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What's going on 's been shot There's a female. she had mud and blood all over Franic, saying her husband had been shot Calm down. pretty slow We were concerned for. That's husand's fl me. She was right next to him as he was hit, Yeser Does she say who shot her husband? sa shot her husand. She said it was just a figure turned and ran into the darkness. We don't know if suspect's still out there. It's nerve wracking for sure. A murder in the dead of night. A mystery on a desolate road. G kill your husband She knew something that she wasn't that. Yes, sir. I'm Lester Holt, and this is Date Line Here's Josh Manl It's with Out of the Darkness This Friday night already felt like rain. Now it sounded like trouble. It was ten forty seven PM. The woman calling nine hundred eleven sounded desperate. Okay, calm down. What do you need? Where are you at I think, Ma'am, where are you at? She was on a cell phone somewhere on the outskirts of town. This is Hot Kn on a Tinker. She's pinging on Kenner at twenty five ninety five. She's extremely out of breath. She sounds like she's running. and she's saying crying, She saying she needs a police. she needs a police. Seconds later, the call dropped out Okay, hello. Mam are you there What was she running from? and what had happened on this Texas countountry road? Those questions would be answered quickly. All I could do was just cry because I thought, oh my God, you know, No, this cannot be true. It was the why and the secrets that answer dragged out of the darkness that were so much harder to comprehend When you get a call, what is it usually I mean, just like any other police department theft, criminal is just U Reckless drivers? Not that night, not on september ninth, twenty sixteen. According to the running gasping woman on the phone, someone had been shot. It was happening in Royce City, Texas, thirty one miles from Dallas. someomebody shot, That's a major call, your drilling' running Officer John Bivvens of the Roy City PD rushed to the scene, his dash cam rolling. What's going on? My The woman's name was Chasey Pointer. Bivvens took me to the road where he found her She seemed frantic. She said that her husband had been shot. I gathather her up, put her in back of my car. C. Have sleep. Have sleep. Have sleep. Stay in here. Stay in here. And the shooter could be out here somewhere. Yes. Yes. So I put her into safety of my car and I ran down the road to go find the victim Bivs and a sheriff's deputy whod pulled up at the same time ran a half mile down County rooad twenty five ninety five. That's a long way on foot in the dark. In the dark it is, yes. And you have no idea whether the shooter is behind one of these trees or waiting for you or running away or what? Halfway down the road, an abandoned pickup truck They kept going. We continue running down this road and we can see headlights through the tree line and we make we come around the curve. ourur duty weapons are drawn, giving orders, let me see your hands. headlights are in our eyes so what's inside the vehicle is uncleaar to us until we get closer And onnce we get closer to the vehicle saw nobody around it, suspect wise, just saw a victim inside of the car A man slumped over in the driver's seat He'd been shot in the head It was evident that he was deceased Vivin's partner, Shane Meek was also called to the scene by a dispatcher. And I made a joke to her. And I said, What do you have? A murder? And she said, Yeah, I think so. And I'm like, Oh, I got to go, you know, because it just doesn't happen that often The last murder in these parts was years ago I knew I had to respond pretty rapidly to the scene, not knowing what we had called for backup because the shooter or shooters remained on the loose. Everybody was on point as far as keeping their heads on a swivel because we didn't know who or how many people were out there And while Meeek waited for Roy City's lone detective to arrive He took Chasey to paramedics, who'd responded to the scene. That's all right, calm down. prettyre slow So was anyone else out there with you? No, I was out there by myself. Was it your husband? What's his name? Robert Robertber Somewhere in all this, she'd hit the ground. both blood and mud on her. We were concerned for it and wanted to make sure she was taken care of and find out as much and as quickly Uh, what happened And all the cops kept watching the sky Because This is Texas cavens were about to open. A rain or any type of weather can damage or completely get rid of possible evidence. We had to move quick because the storm was moving fast. When we come back, What would investigators find out there at the crime scene? Chasey's purse was still on the floorboard. His personal cell phone was still in the center console covered in blood. B clue for us was that the weapon was was a shotgun. A shotgun, turnurn murder weapon So where was it My husband, he went to go home me, my Jeepus s the aroundround the corner and he's been shot in the head, please It was the worst crime Roy City had seen in a very long time. A man shot to death on a muddy road his wife standing close by Now she was in an ambulance, and police were trying to piece together what had happened, who their victim was, and who might have wanted him dead? I don't know Sporting his signature mustache and a six four close to three hundred pound physique, Bob Pointer could look intimidating So those who knew him best He was the complete opposite hisis mom Candy. He just didn't have a I mean bone in his by. It was your favorite? No, So they say What do you say Possibly Probably Bob was Candy's middle child between two sisters, Jennifer and Cheryl. He was not confrontational. He was very non confrontational. Peacekeeper all the time He liked helping people. Maybe that's why Bob became a firefighter, a well respected one He swallowed smoke for nineteen years. winding up as a captain in the University Park department outside Dallas and from his firehouse From the rig, even from the fires Bob kept in very close touch with his mom. Just because we had that rapport of ten to fifteen calls a day. Ten to fifteen calls a day Honestly, Mama's boy. I know, Yeah, truly. I adored him. So did his fellow firefighters, Bob Pointer got it done He even helped in Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina And he always came home unscathed prorofessionally speaking anyway. Bob's personal life was also the story of a man who ran toward trouble. Bob married Young and had two kids After nineteen years, that marriage fell apart Expensively so Around then is when Bob met Chasey Mormon who was much younger I think it was an infatuation. I thought it was Somebody twenty two years old You know, like like H's in his forties you know, and, uh A fling. A fling. Basically. yeah It wasn't a fling Bob married Jy It was a fresh start for Bob With this woman born and raised in small toown, Texas. I mean, she just had a heart of gold. I mean, she loved everybody Ashley met Chasey in middle school Back when Roy City was just a speck on the map There was nothing here. Nothing. We had Jack in the box and we had one gas station. And that was it Farm toown. Farm toown just country quQuet. Very quiet Pe didn't lock their doors. No Ashley and Chasey lost touch after high school. then reconnected when Ashley noticed Chasey's cake business on Facebook something Chasey did in addition to her job at a dental office and She did it on her spare time and she enjoyed doing it. and she was amazing at what she did. What made her so good at that Just her being so crafty and her imagination was E Ashley got to know Chasey's husband, Bob, and the couple's young daughter named Addison helped her mom decorate cakes. And it was kind of something that her and Addison did. together as well However, if Chasey and Addison spent plenty of time together, Chasey and the husband she called Robert did not What' you say about Robert? He was never there. He always worked. Well, he was a fire captain And he worked a lot of shifts. Yes, he did. That was a problem Yes Bob tried to make things right In early september twenty sixteen, he took his family on a trip to Mexico It was a chance to reconnect. Six days later, Bob Pointer was dead and notot in a fire Detective Michael Burke drove out to County Road twenty five ninety five to investigate his first career homicide. I grabbed my CID equipment, my criminal investigation equipment, and mostly at that time it was just a camera, flashlight. And off you go to the scene. Yes, sir. About halfway down the road was that truck later identified as Bobs. thenen another discovery. It's dark, so we're shining our flashlights on the path to make sure we don't trip or break an ankle and findall one of the deep ruts. And there was a reflection in the water of one of the puddles. And a closer look showed it was a cell phone. It was Chasey's cell phone. She'd apparently dropped it in the mud when she fell. It's why her nine hundred and eleven call was cut off. Further down the muddy road and around a bend was Chasey's Jeep Bob Pinter's body behind the wheel Burke took a close look Was he robbed or No. Chasey's purse was still on the floorboard of the vehicle. His personal cell phone was still in the center console, covered in blood The fatal shot had apparently been fired at close range. A Big clue for us was that of what the weapon was was a shotgun was that the wadding from the shotgun shell was still in the victim's skull There was no weapon at the scene. So Who shot Bob and Why? Coming up J justust breathe for me. That's h'ing. What had happened on that desolate road? Chasey tells a dramatic story. I heard a shot And the jees started rolling and I saw a shadow. That's awesome When dateline continues. Hello from Metstsy. So we've got a pretty personal question. What moments mean the most to you? Big firsts like your first home, baby, or pet Or what about hosting a party, getting a freelance gig, or ending a toxic relationship? One moment isn't bigger than the other. they're all special. And for each one, there's an Etsy seller who makes and picks the perfect piece, like custom drinkware, personalized portraits, jewelry, and more. 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Let us surprise you Chasey Pointer had just witnessed her husband being shot and she could barely breathe. What I need you to do is ent through your nose after your mouth, slow your breathing down, concentrate on that. Even as Chasey was getting hooked up with oxygen, offfficer Meek needed to speak with her while everything was still fresh in her mind Meek's body cam was rolling. Okay Tell us what happened. Chasey told Meek she was on her way to meet Bob at their local jack in the box. And when he texted me, I told him I was three miles away. Their daughter, Adison was at a friend's house that evening, so it would be just the two of them. He texted me. He told me it was a long three minutes When he touch me, I came on the carve and I went off the road. Chasey, still visibly shaken, said her jeep got stuck on that muddy road So Bob, already at the jack in the box, drove out to help her. But when he got there, I don't think I can make it down the road. So we walk we walked up here. Keny, we walk go to my jeep. She said Bob jumped in the driver's seat and pulled her jeep out. And wasing right the back of it in And I went to go and justard I heard a sh and the jeep started rolling and I didn't see anything. And I saw a shadow. That's awesome. She went to Bob, she said and yelled his name. No answer. And then she said, in a panic, she ran. I didn't know what else to do Chasey asked about her husband. Is o? Under the bright lights, inside the ambulance, Chasey could see her own arms. Just Just breathe for me, okay? That's husband. Just breathe for me That' husand me. I knew in my training experience not to let her focus on that, so I would ask her a separate question to redirect her focus. Officer Mee documented Chasey's injuries and the visible blood on her And once the paramedics released her, Meek escorted Chasey back to the police car, where she seemed to open up. was you stupid when we got married? She described ongoing marital problems. We don't spend a lot of time together. We can only see each other for a couple days. All. Be we argue? Yes, but it's because we don't spend a whole lot of time together becausecause of his shifts Chasey said they'd talked about divorce and Bob had threatened to take Adisa if it went through. My daughter's my w. Why would your husband be trying to take your daughter from me, though? Like what reason did he give you? He knows that that's what's going to hurt me the most and he knows that's what's gonna make me say, He's done it before. She said they'd been trying to work things out. been fun. We actually we just got back from Mexico this week. We had a really good time. Okay And things were fine. That didn't last, she said. Soon after returning from Mexico, their marriage started heading south again She told Bob she needed space And so Chasey went to see a friend, Michael Garza. He knew about Chasey's troubled marriage and had offered his home to her whenever she needed it. That night, Friday, Chasey texted Bob and they made plans to talk at a familiar spot We to stop and get Togo a jgle Mg when come home late from work. So I asked him if you wanted to meet me a Jack and Bat. And Bob agreed. I said, I love you. I do want us to work out. And he said, do you promise? And I said, yes, I promised. That promise now permanently unfulfilled Because Bob Pyter was no more. And Chasey, the only witness, said she didn't get a good look at the shooter. I holestly, I don't know. I was looking at my phone trying to call nine hundred eleven, and then when I looked out, there was nobody there. Okay. probably probably think I'm crazy. No, I need to understand I wasn't there. I need to understand what you saw, okay And Talk, talk in dark. Thats that's all I could see. I didn't see any I didn't see any firearms Naturally Meek wondered about Chasey's friend Michael Garza The cops looked up his Facebook profile and there he was. Pulling a shotgun Could Michael Garza be the shooter? But then she starts talking about he's on a long haul truck driver and wasn't in town. So then that kind of threw a wrench in that scenario. So then you start thinking, well, who else could it be? Meek wasn't sure didt know this. She was giving me too much information It's She she was telling me things that ultimately It didn't make sense for what we were there for. And he noticed something odd. When I wasn't talking to her, she would calm down. But as soon as I start talking to her, she'd get upset again and start hyperventilating. The more I spoke to her, the more it seemed like an e Was it all an act? Or was there something else going on n one way to find out, they escorted Chasey back to the police station. and dug deeper into her story. And that But sometimes it's hard to follow. County Road twenty five ninety five Coming up Dere Ty, you see nothing You seeen nothing. The fire captain's wife. Fes the heat. I don't buy it. I think you're full of crap Royce City detective Michael Burke might have been working his first homicide, but he already knew this. Something about Chasey Pointer's story did not ring true She gives a shadowy figure wearing dark clothing, shoots her husband and runs away shhadowy figure waiting out there in the dark on this remote road. Correct. That didn't make a lot of sense. Burke didn't challenge her right away He wanted to know more about the bumpy road that was Chasey and Bob's marriage. She hadd already told police she and Bob had problems to Burk She revealed much more So Rber you can just see you grabing that he's done this to me for seven years She's describing a marriage full of domestic abuse. Yes, sir. And violence She had made comments that Um you know, he had thrown her up against the wall The rest of her story was by now as familiar as a summer rerun planned meeting at Jack in the box, her Jeep getting stuck, and then Chasey hearing, but not seeing, the shot that killed Bob. And I put the Jeep apart and then I touched his face and I yelled at me. and I pull my hand away and b it all over kn Detective Burke zeroed in on a key detail. If Chasey touched Bob the way she said The blood should have dripped down from her hand. It did not. stre The streak right there in your arm is a blood splatter, okay Chasey had a pattern of blood on her arms, her shirt, a little on her face which indicated to Burke that Chasey had to be standing very close to Bob when the fatal shot was fired Chasey denied it. That not That is not fud. was not I was not next to him. I was not next to. And then I fell into a bud puddle Erk pressed her. How could she be so close and not see the shooter? you didn't see anybody This is the point where a lot of people would stop talking and ask for a lawyer That would not be Chasey Pointer She kept answering questions. includluding about her friend truck driver How did she describe her relationship with Michael Garza? She started out stating that they had some mutual friends and comment on Facebook. She noticed his truck and Send him a message on Facebook saying I like your truck Remember, hours before Bob was shot, Chasey said she went to Garza's home. That was after telling Bob she needed space She apparently did not tell Bob there were also some other needs. had youred before I was there What's more, Chasey revealed that Garza knew Chasey and Bob were supposed to meet that night. And Garza was jealous He said if I see him kiss you, he said I'm gonna couple so did Michael Garza kill Bob Pinter Chasey had told Officer Meek that by the time the murder occurred Garza was probably driving his truck out of state So he couldn't have been the shooter Now with Detective Burke. She seemed less sure of that I don't know if he did it I don't know that She insisted she didn't see Garza on County Road twenty five ninety five someomebody taking the sh Then she admitted there was something she did see. Garza's house that evening Yes. and Camo shotgun like the one Garza's holding in that Facebook photo Her story changed multiple times. As if she's making it up as she goes along, or like she's remembering additional details More along the lines of she realized the story that she provided wasn't good enough. And so she's going to give a little bit more hoping that I bite off on that and leave her alone He did not and after two hours Chy spilled it. Wh killed your husband shadow R Stasey said she and Garza had disgsed. roughing up her abusive husband According to Chasey, what actually played out on County Road twenty five ninety five was Michael Garza's plan and it was all his own come in Chasey said it wasn't her idea, but she went along Jasey called Bob to tell him her Jeep was stuck And Bob, the man who was always ready to help drove over to assist his wife with no idea that Michael Garza was lying in wait for him. Chasee said at the last moment, she tried to save her husband . anic She she said she called nine hundred and eleven and ran, only to have Garza stop her You pushed me down. Keep the d on phone He ended the call and he threw it down in front of me and I was has't even the She may have tried to stop it. She definitely called for help. Nevertheless, Chasey Pinter was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder Hours later, Bob's sister Jennifer got a call from her mom. She was screaming, Bobby's dead, Bobby's dead Jennifer was stunned And then her next words were, and Chasey's in custody. And I thought Wow. Yeah. And I said, what what? And she was hysterical and it was horrible I thought I died. It was old Emony died forty seven That's too soon Yeah forty seven years old young man still. had so much more to live for, more fires to fight and put out so many more lives to save A murdered son, a daughter in law, arrested. It was all too much to take And it wasn't over. A manhunt was underway for the mysterious Michael Garza, a possible killer at large, whose world was shrinking by the minute Coming up. Is it Sheila?? I'm off me. Inside the high stakes search for Michael Garza. We don't want it to get ugly for him anymore than we do for us, okay When dateline continues Hi, it's Siarra Miller. 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We don't want it to get ugly for him any moreore than we do for us, okay It never came to that. Two days after the murder, Garza turned himself in. When he comes in, does he have an attorney? No sir he does not. He turned himself in, tried to go speak to him, and he did not wish to speak to me. A few days after Garza surrendered, Bob Pinter's fire company laid him to rest with full honors. Bob Poyinter's wife, Chasey couldn't make it to that service. She and her lover were sitting in the Hunt County jail Then, a month after Garza turned himself in, a local farmer made a discovery two was recorded on police body cameras plowing his field, getting ready to grow some crops and saw something pulled out of his field and ended up being a camo shirt and a camo shotgun. Any of that traceable to anybody involved in this case? The serial number and everything came back to Michael Garza's brother. So conceivable that's your murder weapon? Yes, sir. Is that Michael Garza commits the murder and then what ditches his shirt and gun as he's running away. Yes, sir. The evidence seemed to support Chasey's story that Garza had been the trigger man. She hadd already told police she saw a camo gun at Garza's house. Plus, Garza's cell phone had pinged near the crime scene the night of the murder Prosecutors Jeff Kovach and Calvin Grogan believed Michael Garza was just following his heart. I think he really loved her. He was obsessed and infatuated with her Detective Burke picked up on that, the night he interviewed Chasey at the station. He spoke with her about it while he prepared to swap Chasey's hands for gunshot residue. Oh yes, the text messages Thousands of them retrieve from Chasey's cell phone that was found in the mud J just worry about you I would burn the world down over you These texts from Garza full of misspellings were in response to Chasey's complaints about her abusive husband and they seemed particularly damning Your problems are my problems. And I'll Eing shoot his ass And this I rock an orange jumpsuit. Michael Garza actually said in a text to Chasey Poyinter I rock an orange jumpsuit Yeah, that wasn't very that wasn't very smart of him to say that. but he's when you see what he's doing he's trying to be her protector. Okaykay. Michael Garza may have been a fool for love, but he was now accused of murder In july twenty eighteen, he went on trial. Garza took the stand in his own defense and offered a novel alibi for the night of the murder He told the court, he couldn't have killed Bob Poyinter for one simple reason. Michael Garza's alibi is that he's not committing murder. He's milkking Milking Oreo the cow. That was his story It took less than two hours for the jury to reach a verdict of guilty Michael Garza was sentenced to ninety nine years in prison. We couldn't find a full length photo of Garza, but trust me He looks just about as good in orange as you'd expect The prosecution then set its sights on the second defendant in this case. Chasey Pointer She led police to Garza and said she never wanted him to kill her husband Chasey insisted She tried to prevent that The prosecutors didn't buy it. They had raised the charge against her from conspiracy to murder because once again Chacy's verbal account was betrayed by her digital one. Coming up A lot of those for sex More men in Chasey's life Secrets spill out in court. She was looking for somebody to do her dirty work.ute Absolutely. Who would the jury believe My heart dropped. Mine too. I was petrified And when she walked in And our eyes met I mean, I just I swi on a strrangler. I really did. Bob Pinter's mom had to wait nearly three years to see her daughter in law stand trial for her son's murder And when it finally happened, Bob seemed to be the one on trial Is that random bver? The defense argued whatever lies Chasey may have told police She told the truth about this. She was a battered wife. is you justis don't grab me that he's done this to me for seven years. poter All six feet four and nearly three hundred pounds of him. was a bull of a man. Often a raging one implied the defense because Bob took testosterone, which had been prescribed by a doctor. Chasey's friend Ashley believed her story of abuse She did Tell me that he was abusive. Not just verbally or mentally, phhysically abusive. Physically The defense said Chasey also shared her troubles with someone who decided to take matters into his own hands Michael Garza. He and he alone argued her attorneys. killed Bob Pinter in a warp show of vengeance and love a murder that Chasey tried to stop I the back The defense told the jury that Chasey's actions at the scene proroved or innocence She called nine hundred eleven I know one and flag down those officers to help her husband What's going on? My husband? It made my blood boil. I think I was shaking, literally sitting in the courtroom when I heard this stuff Bob's family said the defense case bore no resemblance to reality. prosecutors agreed. Is there any credible evidence at all that Chasey Pointer was abused by her husband? No There's no ER visit. There's no nine hundred eleven call. No previous law enforcement contact at that address. Zero There's nobody else who's ever even said they saw Bob even get mad. He's been described as a big teddy bear On the other hand, they did find plenty of evidence that Chasey wanted Bob gone she's kind of fishing around for multiple men to commit this murder for her. That's right, it turned out Michael Garza wasn't Chasee's only lover. In the months leading up to the murder, she'd been juggling three other boyfriends Detective Burke brought them in for questioning. Well a lot of those for sex. Along with frequent meet upps for sex Two of her lovers told police. Chasey also shared the story of abuse that she claimed to have suffered the hands of Bob Voyer She did tell me that he had hurt her a lot She would meet these guys They'd be interested in her and she would immediately start the vict telling her story. right. My husband is beating me. I'm in this terrible marriage. I feel threatened. Maybe there's something here with you and me. Right, Exactly. That's her MO. Okay? And she plays the victim and manipulates. Among Chasey's stable of M were a couple of firefighters They were not, however, from her husband's fire company That was apparently where Chasey drew the line o one of those firefighters, a guy named Danny She texted this about her husband I wish he'd run out of air in a fire to another named Seaan, she texted I only have one way out of this and it's not going to happen anytime soon. Minutes later, he texted, Yeah, not an option and then this exchange. I hate him so much, Chasey texted Sean. his response Shoot him And she replied I don't look good in orange. Chasey was looking for somebody besides the three she'd already been involved with. and Michael Gars is this perfect guy that comes along. She was looking for somebody to do her dirty work. Absolutely. Absolutely