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Elis James and John Robins

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From #549 - Creativitine, Daily Life Stings and Ossification & DeathJun 16, 2026

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It says above the door of the office This is your last chance to escape If you've got an Orthodox mind for that Inside there was an elite level meeting taking place between the company's two chief originality whirlwinds, John Robbins and Dave Masterman be there because I had to take my son to L littleittle Dolphin swimming club which John said was for the best because my cognitive abilities had gone into managed decline It's Great running a company with your best friends What about initiative, symposium? said John, reclining in his chair. I like the word symposium. S sounds better than a convention or a meeting It was two minutes into the latest Significant Productions meeting and tensions over a simple definition were already running high It's actually happening Wellile in Audi all these days, the word for meeting is actually gab fest or a solution, Congress, said Dave, slipping into his dungarees after emerging from the office cryo chamber, which was there to boost creativity. The label on the communal office creatine had been crossed out and replaced with creativityine, which Toast. It didn't quite work, but John said there's no such thing as a bad idea, apart from my idea for a health podcast Dave and John were trying to work out how best to capitalize on the fact that they booked the Royal Albert Hll for a gig without telling me and the fact that my wife was on the next series of Taskmaster. they introduce the show to a new audience, impressive silence hunging in the air. they both choosing their own time honoud personal tricks to stimulate the creative juices. Dave by now was adding Himalayan rock salt to his coffee to try and encourage new ideas. and like all media locals, John was relaxing with an absolutely massive spliff And since he'd quit the bs, he'd found the big daily taloes of Mary Jane allowed him to come up with lots of great stuff But as a consequence, the Sportage glove box was full of kick cats and was too anxious to do stand up let's call Ell said to him. I haven't got any ideas if I start myicrodosing to get things moving, An' will kilmer. Hi, Dava said Listen I saw Paul McCartney being interviewed by Rob Bryden at the Camden Roundhouse on Wednesday night And now Maka is even more of an influence 've been writing songs, Dave Paul, it's the only way I can express myself Dave's face brightened If you need an advert to go viral for the show, I've come up with it clean, snappy and melodic, and it will work across all platforms on speaker phonone so John can hear we have a. I live my life with Alis and John My lunch with the podcast on As send emails b to my dad Didn't get rered out. There must have been bad Hello everyone, Ais Knx If he doesn't, my mental health is wrecked. Tell me this more, said Dave O's more I repllied. I'll live my life with Alice and John. I feel so alive when the podcast is on. Dave stood to applaud. I love it What do you think I said nervously to John His reply was simple, you sacked. So there we go. We've got an advert ready to go for the. What do you think about that? So you wrote that? I wrote that for for us because I watched As I said, I watched that Q and A with it wasn't in Q and A was it was an interview with Rob Biden and PulcCartney and Briden was very impressed by the fact that Paul had one day off on his tour. so he was in Costa Ric and he thought, right I'm going have a nice breakfast and sit by the pool, but then it rained very heavily so he just wrote a song. was like, Wow, you everon, do you ever switch it off People said, No, not really. I thought neither do I ' I'm always coming up with something. You aren't you? But I just never record them and released them So do you want tona hear my best one? Yes. So when you know your phone We'll give you, you know, it will it will remind your photos that were taken ten or twelve years ago. Yeah So you know might hate Yeah, it's quite weird, isn't it? So My phone will, you know, remind me or iszy of when the kids were little And rather than say, Ohh, that's great. If Iizzy shows me a phot of you know, Betty when she was too awesome me. instead of saying, well like this photo. I always sing Let's take a trip down memory, trip down memory, trip down memory, lane, lane I couldn't similar melody to the other st. Yeah, it's sh. They're always quite short. But it's quite good like dings. Yeah stings are of daily life stings. Yeah. You doing this a lot at home. all the time. Well that a dramatic text topic we did a couple of weeks ago. Why do UFF D Well would that would be peakick, I'd say. eyes just widened up here as I just swore it. Well, no, because I was reminded of Ellis's top hit Dorking leatherhead Regate the other day because we drove under the sign for Dorking Leatherhe Of course. We're obviously going to produce up Ellis's song and use it as a jingle for the show,'tbsute If poss. We've got it cleaning because we weren't reacting. No we were just called sil what sort of production are we gonna put over that? It's quite jaunty, Michael's jaunty though, and Michael's musically jaunty. Michael's eating crrisp, is like Michaels doing. Yeah But look at his jaunty trainers Yes and his Jont two socks. But Michael Michael is our producer. Michael plays the piano, Michael plays the guitar. What's What do you think about that Michael It was alright. the Simon Cowl of the room. I went to watch Paul McCartney do a live in conversation. So they came on them as a set L like you was sort of someone's living room So Rob Rden was the unannounced guest a guest horse, which quite irritated him because I sort of know Rober bit. I I would have tried to get in to meet him if I'd known it was going to be him. How many bouts of noravirus were you away from presenting? Well, this is interesting, right? because it was great being with a Lad of Beatles fans and being able to go up to anyone and say how many times have we want to get back So I was sitting next to about five or six people and we were chatting about who we thought the interviewer was going to be So the names in the mix were Sir Ahmed Laurena Laverne, John Harris, D Mcony Jeff Lloyd may be And then someone someone What about you Ellis James? I was like, I don't know. I imagine if you'd then put on your sparkly jacket Sorry guys, I got a job to do. That would end. I was right at the back. I was in the back row so you could see the celeb VIP bit And they were just there like Rob's family were there. and you're thinking Cast needs to be bigger I'm in the back row when I to buy it. We're doing all right, but I need to get I need to be in the. Al weren't your suspicions aroused by the fact that Rob Bridden's family were there, but Rob Riden? No, no, no, no. I mean, like I didn't recognize his family. He said on stage that, you know, my son my eighteen year old son is here and all that kind of stuff. But you could see the VIPs milling about I was thinking, how do I get in there to beat him? What did Paul walk ono an enormous stuing ofition. Oh not like a not like No, Rob came on it did like two minutes. Rob' brilliant. He was an absolutely fantastic hoost Rob's the. Paul loves comedy So so he did ask Rump to do his Ronny Corpbet impression. And I thought that's why Rob's doing this. I can't I can do a sort of fairly decent generic Northeast. Yeah. I imagine if Paul been like, canan you do your generics Northeast? Okay, let's roll play it, Alllice You've got the gig, but it's reliant on the first minute interaction with Paul McCartney going well or you get pulled off and they're going to replace you with Chris Aabuooky Mhm Alice, I hear you do quite a few different impressions. Could you do your Ronny Corb bit for me Now, the producer was There we go. keep going keepeep going. I didn't actually hear much of your voice. And I was and me and And me and Ronnie it was a game of golf J could you come on out, please. I don've been needing any Would that be the ultimate dignity if I got replaced by Chrisa Kabusi after the first minute Yeah, I mean, he threw you was pretty bad, wasn't it? A curvebard, they're asking you to do Ronny Corbt in the first minute. The mud thing was So it was a set like a sort of living room So Rob is asking songs about each track and then we would listen to the track So we listen to the whole record Pantom to do it if I I just kept imagining I don't know, there's a Q and A and Rob Rinean says, Alice, how did you write this? but stand up? and then showing it and I'm sitting there watching other people watch my set on like you know thepollo or whatever. That would be excruciating What you what? doing your days one night stand in front of a thousand. O my Russell How was good news. Yeah. I would It would be And yet, he was obviously so comfortable with his own music. He doesn't mind sitting and watching people listen to him. No one's gonna slack off But it is Like gu I can't watch myself on tey, for instance. I can't look at myself in the mirror I just I didn't know what to expect, but I didn't expect that Yeah. And and then the whole album We listened to the whole album. Sir Robber song It lasted two hours So Rob And I wasn't allowed to take any food in, so I had to Whyough? So it was unreserved seating, which was quite a weird way of doing it. So my friend Jermmud sorted out the ticket. She was in the cave from about quarter past five. Dolls were at half past six and the children started eight So I got that at's six And the key was already massive and there were people with, you know fulled up chairs and all this kind of stuff and umbrellas because it was It was outside. No, it was at the Camden Round toouse. It it did open the doorstop a stair. It was unreserved se Oh, that's a nightmare. So you eithere a ticket for upstairs or downstairs So you had to queue to get a good and I'm So then I bought some food to eat in the quew, but unfortunately I come reconnected with a m called Mark. and I had such a great conversation about A a day that then I got to suddenly it was the front of the quew and they said, Well we can't take that in his food. And said, but is there any food to eat in the comeonouse? And I said, No, So so I had to eat it really, really quickly. The peopleople were flying past me. What did you what was it? It was was some sushi Yeah Yeah. So it was just, I don't know why you would do an unreserved seittating for an event. uch an odd Just Why would you do that? J ye, just name the name name the seat. Name the seat. Yeah, it was really, really. I've only seen them live once. it was really magical thing. So you're all listening to the full length of each song What's Paul and Rob doing? J sat there those song? Yeah the things. So so Robs was drumming his fingers and Paul was singing along and just looking at the audience. Obviously one nobody knows the songs very well yet the album's only just come out. It's just quite a weird But yeah, what can you do? I mean I've done a couple of those but in a much more intense surroundings, so I've been invited when we were at XFM go and listen to an album, like an album playback. An album playback but that was me, head of music Mike Walsh work experience Stve Ferdinando, just the three of and the band. The band in a room no bigger than this studio. That posossible. And then they press play No And then what use a put in the going to name the band, but they were a flash in the pan at best. So they're watching you for your response to their own record. And then each song ends and what can you do apart from wax lyrical about every single track And they wonder why you've never played them. Yeah. in a half second between the between the last truck and the next truck. How do they pause it? Oh it' horrible listening to music you haven't heard before. Oh yeah, but the band are there as well. When your partner or your friend says, Ohh listen to It's my favorite song nothing. So we have why didn't say M. we couldn't say that because you know, we we had PR to upold the band and the record and the radio station.. But we all worked out and that was a bit much. I was extremely impressed with Rob. I thought he was so good. Yeah. because he didn't he loves music, but he didn't go too deep and he didn't he didn't go too nerdy. Yeah, but he just kept the ball in the air. And it was also because it was about the new album who was Paul stories I' not heard before, which was good But he's very down to earth isn't Paul? He's mega down to earth. It's great U what was funny was every time he would mention any musician, the musician would get cheered So we were like, Yeahah, it reminds me when I wrote the song with John Lnner Really? Yeah, you know, so I was yeah, I was just having a drink with Ronnie Woody. But then sometimes you would just say, yeah, 'use I lived on a housing estate in speak and the blook was like go on This is from Sak And Rob said, How do you look so good? Because you know, you're eighty four before long, very soon is your birthday And you look really vibrant, you know, what's your secret when, Well, I'm a vegetarian. I don't like to do pilates and the woman next to me went Yes. Ps One guy just watched the whole thing for binoculars. Wow. And we had to all had to put stickers on our phones we weren't able to take phhotographs Really? Yeah yeah Wow, it's quite big a big event. It was a big event It was good fun anyway, how have your weeks been Well me and Dave were on a hour and a half call with our accountants Yeah, we were Yeah. how did that cool? We got we've got some news to share at some point. That's not for the podcast. they were haveave you it relates to what D Elis was saying in his intro. Yes, it is actually. It does actually. We'll get you on the next one. Great. Yeah. Is this going to be a nice surprise like the roll out the hall or is it going to be a bad surprise? You just say yes and nothing changes. Great, o, yes.. Do you want me saying that in different ways? wors so I said you're going to' gone Yes Yes. And now one'm really disappointed, but you're saying yes anyway. Yeahah. Thanks thatll. We'll use that one Well, I had a big week as well, actually. Oh yeah. yeah, I carried out a sock audit Right? Okay. So holes with socks, get rid of them. socks you don't like anymore, get rid of them. Big time. All the socks are out. So what are you ono what are you down to now? I had a sock audit about a year ago actually. Well, I split them into megas which are my sort of I always reach for. Yeah. Neutral first choice. Yeah Yeah. Neutral is like you can take it or leave it If there's no megas, you go down to neutral. H only got two pair of megas. Then it's down to avoids Yeah then below that is defunct Yeah, I had a pair of head socks that I had since I was eighteen. eventually get rid of those So I had way more avoids. I just got sick of like ting them back in like them. We all went to charity guy Okay Wh's buying who's buying Well John Robbins fans. I would buy Paul McCartney's old socks. Well, I was thinking this because like obviously you're not going to take socks or pants to a charity shop Be because even if you said they're clean They're saying that no one wants to handle someone else's j. U your pus' dusters. U yeah, I don't need that many dusters. Oh any dusters don't you? No. Are you dusting? Yeah, I've got cats, Deve Yeah, I've got cats, I don't dust. Yeah maybe we should dust. So there's like a recycling bin for clothes at my local tip. so I took them there And then I went to A sock retailer I've recently discovered. And just was like to helports direct. To helpll with the cost, it's megas only. Okay from now on. Okay. so I bought ten megas How much do they pay I don't want to reveal any secrets. Right. I'm thinking about what I could buyo socks for in Prim Mack. I a cheap socks. Okay, ' they're just not worth it. It's a false economy. I'd rather have one good pair that lasts five years than you wear every day. tenen pairs that just go sweaty and the They're not tight enough round the lower ankles orr they're too tight. orr they're too thin. Or they're too thin. Yeah this is John prepping us for a very expensive sock purchase, I think. of justification. Iric Jeremy Paxman once slagged off MNS socks. Yeah. and the head of MNS got in touch and said, canan I come on news night? because you've been paying the same price of socks for twenty years So the quality is obviously going down. you're not spending enough. Interesting. Be if you were spending, because Jeremy Paxson was saying, I've got a pair from twenty twenty two thousand that I still still work. And he's like, well, yeah the equivalent price of a two thousand year pair of socks would be like twenty quid now. This is James Hoffman's argument about price of coffee isn't it?ike if you want to pay your distributors and your coffee farmers properly, you've got to pay more than you're used to in the high street. if you want everyone to be treated equitably. So these socks Aur seventeen ninety nineents a pair a pair. I'll be expecting two pairs for that, I think. So how they got flushy designs and patterns? Yeah, they do, but I just went for the plain black ones. Okay. In fact, Do they light up? I'm wearing some right now They say John on them. So but if you get them in a multi pack, Yes, that goes down to like eleven quid. Okay, then Here's where things get really interesting Yeah Should we be the judge of that now I'm no fan of artificial intelligence. You know that. Yeah. R. However, it suddenly crossed my mind to go Hello Artificial intelligence Do you have any discount codes for this brand? Oh, he's played the system Artificial intelligence replies, Ah This brand is known for not really giving any discounts. You will be able to get reductions on Black Friday in November, but I'm afraid apart from that discount codes that I have I said, could you just give them to me anyway Is said, okay, here are five Five codes that have been successful on this website in the past. I try them all, none of them work. Yeah. I say Have you got any other codes? It goes. Here are four more codes that have been used on this website One of them It was like obviously made for a mate of the owner It's like Craig's code. It is literally someone's name Really? twenty twenty and then a year. Wow. I whack that in. Gone Johnny Jay is getting twenty percent. Oh twenty. Is that theft? No, no. It's just It feel moral somehow. That's there, thoughtfully codeation. Yeah, yeah. Yeah rotect your codes. Protect your codes are all costs. You need another podcast or a kid.. But then I was like I can just ask AI for discount codes for everything I buy ever again. That is quite a good hack if you willing if you're willing to go down the go down AI lane. Well, it doesn't take very long. I've got a little plugin in the browser. Yeah, but this was every so often it's just like Sorry, mate can't help you with this website. They keep their cards close to their chest. Yeah. because yeah, absolutely.. And they arrived next day and I got some pants and I'm gonna suggest to you that we get them to sponsor our show because I love them so much. Okay. Are they gonna be you know, it's the bigger brands that do tend to sponsor the show.re they gonna to have So they looks like a besport artism pant. Yeah they're p through a podcast. Who knows? Unless it's Porsche pants. It's not Porsche pants pch pant, but they do portch pants. Yeah they will do pche pants So yeah, that was my week my sock audit. got rid of about twelve pairs of Avoiders. goodood work. Thanks. Quickly on the AI thing.. So last summer we were in Portugal with the family. And every now and the night you like you say, when you sometimes just need that quick shortcut, I've got one of those ones that you speak to. And for some reason, and I can't remember where it started. It was me and Hannah messing around at home. I call mine Brad So I just always call the voice Brad It's a bit of fun. What you can select what name it answers to. It won't answer It reminds me maybe one in every four and goes, Hey, Dave just remind you, not call Brad. I'm your AI assistant, but you can call I'm going to call you Brad and he goes, and this goes on for it's quite fun. And he goes, Yeah, but just to let you know. I'm not called, Brad But if you want to but what do you want to know? one AI related mental illness It's a bit like if you ask Alexa what the Welsh word for a hundred is. Yeah. It sounds like a very very rude English word and it's a bit of fun And it can't spell strawberries That's that's good fun as well. It's good fun. Anyway, this flaw's in the system. The Welsh word for a hundred is donon't say it yet. Is it really bad? Yeah And that is that the worldst world for the W world? Yeah. Okay, but it' it's okay. fine. So I'm trying toad a lot Um, every now and then He's reminding me he's not Cor, Brb, that's fine. I persist. And we're doing it lot on holiday last year and my parents are in the room and like, you know, you need to find out what, you know what restaurants are open down on the bay. It kind of became a bit of a ranger. Let's get Brad on it. Hey, Brad And then about three weeks ago Mumum and Dad were around at mine for the marathon viewing party that we had, which was lovely. and this AI thing came up again and I I think I just mutterered the word, of course, he's not called Brad. it's called the name of the actual AI O co pilot, whatever. And does that what He's not it's not called Brad. That's what we've called it, but it's called Copilot and does's like bloody Dave. I've been in the pub with mates for the past year and every time we've been talking about AI, I've been saying we need to get Brnd on it then They're all looking at it okay. We've never heard of that. I say, Yeahah, Dave's using it all the time it's good. It's that's the one you want to use. Get Brad on it. He must have thought it was like a sort of a edge. Yeah think you' a corn investor in a cool startup Thereppoint on his face when you can see him tracing back how many times around pp tables over the whole It would be a nightmare. He's been convincing people there is an AI system called Brad, and there isn't There's not even an a system that will allow us to call it, Brad, but it's just a little running joke. But also, you wouldn't say co pilot, would you you wouldn't call someoneilot. You just go, Hey can can I get the price of socks? You don't do it you don't really it. I'm just try to make it a bit interesting to myself. But they don't like it. Right, then I've also got a strange nose injury. Oh I don't know. It feels like someone's hit me across the face with an iron bar across the bridge of my nose I have done nothing different from we some slightly dewey shades when we did some filming. Yeah. But that can't have given me an incredibly painful nose bridge, can it F feels like I've been punched in the face. Did anyy of you punched me in the face on Tuesday without me noticing? No, we both thought about it. Withld it? Yeah, withheld from that. I didn't walk into like a bot or anything today. It didn't fall flat on my face on a brick wall. Is it on the inside? No, it's like likeike if you've picked too much. No, no, no, it's right on the outside there. feelels very p. It's not a slot, is it? No, and it's slightly swollen actually is Well, noses are very sensitive. I would say it could have been your Dwve shades. But you didn't wear them that often So I don't know whether you wore them often enough to do that, but you know, glasses can causean they? Yeah, definitely. Well, I really like painful like ' you've broken your nose. I don't know about that painful, but noses are pretty sensitive. If your glasses are too tight or too small, they can hurt your nose. I think maybe your dam shades are small. I mean, they do make you look like a cyberpunk. and they have m be to by every girlfriend you've ever had. Thanks, man I've still got the sunglasses. Yeah., it was one movie. they haven't left me He who wins? Who wins? goodood question. Norm must win I those sunglasses for twenty years. Have you? Yeah, still in fashion. Big time. Oh itosts timeless Because the future is timeless, because it hasn't happened yet. Yeah. You will always look fashionable if your glasses are from the twenty second century. Exactly That's what they look like. Yeah, o, cyberpunks aren't fashionable. How'd you know you've never met one They don't exist yet. For people wanting who designy glasses Are they Raybuns? No, they're Philip K Dicks actually, they're different blade runers T paintting picture the mind, they're kind of like like Super wrap around, aren't they? But cool. Super wrap around. Yeah quite narrow, is it like thin, but they really go all the way around. You dark, so shy. And you can imagine going really fast in space. Sort of front nineteen ninety eight. shhooting aliens. Yeah, but they do look like you shouldoot they do actually And it's all alien guts on your windscreen. Yeah O your spac shhip. Which is somehow rickety despite it being in the future. Yeah. I never quite understood it.'ve a lot of flottles in science fiction. Yeah. Oh ye, very That's a good observation, John. Thanks. Rickety spaceships. Yeah. They're always sort of falling apart and you think, I'm not sure that's what spaceships are. it implies that there's like it implies that there's a really big Healthy second hand spaceship market. Yeah, with just sort of spare parts. Lort of buying a spaceship on autorade and it's a hundred and fifty million miles. Like that would not be allowed with a plane let alone a spaceship. And you got on board if you got on board a Boeing seven forty seven And it was like a renegade captain swigging space juice out of a canister And there's like sort of rusting panels everything kind of wobbles. I'm not I need to say, whereere did you get this? There's a Facebook marketplace in Ria and it hasn't busted its space MOT. You' like Well, I'm not going Yeahah, I'm fine actually most spaceships tend to be brand new. Yeah when the spaceship sort of when you're approaching top speed, the pilots say shuck can handle this they,, well, don't do it then. Yeah, don't do it then Yeah U Drop down to fourth gear Right I think it's time for us to connect Oh we missed this last week because of the big Royal Albert Hall stuff, Mad So it was mad. It feels like a fever dream now at this stage, doesn't it? Yeah. So we didn't actually come reconnect last week withith good reason, but good reason. I come we connected big time in the chale With Mark with Mark Whales p of the Aberder, Nexus Wales may not be taking part in the World Cup, but one man is still carrying the expectation of the country on his shoulders. That man is Ellice James. Can he do his nation proud? Can he connect with his fellow country folk? It's time to find out in the Cumry Connection. It another Cection perfection But his questions have one direction? Where did you go to school You look d it Even s Come on mate you must do No we've never met at all Before we get going into this week's connection, some words of encouragement from Keith in Rippen Rrippon in Yorkshire. Yeah Good morning, my three Balon door winners. Oh Comparing Ellis's performance to football tables is very hasas a goalkeeper ever won the ballandor? Lev Jashin. Great as he knows The only goalkeeper have ever won the ballandor Yeah Russian goalie in the sixties, the greatest goalie of all time That's good knowledge. He does know his stuff.. He's not blagging this stuff. but he is in Comaring Eis's performance to football hasn't been a Galkeepers win PFA sort of player of the year or the football writers player the year boring. not never south never south but never never lost gold Really In nineteen eighty five, God he was good there. He was the best guy in the world, then. Was he? Yes Comparing Ellis's performance to football tables is very encouraging for Ellis, working on a forty eight point eight percent win rate with no draws, gives Ellis the following compared to the twenty five twenty six final football tables a better winnerate than Craig Bellamy, current manager of the wheels squad. Okay Not that I'm using that top oford. Premier League. thirty eight matches, possible one hundred and fourteen points, forty eight point eight percent gives fifty five point six three points, putting Ellis in seventh place just above Sunderland qualifying for the Europa Lague. This is good. He's delighted. I like this Championship forty six matches, possible one hundred and thirty eight points, forty eight point eight percent give sixty seven point three, four points, putting Ellis in ninth place out of the playoffs but above Swansey. Yeah, I was going to say better than the swwans. Yeah. Hope John agrees with the maths. Keep up the good work as it keeps me going twice a week while I listen to working from home. Keith R in North Yorkshire, say, hello to Ripppen for me, Keith, I you've been there. It's the obviously it's the inability of a draw. It's either win or los, isn't it? Yeah. But you're Europera League. That's hu. Yeah. pleased with that I'd love to be in Europer Lague. But it does suggest that there are what six teams much better at Comboryonnection than you. Arsenal pretty much know everyone in Wales.. Yes, of course. I think Ripond might be the second smallest cathedral city after St. David. After St. David? Well, there's also Stt Asir. They' both very small. Okay. A few weeks ago, Ellis made a swift connection to callall of Faith who was related to the King of Mertha, Johnny Owen. I currently connected via John Owen in the PulmcCarneyQ his connection rate up to forty eight point three one percent. After a week of no come reconnecting, can Ellis resume where he left off Or will his time out have affected his ability to connect? Let's find out. We have a caller online from Wales. What's your name caller when she Could you repeat that for me, pleasean Gwuenianne. Yeah. Gwen is okay. A lovely name, Gwuenlyanne. Consider that for the kids. Alice my daughter. You have sixty seconds to find a mutual connection with Gwenianne. Your time starts now. Is your school? twenty eight El Hoods Ballet School Birmingham twenty eight and you grew in Birmingham, but you're called Gwen Lan. okay so you got watch parents Yes. I lived in Cardiff. it was bor in school Oh right, okay. U what you're twenty? what do you do for a living Dance of the Bally Cry You're a dancer a ballet Kamry. Oh my I know aboutina, but she's retired. Where do you live Cardiff. Which part of Cardiff I just moved toin Camon as well. Canton. Do you know Mike Bubbins? You lived in Campton? No. Okay. Pinth Do you know my friend Sarah Breeze? She lives in Canton Pinarth No. Okay. Baly Gamry. Have you performed at the Millennium Center Yeah Oh, what's the name of us? What? U Okay, what did you study you went to university? PE by Oxford O University Open University stuck. There's an assumption there that a ballet dancer wouldn't know a retired ballet dancer Yeah I mean, she would now be in a mid fortty sh. I know retired comedians. Who's the retired Bllied derll She she was Kosuski and she lived with my friend Steve. So shake No. Okay. She was a scouser and she was obviously I can imagine very good at b. Yeah. twenty eight. is important to me. Do you know of any connections? Yeah, I think there's quite a few. There's two different routes, I think from work and through family. So through work, I think you know Carl Chappel. Oh.ave you H he painted you Yeah, over the last ten years, I've workved with him modernough. He's launched his B byro. That's quite a tough one though, isn't it? But Car Chel has not made an appearance and he will have painted lot a lot of people in Wales. Yeah. Why are you so frustrated with that? Because isn't that quite a leap to have got that for? Carl's a good friend of mine. he's an absolutely fantastic figurative painter. Yeah He's painted me actually. He'sainted he painted a very, very funny painting of Lloyd Langford dress as a banana. And he exhibits often at the Mhemleth Comedy Festival. He's offered to paint me, but I think I was in a bad mood when I got the Y Gotta get him in a good mood. Gotta get through there. I can't stress that enough But he's He's fasted by human movement, so he over the last probably ten years hes started painting ballad dancers So his his exibitions are amazing because they can They can get into pses and ships that I can't. I was sitting in a chair U And I should have I should have thought you Welsh and you're a balladin sir Okay. So through my family as well. I think you'd have probably found this link there quite easily. Who's that then Janton. So my dad's from Chan Roust and a musician used to be saker This It does' look M Rberts, is it No, the other one, Pul kid. A I don't actually know Paul. I didn't go down parent. I didn't go down parent Allie. Your dad was in the ketiff, that That's really cool and you're a By dancer. You've had a good life Oh my Godd. Any other family connections? I think that's it, but through M, I would have known quite well and through music ub maybe Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but no. especially Oh Well, you do have a very interesting life, Gwen. What what have you got plans for the future? what's post ballet I don't know at the moment. so I'my currently studying with the OU but we've got quite a few performances I'm still performing and I hope to keep performing for the next few years as long as my body holds up really. What's the natural sort of retirement age for a ballet dancer? Can you just go on and on A I would say thirties, mid thirties for Sas that. Saska was thirty five and it's been like being a footballer because supp it's so hard on the body, you eventually pick up injuries and things. What are your toes like just in general? Is that a part' r to look at? An ex of mine had been ballet dancer in her toes were an absolute My toes are still black from the hly heart. Yeah, my toes are black from the marathon still. but they still are. they they're not improving. When I was on the holiday, like at the pool, they looked like I hadd frostbes. It looked like I'd comeone to Portugal to recover from frostbite. Do you look like you've got frostbite, Gwen Sounds m big yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. So when do weorry started doing. My sister did by for years and years. She started when she was about three. so you must have been something similar, I suppose It started when I was four and then I went to like you know the professional school when I was about even, I got a scholarship to go and study. So I studied professionally full time for eight years until I was eighteen. Wow amazing stuff. Well, thank you very much for your call. Thank you Oh Gy going Lian. Yeah Well yeah, I'm not sad because that that's you threw the pen across the room. That was frustration. Yeah differenterent emotions, Dave. They are, they are But I think I've enjoyed hearing about Quintlely An's story, but I didn't I don't know her father. I just know who her father is and have listen to her d's records. So So There was a band called A Kf and Mark from Akirf was the main songwriter in Catatonia. Right. Okay. So a Kf for a Welsh language band. And then when they split up Caris Matthews and they formed Catonia Cool yeah So would that have counted as a connection as he was in a band un No it would obviously Carl Chapppel, I've known Carl for over twenty years. it would be one step too removed. yeah it wouldn't Guenlian'sa would have worked. But the ballet artists would have would have got you. have got you the connection. Well, Gwenian, thank you so much for joining us. There'll be another connection next week. And loveve lost my band Okay, before we play a made up game, do you want to hear an absolutely horrible facts? Is it going to depress me or disturb me? Dpress me or disturb. S you're fine. Did you know The Beatles' first album, Please Please Me, was released closer to the eighteen hundreds than to the present day. F december thirty first, eighteen ninety nine to march twenty second, nineteen sixty three is twenty three thousand and ninety one days, march twenty second, nineteen sixty three to june eleventh, twenty twenty six is twenty three thousand and ninety two days passage of time Yeah, I'm kind of numb to all that stuff now because there's quite a few of those now that like don't they are crazy. Yeah. Even the three lines thing when you first hear that the way it's's another thirty years on and all that from the thirty years of heard. Yeah sixty years of heard. It's sixty years it's all a bit mad whereereas now when I hear those, it's kind of like, yeah, it's all rubbish. It's not it's real We're all just getting so old. It just reminds me of the locking poem that John's always quoting was that? I've started to say quarter of a century back Yes, it's like falling and recovering in huge gesturing loops through an empty sky. He's got that on a t shirt and he bought it for a b' comp. What sort of message is that But I was thinking the other day, like maybe one of the reasons that old as you get older, you sort of do less adventurous stuff It's because you're like got enough memories already. that's terrible out. No, I don't think is that. I think I think that is depressing. It's like I've got enough to go over. No, I can't think it is adding to this No it's it's disordering. It's It's you become more risk averse because more bad things happen to you Yeah. bad things happen yes, as as they did Yeah like I get my algorithm is Like horses fasting. And horses fasting. No, and mad lads jumping off bridges. Yeah, I get the mad lads. Yeah. A twenty, I think I could have been persuaded to jump off a bridge Yeah now Absolutely no chance. There's a big cliff in dove holes up north And we all went there when we were like sixteen, seventeen. and jumped off these cliffs with gay abandon. and I look back now and I think, well, hey, no way am I doing that now? Yeah. But even back then I think what was going through your head that you thought that? You just don't think of it. But also I don't think of it now I think Okay, what if I break my leg pain of it, there's the wait for the ambance, under the recovery it's gonna affect work, it's going to be a nightmare with the kids. Izzy's going have to do everything whilst I'm in all that kind. I'm not talking about doing daredevil stuff or risky stuff. I'm just talking about doing anything. Yeah but you've got bl people have bad hips and think, I can't be So's what you talk? You're like what theory I don't think anyone thinks I've got enough memories? Yeah becausecause it's not it's not all about the memories. it's about doing it as well. Drip down memory, drip down memory, drip down memory, lane, lane. Oh yeah, song. Well's for example song again. There's a festival's a fest shaking head because shed loves to sm song so much and she's forgotten that nodding is the positive and shaking is the negative She's the way around. There's a festival with a line ar. Do you want to hear me or not? You ask me a question, then immediately interrupt the answer. But did this tripped down memory lane lan. But it's not the tripped down memory lane lane song, it's the debrief Sorry, Alice. He's incapable of being sucinct. That's why I wasn't on the call with the accountant Beause he makes a valid point, and then he'll tell you about his friend Jeff, who used to be a cold delivery guy, so knew what that was? He was the son of a cold delivery guy So I like go a festival this year with a really good lineup. And like there's probably a world in which I could wangle a ticket to be sold out U But then I thought, well, you've done lots of gigs at festivals as a comedian including this one And then there were all the festivals you went to in your early twenties. Yeah. Then there were the festivals you went to like Reading and Leeds when you were sixteen, seventeen I've been to enough. You've got all you've sort of filled up the bank. I don't want to create a if I create a fourth festival age, that makes me feel even older. because I've got more strata to go through. That's different. That's not that's just not enjoying the You wouldn't enjoy The experience is much. It's a great lineup But the toilets would bother you and all that. no, because Sa Portolo You'd buy a portcel. I'd find my own portceler and take it and carry it. S buy a porcelu Okay Like I could go I could get like a yt Yeah with the better toilets, which I could never have afforded previously. Of course. Yeah. So but my thinking is The more ages I have where I do stuff like that. The more then when I think of festivals, it'll be like, well, you had your festival period when you were sixteen, then when you were twenty two then when you were a comediian, and now you've got your forties festivals to think about. It's good, isn't it surprise. Wh Wh The question Wh whereere's the negative? You've got more things to think about. You've got more things to enjoy doing. Mad Tatitudes are your memories Don't think about it as a memory collection exercise. Think about it as' a memory collection bec yeah, it's almost it's the result. The result is the memories, but you need to think of it as wouldould I enjoy this festival enough to go? it Darl Jhns is playing. Right, You love Darl. Youbsol Tw things prereord the show though. Oh in this case absolutely not. thinkink about the memories, Jo. Wh why youer go? and have a positive experience Or you stay at home. And what happens then? But the thing is I'm not going to remember staying at home because it's like every day. So it's almost like I don't age if I just stay at home because there's no more stuff. I've been to a few funerals lately. And I'm not dying. No, no, but quite often someone say, you know, at the end of the eulogy some must say, goh, that was a life a life well lived yourour f R's going. It was a life where we lived for a bit and then he decided not to make any more memories because he had enough. Yeah. from the age of forty four to death, and he just sat alone because he did not greatate Too many extra memories. Do know do you know what will happen with this approach? Let's see your sitification and death Well when you get to eighty. Yeah, and I think you might you will healthy now. We'll still be podcasting, having a great time. We'll still be podcasting the Alps by then, John Yeah, we've just got to across our fingers. There's no downsides to vaping. Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it too When you get to eighty, with this attitude and approach, you will look back and you'll go, I cannot believe at the age of forty four I thought that was me done. I'm not say Yes me done. You kind of are I just I'm just saying you' kick yourself. You will, You're a young man. I remember my dader coming to Latitude with me in pretty weeks. That's sevententy. I remember we went to visit Uncle Frank Uh, it wasn't my uncle. Um He was like almost ninety and dad was in his mid forties and dad said, I'm too old to do that. And he said, No, you're not. Yeah I'm old. Yeah, yeah. I'm eighty nine. You're forty three. You've got to live it. But I'm not saying I'm too old and I don't want to live. I was just saying that the idea of going to a festival did make me think That's going to make me feel older 'cause it's more know. Bardmasters you go into though, is it? What's that? It' like a very young person.ool. Yeah If you go into a festal where you think, you know, there's probably going to be some like minded people there and be there'll be enough mid forty year olds knocking about, I then think you'll feel fine. you' At the nineteen seventy nine Glassbury Festival you felt Radi because everyone had been sixteen. Now festivals are full of people in their forties and fifties. Very true.. I litude. All right, I'm going. We pre record firstirst week of September Yeah But I also need to source a ticket Okay. C speak to Dave. C speak. Can I speak to you about it? Yeah, come speak to Dave about that it. Okay And throw some money at Portalu. Yeah, and everything's fine. Is Dave the name of AI I just might be able to help. Okay. I've got fingers in pies Okay right, let's play a made up game. Okay, we have a new jingle. O! Is it by Ellice? It's not, but we'd like one by Ellice. Well that's fun. Yeah. Do do the memory nameame one Trip down memory, trip down memory, trip down memory. Lane, lane, lane, not three. Not three. Or we could just keep it going lane, lane There you go. So it's another one from prolific Jingle maker Matt Black wrritten a great album of made up gaming jingles that we return to every now and then with another spe with an kn. an No No, I get it though. ye. No, it's not As in that black paint. Tam down memory late down memory M late Matt Black. keeps we've got an album's worth. His album should be called Matt in Black. Oh yeah. ye. yeah I'll do more. I'll do more. One more, please? Okay. She might to wait for a bit U Yeahah, so it's another jingle. So can you guess let's play a little game Can you guess Which this track that Matters wrritten is inspired by. Here we go, hit it off. slowly. This is tricky, but it'sgetable. There'hing do station or you've reached the end of conversation. That's the perfect situation made up gate. Let play made up game g Made up gamess play a made up gamess play a made up gate H we gonna band up g They get us su made It's great. I mean, there's very poppy. Elements of the beautiful South. Yeah. Elements of the shins. Oh at the thrills. Do remember them? I do remember the thrills. Big sir. Yeah. yeah I reviewed Big sir for the school the University magazine. Did you? for the chairwell? Just don't go? Yeah yeah, that was a great sign I would have it up Perfect summer album. you. Yeah I used that phrase far too many times. I saw I saw them live, but I only saw them once becausecause I didn't wantanna make too many memories I saw them in Cardiff at the student Union. I was like, That that's now ye. Don't I get bogged down by all those heavy memories Did you'all to know? Yeah. Inspired by George Harrison in his cloud nine era. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah The jingler' called pererfect Situation. Matt, we've got a little treat for you at the end of the made upp game, so if you are listening, stick around because we've done something a little bit a little bit special given how amazing you've been with these various jinglers leve sent over the years. Of course he's gonna stick around. He's just heard his song. He's not half our audience at the Royal Albert Hall for a good bit and then get and leave Yeah, you two are jousting. and I It's funny. I sa it in the screenshot. I thought it hilarious. This guy on ready it was like, I hate asunder. Shall I leave during the interval? Is that fair? People going No, not really, donon't go. they do come do come. Yeah. I mean, not if you hate that. I cannot express that en. Yeah. ye. Okay, so scores on the doors John was contentiously awarded the victory in last week's game of What's upp with the World Cup That I don't think it's content. I think was fair and justified. That took was scores to fifteen loves to John in the second game of the third set. Ellis leading one game to love, John leading two sets to love overall So you're still up in games, Alllice and this is get backackable. This is getet Backerool, okay?. This week's game comes in from Izzy. Hello my precious puppets. Whats, how are you Please give each other or yourselves a gentle hug on my behalf. That's nice. You're all brave, strong, beautiful boys with kind souls and lovely teeth. It's all going to be okay or at the very least, it'll be broadly fine You can do that I needed to hear that this way. You can do that if you feel overwhelmed actually just self soothe, give yourself a bit of a hug. Yeah you can do it in public if you want, but you know, just at home go' okay, buddy Yeah, Okay It does feel quite nice, is' it? Yeah Yeah, o. Thankks, Izzy. Yeah, I'd liked that actually. That was the pep in the step that I needed. Inspired by the recent foray into common ents on the pod, I wondered if a new game was afoot, maybe No, I said that wrong. I wondered if a new game was afoot, maybe. Oh maybe because of the maybe guy. That's what she's doing. Yeah That makes sense. Sorry, that's my delivery iser. You wrote it brilliantly. The game is called Now this is tricky The game is called Proverb or nverb Or proverb and no verb. Either way one of them is going to work and one of them's not. I think it's proverb or no verb. Yeah, but then you kind of mix you' kind of crossing the stream Yeah I supposes like Potter or not I remember that game you made. One of our first ones? Similar to that game. This is similar. And it's great. and by the way, Izzy has gone through a lot of effort here to make this game fantastic. So thank you for thinking it up. A proverb is said out loud and Ellis and John have to decide whether it's a proverb, a real ancient proverb, or a no no verb somethingomething I have made up Point for each correct answer, ten rounds, the person with the most points at the end of the game wins' going to be quite quick fire this. Is it real? Is it not? Where's Izzy sourcing her proverbs from? do you know? all over the world, o and beyond There's a coffee sh near my house and it's just got all those terrible sort of signs all over the w, you know, I need a I need a six month vacation Let me see yeah. That's not a proverb. It's a f. Well, hang on, I need a six month vacation to Oh. you're always always child by the shoes. Lots of love. I don't think that came from the foothills of the Himalayane. No. Lots of love and small kisses on the forehead, Izzy. Pers, thank you for over a decade of content that's provided a constant in my often untethered and uncertain life. I love Izzy. She's appreciative All three of us, which is nice. Are you ready to play? Yes. Now do we need to scribble? I suppose we do unless you're just willing to be thought it's quuickfire. Yeah it's quuick Fire. Oh you both dw across orick orx. Yeah, but you' both in play so you don't want to P and. Okay Okay. All right. Izzy's written these. they're all fantastic Round one A straight foot is not afraid of a crooked shoe 's music trickling in lovely stuff. A straight foot is not afraid of a crooked shoe Yeah Now the problem I have with that is it sounds very much like a proverb. Yeah. But it's not actually true. Literally it's not. I think is he's good at this game. Well, yeah, well, absolutely. 'cause a straight fooot is scared of a crooked shoe W do well, yeah. Okay, I've made my decision. Me too. Okay. John, I've got noverb. N verb. N verb. I think's absolute Guff. Guff, Nverb. The answer proverb. Real Chinese proverb meaning a righteous man is not afraid to seem unrighteous Yeah, but a straight foot is afraid of a crooked shues it would hurt. U uness they were crocs straight fooot is not afraid of a crookie. Well no, I think a straight fooot is is willing to accept a crooked shoe If it's just all, justust put up with a little bit of it They're not afraid, it's actually welcoming the crookedness. Well, I get that in terms of sort of in a spiritual sense Like if you're in the right mindset, it doesn't really matter what happens. However It would be uncomfortable if you had a crooked shoe and a straight foot. Yeah this'. It won't be as qu a fire as we had hoped, but that's fine. Okay, but it's Nil Nil. Nil Nil Round two A chair placed in silence. begins to suspect. Forgin sorry. A chair placed in silence begins to suspect it has a past. made my decision, onene of the quickest decisions I've ever made And I was once quoted to gam for house insurance Aice N verb. John, I've got no verb. It is made up by Izzy that's N verb. I need to be better at the delivery there because ye's It's good. It's a good. I'd like to meet Izzy though. Yeah,ot of mind. Yeah. Round three Every answer leaves behind the shape of a better question Every answer leaves behind the shape of a better question I'm just gonna google a Welsh one. I've made my decision. Yeah, I've made my decision. John, I've got an proverb, Ellice. I've gotone proverb actually. Okay, so either way, one of you' gonna start to pull away now. That person is John. It was made It's an iszy special. Oh And it's Do't make sense. it's really good. It's good. It's very good, becauseuse you could argue some proverbs that't really make sense, John U Well I've got issues with the shoe one But you know, if I said, what's the square root of a hundred? Yeah. And he said ten That's not leaving behind the shape of a better question Not in that instance, no, no, no. Every answer leaves behind the shape of a better qu. Okay. But it's a very good fake pro It is.. But there's also like if you ever read proverbs from other languages, well this is it. Yeah. there's different interpretation. That's true. Au Gadu Voyi, which means he who steals an egg will steal more. Yeah See some of it gets a little bit lost in translation.en Bid Bont, I think Bid Bont, which means let he who is a leader let him be a bridge. But that's a guy agreement on both of those. Round four A stone throne at the right time betteretter than gold given at the wrong time D try that again, please st here you can't. a stone throne at the right time Better than gold given at the wrong time Deision day. is final Alice' come you first, please. N verb, N verb from Alice Proverb, Proverb from John He's pulling away it's a proverb Answer, realal? Persian proverb. Oh nice. Value of good timing. is what it represents. And also value of items. The problem is I'm now not trying to work out if the proverb works. I'm trying to get inside Izzy's mind. 'cause if I offered you a kilo of gold, ye or a piece of rope Right now, you would take the kilo of gold. if you were trapped in a big well. Yeah, or in doinguring a nuclear winter Yeah Yeah, you'd take the rope. Be I actually wrote proverb and I crossed it wet Nverb because I thought I'm not sure if Izzy would make that. Someone's got a case of the Iye actually wrote Yeah Yeah, he actually wrote Okay, round five Hand that points always forget what it was holding Point always forgets what it was holding. A gone N verb. Pb No dear. It's an easy special, it's an adverb. I thought that was a good one. No. the actual one is every time you point one finger, three are pointing back at you. That's true. And also what you are holding is irrelevant to your phone. But yeah, okay stop that. I'm pointing at you. So I'm sort of saying you've done something bad. I'm judging you Two minutes ago I was holding a pen. Yeah. It's completely irrelevant Okay. Yes But it's still another great fake proverb. It is for want to Joh Round six A spoon does not know the taste of soup As a learned fool does not know the taste of wisdom. Is it learned or learned? Learned, learned A spoon does not know the taste of soup, as a learned fool does not know the taste of wisdom. U Alice. Proverb Ps Big proverb from me. Big prorobs from John it is a proverb. you know that one? Yeah. ye, this is the thing John's going to know some of these. Oh yeah.' very good. Welsh proverb meaneaning proximity to greatness does not matter if we fail to internalize and experience it ourselves. No, I've not heard that one Round seven. If you pick up one end of the stick, you also pick up the other. It's five two to John If you pick up one end of the stick, you also pick up the other. Are you ready Ell? Yes. John. Proverb, Probs. Nverb, Ns Trops African proverb. I just don't think he's wise enough. I think that's great al right, Mate, I've got a stick. No stop going on aboutdy. African Proverb, every choice comes with an inseparable consequence. Everything is connected. All right, he's quite wise here, Pverb. Gound eight a mirror Fed OnQuestions Sorry I'm going to say no verb d.e too bddlyough You shouldn't know, that's the thing. Yeah. I shouldn't know. They're so good though. A mirror fed. On question. A remember of fellow the questions growows teeth instead of answers. That's a terrifying go. I didn't mirror teeth. No it's good. It's like something You' so mad mirror Elm Street. A mirror fed O only questions Gows teeth instead of answers. Not verb. N verb. Really? Yeahah. It's an easzy special. it's a verb, but I love it. I do love it. So happ What are the school? It's seven three to you, John. So you've won but let's do the last couple. U, where where are we nine? Okay that agrees with itself. A map thatagrees with itself has already been lost It Izzy's been on the Mary Jam Very funny. John, a map that agrees with us they agreefer has already been lost. Well, there's so many problems there. Firstly, a map has to agree with itself. But a map that doesn't agree with itself Yeah. So the scales all out. Yeah the map. The places are in the wrong place, that's a problem for. That's on the map. that's not where Leeds is. Yeah also Will get you lost would perhaps follow through as opposed to the map being lost itself. becausecause a lost map isn't inaccurate. It's just annoying, so I'd get another map. Yeah. So I'm gonna to say that's a noverb, ye An It's another It's Nizzy spash. Round ten, The past is a lighthouse, not a port. Oh, I like that. a lot. The past is a lighthouse, not a por. H I like that. Has Is he finished with a flourish or is it a real proverb? Well, if it is a proverb, it can't be that ancient because I'm guessing lighthouses are I reckon they'd have had versions of lighthouses al long time. Yeah, notot like the modern ones for a bigig neon sign or something. I'm gonna go proverb just because I like it so much. Proverb. It is a proverb, realal Russian proverb, learen from the past Don't anchor yourself there. Big time or get your goods delivered there Wh just's another thing you do for a port. Oh I see sorry, yes.. ye Yeahah, yeah yeah. goodood. John wins nine five Izzy. Thank you. superb round angles. actually often that thats or thises don't work great because it's just a bit it's hard to make that the non ones kind of entertaining and funny, especially when the man reading them out laughs at all their friends. But Izzy did such a good job with it that was it was good fun. It was brillant. Sorry if yeah, sorry if I ruined it a little bit, Izzy because Yours were almost too good that I just I found very funny Great. Well there's your made up game Now we did promise Matt a little treat. Did we? Yeah, did ye. Yeah. So Matt Black is the person who has been writing us lots of fun made up games jingles that have been sprinkled sporadically through the podcast probably for the last Al days. two years, I'd say. All of his jingles for this feature are brought to you by MB Games, which Games company. That's good That is good. I Ill give you a third one. Oh yeah So Mat's been great. I think it deserved a good rate. I just thought because it was a second ago it felt mean to not give you something because you're trying. You really were trying. U S Mats As any good album would have got in the mid nineties We've got a Mark Goodyear Voded ad to go through all of your best made up games jingles as if it was an ad in the nineties. Is this not goodyear? Yeah. Here we go, Mat Well that's what I call madeade up Games themes volume one. The biggest themed tunes made for the nation's favorite feature, all penned by musical Maestro Matt Black Including Strange Rules, a Brian May inspired eight bitit megait. There's a place we can go, a crowded house crowd pleaser Perfect situation. A George Harrison inspired banger. That's the perfect situation Not as good as TV. An impressive take on a Suf and Stehvens classic. So he had an idea This one' still to come. Is it? Yeah? F game. Give it to John again, a melodic love letter to early Ben Folds five. And who could forget with your friend, a faithful reversioning of a super furry animalss classic? Blacks madeade up games themes, volume one. out now Oh That'sair play. There were Good ye. Oh good ye. How'd you do that, Dave? Well I whatsapped him. Yeah. How' have you got his number? Oh, you can get Mark's number. Can you? Yeah. that's Well you had. Lucas Marark was in the independent production scene for a while. like there was I always get this wrong. It was it wise Budha. Wise Buddha was formed by Mark Gudear. So then I obviously know people that worked at Wise Buddha and they know Mark So we got in Sarchmark. I did it in like half a day. Oh what was like Yeah go and we had it back and it was just perfect. I it would be. I used to listen to Could you introduce the or present the Chart countdown on Sunday? I. Huge. Because of his voice His voice hasn't changed. No. It just sounded sort legit. Yeah. that was amazing. Yeah it was great. Yeahah. so thank you to Mark. Thank you to Matt and a nice little treat there. And there are a couple more tracks that Matt has written. because it was like twelve tracks on the album that he sent or something. so er, very creative, but also do send your own made up games jingles in. We love ' them all. 's that And that's that. That's that goes Do one of you want to ramp Oh God, leave it like that Oh, sorry I thought we I love you. No that I mean, that's the podcast. My nose hurts and I love you. Yeah Alice Oh, I'm very concerned about John's nose. Yeah Get it checked out, Strange injury I'll see if it clears up Yeah Maybe I just headbutted someone in a dream Yes, but I wouldn't make it hurt in real life Well I might have head bututted a pillow on my wall In a dream. I think you'd have woken yourself up by headbting the wall in a dream. And I would I mean, you know I don't I wish you any harm, I would love to see it Yeah, in his bedroom thrashing around, head butts the wall, wakes up, nose bitits sore, vape Oh yeah. yeah a bit of scrabble. Oh, and of course, don't forget before we sign off, we are now about forty weeks away from the best day of my life. on Wednesday the twenty fourth of march twenty twenty seven The three of us will be performing at the Royal Albert Hall. No it's not a joke and yes it will spring on me. If you'd like to buy tickets, they are available to Patreons first on the twenty fourth of june at ten AM. Yes. They'll be Patron exclusive until Friday, the twenty sixth of June at ten AM. so if you're a patron you've got days. buy ticket and then of course they go on general sale to the general public So if you'd like to join our patreon, go to Ellis and John This hous is Jon get instructions by hand. Yes, which will contain handwritten URl which is patreonotot com slash slash John. G All saved. Good. Yes. exciting

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