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Good morning, everyone. You're listening in to the Dateline story meeting. Okay, so let's jump in. Our producers are catching up on breaking crime news. Do you think there's gonna be cameras in the trial? We're on track with this. Everyone is losing their minds over this story Welcome to Dateline True Crime Weekly. I'm Andrea Canning. It's may twenty eighth and here's what's on our docket In San Diego County, California, it's week two in the murder trial of a man accused of paying people to cast magic spells on his wife. I can't remember a time that we talk about magic or spells in general when we're talking about homicide trials. In Dateline roundup, we've got the latest from the courtroom in the case of Barry Morphheew, a Colorado man accused of murdering his wife using animal tranquilizers And a New Jersey businessman convicted of murdering his own brother and his brother's family faces the judge at his sentencing. You are a quadrupple murerer who slaughtered innocent children. That is the identity you will carry for the remainder of your life behind prison walls Plus, the widow of a man murdered in front of their two year old child tells us about her campaign to bring comfort to children who end up alone and scared at the police station. So as I reflected on that night Wishing that there had been more to comfort her, that she had a diaper that fit her. I just thought we have to do something. But before all that, we're off to Los Angeles, where a TikTok star has been charged with attempting to take out a hit on her ex. Beautiful lifestyle influencer, Gabby Gonzalez has built a devoted following on social media, documenting her life in Hawaii and beyond Hundreds of thousands of followers tune in to the twenty four year old' posts about exotic travel, beachy fashion. music. Every day my favorite song keeps changing, but this was my favite song the day two and even motherhood. In the castle. Can you help me W! She seemed to have it all, but now Gabby is attracting attention for all the wrong reasons. Allegations of conspiracy to commit murder. LA prosecutors accusing a TikTok star of trying to hire somebody off the dark web to kill her ex. Gabby's ex and the alleged target, Jack Avery, is a former member of the boy band, Why donon't We? Wh Tuesday. He is also the father of Gabby's child Prosecutors in Los Angeles say back in twenty twenty, Gabby embarked on a years long quest to find a hit man to kill Jack and they allege she didn't act alone Here to bring us up to speed on the alleged plot and what took so long to uncover it is NBC News Breaking News reporter Matt Levitas. Matt, thanks for being here. Thank you So Matt, let's start with some background on Gabby Gonzallez. We know she's this beautiful influencer. Tell us more about her She's this twenty four year old from Florida. She has hundreds of thousands of followers on TikTok and on Instagram. And like you just said, she posts these sort of glamorous shots of her in Hawaii and her in California in front of waterfalls and recording her on vacation with her young daughter aris She describes herself on her Instagram page as a lover of life and a mermaid at heart. Yeah, it's ironic because everything in her posts, I was scrolling through the years and everything is so light. So Matt, what do we know about her relationship with Jack Avery? this ex of hers who was in the boy band? Yeah, so they dated in the late twenty ten s when they were both teenagers. Their relationship was brief. They had a child together in twenty nineteen And really since then, they've been in this contentious custody battle with Gabby accusing Jack Gabriel of being this sort of unfit father What did Jack Avery have to say about this dispute? He actually addressed it on X and on TikTok describing the allegations against him as false accusations and painful attacks. What happened with the legal side of things with regards to this custody dispute over their daughter We don't have those details, but what we do know from the prosecution in this case is that Gonzalez wanted full custody of their daughter and she, you know did not get that. Yeah, so this actually became a part of the prosecutor's felony complaint that you know, this was a possible motive So As we mentioned off the top, Gabby according to prosecutors was not acting alone Who do they say she was allegedly plotting with to take out Jack with a hitman? So prosecutors are alleging that Gabby with her father, Francisco Gonzalez, who's the successful personal injury attorney in Florida and her boyfriend at the time back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, a young man by the name of Kai Cordre, who lives in Hawaii. And no prosecutors alleged that Francisco, Gabby's dad was sort of funding this whole scheme, right? So in April of twenty twenty one, he transferred ten thousand dollars to Kai Cordree for the purpose of hiring this hit man. Okay. and then prosecutors say, Ki, then took that money and searched for a possible hitman on the Dark Web. Right. so after receiving the money, Ki in May of twenty twenty one, according to prosecutors, signed up for a Dark Web murder for Hiire sight using the alias Lizard King sixty nine and he asked for Jack Avery to be killed by, quote, whatever method was easiest and that included a shooting or some sort of stagage accident In septtember twenty twenty one, the FBI came into the picture. Tell us how they get involved Right. So prosecutors say that at some point, Kai made contact with this undercover FBI agent who was posing as a hitman and that the FBI recorded the phone call between these two suggesting that Kai wanted the plot to take place and that he was acting at the behest of his girlfriend at the time, Gabby Gonzalez And by December of twenty twenty one, Francisco Gonzalez also got on the phone with an undercover FBI agent. These are wild accusations, Matt. But this alleged plot never came to fruition. Jack, Avery is alive and well What went right, if you will, for Jack that this did not happen? So the last we know about this case where the prosecution laid out that Gonzalez and Kai spoke about the matter over the phone in October of twenty twenty two with Gabby suggesting that she had some concerns that they were going to get caught We know that a month later, November of twenty twenty two, her home was searched and raided by the FBI But we don't know what happened from then until now. And that's sort of the large question here. why whyy was no action taken? Yeah, because that was Th three and a half years ago. It's very interesting, to think like what has transpired in these years Gabby and her dad were arrested just last week and Kai was arrested over the weekend. Right. so that's what I've been asking the authorities in Los Angeles. and you know they keep pointing me to the statement that they gave us last week. The LA, DA, Nathan Hoockman said that This was a lengthy investigation that was initiated by the FBI and eventually turned over to our office resulting in criminal charges being filed. Has there been any comment from any of the defendants? We have not heard a peep from any of them. They have not entered please to our knowledge. We know that Francisco was arrested his home state of Florida and extrade to California. We know that Gabby is out on two million dollars bail that she posted. and as a condition of that bail, she is not allowed to have any contact with her daughter or to post throughout the case on social media, We know that she is expected to make her plea this summer. All right, more hearings to come on this and if convicted They face the possibility of twenty five years to life in state prison. Matt, thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me oming up Five years after a woman disappeared from her California home, her body has still not been found, but her husband is on trial for her alleged murder Prosecutors say he may have used Hamlock to kill her Chula Vista is a city in San Diego County known for its peaceful neighborhoods and suburban charm. In Spanish, the name means beautiful view But what happened to a working mom on a winter's day back in twenty twenty one would cast a dark shadow over the area Thursday, january seventh, a security camera captured thirty nine year old Maya Milete, pulling into the driveway of the house she shared with her husband, Larry, and their three young children But investigators say there is no footage of Maya ever leaving the house after that Five years later, Larry is now on trial for her alleged murder. Prosecutors believe he killed Maya, but can't say for certain how or where he disposed of her body because it has never been found What they do point to is a trail of evidence they say includes poison, an alleged affair, and even magic spells. Larry's defense attorney on the other hand says there is no proof Maya is even dead And if she is, there were other people who may have killed her like her married's lover As Larry's trial enters its second week, NBC seven investigative reporter Alexis Reis is here to tell us more about the proceedings so far, which Alexis includes a call you got from Larry himself right in the middle of trial. That's right. I definitely wasn't expecting that, and it's definitely a first for me. Yeah, well, thank you for joining us. We're gonna to get to that in just a moment But you've been covering the story from the very beginning G us a sense of who Larry and Maya were before all this happened, at least who they seem to be to the outside world They got married very young. They were teenagers in Hawaii Eventually through the Navy, Larry gets relocated over to southern California. Maya goes with. and they both wind up working very successful jobs. He's an optometry, She's an administrative specialist for the Navy and from photos They had kind of the perfect family. As we talked about off the top of the segment, the last confirmed sighting of Maya was when she was captured on her neighbor's security camera pulling into her driveway. Maya's sister reports her missing a few days later. That's right. So she had her daughter's eleventh birthday coming up. There was a big family trip that they were all supposed to go on together in Big Bart And then just a couple days before this She stops responding to anyone. it seemed completely out of character Ultimately, her sister drove down to Maya's house and insisted that she go inside and see what was going on. and that's when she called nine hundred eleven. Mayas sisters and brothers started vigils and searches and trying to find her. That's right. I mean, we saw hundreds of people from Tulavesta come out looking for Maya very early on and notably not at those events was Larry Milillet, And that's something that police mentioned when they initially arrested him about nine months after she vanished. Which brings us to this trial that has been five years in the making. Assistant District atttorney Christie Bowles gave the prosecution's opening statement And she painted a picture of a marriage in serious trouble. You absolutely get that picture. When you listen to her friends or her coworkers have started to take the stand and her family members. Everyone kind of said that she said that she was done with him. and there was also the fact that he had found out she had an affair with a coworker. And after that, he sort of started be T engage in behavior're constantly asking other people to help him convince her to stay in the marriage And he also reached out to somethingomet called a spell caster Yeah This is something that I think makes this case particularly unique. I can't remember a time that we talk about magic or spells in general when we're talking about homicide trials that we've never he in San Diego. Yeah, no. Larry Milante spent thousands of dollars requesting spell after spell after spell from a couple of spellcasters talk to the prosecution, they say it shows that he had intent to harm his wife. and in fact, one of the spells was He was willing to ask for Maya's bones to be broken so that she wouldn't leave the house and be reliant on him. But if you talk to the defense, they'll say all these spells show that he was just in love with her and so badly wanted to keep her and hold her close. Seems bizarre. The prosecutors do have a lot of missing pieces as to how they believe this alleged murder happened. What are they telling the jury Front in the opening statements, the prosecution said, We're not going to be able to tell you how she died We don't have a body in this case They've thrown out a couple of things. they said there were some Apicious Google searches Larry was making about poison. What kind of poison acts the quickest? Is there plant poison where you never wake up And the big moment in trial came when they talked about a vial where they tested it for heemmlock. And according to the prosecution, the results came back positive and investigators found this vial in the house, right Well, it wasn't right away. It wasn't during the initial search of the house. The defense said that they tested that multiple times and that the vial came back negative for Hmlock three out of the four. So they're arguing it's inconclusive. What other theories did the prosecution have for the jury about Maya's cause of death? There's testimony She had been talking to friends leading up to her disappearance about how Larry had once choked her to a point of unconsciousness That might explain why there's no direct forensic evidence. And then last but not least, a neighbor told police that they heard nine gunshots and they have surveillance video. However, the FBI said the video just wasn't good enough quality to confirm or identify those sounds as gunshots. So there's different kinds of ways that they're sort of hinting this might have happened. but the reality is no one really knows yet What happened to Maya? and where is she now Alexis, we've talked about this alleged affair with a coworker. The affair is confirmed, according to the prosecution. They said that Maya and a coworker named Jamie Laird began having an extramarital affair. so you have the affair playing into Larry's motive But on the flip side, you've got the defense saying there's a couple loose ends on the other side of that affair that should have warranted some investigating of more people than just Larry In their opening statement, Larry's defense team suggested that Jamie Laaird had acted suspiciously around the time of Maya's disappearance. That's right. Something the defense has pointed out that I think we didn't know until last week Their anniversary of their affair is the day that Maya vanished, january seventh and Jamie Laird stopped texting Maya after Maya vanished. Granted, his wife who was pregnant at the time of their affair Birth on january eighth So. there could be a variet of reasons' right. But there' also the fact that when police eventually did talk to him, he had a new phone The wife's phone was investigated, but her mother also, apparently there's reports that she was harassing Maya So you have some other people here that we really never learned very much about at all until now The prosecution alluded that we're going to hear from these people. There's so much interest in them. I think they have to bring them to the stand and I think they're going to have to eliminate them as suspects if they're going to eliminate any reasonable doubt, according to some of the experts that we've talked to. So that's the nuts and bolts of the cases so far for both sides. But before you go, Alexis, let's talk about one moment that stopped the trial in its tracks. Maya's dad was on the stand. Yes. Her father was, I think, one of the most difficult things to witness in a courtroom. He's just answering questions about kind of some of Larry's behavior. And then he just stops answering questions altogether. and he starts crying and screaming at Larry and pointing at him and saying, you're a murderer. Why did you do this to my daughter? Why did you do it?? And Larry's own defense attorney starts crying And because she's crying she's worried about how that looks in front of the jury. So she calls for a mistrial. Oh my God. comes close. We come back though and the judge asks the jury if they can basically disregard the accusations of murderer that they watched The jury says that they can do that And we decideed to keep moving forward. And it's kind of a couple hours after that that my phone rings from your county. Hry It's Larry. Why is he calling you in the middle of a trial? I know after the fact now that his attorneys had no idea he was doing this. but mainly, Learry wanted to talk about the fact that he doesn't think he's getting a fair trial He is really worried about the jury for a couple reasons. As they were going through selecting jurors, eighty percent of them had already heard about the case. And he didn't like that this emotional raw moment with Maya's father happened right in front of the jury, and he is worried about that. Yeah. Alexis, wow, this trial is absolutely fascinating. I look forward to having you back on to see how this all unfolds. Well, thank you so much for having me Next, it's time for Dateline roundup. Barry Morfew, the Colorado man accused of murdering his wife with animal tranquilizers, appears in court. And the New Jersey businessman convicted of murdering four members of his own family learns his fate. plus, a mother's mission to bring comfort to young children who find themselves alone at the police station Welcome back. Joining me for this week's roundup is Dateline prodroucer Hay Barber. Thanks for being here, Haley Thanks for having me So Hailey, first we are heading to Colorado where Barry Morphheew, a man who has been accused of murdering his wife with a cocktail of animal tranquilizers, was back in court recently. And Haley, you have been reporting on this case since it broke. Give us a quick refresher on this one Yeah, absolutely. So Barry's forty nine year old wife, Suzanne went missing on Mother's Day back in twenty twenty, and her mountain bike was found in a ravine close to the house And her helmet was actually in a different location. You were actually there, Hailey as hundreds of people started searching for Suzanne. What was Barry saying at the time about what might have happened? Barry actually, in a video that was posted on Facebook at the time, he made a kind of very emotional appeal. asking for tips and begging for Suzanne to come home Oh Susanne, if anyone is out there that can hear this that has you Pase We'll do whatever it takes to bring you back. We love you and we miss you. Y girls need you A year later, however Barry was arrested and charged with Suzanne's murder. Her body had not been found Why did investigators zero in on him? Investigators say they learn the marriage was in trouble. Suzanne wanted out. She had told friends she was afraid of Barry Barry insisted that he was innocent and about nine days before trial The case against him imploded when the judge ruled that the prosecution had failed to hand over evidence to the defense The charges against Barry were ultimately dropped at the time. Hailey, how did Barry end up getting charged a second time? Because it wasn't over. Yeah. In twenty twenty three, three years after Suzanne went missing, her remains were found. An autopsy indicated that she had animal tranquilizers in her system. And according to prosecutors, it's a very rare drug that's used just to specifically tranquilize deer is not something that's very easy for just you're a regular citizen to get Investigators were able to determine that Barry Morphheew had that chemical within four years of Suzanne's disappearance Barry was arrested for a second time and he has pleaded not guilty to first degree murder. He's actually out on bail and he's awaiting the start of his trial, which will begin in October. Let's get the latest from the courtroom Barry's defense team has filed thirty one pretrial motions seemeems like a lot of motions. What are they arguing? Yeah, a lot of them are run of the mill motions. You know, their are motions to get more information about the backgrounds of prospective jurors. Also a couple that stood out to me, including one in which they talk about these kind of statements that Suzanne had made, which are some text messages she was sending to friends at the time, Barry is not being nice to me. I'm very concerned about the status of our relationship. Okay, we'll definitely keep an eye on that case as we get closer to the October trial date. Our next story is in New Jersey where fifty nine year old convicted killer Paul Canaro appeared in court last week for his sentencing. He was convicted back in February for the twenty eighteen murders of his younger brother Keith, Keith's wife, and their two young children Haileley, what was happening in the courtroom during sentencing? Yeah, the courtroom was packed with family members, Andrea. and, you know, based on local reporting we're seeing, it looks like he was just kind of stone faced sitting there as the judge ultimately sentenced him. Yeah, there he is, you know, once a businessman, now he's wearing a yellow jumpsuit, It's quite the fall from Grace There were several emotional statements from the family. Paul did not just take Keith and his family's lives He trying to steal the man The legacy of a man whose character Compassion and integrity he could never, ever come close to being. Hilly did Paul give a statement at all Paul did not speak, and his defense informed the judge that he maintains his innocence and he didn't wish to say anything in court Before he handed down the sentence, the judge walked through the events of the murders. Let's take a listen to Judge Lamu. You are no longer Paul Canero You are an intimate number in the Department of Corrections You are in quadruple murder who slaughtered innocent children That is your identity That is the identity you will carry for the remainder of your life behind prison walls. So Haley, what sentence did he got Paul was sentenced to four life sentences plus an additional sixteen years For our final story, we are heading to Florida for an update in the case of thirty three year old Microsoft employee Jared Bideigan, who got out of his car in february twenty twenty two to move a tire blocking the road and was shot dead by a gunman Bideigan's ex wife, Shannna and her second husband, Mario Fernandez, Saldana. were charged with conspiring to murder Bide again. They have pleaded not guilty and are scheduled to go on trial later this year Central to the case against them is the man prosecutors say the couple hired as a hit man Haley, before we get to the latest on this, just remind us what we know about this suspected gunman. Prosecutors say the alleged gunman is sixty five year old Henry Tennon. He was a tenant of Mario Fernandez Elddana, and he drove a truck similar to the one caught on security camera at the scene of the shooting After being questioned, Tennon told investigators he had in fact been hired by Mario to carry out the murder. He pleaded guilty to second degree murder in March of twenty twenty three. As part of his plea, he agreed to testify against both Shannna and Mario. Earlier this year, Tennon abruptly changed his mind and withdrew his guilty plea. His defense attorney also asked the judge to throw out all the statements Tennon made to prosecutors. That's right. The defense argued that anything he said to prosecutors should never be heard by a jury That's a big deal because presumably, if tenant's jury can't hear it, then neither can the juries at Shannna and Mio's trial. The judge made a ruling on the motion this week. What did she decide, Haley The judge ruled that the conversation between Tennon and prosecutors before he pleaded guilty could not be presented as evidence, but his sworn statement when he pleaded guilty can. So the jury is going to hear some of Tennon's, you know, original story that he had given Okay So what can we expect next for Tenon? Yeah, it's a good question. There's no trial date set for him yet But in the meantime, Jared Bridegan's ex wife, Shannna Gardner, will head to trial in August Her now estranged husband, Mario Fernandez Saldononna, will stand trial in September. Okay, thank you for all these updates, Hailey. Of course, thanks for having me We just told you about the latest developments in the case of Jared Bride Again. What makes this story even more heartbreaking is that Jared wasn't the only one in the car that night. A couple passing by found Jared's two year old daughter, Bexley strapped in the back seat. They made this call to nine hundred eleven. He's just laying there and he has a little kid in the car My husband right now is holding her. She was cryry I think it's just him and this little girl. Bexley was taken to a nearby police station where Sergeant Tona Tater tried to comfort her, but said there was only so much she could do. She later talked to NBC twelve about the experience. Me being a stranger to her, her not knowing who I am, and obviously the trauma she just went through, you try to do the best that you can. When Bexley's mom and Jared's widow, Kirststen Bide again reunited with her daughter at the police station, she realized there were few resources to comfort kids who find themselves in the care of law enforcement. So Kirststen came up with the Bexley box. It's a kit containing items designed to help calm young children during moments of crisis. There are now dozens of them in police stations across the country. We invited Kirststen to come on the podcast to tell us more about what's inside those boxes and how she and Bexley are doing Welcome to the podcast Kirststen. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. First off, I just want to say all of our hearts go out to you and your family. How are you doing? I'm doing okay. I think it helps that. The trials are coming up. fininally. We've been waiting for almost four and a half years and it's finally here. Yeah, it's like you say you never get closure, but you can certainly have closure on a you know the legal portion of it, which is very difficult Right. I'm so sorry for all of you And I also commend you because out of this grief, you have created something good for other children. First off, take us back to the day when you walked into that police station to get Bexley and she's there all by herself with law enforcement. That must have just been excruciating as a mother. It was. You know, it was at night. we walk in and she's in Essentially the break room. She's sitting at a table. She's got one little squishy toy, believe it was like a stress ball type of a toy and then a few crayons in a coloring book. And she's two and a half. She's little And just to sit there without more to comfort her was heartbreaking. She also needed a diaper change and I didn't have a diaper bag. So there's just several things that sat with me for months after that experience that I wish had been different for her. And you had been looking for Jared, right? Like until that point, you didn't know what had happened. I had been calling him repeatedly and there was no answer until finally A different voice answered his phone, and it was a police officer They wouldn't tell anything except to come to the police station. And so I walked in there and I had No knowledge of what had happened up until that point. Wow. I can't even imagine you that evening having to go through all of that. Has Bexley ever talked to you about that night? Does she remember anything? We haven't spoken in detail about it for probably a couple of years, but when she was younger, she would repeat Mostly about sounds that she heard that night and Daddy on the ground was another phrase that she would repeat Mostly now, we talk about who our dad was, the memories that we have, we look at pictures and videos, you know, his photos all over our home. And she's six now, turning seven this year. She'll be seven in this summer. She's excited. So let's talk about your initiative after that terrible day. You launched a foundation and you created something called the Bexley Bx. So tell us about how this came about, what this box is, what it entails So as I reflected on that night, wishing that there had been more to comfort her, that she had a diaper that fit her I just thought we have to do something, something that'll make this better for other kids that might, you know, hopefully not be in the same situation, but similar situation where they need to be comforted while at a police station And so I shared this idea on social media. I said, you know, I want to get a cute toy box, and I want to fill it with things and just donate it to them so that this doesn't happen again. And once I shared that, it kind of just caught fire. And a whole bunch of moms, some dads too were like, oh, you should put this in there. And what about this? And so I gathered some of that feedback and very carefully selected the items to go into the first Bexley box And delivered it to the Jacksonville Beach Police Department where this happened. And then from there, the fire not only behind myself, but behind the community and others across the world, really, was so contagious and so large that we knew, hey, got we have to start a foundation because I can't keep having people send me Amazon and target boxes to my house. That's just not going to be a long term solution So we founded the Bideiggan Foundation and through there, we have done almost seventy Bexley boxes across the country to this dayate And within the next month, we will do an additional two hundred and forty five. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Do you have departments reaching out to you now saying, hey, we'd like one of those? We do. We have departments reaching out. mostly it's women actually on the staff at police departments that're saying, we want one. Victim advocates that work at police departments and shheriff's offices. And then we also have people in the community that said, I want one from my police station So we've had several sponsored by families in communities across the country that want to make sure that their police station has a exX box ready to go. We have just partnered with Walmart for the entire state of Florida. So they have't originally We committed to doing about one hundred thousand dollars in funds and in kind donations, and they have since doubled that. And they are the reason we are going to be doing two hundred forty five agencies in the state of Florida by the end of June. Congratulations. And how has this affected Bexley that she I'm sure she's a part of this, right? Yeah, she is. She was at the press conference where we announced the partnership and she was excited What she really enjoys though is helping to pick out the items for the box. And some of the things that we put in there are based off of one of her favorites for when she was little. Is that a jelly cat? No. It's just a little security blanket. She calls it her lovey. So there's several of those in each box. She gets excited. and I think she likes that something's named after her. I mean, what could would enjoy that? And she knows why we did it and that's meaningful to her. I mean, it has to be a part of her therapy, right? in a way. Doesn't that all kind of go hand in hand? It does. I think it's therapy for our whole family, just knowing like we can take the darkest part of our lives and turn it into something bright and hopeful for other people. You've already come so far, Kiirsten What is sort of the goal for the future with your endeavor that is exploding at this point? My biggest hope is that a Bexleave box will eventually be available in every law enforcement agency in the country I want a Vxy Box to become a standard resource kind of like an AD or a first aid kit, something that departments know that they can count on long term that will be refilled and kept updated for them so that they can serve the children in our communities the best that they can. I just love this. I mean, as much as I am so sad for you and everything that's happened, this makes me really happy. Thank you, Kirsten for joining us today Thank you, Andrea That's it for this episode of Dateline True Crime Weekly To get ad free listening for all our podcasts, subscribe to Dateline Premium And coming up this Friday on Dateline, Keith has a brand new twist to tell you about in the inccredible Tale of Sante and Kenneth Kimmes, the mother and son Gifters who became killers. There's a lot of times over thirty five years where you just you know, your mind kind of Runs Wild It's nice to be able to put it to rest. Watch The Devil War White airing this Friday at Nine eight Central on NBC. or stream it starting Saturday on peacock Thanks for listening Dateline True Cime Weekly is produced by Carson Cumms, Caroline Casey, and Keanni Reid Our associate producers are Ellerie Gladstone Groth and Arya Young Our senior producer is Liz Brown Kurloff, Veronica Mazka is our digital producer. Rick Kwuan is our sound designer Original Music by Jesse McGintty, Paul Ryan is executive producer, and Liz Coule is senior, exxecutive producer of Dateline All right, thanks very much.