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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Connected. It is brought to you by the fine folks over at Century and Steam Clock. It is in fact episode six hundred and five. My name is Man of the People, Mike Hurley, and I have the pleasure of introducing to you the keynote chairman for now, Federico Vetici. Hi Federico. Oh hello, man of the people. I will say I will say keynote chairman for for theeseeable future. We're doing the Rickies next week. Yeah. Oh. Not ready for that. Not ready for that. Yeah. We are also joined by the illustrious annual chairman, Stephen Hackett. Hello, Stephen. Hello, boys. Hello. Hello. How are you, sir? I'm I'm good. I will say, being annual chairman, the stress of an individual keynote just uh washes away when you're keynote chairman don't you feel stressed because you could start losing points for the the year though? I mean there is that but I mean like I'm more meaning this since like my title's safe through June. Right it's actually safe through December. Now could I consolidate power ? Potentially. Can I do a quick tiny topic zero point zero point zero before follow-up? Sure. Which is a quick recap of the 2026 Rikkies and see how we're doing. Yeah. I don't think we've ever done this. We'll just do that. We won't do the flexies, just the Rickies. All right. So Steven said Tim Cook's job title changes in twenty twenty six. Yeah. He got that. The iPhone seventeen E ships in twenty twenty six. He got that too. Yeah. So that's two points so far. Now we've got the risky pick. Apple announces a a Mac of touchscreen. It is an update to an existing notebook. Mac OS doesn't radically change to accommodate touch. The product comes with the Apple polishing cloth in the box. Hmm. I don't know, man. We'll see if they announce it this year or not. The problem for you is that back might slip now. We'll see. I did I did not foresee the ramp shortages. No, you did not. Uh so I got uh Apple ships a folding iPhone. Jury's still out. Feel feel good about it. A Google LLM is powering some Siri features by default. I got that one. Yeah. Um and by the end of the year, Apple will not have shipped equivalent features for all of the AI features shown off at WWDC WWDC twenty four. Craig Federigi will talk at least once more about there being two architectures. Apple will once again promise that the missing features will be shipping by the end of the next year. Actions across apps is one of the features that has not been shipped. I still think I'm gonna get one of those three. Actions across apps. I don't ship in this either. Okay. You don't think they intent to ship it? I don't think they intent to ship it, no. No., I do not I do not. Um Federico was Apple updates the MacBook A with M five. Got that. Yeah. Apple ships some of the AI features previously seen at W W C twenty four. I think you're gonna get that. Wllhat we''ll see. Yeah. The MacBook Pro is refreshed of a new chip. You got that. Because you you add an extra bonus pick. Yeah. And then Apple ships a foldable iPhone that is called the iPhone Duo. Yeah. Runs both iOS and iPad OS apps and seamlessly switches between them. Mm-hmm. And has at least one feature that operates both the outer and inner screen at the same time. Oh yeah. Nice. Okay. I think that last one will be some kind of camera thing. Gotta be. For sure. It's gotta be. But yeah. The iOS and iPad OS apps at the same time, I feel less confident about that for you as time goes on. But there you go. So that's where we are so far. Okay. All right. That's pretty good. Now you can now do you want to do some follow-up, Steven? I do I do. That was that was very exciting to be to be honest with you to go down the past and future road, really. If you think about that way. Follow up. We have some more uh triple J sightings in the wild. Stephen, this post was deleted. I think, well, Elijah, I don't know what happened to your post, but I'm pretty sure it was like an armory or like some sort of weapon place. Not great. Right. Yeah. Um That's probably against the terms of Mastodon. Um talking about Google IO, I was searching for a phrase that I could not land on, and the phrase was shipping the org chart. Yep. The idea that you can see right through to a company's bones by what they announce. And Google is very guilty of that. Yep. And then there's not a lot of follow-up this week. Lastly, I just put this in here because I find it genuinely hilarious. And I like the new Apple Creator Studio icons, unlike most people. Apple has a new support document spotted by Mac rumors. Identify Apple Creator Studio apps on your Mac. Oh, this is terrible. It's a table of the new icons on the left and the old icons on the right . Oh my god. Uh it yeah, I like the new ones, but the old ones are better. Um but it just goes to we we spoke about this, y'all spoke about an upgrade a good bit, just like how messy this was, mostly due to limitations in the Mac App Store, it seems like this document is incredible . Uh what's worse? These icons or the Ferrari Luce? Uh the icons, right? It's gotta be the icons. I think the icons. Yeah. We spoke about the f if you want our thoughts on Ferrari Luce, you gotta pay up. Uh go to get connectedpro.co. We spoke about it. Look, we're trying to buy one for the show. Yeah, so we g everyone's gotta sign up and we can buy one for for to review. Couldn't wouldn't that be incredible? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I still love that McDonald's icon so much. Yeah. I think it's MacDon it stops, right? It's like it's not the full thing. McDonald. It's like McDonald's like two thirds of McDonald's. McDonough. McDonough. McDonough. I mean I I opened like pages or numbers the other day and it was like, hey, there's a new one. What I was like, go away. Leave me alone. Don't maybe do this. I'm I I haven't signed up for the creator studio yet just because I mean this is the thing I said at the time. There just feels like there's so much that I would have to deal with and I just can't be bothered to deal with it. Um they they did not make this as easy as it could have been, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, I wonder if they did one of these for the iWork. If there's a document for the iWork app. Probably somewhere. If not, there should be because it's the same problem. Actually, I think it may be a little bit worse uh for the iWork apps because yeah uh they get like version like fourteen point five or whatever it is in the app store . Not great. Uh I have a tiny complaint about a visit to the Apple store, which I don't even really think is worth bringing up. I d I just wanted to mention it anyway because when I was in the Apple store, I was like, this feels like something to talk about on the show. So Adina and I and and Sophia were in uh London yesterday. Uh dealing was an appointment and we decided to stop by the Regent Street store as Adina was interested in replacing her Apple Watch Series eight . Um it's great store. I've been there. Reading the store is beautiful. It's really nice. It's really good looking. It's not as good looking as that one in where was it? Is it Milan? Memphis. Nope, not the Memphis one. The one that you went to and took pictures in Federico. Oh, in Rome. In Rome. Uh Palazzo Marignoli, yes. Is an all time uh you do a lot of good work at Mac Stories. That is like an all time for me. Oh, thank you. That was so fun to put together. Yeah, because it was like cool to have the access. Um historical location used to be this coffee shop, this l uh coffee shop for for poet I don't remember the details, but like it was really popular spot for Italian culture at the time. And then it became a fast food um place that was absolutely trashed by the by the corporation. Important for the culture. The fast food place. It's important for the culture. Sure. So uh Adina's Apple Watch series eight, the battery obviously isn't as great as it could be anymore. Uh and she's not very good at charging it. So that's like a combo. The battery's bad and she's not good at charging it, it. It's a disaster. But also in the last few days, her Apple Watch just keeps locking when she's wearing it. Ooh . So it's one of these things where we tried software update. I've tried a bunch of settings, turning some things on and off, like wistr detection. None of them works. It just keeps locking. Um and I even put it on my wrist and it was doing the same. Like it's not that like maybe she doesn't have a heartbeat or anything anymore. Like it's you know, we can't we can't not sure what's going on, but I was like, hey, maybe it's time to get you a new one anyway. Like this is multiple years old at this point. Like, we can take a look at that. So we were like, oh. And also, she had previously liked the rose colour, like the rose gold colour aluminium, and then they didn't series eight so she got silver so she was excited to see that that was back so I was like great let's get you an Apple Watch so we're in the city so I was like let's just pop in and do it. So first was it was hard to find the Apple Wat ches in general. Um like there I remember they used to have these tables that would have like glass on them and you could see in and they just don't have that anymore. They're kind of set out, at least in the registry store, a little bit more like iPhones where they're just kind of like out and on the stands. Um part of the problem was so there were so many MacBook Neos everywhere. First time I've seen a MacBook Neo in person, didn't go near it. But but I saw it, but I was like, I'm not going to touch you. Uh I and just left it over there. This is for reasons of not wanting to buy a downstairs computer. So we went and found the models, which were all so poorly labeled, I had to go into settings to confirm which was which. Like there was no labeling to say like this is the you know the big one, this is the little one and the S E, like it was just hard to discern which w Apple Watch was which, but like whatever. Maybe they do that on purpose, I don't know but we couldn't find it. I ended up finding the one that would be hers and we were looking at it. We then kind of like poked around on the iPad to choose the colors and see what we wanted. And there was no Apple store stuff at the table at all. At the two Apple Watch tables. There was nobody. There were customers but there were no staff. But as is typical kind of in an Apple store, you can see kind of people everywhere. They're all like in matching shirts or whatever. And there were a couple of uh employees right over at the end of the store. They were just standing there. So Dina was like, I'm just gonna go over and talk to them. So she went over there to talk to them and then I was going with the baby. We took a sit down sit down. In the Regent Street Apple store still have the chairs with the trees? You know, the trees, the chairs . The grove, I think, is what you're looking for. No, the tree chairs. So I sat down on a tree chair. Um, and then Edina came back and said they could get someone to help, but it would take at least 15 minutes for someone to come. Jeez. And from where I was standing, I could see six employees. They're probably within 10 feet of me. None of them appeared to be working with any customers and three of them were just talking to each other. Now, I absolutely believe that they were all busy with things or were assigned to jobs in certain areas that were not dealing with the Apple Watch, right? And it was like maybe they there were two people dealing with the Apple Watches and they were all both in the store room, right? Trying to find a bunch of things for some customers or whatever. But it's isn't about the Regent Street store or the employees in the Regent Street store. This is just a criticism which has been levied so many times about the way that Apple chooses to lay out their stores and how they staff them. Because you end up in these situations as a customer where you're just kind of stuck not knowing what you're supposed to do. Like where if they just had the ability for me to go to a checkout and say, I would like this Apple Watch. And then they say , okay, someone will go get that for you. Right. Like that's kind of all I really want to do. And I know that some stores are starting to bring things like this back, right? Where you can actually go to an a checkout area. And so we just left. Like it's like it's like d you know, it's like oh at least fifteen minutes, we're just waiting and maybe someone will come. And then it's gonna take a many m a much longer period of time for them to go through the whole thing and then go get the what it's just like you know this isn't and I I mean like it's not on these people, right? 'Cause it's just like they're doing whatever they're doing. Like I know how these stores are kind of arranged. Like people are assigned to do certain roles. But it's like it would just be so easy if I just had a central place to go and ask for a product rather than like hoping to catch the eye of someone who's floating around the store, you know? So it was just a frustrating experience. And and it reminded me kind of like of all the frustrating experiences I've ever had in the Apple store is always some flavor of this. Like the only time that the Apple store really works is iPhone Day because they are regimented, right? Like they're getting you in and out, you're in a line, you know where you're going, everyone's expecting you, they're checking your reservations, and you're just doing the whole thing. Like, and also just in general, reserve reserving products in advance of picking them up. Like, I don't know why we didn't do that. Like we it wanted to take a look, but like that was the only that's I find the only real way to get what you want. You go in and say, I've got this reservation, someone scares you, and then you just sit but on the chair tree, the tree chair, and wait for them to bring you a product. No, I just found it really frustrating. It's like they set all this stuff out for work in business and then they just can't handle it. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's rough. I popped into mine recently to buy a phone for somebody and I knew what I wanted. I just didn't I was like it's near me. I can just drive over and go get it and it's like, hey, I need a phone. Okay, go stand over here. And like I knew what I needed, but I still like go through the sort of the the song and dance of it. The the watches, at least in my store, are right up front and they're just out on tables. Yeah. And you're right. Unlike everything else, like the iPhones are all divided. It's like, oh, this is the iPhone Air, and these are the colors it's in. And this is the 17, and this is the colors it's in, right? The watches are just like a in some sort of like area and you kind of don't know what's what. I think the idea is that someone's gonna like help you and you're gonna try it on. But waiting fifteen minutes is not is not waiting fifteen minutes for hopefully someone to come help is like we're not gonna sit and do that. Like you know what solves that all day with the baby. Waiting in line. Because people understand that. Yes. Yeah. I mean it just reminded me, it's like this the reason that we have this thing where you could just buy a thing by scanning it in the Apple Store app is but is to try and solve this issue, right? Mm-hmm. Like Apple knows that the way that they set up their stores means that sometimes you're just kind of like hanging around hoping to buy something from like a random person. So like, why don't we just let you buy things and walk out the store? Uh but obviously you can't do that to the bigger products. Yeah. And anytime I've I've done it like with iPhone cases and stuff and it feels like stealing every time. Every time. Every time. I don't know where we are on the show anymore because you keep just like lobbying topics into it as we go. Yeah, yeah. Well, we could take a break and then then we'll come back to Tiny Topic 1. To be fair, Tiny Topic 0.0, which was the Chinese complaint about the Apple store, was already in there. Hmm. This episode of Connected is brought to you by Sentry. 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You're be you'd be blogging in up a storm. You snuck an entire blog post into your now page. Yes. I did. Which to me feels like something that you would talk about, which was you rearchitectured your entire website. I feel like that's like a thing that you would you would usually, you know back to blog in. Here's my blog post and that kind of thing. Uh yeah. I thought about that. Um I thought on the now page like it it draws less attention to it, but now we're talking about it on the show. So I guess that didn't work. No It's this is part of the reason we're doing it, is because it felt like you were trying to bury this news and I won't allow it. So here we are. What did you what did you do to your website? Did you break it? Uh many in many ways. I do have a a fix for what we see in Notion which is a broken preview image. That's that's fine . Uh yeah, so I mean you go read the post, but I have joined the cool kids in running my site on a static site generator , which is just wild after 512 is getting ready to be 18 years old for like sixteen and a half of those years. It's been on it's been on WordPress . And it's uh I I got and uh Federica, I know you and I have talked about this. Like WordPress is great, but when you get big enough, things can get weird and complicated. So I I am just I'm knocking on the door of twelve thousand posts over those eighteen years. Oh, let me see. Yeah, I bet you're more. Right, yeah. And your side's a year younger than mine, I think, or two thousand and nine? Yeah, so one year younger. But you have a whole team. Like m I mean, you know, John's in there just like power blocking every day. Yeah. I'm knocking on the door of like fifty. You know, any day now I g'onnam catch up to you too and trouble. Are you still doing the every Friday thing? Uh in theory, I haven't been. The reason I've not been blogging is because I've been too busy with Kickstarter stuff. Which that's a story for another time. Wow, you dropped that right in. Did I even say a URL? No, I just said that. I mean if people want to go to design.fm and learn more about what you're doing, that's fine. Yeah. They can do that. But I didn't say it. But yes, I I I haven't had the time. I haven't I haven't had the time. Yeah. Uh so the problem I had was that my traffic is extremely unpredictable. It's it's a gets a pretty good amount of traffic every day, but my project pages, including the macOS screenshot library, but especially the 6K macOS wallpaper page, those pages do a lot of traffic. The wallpaper pages wild traffic, just every day. You can just count on it. But then like eight times a year, people rediscover it on Hacker news or Reddit or uh most recently it was on like some sort of like Chinese Apple user form and I can't the I I don't have it in front of me, but like the traffic was just unbelievable in terms of how many people came. And that made to what page? Sorry? What page? The six K, the Mac OS wallpaper gallery. Right, wallpapers. Okay. Yeah. Uh and that makes it ex really expensive to host because you have to account for those days. And I just was kind of at a point where it's like, that's a lot of money for a project that literally makes no money unless you buy a t-shirt. Like it doesn't really make sense. Um, and so I moved to Hugo, which is a static site generator. I looked at several, I talked to a bunch of people who were in this world. Uh I chose Hugo because of the size of the site. Um 11T and some others would take a really long time to build a site this big. And Hugo is written in Go, and it just doesn't care about your battery life or your fans in your computer. It's like I'm gonna build this site as fast as I can. And uh and what you get as the visitor is just HTML pages, no database calls, no WordPress shenanigans, it's just static files, which means it's also really fast for the visitors, which is which is awesome because parts of it were quite slow on WordPress. I just learned that eleven T was a site generator, uh this entire time I thought it was something about accessibility. That's a different thing. Yeah. I mix them up in my brain. Apparently so and I just thought that when people were talking about eleven tea they were talking about an accessibility tool.. Ye Yeahah . It's a static site generator. I don't really understand static site generators from being completely awesome awesome, honest. I don't get a lot of things, Mike. Three second version is you know WordPress, Neon, our CMS at relay. Like those are web applications that have database calls. So all the data lives in a database and the page calls that information when it gets built. Or it's cached, it doesn't do it that often. But uh what a static site generator is, like all you get when you hit a page on 512 or any other site that is built this way now is just a web page. How it does that is that it builds the site and in my case locally on my Mac and then I push changes up to Cloudflare, which is where I'm hosting it now. And it it just it makes the web part of it much simpler. Like if you were to poke around the directory of the site now, it's just HTML files and some JavaScript and some CSS. Like it's as simple as it can be and it builds all that locally and then I just push the changes up. But why wouldn't you always do that? Because there are so like there's downsides to this. Like I no longer have a CMS. Like I sort of shoehorned my site into IA writer to edit posts, um, which is fine. Like I like IA writer and it actually handles this really well. But I don't have a web interface to edit this unless I go to the private GitHub repo and like edit a markdown file and then rebuild the site. So it you are jumping through more hoops to do this. And if I were on a team, like say that Mac Stories wanted to do this, y'all would have to work through how to do that with multiple people. You'd be check ing things in out of GitHub. And I know y'all do some of that, or at least you have in the past with your like editing workflows, but as a single person just working on the site, you know, I I post guest posts sometimes, but those people were not in WordPress, right? They were just like send me their thing and I would publish it. Uh it's fine. And so yeah, the the the downside is like the ease of use. The upside is the speed, the simplicity and uh I'm gonna be paying a fraction of a fraction of what I was for my hosting, which is was the sort of the first thing that kicked this off, was like and I switched hosts, WordPress hosts, like several times over the years, um , trying to find something that was a balance of cost and performance. And every time I did that, it just ended up being expensive and kind of overly complicated for my needs. Okay . But yes, I broke lots of things. I am sorry. Um, some of it was foreseen, some of it was not foreseen. Um but you if see anything weird, let me know. Drop me a note and I'll get it fixed. Do you have to use you have to use different apps now? Yeah, I had to say goodbye to Mars Edit, which is really sad. I love Mars Edit. I'm sorry, Daniel. Um so I'm writing in I could write in anything that it that knows Markdown. The reason I chose IA writer is because I like the way that it you can like set a folder on your Mac to be like your library. And so I have my post folder as the library and IA writer. Create a new document, um, put the front matter in, which is like all the metadata at the top of the document, write. I save it. It's all all this is like in my local documents folder. This is not even on Dropbox. It's just on my in my local documents folder on my Mac . If I want to preview the site locally, I can build it in terminal. And that's how I was doing all the development work was like I just have a local web server running and I can break things and like my local site now is really broken because I was trying to fix something with footnotes. Um I have a fix for now. I'm gonna get that out this afternoon. But I could build it locally, check it out, make sure it works, and then I push any changes to GitHub, and then Cloudflare watches the GitHub repo and builds the site, like takes the site live on Cloudflare automatically. So as soon as I hit push in into the repo, then after a couple of minutes, the change is reflected online. So that part's all automated, which is really nice. Um, Hugo is really well supported by these services. It's it seems to be very popular. My research was it was basically all positive. And so um basically as soon as I write something, save it, and upload it to GitHub, then the rest of it is automatic. If you have to fix a typo, do you have to rebuild your entire website? Uh yes. Well, so if I want I don't have to rebuild it I don't have to rebuild it locally. Like a typo would just update that one page. So I could update the page. Um Cloudflare will like take that page and rebuild that page. That still takes a a minute or so. Um, but I have to rebuild the whole site, like if I make a site-wide CSS change. Um if it if that calls like if I have to like change a class somewhere. Um it's really like old school web development. Like it you know, like the footer is like its own file that it pulls in, but if I wanted to change something like, oh I uh f I need to change like the the the tag s that form the sidebar. And that could be universal, but it's fast because it's all just text. Um the my M4 Mac SmacBook Pro will build the site from zero, like a cold build with in like maybe 25 seconds. If I'm just doing changes, it's a split second. So Okay. Does it get do that get longer over time? But obviously it's never gonna be a super long time. It shouldn't I mean, like in the span of years, like you know, in another eighteen years it will take twice as long . But I don't th but also my computer will be much faster in ten years probably. So Well . Okay. I mean, unless the RAM shortage means there's no new computers anymore. Yeah, but then you just won't be blogging anymore either. So that's true. We're currently using history . Because no one can buy computers. There are no computers. So we we're all using obsolete products. So yes. So uh thank you to people who helped some people in um some people in Discord were very helpful. Our friend Rob was very helpful and helping me helping steer me kind of towards what gener ator. Um this feels like something Rob would like. I was the first he was like the first person I texted. I was like, hey, like I I want to do this. And we actually had a conversation about 110, and like this the site size is really the problem, is that it's so big. And so Hugo is really built for that. Um, I will tell you, Go is a w ild language. Like I've had to do a little bit in Go . And like I know Mark talked about this years ago because the overcast crawlers are written in Go. It's bananas town in there. Like I never want to go in there again. Like I I did like the couple things I needed to do. I was like, I was gonna back out of this room very slowly. Surely the LLMs know it though, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Claude did some of this work for me. Uh it was it was a helpful partner . Helped by Rob and Claude. That's right. Yeah. But um you know, now I'm just doing like we uh again, Federico knows this. We both have lived this. Like you end up with Cruft and WordPress installs. Yep. And you're like, oh, for like five years I use this like random type of thing for these posts, and then I quit using it. Well, like that's fine because WordPress knows about both, but when you change CMSs or you move to no CMS, it's like, well, I have to contend with all that now. And so it's uh it's been a I'm gonna put in a air quotes, a fun trip down memory lane of like past decisions I made. I tell you, I would have done some things differently in the beginning that I'm still paying for in some ways. But it's also been fun to like really work on the site. Like I've really gotten to refresh, especially my CSS skill s, but do some JavaScript stuff. Um it's kind of been fun to be like a web developer a little bit. This this had the the ranking of a classic Stephen project to me though where you were like , you know , I'm thinking I might change something around with the website. And then like three days later, you're like, it's live now. It's like, wow, okay. Like that is a classic Steven. I spent basically all day Saturday just Sometimes you're like, Yeah, I'm thinking about a new car. It's like, hey, look at this thing. Driving it off the lot like three days later. So usually what happens there is like I've made my decision and then I'm not thinking about the decision, I'm thinking about like executing the decision. Yes. Yes. So uh good news guys. Johnny I've designed my next car. Oh sick. JK. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. You two are both wearing the device of my dreams, except it's made by the wrong company , which is the Fitbit Air. So you both bought one. Yeah. Um, do you have any first impressions that you'd like to share of me? So this is essentially a fitness tracker with no screen. It just looks like what if an Apple Watch band, but all the way round. Yeah, I love it. Um , I was talking about this with Brandon uh on MPC. He actually also got one. Um, I love it so much, it's so like you don't think about it and because it doesn't have a screen, uh I noticed that the the LED sensor is always on, like it's always polling, uh because it doesn't have the concern of the display and using apps and all the things that an Apple Watch can do. Connectivity. Like I mean, it's only syncing to via Bluetooth to the app, but it doesn't have to do anything else. And because of that, I find so I've been using this for the past two or three days just to wearing both my Apple Watch and the Fitbit on the same wrist. Yep same um I had to I had to do the uh so my right wrist I cannot use these devices because it I got a tattoo. Uh the left wrist is the only one that is free. Uh no joke, I kept it free because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to use wearable devices. You need to make like just like the perfect ring of an Apple Watch sensor and like tattoo all around it. Yeah. Just like this is it. That's our that's actually a pretty good idea. And I noticed that uh that the data that I get out of the Fitbit Air is seems to be seems to be more accurate than the Apple Watch. Um, I love that it's saving a lot of data. It's saving a lot of data points that it's capturing throughout the day. And something very nice that I think Google has done. Uh, because I mean the device itself, there's nothing to it. Uh I got I got the equivalent of like what is it? Like a nylon band. Yeah. Uh the one size you can just uh adjust it to your preferred uh to your preferred comfort size. Um there's nothing to it once you set it up. Um but something that Google has done is as part of the rebrand from Fitbit to Google Health for the app on the iPhone, which I don't hate. I think it's actually really nicely designed and a lot more in tuitive, if you ask me, uh, than Apple Health. If you just want to see how how well or badly you slept, that's a UI and a navigation with fewer taps than the health app from Apple that makes sense to me. Um, but the the cool thing is Google launched day one a Google Health API. So you uh because everything is saved and encrypted in your Google account, there's an API. Uh and you know me, I obviously uh immediately made a command line interface for it. So that uh so that uh why ? Because now every morning I can just open codecs uh in chat GPT on my phone and I can ask give me a breakdown of how well I slept last night. Yeah but doesn't doesn't the open the app doesn't it have a chatbot in it ? Uh does it? I uh I haven't even used it. Oh, I think if there's a subscription to pay for yeah, I 'm not I'm not paying that. I can just open codecs and it gives me like in a in a in about a minute, it runs through all the data points. Okay. That makes more sense to me. Because then you don't need the ultra plan or whatever and you can do the same kind of thing. And it and it cross references, right? Uh so when did the user go to bed? Uh what's the sleep data for that uh time threshold like? Cross-references that time threshold with heart rate data, and about a minute later it gives me a natural language response, um uh being like, Yeah, this is how well you slept. Uh uh, you know, deep sleep was uh more than the day before, but you were awake a couple more minutes. And I think it's really useful to have this kind of simple interaction in plain language that doesn't require uh looking at charts and graphs and and a bunch of different m s things on a screen. Yeah. I want to make a recommendation at this point for uh because you know I've spoken a lot about athletic. I think I've actually spoken about this on the show already, but I'm just gonna say it again. Uh the makers of at of athletic make an app called Pace now, which is basically this kind of thing. It's less about athletic fitness and gen but general fitness and you open the app and it's like it just tells you this stuff in in in English, you know, rather than like here's the score and here's da da da . It's like this is going on, this is going on, you slept well. So like, yeah, if you have an Apple Watch and you want something that's a little bit closer to this, I recommend this app. I agree with all the hardware stuff, and I really would love an Apple version of this. Uh it weighs nothing. I have the same band you do, Federico. Weighs nothing. You don't think about it. The battery life is like even with the Apple Watch Ultra is like so far beyond because it's just doing so much less. And I would love a world where I could wear a traditional watch when I want to, but still have fitness data. Um, I don't like the application. I ran into I had an old Fitbit account and that's gone and like the migration to Google Health is super bad. Um I had I like had several restarts where it kept trying to log in as a different Google account that my phone knows about. And it's like, no, stop. Like I,'ve told you what my email address is. Quit trying to use the other one. Um , finally got that done. And I just I just don't like the app itself. Uh most of its personal taste and some of the the the design choices. I think it's a bit busy. Um I did not uh at this point have not paid for the AI coach thing. In fact last time I looked it wasn't even available to me. Um I don't know if it's like rolling out or or what the deal is. Um that's that's fine by me at this point. Uh but my my plan is to do like a sort of a long-term review . Um I I I don't know how I feel about like which one's more accurate in terms of steps and things like that, but really most I mean, no one is gonna wear two of these things, hardly at all . And so it's more about like knowing the one that you have, kind of, you know, uh how it works for you. And um right now I think it's also important to note for m for iPhone users in particular, obviously, uh, it only has one way sync with Apple Health. It can read information from Apple Health and you can in the UI, it sure looks like it should write to Apple Health, but it doesn't. Um that's forthcoming, hopefully. I've I've read different things about what Google has said there. For me, I would want that. Um , but it's not there right now. So like right now I'm using an actually completely disconnected from Apple Health. Like, just you track everything in your own little world, and I'll do the stuff in the Apple World with my watch, and like we'll kind of see how it goes. But it's it's remarkably refreshing to have a device. It's like it's 99 bucks, I think. Um really simple. It's not trying to get me to engage with it, right? That it's not trying to to bump into my everyday life the way the Apple Watch does. And and like is it's Fitbit going back to its roots, right? Like back in the day, like I had early Fitbits when it was literally like just a little puck and you put it in a rubber band or you put it into like a clip that you could wear on your clothing somewhere. And it was literally just a pedometer. Right. And then eventually they added stuff. And then for years, all Fitbits were smartwchesat, effectively, to to some degree, right? And there's room, clearly, for something else. And it's not the whoop, right? That the whoop's way more expensive. It does more. It whoop is much more about like the the d what it does with the data than the data collection itself, I feel like. And this is simpler than that. And I think for a lot of people, simpler is better in some of these regards and if you're don't have an Apple Watch or you're not interested in an Apple Watch and you but you still want something on your body to track more than what your phone can in your pocket, I think this is a reasonable choice, assuming that you're okay with that data basically being in Google Health and not synced back to Apple Health at least at this point . I'm hoping that this product is successful enough or like appreciate it enough that maybe it maybe it pushes Apple to make it something like this. And I could imagine maybe in a world if they're gonna start making a bunch of weird wearables for AI, like maybe they could do this too. Like there could be something in this world as well. Like I really hope so. 'Cause I I want something that gives me all of the stuff the Apple Watch gives me, right? 'Cause I do like the the rings and all that kind of stuff , but I I would like to be able to to wear regular watches and still get all that information. Yeah. Um, which is why this does seem interesting to me. And I think maybe you know, maybe once it gets to the point Google said it will, once it gets to the point where it's it's reading and writing to Apple Health, um that could that could be a bit more interesting for me even then. Uh we'll see. But it does look cool. I'll say that. And like it actually as well, like wearing both of them doesn't look bad, which is the thing, you know, if you wear an Apple Watch and one of these, like it just kind of looks like you've got some kind of you've made a fashion choice. You know . It's very low key, like yeah in terms of both size, weight and the look. So you above have what one do you have? Because there's like three different ones, isn't there? Like like um band s ? Yes I don't know. I've got the rubbery one. Okay . Whatever it's called. Well, because they have the performance one, the active one , and the elevated. Let's see . I don't have this Seth Curry one . Which is very funny to me. Um He's been wearing one of these for months. Yeah. Uh publicly. Active is the one I have. The active one. So the rubbery one. The one that's more like an Apple Watch band. That's the one you have too, Federico . The rubbery one. No., No no, I have the the the nylon one the performance one. Yeah. Yeah, the one that looks like a trail loop. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's Velcro. Yeah . Yeah. Uh ninety nine bucks a man, it's it's it's pretty compelling. Pretty good. It's pretty good pretty without a subscription too. So MKBHD made a good video comparing it and the Whoop mostly. And like Whoop is like it's like three hundred bucks a year, which includes the subscription and then once you've got the hardware then you've got to have the subscription going. So it's like g for some reason Google's decided they want to destroy Whoop, I guess. And now and now they're gonna do that. Um yeah, very interest ing. Yeah, and I mean there's always going to be room for something more extreme, right? But not everybody wants that. And I think there's a lot of people, like um ring is is apparently planning for IPO and they have the order ring 5, which is eminently due. There were some leaks about that this week. But their subscription, right? For it's basically like you get the hardware, you pay for the hardware, but then you you also pay for the service. Google's clearly doing that with like the AI health coach, but if you pay 99 bucks, it just does a bunch of stuff out of the box, which is also pretty great. Uh announced the five like today. Oh yeah, it was announced today. It's lighter lighter, thinner, uh looks like looks more like a like a kinda it's still too big. But still chunkier than a normal wedding ring, but it's much better than the current one, which I mean you put it on and you can tell like, oh, that's a smart ring. Have you all tried aura rings in the past? We both Sylvia and I have an aura ring four. Okay. Do you like it? Well big issue with it is that we really like it. But unlike other wearable devices, including the Fitbit Air, it leaks a lot of green light at night from the sensor. And that was really bothering Sylvia. She's a light sleeper, and when everything is dark, you could see these flashes of green light coming coming out of our hand. And uh yeah, that was not great. And there's actually a whole niche of people on the internet obviously trying to come up with solutions, including if you search on Amazon, like silicon covers for the aura ring to prevent light leaking, they don't really work. We have tried so many of them. Sylvia eventually resorted to making her own um uh sort of cover for the ring, but it was so cumbersome to to sort of attach it every single night. And so she basically just stopped using it. And and so did I because it was also bothering Sylvia. And if I'm supposed to wear a fitness tracker, it's supposed to be on all day long. And so I wasn't really seeing the benefit of using a ring just for the daytime. Um and that's a shame because I you know it's not supposed to happen. She tried multiple sizes , but it seems to be a pretty widespread issue, especially if you are very sensitive to you know light when you're sleeping. Yeah. So today, before we started the show, Mark Gurman posted to Bloomberg Here is a first peak at Apple's IS IOS twenty seven kind of Siri overhaul. And it's essentially a selection of screenshots that Bloomberg has made, which I find fascinating. Remember remember when I used to make concepts for the next versions of iOS? Yeah, that that's what Bloomberg is saying. I guess he's saying he's seen this, right? Yeah, right. But you can't that you can't share those, right? Because like that there's it can lead to people getting in trouble. This is closer to what John Prosser did. Hey, I mean that worked out fine. Right? But what I find fascinating about this is they say like Bloomberg made these. Who made these? They're they look good like it's like I if I find it just a fascinating story of like here's a bunch of screenshots that caught that I made of iOS twenty seven. So yeah, really weird I mean it's it's not there is no real information in here that is new. It is essentially just visual representations and a collection of the reporting that Mark has been doing over the last kind of month about what's coming. But there was one detail in here that I was like, oh man, that's going to be annoying. Um, which is for the for the kind of swipe down feature to bring up kind of series slash spotlight combo, you'll do that from the center of the screen. And then if you want notifications center, it'll be swiping from the left. And I just know this is gonna be a nightmare for me. Yeah. No why? You're gonna have three areas. So notifications left, series center, control center right. Some people it's it's it's more I'm talking just the the muscle memory of like I I'm gonna be doing this all wrong all the time. I bet you there's gonna be a control for doing that and everybody is gonna tie that to the action button. That's it. Oh . Yeah. Well I mean you think this will be this won't be the UI that happens when you press the the long long press the power button? Yeah can it be different? I think they're gonna they're gonna find obviously like i i if they do this, everybody's gonna complain, right? So they are I am very confident that this kind of change is the kind of thing that can get tweaked by public beta time in July. Um, but also I would be shocked if they don't have some kind of control or app intent that puts you immediately in typing mode or whatever. Yeah. I j I'm just I'm just re rereading theport here and he says that like you can get Siri by both ways, but it will be a different UI from swiping down than it will be from the long press on the on the hub on the on the um lock button. But yeah, I think that's a really good point, right? That like maybe they'll put even just a shortcut or it will just be part of the action button. You know like that that like very intense three D UI that they made. And that'll just be one of the options will just be like bring up whatever this mode is going to be called. But yeah, interesting stuff. I I am very eager for this new Siri app or whatever it's going to be, this new Siri experience. Especially when he's saying like it's possible you might be able to ch like choose your model, which I would be fascinated if they will let you do that. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting time, it's just a couple of weeks away. But I really just wanted to bring it up for the just the pure, I think, weirdness of Bloomberg making their own screenshots. This episode of Connected is brought to you by Steam Clock. You probably have a lot of opinions about app quality. You know the difference between an app that feels right and one that feels off . Steam Clock Software builds mobile apps for companies that care about taste. They're a design and development studio based in Vancouver, and they've been shipping iOS and Android apps for over 15 years. Their clients are growing tech companies that care about mobile, but don't have the in-house team to build something great . 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These are not three websites . I don't know where I was going. Tell us about your new reminders project. Yes, this is called REM CTL. It means reminders control. I actually think that the CTL thing is gonna be my new little brand for command line interfaces. Um because I I will be releasing more. This is my next command line interface that it's designed for people and AI agents , and it's a reminders CLI for the Apple Reminders app on macOS. Right now it only officially works and supports macOS Tahoe, so sorry, I do not have at the moment a VM or an old Mac running. Oh gosh, what was it? Sequo ia. No. Sequoia. Um, so it's Tahoe only for now, but you may be wondering, what's the big deal, Tichi? There's a bunch of reminders, CLIs out there that you can use with your codecs or cloud code or open claw, whatever. Yes, that is true, but I want it to have the best one out there. Because all of those existing CLIs, including the very own uh reminders CLI made by Peter Steinberger, the creator of OpenClaw , they are they are all limited to what is officially offered to third-party developers who want to integrate with reminders. Which means they're using the event kit framework, which is a sort of a subset of calendar essentially that can write basic reminders data. But I don't know if you notice, but starting with iOS 13, especially so we're talking five, six years ago at this point, reminders has grown a lot and it's got a lot of features that have always been closed off to third-party developers. I'm talking about things like subtasks or image attachments or tags or grocery lists with automatic categorization, templates, uh sections inside lists. So how you can do now sort of a Kanban board inside reminders. Um there's a lot of things that third-party developers, if you want to make a reminders client, you cannot use those features because Apple locked them behind a private framework and a private API. And that was my go al. Like I started working on this a couple of months ago, and I wondered can I make the best possible reminders CLI that is a perfect replica of all the things you can do in remind ers on the Mac, I should be able to do in this CLI with my agent of choice instead of using the the the the reminders app manually and and that's what RAM CTL does. It's uh uh a one-to-one match for uh uh all the reminders functionalities, they're all here. Um sap tasks, sections, uh cast you can you can tell your agent to make a smart list for you with the custom filters that Apple supports. So you can ask in natural language, make me a smart list that shows me all my tasks that are tagged family and that are due within the next week and it'll make a native smart list in reminders for you. Uh you can choose to apply a custom symbol or a custom emoji with the specific color and it'll use the default reminders, symbols, or emoji or col ors. Um every single reminder's functionality is in the in the CLI and in the skill that comes bundled. Um this was possible thanks to Codex, which is my my sort of agent for making these things of choice. And it's largely based on three sort of big ideas. The first one is that the so reminders, again, like shortcuts that we talked about last week, reminders on the Mac keeps all of its data in an SQLite database. And that database is just freely available to you for you to copy, inspect, open in a folder on Mac OS. Um, the C LI only reads from that database, it never edits, modifies, touches the database, because that would be really dangerous and silly. Uh, but it's using that database to read stuff about your reminders like this reminder when is it due? Is it inside of a section of a list? Um is it recurring? Does it have an urgent reminder that the new feature of iOS 26. Um reads from that database. Then it has two modes for actually writing content to reminders. It uses the regular vanilla event kit for basic reminders , like if you just ask it, remind me to take out the trash at 6 p.m., it's just gonna use the regular event kit that everybody uses. Uh but and this was sort of the final breakthrough. Um, Codex reverse engineered the private reminder kit framework that Apple uses for itself, and that I have no idea why there's no reminder kit API for developers. And this was the the the the big breakthrough uh for for me when building this uh it's using reminder kit to uh natively essentially it acts as if it were the reminders app, calling reminder kit. And so that's why if you ask, hey, can you can you create a reminder tagged, I don't know, podcasts, uh and save it in my podcast list uh but inside the connected section and uh give it an urgent reminder for tomorrow at 10 p.m. And it'll do that. And it'll take a couple of seconds to do that. There's uh lots of documentation for people and agents uh and i even was able to add in a native permissions onboarding flow for the first time you install this l i uh it's gonna automatically detect a bunch of things. It's gonna ask you for native uh permissions to control the reminders app. And it's gonna open a really nice fancy permissions window with two icons uh that you need to drag into system settings to give access to the terminal and the Python interpreter installed on your machine because this this thing uses Python and uh it actually auto-opens system settings for you inside the correct section. So all you need to do is drag those icons, uh give your touch ID or password, and that's it. You're good to go. I like it when you just do that. Yeah. And because I know you can do that, it annoys me whenever apps don't do that. Yeah, it's like go to this section of settings like I don't know where that is. Like what is like it's gonna take me like ten minutes to find it because I never know where anything is in settings anymore. Mm-hmm . Yep. Um, so uh I uh this has been uh like honestly really useful for me. Uh I've been using it since I started creating this. I know that John has been using it as like uh with all the things that he does, like John, for example, this week is uh told me that he was very busy like managing a lot of sponsorship related emails. And he told me that he really loved the combination of like using uh I think John uses Cloud. Um, and he was using Claude uh to sort of make sense of his emails using the Spark uh CLI and my reminders CLI. So to create like tasks for those emails from sponsors and making sense of like those dozens and dozens of messages. Um and yeah, uh uh obviously free and open source uh and uh available for everybody to use, uh submit a file, file an issue and I will take a look at it. And uh it's pretty uh agnostic in the sense that you can use it with codecs, with claude, with open claw, but it doesn't matter. Um God forbid I even tested it with Grok and Oh no works. I mean I had to because there's gonna be the people like, oh did you test it with grok? Yes, I did. Did you know it with a new deep fakes in your reminders list? I I did not. Good, good , good. Well I'm no grok might put them in there. At least for now. Uh I even I tested it with perplexity, personal I tested it with everything, uh and it works. So yeah. How how do you expect this to hold up over Ah that's a fun question. Like Mac OS 27 is coming. Yes . Spoiler. Yeah. Woo week. Uh Mac rumors, when you quote this, it's the connected podcast reports. Yes, on on on the relay network. Yes. Exclusive. I mean you'll you'll have months to fix it, I guess, if there are issues. I do. I do. And uh it's not like you're busy at this time of year. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. The the great thing is that I have uh like I said last week, I'm learning a lot in this process of making these tools and releasing them. And something that I learned is that that database exists on Mac OS for a lot of compatibility reasons as well. Okay. Which means that set aside the iCloud syncing part, which of course I don't I cannot touch because that that requires a private entitlement from Apple. Um, that database knows how to handle certain reminders that need to be displayed on an older machine, right? So you you gotta keep the uh some compatibility layer going. But worst case scenario, if Apple decides to completely change the reminders data layer for macOS 27 and iOS 27, I will get to work and I will make it so the CLI knows how to handle a device on 26 versus a device on 27. Right. Um but at this point, given how uh the real thing that would suck for me wouldn't be like changing the data layer because of these things , these agents can just do things. The only obstacle realistically that I foresee is if and when, hopefully never, Apple locks down macOS so that these things are not freely available for you to inspect in folders. So that's the only thing. Um hope it doesn't happen. I wonder if this agent stuff makes it more or less likely that they would do that. I feel like I don't have a good answer. Me neither. It's been on my mind, and it's especially because like I was thinking, what if so I was talking behind the scenes with friend of the show, Steve Chan Smith, about this, like what happens when when these agents can just take something that's on the operating system and make something based on it but that doesn't exist out of the box. And I gu ess my my question would be, what happens if Apple actually embraces this ? And but maybe they don't, but um maybe they just uh intentionally ignore it and just let it be because they know here here's the thing they know that ai developers and tinkerers and enthusiasts choose yeah and prioritize mac os because of this. Right? Yeah. I I I think, I mean, the this is like a dreaded thing to say, but I think at some point they need to create a set off privacy controls? Yeah. To allow like to to help users that maybe don't know what they're doing who are installing some of these tools that they find on the internet. Maybe like if you're not at the very I mean for example this CLI, first of all it requires you to issue some terminal commands. So there's already like a We're not super far away though from like uh well we'll just take care of that part for you. Right. Like you know, like right. You're not you you know, you're not many you I can understand you wouldn't do this, but you could create part of the system to do it, right? Yeah. Yes. So I I figure at some point there might be a benefit to some of these things requiring you as a user to kind of like you know, like Jason's spoken about like developer mode a bunch of times. Yeah. Like there being just some kind of like I know what I'm doing here. I think that there could be something beneficial to having something like that because the k the too many people are getting too clever about using the computer, you know, in a in a way that can be I could be catastrophic for people that don't fully understand what they're doing. And they they saw they saw something on Reddit that everyone was excited about and they just went and installed it. It could be and I mean there's a there's a developer mode on iOS already and I mean it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to to to have a developer mode on Mac OS that basically bypasses a bunch of those security restrictions and and it requires you to restart your Mac twice and put in your password ten times and then it's enabled. That would be fine because it's the kind of thing that you do once and then forget about it. And if you know what you're doing, you know what you're doing. Um so yeah, I I could actually see that scenario where the entirety of the or maybe most of the underpinnings of these apps on macOS, like library slash application support, like that kind of stuff gets hidden. I mean it's already hidden by default, like the library folder, for example, it's already hidden by default. You gotta know how to show it, but it's there in the file system. I could see a scenario in which they sort of uh hide that and lock it down by default, but then if you want to enable developer mode, uh you can. I just don't think they're gonna get rid of that access for good, because otherwise most macOS users would just absolutely revolt and demand that John Turnus already steps down. And I think, you know, they seem to I think they're pretty proud of the fact that there are so many people that are using their their Macs in these ways. I think that they're they seem to be excited about it. Um and so doing things like this would stop that. Exactly. And so it I don't think it would be but at the same time I think that they they need to show a little bit of of responsibility . Yeah. For people. Obviously goes without saying I expect that for most interactions with remind ers, you will get a uh you will get a great experience with the new series backed by Google Gemini . The advantage here is that uh if you want to use something like Codecs and Cloud Code or your OpenClaw, your Hermes agent, whatever, um this allows you to use reminders to its full extent from your OpenAI or anthropic application of choice. It allows you to do things like for example, something really nice that I can do now. Every week I used to have a shortcuts personal automation to create the template in reminders for the next issue of MacStories Weekly, the newsletter for the for the upcoming week. But I had to go into the reminders app, manually delete the previous week's list , take the new one and manually pin it to the top of the sidebar . Now I have a codex automation that does it all for me. It uh automatically deletes the previous temp uh list and creates the new project and automatically makes it a pinned project to the top of the sidebar because that's another sort of private API feature that it supports. Um that's nice. And that's something that you can do with codecs, and I'm sure you can replicate sort of the same with a cloud code routine or whatever they're called. Did you have to like for some of this stuff that's in the private API, did you have to s to ask codecs to find these speech features specifically. Like I want to do this. How is it doing this? Yes. I had to set a goal that's a feature of codecs, which is I think I mentioned it before, it's the open AI version of a loop where you put an agent in a loop on itself and it doesn't stop until it's satisfied with the result. Set it to extra high, disabled fast mode, because I didn't want to burn through my usage and I think it worked for about an hour and uh it came to the conclusion on its own found the objective c file that was um responsible for Reminder Kit and created its own um sort of third-party objective-C bridge for ReminderKit so that when when the CLI talks to reminders and says, I wanna I, don't know, create a template. Uh it's uh reminders doesn't even know. It just says, okay, this is coming from a reminder kit, it's fine, it's signed. I can sync it with iCloud, no worries. Uh but yes, codex . Um I basically codex couldn't do it and I realized, well, let me try the goal command. And I bumped up the the model uh reasoning level and I said, no, you gotta find a way to make it happen. Go for it. And sure enough it did . Does everything need a command line interface? It feels like right now everything needs a CLI. Well that we went it up here because these agents are best when used on a computer that is open like a Mac or to an extent a Windows machine, probably better on Linux actually than Windows. Windows file systems and sandboxing are weird, and that's why open AI uh people are complaining that open AI is shipping all these fancy new codex features for macOS only, because quite a paradox, but it's actually easier. Yeah. It's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that it's the it's the in the historical inherent security of macOS, maybe. Yeah. Right? Which has allowed for these things to occur. I I d I don't know what the I don't know what the reason is, but it's interesting. But 'cause it feels like right now everything's getting a command or you know, maybe it's just because I follow you and John. It feels like everything's getting a command line interface, but I think it's just you two. We've we've seen from a lot of third party developers, maybe that's our influence. I don't know, but uh used to like they are if you think about it this way, they are the new MCP. Like everybody was doing MCP last year. Now everybody's doing CLIs because they are they are actually better for desktop agents to understand and operate without burning a lot of tokens. But they do have the limit of there needs to be a computer on. Yes. Absolutely. Uh there need to be on your computer. Yeah. Uh and and uh that's sort of the idea. Uh yeah. Why using reminders? I really just missed uh being able to use a Siri or the Apple Watch and just to bring up Siri and say, hey, remind me to do this. Yeah, because otherwise , with other task managers I end up forgetting to save tasks and at the very least with Siri I don't. Okay. Yeah. And also because I figured I'm gonna have to switch in the summer anyway. So I might as well do it now and get ready for June. Oh, that's actually an interesting point though, right? Because it's like, well, now you've built these incredible features for yourself, but like how do you test the OSs' if now you're like abstract ing the OS away all the time. Well well that well I can't. You're gonna have to stop doing some of these things in the summer, right? Well uh yeah or I can uh there there's an interesting angle for doing both at the same time and see how it holds up. Right. Like uh like in a in a in a post uh real assuming assuming so uh Apple intelligence world. Uh are you more are does it compare? Are you more incentivized to just use Apple Intelligence or is there still a place if you're a nerd for for desktop agents? Uh I don't know. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, that's an angle. Don't steal it from me, please. Thank you. Oh, you watch. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Codex in the my curly review of agents. Just written by Codex. That's that's what I did. Yeah, uh he's too busy with his T VOS reviews. Really uh you don't have time for that. Yeah. One day there will be a TVOS version worthy of a review and then I'll return. Rough . Oh, I love it. I love it. Okay . Well, they have to actually ship an operating system update. Was it last time? It's like, hey look, it's liquid glass. Like, yeah, but is there though really ? Yeah. I actually don't think you did anything. I can't see anything. It's the the Pam meme, you know, it's like these two pictures are the same. That's that's too few of us now. Well, it's now time to command line us away. Connected space dash dash exit. There's probably more to do than that in there. That was really bad . It was terrible. I'm gonna leave it in, but I don't I don't want to. Yeah . Sorry. If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about, they're in your podcast player. They're also on the web. Relay.fm slash conne cted slash six oh five. Next week it's a big one. We'll be making our picks for WBDC. Uh we have regular picks, we each get a risky pick, we have flexies to make . I've been working. I'm not real happy with what I have so far. I haven't even thought about it yet. No, me neither. I mean, it usually helps me to go through the draft like stuff because then I'm seeing so many picks, you know, like I'm seeing into the matrix and then it helps me kind of formulate something, but like I don't know man. I don't know what I got. I got nothing . We'll find out next week how much we got, I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean I'll have it by next week. But like right now I don't have it. And the week after we'll know how we've done because we'll score them. Yeah. So hopefully. Unless they cancel WWDC. I don't think they're gonna do that. But you don't but you that's the thing is that like we don't know what this is. But can you imagine if they do? You they might have to. You don't know what's happening. Well, whatever happens, be we'll here. Unless you cancel the show. Unless whatever cancels W C cancels all of us. Yes. Oh no. Oh no. If you think you know what that might be, you can leave us a note. Uh there's a feedback form on the website. The link is in the show notes. You can go to connectedfeedback.com. That can be anonymous, it can rhyme, it can be funny. Whatever you want to do, drop us a note. You can also join and get connected pro, which is the longer ad-free version of the show we do each and every week. This week we spoke about a new Ferrari that Johnny Ive was involved with . And boy, it's a car. It's a car . Go listen to that. 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