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From TRENDING! I Send Out Some Legal Letters. Victor Marx's Bizarre Text To Erika Goes Viral. | Ep 342 — May 20, 2026
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Hey, it's Christie from Lu Lleemon. I'm here at the office and we just dropped some really fun new summer colors in the Flow Y styles If you're like me, you've loved the Flow Y tank and bra for years, and as of this year, it also comes in a dress and a crop tank These are made in our buttery soft Nouu fabric, and my favorite part is the built in bra It makes it super easy to wear for yoga or honestly as an everyday basic. You can find FlowY sttyyles in store or online at lululemon. com All right, you guys, Hppy Wednesday. I know some people are not feeling too happy today because Thomas Massey lost in Kentucky. A lot of people are asking, what is what's going on with our country? Is this it? Can you just buy whatever you want But I'm going to be positive here. I'm going to say look up R? It does not mean everything. We are obviously plugged in. We see what is going on we are Also watching them tip into that unique phase of sheer arrogance. There's the sheer arrogance right now of the Epstein cllass. That's what they are. They are the Epstein class. They have they believe they have more money than God, right They think their money can buy whatever they want, anything and everything. theirir money can cover up murders and Rpes I tell you guys this though, I've been around. I've just seen these cycles in politics. The way Trump is speaking. I am MGa. I'm a king. I know what we're looking at It's a not so unique moment when Icarus flies a little too close to the sun. And know what happens after that. So just relax, wait, get ready Let's wait for midtermss. Let's see King of Mega can buy with his money Anyway, the fallout from Victor Markx's interview yesterday is trending all across social media and it inspired me to send out a few preservation letters in my ongoing lawsuit with Brian Harpol Welcome back to Candice. All right, quick shout out to Nimi Skincare for supporting today's episode. I am very intentional about the brands that I work with, and Nimi is one that I actually use clean, simple skincare made here in America. So visit Nimyskincare dot com and use my code, Candace tenenn at cheheckout for an additional ten percent off your order. Where should we begin? More happy news, I think. I'm just glad. I'm glad today that we made the decision to Allocate as much time as he wanted to Victor Marks yesterday. Go ahead, go for it, buddy, Gunatorial Kend it to Colorado And it was really something for a lot of reasons. I mean As many of you commented, rarely Do we get to see that sort of arrogance on display? There are a lot of little Icarus birdies flying around in America they compleplete lack of self awareness, believing that you are untouchable, you graduated to some class. people are do whatever they want and face no consequences. Also, as a side note, sort of incredible to see how many people he had Picture Marks had on his team helping him out with that interview. He took to X afterward and posted this little shot Hey everybody, Victor Mark here. I just finished a podcast with Chand to someone that I think will never be forgotten I want to appreciate my team here. You know, look, I always say truth will prevail and it did today I'm not mad at Candace. I don't have any anger toward her. a couple towns was passion in it because I am about protecting kids and Charlie's death Well I would say is for those of you who said, Victor doesn't debate That was a one hour No moderator debate That's why I've always told those other candidates. Yeah, let's get face to face. But look, all of this is started only because I entered into the political realm pereriod And and because I'm winning the governor's race. So Thank you all for your prayers that mattered and made a difference. We love y'all. Indeed, it did, Victor. I think it did make a difference and I do believe that truth prevails. So we can agree on that in the end. So it really got people up in arms yesterday. If you did not have time to watch it, really I would say it boils down to two things. First was the excuse that he offered which included irrelevant social media posting statistics for why it was that Victor Markx was seemingly the first person in Charlie's orbit to announce that Charlie had passed away Remember He told us that this declaration was completely standalone. He didn't even He hardly watched the footage of Charlie getting shot. He said he watched it one time, but then for some reason, Over an hour and twenty minutes later, he decided to formally announce that Charlie Kirk had passed away and to pray for Erica and the kids And he said he did this absent any confirmation, just Vibes that he got from the spepecial Forces guys around him knowledge about injuries, somehow he felt that that was enough information for him to fire up Instagram and report it to the world. that Charlie Kirk did not make it. Take a listen to what he told me, It's important Obviously a big question that we have had is you were first to post a video that was later on removed saying that Charlie had passed and this R video was about an hour and twenty minutes before the president's announcement Um, it would have been to the minutes about the time that his family found out that he had passed away or the people that were at the hospital have found out that he had passed away. So do you explain how you found that out and why you chose to remove the video Well, yeah, I'm first interested to find out. Why y'all think I was the first or one of the first you know, to to do that because U I mean, a rough estimate There's between one to three million pieces of social media content produced every second worldwide Uh and You know, my team looked it up. If there's one hundred eighty million posts per minute And let's just see the first thirty minutes We're talking five point four billion posts in thirty minutes How could y'all narrow it down? what type of technology Cid Jon Dut to narrow down that I was one of the first ones to post that he had passed. let's put it in a context, that's easier. The first person in Charlie's orbit that announer information. and we put it down to the minute it was when Erica found out Chie was had passed away. so I was wondering how how that work. Okay. I had someone text me And he said, My son Is at Charlie's event and Chroley was just shot and it doesn't look good. Um We went on it. I watched Charlie being shot one time and my team Many who are former Special Operations guys and combat mics, lots of experience They viewed it multiple times because I wouldn't And they said, Charlie I said Charlie wouldn't live from that. and I I knew it. first I knew the only time I saw it I knew there's no way he could have survive that and When I made a post and said You know, Charlie's past. Of course, I know Frank Turre. I know the security teams put it up And then I didn't see anybody else posting it. I thought it was premature and I pullred it down because it just felt Wrong that I would post it I wanted people to pray. Yeah. I don't believe that for even one second because Common sense That's the thing that I suffer from. I know many people at home, you guys also suffer from this chronic condition in today's world. Common sense, Victor He just said, you're friends with Frank Turk. fronts of the security guys You told us elsewhere in the interview that Eileen and Erica, they got so close because your wife, your bride Mentors, Erica You were so close to Charlie's security apparatus, in fact, that you were able to swiftly coordinate taking over for them A mere forty eight hours later. in Phoenix, remember Yeah, you said, oh, you know, they were tired, they were stressed. You guys came in and your team took over the security apparatus So we can bet, I think Confidently place a bet that you didn't sit there texting nobody for an hour and then moving to simply guess that Charlie was dead. You were just sitting there twidling your thumbs, did all these contacts with people in the inner circle and say I'm And gonna wait fifty minutes And then I'm going to anounce Roa Charlie said, That defies logic. I don't like people expect me to be stupid and that expects me to be stupid That's how it works is that when you know people, when you're in the inner orbit, you utilize those resources to get information. You don't stand back and guess with the rest of the world. K of like how I was texting Andrew Colvet Because why would I stand back? guuess Charlie's condition when I know the people directly involved who can provide me with real information. Nobody would do that, Victor You text people you know. I know Frank Turk, I know security teams That's what you said, right? You text those people for information. and the obvious sensible message to send initially Is is Charlie Okay What's going on? What's happening? OMG. I just saw the news. Is he okay Now if for some reason you opted not to do that, Victor and you simply twiddled your thumbs for fifty minutes and then ventured to guess. that he was dead and decided to post a selfie video then that is extraordinary. That is to me extxtraordinarily suspicious. Okay? Here's what a normal text message exchange should look like between somebody No idea that their friend was going to be shot september tenth and had access to people who could provide immediate updates as to what their friend's condition was. Okaykay, Here is a text exchange between me and Andrew Covet on that day. Please say he's okay. I wrote I don't know. Pray Shot for sure, Andrew writes back. I said we just prayed before I texted. Any details on where he was shot? I amm freaking out He says in the neck head area I said, I saw the footage. I cannot deal with this Do you see the problem here You're saying that you didn't do that. You didn't do that. You didn't text for an update. You had no idea what was going on. You just were sitting around. didn't te you just sitting around and you Tarol Farnesworth it You decided for an hour to do nothing until it was time to record yourself You texted nobody that you had access to and then you randomly hopped onto Instagram In selfie mode to declare to the world that Charlie was dead Prematurely absent any intel. I don't believe that for one second. That story has about as much credibility with me as a three year old beheading a cat and wearing it on his head. actually would rank the three year old beheading the cat and wearing it on his head as more likely. That registers to me as less fiction than the story that you are telling that that you're telling me that I supposedly transpired on that day So then I'm forced ask myself, Victor, why would you say it would to say it's so easy to instead say, well The reason why I was the first to text it fifty minutes later, which is about the time Erica found out Well, me and my bride, you know we're close Eica. That's what you could say. We were close Erica. We were in that inner sanctum and we found out I don't know we messaged Andrew Colvatt, we messaged the security team. That wouldn't be weird, right? A Turk and the security team should have been the first to know that Charlie was dead and took to the hospital Why instead try to tell to the public that you took a random shot in the dark If I had to guess, I would say it's because you're protecting someone. Who is that someone Maybe you're protecting something What is that something? The good news is that I actually don't have to guess because I'm currently being sued Brian Harool of Charlie's security team. And since you mentioned that you were in communication with a security team, so much so that you were able to relieve them their duty So you said elsewhere in the interview You took over the security apparatus. That's why you were with Erica. and we were able to hug her and Eileen were able to provide such relief to the team They were ret tired, they were traumatized Imagine that took some communication your communications with the security team during those critical hours might be relevant to my lawsuit. Maybe Brian or Dan communicated to you that they about what they didn't do all they could do Maybe that's why they were traumatized. I don't know I really don't know, Victor But I'm going to need to find out because I'm being sued for defamation which is why we sent earlier today at Victor Marks a legal preservation letter And I hope that we can get to the bottom of what actually transpired on that day And I think Victor might be able to help because he did in fact say this. And then you were among the first to post, you know, obviously you and your wife. Actually, maybe it was actually just you in the first two days that went to Erica and Charlie's place to provide her U some comfort So you were quite close to Erica. We brought our team immmediately to help give relief for the first security team who I knew when I was in contact with and They were suffering trauma and exhaustion. they didn't have a secondary So yeah, we went there Of course my bride was with me Her and Erica are very, very close And we were just standing by to bring comfort or help, the number one need they had And we felt like it and we were asked to is to provide security. to give relief. So that's what we did Sorry kind of you I'm interested in learning more about that through the power U subpoena And frankly, Victor's subsequent admission regarding what he texted Erica while she was at the hospital raised even more eyebrows online because here's what he said And then I contacted I got to a text and told her I was st Nobody's gonna kill you. You're safe, you and the kids No one's coming after you. They just wanted Charlie And I was just trying to reassure Be you declared he was dead on the basis of people saying it didn't look good on the basis of people Myself included who've had Held dead and dying men from combat in horrible situations. And anybody who saw the killing and has that experience, No We knew he was dead instantly Yeah 's not adding up. in Texasse see if he was alive but then suddenly said, you're totally good. They only wanted to kill Charlie. Wh's they? Who is they They only wanted to kill Charlie. you and the children are fine. How could you say that? Would that be your first text to a widow? I feel like that's the first text to the widow. We're missing something And hopefully we can start to put the puzzle pieces together because we also sent out Some more preservation letters is also sent one to Paramount, not so tactical. I am willing to get into the weeds here. It is odd Everything they are saying is odd. everyone around Erica It's just odd Right? Who would say those things? Who would text her notot to see if Their husband is at alive. obsane, but then swoop in to say, they only wanted to kill Charlie, you're all good And there's something else that I learned that I hadn't shared. I actually learned this some time ago, but today feels like a good time to do so prereface this with the fact that this came from Erica So it is of course Plausible. Always plausible that she lied can confirm that she said it to multiple people to me but to multiple people. I have evidence of that In the weeks following Charlie's assassination, she shared with people that Charlie and her were due to sign updated end of life documents on september fifteenth. Let me say that again Charlie and her had an appointment and a date to sign updated End of life documents on september fifteenth, the Monday after he died That is remarkable timing. Charlie We just about to update his will Th then he didn't make it to Monday. Like I said, I trust the sources on this one So how are we to interpret that? Okaykay two options here. Neither one of them is particularly a positive outcome for Erica, I might add Option one is that Erica was lying when she shared this information Perhaps it's totally plausible. she said it out of insecurity. feeling that people might wonder why she was taking over his entire company remarkably despite having the ability to spe present that in his will, a corporate will, his personal will, to say I express this is my desire. Charlie hadn't particularly documented that desire, or else he would have been told that So this would sort of rank similar to her telling Meghan Kelly that Charlie had only just expressed an aspirin three weeks before his untimely death But he was abandoning his ten year publicly expressed desire for women to prioritize their home life and their children above climbing the corporate ladder It was in my opinion, not something that he actually said outside of AI tools, but something that they thought They would have to pretend he said to assuage public questions and concern the seemingly contrary move. So that's an option. There's an option that she just said that to someone in the same vein. Oh, you're probably wondering why I'm taking over his whole life here, Why I'm going to be on that Air Force board and why I'm going to be giving speeches and going on tour and being the CEO and chairman. Well, Charlie, it was crazy timing. Charlie was actually just about to update his end of life documents. to reflect his brand new feminist desires that he had come on very quickly three weeks before his untimely passing Alas That's an option. That's an option she just liked option two Is that America is not lying and that Charlie and her did indeed have an upcoming appointment on september fifteenth to adjust is Will in Testament The question becomes to what end and why? okay You don't just update your will Pfunzes That's not how it works. If you don't have a will, let's say You just don't do that. It's a lot of paperwork, especially for somebody as fly highing as Charlie Kirk. Eespecially if you're saying you're going in You had an appointment to do it. That's this is not a little update that's happening. There are life events E time I have a child, You have to add a kid to your will. Okaykay. So they already get it. We're going to divide this amongst the children There's one more kid. that gets done via email When you are going in to do an update There has to be a life event that warrants that sort of a change example, you hit the lottery. Oh, we haveit the lottery. We've got billions. Let's get into that office and update our will and testament Maybe you would do it if you completely decided to switch who you were doing your life insurance with for some reason. Maybe you get a better deal. I don't know. That might be generally speaking, another reason that you were going in change your will. It signals that there was a major shift in your personal life. So the question necessary follow up question if Erica is telling the truth, is what was this life changing event What was the reason Erica and Charlie were just about to go in on the fifteenth ate his end of life documents. okay? There was no new kid there which again, would not require you to go in in most circumstances, could be different in Arizona What's the change Lest we forget. He already had Charlie already had and corporate life insurance policy, which included, I am told, a ten million dollars payout for Erica and the children he could have listed desires His corporate will his personal will. If he wanted Erica to become a CEO and chairman, since everybody is telling the Daily Mail, he said so many times it doesn't even matter Doesn't matter if that video exists or I think it's we're getting ahead of ourselves. The real thing is that every time, everywhere and every place, people had side conversations with him and he would just mention it. like just like just Charlie you wants some coffee? No, what I actually want is for my wife to take over my company in the event that I get shot That was it. Everyone knows it. It's just a no non Let me tell you guys something. Again, as sufferers of chronic common sense in literally every murder mystery ever in real life and within the world of fiction, a will change Or a desired will change on Monday In the near future A mist, an unexpected death event is something that investigators typically pay attention to So investigators If you'd like to reach out to me to receive the names of the people who Erica disclose this information to, I would be happy and willing to provide it anything to assist in the not investigation of Charlie Kirk that is happening from the FBI, the FBI, and the state of Utah. Let me know how I can not help If Erica is telling the truth, I cannot think of a life event that would have warranted a change in Charlie's will There may have been one But in the midst of Charlie telling people that ten million dollars was missing from his company allegedly In the midst of him establishing a Doge internal audit to locate this alleged ten million dollars which was subsequently canceled In the wake of his death, that audit was canceled. Why In the midst of him texting those closest to him and saying, they're going to kill me Tomorrow,'m I think I am going to be killed. I am fully within my right to wonder if he realized that there were a few snakes in his garden Who was going to benefit from his death Harlie actually make the appointment alone? Actually, that's a possibility too. Where his communicationations being monitored, he tried to carve out an appointment because he was fearful of some death event As he expressed. And did he try to radically then shift, learning that he had suspected somebody was taking money, siphoning money out of turningpoint USA, that his life was not what he thought it was? He's asking, I want Candis back. Why Wh does he wantanis spop because I told not to trust any of those people. All of the people that the world now sees are the snakes that were in Charlie's garden. I saw them first. and I warned Charlie about those people So what happened? Were they monitoring? I think they were. I believe I know everyone had access to everything. Andrew Crovet was running his Twitter Mikey had his laptop. by mean, everybody did have access to Charlie's everything because he was too trusting Did they find out somehow that he was going in to change his will? I don't know, but these are questions that ought to be asked when the entire narrative that is currently being present to us makes entirely no sense. just seems okay with it making no sense Actually know justust a little adjacent story ittle sidebar here Remember that grieving widow we told you about a few months ago The one in Utah ronically, he was found guilty of murdering her husband out in the But like not instantly Corei Richs was her name Her husband died of an overdose She then wrote a children's book and went on a public book tour to promote how to cope with loss, the loss of a with her grieving children, Are you withith me by Corey D Richs and media atpe that up. Here is a little to jog your memory about Coront Tor as the Gre and widow parent, a sibling or friend, talking about loss with kids can be a tricky subject. Joining us now is author of Are you with me, Corey Richs to share her three Cs to helping kids cope with grief ory I want to start with your story in your personal life So my husband passed away unexpectedly last year. so it's march fourth was a one year anniversary for us and he was thirty nine. It completely It took us all by shock And we have three little boys, ten, nine and six And you know, we kind of, my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced last year and you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids. you know, um, Deal with this and kind of, you know, find happiness some way or another. And to make sense and process, I'm sure. and I'm sure you felt that going through and trying to explain it and articulate it for you and your boys. Yes, exactly, exactly A month later, she would be arrested over a year after her husband had passed away. and I wanted to mention that because Changing wills Changing life insurance policy was a huge piece of the prosecution's case against her ' her husband? Eric Richs Also her victim gratefully and successfully managed to transfer his entire estate and business interests into his sister's name covertly few weeks before he passed away. before he was murdered was feeling like someone might kill him and that someone was his wife. And so he coordinated with his sister and transferred everything into her name. His wife had no idea he had done it y before he d and out of fear for figuring out who his wife was Sultaneously, the court heard Cori herself attempted to change the beneficiary of his corporate life insurance that she would receive it one hundred percent of the payout But she got caught Both of these changes signal to the jury that something was amiss was terrified of his wife Like I said, fortunately for Eric in his orbit and in his life that he was actually able to trust that information, that he was able to trust When he said, I think she's going to kill me anyway. Fasous sin aside I will re reititerate my earlier point that Anoney Tempted. or recently accomplished will changes surrounding an unexpected death event. should be further investigated. So You'd like to reach out to me investigators I'm here and ready to help. I suspect won't be hear it from you Dare I say, Erica, if you're interested? 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Maybe there's a reason Hly wanted to do that the same time that he thought people were going to kill him and he wanted to conduct a doj audit, maybe Maybe I don't know But I'd certainly like to find out and something else that they said. that was mentioned, which later confirmed by the Daily Mail. in their investigation into the AI video, uh, was that a Eric also communicated that a turning point USA board member was going to be helping them with those changes. Interestingly enough, you might recall from my daily mail article They said that they spoke to a TPSA board member who said that he was helping with those affairs. I wonder who that is I wonder who that is. It's probably one of the people that signed the letter announcing Erica, and this is if I'm just taking a shot in the dark. I would imagine it was one of the board members who announced that Erica was going to be the CEO and the chairman. Um mayaybe like a Doug DGrot, likeike Miller. I don't know Like I said, if I was an interested investigator These would be some crumbs that I would follow States and moving on, I want to let you guys know that I am still being ghosted by the White House. It's depressing really. I've never been ghosted Ashley, my producer has never been ghosted. This is the first time it feels weird. I feel like I was left on reed. the White House cororrespondence dinner communications are very relevant, which is why we filed an FOYA request. Erica Kirk written in as an emotional asset just over an hour after shots are fired, not concerned about safety, but in making sure that that video is number one in the morning is not something that we are going to let go. We need to keep the pressure on Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA because it's working. We are getting more information. They are making more foolish decisions I mean, how ill advisable Go to the Daily Mail to say We're going to host a little private screening with you. What was it on Zoom or something And we're gonna to show you how real this video is. it's so real We're the victims of the conspiracies, even though we're the ones that presented the video. Uh to tell people it existed and then decided to have Erica walk out to just the audio of it They just think they're smarter. That's right. So many little Icharus birdies just flying so close to the sun. We've got power, we've got money, we've got fifteen class connections. We could do whatever we want We'll see about that I'll see about that I me Vengeance does not belong to me. not at all Just seen it so many times people like this who just they have enough power bad people to lie and to dupe the public. They're not regular. They've classed up Anway, regarding the Whouse correspondsiner. We will keep the count down going and see how far this goes I want to provide you guys all also with a very ick upd and Tyler Robsase I think people had some questions yesterday because there was much ado about nothing in the press, a ton of articles being spun out to suggest that Tyler Robinson wanted to conceal the evidence from the public. He wants the evidence sealed from the public And the headlines, of course, were not representing reality. That's why they don't want, by the way, cameras in the courtroom. I do. I'm glad there will be cameras in the courtroom, but this has been their fear The headlines are not representing reality And yesterday was a prime example. This was the headline of Fox News, Tyler Robinson hear hearing the defense vies to restrict evidence and testimony in the Charlie Cirk assassination U AP News, laawyers for the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk asked to seal evidence in parts of a key hearing News Nation, lawyers for the accused Charlie Kirkshooter seek to seal evidence in court Okay, so let me walk you through what is actually happening. In short, there is no change Okay. The preliminary hearing is fast approaching. We discussed this. The defense still has not received their discovery requests ively U the state, the victim, Erica Kirk They want to be able to present during this preliminary hearing, all of this evidence that has not been prodded by the defense. evidence that ultimately when they get to the trial, they may say it's inadmissible Be it's inadmissible They can't argue that's admissible right now because they don't have the means to argue it. So what they're saying is if we must go through with this preliminary hearing. If you are insisting that this has to happen and we are not going to receive our discovery requests then you should seal. the quote unquote evidence in case it becomes in admissible down the line. There's evidence of that. I should we pull that page from the Tyler Robinson's filings where they list everything that they're asking to be sealsed and they demonstrate in the column. whyy they want it sealed Okay, we could we could pull it up later, but they're They're explaining very carefully We want this seal. we want this sealed because they're going in with hearsay evidence They' they're bringing five officers to say things. They're going to have Lance that Lance twwigs his testimony to say things, we need to be at a further place in this You're going to testify and show these text messages. you're going to show this, you're going to show that. We don't even know if these text messages are real So what would happen if they allowed the prosecution to present those text messages and they were not under seal What would happen is exactly what you just saw. You would have Fox News, you would have News Nation, you would have paramount not so tactical and their influencer orbit of people saying Booyall Woo yah see these messages, they are there in court. so now it's real I think the public is stupid and that they will not be able to sort through down the line. they think if you're first across the finish line, if we can just show this in court, people will think that it has been veted and it' iss legitimate. And so they are saying give the media the opportunity to spin something that may ultimately be proven inadmissible because it's fraudulent. And here is the documents that we're going to pull up here. We can get to that page that just shows and right hereere's thirty one. case in point to the FBI DNA reports. Right? The towel, the screwdriver, they haven't even been able to see this stuff have not they said they weren't even able to see the gun Listed thirty two, the ATF ballistics report. Yeah, they want this stuff sealed because ultimately, if they can't actually go through it and prove that it is legitimate or understand their methods for how they presented it, They may down the line say to the jury, never mind, that's in admissible. So do not color the public. Do not color jury with stuff that down the line may ultimately mean nothing. It makes perfect sense. There is no change All right, you guys. I do wantan to shift gears here I do not often weigh in on the podcast wars, so to speak. I think because I'm usually the one that's at the center of them. But there was a scriip that I went around that really or last week rather that really bothered me. and it bothered me for two reasons I obviously like Jerogan. I am friends with D Ovan. He's literally one of the best people that I know. My children absolutely adore him. I tell you that He's just exactly what you think he is, exactly what you get on his show is who he is and he is like the fun uncle, the funcle that everybody wants And I had seen earlier, I think it was a few months ago, that Joe Rogan had discussed Theo when he was sitting across from him. and Theo was rightfully venting about the Epstein class and the pedophile class. and it sort of seemed like Joe Rogan's response was to treat Theovon like a child that was just crazy and need to just chill out. And it's the way we all feel. We're very frustrated with the system And I said, okay, whatever, there's two guys talking. But then Theoan was not in the presence of Joe Rogan. and he was sitting across from someone discussing Theoan's SSRI usage. and this is what Joe Rogan said and it caused quite a bit of backlash. takeake a listen Yeah, Theo Von's going through the exact same thing Last time I was on the podcast, he was explaining it to me and it freaks me out because I know Theo has had conversations before. even publicly, he had a Netflix taping and it didn't go well. It was like they actually They shelved it. They never used it. you know, there was all these stories from people that were there saying he bombed. I think he just had a kind of a breakdown. And When he was talking to the crowd and there's a video of it, we said, you know, the people were saying, Hey, we still love you. thank you. Look,'m just I'm trying not to take my own life. That's what I'm trying to do right now. And like you hear stuff like that, you just go like, o, Jesus Christ. I've known too many people that I didn't think were going to kill themselves and then did And then he goes down these spirals where he starts talking about world events and freaking out. I'm like, God, Jesus Christ, I got to help this dude. And so I send him things about people getting off of them. And apparently there's some doctors that specialize in getting people off of them. Here's the thing about that chemical imbalance thing That's not real. They used to think that that was what these things do, that they treated a chemical imbalance. But then recently, studies have shown that that is not what they do They don't exactly know what they do. and they kind of numb you in some sort of a way that helps some people So To the portion that I very much agree with Joe Roganau was just at the very end, which didn't require anything about the Avan, which is my personal opinion about the drugs they put people on for emotional reasons. And I very much have shared my story of how lucky I was that I had a friend in college that when I went through a breakup and was boohoo crying, and the doctor wrote me a prescription of Xanax was like, you don't need Xenax. That's a human emotion.ike why would you want to take something that's going to stop you from feeling a human emotion. Nothing's wrong with you. It turns out you're just human. And so I get that part of the conversation. It was just sort of presenting as being compassionate by talking about Theo Bon. Like if he actually was in this dark place and his whole life was coming apart and you wanted to take his own life, that certainly wouldn't be the thing that helped him. That would actually be the thing that maybe tipped him over the edge, right? And so I looked at that and I said, what is what is that actually? What are we doing here and kind of caging it like you're a friend and you're concerned when any person who is concerned is a friend would not publicly do something like that. So I thought it was really icky and I was not happy about it. And then I saw I didn't say anything about him, always saying something now because I watched the back fourth Theo responded to that clip because it went viral and people were equally as like, what is that And the Obama responded and said, this is mostly cap. That's slang, by the way, I don't cap, I don't really know what it means. He's cooler than me. Sad to see this kind of stuff. I'm doing great. I'm a human being, which is a rocky ride, but I'm doing fine. thanks And yeah, being a human being is a rocky ride. And you never know the context of what somebody is saying to someone, whether they're kidding when they say something, like he told me it was wildly taken out of context. And he was like, Oh, I'm trying not to kill myself and everyone got all concerned. and so it I just didn't love it, I did not love it. And what I did really love though, was that Jeromey did some of these never done in the history of his show where he just recorded him apologizing. And I don't think it was motivated for selfish reasons. I really don't. I think I sense his sincerity in this. I don't think it was like, well, people are all mad at me because people have been mad at him very many times in the past and he's not apologizeed in this way. And I just wanted to play that because very rarely in in the podcast space do you ever see anyone apologize for anything. There's so much arrogance And this was cool. So I'm going to play it I apologize to Theo He knows I love him said that and we laughed and we joked around about it. and I apologize for the way I this but I felt like I need to explain to other people too to get It's like what was going on in my mind And it certainly wasn't like hovering for Israel and it certainly wasn't like trying to paint him out like he's damaged or treat him like a child, I just want them to be okay. And when you're dealing with someone you when you have like had experience dealing with someone that where it winds up going very badly And then you're just left with this feeling like what could I have done You know, I didn't a good job of it, you know, especially like the Marcus King thing. likeike that's terrible what I did. I didn't mean to. I was just trying to You don't think sometimes when you're in the middle of a podcast, you're just having a conversation. You don't think about the impact that it's going to have That's one of the reasons why, you know Podcasts are so weird 'cause like you're in the middle of trying to be entertaining, but you're also just having a conversation And u So becausecause I felt so badly about it, it was like, there's gott to be a way to address this where I just express myself. and so that's why We've never done this before. We've never done this kind of a thing after a podcast. but The is very important me She's an awesome person, a great friend and one of the most interesting and funny people I've ever met in my life. And I just felt terrible about it. and I told them loud never bring it up publicly again, but I think it is important to let people know that aspect of it. So call him and clear this with him to make sure he's cool with me saying this, but I'm pretty sure he's going to be. And that's it. So u I'm a human and I'm flawed like all of us and I fuck up and it's probably not the last time.'s definitely not I'm going fuck up again My intention is never to hurt anybody ever This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, likeike restoring a vintage motorcycle from a fifty page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online makes sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responssees setup required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus Esasily the coolest thing I've ever seen on the Joe Rogan experience because it was basically what theo talkks about. We're all human, we make mistakes. And he's right especially me, I really do say things like I am talking to my friends on a podcast. That's real. You can just kind of forget that you're live and you like it be weird. you're like Jeogan you're number one, you should know what you're saying at all ties. Well, he's doing hours hours of podcasting and it Sometimes you just forget yourself and you're deep into a conversation and you think you are alone with the person me, I guess, just talking to you guys. And then I'm like, ooh, did I say that?? And I'm thinking of like minor situations where I've said something and I'm like, gosh, I really didn't even recognize that. So I think it's a little like more of that, I think And it's just cool to see people resolve something in a very human way. and I thought that was a of just a rare something that happened in politics, and I thought it was a good thing for me to end on that since I basically going to breathe fire this entire episode. So I just need to calm myself down with a nice story. 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Top comments from yesterday's episode regarding Victor Mark's ballistic bud writes, I'm a veteran served three times more than him. We do not stand with that guy.. Yeah, remember his's like bizarre. It was three years. was two years. Talk about just coming across generally soft and unfit to serve in the armed forces. That was an example of exactly that yet alone to be in like trying to lead an entire state of Colorado. I don't think that that works if you're that soft and fragile. Ultraviolet writes, I surved Victor Marks is what most of us are feeling right now. Yeah, definitely thinking people that say that they were emotionally abused by him, That's tracking for me vibe person and I feel like the vibes are there that he could in fact be guilty of just that. All right, comments from today's episode openped the wrong document. Seven Sheets writes, any news on Erica Kirk rushing to trademark Charlie's name and his parents bless them are suing her over this. Is this what a widow would do or a power money grab and why without the consent of his parents' prayers and faith. I think if that was just an internet rumor. I never heard that. I had never received any information about that. And I don't know that I would imagine Charlieseam is already trademarked possibly. I don't know what trademarks were filed. I guess we can look and see that and you can check my dates. I have not done that trademark search. But yeah, I don't I would imagine That is not the circumstance. And I think a lot of rumors were flying around and that one kind of went more viral than some other ones. ZA Mitt writes Congressman Thomas Massey was Fance fed yesterday. Unfortunately, the battle is physical, the war is spiritual Devil's overplaying his hand. I will leave it at that. It is you The only it only works if people believe it's real what I'm saying, power works when people believe it's real because power is actually quite fragile So when people begin to recognize that they are being ruled over, like when the slaves look up and recognize that actually they're on a plantation, that's not good. It's one of the reasons why slaves are not allowed to learn how to read The slave codes. like it was actually such a insistent slave code that even if you were a slave owner and you were caught teaching a slave how to read, you would also face penalties and fines and punishment because yeah they need you to be ignorant. That's the point. They need you to be stupid And people are not stupid right now. They get what's going on. And so I personally like the phase where they get arrogant. I like this phase where they start saying the things that they're saying. And I just like I said, I've seen it happen a great many times and we are headed in that direction with the Epstein class To tone Tommy writes there are two sets of Kahjones between Brigitt and Victor. There is one set of Cahones between Candace and Victor and Victor ain't got it. I don't want Cjones. I don't want Cahones I but I get what you're saying at the point that you're making Victor just, you know, just registered to me has been unstable, emotionally unstable. am happy, He says he's working on it. I have no doubt that he probably did not have a peachy childhood. Frankly, I liked his family. They reminded me a lot of my family. It just southern people and like one side of my family at least Southern people seemed like people that cared and had dignity and respect and a sense of honor about their ways even if things were a bit crazy growing up. That's the vibe I got. Mandy writes the urgency by our government to build these data centers which drain our drinking water supply and strain our local grids needs to be talked about. We talked about it last week. I think everybody is talking about it and they should continue to talk about it and within your community When they are trying to do these sorts of things, you need to cause an uproar. There are more of us than them Somet Tr always said to me What is one thing that every single slave civilization since the beginning of time had in common with one another, and the answer is there were always more slaves than masters Castello show. Oh, I've watched of your episodes, Zack Costello. Hello Zack writes theeline of Charlie to car, drive to hospital, surgeon Andrew Colbt finding out, puts Viictor Marx's Instagram post at exactly within the timeframe that his closest inner circle was finding out. Someone informed him, in my opinion. I totally agree with you Zach That's the point we were making. It was when right around the timeline when Erica finds out, It's actually a little bit before when Andrew Colbt finds out. So that signals to me that someone in the hospital, perhaps the security team or Erica informed him that Charlie was gone putting together the blue clues. I definitely don't think he was just wagering a guest. that doesn't register right to me. Or maybe he was a part of the Israel chat because like I mentioned the other day, Pastor Jack Hibbs and that little orbit of TPUSA faith adjacent people Ish were also the among the first to say that Charlie had passed and that for some reason Israel New first I don't know why they knew first. Wh who knows why Israel knew first? Israel didn't do nothing. They never done anything other than assassinate a sitting president of the United States Abdalah Cab writes, Candace, what do you think about the shooting at the mosque in L.A? It is the first time that I have seen mass shooters take their own life. Is it another attempt to place a wedge between Christian America and Muslims? I actually did not follow that story, so I'm a bit uneducated, but I will just say more broadly speaking, the attempt to pull Christians and Muslims apart and keep them warm with each other has become very evident. And I always speak about nine eleven and the intentional brainwashing that took place across my generation, making us every day. never forget nine eleven. stand up at nine AM and eleven minutes every day. And for a moment of silence, that was what was going on at my high school to drive this fear of Muslims have us thinking that they are radical. And I think that now our generation is grown up And we have some different ideas and opinions about who could have been around nine eleven, who benefited from those Middle Eastern wars which subsequently took place It certainly wasn't America and it certainly wasn't Christians. I will leave it at that James, the least writes if I wanted to be governor of Colorado, I wouldn't go on one of the biggest podcasts in the country and say absolutely nothing about why I should be governor. On the other hand, if I had a lot of money to launder What easier way to do that than to run for office? I think we have the worst options people that are running, I don't know how Ed Garin is not just embarrassed to be alive honestly to not even run and to have everybody know what you are effectively a prostitute right You're a prostitute. You know that. you had no crowd. You had to have the cameras zoomed in real close to your face so people couldn't see the no crowd that showed up even to your victory party. Nobody was there I just We need to bring back culture of shaman as a man That should kill you. You should die from embarrassment automatically, right? Just like, I was, man, I'm just gonna pass away testosterone deficiency or something. That's if I was Ed Garin That's what would expect. But I guess we live a different generation. People are pansies and people are like, Hm, mummy. Mm. Yay. I'm just gonna do what I can to get rich and vote how they tell me to vote You're a slave too, Ed. So You just think you're one in the house That's all that is Sorry, guys, was a little harsh. I am not being very nice today U just I gotta chill. I have got to chill. AAP. New merch available on the website. if you would like to support us and support people who are' not bought and paid for. The easiest way to support our show is to head to cananisens. com bu some merch buuy yourself a mug. We don't know no, but we know And soon we're gonna know no Tons of stuff up there and some great caps you guys go. justust get up there, just buy something. No, just buy whatever it is that you want. And by the way, if you are watching right now, hit the like button or subscribe button on YouTube. 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