Reflecting on Childhood Trauma and Abuse

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That's should I do and I'm having a really bad day It's okay, though, because what we've done is we have since filed an FOIA request for the relative White House correspondence dinner emails. I think we're going to get lucky Anyway for today, we're not gonna to focus on that instead. We are going to bring you a conversation with the man, the myth, the legend, Victor Marks, Subernatorial candidate for Colorado, a fascinating guy, right? You gotta just admit. he's fascinating. Another dare I say troubled faith leader tied to Turning Point USA. I mean, this could be the dawn of a new series. Fantastic pastors and where to find them. Welcome back to Candice Okay, so we're not exactly bearing the lead. As I said today, we are going to be joined by Victor Marks, Colorado's guubernatorial candidate. But I want to at first provide you with the refresher about who he is and why I am interested in him. Victor Ms is very much a part of the turning pointint faith orbit He is apparently extraordinarily close to Erica Kirk, right? So much so that he was the first that we could find to publicly announce that Charlie Kirk had passed away on september tenth on social media, I believe it was on Instagram. It was an hour and a half before the president of the United States made the announcement, even though he has since deleted Instagram post We then know that when Erica came home after bringing back Charlie's body in a casket aboard Air Force II, Victor Marks and his wife, Eileen, were among the small circle of people who were welcomed into Erica's home to comfort her and to take photos of the grieving widow. Eventually, those photos were shared on the internet I am also informed that he presented her with a bullet proof car, transportation. He alluded to that in the Instagram post, getting her home, providing transportation to keep her and her children safe. So we can ask him about that. And shortly thereafter, Victor Marks announced that he was running for governor of Colorado callalling that he felt came from God in the wake of Charlie's assassination. But who actually is Victor Marks? I'm getting old, you're getting old. Our memory is fuzzy. Let me give you a little bit of a recap I've already told you his real name is Von Victor Kennedy, that's his birth name at least. And he has told a lot of stories about his childhood, namely surrounding his stepfather, Gloce Dean Kennedy, abuse that he says that he endured at the hands of Gloyce, which that abuse began when Victor was just three years old. I'm going to show you more about what he says about that in a bit What we do know about his stepfather is that Gloyce did serve in the Army doing counter intelligence. He then plleed guilty to a conspiracy to of running an international drug smuggling ring marijuana out of Jamaica Victor's brother, Mike Kennedy also pled guilty as a co conspirator, but he took a plea deal in exchange for testifying against his his stepfather. Victor Markx' biological dad was Carl Markx. What a name. He was a pimp, a drug dealer, and a world famous martial arts expert, I am told Victor Marks is in fact very good at martial arts, by the way. Now in terms of his biological father, his biological father spent time in a mental hospital for homicidal tendencies, something that Victor Marks has expressed that he has experienced as well d during a period of his life Victor's grandfather I told you killed His grandmother So his grandfather killed his grandmother in a public murder suicide. you're gonna hear about Victor Marks's life. Some highlights, I would say, age three, beheaded a cat Age seven, Victor Marks killed his first person because his step dadd he told him to. By the time he was seventeen, he had lived in seventeen homes and attended fourteen schools, was involved with drugs, fights and theft in high school at eighteen Victor joined the Marine Corps, served for two years before he was discharged At twenty one, he says he found Jesus and he started attending Calvary Chapel Church, my favorite church Bve ten out of ten, Calvary Chapel church, deffinitely the pastors twenty three. married his wife Eileen. Eileen Breeding Marks and they went on to have five kids and grandkids In two thousand three, he and his brother began all things possible ministries. In twenty twenty three Eileen's brother. Kenneth Bryaning to shoot Victor Ms on Victor's property Fortunately, Victor survived that, but Eileen's brother would go on to kill his own girlfriend. Not really sure what's going on with this family, but it's a lot Like I said, he announced his candidacy for Governor of Colorado on october first. So ob that's the reason why his background is now being called into question. It's quite mysterious. And he began teasing that run at the Memorial Service for Charlie Kirk, just four days after Charlie's death. By the way, you don't have to take these biographical items from me. You can also hear Victor Marks. He has not been shy about sharing his story. Take a listen to him. tellell about how he grew up I room' sitting on the ground where my arm still tied to the bed post And then he brought a An animal and a dead cat And he had a knife and he said I want you to cut the head off this cat And I I terrified. And he said, if you don't, I'll cut your head off So A three? Yeah, aboutout three and a half. I used a knife, cut the cat's head off And then he put the carcass on my head and blood dripped down on me So that was the first really memory that I have of Well, it would be the beginning of a lot of abuse. My stepfather put one hand on my wrist And he put his finger over my trigger finger And then he pushed and I pulled And um I shot the guy in his head and it killed him And he shoved them in the hole and he buried them He wrapped the pistol with a handkerchief And he said, if you ever tell anybody what I've done He said, I know where this body is They said, I'll tell the police. It's your fingerprints on this pistol And he says, they'll arrest you. they'll put you in prison. I remember being at a mor again wrapped to a chair and watching them dismember a corpse And then watching them burn it and I've dealt with thousands of demons now, thousands easily. I've had demons speak to me through people at one, just are saying, I'm effing. I will effing and kill you. I will murder you. I'm like, shut up. No you won't. You're being judged right now Stop using this man's voice. overver a hundred missions, complete Would trauma care or help over forty five thousand women and children? Jan, because of our access and our relationships with the special operating community and the IDF They took it from the places no one could go. And they showed us things that Hamas and many Palestinians would say it's just propaganda or lie.. Yeah. I let him hold a grenade for his birthday. This guy's trying to kill me. If he comes out of the trailer and if he takes that corner, I'm going to kill him. please preray yourself. And I remember her going, what? They diagnosed me with bipolar two, ultradpeed cycler and put them in a lot of meds. There wasn't any help or hope beyond that. I was just spinning suicidal, homicidal. On the medications I was suicidal and probably more homicidal Now I would be remiss if I didn't also add that Victor Marks is very much involved in human trafficking, charity all around the world. becausecause all of Erica Kirk's deearest friends are, as I've mentioned on this show, it just seems to be one of the running themes Anyway, as you know, we hosted Corby Hall, who claimed that Victor Mararkx was doing some deals or attempting to do some deals on behalf of the IDF. He never said those deals were illegal, just that he declined to participate in them. y trying to buy fifty thousand guns for the IDF. We'll ask Victor Marks about that Um Now his relationship, Victor Markx' relationship with the IDF is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact. As you just heard him speak about it, we have also confirmed that Victor Marx conducts this quote unquote retooling prayer. where he claims that he is able to summon demons into a room out of a person's body on more than J just Corby Hall and his wife and other people as well. In fact, I am told that he was once conducting such prayers turning pointint USA headquarter office. That's an interesting thing And this is odd because Victor Mars is not a pastor actually has claimed to be a pastor throughout the years, according to many people. Proof of that exists on his own website, by the way, that it used to say that he was a husband, a father, a U. S. Marine, a pastor That has since been quietly removed Corby Hall, you should know, is one of many people who have accused Victor Marks of abuse When these allegations tend to arrive, Victor Marx always rebuts them with the same line person making the allegations is troubled that he was just trying to help them or rescue them from themselves. Corby Hall. He has said has mental issues. Um There are other people outside of Corby Hall. For example, a young woman named Holly Calmers or chalmers accused him of kidnapping her across state lines and of exploiting her Victor Marks claims that he was actually rescuing her from her pedophile boyfriend U This is what she had to say in her own words. Take a listen What do you want our listeners to know about Victor Marks, the man that you believe that he is and the experience that you had with him I believe that he's a trafficker himself This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a fifty page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online makes sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responssees setup required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus That's interesting because that's a question we've been asking on this show. All of these trafficking charities, what are they involved in themselves? I don't know Anyway, Victor Marks' own son wrote a letter to the board on a company that Victor was a part of, accusing his father abusing both him and his sister Victor Markx's daughter made multiple social media posts confirming that he was in fact an abusive father despite her not having wanted the information to be publicized in the first place. Here's a sample of what she wrote on social media. She wrote On april twenty sixth of this year, a letter was sent to my dad's board sharing detailed events, revealing that I experienced abuse at the hands of my father for many years and that there needed to be accountability and financial restitution was being recommended. I had no idea about this letter and I would even do a lie detector test to prove that There was zero intention of the letter and the private matters to be made public That was even stated in the letter. My parents did not handle this letter well and immediately requested the requests in the letter to be retracted or there would be quote unquote consequences. My dad's CEO reached out to me after my father's request for this to be retracted, offering me fifty five thousand dollars as essentially Be quiet, money I declined the offer and requested that we all do intense family therapy and intervention Now to be clear, she eventually is going to recant many of these allegations Her friends privately emailed this show and asserted that, no, she was telling the truth about her father and her upbringing and that it was only due to financial pressure and control that Victor Marks apparently allegedly holds over her life in the wake of her divorce from her husband that she is singing a different tune publicly. I cannot confirm that. We do're not speaking to his daughter today we're speaking to Victor Marks We can only confirm Abuse allegations tend to follow victor marks both at home and abroad We have also been contacted, I should say, by families by family members of Victor Markx himself who claim that his entire backstory of stuff he is saying about his stepfather simply is not true He was not forced to kill anybody, that there are no bodies in the backyards of their farms. that his stepfather Gloyce was indeed a crazy man that he did not abuse those kids Fortunately, like I said, we will be joined by Victor Markx himself when we get back from break All right, you guys, some moments change everything. and for a woman facing an unexpected pregnancy, seeing her baby on an ultrasound and hearing that tiny heartbeat can turn fear into hope. 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I'd like to guide this conversation sort of in order, meaning starting a little bit with your background. I think I have a lot of questions about some of the stories that you've shared. and I did I was able to speak to some of your family members. and they seem to have some questions about some of the biographical items that you share So just beginning with I think sort of the inflection points, this story about beheading a cat and wearing its head at the age of three. I mean, it's Not an easy thing to be headad of cat. I I have a lot of toddlers Do you stand by that Let's start with, I think what's most relevant right now Are the latest accusations by your last guest, Corby which is I think what brought us together on this whole issue uh in what we're going to discuss in the time I'm giving you freely to talk about some things Are you willing to admit when you're wrong? or you've been misguided So Victor, just you know, you're on my show. I'm not on yours. So I'm going to guide the conversation. I said I'm happy to speak about Corby. There There are broader concerns, actually, the way that my highest interest in you is obviously as it relates to Charlie Kirk and your involvement with Turning Point USA I realize that Yeah you're right. S speak about Corby, but you know isn this isn't your stage. So respectfully, I do want to you are running for governor. so I think your biography is important. Obviously, the Corby Hall stuff is important. And if something is wrong, we're happy to correct it. We did invite you to come on the show with Corby, which we asked you to do because that made the most sense because you guys could rebut each other face to face. You declined to do that Cby had the stage for himself, and I could not offer a rebuttal because I wasn't there for the conversations So the answer the answ is yes,. I want to start with your biographical items. Do you stand by that story inflection point Canas, we have to start with what brought me here, which is Corby And I clearly communicated to you and your staff Do not have him on, do your research because he's unstable And the very person that platformed in before you Corory has flled out a statement both with local authorities and FBI He is homicidal And he told her and her husband, that he had plans to kill me And she felt responsible for it being feled And Your name was brought up as he's aggravated. somethingomething about he didn't get what he wanted out of your show I need you to at least acknowledge Cy contact Yll not Corby, but did Cy contact Yll with the concerns of not platforming Corby again You brought up homicidal. That's actually something that you just you said in the clip that we just showed that you yourself have had homicidal thoughts. Do you still have homicidal thoughts Wh' that appeiod in your life That was a long time ago and I'm thankful. I didn't Currently, this gentleman is being sought by the FBI and El Paso County Sheriff's Department who admitted Cy, the individual who platformed them on your show. that he was struggling with homicidal thoughts and he gave detailed plans on how he was going to lay in wait Kill me re you That's not anything that we have heard on the show. So like I said, we can't rebut on that. We received only a message from Corey that she got a phone call from the FBI and that they were investigating you for gun rununning. Did she inform you of this? I don't know. I would really like to go back to the biographical items though of your life. I don't want to get into background investigations. I was not contacted by the FBI. I can't verify it. And as I said, we can discuss Corby's allegations. but I would like to begin with just the cat. Did you behead the cat at the age of three? Do you stand by that story Did your team View social media as y'all are aa investigative team By all your allegations Did you see Corey's public statement about what happened and how this is very serious cannot locate this individual you platform Corby Hall And both his wife Victor, I just reb but you here and say that I don't necessarily trust what you are saying given the fact that you don't want to answer just basic biological questions. and after having spoken with your family members who say that it's largely made up, I have no reason to believe anything that you're saying right now. So I'd like to just kind of focus on your character. We can talk about Corby. I have nothing to do with any pending investigations. I have not been contacted by law enforcement been cont H you been c Candace, you seem to be a little afraid of truth And what I once thought was a solid show years ago You've turned this into a TMZ. And Wstson TM Z is like a T new version of it. I'm asking you, did your staff not see the statement that Cy Kennedy posts it online We're talking about a homicidal individual who has threatened to kill me And your name was B I have answered your question. I have not seen it. So I cannot have a conversation with you about that. What I can have a conversation with you about is the statements that you have publicly made since you are joining the show. And I would like to focus on your biographical items because as I said, I've spoken with your family in Martinville and they claim that your stories are fantastical. So I'm just asking you And we can then get into some questions about the alleged gun sales that you were trying to conduct with Corby, which is what we discussed on the show and which we have seen evidence for. I cannot speak to you about something a report that I have not seen that you claim is happening. and I would like to just kind of get focused because you're running on the. I don't think thatby I don't think that Cbyall is that all the. R one you Thank. is my number one issue right now. This is your number one issue for the state of Colorado Corby is the number one issue right now who's homicidal and admitted he wanted to kill me and how he was going to do it That's why authorities are looking for him. Well I'm of people that are watching this. I cannot confirm anything that Victor Markx is saying. I have not said it. I think he is using my platform to potentially spin some tails. The only thing that I heard was that there was an FBI investigation that was looking into you for guns. And that's all I've heard, and I'm not interested in that. I would like to now, since you have the stage focus on you as a gubernatorial candidate and your background. And so if I could go back to that guess or no question, do you stand by this story that you beheaded a cat at the age of three Of course I do, but we're happy to give you the FBI's agent's name who is in charge of the investigation and moved it here Regarding my Marine Corps time This is one of the most flgrrant misnumbers that you have that really made us go I don't think they're very professional in their investigations. You claimed without a doubt that only served two years in the Marine Corps Do you stand by that That was what we could find. I'm happy to edit that if you'd like to give us an updated answer Well was two much ed. It was three years and it was on the DD two fourteen. So you read misinformation with great confidence and said what was he doing? which shows a lack of professionalism that y'all can't even read a DD two hundred fourteen. So You know what? I'd appreciate an apology from you on Miss representing my service to the United States when I served in the Marine Corps. Will you offer me an apology for that? I think this was just sort of a clerical error that could just have been It's not cleical right here. Like I said, you could come on the show and we could talk about your biography. So Well now you know you oe some emotional apology. It was not emotional it was two years. You misrepresented my Marine Corps time I would appreciate an apology. I'm not going to apologize to you for that. I think a little bit over the top. We were going to believe me around the country would stand with me Veterans don't like to be misrepresented and you or misrepresenting my time and service in the Marine Corps And you won't offer We are happy to updateire for here humanity Won't take note of that. Thank you No problem. We're just happy to correct the error that we've made. We said two years and he says it's three fourteen says three years and it is a big deal, Candidus, don't minimize my military service Okay, I was not minimizing it. I legitimately thought it was two and we stand correct. And off an apology I'm not going to apologize to you, Victor. I sense that you are quite arrogant and you're used to being in control of not used you. I am a true not I'm not that individual someone who is just lamb based, innocent people U As an internet bully, you're not used to someone come on the show holding your feet to the fire My feet don't feel like they're held to the fire at all. I think you're kind of representing yourself as a little all over the place and unable to just present not at all' very items as I'm giving you the opportunity to do. I'm asking questioning you so that we can have an honest conversation and it's not another Tu TMZ approach. Okay. You've done that cool line twice, Tamu TMZ I see, you had that right to go in the chamber. Let's move on Let's talk about let's talk about your stepfather. You also claim that you killed a man at the age of seven because he instructed you to do that and buried him in the backyard. Your family disputes that neighborhood. They also noted that there are no news stories that would even back up that a man was missing. It's quite a rural community. Martonville Mississippi if someone went missing that might have been noticed. What the name of What was the name of the person that you said that you walked in and told the police that You murdered, however, many years ago because your father forced you to What was the name of the town you just mentioned? Is is this Martinville, Mississippi No, it's not Where did you didn't grow up in Martinille, Missipp No, I did not. Where did you grow up I think you could at least find that out from reading my book or watching our documentary Would you like wouldould you like to are you familiar with Mississippi at all Cour on you Okay, by getting the name of the town wrong, do you want to just tell us as opposed to trying to do a dunking on Where in Mississippi did you grow up? Ma'am, you're accusing me of it I'm not telling the truth on things. No, I'm just saying you you said you murdered a manana. If you could tell us what town that was in, that'd be helpful It's in interviews I've done It's in Our documentary And I'm telling you, if you can at least get the town that I'm in How can we trust you with more information that you're bringing? The bigger thing is the homicide that was committed, so can we can scrap about the town later if you don't want to say it. Are you saying you murdered a man anywhere in the fifty states? Can you give us the name of the man that you were forced to murder didn't know who he was You didn't know who he was. Okay, and you walked into a police station with this information and we're told it doesn't it doesn't matter anymore, Is that correct? Is that your assumption that I walked into it? Police station, Where did you hear that that you confessed to well the reason why we know this information at all is because you've shared it publicly and said that Okay, so why don't you reshare the story and what's happened with that story since? Well why don't you present it accurately so what point if he had you on the show and giving you the platform is not so that you can quiz me on your background, but rather so that you could just answer the questions and share the story in its correct context with the right city. So we don you don't have to worry about misinformation because you have a platform right now. Go ahead. Well, Candace, I have a platform without you. We have four million followers and listen I've been on much bigger programs than years I don't need yours to clarify what we're doing But what you're doing is making slanderers accusations that are incorrect at the very basic level So no, I did not walk into a police station called the Sheriff Department. and made the claim Many years later, does that help Certainly does help. Thank you for being able to just answer something and doing a quick fix there. Do not everything has to take five minutes. You called the shheriff's department rather than walked into it. Thank you so much.. Your. What happened after that, Victor Wound Let me ask you this before I go on, haveave you ever been abused as a kid Um Have I you asking me if I've ever beheaded a cat? No, I'm asking you, have you ever suffered physical or sexual abuse as a kid I would say that it would be a little bit more extreme if you say that you murdered someone. L that's extreme abuse versus being That's not correct, but that's not what I asked you. I ask you personally, have you ever been physically or sexual abuse as a kid? I have not been I have no, I have not suffered from sexual abuse I am happy you have not Now what we're entering into now, we must be very careful because what and who I represent are millions of both kids and adults who've suffered abuse in no way Do I want to make minimum of this or make it some type of ratings for you. I've shared my story. As an adult regarding my childhood in the abuse that I suffered from three to seven years. what I'm telling you is that your family members dispute it. So it's not about a TV moment. It's about me having spoken to your family members who say that this never happened. So that is of interest obviously, because you not really be want to be the governor of Colorado. So you figuring out whether or not you tell fantastical stories or whether or not you're able to tell the truth is kind of important for voters, I would say. And I'm inclined to think and whoppers because the trying to make it emotional and say, well, have you ever suffered sexual abuse? We're talking about a homicide, okay? So I don't know that there are many people who can say that I had to kill someone or behead a cat when I was seven years old and bury the body in the backyard feels like an extreme example. Lots of abuse takes place, sexual abuse takes place. I've heard many of these stories. I would like to this is actually very important if this is an unsolved crime. you don't know who this man is Where did this I'd like to just tell a little bit more about what the sheriff said to you when you called and said that you's interesteresting though that you're claiming my family members. from Martinville, Louisiana. C claimed this never happened I am six years old and never once has my family refuted any of this As a matter of fact My sister was on my documentary film, The Victor Mart Story, which folks can watch. It's a documentary on YouTube And she actually completely solidifies the abuse because she went through it. So did other family members. So I'm not sure who you're talking to. Are you rec calling to Gherermaine? I am not Which systemar are you referring to Debbie I didn't speak. I did not speak with Debbie So Chhermaine, if you spoke with Termmaine, she is my half sister Who is the daughter of the abuser, Gloris Dine Kennedy And I've tried to protect her because she has children I've tried to protect the family that still carries Kennedy's name out of just U I think caring for people and My sister has struggled in her life with things including You know, a fiancee committed suicide It's sad that so much of our problems stem from horrible abuse from her blood biological father So I'm sorry about that. But but also somebody could be missing a relative that got murdered So I do think it is relative like to you running course for governor to know why a sheriff as you tell it, would decline to look into the matter if someone was killed and buried in your backyard. Right, right here at our leadeership traraining center. We've got members from ICAC, We've got atttorney General folks. we've got investigators We've got analysts and detectives come here to our training center for A retreat, we bring people in I work by through and with law enforcement I have MOUs with them I work to become the man that I wish someone had been when I was a kid to protect me What I'm saying and when we talk about kids suffering abuse or in my case, abuse and then forced to shoot someone Yes I was older in life before I went to the police. because it's a horrific thing to deal with the reason why It is a codld case. It was forty years old We don't know where the house is. We don't know where he was buried We don't know who the victim was And my grand my father It was my stepfather at the time He was put in prison. for unrelated charges to murder, but it was sadly drrug use and bringing it in But There's there's a code case. They could not find anything At least I went to them to decar my conscious. because I suffered for years thinking that I had killed a person You don't know where the house is, you said, right? No, no, I was brought there at night. I was seven years old And I was forced to lie in the back of a car And do you know which city it was in? just out of curiosity Uh There were two towns or sister towns, Men and Hall and McGee It was in one of those. Yeah, in Simpson County, Mississippi Feel free to contact the Cf department Okay, thank you. I wanted to know about this u Who authorized you to be able to Smmon demons or exorcise demons. Youve told many stories about confronting demons, demanding to know what their names are. Wh did you receive that sort of training? Be you don't say you're a pastor. Now Is that right? I was in ministry and I tried being a pastor, but I wasn't called to it. I was caught more to Be, I would say, a unique evangelist that help people around the world Now, as we step into this realm of spiritual warfare, I have to ask you just for clarity so I know how to communicate it best to you. Are you a Christian or a believer in Christ? Yes Do you believe the Bible would be the inereit Od of God to cut through what I think you're perhaps getting at I I think you and I would probably have different faith beliefs if that's what you are interested in Yeah, what's what's Yeah I think that you is it fair to assume that evangelical Calvary Chapel? Are you evangelical, is that correct I am a born again believer In Christ. Okay So I'm Catholic. so the idea of you not being a priest and being able to exorcise demons is something that I'm interested in. So I would just like to know sort of granted you that authority. When did you start doing that Well, you believe in good and evil, right Mhm. And do you believe that demons actually exist? Of course. us and what I've studied in the word and over the years is demons' main focus is to attack a human's mind through lies The Bible says that Satan is the father of lies. And that's what often compels and then drives people to do things They probably would never do otherwise I was very interested in this as a new believer in the Marine Corps to find out why are people so evil Why did such horrible things happen to me as a kid And the only way that I got a solid world view is to understand Good and evil exist And that is why Christ came to earth And then that through his word and what he said and his death on the cross, we could be born again We could be set free from our old nature, not We're made perfect before God, but we still have to live our life out and it's not in perfection. He gave us all authority He said, I give you authority T. trample serpents to cast out demons And I actually believe it So what really put me in that place was my I think my introduction to helping kids who are in youth prisons struggled tremendously Oftentimes killed kids who had killed Murdered right tortured people, I dealt with some of the most severe Um Cases And why God put me there? I don't know. He just gave me a love for him to bring him hope And it was there that many of them asked for prayer And when I prayed for them, they would often manifest demonic influence or oppression. And the Lord taught me how to pray with authority I go into detail about it There's a film that we made that clearly communicates Well, we believe our position is in Christ, our authority is in Christ and how to set people free and tried the difference between me and Maybe others You know, I've done stuff as there We don't charge people to set them free. We do this out of love.'s no financial benefit for it, especially kids who are incarcerated But I have over six thousand letters. here in our headquarters of kids that we've written correspondent back and forth really were helped in this. So while I believe in The the power of Christ and the Word of God, and I appreciate the Catholic church in their hierarchy of who can and can't Um, you know, pray for and do exorcisms Um I didn't have access to that And I started dealing with a lot of people and I have over the years You bring up Cory and his wife Melody, if you talk to her She says me praying for which didn't take long. We're talking. T ten, fifteen minutes is average time of prayer It's not dramatic Nobody's hurt. There's not manifestation. It's just using the power of Christ praying for someone And we love and care for them. Be that's what Christ You do say that you can command the demons and that you can speak to the demons and ask the demons what their names are and thingssolutely you believe you can do that I believe I can do what Christ did and said we would do also. He was the one that spoke directly to demons Tell them where to go. He's the one that asked them their name. Yeah He's Christ. Yeah Yeah And he said My followers would be able to even do more than me I'll tell you I just believe it and we've seen it. Thousands of people And again, there's a film we encourage people to watch. They can watch it for free. It's the Unseen war. And churches use that. peopleople of all faith Use that to understand that there actually really is power And I've prayed for people who are believers, nonbelievers, Muslims It doesn't matter Humanity is under I'm happy to accept that that's your your philosophy but you also believe that you can command angels I believe that Angels are assigned to us and that we can by the authority of Christ, man angels to help us in whatever we're doing, I do believe that into rooms, and you do this like prayer circle And you don't feel weird about doing that, having people out in front of you and sa itbodying demons Nobody their names that feels Nobody bends down in front of me No one even has to close their eyes when we pray We record every session on audio or video so that they can have it. so there's no miscommunication. And I don't know You have to look at the fruit of what happens people being set free like Corby's wife Melalody. She said she had struggled with thoughts in her mind negativeness since she was six. And when I prayed for her No And she said she was set free, it saved her life. So I don't know how that could be so wrong I could think of a lot of ways that it could be wrong, but I don't want to debate your theology. I just want you to have the opportunity to explain it, which I think you did I do want to move on now to getting into some turningpoint USA stuff. So I had heard from Turningpoint USA people that you also were doing Payers at the headquarters. like you had a room where you would conduct some prayers, Is that correct I definitely prayed for a couple of people there. Yeah, sure. includcing you Pray over Charlie and Erica Kirk in one of these p I prayed for Charlie. Yes, I did. he asked me to And did you do this sort of a retooling angels demon sort of prayer over him and Erica Just Charlie, he asked me to Okay, and they were they gave you an office to do this. Is that right U, I prayed for him in his office and also other people at Turningpoint USA outside of Charlie I think there were three other people that I prayed for that asked for that. Yeahah Okay. How did you meet Charlie and or Erica I was speaking at an event at a small Hispanic church in California And Charlie was scheduled to speak and the pastor asked me last minute to speak, I did And it was before Charlie. He was a little aggravated that there was another speaker before him. This was a Sunday morning And I knew about Chorda, but never met him And after I spoke, he spoke And then we met back in the loop Makeshift dreen room. And he says, I've never heard of you, but I'm absolutely encourage to hear your testimony and what God's done in your life and He wanted me to have his number and stay connected, so we did That's how it started And was that when he was already married to Erica? or was that a little bit before? Yes, he was already married to Erica Did you meet them both at the same time or met her a bit later No, she was there Somebody at Turning Point also conveyed to me and again, this could be inaccurate, which is why I'm asking you that there was this falling out period that you and Charlie did have a little bit of a falling out. Is that correct? No You never had a falling out with Charlie No No It might have been they might have had the wrong in and I heard her saw that you said he unfollowed me U or we unfollowed each other Somebody asked me that in another interview, I made them open up their phone, go to Instagram Go on Charlie's and see if he was following me. You can do it right now He still follows me They said it was a period. was The person had said it was a period. they weren't saying that it was forever. I was just f I ask you about that. Yeah. No. We never had a falling out Okay. So obviously a big question that we have had is you were first to post a video that was later on removed saying that Charlie had passed and this video was about an hour and twenty minutes before the presresident's announcement Um it would have been to the day to the minute about the time that his family found out that he had passed away or the people that were at the hospital have found out that he had passed away. So do you explain how you found that out and why you chose to remove the video Well, yeah, I'm first interested to find out. Why y'all think I was the first or one of the first you know, to to do that because U, I mean, a rough estimate There's between one to three million pieces of social media content. that are produced every second worldwide U and You know, my team looked it up. If there's one hundred eighty million posts per minute And let's just say the first thirty minutes talking five point four billion posts in thirty minutes How could y'all narrow it down? What type of technology id J'all dou to narrow down that I was one of the first ones to post that he had passed. 's let's put it in a context, that's easier. The first person in Charlie's orbit that announ that information. and and we put it down to the minute it was when Erica found out Charie was had passed away. So I was wondering how how that work. Okay. I had someone text me And he said, My son Is that Charlie's event and Charlie was just shot and it doesn't look good. U we went on it. I watched Charlie beinging shot one time and my team Many who are former spepecial operations guys and combat medics, lots of experience They viewed it multiple times because I wouldn't And they said, Charlie I said Charlie wouldn't live from that. and I I knew it. first I knew the only time I saw it I knew there's no way he could have survive that and when I made a post and said You know, Charlie's past, Of course, I know Frank Turret, I know the security teams I put it up And then I didn't see anybody else posting it. I thought it was premature and I pull it down because it just felt Wrong that I would post it I wanted people to pray U and then I contacted Eric got to a text and told her I was sured Nobody's gonna kill you. You're safe, you and the kids No one's coming after you. They just wanted Charlie And I was just trying to reassure Be you declared he was dead on the basis of people saying it didn't look good on the basis of people Myself included who've had dead and dying men from combat in horrible situations An anybodyody who saw the killing and has that experience. No We knew he was dead instantly I struggle with that one a little bit. I think that's quite audacious for someone to because you did make a post initially saying he had been shot, pray for him, and then you did a follow up and then said, you know, Charlie, Charlie has passed on and said pray for Erica. So it just seems like there was some information in the coraridor there that led you to that conclusion And also in terms of the people who did post early on, I believe Jack Hibbs, Amir Safari, I think I think I'm saying his last name, probably incorrectly That's definitely all a part of that same sort of turning point faith orbit of pastors. And Jack Hibbs took down a video saying that actually there was an Israel channel that reported it first and had the information before anybody else I'm not aware of that Yeah. So I was wondering if you were all perhaps sharing information, but you're saying you just did that by yourself, no information Well the first post I made was ask for prayer And I knew just my gut level from watching it He's nott going to make it And then We believe in prayer and if nothing else, it's going to be for Those who are with them, those who secondary trauma effects of He' false regarding someone who iss killed Next, Eric and the kids, the first one. We went to. that's why I texted her and said, You're safe They're not going to come for you because how terrifying to know someone's just murdered, assassinated your husband and When I posted the second time, It had been a little time And I just kind of spoke for my heart regarding it. What I don't understand is why the incquisition on that we just wanted to know where the information came from. Obviously, if we're looking into everything that happened that day, we're going to look at Yeah whoo was the first to announce that Charlie died and you were very early and you removed it also. So it was an interesting item that people obviously have questions about Okay. And then you were among the first to post, you know, obviously you and your wife Actually, maybe it was actually just you in the first two days that went to Erica and Charlie's place to provide her U some comfort So you are quite close to Erica We brought our team immmediately to help give relief for the first security team. who I knew when I was in contact with and They were suffering trauma and exhaustion. they didn't have a secondary So yeah, we went there Oh, Of course my bride was with me Her and Erica are very, very close And we were just standing by to bring comfort or help, the number one need they had And we felt like it and we were asked to is to provide security to give relief. So that's what we did Okay, and just out of curiosity, how did Eileen and Erica get so close Um, There's a lot of women that you know, reach out to my bride for Mentorship and Isileen's like a I't know, pererhaps a second mom. Terica, We've been close to them and They still are. They were texting This week Erica reaches out and We respond or we reach out and encourage her. So yeah, they're They're very close. just sort of became close over the years Yes Okay, great. that just just asking you questions. That's not try to speculate any. Im just I'm fally trying to understand what the relationship is here because there are a lot of themes that keep popping up and one of the things is your involvement in trafficking and charityities's a lot of seems to be like a running theme of a lot of people that are in that orbit. And I wasn't clear as to how you were able to involve yourself, I guess outside the military. Maybe you can explain this, know in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Haiti, in I mean, where else actually can I ask you that? Did you ever go into Eastern Europe? I feel like there's always a Eastern Europe bend too Yeah, no, not physically. We didn't do physical operations there how we got involved into it. You know, my time in the Marine Corps was I served under President Reagan. My wife and I started a ministry, all things possible M, many years ago A couple of decades before that I worked for Dr. James Thopson. as an assistant, Um and We initially got into this aspect, our space of ministry to help kids who were abused and suffered many who were incarcerated which was often a pathway for them to follow because of crime and and mental health issues. We were invited First I was invited to go to Burma by Dave Eubbank who I consider commada. The Godfather of high risk missions work And he raises children in Burma, Thailand, but they did missions work for they still do for decades. But it was me going there experiencing Well we did seeing things at a whole different level Um And then I got invited to go to Iraq when ISIS invaded ose was and we had an invitation by the Kuristan government We had access placement and an official invitation to go in to help those who had been helped capted by IsIS. I brought in partial psychology team partartial security te because ISIS was everywhere and we needed to provide our own security We went there the first time in twenty fifteen, the early part it's a very hot zone We thought that would be it Cand, We just thought we'd go in and help We saw the enormous amount of IDPs, you know, which are displaced persons because of ISIS having to flee cities. and the number of kids And it was actually through my wife helpeling a girl who had been held captive and This girl told Eileen, she said You really care about all of our sisters. She was a Yazziti And she refers to all the girls still being held captive And she says, Yes, and the girl pulled out of phone. gave it to my wife and said, this is from ISIS Eir in the house was held captive. and I hope it helps S find more and actually see it as for my wife's Skipppler giv him my wife's watch before that there's a picture of it. It it's actually very beautiful And my wife said, Do you like my watch? And she said, Yes. it goes, well, you can have it And she gave it to her That was the first of many times going into the region and many missions to help those. we didn't plan It wasn't our focus to rescue Women and children at at all, it was our focus to help those who've been traumatized in these IDP camps, which some had thirty thousand people on them. They were lacking basic necessities For women and girls, they were lacking what we provided dignity kits for personal hygiene. We provided food, we provided water We started providing surgeries as our donations came in And never did we take any governmental funding to this day we have it. Everything that we've done has been documented. and I think some people who doubt the authenticity of what we do They separately have to go to YouTube And watch it. We've documented after Some of the doubt comes from the fact that people were not able to locate any of these like forty five, I think the number you claim is forty five thousand kids and women that you've rescued U and ty forty five thousand is that what you told Seaan Ryan, forty five thousand, I think was the number Have you ever read or heard me say We've rescued forty five thousand women or children I think we played the clip. I might be wrong, but forty five thousand I think was the number. Producers, you can remind me, but think I think I heard you say forty five thousand in a clip You have to be very specific. on the Sean Ryan S showow Yeah, it was not rescued nowhere, including the Seun Ran show Have I ever declared in wrriting or verbally that I ever rescued forty five thousand women children. That's absolutely. But you guys think you could pull that clip? I'm going to have the producers pull. I'm pretty sure you said forty five thousand Yeah, just play the clip and canter. Yeah. Do you want to do you guys want to play that? If there there way I'm trying to see if can get the producers to pull it, so I don't Yeah they'll pull that. I'm pretty sure you said forty five thousand. So are you saying you didn't rescue forty five thousand people well What I'm saying is I've never me said or written or our organization ever declared we rescued forty five thousand We've helped. We've provided trauma relief And some we've definitely rescued because it's part of what we do Our mission statement for all things possible ministries is to set captives free physically, emotionally, and spiritually And we stay within the confines of our mission And we're very successful in what we do But we docked you a minute. in a way that if people simply go to our YouTube channel They can see it if they go back They can watch the history of our social media. Not How many people how many people would you say you've rescued? because mayaybe we're Maybe we're parsing here. You're saying freed, you freed people, rescued people. How many people would you say that you have rescued just to get a number from you Well, we would never declared the total number of people we've rescued for both security and safety reasons We're happy to say that many Many have been set free and rescued in multiple places from ISIS is where we got the most Uh, I think People started recognizing that because of how high risk it was. my wife and I The last mission we were on, we rescued That was a rescue. of a mom who had been held captive nine years kidnapped as a teenager children. inside of captivity of ISIS And we planned a mission for six months, executed in five days. It's documented And She's back home with her family. Unfortunately, her dad passed away while she was in captivity, and we never told the family we were going to attempt to rescue. because of the hardship it would cause if we weren't able to do it But Eileen, my bride was the point person the first person to meet her when we were doing this That's documented as well And we show pictures and videos of the mom and the kids in our safe house inside of Iraq. I think one of the things that makes people really uncomfortable with a lot of these couples to involve themselves in rescuing and trafficking operations and charity is that we do hear this repeat thing where you say, well, it would compromise their safety if we told you where they went. that makes us have to trust you, right? And trust that you're an honest person and that you're an honest dealer and that you're in fact rescuing them and not, you know, maybe holding them in captivity yourself And And so when you get a person like you who I think Um you know, I have some questions about your character. I think that that's fair.ure. And you say that you're in this business and that you do everything and the people that say you're not that person are all troubled. For example, the young woman that you said you rescued from a pedophile who says another story and she makes the claim that she believes that you're a part of the trafficking ring. How is it possible for people to be able to prod that narrative if you can always just claim, well, the people that we help need privacy? I mean that would be a perfect setup for like Jeffrey Epstein, right? I mean, if you just want traffic people and then say Well, you know, we can't tell you where these people are. Because we got to protect their identity and we got to protect everything about them Janus, I think that's Not a bad Question because There are no doubts There's no doubt my mind that there are organizations that are actually traffickers that pose as counter trafficking We've been doing this for Gosh, many years And we work by doing went law enforcement. In other countries, we still work through government agencies Um and best way to prove the authenticity of claims is two ways three if you want to go all the way. One is people who've been on the mission. credible individuals I have Quite a list of operators who've done security work, intelligence gathering part who either still have or did have the highest level of clearance in the U. S that worked for the CIA or Joint Task Force or Delta, this This is not something that People went at becausecause we have a history of high credibility and integrity. Yeah So the CIA, I would say is the biggest trafficking organization in the world. That's not a vote of confidence, right? So if you say, I did it with the CIA or the IDF, I go, yeah, we'll go to Jeffy Epstein, right? Right So that doesn't, I don't think that not like saying I do it for goment doesn't lend clarity Let me clarify, I don't disagree with your statement very corrupt governments and I work for none of them I work around the governments I've never been paid by any of them. When I say CIA, I'm talking about former Men and women who have worked for the agency and bring a set of skill sets that are trustworthy for us And the third way would be the actual victims themselves Um We We just got a video from Southeast Asia I didn't askask for One of our safe houses there They were so hurt and disgusted By the false allegations against me, And it's only happened since I've entered the political realm, which is a completely different beast But they made a video and sent it I couldn't even watch it all because it was victims that we had saved and help And they're sending a video to try to prove to the naysers that of course, what he's saying is real. And that's on our social media. People can watch that It's either AI or a bunch of people that are paid And we've been doing this far too long And with far too much integrity And If I was doing anything nefarious, believe me We would have already got in trouble for it, but we're not. The other one is if you just come If you ever Canda Swens, if you ever say, I want to go to the Middle East and meet people and see firsthand what you've done If you'll accept the risk I'll give you my word that you can be on a team. We'll take you there and we'll introduce you as long as you sign an MDA and make sure you don't reveal some of our because we still do the work If you want to go to Southeast Asia Well you can bring a camera cool. We'll introduce you to one of our safe houses and see the work that we do It's just we've always kept things closer to our vest. We've raised our own support and The most important thing that has helped us is prayer. because we have been able to do things that people said could never be done. That's the point I'm making regarding this aspect. Now regarding Holly, the young lady that you brought up in Canada. You know what Everything we said about her is true. Everything we did is true Um, And Here's what I would say to people like yourself Uh and I haven't heard you accoose us of doing anything nefarious, You only repeat what others say But regarding Holly This is what I'd say to anybody Anyone talk to Holly's mother or her father If you haven't talked to their mother, her mother or father thenen you haven't done the very basics of investigative work. two We met with an HSI Human trafficking specialists at the border who approved us to get through from Canada to the US and gave her temporary status Three We brought in law enforcement both here and in Texas where we were keeping her four, We documented everything. And five, the very point couple in Canada. that was our I would say our aggents of hope up there have video that they just posted yesterday of Holey telling the truth Be we did to help her And look, I've had those videos, but I've never put them out since They reached out to Holly and it wasn't Holly that reached out It was Hoty's pedophile. Oh. groomed this girl since she was thirteen, had sex with her at fifteen She is a sadly a very damaged individual. They've already had a job. I'm telling you the people who have platformed Her pedophile on the conservative radio station here They're going to be held accountable because they've re victimized this girl She has Stockholm syyndrome She hasn't been posting The last thing they did and I was told that these folks here who are trying to discredit me, Candace. told her if you And less will Se Victor force, you know, try to get him for trafficking. You'll be able to make millions So Victor, an easy question, if you haveave you ever done anything wrong Of course, but in what context in your ministries, in these relationships that you've had with people that claim that they find you to be manipulative and abusive. haveave you ever done anything wrong? Jandis, I'm human. I've messed up plenty But in the air of integrity I've never intentionally gone after anybody I've never manipulated, maligned or try to do things from money So yeah, I mean, watch my film Read one of my two books. I talk about plenty of self evident. you know, ways that I depend on the grace of God I don't know if it's that hard to believe that Somebody that came from my background Ist like I've been given a second chance in life My goal as a kid growing up was to become the man that I wish somebody would have been to help save me. and I turn around and God redeems my life for a greater good What's so hard to believe about that That I made right choices, I didn't have to end up in prison You strugglled with drug abuse as a kid I struggled with my temper early on, of which I told people would aboutbout once a year, a punch or Cake a hole in the wall That was many years ago. I told people I was under psychiatric care, one hundred and twenty three visits trauma specialists Why wouldn't I after the abuse that I went through, which was severe and torture My life is a redeemed life. Never do I claim to be perfect But my passion is I love people because I'm loved by God And I don't know why. onlyn since I've come into the space of running for governor all hell. Gs And people are just looking into your background and they have some questions about, you know,, it just seems a little bit fantastical. Your relationships with the IDF Um I mean, person Do you want to talk about that Well, I think you've been honest about your relationships with the IDF. I think you've just said that you you have relationships with them. obviously You went on Charlie Kirk show after october seventh, you've said you foster a relationship with them. I'm not saying nothing I did. Nothing was said just to be clear. That was illegal about your relationship with them. There was nothing said that was impieding What I did with the IDF ask me so I can tell you Why don't you ask me What I did with the IDF? Why did I go to Israel? After october seventh, we played the clip on our show when you were on Charlie Kirk's show. Do you know what I did there, Candace I can say what you said on the Charlie Kirk show that you went there after october seventh to be able to tell the story of what happened there and to separate propaganda. Pe would say it was propaganda. Crect Yeah. so we showed that. I Well, let me tell you, we helped six thousand children who had been affected by the war between Hamas and Israel and It was because we had access ples and an invitation that we were able to go into these places. Who invited you a nonprofit that was based inside of Israel, who was a spepecial Forces IDF guy who' followers for years We got invited in And You know, the first question I asked him when I'm in cubot is with blood and go everywhere. I said Why didn't the government respond What happened And my friends who lived there said Two things, Victor One, we were unprepared and we underestimated our enemy I said, how long did it take for the government to send reinforcements. It was six hours. Six hours I ask every fighter, why Why didn't they respond and help Joe? Why did they leave Joe here? fighting. Why did so many Wimited children have to get killed How come they didn't respond No one has an answer And someone should be held accountable for that. Because I'm not there to back Israel. I'm not there to back Palestinian folks I'm there for women and children And we put our life on the line to help Over six thousand I went into the West Bank. and yes, I did go into Gaza by virtue of these special operations teams Not to shoot, not to kill, not to kick doors in. I went to pray. And we help Palestinian kids who had been injured as well This is who we are. and anything other than It' just ridiculous We hand it out lining limbs. What do you think about what Israel is doing in Palestine the moment Well, I know this I know Amazing. Amazing IDF fighters I know amazing people who are protecting their homeland I love children on both sides of it. And I've been with great warriors. We've helped. We've helped But I don't and I can't say that I fully trust the leadership and judgment of a government that waited six hours Six hours of s reinforcement It's a twenty minute flight by helicopter It's o. forty five minute drive to send troops down there The reasons they said, I still don't know And I was told by everybody, there'll be an investigation afterwards Yeah But I know this I think it was to establish the pretext for what they did in Gaza. I'm just asking you've expressed that you and your wife care deeply about women and children. We do. And you can see the footage of what they have done to Gaza since so I'm asking It's horrific. while we were there While we were there on the Israeli side We had over two thousand rockets launched at us. How are they still firing rockets? I said from the beginning, No, I don't mean as Israel the victim. I'm saying now, I think the victim has flipped, obviously I. I know innocent people on both sides paid a price M paid a horrible price. but do you believe what's happening in Gaza is a genocide? I would say this, it has turned into a genocide question I have to ask And you should be asking too Why didn't Hamas stop firing rockets when we were there doing humanitarian work There was over two thousand rockets fired at us in the areas that we were at It was nonstop. I said this from the beginning. I put it online. I was on Fox. I said Hamas needs to stop firing rockets in the beginning. Stop firing Return the hostages, return them And then there'll be a ceasefire, work out something they never did. And that's the question. Look, I love Palestinians I love the people I've helped kids, women I love them And the see people innocently slaughtered because of a terrorist group Hamas continues to attack Israel What are you going to do? Well I think the terrorist group now might be the IDF because of what's happening in Gaza. I don't think that that's done by people who are not terrorists. I mean I don't Have you seen the videos of what's coming out of there I saw the video child mother walking. It's horrible It's horrible. I do wanted to show you, by the way, your website said that you rescued forty five thousand people. I just want to show you that This is The old website is just the dis get changed, but A marine a past serv is I don't know who changed us. Maybe you had somebody doing your website and that got changed. Did you have somebody make the website for you? can' This is a high risk humanitarian who has rescued more than forty five thousand women and children Thatounds completely inaccurate. I would have never. What website is email? It's Victor two thousand twenty six d. com We never, anybody They're saying that that was on our website. I don't believe that We would never put rescued forty five thousand Never I don't say Yeah, I don'ts it's just, you know, when It will still save former edits on a website. So it may have just been your website guy got something wrong. So I just wanted to let you know that we didn't We didn't thank you Yeah. Okay. Okay, so that is very interesting to hear your perspectives on what Israel is doing. I think it's probably going to be a number one issue. And I think right now, currently people feel that the majority of the politicians have sold out to APAC. And I would definitely have some questions about your relationship with the IDF. And like I said, C we did not say that you did anything illegal by you know, if you are liking to Ially allowed to never did ask. Never did I ask Cy Corby for fifty thousand weapons Friday. Wh I have an FFL. I only buy stuff for ourself or our training That's ridiculous. That's absurd And again, Corby' still loose out there. and if he's watching Corby Please Turn yourself into some authorities, let them question you. And like I said from the beginning, please get help. Don't act upon thoughts you're hearing. I'm sorry, Are you presending that he's on the run right now from the federal government? Because' that's a remarkable claim I'm not saying he's on the run, but I'm saying that we The authorities are looking for him to question him Have they advised to call him? I guess, I don't know. it's both the FBI and El Paso. C be a good start if you're looking for someone to just call them, right Well, I'm sure they I'm sure they have. I It's an open investigation But I'm just saying Corby should just stop whatever he's doing and respond to authorities to get this sorted out But you don't know if they've reached out to him, but you're saying he should stop and respond. I do not know. They've contacted me and said, do you know where he is Do you know where he would be? And I'm like, I do not Okay, Well, you just just to go back just, you know, the way that you said it in the first time, you made it kind of sound like he was on the run from authorities, right Turn yourself in sounds like when you say turn yourself in, it sounds like there's a warrant for your arrest. So this is this is what I think that sometimes you can get, you don't maybe don't realize it, but You can get a little fantastical in your descriptions. Corby, stop what you're doing and turn yourself in is a little bit different from oh, I have no idea if they're reaching out to him, but I was told they might give him a call, right? So that's a little more reasonable a statement let me make it very clear The FBI has contacted us. It's an open investigation Houseo County Sheriffs Department, they are looking for Corby Plain and simple. He should stop what he's doing. contact them or turn himself into local authorities wherever he is So he can be questioned You don't have to turn yourself in if there's not a warrant for your arrest. respectfully, like that's not how that works. if they just have to call them. I think that's a perfect place to leave that. Let's not pretend. If you said there was a warrant for his arrest, that'd be a little different, but you are not fired in any of the fifty states to turn yourself in because somebody says, okay, we're going to we're going to try to make some contact with this person. You have not said that he's not answering. I just I want to stay away from the fantastical stories and the narratives and stick to the facts Like I said, I've heard that there's an open investigation into you and has something to do with guns. I don't know, but I wouldn't Asert things we could stop what you're doing and turn yourself in because somebody got a phone call Thats that's a complete fabrication. Okay. I work fabricationes Candace we leave that alone. So search that Cby accusations against you If someone said they were going to kill you and they told somebody how, would you want that person to talk to the law enforcement? I just I have no evidence of that. And like I said, some of your stories just a perfect example is what you just did Corby say not to turn yourself in. Patformed Corby. Obviously, this is a little bit more I am platforming you right now actually. So here we go Yeah But you I've done nothing wrong anything I've That's just incredibly sarcastic Yeah, I was being sarcastic. I find you to be arrogant and off putting, actually. It was a little bit of sarcasm of me basically pointing to the fact that you come across as very arrogant. and it is off putting that you make statements like you make. stop what you're doing to turn yourself off. You're constantly presenting yourself like you're some sort of an authority. You can just deliver the facts. I received a phone call from this person They said they might be looking for him and I don't know where that went since that would be a logical noton completely appropriate for me to say law enforcement is looking for an individual who confessed to someone who platformed him on your show connected, Joe, that he is homicidal and he wants to kill me and this is how he's going to do it. I just same way I believe that the Feds would need you to help look for him if that were true. They do have resources But like I said, I also don't believe that you beheaded a cat when you were three because kids are not that strong and that's a hard thing to do. I don't believe you wore a cat head because you know, there's a lot of things that you say that I don't believe. So I'm just going. But I'll tell you Be very careful and minimizing Someone who's been victimized, including children Because there are millions of us out there. do not believe I do not believe her stry that you were forced to be head a cat and it was your You don't have to. You don't have to I just But be very careful minimize w a hat. I don't believe that. I truly don't. And that is not to victimize children. I do think that what you're actually doing is you're being emotionally manipulated by saying, oh, if you don't believe me, then you don't believe victims. No I believe things that sound believable because I have a logical rational brain. and I have you been victimized.ooting and murdering people and the sheriff's department not wanting to figure out who that is or not knowing where it happ happenens. tell you lot of it does not ra to me. And like I said, I did enough diligence to speak your relatives and they say that it's not true You haven't done you're presenting it as though they're protecting the abuser I just loo on your they don't believe itics.ro I were Colorado residents I would say I would introduce you to international Well, you're not, it doesn't matter What I would say is this, the international Crimes Agst Children, let us introduce you to detectives that actually work on child abuse cases and have one conversation with them to say's really real I don't. I'm sorry You don't have to. I'm not saying you have to, but I'm saying donon't minimize people who've been victimized as children, that not I'm talking about you directly. so you don't have to make I am. don't have the university represents Millions, Candace. I don't think you represent millions, Victor Ms. I really struggle. and I actually am hopeful that you don't represent millions. I want to be I want to have a hopeful picture Trust me of the future. There are millions that follow me that suffer abuse And that's why our films, our books, that's why I'm telling my story encourages and gives them hope. That's as simple as that. We'll never stop doing that Whether you believe it or not, that's not the point here. The point is U to say I didn't suffer abuse I'm not saying you didn't suer some for of abuse. I'm saying you didn I don't belie a beheaded cathead after you beheaded it. I don't believe that. If that's okay, if we can just agree to disagree on that one, just a lot of the mechanisms there just don't make sense to me You should talk to ICAC detectives. peopleople work on sex crimes against children and kids who are abused and murdered. There was a kid here four years old that was beat to death I believe only are good to death Yes, That's right. Absolutely. there wait, But if he was beat to death, he wasn't there, right Pardon me There was a kid that you said was there at your house and then he got beat to death? No, here in Colorado, recently, a four year old was beat to death by a caregiver Yeah that happens all across the nation. That's a believable story That's right. And do you think they never suffer any type of torment or torture before that? or is it just I would struggle to believe that a three year old beheaded a cat and then had to wear it on their head. I just wish I struggle with that one. that Cat was dead I didn't think it was alive after it was beheaded. I mean I don't think M was disagreeing on whether or not the cat was aliveoo Candus do a short study in Voodoo and understand V Voodoo rituals against boys If you go deep enough, you'll see how twisted it is. I'm not here to glorify darkness at all. That's not my point. My point is that we bring life and hope and maybe some things that even you don't believe that happened to me as a child motivate me to help kids over these last forty years, which is documented and prorovable I don't know why you feel you're the person who has to But maybe I do now because you just said it If you lived in Colorado, you wouldn't vote for me. So maybe you're getting paid by somebody to discourage a vote toward me, which is the only reason anybody I actually rem myself this alltogether after Chy got killed. I'm noting anybody. But you didn remove yourself because you just made a statement. so No, I say I don't live in Colorado, so it's it's not there's no consequence. Yeah. you told people not to vote Yeah, I will be. I will own that I have many times since the Charlie Kirk assassination And the lies surrounding his assassination have said' leaning into trying to dis dissuade people for voting for me and discredit me as a child who was abused I've given plenty of time. It's supposed to be thirty minutes. Do you have any follow up questions that because I do have to end? No. Thankk you very much for your time. I wanted to make sure that I provided you equal time to be able to answer some of the questions. I think you did clarify some things. I don't think anyone will ever forget that you served for three years. I won't. I will make sure everybody knows that from here all the way to Colorado. This man served for three years And I think that's a thank you for your service to this country You're wec It's a great place to end. 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First and foremost, let's go through our top comments from yesterday's episode first, Adriana Gomez came in with whenever something is amiss, I think it should be referenced to as NEFT up. Yeah It's Nft up is a great way of putting things Blakey Nf. here We're at forty seven days, Blakey. Here's my take Rotes. I really want to hear from Charlie's parents, you and I both, and I think the entire world would love to hear from them. Like I've said in previous episodes, I do know that they are in fact in a deep state of grief and I will just leave it at that won't say how Um I've just heard some things and I know that they are acting in a way that some people might have thought his widow might have acted Following his death All right let's get into some comments from today's episode. We have Torll writes, Men like this are the reason I started reading the Bible recently. Yeah, I mean, I think in regards to him talking about his faith, he is sort of like the faith is mine. I have the Bible. I can make it what I want. It's one of the flaws that I find in Protestantism is that it becomes my truth very quickly Anybody can interpret every verse as they want and they can make it a bumper sticker. or you can believe like that you can do exactly what Christ does and you can summon demons and angels into a room. So that's interesting. Natdie Nicole writes as a vet, I am dy laughing dying laughing at him crying about his time and service. What a joke. Yeah, I was like, I really think People who ser are a little tougher than that, they could just answer the question like we weren't trying to dis them. I said two years. I think they thought it was four years and we said two. And he's like, you don't even know how to read this form. and it's like, what All right Three years, man. It's all you. Kat Babwatch is writes, Christ has been my Savior since nineteen eighty two since then I have had a gift of discernment. This man is evil and he may know Christ, but I'm sure Christ will say to him one day, I never knew you depart from me the goospel of Matthew, absolutely Julia writes, Army veteran of ten years of service here, not offended. I'm offended that he was begging for an apology. We serve to defend our country, I thought, feeling hurt over one last year is wild. Great job holding your ground., proud of you as always. Animes somebody's like demanding apology. I just find it to be weird Why would you an apology if I don't if I'm not sorry's just like a weird power move. She sorry to me L, notot yourick kid man I'm not your kid. We will not be demanding any apologies out of me. I don't owe you an apology. It was an honest mistake and you do come off like a cry baby Um for taking it that personally. Alaska dog Lady writes, No, he did not dare call us Tamu TMZ. This man is unstable. Christ have mercy on our ears. I'm going to have to tell my prifests that I will chill. Yeah, he did. He called us Tamu TMZ. And I think TMZ iss pretty Tu. So that ain't good for us or something. but you could see he just sort of like had that ready to go and kept saying it and it was just weird It just made me feel like it was a bit childish to be honest. Munooss writes, I am no body language interpreter, but Victor seems incredibly uncomfortable. Lying makes people naturally uncomfortable He just kind of strikes me as someone who's used to talking a lot. He doesn't listen a lot, but he's used to just speaking all the time and letting people and people believe him. And you can see that actually when we were watching some of the clips of him on stage, he actually probably would have crushed it as a comedian You know, he's got good timing and he just believes everything that he says. He's not used to being challenged. and you can see that it sends him into a rage. Like when he said, Oh, like I had to work, I used to punch holes in walls. you still need to work on your chber because you just came here thinking that You were going to direct the conversation on my show U Do doesnn't work like that. actuallyually it's my show K Jordan writes that the gaslighting is insane. him knowing Charlie was dead as soon as he saw the video but calling for prayer that then announcing he's dead. Yeah, that part made no sense. I didn't buy it, but I allowed him to say that he's. tell it in the way that he wanted to You continue with prayers to Stt Michael, the Archangel. Please stay safe, Candice. I do that prayer every single day. it's a powerful prayer. I really do I believe it is. TN Cricket writes tellell me that you've never helped an abuse victim without saying that you've never helped an abuse victim, asking someone on a live show if they'd ever been abused obviously expecting a no answer. The truth is not in him. You could just see the way that he's kind of like, if you question me, you're questioning all abuse victims. It's like, no, most abuse victims don't say that they beheaded a cat when they were three And I'm able to complimmentalize that. That to me, as I said to him, felt like an emotionally manipulative tactic. Like I now represent He he said that He's like Tump when Trump's like I am MGa. He's like I am abuse victims Nobody you're not. Everybody knows people that have been abused And I've never seen people behave like that like they are the authority on abuse. and that again Your character comes across when you speak, he didn't represent himself well at all, and he had the platform to. ort Ana rightights We stand with CEO. Thank you very much. Sev games, a lot rights Candas. canan you please give a shout out to the free Wendy Williams movement? Yeah, I should look into I know a bit about that. We have not covered it on the show, but it is crazy to think that a bank can just step in and take over your entire life We got to start using cash again, guys. We gott to get out of the system. Wait til they bring in like chips and dig digital ID's want inserted into our arms. They've got quite a dystopian vision for the future Minnesota Lizzy writes Hey, Candace, I look back and Charlie Kirk did say that his daughter's favorite song is Jolene by Dolly Parton. H I'm thinking replace the female name and it could be about mom, a question mark. Truth prevail writes, you definitely have a lot of patience for dealing with this guy. As a veteran myself, no offense taken at all. Victor is gaslighting and he's also a narcissist. He can't even answer a question without being belligerent. Yeah, that is the perfect adjective for him. He's belligerent. And I't think he's aware that he's belligerent. I think he thinks he's calm and he thinks it's a rrational thing to get all like bent out shape about How many years of service as if we meant it as a diss? Like it's just like, I don't know, man. It's not my life. We're happy to correct it and just move on. And he's like, no, I'm going to crush you This shows you a disinformation platform. You said two, it was three. It's a weird. thing to be hung up about And I always have a lot of patience with dealing with people who I just see right through and that To me, that whole act is just someone who likes to be in control, but hasn't even managed controlling his own emotions The listening doctor writes I am a medical doctor and I will tell you that abused people abuse others. It is true. but murder and animal abuse is another level. This man is dangerous, and he is normalizing his behavior and making abused people look bad. That is a very good point. And that's kind of what I think I was trying to get out with him. I don't know if I was as eloquent as I could have been in saying that this is different. You're talking about like killing an animal and wearing an animal on your head That's not Standard abuse. That's like Jeffrey Dahmer Like when we like see somebody who has a traits for a serial killer And so they usually say abused animals in their youth and then went on to become a serial killer when they were older. I don't like that background and I don't justust everything about that. L I murdered a man out of seven and like I had to deal with that and everything's fine now and And we don't know where the body is like, o so you didn't know where you lived, You drove around somewhere. you don't know where you were. As I said, I spoke to his direct relatives. And they said it's just not true. L that's just not something that wouldn't have come up. They were close to him. so I guess he says he has a sister not on his stepfather's side of the family who can confirm that they experienced abuse. I'm sure Abuse has many names. There are people who think they're abused when somebody sends them a mean text message. We can be talking about verbal abuse, parents that shout and scream all the time And then you're talking about this level This rarely unlocked level of abuse where you're saying you had to murder people before you were seven and behead a cat and wear its head and then said something about voodoo traditions, which I know nothing about and I'm interested and how he knows, Oh, he's spending some time in Haiti Baby L lots to figure Listening,ctror I'm sorry that was you. Sarah Bryan writes conclusively I pray for you, Kandace, if I ever was lucky enough to have a daughter, I certainly would like her to be Just like you, honest loving and caring about others, I know in my heart that you will find answers about Charlie. I worry about the fact that these are the people that Charlie surrounded himself with. I worry about the fact Charlie was even prayed over by someone like Victor Marks. I don't find him to be I said the many fantastical pastors that are around him and none of them feel godly to me. They do all feel They think they're gods in their own personal capacity and that's what you kind of get. He's like, I read the Bible. now I'm God. And I can do everything God can do. you see, it's right here in the Bible. Don't you believe in the Bible I'm here to interpret it for you and tell you what I can do That is someone that you should run from. And Charlie was immersed in this world from Turning Point USA Faith found him to be a little reticent to discuss much about, you know kind of leaving Eric out of the story. Charlie was already married to her. She was the one who was driving home turning pointoint faith. In fact, Charlie said as much on stage in Aspen. Notorious aspen trip, Charlie said when he mentioned turning Point USA faith that like his wife does a lot of work for turnurning Point USA faith, that was her thing and makes sense as to why she was very close with Eileen Marks donon't find any of this to be coincidental I He is exactly what I thought he would be So what are we to make of? his proximity to turnurningpint USA If we can discern that after me talking to him for an hour Why can nobody at Turning Point USA pick up on that Who's giving him an office? Who's telling him to pray over Charlie? Who's the person in Charlie's ear saying you can trust this guy? I think it's Eic I I think it was Erica who brought these people around and pushed Charlie to have relationships with them. That's my viewpoint. 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