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You're listening to a compleomplexly podcast. Hello And welcome to deear Hank and John Or as I prefer to think of it, deear John and Hank? It's a podcast where T two brothers answer your questions, give you dubious advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John, what did the ducks say after he bought his chapstick Back I put it on my bill. Oh yes. I like that. Of course that's what the duck said Pank it's my twentieth anniversary today. I am recording a pod in the midst of my twentieth anniversary celebration. Why Well And also, what are you doing? 'cause I need ideas because I tot have this. I was told this was a requirement or I wouldn't be doing it Thank. I didn't tell you that, but I'm sure somebody did. And I appreciate you doing it. U I we're just going out to dinner. We're not doing anything fancy. We've been traveling so much, both of us for work that we just really wanted a week at home. So it's been nice to have a week at home. And this is a beautiful time of year in Indianapolis Dh Trees are lush and it's raining all the time and it's just it's great. I love it. I'm so The plants are in the ground, all the pepper plants with my mom, also your mom that we use to make hot sauce every year. It's just great. I'm I am Weving a spring dream. I wish I was out there It's the time of year to be here. Drizzled on while I tend the peppers. There you go. That's what you you're correctly imagining. The other day I was sitting in here Um Just like what my wife calls clicky clacky, you know, just typing away Never I'm Never quar what I'm typing, but I'm always typing something so many different things. I say that that is the job of the influencer. Everyone thinks it's a lot of glamour, but it is mostly clicky clacky. Clicky clacky, so. I was in here clicking and clacking and I looked up and I saw our You know, seventy five year old parents like kneeling in the garden working away as I clicked and clicked and clacked and I felt a little guilty felt a little like I wasn't pulling my weight in the garden. Yeahep What is the u pointo of it all No. You know, that's what they come to deer Hank and John for. That is. It comes we don't get that question that often, but I feel like it's beneath a lot of them. You know peopleople are trying to get to what's the point of it all, but there' they're getting at it through my my roommate wants to put this poster up and I don't Yeah, ye. well, really, the question underneath all the questions is, what the hell are we doing? And it's a great question to some extent, though it is interesting to have a nine year old because he, that question isn't under under anything. There's no what is the point of it all for Orren yet nor for my cats, you know, they don't think know what the point of it all is. They're like the like the point is to do what I want to do right now which is grow outside and eat meat That's the cat life So but but that you know, we ended up the way that we ended up. And so what is the point of it all actuallyually seems to to matter quite a lot Yeah We actually get into this and I've just listened to our episode of Humans, which we recorded together ' like to ask you about humans. We know the answer to that question. We talk about it in that podcast. which is the rock. is better than nothing And if a rock is better than nothing, then a lot of other things become true Yeah Yeah, two rocks become better than one rock. Yep A person becomes better than a rock yeah I mean, there's a number of other steps on the way, but yeah, I would agree that a person is better than a rock. And if you're able to make those value judgments, you can make some other value judgments. We should mention that Hank has a new podcast coming out. It's called Humans It's an interview show. Hank and I are becoming sort of, I would say D List Mclroys where We are launching Pods withithin Pods. So I have a new podcast about the World Cup called The Ond with my friend, the brilliant Peruvian novelist Danielle Arakon Hank has this podcast Humans, where he interviews a huge variety of humans on the subject of being a human And we've got Dear Hank and John. and that's not even to mention the universe with Katie Mac. O attempts to explain the entire history of the universe. There's also scihow tangents which you can still listen to and even delete this, which you never know. C we could could come back. could come back at any come back any day. Same thing with the Anthropcyine reviewed. The other day I almost recorded an episode of the Anthropy Reviewed, but then I made a project for awwesome good. Good for you, good for you. That makes sense U and humumans launch is basically in a week. So the day you're listening to this, it's Pbably if it's around when when it came out then you go got a week, but you can go subscribe to it right now That was a very strange sent. It was I didn't do great. I will mess up to the fact that I didn't do great You know MclRoy would have allowed that to end up in a finished pod. Yeah, but it's in this one I know I know it is. What I'm saying is the day that this podcast comes out is a week before the first episode of Humans comes out which is with me and John. It's going be very similar to this just A little more serious. It's a little more existential. There's some funny eleents but it's a little more existential. But let's say on the topic of existential with this question from Evan who writes Dear John and Hake, my name is Evan and I am nine years old I am changing schools next year and I don't know what it will be like. I'm concerned about what my new school will do differently from my old school. Do you have any tips about making new friends or starting somewhere new? Older than seven, but not eleven, Even es, I know you're a top podcast for teens and sleeping and everything, but your podcast is my favorite thing to do when I brring him to school in the mornings, Thanks for sharing your pod with us. I think that's from a parent. It does indeed say dad Oh yes The fantastic. What a lovely it's its I cannot believe The spot that we have earned in Evan's life Yeah. We are to real h. Remember Ian Scholes? We are Ian Scholes to Evan? Yes We have a seat at the table in Evan's young life as he goes through these difficult things. Now, part of the reason this is hard, Evan is probably because you've never done it before, right? So when you're doing anything for the first time, it's hard. And you know now, if I were to enter a new school, it would still be stressful, but it would be a lot less stressful And that'll be the case for a new school, right? Like the first day it'll be really hard and a little stressful and overwhelming. You'll have support from teachers and everything, but it it'll still feel overwhelming, I'm sure. And the second day will feel a little easier. And it won't be a straight line where like every day gets easier, but it will get easier over time so that by October or November, you'll be looking back at yourself in August or September and saying, wow made a long journey from that young man And here's a crazy,vven, if you can believe it. But you had a first day at your current school. And that also was hard. and it was probably harder on the first day than it was on the second and harder on the second day than it was on the third That's kind of how it is. and also it's so easy for our minds to obscure that we've done all of these first things before Yeah. especially when they work out Like when they work out, they don't feel like the risk that they were. Right That's a great point But it's important to learn how to take risks of it and that's a big part of what you're doing. So you're doing it. You're you know, doing the life and you're doing the person thing And in the end, I think That's what it's all about is doing the thing, you know, being a person in the world in the context of other people And you're doing that with your family and you're going to be doing that with your new friends at school next year All right, Hank, I got another question for you It's from Andy who writes, deear John Hank there are four ducks that hang out on my cul deac. I don't live near any sort of water. Every time I see them, I feel like ducks are awesome and I should love them, but they are also Al a little bit looking like they're up to something? Should I love ducks or are ducks some sort of nefarious and conniving animal that's just putting on a front? justust winging it, Andy John You are the ducks up to something Yeah, I mean, almost certainly, right? Like in the same way that, you know, humans are reshaping our planet in profound ongoing ways without really trying to So we're the ducks, man Yeah, so are the ducks and also like u the great news This is great news. We are't letting the ducks do whatever Right. They are still limited by their environment in a way that we are not Yeah. That has turned out to be complex You know? Yeahs for the earth and for us. But the ducks, they they're still in their lin. We were on a call recently with a Nobel laaureate who pointed out that we have the ability now for the first time in and that was a little bit of a brag. We pointed out that we have the ability now for the first time in human history to solve world sized problems M And that's really true, right? Like Yeah. But But also it's the first time in human history where we have the ability to create world sized problems. you think they're both true. O thing you can say about a group of ducks on a cul deac. Yeah, they cannot create a world sized problem. They are they up to something maybe Probably, especially with they're not near water, but not climate change, you know? R? D didn't do that. Right, ye. They're not up six extinction Yeah they're not they're not making a two thousand five hundred nuclear warhead Yeah Right. That's a great point. Hank. they're not No, they're not creating like duck chat bots that allow you to have your own personalized conversation with an imagined duck It ends up with duck fertility rates They're stable. They're super stable. Yeah, yeah yeah. probablyrobably going up a little bit because because they're just they're getting better at living around people.ig around Colesackax Yeah, they're able to live far away from any form of water than they are evolving. It's hilarious. These ducks are like moving in on the pigeon's turf D't see mallards becoming as ubiquitous and as annoying as pigeons. Oh man, I tell you what. likeike they're beautiful birds. And so are pigeons Yes no pigeonsving about starlings and pigeons And to some extent, seagulls, certain seagulls No, but red wing blackbirds, I'll give you. Oh, for sure. House finches, gorgeous birds. Yeah. We just like we get used to these animals, but maallards are gorgeous. Beautiful, beautiful birds. If they were rare, we would be astounded by them That's right You know what we would really be astounded by if it were rare humans Like the human capacity for sacrifice and compassion and wonder and cruelty and all of that stuff. like We would just be like, well that we would we would treat imagine a world where we're all raccoons. And there's going be a new intro to my podcast. And there's like two hundred humans. Yeah. well, raccoons was a bad choice because there's a lot of those No, no, no, but imagine a world where we, you and I are all raccoons Okay Okay and there's and we're just are raccoons, eatating our trash, but like we've got semi opposable thumbs. We can get stuff done. We can turn on the faucet outside, you know, if we need to. We've got ualalia. There's something that it's like to be a raccoon, but you know, we're not having abstract thoughts or symbolic language. We're not creating constellations out of the stars. Yeah, right But we're able to get stuff done and we're pretty we're a really interesting species, right? Raccoons are really a really interesting species And Th then imagine that there's like two hundred humans. Yeah. maybe in like three or four different Total clumps U As the raccoons, we would be like what the flipping heck Look at their ability to collaborate. I'm glad that Evan reminded us that we are a top podcast for people between the ages of seven and eleven so that you could say flip and Heck just there. Fllipp and heck But yeah, no, very weird. But John, let me have make you a proposal What if, humans are rare That's a great point. Humans are really rare, right? Like We're rare in like two dimensions. first in the, you know, it's a big universe dimension and second in the this has been a bit of a blink, especially in terms of there being a lot of us Oh yeah Although Of the humans who have been born about half were born before Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, but a lot at the same time is different from a lot over a long time Not only that Jesus was relatively recently. Oh very You know, in even in the context of human history, we've got two hundred ninety eight thousand years before Jesus and then two thousand years since So ye. Yeah, we're just we are just getting started Yeah, the fact that we even know that guy's name indicates that it wasn't that long ago So true Most of the guys' names, not around Yeah, we don't even know when people started having names really Oh I'm trying to do this research. And I know I made a video about this forever ago and it's you know, Iven't talked about it, but like research takes a while and also I'm the most focused person on whether on how many names we know because I've decided that names are a word. Like John is a word a word for your Johns Yeah John Greene is a word for you And and I am somewhat convinced that some very large portion of the words I know are names Right because I know like to know what the number is. I probably know the name of five hundred footballers Yeah Independent of the five hundred people I know, whose names I know, independent of You know, Troy Svon and Alice Walker. Yeah, ye, exactly. That's a great, That's a great pull, John too get both Alice Walker and Troy Zvan indicates That in fact, John Green knows a great deal of names. I don't want to brag, but that might be the first time that Troy Svon and Alice Walker have appeared in the same sentence. It's possible They don't tend to aeer together. Whatever your mind did to find them both is remarkable. But yeah, I just there's just great artists, you know, but also we got to consider a lot of fictional people like I know who Bill Bob Baggins is, right? And I also know that like the name of the ship in the expanse, the Rosinante That's messed up That That's also a name, kind of. Yeah. I don't remember that. but I remember the USS Enterprise Yeah. Anyway, today's podcast is brought to you by names. Names sixteen minutes in We have a lot of them. Sorry for the early ad break, y'all This padcast. I wasn't ready at all. It's also brought to you by Choice ofvan Tes the fun, whatever he iss up to I bet it's great We are fans genuinely. Yeah, he's a nice guy Today's donon't know bragging. Today's podcast is also brought to you by the Nobel laaureate Hank and I were on the phone with Indeed, Ieed, we're not going to tell you the day of because it may come come to something. Yeah, Right. I mean, we weren't on the phone for fun. We were on the phone for work Yeah, And this podcast was brought to you by Ducks to something All right, Hank, we're back with a question from Emma who writes de, John and Hank, Why are puzzles so satisfying? Surely there's no evolutionary reason why putting little pieces into little perfectly shaped places scratches little itches in my brain. Please Reply by pigeon post or podcast, whichever comes fast as yours Emma. Emma, you are so wrong. Yeah, unfortunately, you're mistaken. That is indeed exactly there is super strong evolutionary impulses to buildild things out of things to find things that have not yet been found to to to take disorder and make it into order Very strong Also just to notice little patterns inside of bigger patterns, right? Yeah, veryer satisfying not just sat it's satisfying because like on an evolutionary scale, that means that you're noticing the edible berry amidst the plant M And you' like That feels good It's like in evolution's best interest to make you like that becauses in evolution's best interest to make you like being alive A least a widittle You know, there's there's evolutionary pressure toward for our ancestors, there was evolutionary pressure toward figureuring stuff out Yeah And not just I think there's still evolutionary pressure on figuring stuff out Yeah. I mean, evolutionary pressure is very weird in the modern era. I can't guess much about it, but U, But yeah It's the reward circuits are there and puzzles Like there all kinds of puzzles, you know, whether it's a crossword puzzle or two thousand piece puzzle or Um You know Yeah, like like reading a mystery novel. All of those things are like they are They're activating that thing that is rewarding about discovering things about the world I also think it's about the reward of building a picture I think it's like an act of it's an aruttistic act It's also think artistic acts go all the way back Thousands of puzzles are like a big puzzle also really fun because it starts out hard and it gets easier and easier as you go. Yeah like every piece you place is one that is no longer in the pool In which respect it is not like life I mean, it's like certain parts of life. I feel like being twenty. harder than being forty five Oh yeah, no, for sure, for sure. There's like pieces of the puzzle that are that are placed, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is something terrible about when you're when everything is still possible When you could still do anything still have any life. It seems like a wonderful feeling, but in fact it gets old really fast. Yeah, and a puzzle is such an interesting metaphor for that because Thank you That's what I was trying to point out But except except that like you can construct the puzzle in like like a puzzle has one one finished product, whereereas when you are constructing the puzzle of your life, you're placing pieces and then you can pick one up and move it and like you never know what the picture is that you're making and you can do it in any number of ways. And it always you'll always think, ah, what if I built it a little bit different Maybe you won't, but I will Can I tell you how I'm feeling right now, Hank? I feel like when you explained my metaphor back to me, it's like when It's like if you went back in time and said to William Shakespeare, like, you know, I think I think Hamlet is about the struggle to make a decision Yeah, well, You haven't won a MacArthur Junior grant, so in heck Maybe your metaphor is not that good. was was build I was building your metaphor. It wasn't that good. I know it wasn't that good, but it's just like the fact that you went and like elucidated it for me when it wasn't that good. I mean, if it had been that good, then everybody would have been like, o no ye Yeah, but no everybody already had it John, can I ask you a question that comes from Aen. Yeah, please. Auden asks Dear Hank and John the other night, my five year old son, my wife and I were talking about how the many mysteries of the ocean, and I asked as a joke Do ocean mammals drink saltw? And then we realized we actually didn't have an answer. So instead of seeking out an instant Googled answer, we tried the old school way of calling our friends and family who might know, that's lovely Yeah To our surprise, no one knew and they were all equally perplexed. So can you help We still haven't looked it up. Pumpkins and penguins Audden not a building castle. Odd Duboi and I speent a lot of time on this and We just kept uncovering more questions Really? Yeah. so you know where a lot of marine mammals get their freshwater Where eating. Ocean life Which is weird because why the fish salty They live in the ocean Yeah And I thought to myself Aur fish salty And then I thought to myself No, I've eaten them. Right? Right So they're definitely not. They're not salty. They're sort of that tastes like fresh water In so far as it tastes like water. Yeah, yeah, you got to salt the fish. down there some o like I've had like crab has a little bit of a salty flavor. Yeah. I've never had an oyster because I'm allergic to shel that kind of fish. that kind fish. Yeah. Maybe, I mean everything's a fish, Hank. That's not true. But there's no such thing as a fish It It's all a construct, buddy Just for clarity, oysters are one thing that are definitely not fish I mean None of the definitions of fish include oyster, though once they did, I think. So live on the ocean Yeah, yeah, there was a time when like a starfish was a fish and a jellyfish was a fish. I mean, hank, there's two broadly speaking, there's two kinds of things. There's fish, which is everything that lives underwater and land I mean, this is very galen of you, you know, this is very like yeah, I'm fine with this. Whit do you hear about my four humors I actually have no idea what Gaben thought about fish. I'm just like guessing. they had weird ideas back in the day. And certainly marine mammals were fish, though Where do you draw the line? Seals? notot really and don't li in there all the time That's true Salamanders. Anyway, go on, go on. How does the fish get the freshwater? It's just like there's a constant battle that in fact, freshwater fish have to increase the amount of salt in their bodies And saltwater fish have to decrease the amount of fish in their bodies And also not fish. Nope, fish. they have to decrease the amount of fish in their bodies I stand by what I said Okay, I've learned anything from being on the internet for twenty years, it's completely doubled down Actually, many fish would like to increase the number of fish in their bodies because they're predators. But it seems like and we weren't able to get all the way down this rabbit hole, but it seems like there's like an optimal amount of salt concentration in our body Which makes sense because there's a lot of like ion gradient stuff going on with cells that makes so that the body works at all of a fish or of a whale And so they all have to like kind of be in a pretty freshwater vibe and there's just a huge amount of life in the oce, like energy of ocean life goes toward decreasing the amount of salt in their bodies And this is true of marine mammals, but it is also true of the fish H P So there are some marine mammals that we willll actually seek out. freshwater, likeike sometimes you'll see manatees going to places where there's freshwater coming into And thenllually like drink there U and but seals will eat snow When it comes to the big ones, we're not a hundred percent sure. We think that they're very good at filtering salt waterater out of their bodies, but they are certainly preferentially trying to find sources of fresh water, which may just often be their food Fascinating. That's kind of how I get a lot of my water is like just eating cantaloops. Yeah, I love I o man, I love a cold liquid explosion in my mouth. justust a watermelon ball A grape big old' grape Cold G about What about gushers that chewing gum that has a little bit of liquid inside? I mean, I'm fine with them, maybe if I chilled them, but I do like the liquid explosion to be cold All right, we got another question Hank. This one's from Michael who says, Dear John and Hank, John always gives Hank a hard time about not understanding optics. I want to be clear, Michael. I alsot understand optics yeah. I think the number of people who understand optics, like the number of people who really understand the details of how a mirror works areact is pretty low. It's pretty low It's that that and nuclear engineers Yeah that some specialized knowledge. But anyway At the same time, John is always very quick to point out that Hank invented two D glasses that render three dimensional movies in two dimensions. But Hank's understanding of optics just peak early or are two D glasses very optically simple My, good sign off. into DE Michael That's good. That's good. Oh God. All right. so The answer is that two D glasses are beyond simple. they're so simple They're so simple. Well, I I'll tell you pitch us your incredibly complicated idea for two D glasses. Three D glasses are not simple. I don't really understand how three D glasses work because it's about polarized light. Light can polarize and you can do a thing to a lens to make it either come through or not depending on the polarization of the light. and by the lens, I mean a plastic film So the way the three D glasses work is that one Of the eyes is polarized in one direction and the other is polarized in another direction. and then the light that is projected onto the screen is polarized into those directions so that one one movie basically gets into one eye and the other movie gets into the other eye and then you perceive the effect of a three D image. In order to get a to the image, you just have to block one of the things on in both eyes like this Yeah like instead of letting one through and the other through you let the same one through both eyes. And so I reached out to a company that makes three D glasses and I said, couldould you make three D glasses that had the same polarization film in each eye. and they replied and said, I mean yes, but that would ruin the three D effect. And I said, perfect They were like, yeah, I mean, we can do it, but it's gonna render a three D movie in crisp two dimensions It doesn't make any dang sense. Yeah. And then Hank sold one hundred thousand of them. Did sell a stupid amount of T D glasses Thanks Did you know that they wanted me to go on Shark Tank with two D glasses? Did they really? They did. They were they were like, come and present two D glasses to the sharks. And I was like, no, no, no, I've seen that show. I know which guy I'd be Yeah. it's like when you when you're not a good singer and they call you back to do the special Yeah audition in front of the judges for American Idol, you're like oh Yeah And honestly, I'm glad I'm not in business with Kevin O'Leary. Let's me no joke, man. I mean Hank can't handle regular capital investors. He can barely handle me as an investor. L The idea of Hank having to handle Mark Cupid is to fail Oh God, what a weird world. So yeah, I said no to shhark tank. They were like, come fly to New York and I was like, that's not happening It's hard to get h on an airplane these days. Any days. It's always been. Yeah, no, even back in twenty fifteen when I was the CEO of two D Glasses I think it was closer to twenty ten. You're right. I don't know when anything happened. It was a long, long time ago. A lot of water under the bridge. You could still buy two D glasses. It's just that three D movies aren't that much of a thing anymore Yeah No, I mean, but if you, you know, they're still available at dFTvA d. com All right, let's answer one more question, Hank before we get to the all All important news from Mars and AFC Wbledon. this is from Martin, who writes deer, John Hank, but mostly Hank. You recently discussed what would happen to Earth if the sun disappeared. You mostly focused on the whole how we would die aspect of it, which is fair. But the whole discussion actually raised a completely different question for me that I now must have answered. So if the sun disappeared, we lose light, but we would also lose our orbit around the sun because the gravity that's pulling us toward it ceases to exist, right? So now we're catapulting through space really, really fast, which seems kind of terrible for a bunch of reasons But it made me wonder if this might lead us to find another star to orbit. Surely if we slingshot it in the right direction, we'd eventually find another bit of gravity to hang onto. Could we survive if we found a star quick enough? How cooked would we be sllingshots and suun starshine, Martina Martina, great thought. We would shoot off And so basically the moment the sun disappeared, that the curvature of spaceetime that it was created would no longer exist And we would move off in a new direction which I think would have no effect on us physically Obviously the sun not being there would have an effect on us physically. Would we still su not reaching us. We would keep on spinning. We would just be moving and there's a very low chance. I mean, I'd probably say practically zero percent chance that we'd run into another planet because they'd all go off shooting in their own directions too And there's might be like a tiny possibility that we'd end up in orbit around Jupiter or something But tiny However, we we're not going that fast Right now In the scale of things, U So so yes, indeed, we would be well dead By the time we ever potentially encountered another star, which would probably never happen, The galaxy is very empty And even if it did happen, we're talking on the order of like tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years. I would actually say more like tens of millions or hundreds of millions of years. would be guess. Yeah So Look, Martina, we're not going to be here for tens of millions of years regardless That's what John thinks We have this site On our first episode of Humans, coming out in one week I feel like I need to be plugging the awayand as hard as you're plugging humans. Probably I should plug my new book Hollywood ending available for preordder now now that I think about it. anyway Um I I don't, I don't I think that there's a lot that can go wrong pereriod. which is the subtitle of John Green's new book, Hollywood Ending I'll he com ending a lot can go wrong. Hey, have you read my book yet by the way? I'm like I'm like forty percent of the way through. it's getting good Oh, great. I'm glad it took one hundred pages to get enjoyable Is that what I read I see you setting the scene. I know what's happening Itroup people. It interesting things happening the whole time, but Yeah But then su it starts to clicking into high gear. Yeah, it's getting messy gets over home him Passy Things can go wrong Things can go wrong the brighter the star The more dangerous the star J D't both. Truopin for both kinds of stars. Yeah All right, Hank, it's time for the all important news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. What's the news from Mars this week? the news from Mars. We've found a strange thing happening in Mars' atmosphere. So the Maven mission in twenty twenty three, scientists looking at data from the Maven mission found evidence of charged particles looking like they were getting squeezed through a tube which is weird. So charged particles can happen in the atmosphere of a planet and do we have on the Earth, we have the ionosphere is a high layer of the atmosphere where the sun is sending high energy particles and it's ionizing molecules from the atmosphere. And Mars also has one of these. And on Earth, we have these ionized particles being squeezed through a tube vibe because we have a magnetic field. And that's what happens. They are being directed by the magnetic field. And I'm like, why would that be happening on Mars? They don't have a magnetic field. by day, I mean, a planet and all of its rocks. Yeah. This has a name. It's called the Zan Wolf effect, which is great. It helps us study solar winds. We've seen the Zan Wolf effect in planetary magnetospheres. We've never seen it in an atmosphere of a planet with no magnetosphere But now we are seeing it in Mars's ionosphere. and this is weird. It turns out that Mars does have like a weak a magnetosphere of a kind that is made of the ionosphere kind of So it's just interactions between solar wind and the ionosphere. Its size and shape change with the solar wind and with space weather. So scientists think that the anwolf effect might always be going on up there, but only does it become observable during certain like solar weather? The exciting bit, this is new physics in Mars' atmosphere that we didn't know was possible And it could become a tool for studying how Mars is affected by space weather I love that we call it space weather. We just a term for this Space weather is a great term Yes There is a World Cup coming. I'm making a podcast about it called the A End Yeah, it is. There's a World Cup coming eight is going to be an interesting World Cup. FIFA has tried very hard FIFA has maybe flown too close to the sun when it comes to charging absurd prices and making it very difficult for people to attend games around the country, around the three countries where the World Cup is happening in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico. It'll be very interesting to see how it all shakes out. but one, former AFC Wimbledon player will, of course, be playing in the World Cup. That's Iraq's own Ali al Hamedy Bye The news from AFC Wimbledon is that you can watch If you live in Southwest London or indeed anywhere in London, you can watch England's games at AFC Wimbledon' Stadium On the big screen at the Cherry Red Record Stadium All three of England's games, it's ten pounds, but your first drink is free So right It's basically free. That's visically free I'm so excited for Ali Al Hamedy. It's so cool that a former AFC Wimbledon player is going to be playing in the World Cup. I mean, that's just That's the big time, Hank. That's as big as it gets. And I know it's going to be a tough tournament for a rock probably and like they they're underdogs in every game. They're going to play and everything, but it's just God, I love the World Cup. I mean It's impossible. It's a whole world It's It's the only thing that most humans pay attention to at the same time. Oh, fascinating It's the only thing we have Yeah where more than half of people are engaged in the same thing And yet not me Well, I still think we can win you over. Oh, for sure. Oh yeah. I mean, I think just's a path. Just watch the World Cup and it'll happen naturally. Just like turn on a game one time and listen to Alexi Lawless and just enjoy the World Cup. You're gonna have to hit my phone with a hammer, but then Yeah, I'll be there. Okay, I've got well, I know you' not a relationship with the phone John, can I read you a We also get what we call responses. We' got a response from someone named Frido Dear Hank and Joh Fredo says, My take and instinct on Doritos as a Frito Lay employee is to look at animals. It is interesting that Frito works for Frito L Yeah Itounds like a strange coincidence. Foods high in fat sodium, sugar, calories in general are often most appealing to animals. You do not have to look hard to see animals putting themselves in danger to get human food, be it seagulls in parking lots, raccoons in the dumpster, or bears raiding cabins. Mammals are especially well conditioned at identifying the signatures of and sugars and food because our brains are wired to reward us when we find it. So I believe any human alive at any time would likely enjoy the junk food that we make today, chips and dips, Frito. And look I do think that there is an amount of bias here As a Freeedoay employee No They agree with me. Okay, well, let me read you this response from Keat, who writes deear John and Hank, but mostly Hank. I am a red bllooded, freedom loving American raised in the honest, hard wororking heartland of our country. For my entire life, I have had access to both turnips and Doritos. and if given an opportunity to choose between the two, one hundred times out of a hundred, I will opt for the turnip Though in the minority, I know what I like to eat, eat So there you go. And that's your argument that all humans would prefer to reco what I said has been refuted by one human. Ergo, you're wrong. And thus the brrotherhood ends. Is not what they called the episode? What a click bay title Yeah Well, look, We're not in charge of that. No, we don't do that. We don't do the time toend there. Don't let us do that. All right, Hank, well, thank you for podding with me. Thanks to everybody for listening. You can email us your questions at hankandjohn at gmail. com This podcast was edited by Linus Oenhouse, It was mixed by Joseph Tuna Metish. Our marketing specialist is Broo Shotwell. 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