Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts

The following program is brought to you by friends and partners of in Time headlines All right, what's going on guys? This is Intime headlines and it is Friday, june twelfth And we want to welcome you to tonight's program. We've got a lot to cover tonight. while here in America We are occupied But I call it the never ending story with the Iran Israel and u in America conflict keeps you know it's like the never ending story, the series that never ends and there's a deal, then there's no deal, then there's a deal. Well, we're preoccupied by that and everything else going on in America overseas, meanwhile, in in, uh, in Ireland in Belfast and across the UK There is right now a lot of unrest. there's protests, there's riots There's clashes with police and all of this has stemmed from a Sudanese asylum seeker who literally try to attempt to behead an individual in the streets of Ireland and today we've got a very special guest We got Gary McKiban coming on who is in ground zero there And he's going give us some firsthand insight into this very thing that is happening over there. So we want to go ahead and bring him into the program and before we let him loose Uh We're going to introduce him before we do that, you know the drill guys, help us out. hit that like button. On YouTube, you guys listened by Alpple by Spotify. You can hit that like, hit that review. that's the same as hitting the like button on YouTube And all this is going to push us out on the algorithm so other people can find us. So Gary, U thank you for taking the time. I know that you're feeling a little bit under the weather today and I know it's getting late there, but I appreciate you taking the time out to come on to the program so you can let us as Americans Kn the situation that's going on. Yeah, of course, it's no bother at all. In furnace, it's a very important conversation to have. There's a lot going on, so I'm glad to be here. Great. Now Gary real quick in case there may be someone on here and they may be finding you for the first time. Can you let them know where to find you U you know, how to follow you and keep up with your ministry Yeah, u Eiest way is on Facebook. J pastor Gary McKibbin on Facebook. I will come up. You can go to our website victorychurchbelfast. com We're also on Facebook. We've got a Victory Church online group on Facebook And we're on rumble I think we're on techTk, but I don't know how to operate TikTok so somebody else has takaking care of that. So yeah, you can you can connect this in all of those areas I get it. Well, look, the first thing Before we get into this, U we want to know, are you okay? Are you safe? how how are things there your're, you know, where you live there Yeah, that yeah, I'm safe. you know, that The truth of this is is that what you're seeing on your TV screens There are But there's protests everywhere. there'll be protests starting U sort of seven PM R time Um There will be There are plenty of peaceful protests and then we've seen the other element of that in terms of where they are. there's, you know, I'm in I live in a fishing village now U There have been smaller protests here All peaceful. If you go in toward where the church is and around the Belfast area, that's where you've seen U a lot of the footage from Qite a lot of the houses that were burnt out were in East Belfast, That's where our churches So that was some one of the things that was happening is that individuals were going around door to door looking for U immigrants and burning the house st and whilst There's an awful lot to discuss that's under and behind all of this Um, Nothing like that, no violence and destruction of property can ever be the right way to go. That's that's we don't condone that in the slightest Um But I think what we're seeing on the grind Its It's a population veryer much ignored by those in power ignored by Westminster, ignored by Stormant over here And I'll get into how that works politically, but also ignored by Dublin and In that sense, we've had our conditions set outside the parameters of our own Um our own will. And what is happening is that the The population has been kind of up in arms for a while, quite there was protest last year, there were protests the year before protest last year were to do with an essA regarding a a migrant upon a minor U and that's That's not really isolated. because what is happening is they'll take the governments are putting people into hotels and those hotels are becoming uh full of, you know Let's say a contingent of a certain age and They're going out and unfortunately Unfortunately, what is happening is it is it. It is basically coming against the people who are born and bred here and People don't feel safe And there has to be some sort of balance in this. There's a balance in understanding that racism is wrong, that attacking Hausers is wrong, but at the same time, There has to be an ownership, in my opinion, by the political class that they have ignored the population for so long. and I know of cases that didn't make the news in which They're very similar to what we saw on Monday night and You know, what we saw Monday night was barbaric. You know, Okay for just just for sake of argument Let's just say Uh because look, I'm American. I know how Americans are Maybe there's someone coming onto the podcast, they're watching, or maybe they're listening. They don't know the backdrop. They don't know the backstory. Can you catch us up and get us up to speed with from what you're I'm getting the consensus that this has been a powder keg there in Ireland and across UK. and this is something that's been building up, building up, building up. and then the incident which I want you to elaborate on and it just and this was the the spark that just exploded and what has led to what is going on recently Yeah, well, the probably first port of call is to understand that Northern Ireland is not responsible for its own immigration laws. So I had somebody say this online earlier to me that You voted for these leaders, now live with it. I mean The ignorance in that statement was very apparent because Northern Ireland is a devolved government So we don't get to vote ourur leaders do not set immigration policies. ourur immigration policies are set by Westminster U And what you have to understand as well is the situation that we're set up in So A Brexit Northern Eland sat in a unique place because we've got the Republic of Ireland And the Republic of Ireland is part of the European Union, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom So What you have is If if I go back to the troubles You know, when I was brought up, there was a hard border between north and south. neeither isn't. literally how you know you go over the border is The road signs change from kilometers per hour to miles per hour and That's how you know you're in the North So what happens now is that you're getting And we've actually seen advertisements of this on social media where are those who have sought asylum have said how easy it is to get into the UK through Northern Ireland. So what they do They'll fly and specifically with this individual who committed this heinous crime on Monday, he flew from He went through Paris, then from Paris to Dublin And then literally you get on a bus and you come up to Belfast and you claim what's happening is they're claiming asylum. That puts them under the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom goovernment and that gives them certain rights, it gives them certain economic benefits, it can give them housing and so on and so forth. And this is upsetting the local you know the local contingent A add into what is already a political Um complicated situation. There's a socio economic divide in this in Northern Ireland So those who are maybe middle class. and maybe living in the suburbs of places in which they're not affected by mass immigration or asylum seekers being housed next to them in what is known as HMOs, you know, this multiple occupancy house. U situation, you know, you you get maybe ten or twelth in a house U And they're living out in the suburbs. they tend to take their approach that this has nothing to do with them, that you know, really that anybody who's reacting like this is racist And that's wrong, right? And that's wrong. And that's what happened a year ago, that's what happened two years ago we had those in power sort of turn around and say that anybody who protests is right wing. This is not about being right wing. This is about Protection of children, protection of individuals. you know, Stehen Oglevy, the individual who was and I'll get into the specifics of this, who was attacked on Monday Well he was what is classed as a vulnerable adult. He had hearing issues. classed as a vulnerable adult attacked by this individual. and some of the reports have said and it's heartbreaking that when he was attacked, he's saiding, why are you doing this? And the individual was on top of him trying to saw off his head. Yeah And This is what I'm saying is the nuances of this is to understand first that Northern Ireland sits in a unique geographical position Um And because of that, Dublin and certainly Sinfin in Ireland have an open border policy. they basically say take as many as we get And what's happening is they're coming up into the north, they're coming up into onto the United Kingdom soil. and as such they're claiming Asy them here and then they're put into certain areas. And these all tend to be the same areas whether they're loyalist or nationalist, whether so busy whether they're Potestant or Catholic. they're put into those areas. that area on Monday night, that's Ardorne. That's a Catholic nationalist area, very heavily nationalist Um and what we had there is there's people there's parents who who are legitimately concerned And then the news rhetoric and the political pundits are coming out saying, no, no, no, no, no. if you protest this It's racist. I've had people that I know. turn right and say, well What about the crimes white people commit and the Nationals commit So you're singling this person out because he's not from the area. No But what you're effectively saying is is that we don't have enough crime of ourselves. So let's import The criminals and import the ideology behind the criminal intent And that is what is upsetting people. and it's heartbreaking and it's heartbreaking when you start to see All of the things that have happened Um This is the Henry Nova case that you've put up here on the mainland Um The Henry Nova case, that was a siake involved and off the back of that Right en off out in the straight because under religious freedom, Sikhs are allowed to carry blades We had A a g quite near the church maybe a mile away from the church, we had individuals dancing, seeks in public in a car park dancing with their knives and parading their knives Wow, whichich is up people as well because If that was someone local carrying a knife, they would be automatically arrested. but under the political correct nature of things, people are allowed to express themselves and to say that they're not allowed to express themselves in a certain way you as reassist our right wing. Now this type of thing The burning of the buildings, you know, the fires, the the attack upon the police and stuff like that that we're seeing night after night This isn't this isn't right right? There's no there's no doubt about it. This isn't right. But again, I think to turn around and just say right wing. is adding fuel to the far It's adding to the frustration because the problem is is people are feeling like they're not heard. I'll tell you a story. I was, um We do a homeless outrage and I was and I had my sister with me and we end up talking to this lady and we you know, because we go out, we feed and all of this and And she was like, o look, I'm not homeless and' just on the streight tonight And we said, So why are you on the street tonight? And she said, It's my niece's Shinner and We said, oh, I'm really sorry to hear that. What happened? And she said she broke down crying. she said that Her throat was slit And initially she was told by the authorities that it was an attempted it was a suicide U and her argument was that's not that's not what how you commit suicide? That's not how you do that. and Basically it transpired that it was an illegal asylum seeker. It was an illegal immigrant that came up and actually there was an extual manhunt for this individual after that So that's what I'm saying. the news will come out and say, isolated instents right wing soakery And don't get me wrong, Th things that we're seeing on TV, that is thugery, right But if you keep rallishing people with labels, you're missing the the frustration that's under that the surface, the frustration behind it and the frustration behind it is that we are that the populace are ignored by those in power, by those in Westminster and by those in Dublin And therefore, Northern Ireland, as we don't set our own immigration policies, are having everything forced upon them and then the people have got to the point and the big slogan that is coming up continually is enough Enough is enough Um, when you have individuals afraid to let their children out or Women are afraid to go into certain areas that needs to be addressed. And I think like, I'm sorry for talking so long, but I am passionate the guess but ahead I think what we're seeing here, in my opinion and this is where it sort of comes into play all the way around the world If you go back to nineteen seventeen and the Bolshevik Revolution, one of the things that transpired from that was the Red Green Alliance, right? So you had two different ideological concepts. you had Marxist communism and you had Islam. The two should not mix Both combined for one reason and they combined for the reason of stripping away Judeo Christian principles. And it was part of the Cold War agenda, Cold War strategy. so Russia would adopt this strategy and destabilizing democracies, destabilizing those areas built on Judeo Christian principles. This is what we've seen. This is what we're seeing here. This is what we're seeing in the UK, Ireland. This is what we see in Europe. This is what we see in America that it is take New York The Red Green Alliance and in that, they're using immigration, legal immigration or open border policies as the useful hammer, in my opinion to deconstruct the old or the current world order in order to build something new This is then propagated up by creating division amongst the populace Divide a Iperia, divide and rule is a political concept that is as old as time, right? You go back to Julius Caesar, he used it. Genghis Khan used it. If you look at the British Empire in India, they split the excuse me, the Muslims and the Hindus and they basically went to one side and said, they said this and went to another side and said, they said this to create division. Why? Because if you have an elite ruling class, what for their ease and how the elite stay in power is they divide the populace. If the populace are always in fighting then they're never combined to resist those her behind the marinetette's sort of strings and pulling everything What you've got is two tier placing and two tier judicial system pushed upon us for the purpose of causing Divation of continually stoking the fire labeling people as right wing or racist again to stoke the fire The truth of this is Big enemy and I turn people maybe disagree with me, but the big enemy in all of this are those who are sitting with the judicial and political power to reconstruct society. They're the ones that I have problems with. Now not all politicians, I'm saying there's definitely some good Christian politicians here who are standing against this, who have petitioned Kir Starmer for a change to immigration laws, who have went and talked to him to try and get him to do something to help remedy the situation In terms of the United Kingdom, I don't think there has been As much of a tone death later in number ten as we have right now I think he is completely toned deaf to what the popula say, the people want them out, noody wants them there The other side of that is if he's replaced, who's he replaced with? if this is an ongoing agenda sorry for speaking for so long No, you're fine. Uh, You know, I got to be honest when We were looking at those that footage of the The bus is burning, the city's burning and the protests. You know, here in America, it brings back the days of Antifa, Black Lives Matter and There was so much stigma around that that what was what's shocking to me is the amount of protections that certain groups in ideology get U versus, you know, like here in America, for example, the mainstream media goes above and beyond with political correctness like If there is a situation it happens and it is abundantly obvious that it's an act of terrorism, from from a certain And I'm trying to really be selective my words here because I want to be I want to be sensitive to you because I don't want to, you know, put you in danger. but a certain a religious faith, I don't even call it a religious faith. I call it an ideology. But if it's a situation where you know that this was carried out by that group We know it, the populace knows it, the the average individual knows it, but the mainstream media Uh, the news Uh, the news outlets, the the talking heads, the punds The politicians, the governors, the mayors, all of them, they will go out of their way to call it anything but what it is U Yeah and it's amazing and and and it's so it's no different where you're at. we see the same thing and I think that's shocking Um And we know, you and I both know it's only going to get worse. You look at I mean, there's parts of Europe where this is completely gone to to, you know, to maximum levels of this stuff. Look what's happening in Australia. and as we get closer and closer to, you know, let's bring a little bit of a a biblical aspect to this As we get closer to the time of the end, the end of the age and closer to the rature and the revealing of the Antichrist, We know that the mystery of lawlessness or iniquity We continue. So this is in my opinion, this has been here since the days of Noah The whole earth, Here's what's interesting, Gary. The whole earth was filled with violence according to the Bible. And that word violence is Hamas I'm just saying. so it's a parallel. There's nothing new under the sun. We know it's only going to intensify and it's only going to increase. So the question is, I think this is the question that should be, you know, one of the questions we should ask for all of us here in America and where you're at is Knowing this, how are we how are we supposed to navigate through this I mean, do we walk through eggshells? You know, what do we say? That's one part. I'm going give you the second part and I'll let you answer this is are you seeing a crackdown because I know it here in America U Under the last administration, it was really bad. Now when Trump came in It's not as bad on social media because a lot of these tech giants kind of You know, they're kind of like a sale. They put their sail up and wherever the political winds are blowing, they're going to cater to that. And when Trump came in and he was against, you know, the censorship of social media and the shadow banning all this Well Zuckerberg and and at that time Jack Dorsey was booted out, someomebody else took over well, Elon Musk took over X. so it's it's more freedom of speech there. So, you know, they're kind of catering to the president the who's inter term. Now We're getting ready to come up on midterm elections in November And then, you know, we got another two years and then who knows who's going to come in And if they're, you know, if it's a liberal Uh You know, what's that going to look like on social media? But are you seeing because of this incident, are you seeing a lot of censorship on social media as well? I know that was a lot. It was a two phone quest. So no one. Yeahah, goo ahead, goo ahead If you remember one I can remember the last bit and definitely in terms ofhip. Um there there is, right? So there is already now Previously it was just a few days before There was the announcement that there's regulation coming in on all social media platforms. The UK government came out and refed they kind of get this ambiguous definition of what social media is in terms of this is the sixteen years and under ban. social media is defined as that which you can share content on, which Effectively is every website So what they're bringing in is age verification. Now that's one step that was already in play Now Liz Kendall, the Secretary of State for Science and Technology, has turned round and said that As of next week, she's going before Parliament to address basically crisis censorship, online crisis censorship because what the problem is And you've heard this, the video of the attack upon Stephen Oglevy Um was horrendous, right? I saw it first thing in the morning when it had just happened, but it was passed through social media Sord government both in One section of the community within stormment here and in Westminster have said No one should say that They're saying it's for our safety, but what they're really saying is if you see this then you might be upset and you might have a reaction to this And therefore they're trying to bring in crisis laws to crack down an online posts, social media posts The head of the PSNI, which is our police force over here, used to be called the RUC, the Royallster C Costabulary. now it's the PSNI Um He has came out and basically said, so anybody, any of these social media pundits who are spreading this they're going after they're going to prosecute. And I know a couple of individuals across from England. they have their own YouTube channels and they were video and they were kind of what do you call them like citizen reporters, you know, doing their stuff I know at least one of them who has a major YouTube channel has been arrested Um Arested for right. What exactly are they arrested for W to this is all this is all to do in effect with hate speech, hate crye terminology because if you're seeing as inciting Right? So by sharing something are you inciting it Are you inciting people to vallets, right So this is the crackdown that we're seeing. and Funny enough, there' so what we saw on on The first night major, that was when you saw the bus and stuff set fire, right? That That's a seven hundred fifty thousand pound glider bus, which by the way, I've been told by a bus driver. was never meant to be on that route. They knew protests were happening. so why was it on that route? But anyway, that's beside the point It was set on fire Night too, again, major troubles. then the police service come out and they say, lookook, we're going after anybody who's sharing stuff online. We had the first So the YouTube pundit arrested And then. ninightth three was much less. Now there was still trouble last night there was There was a house burnt out last night. But I think in total, we've had about two dozen houses um, these houses that were supposed to be like HMOs or immigrant housing, which again is ab barreant and shouldn't happen But the problem, like I said, is what's happening is if And I think that what Liz Kendall is sort of suggesting here is just going to add fuel to the fire because if you continually it's gaslighting. if you continually tell people there's nothing to worry about, no problem, be quiet, don't speak, don't voice your opinions.t you know you're not welcome. your opinion is not welcome. You just sit there and you take this You take your area being terraformed and changed in front of you. get you take the houses beside you being now used to house asylum seekers who are unvetted and unchecked. and you know, like for instance, this individual who came across on Monday was apparently a policeman back back in Sudan Now if you look at Sadan, Sudadan's ran by the Muslim Brotherhood And to be a policeman in Sudan in the Sudanese police force kind of have to be in without. So At least to me, that would be ringing alarm bells. and I'm not saying, you know, that I'm completely right on my assessment of that, but I'm saying that we know that he was apparently in the police force there. so you would say that he had the backing of that and certainly from the actions and the things that he shouted It appears that he is in line with certainly the Muslim Brotherhood idedology So in that sense, would there not have been a flag, Would there not have been something to suggest Now the same thing is there's already in my opinion, a crackdown on some of the things that we've seen because There were there were u This individual who done the attack Well had it as far as I know I I don't know if you'ome a house mate or whatever, something like that. a flat maid or apartment, you know, buddy or whatever, you know, they had this guy Um And there were two videos going out. So there's the video of Um this heinous thing on Monday, but there was the video of the other fellow walking up and down streets, hitting cars and claiming he was going to kill people I'm yet There's nothing being put out about that. It's just being called a lone incidence, you know, and stuff like that. that to me It feels like gaslighting. It feels like suppressing the legitimate concerns of a population to and just brandishing everybody with the racist card and brandishing everybody with the right wing card And even today you see this, if you're considered conservative, you're not conservative, you're right you're right wing if you don't believe that Um alien ideologies to your area should be superimosed upon the area Like, you know, then you're automatically classed as right wing. And they'll call hate speech. Yeah, they'll call it hit spech because you've seen the British government have defined They've changed the definition. It's not Islamophobia, it's anti Muslim hatred or anti Muslim rhetoric, right? So If youantic In terms of this, this is effectively, no matter what way you cut it, this is effectively a blasphemy law for a religion that is not native to the land And it is certainly not in how this the United Kingd was formed. the United Kingdom basically on the back of the Magnna Carta and the Magna Carta has a whole load of Christian influence into that. And what you've got On top of that You've got A foreign ideology taking and supplanting the ideology in which the area is founded on. And we're supposed to be okay with that. We're supposed to be passive to that. and we're not supposed to feel like we're being marginalized as a people a population And then it is already it's no longer a conspiracy theory to talk about two tier policing and two tier judicial system. In the Henry Novak case We know that that was police policy, that there was a racial training in the police training in which this is a heightened issue, you know, so if you come to a crime and there's a race card or a race element that's been played, that's the issue they've got to focus on. So this individual, this young man lay handcuffed and died. And the thing is I think it goes back to those in power because what they're trying to do is then say, well, because you're saying this and because you're saying that, you are right wing and your're racist because you You're talking about another race. No, no, no, no I love old people. I do not care what background you come from. But when you start to treat people differently societally and structurally, not based on equality but based on equity Right? Because there's this balancing of the skills that the Red Green Alliance tries to put in. Okay, there was slavery in this part of the world or there was there was u you know, harsh laws in this part of the world Maybe one hundred, four hundred, five hundred years ago. So therefore we've got to balance the scales and we have got to make it so that this group in now is going to suffer. But that just exacerbates hatred. That exacerbates frustration, that exacerbates the whole situation and brings it into a tumultuous bubble And I think what's happening right now, the governments are trying to put a lid on things. They're trying to say, suppress them on the internet, suppress what they have to say on the streets, suppress them wherever they go. Don't let them express themselves. Don't let them object to what's happening to their own areas and therefore They The pot is bubbling over and that's what we're seeing. And I think we're going to continually see We're going to continually see tensions. I think that what will happen is and what is happening is that they are trying to The government are trying to suppress And they're suppressing with threats and things like that. But I think that what this is going to do is to continually push people into a corner in which There's only one way that they will react and it's never going to be a good way. And the best way that anybody can deal with this if you're in power is to bring people to the table and say, right, okay There is a problem with it are immigration issues There's a problem with Northern Ireland Northern Ireland has kind of become the back door to the United Kingdom in terms of immigration and we have seen in twenty twenty two something like a two hundred odd percent rise in sexual trafficking that we know about through Belfast And that sense. let's deal with this issue Let's not green light everybody come to the country. Let's do checks at the borders. Let's You know, I got to know I sense. Yeah. Look,e. I mean, this whole thing is so frustrating because Like here in America almost every time inevitably When some type of terroristic attack happens, a school shooting, a mass shooting, a the Charlie Kirk assassination, whatever the case would be, the attempts on Donald Trump et cetera, et ceter. It's always after the fact and I always say I've said this so many times on our podcast Watch and see Garantee it's going to happen. J just wait And sure enough, it's always after the fact that we find out that, well, lo and behold, there was a manifesto that was out online. It was circulating online. The feds knew about it. All the three letter agencies knew about it. They kept an eye on this individual, but they didn't have enough quote unquote evidence to do anything Really? Like, I mean, come on man. there's got to be a point where There is the conspiratorial side to this. You know, they always want to say, well, there you go with these ten foil hat theories. But I'm sorry, but, you know, we It makes you wonder why They're turning a blind eye to situations incident. and we know that there and you know and I know this both that across the globe There is Individuals, elites, shadow figures, whatever you want to call them that are pulling strings. They got lots of money, lots of influence, lots of power And they are trying to conduct things in order to bring mass chaos and disruption, so ultimately they can bring the solution Um, and that's what we're and I think we're seeing that across the globe U, and it's it's very sad. I'm just going to speak from humanitarian side to this, It's very sad to see the very freedoms You know, here in America, I know, you know, you have the same sentiment here is that our brrothers and sisters, family members, all those who shed their blood for the freedoms that we have Look at the country with I mean, think about it, man. I know that I've got family members that served in the military. They're long and gone. they've gone on to be with the Lord or whatever the case may be. If they sa if they were alive today and saw what it's become of our nation and your nation and they they would be sick to death about What has become? And it's just it's a very sad testament Now, I'm going to get back to the first question I asked because I knowew it was a long too far question Um Knowing this as believers What how do we navigate through this? what you know, how should we navigate through this And and what in your opinion, What do you think the next level is going to be? because we you and I both know this is not going to be extinguished anytime soon as far as the the internal boiling point aspect of this is not going to take much to push people over the heads like you said, they're already backed in a corner like a wild animal. You put a wild animal in a corner, it's not going to be good for you. So again, as believers What What's your thoughts on navigating through this and what do you see coming next that we continue prepare for Ephesians four, fourteen and fifteen tells us to preach F in love at all times. And I think that's really important because I think for us even for like I'm thinking for me, it's easy to react emotionally but We're told Ephesians four twenty six to be angry and do not sin And I think it's There's such a thing as righteous anger, but the righteous anger stops when it becomes a sinful action. It becomes no longer an anger from God when you start to see injustice and things like that. that If it crosses over into retribution or crosses over into burning houses and things like that, that becomes That's stepping into your own anger and your own emotion away from the righteous anger of God. Now when we have righteous anger, I think that there is a call upon us Right? What is it to do? W it to preay We have spiritual weapons that are mighty for the pulling down of strongholds and one of those is prayer the other one is to realize that we are still salt and light. And as we're still salt and light, that means that we have to be fearless in speaking truth So U I think it's quite easy, certainly with the social media stuff. to self sensor And it's easy to try and self censor. And I get that there has to be the Matthew ten sixteen caveat. You have to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as dogs. And you have to be as wise as serpents in other words to navigate through, maybe use the odd different word and so on to stay on the platform But at the same time, if you're If you're self censoring because we don't want to upset people or we don't want to maybe be in trouble with the authorities, then the other aspect of that is that you're not operating in entirety of love. because The love that we talk about is not Um a love that is affirming in the sense that I can affirm every lifestyle, I can affirm every ideology. That's false love. That's not love at all. My love for my fellow man is that I can tell them the truth of the gospel knowing that they could hate me because they first hated my Lord and Savior And I can take that hatred because I love them enough to be hated for what I have to share. So I think that In those terms, I think we can't be silent. We must be praying We must be salt and light. and that means that I know that theres there's gatherings this weekend of Christians and for the same purpose prrotesting over the mass immigration, but protesting over in terms of praying for the nation to turn back to God, praying for the nation to be awakened to the truth of the gospel Now I think that's needed, but also at the same time, I understand that the whole of society and culture is still going to hell in a handbket because there is one route in terms of the eschatological dispensation of unfolding of time, right? We are in the latdicean age, we're in the end the church age and we know that the world is heading in one direction So in that setting, I still think we still have to resist. we still have to restrain, we still have to operate in that way But at the same time, we understand that this is not a cultural war that will win Right Now this is a nuanced answer because I've asked this question by email recently We are not after culture we're after the individuals in the terms of we want to see souls saved and into the kingdom So in terms of that, that means that we will counter to the culture. Now does I hope that some aspects of what we preach and teach permeates the culture and it maybe will do in pocket form but it will not change and terraform the atmosphere like the NarR situation of reconforming everything into heaven now. context of what we're doing. you know, salt and light until we're removed, keepep praying faithfully, keep navigating uh the the The road in front of us as wise as we can. because I think in the sort of direction that everything is going I can see We've entered into the age of strife And what I mean by that? James three sixteen says that we're I. Envy and discord is, but the Greek word is erras. It is the Greek entity strife where strife is Every evil workers So you think about it in terms of the lawless one If the law, you know, if I put it this way, if I go to a hw country takes me a while to accimateize. It takes me a while to get used to the atmosphere. Um And at the same time, if the enemy is going to have his man on for his season then what he wants is an atmosphere already terraformed for his arrival So that means st, that means wars, that means lovelessness. And this is one thing that the church has to be very careful of. Matthew twenty four, verse twelve says that the love of many grows cold because lawlessness abounds. We know lawlessness abounds because that's the very atmosphere that the lawless one will enter into So of the love of Money, will grow cold. We got to make sure that we can be a Barian But we have to make sure that we don't do what Ephesus does in Revvelation two and loses its first love. We have to make sure that in this season, that what people see in us is the fruit of the spirit, love, joy, patience, kindness, for burns, long suffering You know, those types of things need to exude from the believer in the midst of this on its Look, this is coming abbsolutely everywhere And I think The way my head sort of looks at this, right? I always look for strategy Northern Ireland I see as kind of a mini test case for places, right because of our uniqueness. We're part, have we have devolved leadership partart of a kingdom, United Kingdom But we don't have the ability to set our own immigration laws or policies or anything like that Effectively, that's kind of like a template for what a superstate would look like H rightight? And we're seeing I believe that we're in the age of the rise of the superstates, right? We've seen if we take the Middle East, we see Syria as basically now an extension of Turkey because it was set up, the whole overthrow of thejab regime was by Turkey was by Eerdogan If we go to America and you've got Venezuela now I know Iran is it's causing a whole load of ps in I guess the American Are they the to Trump foreign policy, but his next Vasion has sat upon Cuba. Cuba Yp And when you see this superstate element, what you'll see is this system where there are those who have the power. But the idea of Your vote being able to decide who is in power and who makes the policies that you agree with I think that is already diminishing. and I think prophetically that is what we're seeing here within our nation is a template that I believe will be All down the line perhaps into the tribulation be the personification of what happens in terms of the laws being set time, you know You think Like you and I could probably turn around and say who is going to agree Everybody should have a mark Right Who's who's going to agree to that? You can't in your head, you can't really see it night Well perhaps we can J Thats that's going to be a case in which I think how democracy has to die. And I think those who are pulling the streight behind the scene know that And what we're seeing is the unfolding of that and what the consequences is real human life you know, that's the that's the That's the land by the wayside, that's the sacrifice that they're willing to make. A And it's not nice One Okay, we got I got one last talalking point here question. So When you talk about templates I think of China. When you think of China, you think of the I think of the B system template. If you were to think of any place You've got the dystopian surveillance, you've got the social credit scoring system Youve got the digital identification infrastructure You've got, you know, they're pushing for a digital currency. Now, we know that's coming in the UK. It's already there. It's it's happening Now I want you to look in the camera and talk to us as Americans, and what would you warn them If you if if you could stand on the mountaintop and warn America of what's coming that's leading us into the be system as far as, you know, everything we're talking about, how far are we out? until we see this like in your opinion, obviously and you know, into in to full fruition Um because we know that all of these there all these uh politicians and these political leaders regardless of where they're at on what side of the pond, they're all pushing this uniformally through the same organizations and the same, I call it the ones pulling the strings You know, are we talking about months out, a year out couple years And you know, I know this is all just conjecture here, but ye what's your thoughts on this Well, I think if you look at the Chinese social credit system as a template. I told on in twenty nineteen Knowing that it didn't become mandatory until march twenty twenty significant det, right?. When you look at that and you look at the responses, I remember teaching this in twenty nineteen that the world leaders were not negative about what was happening in China. instead, they were quite positive And it kind of sum the praises of all of this type of technology And then you talk about the Digital IDs, digital identification, digital verification, central bank, digital currency, stablecoins, all of that. And people go to themselves well, look Okay, sure it's just technology And what I am Wary of is that people don't realize that we're the frog in the boiling pot And we're seeing the boil and pot temperature. You know, the temperature just rise, the dial being turned up If you look at what has happened with the Chinese social credit system. and with the digital verification and digital identification system already set within China We can take that as a template for what's coming And right now, China has issued an legislation to forbid under eight teens from going to church Yeah, I want to say that ye Yes, but the thing is is they say that it's dangerous, it's not healthy for children to go to church so you'd prefer them dressing up like cats. you'd prefer them jumping into bed and having sexual relations with when they're underage, when they're teenagers, whatever This is the mindset ig digitally verify your age. Oh, can you get into the church? That's where it's going. And I think because theyre the writs on the wall Look at how fast we have went in the twenty twenties already We're twenty twenty six, but I don't know about you But I feel the last six years has felt like fifteen years. It's felt like there's that feels like it's been so much and thereerss the consistent chaos that has sown And off the back of chaos, they use it for gain for gain of power, for gain of control and for the extension and expansion of technology. ike I said Straight off the back of the protest. the protest started on Tuesday. straight off the back of the protest. what did we have Liz Candall turning around and saying, Well we need to bring in crisis censorship laws. All of this is going at a rate of knots The thing is is that if you take the Chinese social credit system as a template You can see where it's going. It's going against Christianity. Yeah the just Use of Islam in the West is to deconstruct Christianity, It is to deconstruct the Christian hold of the West the move of socialism, again, it's the open door for every other ideology to take up the territory. And this it shows you that it's a spiritual war Because when we look at Paul's example of spiritual work, what does he tell us to do? Right? We're told to put on the regalia, the helpm of salvation, the breastplate of righteousness, the belt of truth, the shield of faith, the sandals of peace and then start In other words, do not give up to territory. because it is a territorial war. So what the enemy looks to do is to bring in and invade the territory, take over the territory with different ideologies. This is why we've seen things like paganism grow thirty seven and a fiveal thousand percent in the United States since the nineteen nineties. Now that's not thirty seven thirty seven and a half thousand people, That's thirty seven and a fivealf thousand percent E Try I wasn't say even the the just to show you that Christianity is being targeted Even the new Spielberg Disclosure Day movie that by the way, will be hitting the theaters today Notice when Spielberg was in the interview When they interviewed him, he warned Christians their faith could be questioned or it could be it could be you know, they would have to revise their theology. Why didn't he warn Muslims or Buddhists or you know, any of those. Why was it just Christianity? Hm makes you wonder, don't It really does because I think this is the point is that you start to see that there is a spiritual climate slowly sl when I say slowly, much faster than we probably expected, but slowly to the perception of people changing to be anti Christian.. Automatically you have in the last few years things like Christian fundamentalism seen as a bad thing. Well, I am a fundamental a Christian because fundamentalist Christian becausecause I believe in all the fundamentals of the Bible. I believe in what the word says. So that makes me a fundamentalist That is seen as a bad thing. is and we've seen legislation in certain areas. Canada here against the expression of Christianity. we have seen Like you brought up a minute ago, hates h hate speech laws in here, Canada, Australia, Scotland, all of these things And what is it designed against? It's designed against Christianity. We go back. Maybe eighteen months, twenty months, something like that a labour councllor had proposed a law in England over a certain council to try and ban The laying on of hands and the preaching in the streets. That is not against Islam, nor is that against Hinduism, nor is that against That's against Christianity because we're the only ones who even use the terminology of laying out of hands This is where it shows you Christianity is under assault Ny How to create your response for this is back to what I said We need to be exuding the fruit of the sperm because here's the thing, look at how the early church did it. We don't need to be responding with violence and things like that. And that kind of falls into a cultural misnomer where people think that that's our response You look at how the early church and grew under persecution. They exuded the fruit of the Holy Spirit You know, when Paul wrote Philippians, he was in prison And it's the most joyful book and certainly the most joyful epistle. Paul and he's in prison And when you look at first Timothy and second Timothy, that's under the nearow persecution. Second that' lony, it's the same. And when you start to look at that and you think, hold on a minute. These guys are writing about sacrifice, love, patience, kindness, and the point of being led by the Holy Spirit That's how the Christian witnesses in this time. or in the other. Look in the Old Testament You had King Darius Wh was manipulated by some politicians to pass a decree that would bring Uh, consequences against anyone who would pray to another God besides the one of King Darius. So the word got back to Daniel How did he respond, brother? Well we know how he responded. He began to pray three times a day and I love this about Daniel. He opened his window to pray. So he didn't hide in a corner. you know, he didn't he didn't act in he didn't respond in violence protest or anything. He said, you know, they told me not to pray to my God He didn't cower down. He said,m notot only am I going to pray to my God, I'm going to pray not once, not twice, but three times with the window open. So I love that about That example of Daniel I love that. That's Daniel six and it's a because it mirrors Ax two. What is Daniel doing? There's one hundred and twenty sat traps governors and officials, right who come against him and he takes himself where the upper room Same as what church enacts to. And I think that that's the template for what we do whenever society is coming against us. And that was the first point of persecution when you really see it because after the the resurrection and after the ascension and they gather, this is the point in which they realize, hold on a minute. Jesus has now left us and full but left us to actually continue the work off. what he accomplished on the cross. We have to continue spreading this out everywhere And there was this mindset. I don't know about you, but like My background was martial arts and I remember the first time I ever sort of stepped up to teach, right? And my instructor at the time who was a grandmaster in Ju Jitsu decided that the first time I would ever teach was in front of two hundred other black belts. And I was kind of going, o, are you going to be beside me? orre you going help me? And he wasn't. He just walked off Iy not? That's a state of dread and a state of fear and aeate of being thrown into that. The all' there And I think that's the picture of where we are now. The atmosphere is hostile. Ebody around you and everybody around Christianity and those looking at Christianity are not looking for Jesus. They're looking at you. Do you exude Jesus or do you reflect world or do you reflect your own response? There are things that have happened in my life where my fleshly response would not measure up with the Bible. And this is where you have to be submissive to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has to B the one that leads you and which and we all know this. like everybody knows this with social media someomebody says something, you start to type out something really reallyally long winded. Oh I'm gonna a new one. I'm gonna show and then the Holy Spirit tells you didt lte been there done now. That's the way, you know, because people look at you And I'll say it from even my own personal experience I got save six years before my wife We were getting divorced. We were getting, you know She was she told me she didn't want to be with me. She told me she didn't love me anymore and she was she had left. She was living in a different house. And for the six years that we had been married, well, five years that we'd been married, sorry at that point I had preach dter. I had throwing every scripture at her didid nothing. Whenever she saw me going through the worst moment of my life The hard part and that I was still praising God . Witnessed her It She turned to me and says, I want what you have. And I got I got the privilege of leading my wife to the Lord. that that in itself is the you know, we can preach the word. we can, you know, quote scripture, but if we're not living it It showews up quite quickly Amen Well, Bother, we're out of time if you can believe it. But again, thank you so much for taking the time to come on here. Let's do this right before we close Why don't you lead us into prayer? I want you to pray for u for your, you know, for everyone that may be watching and your I know you we're going to get a lot of people from that follow you probably from your church. You lead us in a prayer for them and then pray for us and everybody is watching. Listen, despite where we're from we all need prayer and we need the protection of the Lord and H blessing. So I'm going to kick it off over to you. And again, guys, don't forget, we'll put all how you can follow Pastor Gary right there below. or if you in the description of this video on YouTube, you'll see a link there. You can click on there if you want to go Go a like and subscribe to his YouTube channel and you'll be blessed by his all of his messagage and don't forget guys here right here on interim headlines. we we're going to rebroadcast if you if you didn't see the the table round table talk. It was myself, Pastor Gary and Pete Garcia. We did a two hour session Um he broadcasted that on his channel, but we have saved that we're we've've got that premiering on this coming Monday. So it'll be this coming Monday. What is that the fifteenth, I believe that's fifteenth. Yeah at eight PM Eastern. so if you didn't catch that Be sure to go over there and watch it. So Gary, I'm to kick it over to you Ladies in a prayer brother, and we're going sign off for tonight. Father God, I just thank you You, Lord I thank you and I come into your presence with praise and Thankksgiving, knowing and having confidence in your character and who you are. You're a good, good God. And Father, I just thank you that in the midst of any trouble that we faced, in the midst of any circumstance that we go through, that we're not wavering by the circumstance. We're not like Peter who lost his sight and looked at waves, but rather we are like the Peter who was keeping his eyes upon Jesus and able to walk above the storms of this age. Father, I just thank you for an equipping of your people. I thank you for Belfast, Lord. I thank you as all of this is happening right now, as all of this is happening in Northern Ireland, as this This is sort of continuing to spread across the whole of the United Kingdom, Lord, that at its center, Lord, let the voices of genuine concern be heard and not let violence lead the way. We don't want violence, there shouldn't be violence and there shouldn't be harm to people, but rather we should be exuding your characteristic says, you know that we are followers of you, that we pick up across and follow you, that by the beholding of you in Sripture or we are transformed and let people see that transformation. Let people see you and not us. Let people see your way and not our way. Let people see and hear your word over our expression. Lord, we can get angry about all things and we can get angry about the injustices and the wickedness and the age of evil that we're living in, or we can choose to be the remnant, the remnant who hold fast to your word, who hold fast to yourour name and are not moved by the age and the circumstance and the spurit of the age that is trying to cause so much evil in this world. Father, I just pray for Stephen Ogleve, Lord. I pray that he brought out of this coma that he is able to recover to some extent that there is healing for him. Father, I just pray that your hand is around him. I pray that the emotional A fact of what happened is is is met with your Holy Spirit is met with your presence that He is that his hospital room right now is only filled with the presence of you, Lord, that you make your presence completely known to him. I know that He has faith. I know that He has expressed belief. but Father, I just ask that you make it so tangible and so real and you make your presence so so present for him Father, we just pray for everybody who is hurting right now. and Lord, we just ask that your healing hand is upon them, that your strength is upon them. And Lord, we pray for endnd Times headlines for Ricky for this ministry that his voice may be heard across the waters across the waves, across the internet, across everywhere so that it can con invade into people's houses and people can hear truth over what is propagated by the mainstream media Lord, we know that the media is being used by the enemy very, very well and to a large degree for his agenda. But Lord, we say that in this time there will be trumpeters of truth who will speak out your word and speak out your with boldness the truth of the gospel in this time so that people may be healed and set free may be brought in to the body and may be ready for your soon return. in Jesus mighty name, we pray. Amen Amen, Lord, and I just ask that you would put a headedge of protection around Pastor Gary, his church, his family and his church members around his community, his home. You said the angel your word says in the book of Proverbs, the angel of the Lord encampeth aroundabout those who fear you and he delivers them out of all their troubles. or that's in the book of Psalm, Lord. And I thank you for that protection. Lord, we just declare Psalm ninety one over him. Lord, did you put him under the shadow of your wings And no evil shall befall him, no plague shall come near his dwelling the thousand may foall his side and ten thousand his right hand but it shouldall not come near his dwelling. We thank you for this man of God, H ministry and hisis voice. and I thank you that you're protecting and preserving it in this hour. And it's in Jesus' name. We pray. Amen and amen.. Aen. All right, brother. again, it's always an honor to have you on to the program U againgain, I'm sure we'll see each other soon. Keep us updated. let me know if anything changes, I'd love to have you back on and we can discuss that further for sure I will do. I will do All right guys, again, thank you so much for being a part of the program tonight. Again, if you've not hit that like button, please do that. Don't forget guys, we do have a free free app If you want to pick it up today, you can go to Apple, Android, whatever your device is. you can download it right there from your Pay store or you can scan that QR code. so you can keep up with every podcast like this, brereaking news, prophecy updates headlines, everything's gonna be right at your fingertips And as always guys, if this ministry blesss you encourage you, equips, you informs you All of the above and you'd like to know more about partnering with us, here's a quick video on that and we'll be right back with some closing thoughts. 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