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Oh no. Marketers know that feeling. They optimize for the numbers that look great, like impressions. then they don't see revenue. You know what I'm talking about, don't you say? Yeah, all the time. Yeah. LinkedIn has a word for that. Bull spend. Bull spin. Yeah, instead you can get the highest ROAS of major ad networks with LinkedIn ads. Cut the bull spend. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend $250 and get a $250 credit. Go to LinkedIn.com slash Conan Terms Apply. Mm Hi, my name is Olivia Munn. Yeah. And I feel so excited and amazed about being Conan O'Brien's friends. That's so sweet. Yeah. All this new hear the yell back to school Ring the bell the shoes Walking blues Climb the fence books and pens I can do that we are gonna be friends I can tell we are gonna be friends. Hey everybody, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. This is a very good day because I'm joined, of course, by Sonom of Session. Yes. But today marks the Return, the heroic return. Of our good friend and associate, Matt Gorley. Come on, guys. I like the heroic part. Just fine. We uh we've missed you. Seriously. Yeah. Uh we've missed you. And just to update everybody. been on a paternity leave for No no, I I only I only bring it up because I think it's a world record. It says here No, um your daughter was born, I believe, eight years ago. She's a freshman in college. Oh how's she doing? Oh she's great. She's great. Uh no, you've been out for a little while. You've been out for a couple of months. I did. I took a little extended one and it was the greatest thing. It was fantastic. I mean I missed you guys. I did, but Man. Well, how's it going? It's going really well. I was able to spend a lot of time with my older daughter, which, you know, was kind of magical. And then my youngest daughter has just fit right in. And uh it you know, not to get too sentimental, but You sometimes when you have those moments in your life that you know to be the best moments, but you only know it after they're done. This was one I could tell when I was in that it was just amazing. You know, so happy that you had that. And also resentful. Yeah that you took so much time. Let me tell you something. Part of the happiness was I wasn't here. Exactly. When my daughter was born, I took twenty minutes. And when my son was born, I took four. Now, let me also just add to that, I'm a terrible father and an awful human being. So yes, I uh am I saying this is the way to go. You could have asked for some time. I could have asked for some time. Uh that was on me. I think I I took a c it was a commercial break. We were doing the late night show. The best part is he didn't even have to ask for time. You could have just told people he's taking time. Yeah. I know. I wanna say something though about your paternity leave real quick. It feels like you kept releasing other podcast episodes. It feels like you took a break. Only from us. Yes. And you were still doing all your other things. I recorded those all before the baby was born. Not true. Two stories. You can hear two kids crying in the background. Unless one of them's your wife having a nervous breakdown. And you often refer to the day's news as you were held up a newspaper during each recording. Yeah, as you were hosting all walking. You were, you know I mean first of all. You We might do baby walking. Um no listen, I understand those are more those are priority shows. Record 'em All I did was watch World War Two movies and dirty hairy movies with my baby while I held her. I think that's the best thing for a little baby girl to be hearing. He was into it. Make my day punk. And um lots of people getting blowed up. It's a great thing for a little forming brain. It was heaven for me. As that fontanelle is starting to seal. It was pulsing. It's watching it. Yeah. It's crazy. Um All right. I have some questions. Yeah. Uh how is your your youngest daughter's name is Dina? Smell the smell? Oh, I thought it was I think we're gonna go. So Nell. Nell, yeah. Um how is Nell different? She is night and day different than my first daughter. My first daughter is this wonderful tempest, like just so funny, so crazy. Nell just came out smile every time you see her just a big smile, she just sits there. She's a wonderful little lump on the log. So we got one of each, which kind of magnifies their differences in such a wonderful way. I don't know. It's I just feel great. I feel lucky. Yeah. Yeah. It's and first of all, you have You came in, you seem seem very happy. You've got that kind of doesn't he he not have a glow. You do have a glow. Well I birthed the children. So it's hard and glow. That sounds fun. Yeah that's why he had such a long paternity leave. Yes. He did sorry, Matt, you can edit this out if you want to. He did say when we were sitting around earlier, he did say that uh I forget how we phrase it, this time around he gained a little more weight than the first time. And we were like for your pregnancy? Or I was trying to explain and now you're gonna make me uh in front of you because I wanted to be able to do that. No, I'm glad Adam brought this in because You're a big fat fuck now. He I mean uh you you're listen you're all listening, but when you waddled in today's put on ten pounds. Isn't that crazy? Waddled in. And hello. Uh, I think I had read somewhere that's still going down this road. Oh, I just want to hear it. I hate to do this kind of because what if this is just bullshit. But that there is this evolutionary Sort of process to men in postpartum that they lose testosterone temporarily and it's a kind of thing to keep them historically. tied to the mother and children. From straying. Yeah. From straying. And and it's a kind of thing that that has uh evolved over time and the the survival of those fittest people because the father was there with the child and the mother. I mean so I'm curious, how does this relate to you there can be some sympathy Weight gained because of the loss of testosterone. You also walked in, he's got huge breasts now. You have huge lactating breasts and you're a big fat fuck And I don't mean either of those in a derogatory way. No, no, no, big fat fuck with titties. But when you waddled when you waddled in here While D here wearing uh his uh his D cup, I was I did come in I'm really the bucket. Yeah, yeah. Uh good, but so you gained some weight, but you you still look good. Thanks. Um I don't feel good. Do you think Do you feel like your testosterone levels had dropped? Uh, you mean am I out there just hounding it? Um is it pounding it though? No, I tend to hound. Okay. Hounding it. Pounding his creditors for more time. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Oh, I'm hounding it all right. You're doing what? Uh, I don't I think so. I mean I've been certainly been like a sentimental mess. In a g in a sort of like good way. Yeah. Just every single thing. knocks me down in a like kind of sweet way. Well I don't think I've ever had you talking about Do you feel like your testosterone dipped? No? Well, first of all after your kids were I'm not asking for the my uh My mother in law, Pam, God rest your soul, she Did say I remember once sort of talking about how I think I've grown wiser over the years. I'm not as intense as I used to be. I was very focused and very driven in my twenties and thirties and forties. And I said, I think I'm maturing and she just, you know, she was an expert in these matters and she just said, um No no no, your testosterone level has dropped. Like I was trying to credit it all to wisdom. And she was like, No, no, no, you just have less of that, you know, asshole juice running through your body. See, I went through a male pregnancy, he went through menopause. No, I did. I did. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. I I don't think that I got the sentimentality. I'm I'm waiting for that part. You know? I don't get all mushy. You don't really ever? I do I uh when it comes to your kids especially. No, just when I see old clips of late night. Uh, look at him without Roker. Nineteen ninety four. Al Roker. No, um no I do. I I do. I'm I don't know. Well I'm just saying stuff. But I think uh But yeah, I am very First of all, very glad you're back. Uh glad to be back. Because you are a very important voice here on this show, as you know. And I say that uh with with no ridicule or jokes attached to it. Or seriousness. Or seriousness or real honesty. Yeah. Um no, but uh we're really happy. I'm so glad to be back. I did miss you guys. I edited the show while I was gone. So it was really interesting to hear. You guys kind of feel like I was there in a one way sort of way. Were you ever coming in with your uh patent crits, but then realizing that you were just listening to us and you couldn't participate? Of course. And I don't have any actual cash with me, but I'm making a hundred dollar bill that I would like to send to Eduardo for his Little bitch put you in your place. Yay. That's great. Well that was an iconic moment in the podcast. It was. When Eduardo call me uh little bitch. Um, and you know what? Some people say our country is terribly divided. Unified the country. Yeah. Everyone. I don't care if you're a red state, blue state, uh, you know, Trumper, never Trumper. Everyone said, Yes, that guy's a little bit. Yeah. Everybody It was a beautiful It was a really sweet Definitely so. Everybody in the country listening to Lil Bitch and Big Fat Fuck with Dem titties. Yeah, big fat fat. Drive time radio. Yeah. We bring people together. Yeah with our special brand of the truth. Can we uh give a very special thank you to David Hopping for coming covered for Corals? David was fantastic because I edited and I I at a time was just like oh they don't they don't need me. He's great. You know what I mean? We need you. No, he's I won't have uh I mean David I can take in small doses. And you know I love David. Yeah. But he works Hillary Duff into every conversation. And um and I listen, I I I I like Hillary Duff. I Gladly have her here on the pod. Yes. Uh yeah, whenever we clear up whatever legal thing we have between us. Um, but uh but yeah, he is so obsessed with Hillary Duff. Can I just uh shout out, in all honesty, my wife, who who did all the work, obviously, for uh for all of this. She's been amazing and so Amanda. The two girls. Yeah. Yeah. Amanda, uh your wife. Very beautiful, very talented. You're a lucky man. I am. Man, you're lucky. Yeah. Okay. Well, you got to be a good thing. It's kind of creepy the way you're saying it. You're just saying when he said oh, when he said you gotta meet my wife, I thought it was gonna be like a broom with A face painted on it. Her name's Amanda. Say hi, Amanda. I mean, come on. Gorley's wife. And this total smoke show comes walking in. She's gorgeous. The same could be said for you, too. I mean both of you are really punching up. Yes. Yeah. I mean, no offense, but oh my God, are you punching up? Liza meant you know that Liza visited me in the hospital. What do you mean? They just think it some total accident happened and that's how I got this woman. You know, like she was there and then accidentally got married. Yeah, exactly. Thank God I found you. Yeah. And you think I'm handsome. Uh no, uh yes. We're both very lucky men. Yes, you are. And you're also as a lucky fella? Your husband. Tactikeesian. Yeah I can't believe I'm saying Tactikeesian now. Tac tac. You don't even know his last name do you? Yeah, I no, it's Baroyan. Yeah. It's Tactike. It's not Tactikeesian, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway, uh this is getting really nice and everything, so I just want to get us back to ground zero. Okay? Please do. You suck, you were way too long. I'm a fat guy. Fat guy and you've gotta lose the weight. Okay, uh Your husband's name's Tec Takeesian. You're way too loud. And you don't help me as much as you should. Where did that come from? Why? And you're still a little bit. No. One, two, three, little boo. No, I can't. No, I can't. Why does it feel so right? I can't do it. You can't do it? I honestly could not do it. I don't know. You've called me everything. You've actually called me a little bitch before. I'm sure I have. Called you a d a dick, an asshole but I can't I don't know why little bitch hurts. No I think I uh just uh I feel like it's it's too far. You think Eduardo went too far? No, I don't think he went too far. I think I would go too far. And I think it's because I was your assistant for so long. And I wouldn't want to be a good thing. Isn't that weird? I know and I Wait a minute, you have some I Kinda does inclusive. I do. I mean when he said it everybody else should be. And I like was like, Oh my God, Eduardo. Eduardo was scared. He went home. He was really terrified that like it was over. I feel good about it. And then you remembered And then you remembered who I am. Also, you probably went home thinking it could be over for me, but if it is totally worth it. What a way to go. Anyone in the country would have hired you. Uh well, super happy to have you back. Yep. Um, and uh we've reunited As you know, probably the there's isn't there a movie where they there's different stones and they gotta put them in the glove and then the the Shankar stones of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? Sure. Are you talking about Thanos and the Avengers? I just knew that No, we're talking about Indiana Jones. I don't know. There's a lot of stones that need to come together. Also next week I'm back on paternity leave. Uh all right. You know my guest today from the TV show The Newsroom and the film X-Men Apocalypse. Now you can see her in the Apple TV Plus series Your Friends and Neighbors. Very delighted to have her here today. Olivia Munn, welcome. John and I've talked about this before. Like growing up, it's like to to even think that you'd become Conan O'Brien's friend, let alone like sitting here talking with you, is like such a it's a really hard thing to go back and be like, hey, like one day you're gonna be friends with Conan O'Brien. It's kind of it's very surreal. Well that's a very nice thing to say. Um spend a little time with him. Yeah, you'll see very quickly. I think in ten minutes you'll want out. You'll want out very badly. Um But you know, I'm I'm so happy you're here and we were chatting just before we came in here to do the pod. I call it pod because there's not time to say podcast. Okay. We save a lot of time. Yeah. With doing that. I did. And we should stop now. Uh but we were chatting and you were just talking about how, which I can relate to and I think you can relate to, Matt, but you're tired. You're tired because you're You've been taking care of your kids and you just said, I am so tired. And I said, Trust me. This podcast today is going to be your time out. But you're going through the same thing. Yeah, newborn. I got a Yeah. I'm I mean, she's She's wonder wh what do I do? Do I talk? Do I have I'm still his first day back since a maternity leave. The children are now in their thirties. He's been gone for a really long time. Yeah. But um and I think too long, but um We'll figure that out later. Uh HR tells me I'm not allowed to bring it up. But but Oh my God. But you were you're tired. You're you were exhausted. I am pretty tired. I'm r I'm really tired. I was like As I was as I was coming in, John was like, Have fun on Cone in. I was like, I'm so tired. Um, but I'm so excited to be here because I was saying like like our they're four in nineteen months. And this crazy thing is that like when everyone's there and like we're happy to help and be there to help. My mom is there to help too, and my stepdad, like we wanna be in the mess, you know, just be in it with them and the problem is is that just leaves us with nothing on the other side. So like we're giving to our work and then we come home and it's like we can do it all ourselves. We and it's just um and I just don't have that instinct. Oh when I come home Um I'm very happy to say 'cause I have we have a lot of help. I have That's just me. I am surr and I have people that carry me from the toilet to my other toilet. And I'm going to go to the bathroom a lot. Yes. There's no stop and they don't stop anywhere else. And there's a toilet on a little chariot they carry you. I'm constantly but my by the way, I if that's what's happening, I think you need it. Yeah. No no, trust me. I don't think this is like vanity at all. I think there's there's something going on. That's a really good point. And thank you for taking my side on this because you know my wife is always like does this really necessary? And I'm like, you have no idea. I'm sorry, this is. But I think that's your problem is saying we want to be part of the you know you can meet the children later in life. Do you know what I mean? You can meet them later. You're saying her problem is that she wants to be involved with her kids' in her kids' code. Oh, okay. People like Winston Churchill, he was raised by uh people on the estate and then he was like brought to meet his parents at a certain age. I'm serious. They're like Come, it's time to go meet your father. Hello, Potter You know, it was a weird thing and he's just call you by your first name, don't they? Hello, Conan. Yes. It's creepy. Exactly. Yeah. But it's casual, but still like formal. Super casual. Yeah. I just think um like every little moment just like I think that John and I connect so much to our own childhoods. Like we have such distinct memories of what our childhoods were like and and we see our children um in ourselves so much. So I think it's like every time we're like the funny thing is like Malcolm will do something and then he and I will both have a John and I will both have a different reaction based on like what our childhood is. And so that sometimes they're very we're very different. He's Irish Catholic, you know, white collar family. And then my w I grew up in a military family with like My my mom, a Vietnam Vietnamese refugee. Yes, right? Yeah. Who came here in nineteen seventy five. The day the war ended. Oh my God. Yeah, was out on the the last the last um the last boats out and um and so you have a completely different frame of reference than Then uh John uh Malaney, Irish Catholic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like we like the other day Like m he like Malcolm is like, Why can't we do this thing and and um and John was like, Oh well 'Cause it's closed now, everything's closed and then I was like at the same time I was going, Well, because we've decided that we're not going to do that because and then and we both looked at each other going like Way do we go? We did not, and we do that a lot, and then then s one of us will kinda start to start to talk slower, and that's the one with that's the cue to be like we followed that person, whoever. So it was You know, we it's closed. So we're not gonna go today, but we're gonna go tomorrow and then we're like, Oh, okay. I don't and So your kids now think you're just liars. She's all parenting is. Yeah. She says twins as well. Yeah. three of us have kids that are around the same age. Yeah. My boys turn f five in July, yours is in October. Yeah. And I think four. Yeah. Yeah. Just turn four at the end of November. Okay. I used to tell our kids that Obama canceled it. I'm I'm serious. I used to do that. I used to tell them You know, Obama canceled it. That's why we can't do it. And they they said, What? And I said, Yeah, it was on CNN and my I think it was my daughter said, What is that? The Conan Nonsense Network And I was like, Okay, well this doesn't work anymore. The Republicans now She was two when she said that, yeah. I just said that to John just yesterday. I was talking about something that my mom had said to me that was so like flippant and uh in innocuous. She wasn't even thinking. I know at that time she didn't think it was anything, but what she said I knew was a lie. Because it was just like when I was a five year old, you know, she was like, Oh, whatever it was was just like a little lie. And I and it I know in that moment a course the ch the course changed from being like, I believe everything my mother says to being like, Oh, you're just you're not gonna be telling the truth about things. Right, right. And then I look at myself as an adult, I'll be like, Ma, my mom knows everything. She's so annoying. She knows everything. She's always right. And yet I'll still be like, no. I did that because that's my my default is to be like, no, because I remember when it all changed for me. Well, when I think as a kid, like it, you know, I said to John, we never know when we're creating a There's things that my mom said and did that she will never ever be like, I remember that, because there was one time when it's like in the eighties, right? So my mom would uh had us my sister and I, um my steps are same age as me, came home from school, puts us to nap. And then I hear the door close and I look outside. I go into the living room and she's in the van, pulling out of the driveway. We're nobody else is gonna be home. We're like at four years old. This is the eighties when you could like, you know, leave your kid at home, you go run and come back. And I ran out crying and screaming. I thought she was leaving us. And she's annoyed. Now she's gotta go back okay, get back in the house. And then just being like, and then I was so confused. Like now she's annoyed with me. And did I do something wrong? But she was leaving me. And it was just And that became such a core memory for me. It's pretty good. Not for the seventies, but for the eighties. Yeah. Yeah. We used to also in the um trucks like dr you know sit in the back of the flatbed, but on the hump where the the wheel we can sit in there like just, you know, a free ride through the highways. Like no one no one got in trouble then. It was a different time. Yeah. I'm amazed at the things that we did in the when I was growing up. in the seventies. 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Is he always trying to turn something into a comedic riff? Is that is that something he does at at home or not so much? No, I can't see him doing it, but I it must be happening 'cause I'll be watching it like I'll I haven't seen his stand up until recently. We were in London. I watched it and I was like, You've been like clocking all of this? Core memories. You're making core memories. Everything is a core memory. Everything's his latest special is called Core Memories. No, it's yeah, because uh But I have noticed something with him that you might relate to as like a comedian, 'cause I've I now I see it now with him is that like Malcolm said something the other day too. I think and and when something's really funny, he there's not a big reaction. It's just like, Oh yeah. Uhhuh. And like his his brain is already it's almost like he's like writing it down in notebook in his head. Yes. You don't immediately laugh. Exactly. You just go, Oh, that's very funny. Yeah. Yeah. I see. Yes. That can be used later. Uh-huh. I enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes there's not. Sometimes there's really not. Yes. That's very good. That's very good. I think it clicks it just literally it it flips a switch instead of like where the rest of us are just like that's funny. It I think it immediately flips this other switch that's like That is very funny. Let me log this down. Let me not forget the nuances of whatever this whole little moment was. So that happens a lot more than than I recognize like, you know, the first year we're together. Yeah, it's not as obvious as John saying, you know, you're You know, your s Malcolm falls down and he's like, Wait a minute, I can use this and keep crying. So I get down what it's like. Um We were talking just before we got started and I thought I want to ask you about this because your early life, there's you know There's a lot happening. Your mom comes here. when she has you where are you living? Is it Oklahoma? Oklahoma. I was born in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma. But then um it doesn't work out. Her marriage doesn't work out. My father um cheats on my mother when I was six months old. Oh boy. And then she yeah, she sh my sister was Two and a half. I was um a six months, and my mom was uh had his dry cleaning and was going through a suit jacket and found two movie ticket stubs and went up and asked him, like, Did you go to the movies with somebody? And he said, Yes. And she goes, Was it a girl or a guy? And he goes, It's a girl and he goes Is it a date? He's like yes, and then so she leaves. And then um She goes to Japan? No, so she leaves so my okay, my mom and m uh my mom, my grandmother and her nine children escaped Vietnam um in the fall of Saigon. And in seventy five. And they came out to Oklahoma because they um there was a um Christian University president that was like, I'll sponsor all ten of you to come to Oklahoma. And they went there. And then um my mom went to university and everybody still lived there in Oklahoma. And then when my when she left my father, she went back home to my grandmother's house with you know my uncles and everybody there to take, you know, take care of her and and us. And um my mom would tell stories about m my dad coming to get us to for visitation and my uncles would be so mad and they'd pick up huge rocks and just throw them at him and like throw them at the his car and like it was just they were just the the saigon came out in them. Yeah. Ancient way of showing displeasure. Do you know what I mean? I'm passive aggressive with you, Mac, but I don't pick up large boulders and throw them at you. But now that we know that's an option. It is an option. But she so then she goes So then and then eventually she she remarries um my first stepfather. My mom's been married three times. My second stepfather, it's important to note that he is amazing. His name is Sam, but my first stepfather was not a good guy at all. Really but for fourteen years of my life from like a two to sixteen and so she married him and he's in the military and then that uh brought us to the and he was a bit of a like a rageah yelling Person would you call it. He was very abusive. Abusive in many ways. Um, and th it's interesting, like w um with abuse, right? Like There was definitely screaming and yelling, but there wasn't like a rage like when you see a movie just somebody coming in, Wow, what's going on in here? It was just like that, you know, your the your blood runs cold. You just feel you know, you could just feel it. It's like when you're kids, you're like dogs, right? Where you can feel things before anything is said. You could It's raining outside and I would learn like later in life, like, Okay, rain that's actually bad because he might be late for work or somebody might did that. And then he's gonna come home to be really in a bad mood. So you're just kind of like clocking all these things. He he wore um always at home, he he would wear like flip flops and so like the sound of like flip loss on linoleum 'cause in a in a military housing you have like the same kind of concrete floors that linoleum on on top of it. And just like those kind of things that you just kind of perk up and go, like, Okay, someone's coming or danger's coming. And Just before we came in here, you were talking about how you you seem like someone who obviously went through a great deal and then at some point had the strength and tenacity to say, I'm getting out of here. 'Cause you talked about getting in your car and driving. This is you know, when you're much older, but you decided I'm gonna go to Los Angeles. You got in a car and you just started driving and you said, you know, your your car broke down at one point and you were looking for a replacement part on the side of the road. Yeah. I mean, there's this real fire in you, like I'm going to get out. I always wanted to be an actor. When I was like, uh maybe seventeen or something, my best friend gave me this book called An Actor's Guide Your First Year in Hollywood. And I was like, Page one, let's go. We're gonna make it. And um and so I I told my mom that I wanted to be an actor. And you know, my mom being an immigrant was like, Oh, okay, that's not, you know, my My mom and her siblings all came to America with nothing and they all have like, you know, masters degrees and PhDs and become like top engineers and one has worked for NASA and they're doctors. They've and so my mom is like, you know, we don't have a dentist or a lawyer in the family yet. And I was like, Yeah. Yeah, I was like, Okay, yeah. And you also you can understand where they're coming from. Yeah. that if you if they're coming from that reality And then you just one generation removed is saying, I'm gonna try improv. Uh and I'm gonna throw Uh and I'm gonna play, you know, some uh um some theater games. I can understand why they'd be freaked out. Yeah, especially because she's like, Wait, you wanna do what? Like she did tell me a long time ago, she goes, You want to be active. Only one man can do it. Tom Cruise. You're not Tom Cruise. I was like what a mom there's a lot of things. You're not Tom Cruise. I was like, I'm not. However, he and I do have the same birthday. So um but uh And so it was um I would ask her a lot and she was like if you go to college and use your degree for one year then I'll I'll say, okay, you can go. And now I know at this point I'm an adult. But it's an Asian family, so it really mattered that my mom was, you know, there to support me and also I didn't have the money to go do that and And I needed a lot of s support and and permission from my mom. And so I um graduated um from University of Oklahoma with journalism degree. And then I worked at the N B C affiliate for one year in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And you were sideline. No, I was doing the assignment desk. You've been into a newsroom before? So there's the like we go into a newsroom, there's this assignment desk and it's where you answer the calls for people going like, I love what you know Jane was wearing today on the what color was that suit? And it's also people going like um there was a, you know, um, I've got a complaint about, you know, XYZ and what's happening over here on this street. There's also all of these Police scanners, paramedic scanners, fire department scanners. And it's constantly all the time. And your job is to hear it all and then to tell people and to be like, Conan, go to eight eighty ninth street. There's a, you know, there's a fire at McCready's Bond. Get over there. Exactly. And they're right there in front of me. And I hear nothing. And I could hear producers screaming out what he like, you know, they're like, A school bus turn over on twenty ninth you're like and I'm like, Really? They're like, oh my gosh, there's a house fire on on Robertson. I'm like, there is? And I'm like I I'm the worst person at this job ever. I it was Your job is not to go, you don't say. Wow. There must be some fire. I'd be literally we should put it on the news. I'd be watching people get up and run and I'm like What? They're like And they'd be like they'd be into the parking lot screaming, What's happening? And I I guess couldn't hear it. And so I took that job for a year and then Then they ask me, don't ask me why, they're like, Do you want to stay on longer? And I was like, Well I told my mom I would only do this for a year before I I would go. And I was just determined to just do a year. And then I started thinking like, Oh man, maybe I maybe I will. I don't know. I talked to my mom about it. She goes, You know what, just why don't you just wait another year, just like one more year, and then you you then you should go out to California and give it a try, but just one more year. So I was like, okay. And then one day, speaking of core memories, like not knowing when you're creating them, my sister was getting dressed and she was in the bathroom, putting on her makeup and she said, Oh, you know, mom said the funniest thing to me the other day. She said, You know, Olivia keeps wanting to go to California to be an actor. And I just told her like next year. And if she says anything to you about it, just tell her next year. And we'll just keep saying next year, next year until one day she'll forget about it. And my sister said it of just like Mom is so silly, and that's so silly. And I I'm pretty sure my sister doesn't even know this story 'cause it probably didn't even clock to her. But in that moment I was like, oh my God, like. Well why is this working? Like why why why it 'cause it clearly worked on me, I thought. Well, I'm letting it work. Why am I letting it work on me? Well, because What if I don't make it? And if I don't make it, then for the rest of my life I could always say Well, I was gonna be an actor, but my mom wouldn't let me. Right. I was gonna Yeah, yeah. In a way, uh you have an out. I have an out. Yeah. Forever. So I I had um this old like beat up Land Rover discovery that like broke down like every twenty miles or so. And it it was not a good thing for the environment to do, but we took out the catalytic converter because in Oklahoma you you could. And the catalytic converter allows a more to have just more like horsepower. And it like and it's really bad for the environment because it doesn't it lets all the exhaust kind of out, but in Oklahoma you could do it. So uh So the the the mechanical is like, you know, you take this out you're gonna get like you're gonna be able to go a lot faster and you're gonna get more shoots gasoline at the back propelling you forward. And um and so and then I also had a really had a crack in my radiator and I knew about that, but I couldn't afford to you're driving Chernobyl. You're low- You're kind of low on uranium. So I um so then I had to drive, like, um got in my in the car and I was to go from Oklahoma to Texas and then all the way through, you know, New Mexico, Arizona, and then to California. But it like it stopped like every two hundred miles and um 'cause do you have to stop? open the gaskets, put in the the radiator fluid, you know, to the freon to, you know, keep it going. And then then at one point it just was like steam was coming out. I was in the middle of um New Mexico and the steam was just like spewing out and it's like the check engine lights coming on. So I pull over and I'm like, oh my gosh. And like, the the hose for the radiator had like had blown. It was like a cracking it. I'm like I just I'm on the side of the road on the highway, like look you know, like walking for a while, going through the brush, and then I find a hose. I'm looking for something that I could use. And I find a hose. And because I've already had to do these things that's a radiator hose. No, no, no, not a radiator hose. Okay. No, it was a hose. A hose. It was a it was I don't know what kind of hose. It wasn't a water hose. It was something But I did it because in college, my best friend Kara, she's very she taught me a lot of of this stuff. And um, and so this had happened once before when we're in Oklahoma during college. And I was like, What are we doing? She's like, We're gonna go find a hose. It's like, What do you mean? She's like, We're gonna find something and like so we like on the side of the road, you just keep like looking and looking and like you'll find something. And so You know, I look it wasn't easy it wasn't like tw I was like an hour or so just like treasure hunting? I'm just saying you may have a real talent here. Well you just search and searching to find something and I I carried um the screwdriver and I carried like the heat resistant duct tape. I mean I had the whole thing 'cause like this was a situation that I had experienced for like a over a year. I've been going through this. So you'd think actually that I would have kept like extra hoses. That's the key. Not if your yeah not if your experience is Just go outside and look around. It's like shopping at Minike. Um But we found it and it got me through it got me to the very like all the way to Altadina where I was meeting cousins. And so how long before you got work? Well it depends on what you how you describe work. So in An Actor's Guide Your First Year in Hollywood. They tell you after the chapter on Finding a Hose. This book is really good. You know how like they they up they do like a a new a new edition. Maybe they should do a new edition interviewing me for now. The new addition, yeah. So um I uh it says like you to become an actor, you need to join the the union. And how do you join the union? You get your side card. How do you get your side card? Well, you book something that gives you a side card or you go and be an extra. And you be an extra and you get like pink slips. I think it was like three pink slips equals like one SAG card. That's what I'm gonna get. You did? Did you get it? Yeah, for being an extra. Wait, how many how many pink slips did you get? Three? Did you get did you get uh speaking parts? No, I was just No, I was a high school student even though I looked thirty eight. Uh and they I saw what's the credits. It said creepy high school students. Yeah, prematurely age. Did everyone get one or did they just give it to you? There was it was call a show called The Smart Guy on like uh Was it Nickelodeon or something? I can't remember. And one of the actors was someone we knew from an improv group. And so he got three of us as featured extras to get our SAG cards. What was the what was the featured part? Creepy guy in a high school. Like we weren't we weren't like speaking. It's some kind of it seemed like a game. So surely background work. It was the background work. Yeah. Yeah. And but I I thought you just go. And then you're like every background person gets like a I didn't know there was like a a special thing. Like you have to be like you have to have a featured whatever that means. But so in the book it says like Go to Central Casting. And you bring your passport and another identification and you go there and you line up. So I go to central casting out in Burbank. And like there is a line that goes, you know, down the block, down the block, around the block. And I'm there, like password in hand, the biggest smile on my face. I'm like, we're doing it. Yeah. We're we're gonna do it. We're here. I'm the new Tom Cruise. Just like the book says you guys have the book too? Yeah. Um and um and I was like literally the only person smiling the entire time. I was like, this is it. And I get to the front. And the first one I did was Gilmore Girls. Couldn't believe it. I got cast on Gilmore girls. And I get to Warner Brothers. I see all these people there and no one else is smiling. It's 4 a.m. And I'm just like, guys. We're doing it. We've made it. And then this one guy brought me over and he's like, Come here. He's like, Is this your first time doing this? I'm like, Yes, yes. He's like, Okay, he's like, What um what color did you bring? I was like, What do you mean what color? And he was like, What color did you bring? I said, I I don't I just have like winter coats and stuff. He goes, Hold on. He he hands me his red his red scarf and he's like you need this so that they can see you in the background. He's like he then he puts on a red hat and he goes, and you want to make like big gestures. He's like, you know, like you can say hi to a friend that's way over there. And like so he had all these like tips and tricks and taught me about like bringing Tupperware so that I can like take food home and like how we want to get into mail penalties. And it was like this whole thing I learned. Yoda of background your first defense. Some of the advice I'm not sure. I I have a hard time watching Gilmore Girls because there's a guy in the background who's always flailing like he's on fire. He's dressed like where's Waldo. I can't understand Rory. But I only did it I only did uh one other um background. uh job the very first thing I booked was this uh was it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Oh, there you go. Sonas my jam. Yeah. Oh, wait a second. So I couldn't believe it. I was this is so exciting. then Monday morning rolls around and I'm waiting and it's supposed to be film on Monday and I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm waiting. And then I I try to get a hold of somebody at the agency, like no one's answering, try to get somebody the management company, no one's answering because it's super early in the morning. I'm like, I feel like I'm supposed to be there already. And then finally I get a call from production. And the woman's like, Oh my God, we transposed the last two numbers of your cell phone. My number at the time was 0608. So they were calling 0806. And they're like, I'm so sorry. We had to go audition all of the extras for this role. And I was like, What do you mean? They're like, We told your managers, but my manager at the time. was too busy starring and filming his own movie. Oh God. That weekend. Oh, come on. That he didn't give me any of the any of the bro. Mm-hmm. Oh my god. I would give him just a number of more chances if I it's not too. I'd give him 15 more chances. Yeah. I was like, I was like I you guys, I was like, I'll be right there. I'll be right there. Like, I'm sorry we've had to move like but don't worry, we'll remember you for the next time. I thought, of course you're not going to. back at my start and there were things I desperately wanted to happen. didn't happen. And then later on I realized that if those things had happened. the real great shots wouldn't come along for me. It would have set me off on a different road, so Because you go on this streak of attack of the show, you get Daily Show. Yeah, Daily Show. You got offered a part on thirty rock, which you couldn't end up doing. And then you do the newsroom. Yeah, I um that was like my first big like be a myth to take on, right? Like the Daily Show with John Stewart was a it Those both are like kind of simultaneous, like and they're very different in their own ways. But I knew that I was like just the outlier in that whole cast of the for the newsroom. And that, you know, and actually after my first day of filming, the very first scene that you see me in in season um in episode two, season one. What's this girl from the Daily Show gonna do? And I was like, and I kinda felt that pressure a little bit, but also at the same time felt like like I didn't know a lot about like the etiquette of like filming on on sets and like how like I would ask a lot of questions. I would go to Sorkin and be like, Can you explain all these little things to me? Cause I was like, I mean, I didn't write the character you did. So I I would and so there is like a little and I would ask other actors be like, How would you say this line? And they'd be like, What? Like you can't. And I was like, Why would I just wanna use my brain if I can have everyone's, you know, help and and involved in this and I was looking at I knew I was going I had like such an amazing high caliber group of actors around me and I was like, Oh man, I don't I just have to like kind of narrow in and think about what I'm doing. And I I at that time in entertainment, I feel like a lot of times I've seen characters like that play really overly demanding or apologetic and I just wanted to play it straight. I just was like there's Just any there's nothing has come close to I I stopped filming that show in two thousand. Fourteen, seventeen, fourteen? Something like that. A long time ago. And I nothing has come close to that because of the challenges that Sorkin put for me in there to like really make things really small, but still give it as much impact. It'd be very hard to act in his stuff because he put so much dialogue in there. It's so dense. And I'm when I watch his stuff, I'm always very he's obviously a great writer and He's really a savant at at this. He does great work, but I'm always thinking, Yeah, I I I couldn't work for that guy. Memorize all the I couldn't and and what you know me, I'd just be making up gibberish. And he also loves walking and talking. So that business where you know every literally can't walk and talk. I can't walk and I cannot walk and I cannot Unless you're being carried on a toilet. If carried on a toilet why? Oh my scenes. But you've I mean I'm thinking it's interesting because you You've Had kids, I know that you then battled breast cancer and you made this decision to just take time off, but I I heard you say somewhere, I'm not gonna do some announcement that you won't be seeing me for a while. Which I thought was cool because when people announce I'll be stepping down from my career. Yeah. Momentarily, I always think no one asked. You know, I'm like I always think it's so funny when people do that. I'm like, you don't play for the Lakers. Like no one's being like, Where are they? Tuesday night, where are they? I'm like, you're an actor. Like everyone wants to make this big announcement and it's like I think if there's somewhere where people are expecting you to be, yeah, you know, then okay, you should let us know we're not gonna be there. But it was like it was a d it was a personal decision. And yeah, I just felt like I just had gone through If your wife dealt with post postpartum, but I had the worst postpartum anxiety. Did you have that? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I was ready for postpartum depression. I'd never heard of postpartum anxiety. And so it was um like about a month after Malcolm was born and All of a sudden I just like I wake up at four a.m. My eyes just pop open and I just go. Just feel it in my chest. every day. It's like that every day for almost a year. And I I just I I would just have to hold his arm going from room to room sometimes and that would just be like cool. The rats like sometimes it'd be cool, but it would always be there. And I didn't understand what it was. I didn't really say anything to anybody about it. I just told them like I don't really feel good or I'm just kind of feeling anxious. And it wasn't until um wasn't for like nine months or something until finally I like opened up to think my therapist about it and I I w wasn't able to make a lot of breast milk. Um I really tried and my son was struggling because I was n not giving him any any any nourishment and it was uh So frustrating and so I say, I'm just stopping, I'm gonna put him on formula, he's gonna be okay. But by Stopping cold turkey like that. I didn't know. Even if I made a little bit, what happens is your hormones drop. Oh and everything. Like I hadn't I was not prepared for that. So then it just it just dropped me into like the the depths of postpartum hell. And I was viraling and then I ended up getting um people would ask me like what what were your thoughts? Well the thing is I didn't have thoughts. Thank God I didn't have any thoughts of self harm or hurting anyone else. Um, and I have s my heart goes out to every woman who's experiencing that, and there's not enough sympathy and empathy and understanding for that. It's absolutely um horrifying to to feel those things, I can imagine. Yeah. So that was a big part of the reason why I was like, okay, I need to take some time away, but I wasn't thinking about that yet. right when I was getting out of that postpartum haze, I was like, I'm feeling good. Then I get diagnosed with breast cancer. Yeah. And then it was like it was a a very aggressive, fast moving cancer that was like all over both breasts. So I went through many surgeries, five surgeries. And then in that process I was like, I think I need to step away from being in the public eye. Wow. And it's also just important to point out, you had no symptoms. And you took this lifetime risk assessment test. Right. Which told you you had a very high number and that's saved your life. I mean, that's huge. Yeah, the had a clear mammogram and a clear ultrasound and I did clear genetic testing um as well or genetic testing, it came back clear. A lot of people ask about BRCA and BRCA is um is a very well known breast cancer gene, but there are many breast cancer genes. And um I tested for all cancer genes. Yeah. So um there there's this thing I know. The lifetime risk assessment test. And it's a free online test. It takes minutes to take. It's been around for a very long time, but a lot of people don't know about it. Anything above twenty percent is is considered high risk. And it's a score that will tell you how likely you are to get breast cancer in your lifetime. And mine was thirty seven point three percent. Okay. So I went to go with the M R I. And the doctor call me that day and he's like, I think I I see something on um on your right breast. You should you should go get a an ultrasound. Okay, I go get the ultrasound. And then doctor's taking, you know, some time and it's it's never really good when they're quiet, right? So I'm like, Is it everything okay? And just like, Well, I see the one from the M R I, but now I'm finding Two more. Oh fuck. Okay. And then she's explains it to me. So with our women, our breasts are like circles and they put a cross through it, and then there's quadrants. And so multifocal means there's m more than one in one quadrant. Multi quadrant is that this two different quadrants. It's not it's not that abnormal to have multifocal in one quadrant, but it's Abnormal to have it in Yeah two quadrants. Yeah. Multiple quadrants. So they're like, Okay, you should go get a biopsy. So I go get a biopsy. And they're like, Yeah, it's a very aggressive, fast moving cancer. And and it's not normal to have multifocal, multi quadrant at your age. And then they're like, Well, let's go back to your original MRI and look at the other side. And they looked at the left breast, they go, Okay, yes, we got to go an MRI biopsy on this. And they did that one as well. And so Um, they're like so then I was diagnosed with multifocal, multi quadrant, bilateral breast cancer. And then after my double mastectomy. They send it off for b pathology and they find um a tangerine size section of more breast cancer in my right breast. Cause you know, they look for it's called clearing the margin. So when they get your tumors. They take the tissue out. And you wanna make you they wanna come back and be like, Okay, we we were able to clear margin. So whatever tissue sample we got, we able to say we got the tumor because there is clear there's clear tissue all around it. Um, and because I did my whole um double mastectomy. They were able to take all the tissue out, but they were like, Okay, we weren't able to get clear margins till past like a Tangerine size section of more. So um and that was and I would never have I I would not have found it until it was m a much later stage if I didn't take the lifetime risk assessment test. Jesus Christ. And then a year after that, a little less than a year after that, I would have my mom do a a mamma ground. My mom just turned um 70. Um I had her this last year. Yeah. I had her do um a mammogram and ultrasound clear, clear, and I did her lifetime risk assessment score. And she scored um in a high risk. And so then we had her do an MRI and she has um she was diagnosed with her two breast cancer. It's a type of breast cancer that can double in size every six weeks. What so when she when she got when we found it. few weeks later she has her double antectomy and it already become multifocal. Ah. 'Cause it was you do it's so it's a it's a really I'm actually working with Senator Mark Kelly. On legisl that will help. um make it a lot easier for women, um, to have this done just because the onus shouldn't be on us to always know about these things. And I can I'll I will you know, this is a one of the biggest missions in my life, besides being, you know, a a mother and and a wife and a daughter. I wanna Um Help as many women as I can with this. It's so simple. But it shouldn't be um on us to know about it. You know, when we go into our doctors. They take our um blood pressure, they ask about like our cholesterol, and they should also say what's your lifetime risk assessment score. And so we're working with or I'm working with m um Senator Kelly on figure out a way to um Get every doctor in our country to make that part of their standard of care. Yeah. All right. Lifetime risk assessment test. Mm-hmm. That is huge. Um Yeah. I better write it down. Well it's there's a specific one, the Tyra Cusick one. I I have it in my link in bio in my Instagram. Okay. It's the Tyra Kusick one. They're all a little bit different for some reason, but we can put it in the show notes. Well now you're working on your friends and neighbors with Mr. John Ham, and I bet it's nice to be, you know It must be m night must be nice to be back in it, I would think. Kind of therapeutic to be working and making that great show. I really do love that show. Thanks. I'm so happy you like it. Um and we gotta do this again sometime. Yeah. Oh my gosh, it just settled in. What else we can talk about? Well I uh finding hoses? I hope my friend my friend Kara I'm gonna make her listen to this. She was the one who taught me that. She's really she's act she's an architect. Do you know California Chicken Cafe out here? Of course. She's like the the VP of branding there and she's the one who d redesigned all of the California chicken cafes out here. They're like I'll be able to do a new look. Yeah, they do. They have new font and everything. There's one on the thing. That makes me like the chicken more. It's all about presentation. If a ch sometimes there's a really good chicken with bad font. And I'm like, Mm-hmm. You're a big font guy. I'm very big on a font. What I learned is they did better during Covid than a lot of places 'cause everybody's looking for like just a healthy Easy alternative. So much so. That they don't do eating anymore. Yeah. I sure do. She knows her uh fast foods and your food outlets, right? Isn't that fair to say? It's fair to say. It's not really fat it's not like Carls Junior King. And you're just lifting off a whole other Okay. It's it's it it is. It's like that. It's good. And I like you don't have to walk in. They have like a window now and you just go order and out by us? There's So I if I c if if I go to one, it's the one on Melrose. Can I just say the best one of all is Pollo Loco because La pollo loco. Please. Okay. I like La Poya Loca myself. I like to feminize things because women need to be heard and seen. But also I like a chicken that's gone insane. I like a chicken that's eyes are crossed and it's gone insane and and then the chic is telling eat chicken. But the chicken's gone insane and it's this crazy thing where you're like A chicken's gone so insane he's telling people to eat more of my kind. Yeah. Game recognizes game. Exactly. Game recognizes foul. Um, all right, well my best to uh to Kookie John, you know. Mean uh He loves you. Well, I love him. Listen, uh, be well. I'm so glad that you're healthy. I'm Glad that you have these two beautiful children. Um And that you have this great family. I'm just pretty happy for you. Oh, thank you so much. I mean, it really means a lot. I mean, um Just so happy to be here with you guys. I mean, we love your show. Everybody loves your show. And um. It's the law. But it's been so nice. I don't want to leave now. Well you can stay, which is a nice thing. What happens next? What do you guys do next? C Cy Yeah, that's what I call it. Do you guys interview somebody else after this? Or do you have one a day? We tend to record more stuff but Yeah, I don't know if we're doing more. Next we I'm next week we're doing we do segments separately and all that. I think that's it for today. You know? Sometimes we just do local news and weather. How many episodes do we do a year? Well, this is interesting. You're gonna be the four hundredth episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which means you get a pair of four hundred. No, it doesn't somebody. No, please. It's like but you get a pair of socks. That's exciting. Okay. Yeah, you need yeah, yeah, just your Clothing and here we go. Olivia, thank you very much for being Oh hi. Start again. Olivia, I just want to tell you that it was lovely having you. here on Cunningham Brian Needs a Friend. I do consider you a friend, and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. And now I say both to you and to people all around America and in the Heartland listening, thank you and good night. Waiting in one of those long lines. And I kept saying, Hey, let me throw. I'm Conan O'Brien. And they said, Shut up. The wait in line. I went, Oh okay. And so sad. It's a really good story. But I was hungry. I didn't have a snack with me. You gotta keep it and I didn't want to lose my place online and go try and find something. I know. That's when you gotta have Nutragrain on you. You gotta always have a snack in your bag and when it's a Nutragrain, it's perfect. It's perfect because it's the right size, it's handy, it's also nutritious. Yes. Okay. You can go anywhere. It's made with 10 grams of whole grains, ten vitamins and minerals. These guys are obsessed with tens. And no high fructose corn syrup. Neutra grain nourishes and it hits the spot with delicious flavors. They got strawberry, apple cinnamon, blueberry flavors. I just had a blueberry back in the snack area. Yeah. With a little bit of a glass of milk. You earned it. Nice nice job. Uh nice job. Find nutritious and always delicious Nutry Green bars at your favorite store or online retailer today. And look for new Nutra Green Crunch bars in stores near you. Oh I'll get that crunchy, I will. The other day I did a quick stop by at my friend Rodman's house. Oh yeah. And I've known Rodman for years. I'm like to stop by his house and I'll be like, Hey, Rodman. He's like, Hey, Cona, and then I I leave immediately. Oh. I go out the window. Oh, okay. This time. It's because it's a stop by I thought, hey, it's the perfect time to bring a pack of Miller Light. Yeah. And when things go from low key to legendary, which they always do with Rodman, everyone knows it's Miller time. Yeah. For fifty years, beer lovers have trusted Miller Light for a taste they can depend on. It's just a really nice time. And you know what? It's got ninety six calories and three point two carbs per twelve ounces. So I don't feel weighed down. I can keep this lean mean physique I got going on. Yeah. I mean you guys like to be legendary, but you also want to watch your bodies. We're calorie counters. Cheers to Legendary Moments with Miller Light. Great taste, ninety six calories. Go to Millerlight.com slash Conan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Mirror Light. Anywhere they sell beer. Hey, it's Miller time. Cellate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per twelve ounces. Yeah. All right, now it is time for a segment we call Review the Reviewers, where we read and respond to real five star reviews. Are you reading a bedtime story to a child? I'm trying to be uh professional. Okay, all right. Um I'm getting sleepy. Can I have cocoa? What do you want me to do? Go to Apple Podcasts and rate us five stars and you might be featured on a future episode. Today's review comes from Kira Eight Kira who says segment idea. And we're doing a segment. Conan and team, I'm a huge fan, love listening to your podcast, and it is one of the things that got me through chemo. So thank you for that. Wow, let's talk. Good for her. You guys should do a segment where you guys discuss new words that kids use these days. Oh wow. That's a good one.