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I think that's now a very fair question to ask. Did you guys think it was suspect at any moment that it was staged? I certainly didn't definitely something that I was reticent to even consider before And if it was staged by whom exactly On that note, we received a very bizarre response regarding our FOIA request to Sam seven hundred two. That's that Fort Watchua plane that was carrying one person that we can identify, Bradley Hansel, the undernderseecretary of war, just under Pete Hgseth. So let's just jump right back in. welcome back to Candice All right, I'm just kind of taking this informal poll here in the chat and a lot of people are saying, yes, stage, yes, st staged, absolutely stagage. but a lot of people also saying, I didn't think it was staged when it happened. And that's where I was. I just I don't know. I was totally captivated by it. I was saddened by it. I wanted Trump to win because of this assassination attempt. and I don't know where I sit right now Given this conversation that was started by Tucker Carlson yesterday. So let's just right at the top here, show you the clip that went absolutely viral yesterday over on X. Tucker was joined by Mario Noffel. and here is what he had to say regarding the first assassination attempt. I can't believe I'm saying the first assassination attempt of President Trump, which took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Take a listen Butler, I know that Trump shut down the investigation into Butler. That is a fact. Den Bunjino told me that when he worked at the FBI And um, Dan Bunchino himself was terrified when I spoke to him in December. It's such a longboring story, but basically I came into possession They beg your pardon of accidentally came into possession of a lot of the social media posts that we were told didn't exist that we're posted by Thomas Crooks in the months and years before the shooting And I was amazed that the FBI had lied about this. So I called Cash Patel and I leader called Dan Bonjino and I says, you know, what is this? I'm not attacking you as the previous FBI administration that did this. It was Chris Ray, but what is this Dan Buncino became hysterical with me on the phone. I've known Dan a long time for many years and always got him along with him You know, whatever his fault, say, you know, nice guy. Nice certainly very nice to me. I never had a problem with Dan ever And that problem began when I brought this information to his attention and he He became a different person. He was clearly terrified. I didn't get it at first, but he was hysterical And ultimately, after a long series of text exchanges, which I still have and phone conversations m He said, look, take it up with Trump. He's the one who shut down the investigation And that was, I think the first or second week of December. I think it was the beginning of the second week of December down. That was the moment and I realized, oh wow You know, there's no good explanation for shutting down an investigation into your own attempted murder. Like this is not what we've been told it was So a lot to unpack there. The first thing I thought when I saw this was wait, what Trump was the person who shuts down the investigation into his own assassination attempt. What does that mean? And then I saw Den Bonino's response So just to recap what we just heard there Tucker says he reached out to Dan Bonino because they had been friends for a long time. he reached out to Cash Patel because he was working on a story. That story was that we people What was communicated to us was that this Matt Crooks character, Matthew Crooks had absolutely no orromas Crooks Matthew Thomas Crooks or Thomas Matthew Crooks had absolutely no social media history. And it turned out that he had a very long extensive social media history. And the FBI was aware of this. So he reaches out and he says, lookook, you guys weren't involved U but What is this? Why are we being lied to you guys are certainly in power now? And he says that Dan Bonino grew hysterical And he says that Dan Bonino was terrified. My understanding, and I think any rational person's understanding of what he means is that this story, the Butler story, perhaps the Butler cover up, whatever it is, terrified Dan Bonino and terrified Cash Patel. Totally believable. just looking at Cash Patel. He constantly looks like he is in a state of terror. This is how Dan Bonino chose to respond to Tucker saying that Dan was terrified. take a len I'm not This is not a pretend tough guy act. I'm a fifty one year old man with decaying joints I'm not I don't plan on fighting anyone in the UFC There's no violence is never the answer to anything. I'm not interested in any of that But I'm going to tell you straight, if you think I was terrified of Charlson then I'm really sorry like you need to take yourselves a Xanix and go find a doctor, right That's of all the things, like that's the most hilarious. However, accusing me and the president of a federal crime, obstructing justice bizarrely The president involved in covering up the investigation into his own attempted murder. is seriously one of the most delusional things I've ever seen. and the reason I'm really starting to believe and I mean this sincerely that Tuckers' just Dumb I don't have it. is he doesn't realize like I have these texts too quuite a time to call Tucker dumb when you completely misunderstood the context of what he meant when he said you were terrified. D don I don't think Tucker wants to fight you. Tucker wears boat shoes. He gives me Martha Vineyard vibes. He's definitely wasn't saying He wanted to fight you. He's saying something scared you and something that you saw scared you. Let's cool it with the aggressive nature of wanting to beat up Tucker Carlson. like doesn't make you sound top fifty one. Oh beat him up. Okaykay. Then on top of that, he completely misunderstands everything Tucker said. Tucker was very clear that he spoke with Dan in December And Dan thinks that he has a haa gotcha. I'm going prove that Tucker is stupid by showing an article published before Him and Tucker spoke. He shows an article from November, which is completely irrelevant to everything that Tucker just said. takeake a listen He says that the president shut down the Butler investigation Totally, completely one hundred percent made up. But we did a full interview with Brooks Singman from Fox, which to all the people who by the way, think Tucker's for real. If you think I'm doctoring any of this, please go look this article up yourself Don't trust me, trust the evidence. Here it was november twenty first, even before Tucker says he spoke to me in December Exclusive, FBI concludes Trump shooter Crooks acted alone after unprecedented global investigations. Now, he says the investigation was shut down. Yet here it is on the record in November. Again, the Tucker fans will apologize for him Until the end of time Because they just can't give up the coolid Let me read this to you in case you're a tucker fan who can't read The case, that's the Crooks case he says was shut down, currently sits in a pending An active status. Wait, keepe this up. Andy, does that say the case is closed And these shakers at Jasmine, does that say that It does not. No It says the opposite. This is before Tucker claims he talked to me. But the official, this is one of the investigators, called the investigation, one of the largest mobilizations of FBI resources in history that continued to this day Yeah, Dan come out of this, Dan. it's because Tucker butoke after that. So I The investigation was open before we spke to Tucker and Tucker said he spoke June December. Everything you're saying doesn't make sense. but beyond that his whole face, his demeanor he'sying. I mean Dan Boncino is just lying. That's my how I'm reading him He's not making any sense. He wants to fight. It's aggressive. And Tucker made a statement that he had multiple conversations with him. Dan appeared terrified. Tucker said it was both on the phone and via text. and he conveyed to him that it was the president who didn't want information to come out And then Dan proves Tucker's point by showing a text message in which Dan instructs to Tucker that if you want more information about Butler, then you need to ask Trump to tell us to release it, meaning that there was more information about Butler That Trump did not want released. Take a listen to Dan Bonino. pull the paramount not so tactical. You can listen Here's the other text where I actually go on to further make the case next to him. He said, I hopope you had the chance, Tucker said to see the piece on Crooks. We received some information and a planning of detailed follow up. Is there someone I can talk to with the FBI before we do? Thanks. I said, I saw it And that you seem to believe that Cash and I, who are longtime personal friends with the president are involved in some sinister cover up is absurd. I thought he said we were covered it up. Yet in my text, leave this up guys I'm saying the exact opposite Jed, am I not? It's almost like he'sllshitting you again Is the president in onit two? I asked? He's one of the victims. He's told us repeatedly, as he said publicly, he's satisfied with the effort cash and I put in The president's a victim in a federal crime And when he's ready for us to release more information about this crime, then it'll tell us. I suggest you give him a ring and tell him you want more. Let me know what he says. He's a member of the media. People call him all the time Okay, so if Dan if the presresident. could be called and could be told instruct you to release more information, then there's more information that the president is aware has not been released to the public. That's everything Tucker just said. And you don't realize that you're confirming his report by accident. Now, I am now of the position that something is very wrong with Butler And whatever it is that is wrong with Butler, it may go a very long way in terms of explaining What is wrong with Trump? What went wrong with Trump? Because we have two options here If you almost get assassinated And you do not fire the secret Service agents that failed to protect you on that day. They moved you off the stage, but certainly failed to protect you on that day and see somebody on the rooftop And then beyond that, you determine that you are satisfied with the investigation and you allow lies to come out about the investigation or lies to remain about the investigation saying that the person who allegedly fired the shots had no social media background. And then you withhold information from the public We only have two options to conser. The first thing is that the entire thing was staged and Trump was involved Trump knew it was going to happen and he allowed the entire assassination attempt to take place thereby thrusting him into this category where all of us went, o, there must have been a reason that Gods saved him I'm not inclined to believe that option. okay The seconde option is that it was a real assassination attempt It actually had nothing to do with the person that it was blamed on Um, and did escape with his life and it was a warning do not ever do Well, you know, whatever it is, like a gangster sort of warning. And I am inclined to believe that that is what happened. This would completely transform Trump. It would transform it would make him obey. It's like a gangster Basically, you take money from a gangster, you take hundreds of millions of dollars from a gangster, they fire a warning shot Maybe because, you know You willilly nilly said in front of Charlie Kirk and Andrew Colvett that you were going to take somebody's money and then F them over not knowing that that information got back to some people And you escapeed with your life and after that, you just did whatever these people said I' just I'm just thinking here because I believe Tucker is telling the truth And Dan's entire face and demeanor and panic and yelling and threatening to fight signals to me that Tucker is telling the truth, that Tucker told him on the phone It was Trump himself that shut down this investigation That is what is being reflected to me in the worst poker face that I've ever seen in Dan Bonjino. He can't even think rationally, he's just angry and wants to fight because he's been exposed, okay If that version of events is true If Trump survived an assassination attempt and then the gangsters came to him and said You do whatever we say. now Well, ing up brring us to a sort of logical explanation as to Trump's behavior thereafter because I believe that Trump betortrayed Charlie Kirk by a similar lack of investigation into who killed Charlie Kirk. He betrayed himself and he betrayed Charlie Kirk. And if the same people were involved in both I think there's an indication, I think Many of us suspect that the same people are could be involved in both And you could see how easily that might keep Trump in line because I think Trump is very vain And even though he is old, he is not trying to be a hero And his option is will keep you alive and willll make you So rich And your family' so rich and you'll have land and you'll have your name on buildings forever, Trump's taking that option. He would rather take I'll be alive for a couple of more years and very wealthy rather than to sacrifice his life. doing the right thing Him and Charlie had different character Which brings us to a rather explosive piece that was published in the New York Times yesterday. This was also trending This is inside the White House freakout over the Epstein files. Now I am not a normal Cumer of the New York Times, obviously, really I don't really read much of the media anymore because of how many lies have been told piece, it was very obvious that it was well sourced And I'll get into my opinion, which is that Dan Bonino was one of the sources and I'll tell you why I think that in a bit But revealed in this piece was a relevant portion about Charlie Kirk in summation, It's about how Trump really did not want the Epstein files to be investigated. Now there are two takes on this. Some people think that it is because he's in them. I don't doubt that Trump had some sort of a business relationship with Epstein. It makes perfect sense to me when you understand Epstein's business model, right? What did Epstein do He was involved in a trafficking ring He trafficked weapons, he trafficked people. He did it on behalf of the state of Israel. We have another Israel theme Charlie Kirk I'm turnning away from Israel Donald Trump I'm gonna screw over Miriam Madelson shortly there after an assassination attempt happens, okay And now we have Trump in a full panic the White House over the Epstein files and him having to do anything to shut down that investigation. We learn in the midst of Charlie's SaS, the stududent Action suummit, where we have been telling you over and over again according to our timeline It seems to us that after Tucker took the stage at SA, Tucker Carlson took the stage at Sas In instructions went out to kill Charie Kirk That's just what the timeline tells us. Like if we're just looking at it like a story, things got weird after Tucker hit the stage. We have said this from the very beginning since we mapped out this timeline. Well, it turns out Tucker spoke on july eleventh And on july twelfth, Charlie received a phone call from the president. Here's what the New York Times article tells us. It reads quote On july twelfth, the president took to Truth Social. To defend Pam Bondi against criticism and to urge his boys and gals to stop wasting time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Trump told AIDS that he was very unhappy with some of his most influential supporters, including Charlie Kirk Tucker Carlson and Mean Kelly all of whom were publicly urging the administration to come clean had held a turning point USA event the previous day turned into an Epstein grievance fest, with one speaker after another bashing Bondie over her handling of the situation Trump had called Kirk and scolded him Okay couple of things happening here Why would Donald Trump President of the United States callall Charlie Kirk to scold him. People on stage are calling out a child rapist. Makeaking makeakes sense I'm open to other ideas I don't wantanna be a conspiracy to make that makes sense There was mass panic. We have covered this. Charlie lost millions and millions of dollars on stage from his pro Israel donors over Tucker calling out Epstein. Meghgan Kelly talked about Epstein. So this is perfectly trackking with what we know went down and and Probably held the line. By and large, Charlie held the line. They wanted him to cancel Tucker. They were angry that in particular, that he had Tucker Carlson had asked where Bill Ackman's money comes from. It It's kind of like one of those Epstein esque questions where it's like, people people get really rich when you start looking into it, it doesn't really make sense where the money is coming from. There was massked Zionist panic again We have theme of Israel. plot that on our timeline because I remembered something that's bothering me. okay july eleventh to july thirteenth, twenty twenty five We know that that's the student action summit, turnurning pointoint USA St student actction summit in Tampa, Bay Florida. Charlie's first speech at four PM on Friday, his last speech concludes at one ten PM on Sunday. Okay july eleventh is the day that Tucker Carlson delivered that speech Charlie tells him to go max. Despite the fact that donors are freaking out, he tells him to go max. calls out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that the people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship, and he muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from on july twelfth, according to N Yorkimes P president Trump calls Charlie Kirk angrily and he scolds him about SaaS calling it an epsteen grievance speest. What does this have to do with you, Trump What's up do with you Who is telling you to call Charlie and scoul him? Now there's only two options. One, The gangsters that you took money from are telling you to call Charlie and put an end to it because Epstein worked for Israel or two, you're in the Epstein files so there's no in between. You don't just call someone to scold them about bringing up being aggrieved by a child rapist, everyone should be aggrieved by a person who harms children If you're not, we're not on the same team Okay. It july fourteenth date Erica travels aboard a private flight to Long Beach, California. She's got Katherine Lo Castro, It's a young woman who works Ting pointoint USA was at one point, Mikey McCoy's assistant, Derek Nayirk, who who's a bodyguard Jonathan Barcelo, who is a marine And she speaks at James Catus's Calvary Chapel Church. Now James Catis is that icky guy who is Egyptian and runs turning Point USA faith. We need to look into James Catus, I've received so many emails about him, radically pro Israel. She speaks at their womomen's Summer of Psalm retreat. There was something bothering me about this speech forever. I keep being like this speech is really weird because she says in the speech that this was her Sunday church, okay. We know Erica bounces, sometimes she's Catholic, sometimes she's you know Jewish, sometimes she's Judeo Christian and this day she was Calvary Chapel. okay It's bizarre to me because when James Katis teased up the speech, he goes on about like Pro Israel, Cro Isel. and I was like, there's something really bothering me about this on the timeline. F first and foremost, I realized Erica didn't show up to Sa, which was unusual. Then she gets in a plane. She knows her husband is being aggrieved. She knows her husband is under pressure from Israel. She knows her husband is losing millions from Israel And yet, she gets on stage. She gets this pro Israel intro from James Catis and then talks about, you know how there's always war in Israel because Israel is great or whatever and says that this speech is sort of a call to arms and she's putting it in the context of women and dating and whatever. I'll like you to take a little listen to this portion of her speech Fox News is now streaming live on Fox One When it matters most Turn to the voices you trust We go beyond the headlines, bringing you the stories you won't hear anywhere else Live coverage, sharp analysis, real perspective At home or on the go. Stay connected when it counts. Stream Fox News on Fox One Download today. And interestingly enough, in history of Israel, as many of you guys know, because I know you guys go to a biblically based church. so you understand this that the record of Israel is that there is constant invasion and warfare. in the promised land. because of this, the land rarely has a chance to flourish uninterrupted. And every so often when a king rises up you know, they unify their people, they fend off the enemies, and for a brief moment the people can finally enjoy peace. And it's not the peace that their military brings. It's the only type of peace that God can grant true, true peace where there's lasting prosperity and the people can flourish. And so the theme of Psalm one hundred forty four is this, Praise and prayer to God because of who He is, not just what He gives So again, this song is it's a battle song. It's a call to arms, but it's also a call to trust and it's a call to worship and it's a call to prepare Okay Call to arms, call to worship, call to trust, call to understand that there's conflict in Israel at all times. And this is like, you know post genocide. So I don't love that. But there was still something that was gnawing at me beyond the fact that like I said, James Catus is this like Egyptian pastor that's like radically pro Israel that she does a lot of work with And he's very involved in Charting pointoint USA. This is literally his Prger video. I'm an Eyptian pastor who supports Israel And finally, it dawned on me, okay B you Next up in our timeline She gives the speech irrespective of what her husband's literally going through at this exact same time, donors pulling out, yelling at him as soon as he gets off stage. He's telling Tucker to go max anyways, a president, I say just calling him. this is his wife. She knows this is all going on. okay? If anybody's beefing with my husband, I'm the enemy Like I'm like with my husband one hundred percent. There's no halfway with that. I'm not going to say something cute to you. I'm going to be like off the Israel train immediately. Right after this on july eighteenth, that's when the request goes in. For UVU, we still don't know who submitted that request. I told you it is literally never happened that you instantly get a spot, the first spot of a semester tour. There's such a long waiting list to have Charlie go speak at their schools, but they suddenly made one. It's this july twentieth thing that it suddenly dawned on me. What was bothering me about Erica being introduced pro Israel and being pro Israel on stage in the midst of everything Charlie was going through july twentieth Ish Charlie vacationed in Maine for a couple of weeks. Okaykay? So let's just say from july twentieth to july thirtieth he went off radar. And this is when Mikey McCoy andiz and Elizabeth McCoy joined them for the first time on vacation and they capture all of these images that were're then going to see as soon as Charlie's assassinated, these images of him walking with Erica, like, you know, just kind of, oh, this is a happy couple And then right after, in the midst of this, the same two weeks, YRfi comes in as the number one sponsor for Charlie Kirk's Ball Tour. This is a total Israel coded company. It was weird because they had already signed a contract from January through December for all their events, but now they doubled down. what catalyzed that like sudden addendum to their contract? Like, yes, we want more. We're going to come in for this speaking tour that you're now going to do and the first one's going to be at UVU and me, the CEO is going to travel with you this event. Okaykay. that seems a bit weird T tught me, I totally forgot something, okay? And I'm just gonna have to ask Tucker for forgiveness for sharing this because I knew that there was something bothering me about this main vacation I had a baby And I think I blacked out after Char's assassination and didn't remember that I went up to Maine two I went up to Maine with my husband in July, okay. My son was born on may first, We were off air. And then the first thing I did was I went with my newborn Roman and my husband up to Maine to do Tucker's showow And I did an interview and I genuinely forgot about this. L I genuinely forgot about this and we went in on the topic of Israel. I'm just going show you a a little ten second clip here so you can get an idea what I'm talking about. Since the eighties, Jeffrey Epstein has been working for Israel I don't know how I know that and Trump and Pimbandi don't, but they got to bring me in. Like I might have some evidence here Right It's like So it's we're getting to a point now. We're going to have tough confirmation hearings. I just I just want them to say F you. Like seriously that would feel better at this point if they just came out and said, F you, N boooo, you can't touch us. We rule over you. H haa. That would feel least authentic going back to Till the Runch thing, you know? I'd be like I really don't like that, but at least it's authentic and I know you mean it and it's true.. Totally fair. Yeah Do does any of I mean, to the extent that we can project forward and guess Do does any of this come out? I mean, to a great extent than it has? I mean, is there ever like a public resolution of this story? No, because Israel's controlling our government. So no, The answer is no, Trump is powerless against him. We haven't had, I don't think we've been a sovereign nation since they shot JFK. And when I say they people online say What do you mean by they? I'm talking about Israel. I don't want you guys to like, you know read what you want. I'm talking about Israel. So like let's stop making that a taboo subject because they've gone mask down. everything they're doing is demonic. I want nothing to do with it. I will never support Israel into the future after what they've done to these children. The starvation campaign. I don't care I promise you, I forgot that. I forgot that I had this, I forgot that I went out up to Maine until I was looking at this Erica speech and I was like, I know what is bothering me about this speech. What's bothering me about this speech is that when I got off air with Tucker, obviously you just have chatter, like just chatter in the air. like about everything we just discussed and what's happening and everything we said there, we're talking about Epstein And Tucker said to me and I'm I'm Obviously, I'm not going to get this verbatim, but he was like Yeah, he talks about his SaS speech and he just said they're like, you know, taking money from Charlie because of this whole speech. And I was like, yeah, you know, Charlie's kind of coming over to our side. He's really had an awakening about this.. crazy and I forgot But it's the second part of what he said to me. He said, I just had dinner with him in Erica They were just here. I think he said like last night, I kid you nibes. They were just there in Maine having dinner with Tucker. I remember this. I am one thousand percent certain days within me, it was like Charlie was there and then I was there And he had dinner with Erica and he said something, which is the reason why I was happy when they announced that Erica was going to be CEL because before we could have ever known that Charlie was going to be assassinated as we were sitting here in Maine talking about Israel and Ebine and what the pressure that Charlie was under Tucker was like, I absolutely love Erica. He said this publicly a thousand times so I'm not revealing anything here. and he was like She is like Hard core on the anti Israel train and that she had gone in on dinner everything And that, you know, this is who this is who Erica was. And I was like, Ohh wow, L I actually never got to spend that kind of time with her. L I know I know Trolles from the other side I' never speak to Erica like that And they had had the dinner in the midst of all of this s stuff and I happened to be in Maine And when I look at that and I plot that on the timeline, it convinces me that Erica is a psyopath genuinely convinces me that Er psychopath because and please talkuck her, forgive me. I had to share that. I know you like her. I know you're a fan of Erica. I know we have different opinions and different perspectives This doesn't make sense this does not make sense that Erica gets on stage and is pro Israel, blinks and is at dinner and is anti Israel, more anti Israel than Tucker. I mean than Charlie. As we're talking about all this Epstin stuff and Charlie's under pressure. And then as soon as Charlie passes away, she's up on stage with Barry Weiss, saying anybody who doesn't support Israel has brain rot That's a psychopath. That is that is somebody who can be someone else in every room. And we have told this story over and over again about Erica. She literally just commutes her entire personality Dpending on who' in front of. Like there is no personality. It's who, who is the audience I'm a Catholic if I'm in the back of a church. And I'm with this donor who's got a lot of money and Stacy taps on their shoulder and I share how Charlie was about to become Catholic. And then the woman, as I shared with you guys, gets on a plane, brings back a relic of Saint Michael because Erica' so hardcore Catholic And then she blinks and she instructs Andrew Colvetz to deny what I said about Charlie and the Catholic church literally the next week She oKays Alex Clark coming out and saying I'm a liear. Eric's a psychopath. I this this is like I just it just dawned on me. She was playing this game while Charlie was alive And if I didn't do this timeline, if I didn't remember that I was in Maine having this casual conversation when everybody was friends and Charlie was alive and Charlie was under a lot of pressure would have probably would not have reflected. on this little tidbit proves that Erica's a psychopath. She's not she wasn't a grieving widow in August and July Okay. She wasn't a grieving widow She was a manipulative psychopath who puts on a different outfit, a different costume, depending on what play she has to put on Okay. that's that's just like an established fact Erica is, she has demonstrated over and over again the attributes of a psychopath Tucker, I'm Ati Israel I'm with Barry Weiss. People who don't support Israel have brain rot, brain rot I'm with an Egyptian pastor. I love Israel. There's conflict here because of a call to arms That's not normal How weird if you had learned that after doing this podcast I was just yucking it up with Ben Shapiro talalking about how much love is Yamaka growing You'd be like, that's weird And Oh I was like, oh gosh, these like terrible Palestinians, they don't have a right to any land. Who are they? They don't even exist. Palestine doesn't exist. That would register to you that I was a psychopath because it's hard to do that. It's hard to perform in front of people I don't understand genuinely, genuinely How Tucker can like her? I don't I don't and maybe it's because he is Uually often about fishing, doesn't watch a lot of podcasts, highighly doubt that he is watching the timeline and the conflicting Ericas Just all time. She's graduated school, she's not graduate school. Everything she says is in conflict with the thing that she said yesterday because there is no personality Elizabeth Lane clocked her correctly. She is whatever she needs to be on her way empowerment She was not a grieving widow to I'm going to have to politely request that you already shut up in trying to defend why it would be that she was being two different people within one week when she should have just been anti because of how her husband was being treated behind the scenes I got to get off my ch What follows that is august fifth to sixth, the Hamptons's retreat. I mean this timeline' crazy to look at to me. now, crazy Hampton's retreat intertervention, The influencer sponsored by Bill Ackman, who just was mentioned on stage about the Epstein stuff, not about the Epstein stuff pardon me. But in relation to him asking questions, Tucker asking questions about Israel and where certain money' coming from, He brings up Bill Ackman, his wealth. This also caused panic on the backke end. This is Charlie Summit that Charlie himself described as an intervention that Erica was present at, but she would allow people to lie. BB calls him, offers to take turnurning pointoint to the next level in exchange for what, we still don't know, but Charlie declines. Charlie says no to BB Trump I believe, said yes Trump said yes Carlly said no, my opinion, I'm sticking to it Especially after reading that Epstein piece, Eespecially after what Tucker has revealed about Butler all Israel coded. It makes sense. It is in our face. The puzzle has been coming together forever. It's the very first thing they lied about was to protect Israel. No one would have cared if his opinion was shifpped on Israel because it could just be that's allowed But all the lies that were told about it Yeah, that means it's a clue Then august fifteenth, Erica. go to the A the Aspin investor retreat, but she doesn't actually go to the meeting even though she's I guess going to be CEO or whatever And Charlie justaoints her a couple weeks before he dies, changing his mind on everything he's ever said, every position he's ever held about women Teline is not right We're already at thirty six minutes. I haven't even gotten to telling you about the FOIA response. You know, Dom, let let's take a quick break here. We'll go to ads and then we'll come back and discuss Bradley Hansel this bizarre response that we got back. 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I strongly push back on that because a sociopath is able to relate to people socially Okay They wouldn't have made the same mistakes that Erica has made. and this is why her press has been a disaster. Because just as Elizabeth Lane spelled out when she wrote that really long tweet about what makes people uncomfortable is that She doesn't know, her face doesn't know how to match the expressions, the feelings that she's having. She doesn't know how to behave normally. Socicialopath can do that. They can they can like, you know emulates humanity. They would know like maybe six days after your husband get shot in the neck, you shouldn't be able to jump on a zoom call. You don't have to have guidance or PR to tell you that that's not normal Beyond that, she was in the office immediately then There were two days Erica was back in the office walking around bringing her kids there. That's a psychopath to be able to float between emotions, but also to not understand human emotions. In every room, Erica is someone different. The ability to lie to my face in the way that she lied to my face about saying that Andrew Colbt went rogue me discovering this like random conversation that I had with Tucker, remembering this random conversation, like genuinely my little sister, She told me Obviously I was not eating, I was not sleeping, after Ch I got killed, and then I was like almost tricking myself into believing that he might be alive. L going like genuinely going through every stage, including bargaining thinking he was actually being held somewhere and maybe in like protection because Trump would not let this happen. whatever. And my sister said to me, she's like, when you experience something like this You know someomebody that you know, someone that you're close to dying and that they died. like it damages your brain. Like you're not even I can't remember certain things that happened right after. And I totally forgot that I went to Maine. L I have been doing this timeline forever. I've been wondering like try toigure out like,h when were they in Maine were they maine And then suddenly itaed me because you were in Maine You were in Maine and you like I promise you, Tucker must have said I just had dinner like the night before with Charlie and Erica or two nights before Charlie and Erica, I just came in And I might have even like texted Charlie to see if he was still in Maine. I have to check And it just dawned on me that that's what is weird Erica was anti Israel And that is the reason why I was relieved. because I instantly thought things were weird and met other people were involved in his assassination, didn't think his wife But I was like, great, at least Erica will be skeptical of these people. And this girl was like, Hey Barry, Wise. Hey, Ben, you want to open it AFest We're going big, we're going into a deeper partnership with International Fellowship of Christian and Jews The company We blinked and the company turned into APAC under Erica's stewardship And she was not under duress. She's not under duress. She's operating behind the scenes and calling all the shots So I just need to express again that I truly believe she's a psychopath. I truly believe that the signs were there. leading up to Charlie's assassination before she was a widow. Moving on to Bradley Hansel, okay? So just to remind you, he is Trump's appointed Underseecretary of Defense for intntelligence and Security, one of the Pentagon's top intelligence officials responsible for overseeing defense intelligence and security matters all across the DOD. okay We have been asking this question, what exactly was he doing at Fort Watchua in September just before Charlie's assassination. Now, Fort Watchua is not just some army base, It is a major hub for military intelligence cyber operations could make sense thatities there, Obviously, networks and intelligence surveillance reconnaissance. and we were able to determine that he was on this multi leg trip. that revolves around Fort Wachua. just raises a lot of questions about Who he was meeting with on these dates that we were interested in because of the meeting that Mitch Snow stumbled upon, which we have proved. he stumbled upon a meeting. We cannot yet definitively state that he saw who he saw. He believes he saw Brian Harpole. We have not seen any evidence to the contrary, openply and kindly reaching out to Brian Harpole asking for that information. What we got was a lawsuit, okay Anyways, this is Bradley Handel's itinerary for you guys that you guys tracking this can take a look And to see where he went, he went from joint base Andrews in Maryland, obbviously that were outside of DC. And then he flew to Colorado Springs. and he went from Colorado Springs and flew to Tucson, Arizona. the Air Force base at Davis Monton. and then he flew from Tucson to Fort Wachua on a most crucial date. Um september eighth. So this raises two obvious questions. whyy the stop, the brief stop in Tucson when Fort Wua is just like fifty miles away from Tucson, by the way Who did he pick up? That's a pick upu, right? That's I would assume that's a pickup. Who did Bradley Hanll pick up to continue to Fort Watchuga on september eighth The very next day on the ninth, that's the day where that meeting allegedly concluded Um that Mitch Snow saw. that same plane then flies from Fort Wachua to El Paso and arrives at one twenty PM local remains on the ground for four hours and ten minutes and then it returns back to Joint base Andrews just outside of DA. Um Who did he drop off in Texas That's another question Right? These these are registering to me like pick up and drop off, maybe landing for a meeting. Wh's in those meetings Now the timing of this makes Fort Watchua stand out as the center of the trip for one because Bradley Hansel remained on the ground the longest there. For nineteen hours, that's the longest stop in his trip. He opted to stay overnight at Fort Watchua Before departing the next day for El Paso, he did a quick little twenty minute helicopter tour of the border on that morning as well before he departed for El Paso What was he doing there on the eighth? What was he doing there on the morning of the ninth For comparison, when I say that was a very long stay there relative to the rest of his trip in Tucson and El Paso, he was only on the ground for four hours four hour ground stop and Th he's on for a very long time. He's at Port Watchua. Colorado Springs was the second longest overnight stop. That was sixteen hours, okay Also, of course, september eighth is significant because it's the day that Mitch Snow is convinced that he saw Erica Kirk at Fort Watchua leaving a hotel, okay? Well, what hotel did Bradley Hansel stay at on Fort Watchua on the eighth That's interesting We'd like to know. So we decided to file an FOIA request for his travel locks. That's the beauty of everything being paid for by the tax dollars is that we have this ability to file an FOYA request Who did he pick up? That's what we wanted to know whoo was on board with Bradley Hanel And we got a very unusual response. Now we have been following a lot of these requests, like we're going to be experts by the end of this And we've heard, hey, you need to make your request more specific or hey, this department doesn't have your request This is the first time that we've been told We're number three thousand on a list and we're not going to be able to get back to. We don't know when we're going to get back to Here's the exact language of the response that we received. to figure out who was on this plane with Bradley Hansel from Tussa to Fort Wachua quote Although we have already begun processing your requests, we will not be able to respond within the FOIA's twenty day statutory time period as there are unusual circumstances. which impact our ability to quickly process your request. The FOIA defines unusual circumstances as the need to search for and collect records from a facility that's geographically separated from this office or B The potential volume of the records responsive to your request, so A and B is not us. C The need for consultation with one or more other agencies or the Department of W Components having a substantial interest in either the determination or the subject matter of the records Okay, let's read that again becauseuse that's going to be us, right? We're not asking for a lot. We're asking for a travel log. Who else is on this plane? So you know, it's not too big. It's not because of the volume of records. It's not geographically separated from this office. He works for the Department of warar and it was the flight was booked from his office. I've confirmed that. o So we're at sea why they can't out of this in twenty days. This would be the logical option C I'm going to read it again. becausecause of the need for consultation with one or more other agencies, or the Department of War Components having a substantial interest in either the determination or the subject matter of the records, At least one, if not more of these scenarios apply or We would likely or would likelyly apply to your request While this office does handle FYA requests for the OSW, the JS, and other component offices, we do not actually hold their records. casically they're going over the geographic, that's on us. We do not hold the records. They do hold these records. It's him It says then that we are unable to estimate the potential volume of records. okay, that's on us orr this last one. Y request has in place in our complex processing queue being worked on based on the order in which the request was received Our current administrative workload is approximately three thousand five hundred and thirty four. This is an FOY AFU And FYFU. That's what it is. I didn't know we could file for that. We did. Apparently we received it. FYFU, Candace We have to talk to some other departments about your request and that could take a while because they have an interest in why you want to know who was on Sam seven hundred two in Bradley's plane. And that just means that we don't have to do the twenty day thing. whichich is like by law, but then there's this little carve out that says that if we have to communicate to other agencies like maybe the FBI, Cash Patel, I don't know. Trump The executive office, we don't we can your number three thousand five hundred and thirty four FYF you, Candace Weird First time we've seen it Guys I'm happy to report that we are number three thousand five hundred and thirty fourth in line to never receive a request from the government about who was on that plane. for Wua Absolutely stunning truly sign I't w right up through my m guys we're not going being be able to cover everything else Like we're like, it's already late today. and my daughter has a little bit of a fever. Let's we'll do u I produce another ad break, and then I'm gonna to get some of your comments. back All right, you guys, for two hundred and fifty years, the promise of America has been the freedom to build something on your own. And for millions of families, that dream begins with owning a home. But in a blink of an eye, that American dream can turn into a nightmare. 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Let me know if you pull it. it' not no big deal, you can always just sa say it for Monday but it just further illustrates my point about like herer changing face of emotions like she doesn't know how to emote correctly or why people find her to be strange because she doesnn't have any experience with these emotions. Um and that it just strikes me as so out. I'm so bothered by that trip to Maine And I'm bothotherered because there was there wass no intent. It was just like people just talking about what was going on. Everybody's friends Nothing against Eric. I was like, oh, amazing, whatever. And that was what was in the back of my head when I was at first relieved because I was like, she will look into whether or not there was an Israel angle here and we got the exact opposite thing. Anway, I want to shout us out. and I want to give a special shout out to my producer, Ashley, who worked really hard. I do want to clear up some rumors though, because some people were alleging It was a CVS receipt when we showed Larry Loomerss reived that's that is fake news. It's conspiracy. That was a true Loomer receipt. We were happy to have Loomer here. and we're grateful that X picked up the trend and recognized that Larry Loomer was int office. Check this out. On X, Loomer confronts Owens on show over Kirk conspiracy theories. We were very happy to be joined by Larry Loomer. She appeared in person, X tells us on show to debunk her theories, debunk my theories. It also says that Owens mocked Loomer's reipts with a clown emoji and a fake long receipt clip Al Lumer called a cringe. That's just It wasn't fake it was real. We're just trying to keep track of all of Loomer's receipts because she kind of lets them go. And we had time. And so we really thank Larry Loomer for joining us. Top comment from yesterday's episode, by the way, Kayley said, My day does not feel complete until I hear Candace hit us with the classic. All right, you guys. I don't know why I always say that. just feels right All right, you guys, is it allright? I don't know, but it is when you're watching this show This user writes, Breaking news, Ivanka just told her dad that the Albanians are two weeks away from having a nuclear bomb. They are That sounds right to me That seems like the next logical step of the story. because yeah, if you want the land then they're just they're probably working on a nuke. That'll help the narrative. I believe her I belie I Vanka. She's just she she had the aura sound behind her. so, you know, I'm team I'm team Maca Oh. greatreat. my producers were able to pull the Erica clip. This is like The end of her speech when she got heckled and called pedophile protector. A lot of emotions happening in her face Anyway, this take a listen a fixed disposition that radiates through actions Every choice made. for a good reason makes a good Mart in your soul Every choice made for a bad reason. Makes a bad mark in your soul And one day All of this All of this This life Every win That makes me so uncomfortable. The criticism The heartbreak, the joy and the sorrow It'll all be reduced to dust But what you etched in your soul remains forever So build a life that can survive eternity. Welcome to the Women's Leadership suummmit so grateful. Bless you all. It's like a really bad daytime soap opera acting Why was she shaking no One day One day etches. in your soul will be forever in your soul You will take it to dust Welcome to the womomen's Leadership summit That' weird.'s, it's weird. It's authent.'s practed'shearsed It's written you. It's obvious, this is not how people speak. Just be normal. stop shaking your head. no while you're saying yes. Anyway We'll standnd to comments from today's episode. We're already running overtime. It's Friday and I'm completely inappropriate Tucker forgive me. I hope you're fine with me sharing that. I just literally came to my head right before we went live. and I was like, this is what bothers me about July Ttally forgot. Erico was anti Israel in Ju allegedly xammit writes, this fourth of July let's all remember that it's we the people and not we the elites, President Trump. Please resign if you have any dignity left. He has no dignity left. There's no point. Um He's just going to do what he's told to do. He has no courage. Forgetot the diggity. He has no he's a coward Allally Wrightes Tucker recently said TP USA didn't invite him this year. It adds to the theory that they took out Charlie because he gave Tucker a platform and was abandoning Israel. They had to keep him for amFest twenty twenty five because Charlie publicly fought his donors over Tucker. Oh there was no question they were going, you know push out Tucker push out Meghgan. I don't like like I said, that it just has No energy behind it anymore. It's just over. The organization died with Tucker I mean, died with Charlie, pardon me Sarah writes TP USA tactics, come on Dan. Although you imagine what he had to do or agree to to be able to get back to his podcast, yeah. it was just weird. likeike he's like an he's just angry. He's like yapping and like you're like, you're not saying anything of substance, you're not debunking Tucker And just this tough guy act of like you think I can't beat up Tucker? Like that is so played out that Tucker's not gonna to fight you. Like what are you talking about? He wears boat shoes and goes fishing, He's like a chill guy Cool doing that Yeah That's so unbelievably lame ube writes they keep saying Charlie and Candace weren't friends. Why then did Erica meet Kanace in such a tight schedule? And why did Andrew call Kandace the very first day and shared so many things? Make it makeakes sense, TPSA. They can't. They're just trying to delete Charlie's history, Charlie's perspective, Charlie's friendships. They fought viciously to do it. They couldn't sell it. They had a ton of money to put behind this narrative that Charlie and I didn't talk. The Us magazine article, Charlie was afraid to talk to Candace. What are you like We traveled together for years Gears afraid to talk today me calling, scared to pick up my calls. literally Eric's got his phone published how many times Candace Owens has called Charlie Kirk I don't do calls. It's just not my thing. It's just I don't like it's just the in your ear, You know what I'm talking about? I don't like AirPods for the same reason I just feel like it's putting stuff in my brain. So I just don't do calls, I just text And I never answer my text messages. I'm terrible at that. It's just not, I'm not a Pone communicator, It's not my thing. Coach E writes when TP USA dropped the trolling video, they introduced it to a room full of women, not us. therefore TPSA was trolling women. Well what's excuse is just not adding up. Have you heard of the Leah files? her TP USA audit is legit? I have not heard of it And I wish I could have done an audit of some sort, but I try to stay within my skillet. I can organize. I you know, that's why I got so many ks I can do a timeline. I can't be the person that's behind the accounting. So. Um Yeah, I actually should go look at some of the videos of people who have been doing that. Someone's feral GG writes gate kid activated knowing the SI op is half the battle Goax, Christ is king Totally agree. Risis King, truth is winning, and they are angry and on the run Um I think The I read all of them. I sa the Ikpt one I didn't, I did' not skip one. lastly, Francesca writes Candice, you, Fancesca writes, you really need to investigate why Charlie's parents are not speaking out an interview would make sense. I fear they have been forced to stand back. They were always really private. so that didn't strike me as a surprise at all. They were fiercely private. I mean I only met them a handful of times when they came to a couple of Charlie's events. It's just not the way they operate Uh like I and I don't find that to be suspicious because it kind of it's like my in laws. Like they're not like There are people that just aren't wired that way and they would never want to be in they weren't involved in the face of politics, despite how big Charlie was, and it wouldn't be their natural thing to do so. That's my opinion. I don't think they're forced to stand back at all. I do wonder what they think about Erica I'd like to know If they're watching, maybe I do know that some people in his family do watch and do support Reach out, love to talk to you. I keep it all off record. I promise. Anyway, you guys you'd like to support the show. you can head over to more tips at candice Owens. comot And oh no, that that's so wrong. I'm sorry guys. I'm like still jet lag. Why would you guys give me more tips? You're making me look bad. If you'd like to support the show, you could head you could head to candas, Owens dot com. I don't know if I'm going be to book club. I'm just like Russia exhausted. I feel like book club people, please don't kill me. Can I move it to Monday P peopleople in book cllub, is it okay if I move it to Monday? It's like seven thirty five. I'm so tired. I have no more words They're gonna to have to forgive me. I'm gonna to put them in the tucker basket. Please forgive me, Tucker Please forgive me people in I book club because I'm gonna to have to bump this money. Can we do Monday? Tucker I mean, you're not Tucker, you're Sylar. There's no way I can do bookl. I think Tucker's in the control room. I'm coming apart on this Friday night. Skylar Okay Yeah, but I feel like I probably don't know when that's gonna to end. So I feel like can we just do like Monday, makeake Monday double I feel like Monday works because I'm like my brain is fried right now. I'm just having like a personal phone conversation on a podcast live with like seventy thousand people watching. This is completely crazy. I need to get off air. If you guys like to support the show, you go to Kandises. com and get some birch. We dropped our six million mug. That's why I wanted mion, we dropped our six million. It's pretty. She is pretty. Stop Ay Canisis I'm also gonna like start a goo fund me. 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