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Dots, Lines & Destinations

Dots, Lines & Destinations

ExxonMobil Warning on Oil Shortages

From DLD 589: BoB-ing AroundJun 4, 2026

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I will admit that I'm looking forward to street food and palker stalls. That is possibly the only reason I'm excited. Is there any other reason to go to Singapore A conf erence that people want me at, but you know, go that's more of their deal than mine, I suppose. Yes , that's that's work . Yeah, actually the best reason to go to Singapore is that I'm actually gonna go to Bangkok and get new shirts We're going . You're listening to dots, lines and destinations, a travel podcast with host Stephen Segraves, Ozma Moon, and Seth Miller. Hello and welcome to episode five hundred and eighty nine of Dots Linds and Destinations. I'm Steven Segraves, joined today by Mr. Fazmood and Mr. Seth Miller . Gentlemen. Auday . Saturday morning . It's gorgeous weather here . It's forty five and like borderline sleeping, not quite but rainy. Mount Washington's getting snow today. It's the last it's may thirtieth, we're getting snow in New Hampshire. You guys are getting Oregon weather. That's funny . I'm actually gonna be I'm going to be touching I've never been to New Hampshire. I'm going to be touching New Hampshire in June. Oh, I'm flying into Manchester to drive down to West Boston . That's a choice. It's better it's very far west Boston, I should say. Yeah. All right . Is it even Boston at that point? No, it's not. I just can't say I can't say where I'm going. So West of Boston, not West Boston. Yes, west of Boston. There you go, Faz. Thank you for the correction. American Airlines has hitched their horse to Starlink for WiFi domestically . So it's the Airbus fleet . And so it's mostly domestic they fly a decent amount of regional international as well, but it's airbus single isle only . So the one thing I don't understand is the worst Wi Fi out there is the Panasonic stuff. Why aren't none of the airlines prioritizing that? So VISA America has already announced that it's getting replacing the wide bodies with ISAT . Okay . It's one that's just a and that's a that was announced late last year that's an implementation problem more than anything else at this point Is Panasonic? That's American. Delta has Panasonic as well, or is this someone else? No. Delta doesn't have any American has it for its long haul seven thousand seven seven seventy sevens United has it on some long haul still I think United has on all of its long haul still some of United's newer planes or seventy seven surviv at. Oh, really ? Okay And a bunch it was I'm pretty sure like United's single aisle Airbus fleet was Panasonic at one point. Yeah, that's when converted, I believe . Right. That went to Biasat and side it and we go' toll Starlink . So it's it's interesting to me the American deal mostly because for a long time Starlink only would sell you solution only would sell an airline their solution or partner with an airline if the airline went full fleet . And both Singapore and American have announced deals in the last four or five weeks that are partial fleet, which we'll see if that's just a stepping stone to full fleet or what ? But that's an interesting bit to me, but yes, it's another five hundred planes for Starlink. I mean, it could be that Starlink's just like looking at it and saying, We've got a ton of planes already signed up for this. Maybe we should just hedge our bets on what our actual throughput can be if everybody signed up all their fleets . I don't think they have that sort of mental approach to the situation . So you might have the answer to this. I guess the question that I have is if the Airbuses already have Viaset and the wide bodies are the ones that are supposed to get new wi fi , like why not do the wide bodies with Starlink rather than the airbus So the Airbus fleet is split between SES now, I had run through three different brand names in my mind there from mergers. The two KU system and VISAT . Also, I think just contractual term wise , that's up. And so it was time to make your decision there. Got it. And then it's looking back to my notes, it's been almost ten years since the original SPAT with GoGo an American . So things change quickly and slowly all at once. So according to the UA fleet site, all the White Buddies still have the panicason KU stuff . Okay . I know the first triple seven two hundred under the GE one , the premier continental one is sitting in Rio right now getting a Starlink kit installed. That's fun. Have they still not figured out how to do the seven hundred eighty seven s or is that just requires Boeing to intervene? It requires Boeing . Boeing Boeing Global Services contractor arm Qatar has its first few seven hundred eighty seven s installed . It basically because Boeing won't certify punching extra hol es in the carbon fiber fuselage . They had to figure out a way to put the terminals on standard mounting plate that Boeing uses for basically everything that it puts on a seven hundred and eighty seven . And Boeing is moving towards a fully standardized single installation option for everything everywhere all the time. Anyone wants to platei W fi on a plane . seventy seven, triple seven X and the Max will be the exterior bits will be surprisingly similar . Interesting. Okay. So you basically I guess that's a good thing. Standardization is a good thing. It's interesting in the industry right now. It's Arink seven hundred and ninety one and Arink seven hundred and ninety two are the standards involved with what the mounting plate looks like, where the bolt holes are , you know, how big things can be, what the wiring systems look like . For a while the industry was moving entirely towards if you didn't have Aircraven ninety one or seven hundred ninety two compatibility, you weren't a player as an entertainment manufacturer . And then people showed up and are like, yeah, but ours actually works better and smaller and lighter and easier to install and whatever. And people are like, oh, so there's a whole bunch of manufacturers that have Erin's seventy nine seven ninety one compatible systems that are like, we should probably make a version that's also smaller and easier . And then you get a Starlink that was like FU standards, we don't care about your world . But airlines are like, okay, but we have to install this on a Boeing plane and this is the only way and of sudden Starlink's like, yes, we're standards compliant. We have a model that fits the on Air seven ninety one platform . So yeah, it's the last six months or so have been real interesting on that front . It's funny like all the boring stuff you think the standards like, the boring things in every industry these specifications are the things that make life easy, but at the same time are pain in the ass to read Blue Origin . We talked about Leo for Delta a couple of weeks ago . Delta was going with Amazon's Leo for their Wi Fi and Blue Origin just had an explos ion on the pad . And so do we know the cause? Do we know why? And then what is Delta thinking right now? We don't have cause or any sort of analysis other than it was a big boom . This was a hot fire test, so they fuel it and light it, but don't actually launch it more or less . And all that fuel went boom. It launched. Yeah. and it's doing it without the payload so the satellites are okay, but it clearly puts a kink in the launch schedule at this point moving forward. Yeah. And it is worth noting that this was the return to laun ch for the new Glen Rocket from Blue Origin . They'd just gotten approval from the FAA to try again. And well, oopsy . On top of that, yes there's also ULA, which is one of the other launch operators, is still launching satellites for Amazon . So those like I want to say Friday afternoon like the explosion was Thursday and then Friday there was a launch that actually put another forty something into service. So are into orbit. So launches aren't completely stopped for the Amazon Leo system , but it's certainly was in theory dependent on having New Glen available to continuously, you know, run these rapid launch successions, process, whatever so that they could get the three thousand they need into orbit. And I think they only need like fifteen hundred to get the initial coverage and then they're going to grow. They are well behind Amazon in getting satellites into orbit. Well behind well behind SpaceX is SpaceX, thank you for it. Well, I'm SpaceX and getting satellites in orbit. They have a plan and a whatever . They're trying to catch up. Obviously, blowing up a rocket doesn't help. What? Go ahead, fuzz. I was going to say like I was reading that the blue origin schedule launches are like thirty percent of the satellite capacity that they're supposed to put out there. So that has to be a substantial impact . Yeah . And there's also some weird stuff around it's not just the timing of when the constellation will be available and you know have enough coverage to deliver service to users , but also like when you go to build a satellite constellation, you announce to the world that you're going to do so and you apply for rights to certain spectrum through the ITU International Telecommunications . You get your ITU application in to have authority to use the spectrum and there's sequences and priorities and things like that . And if you don't hit targets of deployment , they delay you. If you get delayed on your deployment targets, they can give that priority to someone else. So you'd be like, hey, we're putting up a global constellation. No one else should do that because we're going to have priority. And assuming you put it in place, no one else can interfere with your radio communications . But someone else could be like, all right, well we want to be the backup . And if you miss your deadlines that in theory ITU hands over that capacity to or those priority rights to the backup. And let's just say Amazon Leo ain't hitting its targets based on the way things are going right now. What about what about Delta? Do they think they regret their decision? Or do you think they're kind of sitting back? I mean, you said that they only really need fifteen hundred of these satellites to get coverage . What if fifteen hundred is still a lot you launch them fifty ish at a time so you need . And I might be having those numbers slightly wrong, but you're going to need a steady pace of like a launch a week at some point to get to a functional network. They've got seventeen or eighteen months and they want to twelve, eighteen months, they want to get there. And so yeah, not great. But I think the challenge there for Delta's sort of , you know , it was a big deal for Amazon to sign that contract, certainly get a big name. It's the second airline committed Jet Blueis first on a small subset of its fleet, Delta also on a subset of its fleets similar to American doing sort of domestic is only . And so that helps in terms of coverage footprint . Long story like getting to full polar coverage takes longer usually for these constellations . It's lower priority . And so does Delta regrettes decision? It was something for two years from now anyways and I would imagine they got a decent deal based on being a big name being willing to announce it. So I don't know they regret it yet , but I think that there's certainly some questions and if things change, the good news is they can always switch. Like you're not you have a contract, but the contracts these days have enough outs. The other thing I will say is the there was a whole bit between much like with Ryanair , Musk went after Delta talk calling them idiots and saying that they don't know what they're doing and blah blah blah. And just I don't know, that's not the type of person I like to do business with. Yeah, I mean it makes sense to me. I mean no one's flying no one's really flying polar right now, right? So that's not a big deal. US airlines and European airlines aren't flying polar right now. Yeah. Qatar is, Emirates is. True. And they want that service. Tuche . Denver, exciting news at Denver. Something we have said should happen at Denver forever . They're getting walkways between the concourses. They are taking a dis used tunnel or I guess unused tunnel and turning it into walkways for passengers . Have you seen the price tag on this? How much is it? I read seven hundred million dollars . For an already existing tunnel ? Well, they have to close off all the hidden chambers down there, right? Okay, but that's like a stack of sheetrock and some paint. That's what I was gonna say. I can get some drywall for seven hundred million dollars . I can even get people legally certified to work on airports that cheap. Like yeah. Well, maybe we need to start a construction business on the side. I was thinking we needed to start fake airline to bid on Laguardia slots, but whatever. Dots lines and destinations could be the name of the construction company. I mean, yeah, it's not unheard of. Some stupid or thing . I feel like, I mean, this is good I think it's good news for passengers. The train, I was reading the stats, like the train is broken, I don't know, like once every twenty five days or something . Way more than that more than that. I think Ned Russell posted this. I think his story said that it broken like two hundred times in the last year . Wow. And maybe it's, you know, how long it was broken for and whatever, who knows in each of the scenarios, but like it's a lot of documented outages. Yeah , yeah. People are like, well, we'll finally get to see the Illuminati or something down there. So like it's why was it not built with the tunnel to begin with is a big question, right? Who in the right mouth ? Like there's no extra track that they could run trains on, right? The trains run at a capacity. Like most of the last few times, I hate going to Denver because if you have to connect and change concourses, you just don't know if you'll get on a train or how long you'll wait. Well, I mean, I think it used to be that no one was expected to change concourses. It was like southwest is all in what is that A? No. C. C. United's in B, and then the international stuff was all in A. Yeah, but now United's in A and B . Yep . Yeah, kind of yeah, it's it's a much busier airport now than it was when it was built and this is one of the interesting ones. I mean, we were all alive when it opened, right? Like it and like it was a big deal when they opened it. It's also a little funny to me because that they're using the baggage corridor stuff that that turns out to be the savior for a tunnel because for those of us who have been around long enough to remember, the baggage handling system at official opening was a disaster And I can't remember if they actually delayed moving from Stapleton there because of it or just things were bad for a little while at the beginning, but the original baggage system like they went to turn the airport on and the baggage system didn't work and it was a debacle. At least it wasn't the fire extinguisher system. Yeah, the lights that you could turn off of our limbs. Yeah . We forgot to put a light switch . Yeah, I think it's cool. I think this will be good. It'll make I think it'll make Faz connect. I wonder if they'll put in moving walkways or if they're going to make it like LAX where it's like no you're gonna walk to your legs fall off . I mean I hope hopefully it's LAX like 'cause that seems like a bomb shelter right down there This is one of those things that Ned Raise and he wrote a little bit about it on his substack. I think I can try to put a link into the show notes if I remember . It was like what is it? What does it take to make a good tunnel experience? And there are some that are, you know, we everybody talks about the United Concorse at O'Hare , right? Because they got Rhapsody and Blue Playing and the lights dancing. There's a similar at Detroit . Salt Lake City has a new tunnel now between its two nuke peers and they get like the LAX experience or lack thereof Heathrow heathrow th T five is actually somewhere in between in my mind mostly because it's so empty. Like the number of times I'm down there and I'm the only one . I mean LA LAX depending on the time of day, you can be the only one depending on where you're where you are . LAX is just like, I feel like people get into the LAX Tunnel and they're like, I'm in the wrong place . The challenge with the LAX tunnel is like the paint is like render's beige for most of it. You get between five and six and you still have all the delta signage without the Delta logo. Right? Like just it shows that they put no effort into it . And then like the icing on the cake is the blast doors . Yeah . What happens if these clothes? Why are these here? What happens to me if these clothes are down here ? Yeah, it's very, it's very true. And I think the then you get to like what is it America is an American terminal? Is it five? And they have like the new hallway that they've built and you're like, oh, this is nice. And then it goes into some like exposed wall and you're like, wait, am I going the right way? And if you miss a sign, you end up going the wrong way, for sure Americans also don't you like you can accidentally end up in a tunnel to exit. That's that's exactly what I mean. Like if you go the wrong way, like you're back outside of security. Yeah. And you're like, oops . Atlanta also like big train between the planes, but also a nice tunnel system that you can walk. And they've done a good job putting like art and museum stuff down there . It's it is always interesting to me like the BA TFI, whatever heathrow I've been through a lot lately and it's I like that walk. It's nicer to me than taking the train just because I know I'm going to be either just got off plane for six a hours pl orus I'm about to be on a plan e for six plus hours. And so I enjoy the walk . But the spacing of the terminals, you know, if you could walk from the ABPR to CD ullus, would you? And it's a long way. It's a long it's a long way. Right? Those are they spaced more than the Atlanta terminals? Like you start getting into some of those thoughts. Even from the train drop on that it's a temporary terminal , Steven. I know, but it's still a long walk . I'm trying to think of other places with I mean, what do you think about T two at Heathrow? I know you don't go through T two that much, but I would say that's worse than T five . Do you think so? I just think it's like kind of it's dark . I mean T five is terribly dark. T five is like weird weird purple accent lighting? Yeah, that's true. It might be worse. It might be worse. The thing I don't like about T five is that the walkway is on a different level than the train and there's you have to take the elevator to get to it. That I would agree with, yeah. They make it hard to get to the walkway. They make it hard to get to it when you're out in five B and five C, there is an escalator. Yeah, but we're at the main terminal. Yes. In the main term, you have to go. Also though, the elevator's way faster, so you should always take the elevator keep s you it's a from departures level quote unquote to the to the train is four flights . Yeah, I mean I mean it is minus two and then it's another two flights down to the tunnel. That's even true at T two, right? Like if you come out at baggage claim Yeah, and then you go across the street , it's most people the problem is I don't want to wait at the elevators because they're just a mess of people at Two. And so I'll just take the escalator, but coming back up, it's definitely faster because people don't use the if you take the Elizabeth line and you come up, it's much faster to just take the elevator. So yeah . Anyway, any other good tunnels listeners, tell us, tell us what tunnels were missing . Any if anyone mentions Frankfurt banned , it's great to embark. Is the tunnel of Cleveland still there or did they finally close it? I know the one of Pittsburgh is gone, right? Cleveland's exists because they haven't knocked down the road terminal, but nobody can go out there . Should we talk about that? Should we talk about Cleveland and United and how they're bringing some flights back? Are they really? Yeah , they announced two routes. What are they from? Las Vegas and Miami and Las Vegas . Mini hub is back . Okay . Ed will be connecting there soon to get to Vegas. Scott Kirby now says that it's only doing mergers with airlines that are interested, not ones that he has to do it, you know, just for talking about. So I mean, he is a weird dude. I mean, we'll talk about this more on the aftershow, but he's yeah, he's saying a lot of shit lately. Anyway, Alaska is making Exit Rows premium class, which is their more paid for economy their what they call economy plus on their seven hundred and thirty seven s basically . Yes. And so it typically comes with like a free drink, I think. And it's got more legroom. That's the big thing. And so they're making their exit rows, which used to be just preferred seats. So if you were any elite level with Alaska, you could book those or you could get those at booking . The nation of teeth has begun and people are already saying, well, their website claims that any person, any elite level gets these seats. And I'm like, well, they just haven't updated the website and they're already filing DOT reports. So congratulations. You made them up at the website. Wait, any elite gets a premium clash seat? No, any elite gets the it says on their website explicitly, do get the exit row seats or for any elite level . So this is just right on the website. Yes . And then they've also switched their inflight meals , switched the Hawaiian inflight meals to buy on board. It's kind of a that was a little surprising to me. I mean, not surprising, a little disappointing It's okay because they've got it's an elevated experience with pre order dining by celebrated Hawaii chefs and fresh food. James Beard award finalist chef Sheldon Simeon brings Hawaii's flavors on board with a new locally inspired main cabin menu . And so is this for any Hawaiian destiny like any route out of Hawaii? Starting I'm going to just kind of read the chunk of the press release starting july first guests in main cabin on most flights between Hawaii and the US continent will enjoy pre ordered meals from a fresh chef curated menu available for purchase. That's kind of crazy. I mean, those are long flights. What's interesting is Hawaiian has oh, they want to make sure that you know that it's made prepared with fresh local ingredients made no more than twelve hours before each flight . Great . So that's the timing on them. The other interesting thing about it is they're talking about they have their like the Club forty nine's they have a version for that for Hawaii also. You can sign up and basically like I'm a Hawaiian. I'm not a atmos rewards member, but I live in Hawaii so I'm special . And if I'm reading through this trying to find yes Huakai by Hawaiian members enjoy their first two meals as part of the program for free . So they're basically like you get one round trip free but then you're screwed and only if you become a member by june twenty fourth . Hm . I think I mean this is, I think this is a it's a bad look, honestly . Those are long flights . Also, breakfast is sixteen dollars . Yeah, ain't at the airport, people, even in Hawaii . But is it that surprise? I mean, Transcons, you pay . It's the same distance as a trancon. For some of them, yes . Yeah All domestic Hawaiian flights excluding JFK, JFK state doesn't get it up to twenty hours prior to departure . So it's not surprising, Fawz, you're right, but it is, I think, disappointing it was a differentiator for them Yeah but you can't have that at the risk of being cynical do differentiators actually really matter what people are buying on price. Meals at mealtimes baby . What is really a differentiator anymore ? I mean I guess maybe they saw that there was a lot of waste that could have been and so they're I don't know , I just don't think people buy thinking that they're going to get a free meal anymore . I think people are price driven at this point, unfortunately. I think you're probably right in most cases. I think where it hurts a little or it ch'allsenging a little is for the people who are used to having a meal because you have been flying like if I showed up, I would have been surprised that Hawaiian gave me a meal because I wouldn't have thought I wouldn't have expected it. I don't think about it. I would have probably brought my own anyways but someone who flies Hawaiian you know back and forth between the mainland all the time , you know, they're obviously they're trying to get out a little bit ahead of it, but it's only a month out trying to get that publicity out there, but like someone who does it all the time shows up one day like what do you mean I don't get a sandwich anymore? Well, can I buy one? No you can only buy a snack box of shelf stable shit like you had to pre order the meal and that 's the part and we there was a little bit of a conversation about this online also in the last week or so about pre ordering meals and that experience. And airlines talk about doing it to cut waste. I think that's does happen, but is not the reason they're doing it . The airlines aren't accounting for irregular operations in that. And that's probably the biggest blind spot . Like if you buy a meal and your flight gets missed or cancelled , you don't get your meal and you have to go fight for a refund . Or you're a business passenger, you know , last minute trip and you buy the ticket six hours out from departure on your way to the airport and it's a transcon and they're like sorry you don't have any food today. Asking how I know I did I did fight I was in San Diego for work a while back and I booked o hadriginally a jetue fl Bl ight home and the Jeep Blue flight was at two in the afternoon and the Alaska flight was at eight thirty in the morning and I wanted to get home earlier. I cancelled the jealous flight about the Alaska flight, but I couldn't get a meal because I did the day of . Yeah, I mean, I think that's like the biggest downside is not being able to get a meal inside that twenty four hour period in most cases. And when you get on board, you're like, oh, I am going to be hungry. Like even if you're running late like the through airport and you didn't order something because you're like, oh I'll buy something at the airport and then you're stuck because whatever there was traffic . It's a it's a pretty it's a pretty crappy experience. Oh, we've got, you know, again, shelf stable stuff or heavy salt stuff or whatever. And here's a heart attack box. Would you like one? Yeah I think that's the biggest downside. I get I get some of the reason the airlines do it. They're just like, hey, we want to have this already set to go . And it's better food . Yeah . Like the paid food is better when you're paying seventeen dollars for excuse me seventeen dollars for the crispy Mochico chicken and garlic noodles by Chef Sheldon. That is better food than you used to get in the like whatever was free box of sl op. Yeah , yep. I'm with you . I just want to go back to the Arasia model. What's that? The meals were like two dollars each, there's fifty to choose from and they're all delicious . I was surprised on my flight from Singapore to Jakarta on, I don't know what time that was what time was that Faz it was late, right? It was in the evening, right? Yeah, it was like ten eight PM ten PM I don't know , but the number of people who ordered meals on Scoot , like most of the plane. Yeah , instead of sleeping instead of just not caring. Yeah. I mean, I guess on that little hour and a half flight, they were like, Well, we need to eat . So it does pass the time. Yeah, I'm laughing. I laugh a lot about this when I did this with Blanea in twenty nineteen, late twenty nineteen, we were down there and I hope we flew Singapore , Kualumpur . Can't remember where we finished somewhere to start a trip through Asia. Oh Katman Du h. And I think it was on the first segment of it. I pre ordered all the meals. When I don't say the all meals , I think I had just an hour and a half flight. And I think I ordered six things for the two of us . And the flight attendant started bringing them over and like bringing the first one over and then goes back to the gallery and like comes back and is sort of holding stuff in her hands again and staring at me. I'm like, it's okay. We'll open more trade tables. Like there's I think I ordered them all for me and then she's like, how are you gonna fit? Oh, don't worry, she's gonna eat with me and I opened up Lenna's trade table and start finging the food down somewhere I have a photo of that and they'll see if I can find it. The fat white guy up there is ordering a lot of food. What the American American, let's go hold off on the fat, Steven. The muscular white guy up there. Gring guy up front . Anyway have we have we served him too much? Are we over serving him? Anyway , Exil Mobile is a warning of severe oil shortages in the next few weeks. So this was their CEO, I believe, coming out and saying this. And I kind of I kind of passively posted this. I mean, I think this is a sign that things are about to get really interesting. When ExxonMobil makes the statement , that's a little different than like a country or an entity saying , you know, we're low on oil. This is a refiner, one of the largest manufacturers of produced goods in the world from oil saying things are going to get expensive . And their explanation was basically that people are just drawing down inventories for and like we've got strategic petroleum reserve releases happening and that that's going to have to stop at some point, right? Yeah The only part of that I'm less certain of is the SPR because at least in the US, the SPR has a ton still in it, and they're not releasing that much daily, but are they releasing any right now or are they like choosing certain weeks to release from the SPR, which is the strategic reserve in the United States for everybody I thought they were releasing, but I would have to double check I think they are. I just don't know if they're doing it daily or if they 're like they basically are kind of doling it out as stock goes down in certain areas of the country. Yeah. have to read more, but it's I mean, it's it's kind of crazy. Like four hundred million barrels have been released to try and lessen the impact of the disruptions it's kind of crazy across the world. Yeah , two to three weeks is what he's saying though. So yeah Brent crewed up to one hundred and sixty of barrels the prediction it's below one hundred right now it's running like ninety four ninety five so that's you 're looking at like nine dollars a gallon gas if that happens. Yeah . Crude oil per the US Energy Information Administration, crude oil in the SPR is at three hundred sixty five million barrels as of may twenty second down nine million barrels from a week prior and down forty million barrels from a year prior. So with three hundred m sixtyillion, they can put out, you know, they can release ten million a week for a while a while. That's just topping people up basically, like on their reserves. So I'm sure there's like some stuff coming from the Tar Sand still in Alaska that's feeding some of these refineries, but it's not good. Honestly, I would look at if you're looking at buying a ticket for the summer or just past the summer, I would buy the ticket now to be perfectly blunt . So that's just my my take . I am not a lawyer, but that's what I would recommend. Or a travel agent or a travel agent, but that's just my two sides. Yeah. Somehow we're also still importing five million barrels a day Well, when was the last data refresh and when was the last import ation? This week? May twenty second , last week. Could be Venezuela . That or it's Canadian. They consider Canadian oils imports. Sure , which I would think that's what it is . Yeah . So we're going to talk about delayed sunrise , some awards and partner issues that Seth has run into Swiss adding a new destination , Kirby's comments along with some threatened threat threats from the administration on imports and immigration and yeah, all that. So if you're a patreon supporter, stick around for that. If not, thank you for listening. We will talk to you next time. Happy Travel s . Go, take care . Let's see the lake there

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