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So they're running into bowl and I'm going, oh, it's interesting to skippers' bowl the top end and you yourre bowling this end because you know, you're only get dropped on you. love it. That's Tnders. Listen now on BBC Sounds. G well Hello everyone. I woke unusually late this morning, having been up through the night in my summerhouse slash media hub, hosting a multi oom between the International Monetary Fund, cabinet officials, and the oututdoors retailer Millets. And whst the British political landscape and international monetary affairs remain complex, It did secure a twenty percent discount on a new pair of Merl Moab Speed two hiking boots But it had taken its toll and the clock was inching towards nine AM My PA Sam stepped into my room cautiously Morning, Sam, I said. What's on the agenda? Sorry to rush you, George. She looked at the clock, now striking nine. Mr. Robbins, But Britain needs you now Britain has needed me for decades, Sam. I'm here to serve. No, Matt Britain needs you. He's got himself in a heck of a flap. Ah, the BBC in crisis again. The Cosworth is outside ready to go. Okay, good. I'll shower. Do you have my efficiency shake? Yes She said with a smile and handed it to me, Where would I be without you, Sam? And I took a deep gulp. For moments like this, my efficiency shake was a concern. Two scoops of protein powder, one of crereatine, a slice of buttered toast, veggim mite, raspberry jama bar, banana and two fried eggs. just the ticket Half an hour later I was rushed into the BBC director General's office and his PA briefed me. He's been up all night with Olaf, the Belarusian guess who grandmaster. I don't think he's slept. Trying to keep the mind occupied no doubt. I'll handle this I entered his office Richard is gone. Claire is gone. Eric no longer wears a hat Brittain Rcks in his chair wide eyed. But Eric is a sailor. Eric is clean shaven. Eric has short blonde hair. Get with the program, Matt. They updated it in twenty eighteen. Eric is a sailor no more. Where' alla from? Eric is clean shaven Eric has short black hair. Eric look like sort of millennial who does yoga, uses the word boundaries four times in his field profile, and is polyamorous as a cover for never considering the feelings of others. And Maria? Maria with her long brown hair and green bet. Maria's dead, I said calmly. Matt, things change. Pople change. Guess who had to change? Robins, thank God you're here. Catastrophe. It's the only word for it. Well, you can't spell catastrophe without top rate cash. What's the deal A million grand for you and Eister h strictly. Dave too, but he's upstairs I in the Davitorum. I know what's happened here. Someone has sent you footage of Ellis's performance at the Pontypool Distant Pod showhow. What do you know about that? Yes, his French rugby leeague rumber moved me to tears. How someone could make a subject so boring, not only tender but sensual I'm speechless I was moved. John, I was horny And what of Dave? Have you seen? Yes, I've seen the bodycam footage. His laugh and gas fox trot has gone viral. Even the arresting officer was impressed. Yes, I think he'd have got done for intent to suppupply if it wasn't for that John strictly needs you. country needs you Everyone knows you're the best dancer in the world I hate you can hold space for your panic, but we're not the men for this job. Please, John, please. Matt, the world has moved on. The BBC has moved on. Ellis Dave and I are in many ways like old guess who We're Richard, Claire and Maria' Beret Ellis likes sport. He likes history, he likes the history of sport and the sport of history. And Dave You think moving five live to Salford is what's propping up the Northern powerhouse? No, it's his fleet of a thousand mopeds delivering Echys from buried hand forth And me? I've got the IMF on my back and starmer at my door. You need fresh blood, new ideas. We have a cinematic universe now. We've moved on But a million grand, John. Matt, in our next video, we visit a bigick factory and I ask one of the staff what the biggest pen is.. That's worth more than a million grand. That's priceless. Oh wow, sounds amazing. When does it drop? Well, I could tell you, but we'd have to cut this from the Sounds podcast What of strictly, Where do I turn? Who will present it Guess who? I said. and handed him a slip of paper with three names written on it. Josh Whiddakom, Emma Willis, and Johannes Radivi Very nice, John. Wow are the origins? Although I must admit, obviously we talked at length in this podcast about how much Tim Davy liked Calipos And then that broaden to more general sort of freezer treats. Yeah It does make me wonder how many director generals we will survive on this show. Because now obviously Britain's into, I mean, his games is his name B Gamames Board games, brckets, general. He's a big game head I do often wonder when Britain goes, willill it be? Will we have gone first? Will we've been sacked for her insubordination?? Was Davy the DG when we first were on five Live I don't quest I don' think he was actually Oh my go with the cockroaches are broadcasting three DG's Dave. did Dave. L it up Dave. And how many prime mininisters since we started X That would be terrifying Well, twenty fourteen, so it would have been C Cameron. Yeahah, Cameron and Cleg and then Cameron. Oh my God Yeah, as the Dave he only started as director genereral in twenty So who's before that It was U Tony tony Hogs. Not Tony Hogs. skateboard. doing all these all the way down the stairs. They go down well, I imagine. So what prime mininisters have we survived? Cameron, May, Johnson Truss Sunak Stara TBC. Six. Yeah. Is that it? It feels like it could be more than that.ould be chuck a couple more Tories in They won't notice. They might have been. Oh, no they. We're the great survivors Yeah, that's really But That's gladdened my heart. Has it? hasas it? You can rely we are more reliable than the Pime Minister. I'm going say we come under slightly less scrutiny No Really? I've been on the Reddit page. Yeah. You don't see the emails popping in. No, that's true No it's u What a run? What a run. That's thats that's good. That's I'm very, very pleased with that And anyway, how are you, Dith I'm Allood. How are you, John? Well, what a week it's been in many ways. I got a new bed Did you? Yeah, and I realized something slightly embarrassing. Oh yeah. When the bed arrived I couldn't get the drawers open Why night. because it's got two under bed drawers. Yeah Oh sorry. So I thought Oh too close to the wall or something or No J just the drawers were no. Oh right, okay. So I thought bloodsy Massak C't open theid drawers And then I realized that Divan bed bases have like a flap of material Yeah And that material they sort of stapled to the bottom to hold them in place. Understood. A bit like when on a suit, your pockets are sewn up. Yeah ye And I realized on my previous bed I'd had those flaps trailing out like along the floor because I thought they were a decorative I thought they were decor. skir thing that goes around the side of a bed, like a big long valance. Well, like no, because they come down I think you're meant to chop them off. Oh Well you did' not like it that clear. And you'd then left them unchopped. Yeah for fifteen years. So what was the state of them by the end? so fraid and tatty, but I thought maybe you folded them into the drawer to sit on top of your towels or whatever. But I did feel a little bit of a silly goose, I must say. Oh yes. We had that It's really occasionally, even when you're in your forties, the three of us are There'd be something that everyone else worked out twenty five years ago and you didn't Yeah And it's quite embarrassing. alsoso got U, I was doing I was speaking at a law firm ? Yeah script intro again. We did a corporate event. I was doing an engagement at a law firm don't just fly did you jam your fm in a window? like I did before I did the Admirald Insurance stauffff General meeting? No Were you there for comedy or there for law. H you bled on your suit andnt I was in bed? No, I was just there to inspire the next generation of solicitors barristers. So Oh is. So which You more booked as a practical joke here? Do they want a did they want a tight ten from a comedian or did they get you there for your gravitas in Good question. L. Was it my gravitas or was it my comedy Have you had any feedback from this Please. Js go through our agent. Yeah. what did they say about it? They said they They say you've got the review b by a mean person with a head and agenda I just went to be interviewed in front of a lot of the te. Interview yeah I fver lear about what KCs. Yeah, yeah. But what would do they make of it? ust me. I did by myself. There people like leaving half wayay through? No, people were joined from all over the world on Like And like a big zoom. Like clients, corporate clients. Becauseuse you're good with your tax stuff. Are good Are you big in laws Are you big in the law scene? I have I offer fresh takes. Do you? So on the British legal system That' the first time I've heard of it take on It was suggestive. I said, guys The laore is an ass next question Well we should do a patrion special from the old Bailey. Johnald Turn Hey I could get us in now. Beause I'm you know, I'm a big mover and shaker amongst judges, magistrates. Absolutely bonkers. L bought your book tour? It was adjacent to that time. Okay. Okay, start. okay. It was I was being interviewed about my book. fine in front of, you know, a lotord of solicitors and lawyers and cC's a lawyer because I offer different angle into the British legal system.one with a forensic mind. Yes. Interviewed you about your old book. Yeah. I would implaud with the nerves if I was going to be interrogated by a solicitor or a barrister. They weren't trying to find me guilty been cross examined. Why didt you say I would have paid one hundred thousand million grand to watch this? Would you? I think the video is probably available then I could get hold of it privately. Well, I will be watching that tonight. U But anyway, in the little room they little they turned into a green room for me. It was obviously one of their meeting rooms where they sort of talk about I don't know. cases cases yeah. They had a tap Right? You know it Instant hot water tap. Yes. This was an instant Espresso, Americano, filter coffee, tea and hot chocolate tap I've never seen one of those. I know. over a sink. Like it's just a normal tap.'s a machine then, because obviously a beans c hid a machine, workings of the building. So how do you Pil what happens when you run out a coffee beans? All automatic someow I mean, I'm sure someone somewhere is filling up coffee beans, but it's literally one tap That's am amazing. And loads of cups and there's a little like iPad And you just dress wh you want and it comes out. That's nuts And there was a drawer full of pens. They still loasted ye.. N' impressive. They're really good pens though. There' still ten pens in the old Bati N su That's hilarious. Oh It's like when Ross goes to hotel room. Yes, I did think of Ross Yeah, great day. But I suppose that tap, it's just that's because you would see a machine that would do. Why are you writing your signature with your new pen, J? Because have a go on that pen. You can tell it's good You can look at the weight, look at the grip, look at the lovely matte black you writing on this Lovely pen. Yeah, yeah, yeah V it very nice yeah Hide love to watch John being cross examined Yeah. like Bill Clinton and the and Monicaewinsky line trial that would be so funy to me. I had my very first massage On Monday No of myself? Hell are you talking about? I'd injured myself and been to a physio and been manipulated. Okay But I've never had the, let's oil him up and massage him massage. So are we talking What smooth pebbles on the back and whale music? are we talking sports massage that is actually one of the most painful experiences of your life? Painful sports massage. I love them. I've never ared them before. It is a very intimate experience Yeah, it can be. Oh what have gone? Well in you sort of you just Where did you find this person I mean, is eas the bund from him, I think, because u He's got the strongest thumbs in London. It's like he was trying to pop spots in my hamstrings. Oh goodness. And I yeah. so like I said, I hurt my knee a couple of years ago I went to phhysio then and I hurt my back and I went to physio and they sort of mo me up and down, but I never had one of these where he was where I was oiled So who just gives you a towel and then says right? But you had your shorts on? I did I had football shorts. shorts on. I had sort of twenty eighteen to twenty twenty Wales Nations League homes. Can I recommend a short for this exact experience? Yeah abbsolutely. Is the double layered running short with Lycra inside?. We all the rage of a minute. Because it keeps all of the family together. Yeah. I've got an arcdot about keeping the family together in this scenario, but I don't know if it's suitable for the sh 's go on. We're in.s any minute. Okay, when when I had when I hit my knee I went to a physio and he was manipulating me And he he was a very gough Australian guy. And he was he was he looked a bit thoughtful. And then after what he went Listen, mate, there's no easy way of saying this. I needed a coup of balls and move them out of the way I said, okay, I will Wow. But there was none of that from this book with the strongest thumbs in London. So were you getting it for a specific condition or just general It was vibe down. Day after I'd run the half marathon.er very wise. Beause you did it after your marathon, thought would be a good idea. I did not Why't they come to your house with one of those tables? No, it's like not far from where I live. So I went up there. But it's very weird because obviously you've got your head in the little hole Yeah you can't you can't You can't see what's going on. It's like I was just being rubbed by a man. I could just hear him like Grunting is sniffing You would hope so when I get mine done They're sorting sniffing and occasionally giggling. So they're talking you through, she's talking me through what th should be saying like Your adductor on this side is tight. No this man is more silent than space. you don't want m. I as well put it done on Mars. But I have great I have great chats with my Masus about different muscle groups. I eventually, after about half an hour, I did say, how is it going down there? Yeah, yeah And he said, Eailes Okay, this guy sounds distinctly odd, doesnn't it? M's not legit. Oh. Did you feel better at all? I did, yeah, I felt great actually ye. It's just it is hearing the sighing and the sniffing and the giggling and the when you I don't think's in a big standard. No giggling. should' be giggling. That's unprofessal. Yeah. I went to because I had one for the marathon ' my car had just started to play up, which is still bad. I've't run since. Now you don't want to get them to I know you didn't do this, but you don't want to get them too close to a marathon. No, I ten days Yeahah, you wouldn't want to get them in sort of through two or three days before. No. But he he said, rightight, go in and go, Yeah, is it best to because yeah in these circumstances I kind of want to prove that I'm really relaxed about this. It's just a body. It's fine. So might st a up of trousers L quite forth, right? because I was just in jeans. Yeah, you need to take off your jeans and a sports massage after a marathon L like rather than him having to say to me, could you just I was like I'll play the confident role here. I'll take up my trousers for you, Ed. Okay my trousers? Well said that. You said, I'll take my trousers off for you, Ed. for a mustle. Because you don't want him You don't want him to be the one thing when do I ask him to take because real isn't it? Yeah He would just say pop your trousers and shoes and socks over there? Yeah, so I took the lead. Yeah I just did it for. I just said, I'll take care of this. Yeah off the game Oviously lying on the front and it was only later that night ' then I'm just in my boxes becausecause I hadn't taken any sports shorts with me, which probably would have been wise. And because it was the caralf, I was on my front a lot. Yeah And it's only then when I got home I realized they had actually Iish quite a bit at the back. Oh box sh. So I'm not entirely sh. I mean it's no good. That's no good, is it? No good. You have to dress for a massage. People don't know this. No So for half an hour, poor guy, I mean, staring right into the eye of a storm. the theatater of confonflict. They they were in the bin. Yeah. But you've got it's a good lesson. It's a goodinem you gota bin 'em. You gotta bin ' them but also if you're gonna to go for a massage, just check the stuff that you think is fine Well, sometimes it might not be. Here's my cue and I do think I've asked this before, but take for example, the threadbeare pant. That's what I was wearing. What do you do with them Yes. I want I want a recycling bin at the say at the local tip that's for unusable clothes.. They're doing stuff that goes to charity, not stuff that gets mended. likeike this is this has got to go like bad mugs. Yeah, this has got to be shredded. and reformed into, I don't know, a surfboard or something Yeah, good point because I've definitely got pants that are unusable and unwearable, but I don't really know what to do with them. I mean, mind just going in the bin, you know I't feel great So there you go, it's pants, it's pens, it's massages If you've felt stuck trying to lose weight, you're not alone. Enter weight loss by Hers. It's designed to support you in reaching your goals, and Hers now offers access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP one medications, including the We Govi pill and the We Govi pen. Even better, with a range of affordable GLP one options, Hers makes it simple to find an approach that fits your needs and your budget If eligible, you'll get a treatment plan personalized to you and unlimited dosage changes as needed. It's weight loss designed to work with your life. Ready to reach your goals? Visit forherers dot com slash eligible to get personalized affordable care that gets you. That's F O R h E R s dot com slash eligible forherers dot com slash eligible Weight loss by hers is not available in all fifty states. Weigovi is the registered trademark of Novo Nordisk AS. To get started and learn more, including important safety information, Weovi clinical study information, and restrictions, visit forhers. com Hello, I'm Greg James. He's Felix Y. Hello, And that is England's greatest ever bowler, Jimmy Anderson. Hello Felix, what can people expect to hear on tailendnders? They loosely cricket based chat, and we' pro Jimmy about not meeting Danal Lama. Jimmy, what's your favorite thing about tailnders? I like hanging out with you guys and listen to you talk about cricket and then ting you right when you get everything. Thanks for your support as ever We also have some very special guests every now and then. Stuart Broad. So they're running into bowl and I'm going, oh, it's interesting to skipperss bowl on the top end and you're bowling this thing because you know, youre only get dropped on it. laugh. That's Ters. Listen now on BBC Sounds. G well It's come reconnecting That's what this show is. What did you describe this show as the other day? It was one of the clips on social media You said it's French rugby Lague. Dogging. Sadness and alcoholis Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. the big four So with just sixty seconds on the clock, can Ellis James make a connection with a fellow Welsh P person I was thinking Wayian. Would you say Walian? Y Yeah, Southwalian, North Walian. But would you say Walian? No, you'd say Welsh person. So there's no one word S there's no one word for like Bit What Australia? No, American people I don't use the word would say taff, I suppose. but I've always thought that's a real card if thing to. What's the English version of that P that's a British person is this not in English? Yeah, but there's a word One British person is a Brit. I'm a Brit. I suppose But you've got Scott? Yes But you know I'm a Welsh. I wouldn't say this one for Engl English either. And that's the same as Welsh person,? No, it's two separate words Englishman So England hasn't got an eith I'm Elander. Yeah, that's not no one says that. But it's a word. I'm just asking. having a go. Is there a one word word for a singular Welsh person? Oh, o this's Cumro Welsh. Thank you Welsh person. Crice, which means Welsh woman With just sixty seconds on the clock, Cllis James make a connection with a fellow Cum Ri or Cum Rice? Yeah them It's time to find, we could have call this Crice with me. It too late for that at this stage. It's time to find out in the Camry Connection. It's another Camry Cnection Eis thinks his tactics perfection. But his questions have one direction Wh did you go to school You look d even sow Come on mate you must do No we've never met at all Ellis's failure to connect with Call or Adam last week means the elusive fifty percent has moved further away from Ellis's grip We hoped we prayed, we believed But maybe we believe too much. Maybe Alice is destined to be a forty sixcent to forty eight percent player for the rest of his career.. And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Maybe we all just need to shift our expectations down a few notches. No. His connection rate now stands at forty eight point two eight percent Let's see what Alis can do today. We have a caller on the line from Wales. What's your name caller? Ali Ellice, you have sixty seconds to find a mutual connection with our caller Holly. Your time starts now. agent school thirty six Cardiff High School He school thirty six He're done a shallot church, dee No. Okay, that's fine. U what do you do for liivving I'm a business development manager in the property sector. Okay if you went to university, where did you go? Southampton and Cardiff. Oh, Southampton. What do you study Lo Okay, where do you live now South London? South London. Okay. Where in South London Stockwell? Oh do you know Jenalanna Limley? I don't. U Okay. What c. What part of the colleage did you grow up in? Ruth? In Ruth. Oh my Godd, do you know Ruth Jones I don't. I know where she lives. I know. severone thoses she lives. That felt poor Going down the lumlely route was a surprise to me. I know I just read an article about a query recently that did you know Joe? No, I know I goingo on there. I was just curious. Not There' no time time for that. No You Grew up in Roth in the nineties and you got nothing Is Roth near you? I lived in Roth, actually. I lived in Roth for a few years, but a long time of Grief. nineties is a long time ago I wasn't living there in the nineties. I was living there in the mid two thousands thirty six you would have been born in nineteen ninet I think I know any teaches a card if high, I don't think I do It's a good school cardifight, isn't it? think I have a link from school with you. Oh, do you think you so quified. What's the link then Robin Morgan, the comedian. Oh my Godd. didid he got a cif high We went to primary school, we went to secondary school together. Drive later Oh would you have should you have known that? becausecause if not I just need gone to school in Cardiff. But I didn't know Robin had gone to Cardiff, Highb he is about that age off course, I should have settled. So what we need from you, Alice in the week is Age and Sool of everyvery Welsh comedian Yeah, good shout I think that would help Well, he's not even got his little pieces of paper, He's got nothing Dave. So he'll write that down and then leave it on the shelf. Yeah, he will, probably. He will. So you' were in pranly in secondary school with Robin, were you? Yes. yeah, he's a lovely guy. He is lovely. I've known him for a very long time actually. worked I compied one of his very first gigs. What about Roth in the nineties or two thousands, when were you there U yeah, from the nineties up until theies into the mid twenty ten s. U but yeah, I've mean Whether they I passed you in the streets go into university. I lived on Connut Road. I lived on I lived on my glass Slls old street. Believe it or not, my glass spo used to work for you probably a probably two years remember David Morgan, the department store. Yes, of course. yeah. Yeah, yeah, he worked there and then he got offered a ridge job at the BBC and they wouldn't give him the time off so we quit He lived in Cardiff and he lived I watch I once watched a documentary, but my gospel life story for some reason But yeah, he lived a few doors down from where I'd lived in the fifties But I'm frustrated there But that's not your fault. I'm sorry Well, thank you very much for calling anyway. Thank you, Holly. Thank you, than you. And we will work out the impact on the stats for next week. It's going one way. It's only going Okay' Not an easy one. Not an easy one. no no. John you just you' close. Do you know what, Dave, you've been very kind to me there but not of the game. No it's the game. Don't hate the play. you know guess If I got if I lost four nill in Champions League finals, was hard tonight. when it's the Champions League final? That's where you are. That's what the game is. You've got to beat Paris San German, You've got to beat Real Madrid Big teams. This is the game. There are three point two million Wge people I've claimed that in sixty seconds I can find a link with any one of them. Oh, we kind of forced you into it inially. Yeah you did actually. Yeah, yeah, I never cl I might have claaned it No there Oh, there was definitely an insinuation But it's this is the game. This is the game and I like this attitude. D't you like this attude, I it Iook a bit of pragmatis own it. Yeah I do an incredible thing every week I am extraordinary. You are. I know. You should have like a multi screen sort of spreadsheet bonanza where you're going. Oh, no, you wouldty six. You would. I haven't fungj in anything ever. You You even said that on a podcast I listened to in part of the John Robins content bonanza that's existed over the last three weeks. Let look at at them all. you're not even looking for joy. I not no. J look peace. Are you're looking for a sort of peace and balance? Have you listened to my talk nineties to me Not yet. I really enjoyed that with Miranda Sayer. She'sing the clips's amazing. It's really nice. the clips are not the content. No I know dig a little deeper. No, that's a great podcast. Oh no, I listen to the comedi's comedian, Stu Gold Smith. Walk in the dog. If Joh is on it, I will always listen. Have you listened to Crushed No, I haven't actually. I't a crush. Heavio, did you like it? I did like it. You mentioned so you don't enjoy the feeling of longing and I really enjoy the feeling of longing. Absolly out of your mind. Like it. What do you mean enjoying the feeling of longing? Well, like when it's thing you can't get. Well, there's a girl that you fancy at high school. I quite like that kind of romanticizing ofform that you want not oight of crushed though isn't it?' in the context of Crush, the podcast. remember when you met Izzy and she went and you went to Australia. Oh yeah. Do you remember that that was the worst feeling you ever had? feel? Dave likes that No, No there is something I know there is something I quite like about it. that the unrequited love. Its like you weigh a thousand kilos. Yeah, you do. I love it. Oh I liked it. unrequited love. But also at the same time hated it. It's a very odd feeling, it an the most complex set of ideas you've ever expressed. Yeah. No, it is actually. Oh my God Ellis met Izzy. He had to go to Australia very soon after. Well, what happened was met we met and then we had one date, which went very well. and then she went to do the Sydney Arts Festival for two weeks. and then she came back and we had a couple of days and then I went to do all the Australian comedy festivals. I was gone for three and a half months. Oh horrendous. No But you were with Izzy Yeah, we decided we were together before she went to S. different. The thing that I enjoyed was kind of almost a So The wallowing of not quite having someone that you'd have quite liked. the day dreaming of th My dream was when I was a teenager was I fancy X. Id tell and ex says, ye, that's a great idea. I fancy you back and then I might be always w. No that was the point. Yeah way Yeah. Okay, girls are saying no thank you. you're poison. and bght And then, you know, I returned to the football stickers. Yeah, yeah, yeah With football stickers, the longing can be Well it goes when you get given pocket money. Yeah When you get the shinies. you go to WA Smith? or when you swap Paul Parker somehow have thirteen Paul Parkers football I l. But that's when I was collected Pul Park. It very funny. He stved around the corner for me, Paul Parker. Did he really? Yeah back in the day all the United players lived like a little culisac there. W he a Paul Parker? Oh my Godd. Who is on the curb. ave No episode of Crushed would be crazy. I don't think Iithm in the minority that much that well you're in your teenage. I No. I think you can romanticize it when you're older. spe it worked out so well It worked out for you. No know, there's girls that I, you know, didn't get or they, you know, they get ghosted by whatever and you end up, you know, having those moments. but there was a little party that kind of liked that, I don't know. that that? No, no, I just felt like I was in a sort of black pool of boiling oil. It's great. It's equidistant between two black holes. Awful, awful. G me un crrushed. Yeah. I'll give Margaret Cabborne Smith a call. But I think Margaret kind of agreed with me because she said, wasn't, isn't there something quite Yeah because because maybe because you and her are more normal with your feelings whereereas I just like could not don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever want to go back to them. I left my group. I would never ever I could not bear to talk about my crushes on. a public platform. I'll tell Hannah not to listen, but I could do it all day own Oh my crushes, it's just embarrassing. Yeah I don't think it's embarrassing. I just think it's so heavy in your heart when you're just like, comeome on, John, I was never gonna to get with Betty Bothstfreud the speaker of the house for God's sake, she' so much on her plate. It was an early crush that I had from someone who I spotted over the room at the disco that I went to, Sandpoint Disco Which was like the disco to be out when you're ten years old. Oh yeah But we never spoke to each other, But then I started I became obsessed with her for like three months Then I start to do some digger and figure out I knew where she lived And I said to my mummers like, can I take a Valentine's present round to this girl that She's got no idea who I am, but I know where she lives. My mum' like, yeah, good idea. let's go. But that is cute. Oh I't's so what? that's cute. Yeah she answers the door, there's a guy there who she doesn't know guy, you're ten years old. Yeah. I know, but it's not like we had like a little thing and I've gone to try and win her after dancing with her at the disco. littleittle thing. I like a little dance at the disco But this is just a stranger at the door. So what she expected to do? She was like, thanks for this teddy bar. I want to caught in a game of kiss cheheers at primary school in the rain and before I'd left before I'd left the house to G' primary school Mama drilled into me that I had to have my hood up because it was going to rain all day She must have said forty times. Remember to have your hood up. I've seen the forecast it iss going rain all day. Concerns for the young men's welfare has really changed over the years, hasn't it? Well I'd have been maybe six because it was I remember So we moved school d in year threees. it was before that. Yeah. So I'd have been five or six. And I remember she kissed me on the hood. and I remember thinking I' the rain Even in the summer it rains because it in Pembrokehire God'sake But yeah, I suppose I can tell that anecdote of crash, But other than thats too too exposing Oh my God If you've felt stuck trying to lose weight, you're not alone. Enter weight loss by Hers. It's designed to support you in reaching your goals, and Hers now offers access to an affordable range of FDA approved GLP one medications, including the We Govi pill and the Weovi pen. Even better, with a range of affordable GLP one options, Hers makes it simple to find an approach that fits your needs and your budget If eligible, you'll get a treatment plan personalized to you and unlimited dosage changes as needed. It's weight loss designed to work with your life. Ready to reach your goals? Visit forherers dot com slash eligible to get personalized affordable care that gets you. 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So they're running into bowl and I'm going, oh, it's interesting to skippers bowl on the top end and you're bowling this thing because you know, you're only get dropped on you. love it. It's Ters. Listen now on BBC Sounds. G well So it's time to play a made up game and returning on probation is producer Michael, who's error whose enormous error? has sent shockwaves through the made upp game community. And also Dave's very biased tie brereak has caused quite a deal of offence, Dave Do you know what I find offensive? Correctness. No, do you know what I find off fense Dis in pop. One of our best producers, Michael Dale Tk a long weekend off to help his mum move house Halfway through that long weekend, he thought I'll just stick on the podcast that I produce that I actually really enjoy working on, that they have my back and respect to me. I know that for a fact. M Mum can listen to it. Yeah, M why do you listen to this podcast that I produce? And it's so nice so much they love me working on that and he tunes in He finds that you fired him. Do you live on my podcast? I should apologize to Michael. Michael, your sacking should have been in writing It should have been on your desk before the podcast went out. And that that's on me you. That is on me aper paper trail, especially if it's signed with a leegal If you write anything without peniless itomes law. It becomes law. Yeah I've only written lovely pen with. Michael's back in the hot sea and it's good to have him here. So this rease too. No no, I like the guy. I wish him well then You on his future endeavourors. Yeah. And also, you know, I won because of his big mistake, so I e keep him on board. is Celtic in this. Yeah. Oh, that was heartbreaking, wasn't it? It was heartbreaking. I Not meaning to do that. and it's just it's an unfortunate play on words, but it was sad, wasn't it? It was sad, yeah Um We have a new jingle. Eien, I love the name Eien How hass a band called Sund ten Yeah? Oh I think split up last year did that? They wereak in the late nineties Yeah. What a great answ. Only love can break your heart. I thought that was Nil Young. I think they covered it. wasas that their big hit? There was two. It was the other the seent I C remember but they had't ye And obviously famous range football team. I think that was their main one, but of course, I'm sure they had loads of great hits. it's just the one that I'm aware of Hello darling littleittle Bobbers I've been pining for your old made up games jingle. The OG Darren changed the rules. O way back when. So here's my attempt at recapturing that Jois de viv that jubilence and ignorance of youth. As it turns out, it's hard to It's hard Ah yes As it turns out, it's hard to the point of being an actual job to write a thirty second jingle, so it's slightly longer than I'd hoped. Hey we're never asking to limit it thirty seconds what you got to do. So this is from Etsian. And I assume it's going to be a faithful rendition of one of our old jingles. Let's hear it. M made up without friends Pase don't se any say so you haveers loses head and Jon will prioritize the we know So This is very is very u going su us Wow,. That's a sensation It's january nineteen sixty nine. That The start of that reminded me of our house by Crosby Stills and Nationalng, which always makes me cri it's so beautiful. and it's about Ste It was about Steven Stills or Graam N's relationship with Joni Mitchell. Oh really? Yeah. Oh my God. It was a bit annoy in there. And it was' the Halifax adft. Yeah, yeah ye U That was nice actually. Thank you SN. Scores on the doors. After Ellis's win in jingles on buzzers passed without controversy last week, the scores now stand at forty fifteen to Ellis in the first game of the third set Don't call it the comeback canan he clinch that first game? Can you Alice That's the confidence of the man right there. Back yourself, man. Okay? Yes. No, no. This week's game comes in from Sean in Lincoln. Hello my parasocial pals. I've devised a made up game which will test your knowledge and your nerve. I've called it hererring on the sideide of caution Wish a like ducer Dave will list ten items from a certain category. But here comes a twist. Some of those items will be red herrings, i. e, they won't fit the category. they won't be the correct answers to the category. Before reading out the items, Dave will tell you how many things within the category are red herrings. Okay so this adjacent to code s codeenames. o. He will then list the ten items. Yeah yeah. Ellis and John listen to this bit carefully. Ellis and John will take it in turns to bid on how many of the items they think are red herring. I thought you just told us that Yeah how many items do you think you can get from the reed hererrings So you could say there are five red herings, but I can only get three Yes.. So if there are four red herrings in the list and Ellis reckons he can get two, he can open the bidding get two. if John fancies it for three He can go up to three. You know what would help but it's too late to organize is little printouts of the items Yeah, Do it would help But it's too late to organize if we did this at Wembbley Stadium. Yeah that's true. And they've got a prince because I'm a big play and they've got a prince. It's not too late to organise us doing it there. It's too late to organise anyone watching We could just do it on Wembbleyway. Oh, we outside, Yeah.. I don't think wonder if you need permission Ne week, we'll do it on Weblyyay. Let's do round one. Okay, so are we happy with the rules? I think we are actually. Here we go, a few more rules If a player names an incorrect item in their answer i. is something that isn't a red herring opposing player can steal all the points at stake by naming just one more thing. If they nick one of the right answers that the previous player who had, you know claimed he could play the game could didn't get whoof They get all the points, cp Potentially five rounds, but let's see how we get on. Okay. And you get a point for each item you name. Points accumulator. You get a point for each item you name. But you need to get all the ones that you claim you will get obviously What if we both say all of them? Well, we're going flip flop so the person who gets in there first gets to play it. let's get to give it a go. Enjoy, Seanan Lincoln. Round one. Best Picture Oscar winners. Oh, I see, so you're given the category Yeah Okay and then you're going be given the answer. You shouldd have to guess the category as well 's l l I' too late for that. on Wemyway. So print out swwemlyay. Yeah. Gess the category for future. Red hererrings. Yeah. four. Okay Titanic.. The deer hunter Citizen Kane Brave heart Taxi driver Sho Shank Reddemption Yeah Chariots of fire. It's a social network. Ra ushing tiger And Hidden Dragon. That's the same film. Oh I've had a real shocker thisockative decline, Dave. sixty nine seconds in a bloody minute It's ' theyre they're all separate. by commas. But there's a comma in the title. Yeah, yeah, yeah Crption Tiger Hid and Dragon of course, the same film and the the sound of music. Okay. Oh dear me Have a little think. how many do you think you can spot there in terms of the red herrings? And of course you then need to back that up by naming what the red herrings are so You got there's got to be confidence to it. I've never really taken much interest in the Oscars, I must admit No know, I'd be terrible with this. So these are all wild stubs. What was the fourth one? Brave heart? Yeah. Well, Ellis, do you want to go first? Well, I'll let obviously that you could I let John to finish the scribler first. I'm done. You finish the scribbler? Yeah I'm gonna go for three. He's gone for three. I'm gonna let Ellice name then. Yeah, interesteresting. Okay. well, hey. here we go. So you've got a name or three. Obviously if one is incorrect, I will I will course say that one is incorrect. then Joh well, I'll say that you've not got it right and then John you just have to steal one of the remaining red herrings. Alice. Brave heart So it won best picture So I mean John you've got U or four to go off. I'm gonna say taxi driver. Incorrect. Sugar. Well, Scorsese had never won a he won his first Ah bestest Director. Yeah hell, Dave. you live for hell with me. Wh am I out there with you? No, I can be on a bud record. I have had a bud record. He won Best Director for the ambulance film that I can't even remember because I never w before. Have you watched is new documentary? No, It's quite good. So it's Nil Poix. It's Nil Pois. Do you want to hear the red herring?'s. Sure shing Rdemption. It' your red herring. Citizen Cane. Sureest picture. It was a bit of a flop at the cinema. I didn't know that's hilarious, I didn't know that. Social network.. Crouching Tiger and hidden Dragon. So I thought Citizen Kane taxi dririver, Sashan Redemption and Crouching Tiger with the Red herrings and I said the only one I got wrong. Oh gosh. So you were clout, yeah.. So Social Network didn't win, did it? Social Netork did not win. So I was writing that one. The Shsh Rdemption didn't win. No. No, I didn't think that would win Yes, So you would have been wr It was a bit of sleeper hit the Shwshank Rdemption.HS. Yeah Yeah. big VHS O I said that someone the other day. I got laughed out of the room. No the tie you're right. Yeah ye. You are right. And then it was one of those things that would you get lent to people and then By the time of It's think about n ninety four, but n ninety six was massive. Yeah, but it wasn't particularly good at the box of vindication. A snowil Round two. Actually I remember Brieve how winning it and had been on the news the Scottish anangle. Summer Olympic, you right, John? Yeah, I' just checking the box office and for social for I S shorth redemption, wasn't happy? Okay, Dave, let's go. Summer Olympic sports as of twenty twenty four. How blimy So just that particular Olympics. Yes. Okay Table tennis How many returns? Five Five Table tennis, mixed martial arts Taikwondo Natball climbing Squash Triathlon. T whate. trial fll That's a trial flud I'm gonna say tririothlon is a red herring. Triothlathon. Try Ath lawn. ye. lawn bowls Darts trampining. Five red herrings O of the Smmer Olympics in twenty twenty four. John, when youre ready? No rush. We'll come to you first for your bid, please I will say four. John's gone for four out of five. I' let him do it. He's gonna let him do it. All'll switch a roo from the first round. Okay, John. You need to name all four red herrings to win the point off your pop. Darts MMA. Mixed martial arts, correct Lawn Bowls. Lwn Bowls correct. O more trampolining trampolining is incorrect. You kidding me? I wouldn't and I shouldn't. Okay. So Alice, you just need to name one of the Red Herringon Nick four points climbing. Yes and corrects. I watched the climbing. Oh did you? It was great. sugar. I had MMA, I had trumpolining, I had lawn balls and I had d. coondo. No, that was what. What is it then? MMA, netball, squash, lawn balls, darts. netballsot in thely Olympics. Netballs not in the Olympics I'm absolutely amazed at that Dave, that's not true. I'm absolutely am. So my five M. We can't sack it for fing in a row. C on balls, dance and trumpolini. I'm absolutely staggered John's googling that one of them is Netball. Tell you what, Michael is looking very relaxed over there, so I think he's absolutely fine with this. He's sleeping well at night knowing that Netball wasn't in the suummer Olympics. Netball has never been played at the Summer Olympics. Oh! that amazing! It's recognized by the International Olympic Committee since nineteen ninety five. Y That is absolutely insane. How long has Clayiming been an Olympic event? You can't have trampolining if you don't have netball who's in charge of this mess? How long is co on here? That's stupid. How long has Claying been an Olympic event? I don't I played netball at school? That doesn't mean that it should be an Olympic event. It's played in every school. It's not obscure. I agreed with that Rrief Wow U Do you want a little apology to Michael?' not I didn't accuse Michael of any you've checked the veracity. Yeah, because I couldn't believe it. Well, I'll apologise on John's half Mich No And then youll apologise to me on your behalf, Dave. I'm sorry, John. Sorryichael Sorry about you. It's Nell Nell tough game. It is a tough game. abbsolutely. but you've both been close. Yeah, I love it. It's yeah, it's not it's I would have got four of those. I am really annoyed Okay. Round three, top ten companies In the Fortune Global five hundred For twenty twenty five based on revenue. Okay. twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Revenue. Revenue. Okay Red herrings Five o. Amazon. Yeah Microsoft old. Yeah Berkshire Hathaway This is a bit of jon this round, is't I think Alphabet China National Petroleum Volkswagen J.P. Morgan Chase Walmart Revenue. Shell That is interesting. Rev. It's the old Rev. There's the old Rev F. There's five RHs in there Oh the problem is they are all mass obviously well done all massive companies. They're well done to them. So if you'd told me that there were no red herrings I could believe you. Yeah. But there's five and so I'm surprised. Okay. now before we start guessing Do we w want to keep this as a three rounder or do we want to go to five rounds? Because after this there'll be, I imagine one person who would want that and one person who wouldn't Three runounds. fzz heck. This is the hardest road. ye. It to stay it These are all companies that I would think were in the top ten. So five red herrings I find difficult to believe. And you're not across their accounting, you're not across their revenue. Not for twenty twenty five So's Alice to go first. We'll agree to three round it, okay? Okay Two, two That's interesting, isn't it, John? Becauses that's getable even with a bit of guesswork Um I'll go through then. Oh, he's done it, he's gone for it. But then of course, Alllice still can only win it by then nicking one of the previous ones if he doesn't get it. John, please name Oh, you can bid back, of course. Do you wantna bid back? No, No, there's no shance. There are only two I'm vaguely comfort. I mean, they're all so big, so I don't Yeah, of course you could have bided above John's three. But John, he's asked you to play, so let's play Th three red herrings out of the five John is confident with Uh Volsewagen Correct. It like Um , I'm nervous. JP Morgan Chase. Correct. That was one of minees that. I keep saying that Aless, you should have just played the game The final one to wit this is to win the game, John, three nil. China National Petroleum and correct You've got it. But this is the man who only could confidently go for two. so I don't think Ellis has g I've even bloody circled that. I am gonna go for the one that I haven't heard of. The only one I haven't heard of. To win the game. To win the game. Oh What' Hathaway? Oh, it's incorrect. What is it? It's the biggest investment company in the world That's Warren Buffett's compomany. Oh, I thought I saw Because alphabet is Google, isn't it? Alphabet is a red herring. And I was looking for Nvidia. Nowassive I had circled Berkshire, Hathaway, Volkswagen, JP Morgan, Walmart and Shell. Okay, Sichelle, JP Morgan, Volkswagen, the other two are Microsoft and Alphabet. me out I for day ownone Google Yeah. I' It's staggered. I just think it ye. Microsoft. Yeah. twenty second. Avenue. Microsoft twenty second, Alphabeta thirteenth. Wow Xen. I W Xenos. the top ten, please. I Googledle the top ten biggest companies yesterday of it not the revenue, just in terms of Your investment portfolio. Just in terms of net value. Yeah. what But there' been mad changes since last year in like AI and stuff. Ifave you got the top ten there, Michael? I've got that yet.. Do you want the top ten? Yes, please. Just out of interest. John Robins Industries number one. Sed an Ink. signignificant productions. Let's go then, Dave. From ten Barkshire Hathaway, CVS health Do know that one? That would have been good one to chuck in there as a reg Yeah. Apple, United Health Group. Oh, of goh, sh isn int them. Sinopec group or Sinopc Group. China National Petroleum, Saudi, Aramco State grid is three Amazon's two, Walmart. Walmart's one. Walmart's the biggest in terms of Revenue. Yeah Rers U peopleeople always need shopping. So we go to tie brereak. Yeah. Yappy. If you make me guess it, I' just walk out and I will come back. I've got plans for this evening anyway. I mean, we can play another round or we can tie break Alice, because I know you're in a rush, which might just force your hand whether you're willing to Is it a gu come out of retirement? Is it a tie break? Yes, it's closest to the pin, Alice Which is wow, look at the confusion in the brain. He can get away quickly O. So do I get away quickly come out of retirement? Eremely important engagement or do I humiliate myself again This be this could be the comeback story. Is this for this is game point? You're not? Yes I don't you know, that's the pressure that he doesn't need. Whatever Are you up for tie break? it's the quicker way. Yeah ye yeah yeah yeah ye. So we end three rounds at Nil Nil, Tie break. Walmart top of the list John knows what's com What was there revenue in twenty twenty five Great Tie brereak. Great Tiebreak from producer Michael Alice is scbbled and he's scribbled quick. John's ha a little thing so we'll wait for John to scribble Oh round four was fun. We should do that in our own time, Michael, maybe tomorrow or something Can I had to Google one off something else and it's the one figure I remember, but I don't remember what the figure related to. So my guess is that figure but I can't tell if it's right or not So there was a figure on the webpage I read. Yeah, but I can't remember what the webpage related to because of my cognitive decline. Okay. H. That is tough. Yeah. In dollars. That is tough. In dollars, of course. Good grief, that's a tough question. It's been a tough game From Sean Okay, I am not confident at all on this guess by orders of magnitude Walmart is top of the list In terms of companies and the fortune Global five hundred for revenue from twenty twenty five What was their revenue? Ellis James? six hundred million dollars. sixix hundred million dollars, John. I gone twenty billion. He's gone twenty billion. Alis is back in the guessing game. It's six hundred eighty million dollars Was that the figure you the Google figure I read was six hundred million, but that might be this year's revenue. Oh yeah, you're close. so that will have been the figure that you'd seen. you guessing again? I shock if I like guessing. You like guessing? I've guessed correctly twice in the last two Okay, that felt nice. Hey, you win the game. a gaming article I read about the sort of share price and Revenue, very different things Yeah. Be I'm thinking in my head, well, Elon Musk's worth seven hundred fifty billion They're everywhere, but that's share price not Value not revenue Yes, and then I just try to imagine how many supermarkets there were So yeah, I was MagGer out Yeah But that's a bit of a look.'s not good guessing, that's me. There's a hand up from Michael. Oh no. Well, this is what I'm confused about. This might be six hundred and eighty. Oh. They come. They come. six hundred eighty Is it a b? eighty five million So does that mean Hdy Saxony no longer works for you. I can't work out if that means billion. Why did you love to put your hand up, mate?
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