The Necessity of Whistleblower Protection

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Um, and, you know, there's that The reason why it's coming up more is because Lozondo could potentially be the You are fld Car and um, You know because of that Ross Calhard basically said, you got to be up frront with everybody about what you really did if this is going to be the case because people got to trust you So he was on Chris Cuomo, Lu Alzondo U and responding to that. So this is a longer clip. that we're going to show here. and it's pretty detailed. So I want to discuss it play the clip from News Nation and then then we get into it Cck it out Pentagon UFO whistleblower Lou Elizondo is the real deal. okay? He spent years of his life in service And he has been the tip of the spear in fighting for transparency Now I'm hearing something that I don't understand and I don't like, but I've got to talk about it Investigative journalist Ross Cltart who I also like and respect. And he's been on this show many times with Lou is now saying something that I don't know if he's just looking for clicks. I mean, he gets plenty anyway covering new APs, but he said this But I think Lou needs to be more forthcoming about his past roles. There are people who bitterly resent and don't think it's a good idea that Lou be appointed to a position of power in UAP transparency because they think that he was part of a previous agenda that was essentially to try to control the narrative to restrict what the public is entitled to know about the UAP disclosure. I've spoken to people in the Legacy prorograme Who' kn you L B I know a lot of people and they know you And I know you can't speak about the role that you've held within the leegacy program But you do Luel Lzondo. now, your response Look, I think Ross is an excellent investigative journalist. Personally, I like him. I think he's done tremendous work. for disclosure and where we are today in the conversation I find it interesting that just weeks ago, according to someone's social media, I had nothing to do with the UFO program or the Pentagon or ATP. And now apparently, I ran everything involving UFO's and the legacy program. So I don't know exactly where Ross is getting his information. I suspect he has sources U reallyally, that's notot really my concern. I've always had a lot of respect for Ross For me, any chance I get to talk about disclosure and transparency, lookook, I've dedicated the last ten years of my life. being forthcoming with the American people about the reality of UAP UFOs. In fact, one only has to look at my resignation memo for the record that I wrote to Secretary Mattis, James Mattis at the time. You know, I've committed myself to transparency to the degree that I could. It is true that I have that's the space That's the space, Lou, right Because up til that point, I think Ross would agree with everything you just said until right here But you were in the leegacy program, You've never really talked about it. Is that because you can't And if you can't, do you think it's fair for us to say, well, then you still should? Yeah, well, first of all, I didn't say I was part of the legacy prorogram. And let me make this clear too, Chris, and I'm sure you can appreciate this. When you work for the government and you have a security clearance, there's always these statements you we cannot confirm or deny. And people always take that as some sort of implicit yes. But the reality is that's not at all what that means. There are classified programs out there. And if someone were to ask me, Lou, were you part of, I don't know, Project X with the M one Abrams tank, Even if I wasn't, if it's a classified program I would have to sayt I can't discuss that. In fact, I can't even acknowledge that. And for those of you in your audience that have security clearances, they will relate to that tremendous. And so I think it's important a lot of times people infer things, especially in the world of social media and where people like yourself, you might say something that gets taken out of context or I say something that's getting taken out of context. and all of a sudden, it kind of grows legs, if you will and starts to take on its own life The truth of fact is that I've always been very clear. I worked in a program called ATIP. I have committed myself for the last ten years of my life for truth and transparency to the American public. and at the same time, if Me being on this program we're talking about me, Lou Elizando, instead of disclosure And I have an opportunity to use this in order to raise awareness about the reality that our government has been involved in this topic for decades. that's a small price toay. I'm willing to do that. And by the way, again, for the record, I think Ross is an excellent investigative journalist. No I get it. I get it. You're not trashing, Ross I get no, no no, I consider you a friend And I appreciate you clarifying it And look, Ross can put meat on the bones of what it is he wants to talk to you about specifically. and you can do it right here if you both want. There's so many ways to that you can look at that clip and say, you know The skeptical side of things s what is he supposed to say? Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from MitMobile. Now I was was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited preremium wireless for fifteen dollars a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made fifteen dollars bills, but it turns out That's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at midmobile d. com slash switch. Upr payment forty five dollars for three months, ninety dollars for six months or one hundredyllars for twelth plan required fifteenllars a month equival to taxes and beess extra, initish plan term only greater than fifty gigabyes and slow netork busy t is right You know, he's right. He investigated And I should come clean worked this program. I'm going to break all the protocols that I have been protecting for this long and S cats out of the bat. I mean, it's not realistic. U I think it's more telling than He is saying Look, I respect Ross. He's a great reporter I don't know where he's getting his sources from, but you know, I didn't really necessarily say ' what he did say. He said, I never said I was part of the leegacy program He didn't say m I wasn't part That's not true. It wasn't part of it. danced around it a bit and said, Look There's times I can say I can't confirm or deny, but that could be things that, you know Any other program someone asked me about, but he never says definitively It's not true. It wasn't part of it Wasn't part of it, faction can sayays, I don't know where he's getting his sources from. I don't know what he's saying but look I I never said I was part of it didn't Rost never said you say you were a partner. That was the whole point said that he knows that that you were. it's more information. Interesting because as Cuomo says Lou Alzondo and Ross have appeared on many shows together many times. So the one thing I will say, if they are close and they were friendly that You know, it didn't Bross is a reporter and I guess his job comes first over this particular friendship. but it shows to me that they weren't that close because Ross you know, to if I if I was Lou and I was friends with Ross I would expect a conversation of like, hey listen I'm hearing these things. If you want to come on and respond to it, you can but I'm bringing it up today And I'm going to bring it up So just be careful on the response. M maybe he did do that. I don't know. But Ross hass been talking about This after Lose has been defending himself or responding rather And this is what Ross had to say. I did want to clarify that I don't think that anything that Lou has said publicly to date has in any way challenged the veracity of what we are saying. Lou has been very careful to neither confirm nor deny his past role in the legacy program. And I respect him for doing that. He's a national security operative who's basically, well, he was a national security operative, who's operating under constraints and he can't reveal past roles that he's secured ab buy under NDAs and national security oaths I do think that at some stage there needs to be an acquittal in the public arena where if especially amnesties are offered If especially exemptions from NDAs are offered, it's time for People like Lou to come forward and say exactly what they know Stickking to his guns As he should And hes said, lookook, he isn't said anything that, you know was and he's being very careful to say it because because he needs to. Essentially what we just said A little while ago. If he's part of these programs, he can't just say it as Ross hinted at down the line there was Look This is the whole point of people getting protection And when that comes that you're not going to have an excuse anymore to say, well, I can't say anything anymore I don't have protection And it goes back to me a moment that I've mentioned a thousand times over here and that's the moment of it was a twenty twenty four hearing when they asked them Katsk if he was going If he was going to testify, he's saying, no, way got to protection. There's no reason for me to do that. Because if I do that, I'm screwed with it comes to overall protection for my family when it comes to money when it comes to my overall, you know livelihood, it doesn't make sense And that always made sense to me