantan to fight people, that's for sure U I don't know, guys There are things we don't know and we can never know. But if you'd like to support the show, head out to the website, get some merch easiest way to do it. Join the book Club. head to cananisones. com. I think it's slash book Club and yeah Anyway. I have a lot more to tell you guys. Another tidbit, another person who has a memory about Eric Kir Kirk working for the models as their realtor, but I'm going tell you that tomorrow We will see you then

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