Final Predictions for Clash in Italy

It's Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg, featuring stat guy Greg and Dip. Oh yeah. Are you kidding me, folks? Welcome aboard, ladies and gentlemen, to Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 2014 7. I am your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg. Happy to be joined at the moment at least by uh 38 at 35 Dipperste in. Um, I am not seeing a physically large stack guy, Greg, step into the room yet is do we Oh wait, hold on. Oh, oh, oh . Wow. SGGY listen, I I'm uh I am like notoriously like a late person . Why do you cut the actual broadcast time this close? Like I I because you're either not working today and you're like doing lawyerly stuff, but I see that you're in your nerd cave. So what is going on that you have to cut it this close and make us this nervous? And you're not even in the stream yard yet. So on YouTube, people won't even see that you exist. I mean, what's going on with you, dude? What had happened was I had I had an emergency hearing yesterday. It's very contentious. And I've been dealing with the fallout all morning. So I'm not in court, but I am working. It's done and the marriage is over. Then it is not done. It is not done. This is actually this is far from over. Um it's not a marriage. It's a custody situation. Far from over. I'm talking about your own marriage. Oh no. This is going great. He's going great. He's doing right. You kidding me? Yeah, yeah. This is that this is going absolutely great. But yeah, the this case is gonna be a problem . Um this is an unf this is unfortunate. It was a long way of saying, just uh you you you scare us, all right? Eleven Eleven fifty six. Is it that hard? I mean this guy he's worse than me. How did I think that is telling somebody not to be late, not to cut a close, not to be tardy. I mean Jesus Christ. Talk about talking about a lack of rigorous honesty. Well I I I I I I I'm I'm the only thing I'm never late for is the second the show begins. I will always be in my seat. Kelly Murphy does not worry Kelly, tell the truth. Do you ever worry about me ? I honestly don't. You're you're the only one that I don't. I'm the only one that I'm gonna worry about us all. She no, she worries about you. She sometimes has to worry about Dip, who may even show up mid-segment and just send the entire show into chaos. She knows that somehow by hook or by crook. Today I tested the line I believe at a 1120. I I am a professional broadcaster. Uh either way, everyone is here. SUG has made it back from Prague. I am attempting to make it to Italy. You can see my uh my suitcase sitting behind me right there. A gigantic I'm I S U G I am traveling with my international big travel suitcase. AKA the suitcase I see dip use every time he travels anywhere. You're going to Chechnya. By the way, I did look up what Czechoslovakia is called now. And it's uh it's i there's uh many ways you could pronounce this. It's Chechia Chechnya Chechia Checha. We did tell you this last week. I you were right. I th I was thinking we were we were we were dealing with a republic still . I I don't know what it now it's just uh they've declared it something new. You you've been waiting all week to continu let me just get this straight. Have you been waiting all week to continue the Chechia joke from last week? We we did the Chechia bit, dude. Like we didn't frog. It was a hit. You mentioned frog . That's true. That's true. It was a hit. He was hearing from dip was getting DMs from people going, more we need more Chechia. Please bring the Chechia . How was Checia SGD? It was a good time? Oh, it was fantastic. I I had a great time. Um hung out with my buddies, ate some burgers, drank a lot of beer. You went there to eat hamburgers? You went all the way to Czechoslovakia to eat hamburgers. Check it to eat what they eat in Czech. Chechia is they're having a hamburgers are having burgers are having a big moment in chech here right now they're they're big in prog right now everybody's doing their burger the meat was so fresh pause that they bake their own buns the best the best brioche buns that i've ever ever had on a burger. Wait a minute. Hold on. So so is that like a well established thing that Czechoslovakians are are are eating hamburgers now at burgers are having a big moment over there. They I did try some of the local cuisine as well. There was a dessert that I had, I think it's called turtleneck. Turtleneck. I can't I can't pronounce it, but it's like a donut in the shape of like a cone that they fill with you know whatever you want to put in there. I had mine with chocolate and strawberries. Um absolutely delicious. But they could put pretty much pretty much anything in those things. I got news for you. What do do you you what think I mean, I I spent a good amount of time in in what was then a republic of Czech. I mean the cuisine it's not a weird place to get a hamburger. Let me just say that. It's not a weird place to get a hamburger. I would assume wherever you go there you can get a plate of crap. That's what I assume. By the way, you just basically described a dessert of crap. Oh it was mage though. But it was mage. Mage mage crap. to we have to this is a really important moment and it's a good time to talk about it because I'm uh flying to Milan today and then getting uh going straight to Torin. Let's just let's just be honest for a second. For as as metropolitan and slick and and and well to do as Dip is, he is basically for lack of a better word, SGG, when it comes to like travel, he's PWT. He he doesn't know what you eat anywhere. Like he 's gonna say he he in his brain he's going, You're going to Italy, what are you gonna have? You're gonna have some spaghetti and meatballs. That's metropolitan as far as it goes. As metropolitan and chic and well to do as he is now . You could take the PW you could take the boy out of the the PWT areas, but you can't take the PWT out of the boy. It's just if he ever left and took a vacation, but because he only travels back and forth between Florida and California, he doesn't know culture anywhere else. Let's be honest. I have big news. My cousin is getting married next May in Barcel ona. Okay. Oh, that's gonna be basic. And we're having a conversation about maybe going to Morocco and Portugal. Okay. Portugal's apparently there's a ship or there's a boat that takes you through the Strait of Gibraltar. You're not are you gonna go through Hormuz? No hormouth. I have no Hormoes, although lovely this time here, I'm told. I will not be going through whore moves. Well, I I'm happy for your cousin. That shows a a a strong level of love because I have I have known Dipprerstein before to know people that he loves who are getting married in a foreign country and go, Well, it's been great knowing you. Not calling . SGG is not one of those people. No, I mean the trip. Dip didn't the trip. But Mexico, different. Is that is that something is Lisbon? People love Lisbon. Oh Lisbon Lisboa. Dip, let me give you some culture let me get you going early. It's it's Lisboa. All right. Let me just get you let me get you Portuguese early. You will be. You'll be calling it Lisbon. And uh I I dip you should though. It is there is something exciting. Like being in another country is for whatever reason exciting. It's like it ha it has like a little bit of s there's a little bit No, no, I think for everybody. But I mean some people just get used to it, it's nothing. But I think for the average person who's even fairly well traveled, there There is something naturally exciting about when you touch down in a different place where people don't speak the language and you don't know where you are. I mean in some ways it's a nightmare. But in some ways it's fantastic. And I think with dip is gonna be a nightmare. I don't like filling out that little thing on the plane before. I don't like that I don't like that little that little thing that you have to fill out. Oh, you don't have to fill those out anymore. The international flight, where you're gonna stay, who you with ? You you don't have to fill it up? What if I what if what if what if I go to Lisbon and I find some cattle and I want to bring back some cattle? Well then you gotta you gotta write the fill it out. Or some strange fruit. If have strange fruit and I want to bring it back or some veggies that don't have any distinct color or No, if if I I'm gonna tell you now, if you if you run into strange animals or fruit that you want to travel with, you're gonna have to write it down on the form. I have to declare it. You're gonna have to I declare I have some cattle in my carry-on. In my luggage. Dip, let me ask you a question. I mean I'm sorry SG G let me ask you a quick question before we dive into Kalash here. Yes. Were there any major airport issues? Because I'm hearing there are major airport issues in Europe right now. I'm glad you asked. We almost did not get back from Prague um on Monday. Because of the wait at the airport? Yeah, which would have been a logistical nightmare for me because I had court on Tuesday in person and I needed to be back for. But um, so we get to the airport and just the ride to the airport was so crazy that it our flight was gonna start boarding. So we find a security lady and we and we're uh're like listen our flight is about to start boarding is there any way you can you can help us out and she just said well there's plenty of people waiting so you just have to wait in the line so they send us into the line with hundreds of people waiting to go through with their like non EU passports. That that's where there's the big problem in Europe right now is the non passport people are getting like bludgeoned. There's a new passport line is empty . So finally somebody yells out Philadelphia pulls me and Crystal out of the line. We go through the EU passport line. We get to call out Philadelphia. They knew they just they saw that there was someone who was who needed to make the flight. Well no we told them that like look our flights the flight. They said the flights later. So if anyone here. Okay. So they pull us through, we get and then we go to the gate. And um at this particular airport, the way they do it is the security line is at the gate for the flights. It's not like security, then passport control, then you go to the gate. So we get to the security line at the gate, and it's there's there must be two hundred people on this line. All for our flight. Well that's the thing though, but then aren't you good at that point? Because if the people are off the line for your flight, they're gonna leave the people online for the flight? No, we are we were not good because we were at the back of the line and they're doing everything checking everybody's toiletries, having in the plastic bag, all that to the point where someone from the airline had to come out to the security line and say, We are closing the doors, let these people through. And we had to run. She said, Please run. We have to close. the doors We had to run. I never heard never heard run. We had to run to the plane before they closed the doors. They closed the doors minutes after we got on the plane. The same guy that's taking the picture, the same guy that's taking the picture at customs like that that that they're the the the machine that's taking the picture at customs is the same guy that's taking all these ufo videos yeah you just look like a blob . Your face looks like the blob that these UFOs look like. I wish I wish it was that simple. I wish he was just looking at blobs and saying whatever go through. They took the job very simple. But but it's a different kind of situation. All right, all right. So get don't don't mess with listen. My my baby is uh my my cousin didn't tell us. We had we had the most typical family situation. The cousin didn't tell me that her very cute daughter was clearly like dealing with a thing. So she's hugging my daughter. Literally, by the time we go to bed last Saturday, Maya's already sneezing. She now, the amount of snot that I am wiping. You know how unsatisfying things? We have the suction and I feel so bad. She hates it. The suction it's all the snots on the face. You're w smearing, you're wiping it's disgusting. I w I would like one of the adult suctions. Uh not a snot suction. You should that should be your gimmick. You're like, I don't blow my nose. I force other adults to use a an aspirator on me . Well if I get if I get even slightly more successful I may have somebody do that for you. You'll hire an aspirator. So Clash in Italy is on Sunday. And guys, four out my brother just sent me this stat. Uh SGG, watch out. Uh four out of the five clas h in Italy matches are matches that have already happened in the last six weeks. There's only one new match. And that is Cody and Gunther. I like it though. It's like Backlash and Jays. Yeah. I like it . Of course you do. Uh no, I'm fine with it. I I I I actually think it's a really strong I mean like I I gotta say I know they've settled in on this five match thing. I I I wish we could have just settled at like six or seven. I really seven would have been seven is the sweet spot. Seven is so good. Like if you want it to feel like an event, like you want me to plan my night around it. Like I'm doing this thing. Like at home. If you're a if you're a viewer and you're like, I'm gonna have a night, seven to me gives you enough that there's a bunch of meaningful stuff and there's a couple where you're talking to people and you're having a snack and you're why give me seven. You need to talk about Don't you agree you need a talking to people grabbing a snack? I want fifteen matches. I'm looking at a I need a I need I'm loving the the the length of the AW pay per views. I'm all about it. People people say they're too long. Keep 'em go I I I would have no issue with the length of the AEW uh pay-per-views. And of course they're coming off a pay-per-view that most people absolutely loved and are and consider you know maybe card of the year. Uh my only issue is that when I don't get to see them live, it's very, very challenging to rewatch it . Like if I if I make the plan on Saturday night and and Zach Linder comes over and we sit and we watch the whole show, boom, no problem. But once I get to Monday and I'm trying to go back and watch four and a half hours of double or nothing, it is very hard to to make up the time. And I was interested in watching the buy-in this week because I wanted to see the debut of Mick Foley and a true Long Island moment for the ages. MJF going back and forth with McFoley. So I had to watch the the buy-in as well. So you're in it for like five hours at that point. But we're gonna we're gonna get to double or nothing in this in a second. Greg had grown a beard by the time the AEW was over . That's how long it was. That's a bit we need to go back to. No. No exactly. And it's getting there. Greg, the beard isn't a line between the two . It's coming , but I I've I'm still so jealous of Dip's uh beard ability. It's insane. Yeah, it's it's cause he's barely a man. You know what I mean? Like dip is managed confront. I don't think he even he didn't even argue that he's he knows he's mana jace. Yeah man and yet he has this beard situation that's just out of control. It's it's very impressive. But here's the thing I want to talk about on the other side and, I want to take your phone calls uh about it as well, eight seven seven three four four eight nine three. Um call us right now. We have not talking to you the people in a long time, so I'd love to talk to you a lot throughout today's show. But is Roman Reigns? Here's what I want you to answer it on the other side, SGG. Okay . Was it awesome that Roman Reigns said when I beat you, you're gonna work for me, and you're gonna learn to love the tribal chief, your tribal chief ? Was that awesome? Or did it completely telegraph where we are going? Or maybe both. Let's think about that. We'll talk about it on the other side, 877-344-4893. It's Cheap Heat Live, Clash in Italy, Friday. I'm heading out in a few hours, but we're talking to you right now on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following. I'm Mario Perillo, Mr. Italy for Perillo Tours in Alital ia. This is our 50th year. Time sure flies. Isn't it time you said, okay, Mario, andiamo in Italia, let's go to Italy. Timeless, romantic, exhilarating. Let Mario escort you from the Alps to Sicily, first class or deluxe, one week or two, Perillo takes care of everything. For Perillo 's fiftieth anniversary brochure, see your travel agent or call 1-800-255-5000 now. So SGG, I pose the question before the break, and I pose it to you the people, 877-344-4893. Were you excited when Roman raids told Jacob on Monday, When I beat you, you're gonna work for me, and you're gonna learn to love your tribal chief? Did that excite you as a possibility of the story where the story could go, or did it tell you, all right, we know Roman's winning and we know where this is going ? Listen , I always believe that Roman is gonna win, but belief and knowledge are not the same thing. I have no idea what they actually are gonna do. But as I continue to say, they don't have any bad options on with this story. Either Jacob wins, and we have to figure out how Roman reacts to because we know how he reacted to not having the championship, right? He's still the tribal chief. It didn't really knock him off his square too much. But having somebody else in that top spot for the family is different. And I'm interested to see how Roman reacts to that if we get to that place where it is somebody else with the Ulafala and it is somebody else with the championship and it is somebody else with the legitimate claim to being the head of the t able. Even better if it's somebody else as maniacal as as Jacob Fattu has been. So I don't know what they actually are gonna do . Um dip, does does is that to you a tell that that's where they're going ? I think it's the only logical way, like I said last week, if Jacob loses the match clean, pin one, two, three, it just I think it just not it doesn't accomplish what we wanted this feud to accomplish and that he's all of a sudden a top of the card guy. But if you have him lose but then all of a sudden become a disciple of Roman, yes, then all then then you know I think it just it keeps it continues to make that character interesting. Alright, we're not ready to have you beat Roman Reigns yet. That would be a really crazy thing we're not doing. But we like what we're seeing, and we're gonna build this story out further. And after this, we're now gonna have a long term story with Roman and Jacob. That's how I took it . So are you talking to me? You muted yourself. No, he's talking to his parents, folks. He is talking to his parents. They are walking in the back. Oh, he's getting upset. I was gonna say something somebody's enjoying some coffee creamer. I didn't want to call it out, but since that's where we are right now. Well remember he's in he's on their home turf, so they're enjoying their own coffee, and he's still barking at them in their own house saying, Get out of my podcast. I did notice the flowers. I was gonna compliment dip on the floral arrangement, but it's not his, so I gotta by the way. I was getting egg salad, but the egg salad is not something that's not a quiet sandwich. That's a very loud sandwich, egg salad. Why is egg why is egg salad a loud sandwich? Are they chopping chopping it? Yeah. Oh no you can't make eggs. What? They're making egg salads. Yes, you what you only buy egg salad? You've never made egg salad? No, no, no. What's crazy? Dip is making a strong case though for for uh somebody else being the head of the table because he's he's barking his parents over some egg salad galore. Meanwhile, meanwhile without they were out just now. I call they they call me and they forgot of course forgot I was doing the show. I told them five hundred times. Then they know I we have to be quiet for the show. They come in and start making egg salad. I did just start and they roll right into the egg salad. That is oh boy, we're gonna be quiet when we come in. We know you're doing a radio show. You're live on the radio. Instead we're gonna make egg salad. That is I I gotta when you said egg salad's a loud sandwich to make, I'm like, what are you talking about? You spread the egg salad run on the bread, you take a bite. I didn't know they're chopping. We're bo chopping, boiling, cracking. Um so I I do by the way, the um the Julia fala is very funny. That is I why would you not say that? That is I didn't I didn't want you guys were you y'all were rocking, I didn't want to say it, but somebody does need to challenge you for the for the Jul . The Julafala . I've never never thought of that. SGG. You had to do that. There's more cracking and going on. There's more stumbling and cracking and putting away. It's crazy. Yeah. Couldn't resist this to to to ruffle a bag on the air. Uh so I I do think where we end up going here is I don't think it's a clean one, two, three. I think something does happen that makes this more complicated, but I do think that Jacob Fatsu loses here. And I think the long term story we get is now sort of right hand man a Jace with Jacob Fatu being the reluctant sort of muscle for Roman. But the interesting piece, guys, maybe I'm overthinking this. If Jacob Fatu becomes like Roman Reigns underling , then the if this story were to play out, it you realize it it it plays out with baby face Jacob Fatou beating heel Roman Reigns. He's not winning eventually. Oh, you mean eventually? If he becomes his underling, unless this goes against everything we've ever seen in the history of wrestling, the underling becomes the babyface. That is just the way this goes, right? Yeah. Like he has to become that, and then one day he over comes Roman Reigns. That's what I'm saying. It's a great way to keep him interesting. Will he or won't he turn the will he or won't he is a great we love we we love will he I like the I like the idea of having Jacob be like a heel for a for a second. I mean I don't even know what Roman Reigns is anymore, dude. I gotta be honest. No, he's just he's just the guy at the top of the card. I mean, he he's rejected those alignments. Have we seen a guy be this good of a tweener ever ? Um I would say the best tweener activity uh uh of all time. Savage the tweener 's Savage Savage has been a great tweener . Yeah, I'm trying to think if Luga was a tweener in WCW . Dip, you can't you can't figure out how to turn this the sound off your computer? Nah . What like what kind of I wouldn't even know what to start pressing. Is there something to press? You do you realize you're a millennial? Like what kind of millennial are you? Like you don't know how to turn the phone Like are you eighty? You you don't know how to turn the sound off. Where is it coming from? Your computer? Yeah. The text comes on the computer. Bing. Go you you tap the little uh you tap the little two bars at the top of your screen next to the magnifying glass. Do you see that? Yeah. Yeah. Under it, do you see where it says focus ? When you tap, you see where it says you don't see focus. Click focus and turn on do not disturb. Okay. Wow . You do it? Shout out to Tech Support. I did it. Wow. I'm really happy. Let's have to wait on hold for hours. Let's talk to some of our most loyal uh calling. You know what? I'd love to hear from some pecker and today we've never heard from. I'd love to hear from some people in the cheap heat universe who have never called before. 877-344-4893. But let's get started with someone we know very well, our good friend Bill in the four one six. Bill, what's going on, man? Hey, um I just with this uh match I I wanna I wanna see Jacob win and have Roman be now this the roles reversed and it becomes a teachable moment 'cause I don't w I don't want to repeat and it' its feels like gonna become a repeat. Yeah. That's not I mean that's a good point. They're they're there they love repeating. That's not something, you know, that that that's it's sort of an unavoidable thing. But I I agree. I agree the best coolest case scenario, even though it's not going to happen, is that Jacob is Jacob wins. But that's not going to happen. So we have they have to figure out what to do with Jacob to keep him cool as a result of a loss to r the second loss to Roman Reigns . I mean I think you I think that's fair. You don't want to you don't want to become like Powdy Jacob and it's like, you know, d all the twinists will be snuck out of 'em. No one wants no one wants pouty jacob. There's this I've I've never even considered such a thing as a pouty jacob. It it's not even a he's not a pouty individual. I've never seen the men . He's never pouted. Let's go to uh James in North Carolina who also wants to talk some Roman Reigns and Jacob Fatzu. What's up ? What's going on guys? How y'all doing? Good. How are you, bro? Good job. I'm doing I'm doing pretty good. I think, you know, it's outside of Italy, I think we get Roman winning. Um I w I really would like to see the dynamic of Jacob Fattu trying to be domesticated in Roman's words, um and trying to fit in that role. But also you gotta think about the big money match of possibly Roman Reigns versus Oba Femi . And Roman would be so dangerous if he has Jacob Fat II in his back pocket. And that's even bigger of a mountain for Oba to eventually to you know, to conquer if that's where they're going long term. I s I think that would be the strongest Roman Reigns we've ever seen with you know, this version of the bloodline with somebody as crazy as Jacob Fatua is in the sides That that is a that is a very fun point. Thank you for the call, man. That's a that's a really good point, bro. Like if if if really where we're eventually getting here, and obviously people a lot of people think that, is Jeroman and Oba , and you build Oba as this sort of unstoppable force . If Roman were to ever get by Roba, uh Oba, let's say , getting that help from Jacob Fatu , that being the thing that allows him to sort of get over that mountain would be an interesting thing to do. Controversial opinion though. Is Roman versus Oba a money match this year? How could it not be? It's a money. You think you're asking, will it occur this year? No, I'm saying not will it occur this year, but does Oba can Oba be bigger? Is what I'm saying before he gets to Roman Reigns? Roman Reigns is a guy that John Cena , you know, the GOAT , that some people say he is, calls Roman Reigns the GOAT. He's the guy that WWE built their company around for the last 10 years, maybe more . Does he need to get to Oba right away? Is that the money match this year? Like, is this version of Oba ? Because if he runs through everybody that they say is money, he's already had Cody . He retired Brock, quote unquote. Brock came back. He's gonna retire him again . Roman too? Does he need does Oba need all of that this year? Is there a stepping stone? Here's the thing. Brock Lesnar is never losing twice in a row to the same person. I don't see that ever happening. It has though. I see . It has? Yeah. Roman beat him at WrestleMania and then beat him at uh SummerSlam later on. I think Cody beat him twice in a row. I don't think Brock Lesnar is gonna go out retiring in his life in his his in in career with a string of losses. He's got to win somewhere, and I think it's going to be in Italy. I think he beats Obafemi in Italy. And then they get they they do they run it back at Night of Champions or at SummerSlam . And you have finally Oba beat him, and that's when he gets, you know, maybe he's ready for the you know, his his his his real main event spot, not his main event at Jace spot. So you're asking, is there a stepping stone between Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns? I don't think there needs to be. If there is, fine. Maybe it's Jacob Fatto . Maybe Jacob Fatu is the stepping stone to Roman. But then but then Jacob goes from losing to Roman to being the stepping stone for Oba as well. Maybe . It's hard. It's hard when you have these guys who have have such potential to be so big, but not everybody can go there at the same time. That's exactly right. Not everyone can be mage. Is there room for Oba and Jacob as like the unlike the like the big you know monster. Yeah, that's the thing though. Jacob Fat you know, you're right, not everybody can be mage, but Jacob Fatou is mage, and I I don't see a world where Jacob Fatu becomes a stepping stone on Roman's watch. Like you go from feud, you go from feuding with me to becoming a stepping stone for the next guy to feud with me. I don't think it's going to happen. I get I'm going to say something. I'm sensing stepping st one. Oh . I'm sensing stepping stuff you're telling me is you're sensing stepping stone. Oh yeah. Here's the stone. Stepping right over the stone. No, no, you step on the stone . Oh, you step on the stone. Right? The stone is there for the stone. You step on the stone. I I think you step on the stone. And the stone stepping the act of stepping on the stone gets you where you need to be. So Jacob is essentially the stone . That is that's that's where I'm that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that as well. Yeah. I I don't want that to be the case, but I when in the version that you're saying, that is the case. That's what you're saying. Oh, so you're translating for dip. You're not saying that you agree. No, I I don't want that. I I don't want that. No, I don't want it either. But it makes sense for the stuff. I I have to tell you though, I am very excited about Oban Brock. I I just yeah I'm I'm legitimately curious 'cause I hear what Dip's saying. Would they really bring Brock back and have him go to Italy to lose again? No. He's winning. He's gonna win. And then he's gonna lose in Minnesota, right? That that that has to be. Either Minnesota or Night of Champions . Although neither of them have a championship, so why would they wrestle there? They'll probably save the third match where he does lose to Oba. And then Oba at Summer Oba at Somerset and be becomes main event Oba F Minnesota. I feel like everybody had the eye on Minnesota. It had to . It's his hometown, like you were saying, Pete. 877-344-4893. Your thoughts on the Oba Brock of it all on Sunday. To me, that's the match of the night. We've already made our picks on this matchup, it seems, right? Uh as tip, you believe that is a Brock win, SGG? Agreed. Yes. We all we all agree this is a Brock Lesnar victory. A quick one, I think, too. I don't think they're gonna go that long again. I don't think it'll be like he might like Oba might be distracted. I don't think it's gonna be a long, I mean it's they're I don't think Brock Lesnar has that long a matches anymore. By the way, I'd love to see it go twenty minutes, but I I think it'll be a quick one . Um what do you guys think about Cody Gunther? I I think getting there story wise has been a a little on the clunky side. Um I don't know. It feels like Gunther these days people are not exactly sh it doesn't seem like every they're sure on how we're telling the story of Gunther. Like who this guy is. He just sort of like pops up and does different things and uh has associations with people but not really. I just I I feel a little bit half pregnant on on what Gunther is. That's right, Dip. Half pregnant. Um, it's a Michael K. phrase, not even quite sure what it means. But I will say this: the reason I find this match on Sunday kind of compelling is I it's hard for me to picture either Cody or Gunther losing this match . Like are you telling me Gunther's gonna win? No. He's gonna lose. Yeah . You're saying are you telling me Gunther at this point, after retiring Cena, AJ, Goldberg, he beat Seth at WrestleMania . Crossroads one, two, three, middle of the ring, Cody Rhodes beats him. It's either going to be crossroads one, two th,ree , or somebody is gonna come in and schmozzle the whole thing up. Nah, I think it's gonna be crossroads one, two, three. Me too. Me too. No disrespect to the guys you named, but I mean Goldberg was already retired. He just threw the last shovel of dirt on him . Cena Cena was practically retired. I thought I would by the way, another murder. I thought I was tough on on Goldberg. Here comes SGG. No, no, let's be real. That was he just did the little last handful and that was it. Goldberg was already out of here. Cena announced that he was gonna be on his way out of here. The AJ, the AJ thing was shocking, but this is prime Cody Rhodes. Cody's not losing this title to Gunther. And Gunther, I hate to say it, but he feels kind of lost. He's not lost in the shuffle. He's on TV. He's doing important things on TV , but it doesn't he doesn't have that Gunther feel that he had when he was champion. He lost his Gunther feel, is what you're saying. He did. He don't have it. He don't have it anymore. And what when he was intercontinental champion, he had it. When he was world champion, he had it. Um, he didn't really have it as much when he was trying to collect people's career. And now he does not have it. I'm gonna tell you, I think he needs a stable again. Yeah. Get the mask off of Ludwig. No, I mean I think he is gonna lose the mask the Americano thing. Okay. Oh my well, guess what? I got news for you. They are on Saturday. At Triple Mini . Yeah. Good. Mass. It's Mass versus Mass. You're not aware of this? It's happening. No, I know it is. I just forgot for the moment. It's but yeah, so I think I think that they're gonna move on in some way from that, I think. Do we can we get Ludwig out of the mask and back on team Gunther. I I you know what? I the way this started, SGG, it did not feel clean. But I like where Dip landed the plane. I I I will say good we all agreed, we all said it in different ways. Gunther, there's something about him that's not feeling completely Gunther-esque. No. And also I gotta say this. So let me finish that point. So Dip, I think he's right. I think if you were to bring El Grande Americano to now going back to being with there i it would be something. I I agree that would be something. Uh the one thing I do want to say though , the the the pronunciation of Gunther is one of the greatest mysteries in the history of professional wrestling. I was Oh, it's big. No, it's bigger than Vicare. You think it's bigger than Vicare? I know it is. It has more, it has more care. It has more. No, no one's ever said Vakware. That is not not on WWE television on the there is there is there is legitimately gunther gunther guntha That's three Gunther. I don't like Gunther. I don't like Gunther either. It's Gunther. It's got this is the way we say it. It's Gunther. Okay. No. I say Gunther. Gunther. Why do you say Gunther? His mama, his his mama named him Gunther, we gonna call him Gunther. No, seriously . I'm being serious. I sat on a phone call with WWE Brass and I said, can we please finalize a pronunciation on the name Gunther? Okay. No one would commit the I I I said I said uh I I brought this up on like a two on a on a Thursday. The following Monday I'm watching Raw and in back to back seconds, someone goes, something, something, something, Gunther. And then it cuts to Michael Cole and he goes, Well, Gunther. And I'm like, we are literally back to back saying it different. There is crazy. It's like a There is no uniformity to his name at all. It's like a wrestling SNL sketch. I I'm at ESPN yesterday and Greeny, Mike Greenberg goes, I'm putting on my headset in the other room, and I hear Mike Greenberg and on the set of get up going Okay, he's look he's looking at his notes and he goes, All right, Cody Rhodes versus Gunther. Gunther Gunther how do I pronounce this? Where's Rosenberg? Where's Rosenberg? I need to know how to pronounce this. Where where's Rosenberg? I go running in, I go I go green.y Nobody knows. And also that's why your point is valid . Which part? That they need to they need to come up with one way that they're gonna say this and that is gonna be part of the presentation. I would I would be focusing on Vicare more m more than other. I can't believe you think Vicare is the the it's bother Vecur? I I mean it it's not Vikur. I mean who made that Vakur? Who but who says that? Who says Vakur? I've heard plenty of Vakur. You're hearing Vukur? Like the coach of the Golden State he like like she's the coach of the Golden State Warriors, Steve Buker. Yeah. I've heard I've heard the Usos say Vukur . The Usos don't count for our pronunciation. I love the Usos, okay? They're my boys. I'm not turning to them for pronunciation on on other people's names. They call half the locker room oos . Don't pronounce Peter Rosenberg Oos. Yeah, exactly. You do not pronounce the name Rosenberg Oose, but that's all I get. Um love those dudes. But um I I think the Gunther Gunther Gunther Gunther is something that needs to be addressed. We should have Stephanie Vak v uh It's been very funny listening to him. He was breaking down that he really like enjo ys the Americano thing. Yeah. He's like he but like he didn't he he missed the whole beginning of it. Like he wasn't watching when they did the original vignette . Dip, you said, Uhg, you're not into the Americanos. I was, and now I'm like, it's dra it's not a story anymore. It's dragged on to what? I don't know. I've lost track of it. It's the biggest thing happening in AAA right now. I don't watch Triple A. Okay. I'd like to start watching Triple A, to be honest. I said that's okay, but I gotta tell you this. Yeah, well Saturday's a good idea I'd like to start watching Triple A. But let me let me say what are you what are you crazy dip? It's the biggest story in triple A. What hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Dip you're so wrestling by a watch. No, you can't. Okay, so there's two separate conversations happening happening here. You are saying we're about to get rigorous honesty here. This is about to make you very rigorous. I'm gonna be rigorously honest about you, Dip. You sound like a fool. Because you can't say, Oh, I'm not really into the Americano thing and then you go, Well, y it's the biggest thing in triple A and you go, Well, I don't watch Triple A. That's where the storyy is. The're all right. That's why we're not in the story, the real story that wrestling fans have been talking about is their use of it on RAW is bizarre and sometimes doesn't even fit what's happening in AAA . But the story in A Triple , this whole mass versus mask with the girlfriend, the whole thing. Uh I it and it's gonna be settled on Saturday night, I think ten PM Eastern at Triple Mania. I mean what this is Can I say something too before we get out of here for the for the It's incredible to me that with this story cause El Grande was a fake character and when they introduced this character and talked about the reactions that he gets in Mexico . Those are the reactions that Ludwig is getting right now. It's insane . It's insane. They the whole thing was made up with I was sitting, I was with Triple H um about to do the interview before WrestleMania last year. I was in Stanford when a writer came up to him and was like, Hey, I want to show you this vignette we have. And he watched the original vignette for El Grande Americano. And remember the internet got all mad and they had no idea that this fun, funny thing would turn out to be now a truly epic storyline to everyone in the world except Brian Dipperstein. 877-344-4 893 We're going to be rigorously honest the rest of this program. Can't wait to talk to you about the rest of the show. Plus, we do have to get into double or nothing. It is Cheapete Live on Pro Rustin Nation 24-7. Promotional consideration paid for by the following World Wrestling Federation activewear by Weiner, exciting tops and bottoms for the Warriors and Hulker maniacs in your family. Youth and adult sizes now available nationwide . It's Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg, featuring stat guy Greg and Dip. Oh well we are living in an incredible time. It's the the it's it's May twenty ninth, twenty twenty sixth, year of our Lord. And my brother just texted me to say to correct me that I just said that it's triple mania this weekend, which is not until September. It's Noche de los Grandes this weekend of course. I was misspeaking about uh the pay per view. That's how big it is, Dip. They have their own pay-per-view for it. But the fact that my brother is correcting me on triple A pay-per-views. Have you ever seen Dip a psychotic evolution into wrestling fan like this before? It's a typical Rosenberg move. You think this is a typical? Yeah. Going this like jumping if you're gonna know like just jumping fully into something . You know? Like rigorous honesty. Rigorous honesty, yeah. I will say wrestling is a thing that when people rediscover it, it does go pretty fast. It's like there's a built-in thing, there's like this nostalgic trigger point, and it allows people to go from like I haven't watched it in thirty years to there's something so familiar and feel good about it that you do you I have seen people go crazy before. I mean I did the first time in O five when I came back. And it's easy to do, especially these days when there's so much different wrestling, like somebody has something for you, and then the presentation of some of these shows just it's just off the shots. And I'm not even talking about like a WrestleMania that feels like no like a Super Bowl. I'm talking about like other people. And if you're and if if you're someone who you know, if you're in a place in your life where you're just looking for something to sort of enjoy and get to turn off sort of the the craziness of our world, there is something to really watch ev literally every night. I mean you're talking about you know this week you had double or nothing Sunday, Raw on Monday, NXT Tuesday, of course you have Evolve on Wednesday, and a little show called Dynamite. Um Saturday night's main event. TNA on the eye night event on Saturday. TNA's on Thursday. And then Triple A's on Saturday like so it is nice. Like if you want something to do , it is they will it is all there for you. And then in between, if you want to watch the greatest battle royals , um that is something that I've been enjoying on the vault. What do you mean? Is that a is that a four hours of the best battle royals ever on the vault, right now. The vault on YouTube. It's been mu it was there months and months ago, but I just discovered it. It's mage . Every era of battle royals from you know, but we're talking like there's AW there's an AWA battle royal from like 83 with Andre and all these people in it. Like you have to watch that. You know, you just reminded me of something interesting. Like we think of battle royals now as just like a nothing match almost. I was watching WrestleMania 4, I think it was, and during the battle royal, Gorilla Monsoon was talking about Battle Royals like it was the elimination chamber. He was like , I hate these matches. It's so chaotic. It's so dangerous. No, the way they used to sell them. What the two things here are the two things they did that were just hilarious. And some of them remain to this day. Number one, they sold the battle royal is so dangerous. It was like, oh my God, this is so big. And then number two, every single person uh over like six eight How are they gonna eliminate They you're not gonna be able to eliminate there they are going to win, it's over, and they never win . It's like it's absolutely why No one was better at that than Jesse . He sold the big man better than any commentator ever . Oh, he loved he that was his favorite place to be. Shouts to Jesse the Body. I'm told that we have a guest on the Pro Wrestling Nation b Crityele Hotline. Hello . What's going on, guys? What's going on? WWE Now. Here we are. Not just from WWE now, but from such hits as Not Sam Wrestling and Not Sam Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 247, just general great broadcaster, famed marathon runner, and all around great guy, Megan Morant. How are you? Well, thank you so much for putting me over. That was sick. I'm doing great, you guys. I was just sitting here listening to you on a Friday and I was hearing you talk about the pronunciation of Gunther G,unther, Guntha , and um then and then Dip, you brought up Stephanie Vacaire. And I wanted to bring forward how last year Naomi started calling Stephanie Vacaire Stephanie Velcro. And that was my favorite iteration. I like that. I know. By the way, Naomi's another one with Vikur. She says Vikur. Yeah. I I I've heard Naomi say from the yeah, yeah. She's guilty. She heard it from her husband. Yeah, it's a very, very good point. Um now Megan, remind me, because I know you were in the conversation where I brought up can we please come up with the pronunciation? You fall and where are you a gunter? Are you a I think you're gunter ? I'm a gunter and Sam's a gunter . No, no, Sam is Gunther. Sam is Sam is dead wrong. No, Sam is it Sam is like Dipperstein. He's a proper American . Just you read it the way you see it. It's Gunther . Yes, that's how he says it. I say Gunther. Because Michael Cole says Gunther. And he is the broadcaster that I think uh he's the he's the big boss, you know? You know, it's a fair point to follow Cole's lead and I think and Cole goes Cole is Gunther , but you definitely like I remember that certainly in like the ring announcements . I I know I'm pretty sure Samantha Irvine went straight up Goom T . Like I'm pretty sure that's where we were was goom. Yeah, but that's kind of intimidating as a broadcaster to be like, oh, I need to say it like Samantha No, and can you sing and play the flute at the same time? I sure can't. I sure can't. Uh what what running time? Guys, I'm very excited about mask versus mask. So I hope you uh you dive into that. Very excited. I know . I know Dip you said you want to watch AAA ? Dip dip uh Megan Dip was just burying mask versus mask and says he's had enough. He says he's had enough of the he quote has had enough of the Andrea Bazarte . I mean she is the star . I love the drama. I love the build to this. I love the energy of AAA . I will be locked in on mask versus mask. I am ready for it to like stop leaning over a little too raw, but like I know the build to this has been really fun. I know. I missed the boat. I have missed the boat on this, admittedly, one thousand percent. Dip. It is it I don't know how to do it. SGG was not being he was not being that guy when he said it's the biggest thing like in triple A. It quite literally has been for a lot of wrestling fans the their overall favorite story of the last six months. Like that's not an exaggeration. That is like a fairly common thing. There have been viral clips. The storyline has bled over into Raw . The like Ludwig posts himself walking down the street. He's got murals in Mexico. One of them I think even says a Mexican is born wherever the hell he damn well pleases. I don't know if that's necessarily true, but it shows how much they love Kaizo. Is Omas wrestling weekly on the show? Omas is killing it. Yeah, he's a ra he's a he's a regular heel on triple A. It's getting better by the minute. Dip. You're gonna I will can you can you commit to locking in this week and and watching. I think it's I think it's it's at seven PM PST. Oh are you gonna be back out will you be back out west on Saturday? No, unfortunately it's at I believe ten Eastern Peter. No, ten Eastern but dip with dips in LA. It could be seven PM. There you go. It's perfect for you. I'm gonna I will I'm gonna miss it. But is it is it paper box? No, it's on YouTube. Uh I have YouTube . It we don't know if he could actually get to it. He's he has some struggles with the technology but he he he has it. Megan Megan we love you. You're fantastic. Run safely this weekend and uh we'll see you. for I mean to me Miss Elizabeth and uh and Randy Savage is um Andrea and um and uh Grande Maricano. That's that's my version of it. By the way before you go, can I ask who you think is gonna walk away with the mask this week Oh come on, we need not the original. I want the the new grande . Yeah. I can't wait for the sight as he's walking out up the ramp with Andrea on his shoulder, recreated I love it. That's to me, like put it on a t shirt, I'm buying it. I can't wait. Wow. Yeah, put her on a t shirt. She's bringing that T shirt to uh now oh my God, come on.'s a She put she's putting on a t shirt. She's bringing that t shirt to a marathon and she's losing the t shirt. Uh Megan, thank you. Thank you guys. Have a good one. Bye. Um I will tell you, the Andrea thing is that is a she is a she really could be on like American TV. Like yes, she's a reporter I know on on WW in Mexico, but she is she could really be a Miss Elizabeth. This is Kaiser's girl. Yes. Yes. I love her. She's she's I dude, she's by the way, not only is she bed, bath, and beyond gorgeous she is she is so sweet and charming. Yeah, well you've introduced her. Put her on TV, dude. I introduce you to her? You'll faint. Oh, I did introduce you. Yeah. Did you faint? It was a lot . She's a stunning. She's a stunning one. Some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. She gives she gives you the vibe that uh I had when I met Beyonce in an elevator in nineteen ninety eight when they were Destiny's Child and I we got into the elevator and I was like, Oh, oh it's Destiny's Child. And I I looked at the the the sort of blondish curly haired girl who whose name I didn't know because you know, she was a member of Destiny's Child. I and I'm like, that is the most incredible human being I've ever seen in my life. And uh she went on to be Beyonce, folks. She went on to be Beyonce. At the time she was already Beyonce at the Fair. Fair what you're saying. Thank you, Tip. Okay. If I'm being rigorously honest about it, she was Beyonce at Jace until that moment in the elevator. I'm like, who the hell is this girl? And then I like I got drops from them. And uh that was all I wanted. Them going Yo, what's up? We're Destiny's Child and we're paying the bills with our boy PMD. That's right. Promoting the Billss Bill Bills single SGG . That's my drop. Well, I obviously I had problems with the word automobiles, like most people did. I didn't mind automobiles. I didn't mind autom obiles? I didn't mind automobiles. No, I I I I by the way, I love Bills Bill's Bills. Of course you did. It's right up your alley. It was probably playing at your Bar Mitzvah. I I bet you bet Bill's Bills Bills did play it by Bar Mitzvah. By the way, Bills Bill's Bills was two thousand and my bar mitzvah was in two thousand. Wow. So I take it back. I was twenty-one. I wasn't uh was Bills Bills Bills two thousand or two thousand one? Ninety nine. No, ninety-nine, two thousand . 'Cause I think no no no by Destiny's Child is like ninety-seven ninety eight. And when when's the scrub situation? When when are we getting the scrubs? Scrubs? Yeah. Scrubs I think was like ninety-nine two thousand also. That's all that's That was another bar mitzvah song. Big bar mitzvah song. Big SGG, my boy um ha has this record. Um Um called what the hell is the name of the record? I forget, but it's about his baby. And it's a really sweet record about his daughter being his name's Fresh Daily, and the records about his daughter being born. Oh, it's my daughter comes out. And and he says a bar in it SGG that resonates so hard with me. He goes She changed she remix she's talking about him and his wife and his daughter and he says she remixed our TLC like sporty th ieves. And I said that is a moment in time that should not be forgotten. Were you a no pigeons guy? Course One of the biggest no pigeons guys in the biz today. Big Sporty Thieves guy. In general, you were you were you were do you were you do you know were you into the song Cheapskate? Cheapskate by Sporty Thieves? I'm sure I've heard it. Yeah, I'm sure. I was seeking out Sporty Thie You ain't getting na from us . Not even a dollar . Yeah, I don't know. We need to come back with cheapskate by sporty thieves, folks. That's what we need to do here. Anyways, thank you to Megan Morant. Um uh Ben Queen is on it. He's gonna get us Sporty Thieves. Let's take a at least one call because the phone line's been jammed. Let's talk to at least one person before we go to break here. Uh let's go to um let's keep the Canada vibes going. And actually no, we were talking Gunther last. Let's take Gunther. Let's go to my hometown, Burt in DC to talk some Gunther Gunther. What do you got, buddy? Hey guys. Good afternoon. Hey, yeah, I think we might be missing a a a perfect opportunity for Gunther is he needs a manager. And I think for the longest he's been in the shadow of Brock Lesnar. And if you remember in the storylines, he told Paul Heyman he owes him. So I'm thinking he's going to take on uh he's gonna beat Cody. He's gonna be the champ, but he's gonna think, oh, the championship is not enough. I'm a career killer. I'm gonna I'm gonna put Brock Lesnar to bed. I'm gonna put his career to bed. And so I think he's gonna take on Brock Les nar. Uh that's gonna be the the uh Gruda Gruda Co Gutha I mean the f finale of of Brock Lesnar with Gunther taking him on and just wiping him out. Thanks a lot . Oh hold on. Thank you so much. First of all, good luck with your directions. Uh we want to get you out of DC, wherever you need to go. Thank you for the call. Um SGG has lost his mind because was he trying to say coup de gras ? I believe so. He might have been going for coup d'etat. But I think he's good. But we got this point. G went away. SGG has completely lost it. So do you think that we could get to Gunther Gunther Gunther against Brock or Broke Les nar at SummerSlam. Was he suggesting that Heyman now turns on Brock and is now with Gunther? He was suggesting something about the Heyman owing him something. Where I where he landed though. Let's ignore that part for a second. Uh is there a world in which uh Gunther Gunther Guntha retires Brock at SummerSlam? Yes, I think so, yeah. But you you they're they're not gonna Oba has to factor in to to the That's what I'm saying. So how can you get there? How how can you get he splits with Oba ? 'Cause you can't have him lose back to him losing to Oba twice and then to Gunther or Gunther or Gunther at SummerSlam. You can't have that hat three in a row. No, that's that's not how we're going out. No. But Gunther could jump the line, right? Brock could beat Oba . Oba could be like, listen, I I want the third match, and then Gunther's like, nah, you owe me a favor, I'm jumping the line, I am getting Brock and Minnesota, and then when Brock is gone Gunther Oba. Gunther Oba carries a store. I think we did some work. I think we f I think we found something that could work. Just like Dip's dad is doing some work in the background right now. Maybe making some eggs out. Taking a little stroll. Um I think if uh I think if we get uh more if if if if if Gunther all of a sudden becomes the foe for for lesnar. Um and and and he he moves from he moves from Cody to maybe oba to lesnar. That's a lot of jumping, jumpin'. Well, I see what you did. I see what you did . You know there's a wrestler, there's another there's a wrestler sitting right there for you to tie into another Destiny Child song . Um Joe Hendry . How? Say his name. Of course. Okay. Can we I this is a perfect this is a Joe Hendry is a perfect switch in the conversation. Okay. Go ahead. Now that Logan Paul is injured. With a with a gnarly that tri cep surgery picture he posted was disgusting. Absolutely. We believe you. We believe you. Yeah, we know what happened . work, so great work. He went he went for it. He went for it. If it's a work, he went for it. But you have Seth Rollins tied up with Ron Breaker . You have Logan Paul injured. You have Bronson Reed injured. If Austin Theory does not grab that brass ring now, when will he grab that brass ring? Austin Theory, who you know I'm a huge fan of and has should have, you know, has should have more an opportunity to grab that breast ring than he ever did. Has it today. Now is the time for Austin Theory to put himself on a different on a different level of where he's been for the last eight years . Does that does that sound like a situation that you can get down with? I I I I I agree with you that the the time would be would be now. It's today. Yeah. Yeah and they but they have to there you have to go somewhere here. They're gonna have to go somewhere with him. He's hitting people with chairs. We've seen the chair shots. What's next? Yeah. Let's be honest too. He's had several pass es at this brass ring now since you know pre-pandemic. He was on raw. I wouldn't say that John City was a brass ring. This is a wrestling. This is not like a big thing the thing was a brass ring, though. No, it wasn't. No, it was money and he had money in the bank. He was the money in the bank briefcase holder. That's true. He's had several passes at this point. Wasn't he also Vince's personal choice? Yes . I just think in to in today's modern situation, this is his there's a lane now for Austin Theory. So finally he's got a new look, he's associated with mage people, he's doesn't have a sick baby at home and about to travel to Europe . Now is the moment for Austin theory. I'm making faces at the baby. It's a great take by Dip. It's a great theory about Austin. 877-344-4893. Your pronunciation of Gunther , your thoughts on Austin theory. Um the w is there a world in which Obafemi beats Brock Lesnar a second time in a row this weekend? We'd love your predictions, your thoughts and also Promotional consider ation paid for by the following Destiny's Child, the writings on the wall. Now double platinum. Two Grammy nominations. Two number one hits. Bills, Bills, Bills, and Bugger Boo. Plus a sizzling new smash Destiny's child, the writing's on the wall, it's doors now, on Columbia CDs and cassettes. All right, let's talk to you. 877-344-4893. We've done a lot of talk about uh clash in Italy, the different pronunciations of Gunther's name, and so many other different things. Dip. Uh the reviews for double or nothing are quite frankly outstanding. Uh probably the highest reviews I've ever seen for any AEW pay-per-view. I have watched most of the card. I thought it was a great time. I think that venue is fantastic. Like you want to talk about a coup for AEW. I think the I think a big coup is deciding to run at the tennis center. Like I just think it it looks awesome. The vibe is amazing. But anyways, what were your yeah? What were your thoughts? I'm gonna try to call out something. I bought the view. I bought it. Wow. Um which I often do, and I and uh fell asleep for a portion of it because it was late and went to go watch it to the next day and HBO Max does not allow you to replay you you pay forty dollars and HBO Max does not let you replay it unless you're in some some some tier or something. Don't make people pay forty dollars for a pay-per-view and then not let you replay it the next day. Come on. Well, let me just say across both companies there have been some major problems with the replaying of PLEs either during or after. This is this was just straight up, you're not getting a replay. There's no let me try to find the replay. This was there's no replay. So if you were watching with your children and and the east coast and it was late for them, there is finish it the next day. Yeah. That's bad. In in a in a in a world in which everything is done on demand, that is absolutely crazy. Great. I don't even make it doesn't even make sense. The quality of the event, mage . Every single match was good. Every single one. I mean, it was a you say whatever you want. The quality of the matches are absolutely insanity. I mean, the the show's been good, man. If you're if you're if you're hating on it, you're not watching it. Yeah, I I think they've found themselves uh a really nice sweet spot for these pay-per-views because at this point it's so counter to WWE's programming. So if you are the kind of person who really enjoys a WWE PLE and you want your five match Saturday night boom three hours um sports entertainment, it's perfect. However, if you want like a hardcore wrestling event, that is the lane that AEW has truly carved out with these pay-per-views. It's very different. It's very different. It's a it's a they're very different feeling shows at this point. Very different feeling. Extremely , right? Like we're not saying that's definitely a plus for AEW. That's not a negative. It's just different. Oh no, I I I I I'd love the idea that you have multiple there are multiple ways to to skin a cat, dude. And and the these shows are vastly different. Listen, there's just no question about it. I've been outside and like talking to wrestling fans. It's been a good few weeks for AEW. It's just it just has. They there is a good bit of momentum around them. And to me, my favorite part about that is just how wrong people were who were hating on the Darby Allen title reign. I think it worked exactly SUG how they hoped it would. Yeah . It was it was mage. It was mage. Let's be let's be honest. They got to see the title, what, twice every week? He won it in shocking fashion. And then he went out on his sword. And then uh now they set somebody else up uh in Kevin Knight to potentially step into that scene and be elevated. Um I don't know if he's gonna Darby Allen, Kevin Knight is is a is a is a great feature. Yeah, it is. And then and then it's like where does Kevin Knight go after that? Does he move up? Is Darby Allen done with the title? What do you think about Kevin Knight? You think there's something going on there? I mean, he's definitely good wrestling. There's no question about that, but do you think there's something going on there? You think there's something going on? I think he's their answer to um to a Javon Evans. Not that everything needs to be a competition, because like we were just talking about, they carved out their own different lanes, but it it doesn't hurt to have somebody that is also you know young and super talented and exciting and somebody that you can push right at the top . Not that he's right at the top, but somebody who you can get there right away doesn't hurt. Yeah . Yeah. Yeah. And and uh interesting to see Mick Foley in a an AEW ring. I look good, man. Mick did look good. I I thought so as well. And I love the little thing the little thing that they did with Darby and MJF on the pre-show with with Mick Foley was great. Um I don't know if you saw it, but they did like a like a little teaser of the pay-per-view. There's a lot of criticism that they're putting the two main eventers out on the pre-show, but like they're obviously, you know, teasing they want you to buy the pay-per-view. Yeah, that's how it works. And that'll be able to launch it the next day. There was criticism for that? Because I actually thought I thought it's kind of cool you you brought out a huge name in Mick Foley who you hired here to be a part of your pre-show. The the purpose of the pre-show is to bring eyeballs to the main show. Max and Darby showed up in that ring with Mick Foley, and it looked like big time and important. And it's literally like five hours before they're gonna be in the ring. Yeah. I thought it was great. And then and then HBL Max though, y'all gotta y'all can't squander that goodwill with the no replay 's fault. It's not. It is not. And I don't think it's but I don't I I don't suspect it's their fault. I mean come on, but HBO Max can't do that to people. That's not cool. But but I'm telling you, this has been a tech thing, this has been a problem for a long time. I've had issues with with their pay-per-views before, even I think with pre HBO. This wasn't tech issue. This is like a we're gonna try to make you buy a higher tier thing to re to have re get replayed. Oh, you're saying there is a tier for replays. I believe so. I wasn't gonna find out. I could tell you that right now. I will tell you, I was not under the rest. Not a depression like that. I just I can't decide whether I think you're right about that. A different tier for replays. Cause I remember I looked it up online and that's what it said. Like and there was a there was huge Reddit feeds about how angry people were about this. Because people have kids . It's late. You know, late that pay-per-view went? Midnight, one o'clock in the morning or something. Something to do. Yeah, yeah. East Coast time. It started at eight, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was probably yeah, twelve thirty, one o'clock in the morning. And yes, it's a holiday, but like And people are there to see MJF, baby . Well again, this is this is the this is the one downside. With all the upside that I see in the pay per views. Right. It's tough. It's tough. So that I will say I I I was saying earlier I wouldn't mind a PL a PLE being seven matches instead of five matches. I will say the upside to the five matches is not thinking about a match starting at midnight, which is just brutal. Um do we still have uh Kelly, we still have Corey and Tim . We've got Tim. Let's go to Tim in in Charlotte who has a thought on the Gunther of it all. Hey Tim. Was Heyman given the contract to Gunther to get the title match for Cody? So I don't think the favor's still there . Yeah, that's right. He nego Heyman negotiated that. I guess you're right. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, that's that I I think that was the favorite. So I don't think and I don't think I think it's gonna be three I think if you're gonna go two more matches with Gunter and Oba. I think it's the final match is gonna be a summer slam. Thanks, guys. Enjoy your time in Italy, Peter. Thanks, buddy. Thank you, man. I'm looking forward to it. Uh we gotta talk about that too, P. Not just the pay-per-view, but I really don't know how I feel about this gimmick infringement. I understand you gotta go to Italy. You gotta do your job. But then you take in you taking a week. You bring in the wife, bring in the kid, you upgrade into business class. Who do you want? Who do you think you are? Greg, you would think you would think that Natalie would want to stay home for the week and be an independent woman. Yeah. Of course. That's what you were thinking about? No, that was off the cuff. No, that was freestyle. There's no way he could It's a good point by you. No, you you think I'm stealing your gimmick, the vacation. Yeah, you d you absolutely are. At least for next week. You absolutely are. Are there a lot of people taking the week? Taking the extra week. A lot of people in the uh the Fed taking the extra taking time? I don't know how many people are taking time. I know multiple people. I know multiple people taking family . Um yes, and and and well and so it's they're there for like days and there's there's so mu there's like three European TVs. Yeah. So people are already there for a long time. You know, Tess is a big Italy guy. Joe Tessatore . The crowd the crowd the crowd is gonna know why. Well that's just name he he's very Italian, Joe Tessore. It was very funny. It was very funny. I don't know w the the crowd in Italy is going to be insane. Yeah, that that is we can't sleep on that. I think that is gonna be they will compete for best crowd of all time. I I'm expecting like highest level. I I don't know. I don't know like shit. I can't wait for that. Oh, the Oba's gonna be. Who do we think's the most over in Italy? It's gotta be Oba . It could just be that Oba's most over everywhere that is on the table. I think it's gonna be hard to judge because I feel like they've been waiting for this moment so much and they got some heavy hitters on this card. They got Cody . Roman's there, Brock's gonna be there, Oba's there. It's hard to call it. Rhea . Yeah, I mean Rhea's always Rhea's always Rhea. Jade has been very good in her in her media and promo run recently, I want to say that. Agreed. I thought that too. I think Jade has been like finding her her voice when she's doing media and things like that. I I've I've been impressed with Jade. I don't know if I think that story is like like SGG, are you like fully invested in Rhea and Jade ? No , no, um, unfortunately not. It has it has gotten better, and I do like Jade as like the leader of a crew, but there is something for this story that's not not quite um clicking for me. It'll be over soon . Just like just like the Americana. Yeah. He's had enough. He hasn't watched yet, but he's had enough. Trust me . Um and and then of course uh Becky Lynch and Sol Ruka . Soul Sol Ruka has been it's man wrestling, it's such a supportive fan base in general, but it can also be incredibly fickle, man. Like you are the hottest thing smoking in NXT, and then if you get to the main roster and you have a couple of moments that don't go exactly how you want, you can certainly start to read the clippings and people starting to question what's going on. They ended up essentially SGG having no match at Saturday Night's Main event. Right. Basically just kicked the can down the road to a title match at what do you think that was? Do you think that was always the plan? I don't know. I was just gonna say I didn't expect them to I knew Seoul was gonna get a title match eventually, but I didn't think it was gonna be just the very next week she actually gets a title match without without uh having the real match without stepping into the real proving ground of um being in there with Becky Lynch one-on-one non-title and then pinning the champions. Maybe that's maybe they didn't want her to pin the champion. I don't know, but I I didn't see that coming either. Yeah, it it was just an interesting way to to to get there, but here we are now. And I will say this. It is five matches, but four of those five matches are incredibly high level. Um guys, if we're into our last minute here, what are you most looking forward to? Uh let's be honest, of the three big dogs, because it's it's Cody Gunther, it's Roman Jacob, and then of course Oba and Brock. Uh Dip, what's your pick? If you had to watch one because your parents were making egg salad, which which match you taking? Oba Brock . Me too. S U G? Roman Jacob, of course. I think there's not gonna be any any misses. These are all hits, but I gotta put my one in the air. It's the one that I've been waiting for. And I think you will still have that one in the air next week. I believe Roman Reigns will still be champion and maybe have Jacob Fatu working for him. Thank you, Kelly Murphy, Ben Queen, Emilio Sparks , uh dip, good luck in Florida, SGG, stay mage, and guys, uh enjoy yourself. Hey, bugam .