Seeds of Deception and Biblical Interpretation

The following program is brought to you by friends and partners of inim headlines Allright friends, welcome to Int Time headadlines, News and headlines from a prophetic perspective. Of course I am your host, Ricky Skapal, the founder in the voice of Innt Time headadlines And tonight, we have a very interesting topic that we're going to talk about, and we've got a very special guest that we're going to bring in and help us Make heads and tails of this, unravel this and give the insight that we need into this. I want to talk about the Stehven Spelberg comment that is has blown up has gone all over the place. It's gone viral and he is warning that the new disisclosure day film, which will be coming out in days will quote raise theological questions among Christians and the Christian faith So How do we process this? Well today, we've got a very special guest. I want to pull him in here. We're talking about and he's no stranger to entim time headlines, we're talking about Josh Pck. So Josh, thank you for taking the time out today, my friend to come on here and help me helpp us unravel this and have a good candid discussion about this statement is Steven Spielberg. that made recently that kind of offended a lot of people in the Christian community. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having me on. alwaysways goodood talking with you. I love doing your show and I'm even though this was a little last minute, I'm glad that we were both able to make this happen. I'm looking forward to talking about this because yeah, it did go viral. Yeah. Real quick, Josh, let everybody know where they can find you, keep up with you and learn more about your product, your ministry and the information that you provide Yeah, absolutely. My main website is dailyrenegade dot com. That's where I put up full versions of all of our videos that we do. I don't put everything up on YouTube, but on YouTube, YouTube d. com slash at daily Rnegade. That's my YouTube channel. I would love if people would go subscribe, click on the bell. And we also did open the members. people rather not have to go to a separate website like Daily Rennegade and just want to do everything on YouTube. They can become a member and help support us there. And then there's also joshpeck. sububstack. com, which is articles, audio only podcasts and videos. And then finally renegadepublishers. com, which I just recently started. You can stream DVDs on there and we also for any potential authors out there. we have submission guidelines if you would like to be published through us. And can I can pretty much guarantee I can offer a better deal than anybody else out there in terms of royalties and things like that. So those are my four main websites right now where people can go to find out more. Well, there you go guys. If you're wanting to get a book published And u Make sure you contact Josh. if it falls in the genre of what he's publishing, then there you go. Make sure you connect with him So Josh, this is the Um, this is the this is the article. This is the headline I'm going to read a little bit about this. Director Steven Spelberg suggested during a Sunday interview. Now we got a little bit of a video of this. and his new film about extraterrestrials might quote raise theological questions among some Christians I like how I said some Christians Regarding the nature of the cosmos Speaking with Turner Classic movies host On CBS News Sunday morning, Spielberg said Disclosure Day, his upcoming movie about a meteorologist and a cybersecurity expert exposing the government's cover up of extraterrestrial secrets will quote touch on the implications such a revelation would have for religious people. Um, we I've got a little video here A little bit of a clip We're going to pull this up. And we'll watch this together And again, if you have anything you want to add to this or whatnot, we'll pause this. Anytime Josh just let me know, we'll pause it and you can give some insight or whatnot. Commentary. Sure. Think about this when the great unknown is actually known by some but not known by all of us It's that inequity that got me to write the story for a Disclosure dayay. I sense a different degree of passion about this. Like you're very pleased with how this came out. Yeah I am. I am. I mean, the movie for me is a summation of my life in science fiction whichich is started when I was seventeen years old Disclosure Day is part Chase Flick. W. Part seventies thriller, and part B tech conspiracy, all colliding to make it a sci fi story for a cynical modern audience. You're credited story by Steven Spielberg screenplay by David Kepp So this story is yours. You wrote it and where'd you write it? I just wrote it the summer of twenty twenty three. I just sat down, spent two months writing. I wrote a fifty, sixty page single space story. but literally where did you write like on what ner did you write this On my iPad, right? in the little notes section of your iPad. Well, know, everybody has it, right? We have a note section. Yeah. That's where I wrote it. And then I printed it out and would read it and thend go back to my iPad again. It's prettyty great. Thank you, Steve Jobs The cast is led by Emily Blunt. Good morning, Kansas City. Let's take a look today. Pling a meteorologist who inherits sudden gifts that she does not understand. I think it's a two handander, but I also think it's an ensemble movie. That's an interesting term they used right there Yeah, inherit certain gifts like immediately that made my brain launch to Revelation in the markark of the Beast, which I think with that will be hey, you'll get you'll get these gifts. you'll get it's like a a perverted eternal life gift kind of thing, you know, like you won't get disease, you won't die. you know, it kind of makes me think of like Elon Musk's humanism Eink Yeah, yeah, all of that stuff. But immediately that made me think of the markark of the Beast and how these things are going to be promised to people and how likely the whole alien deception agenda has something to do with all of those deceptions throughout Revelation and the tribulation Wow, that's yeah. I think it's very balanced between Cm Domingo's character, Colin Firth and Josh and Emily and Eve Houwson, and then Wyatt Russell's terrific and really funny. Yeah. I laughed a lot. Like this is funny. Yeah. Well, you know, life is funny sometimes and especially when pt yourself into a corner, you need laughs because of the tension. You got to give the audience a chance to you know to not stress themselves into a nervous breakdown while they're watching any film. Spielberg calls Disclosure Day a bookend to his nineteen seventy seven blockbuster, Close enncounters of the Third kindind. But the universal curiosity he expresses in both movies dates all the way back to a starry night roughly seventy years ago. I was about five or six years old. I was living in New Jersey. and when your father comes into the bedroom and wakes you up from a sound st sleep and puts you in a car. And I kept saying, Dad, what is it? What is it? He said It's a surprise And he stopped at a big park and it was the Perseus Meteor shower. And that was the beginning of my love affair with the sky. I remember how shocked I was, but I also remember seeing these points of light darting across the sky, you know. And I just remember thinking that was one of the most extraordinary things I had ever seen He's been exploring the extraordinary ever since. Do you think that there are aliens here? H we. Do you think they might still be here? Based on the circumstantial evidence of everything that I've gathered throughout my whole life in all the testimonies in Congress that I've heard, I absolutely think that they have been here and they are here. And who knows, mayaybe they've always been here. Have you ever had any sort of Paranormal event in your life, nothing. Isn't that terrible? Yeah. deser I deserve I deserve a sighting. I need a sighting. I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm an ambassador of these guys and they haven't shown themselves to me. I don't get that Yeah got to be careful what you wish for there, bud. Yeah. No kidding. I was going to say what he needs is an encounter with Jesus. He needs prayer. Come on, exactly. So all right. then you know, back to this wasn't the same interview. I was hoping that he was going to get into this Um But he talks about again, and let me give you a quote here, quote, There's a faction in the film that represents a pretty good position of why possibly because of onatological shock, social dislocation. if this truth were just known overnight. If the government announced, yes, we have been keeping this from you since nineteen forty seven, that would mess up a lot of people And And then he goes on to say, what does this what does this do to the fundamental beliefs that many of us have Is God our God only on this planet or is God a God for every system where there civilization, intelligent life and even developing life. So these are the questions Josh that are coming up. So let's to dive right into this. We'll get right into the substance of this. In this film, the world is forced to again, grapple, this is kind of the backdrop of this Mvie The world is trying to process a massive global reveal. It kind of sounds like what's happening now, right? From a biblical perspective, the question isn't whether these phenomena exist actually are So in Dclosure Day, the global data dumps per se forces humanity to accept that these things have been interacting with us for a very longong time or since the dawn of time. Now when we look at Se Thestaalans chapter two again, we've talked about this, you and I have talked about this. It talks about a strong delusion that will be sent to humanity who accept not the truth. They believe the lie, whatever the lie is Do you in your opinion, do you think that a modern alien disclosure event like this could be the ultimate fulfill fulfillment of this warning from the apostle Paul, could aliens be the perfect backdrop or mask for fallen spiritual entities Yes. out of everything that I've heard all of the theories and what the strong delusion could be, the whole alien deception thing, I think that that has the highest probability of being the strong delusion because you need for one thing, it says the lie. So there's a single lie.. So this lie, whatever it is, would have to be It would have to transcend cultures, people groups, different religions, different ways of thinking. It would have to transcend that. It would have to be above all of that. It kind of reminds me of that quote from Ronald Reagan where he's basically saying, you know What's it going to take for all of us nations to get along? Do we need to all come together against an alien threat, you know? I'm paraphrasing, but that's basically the idea. So I think the strong delusion would have to be something that transcends humanity itself, transcends our life on this planet, and this whole lie that there's other biological entities from other planets that are traveling here and wanting to interact with us I think that would be the perfect strong delusion. And plus all of the You know, we call it predictive programming, but all of the TV shows, movies, just every everything entertainment relating to sci fi has been pushing this narrative for decades at this point. In fact, What the very first Sci fi movie ever made was like in the nineteen twenties or something like that. and it was it was about going to the moon and finding creatures there. So this idea it's called a cosmic plurality. It's just basically the idea that there's inhabited Uh There's there's life elsewhere in the unise except here on Earth. But this has permeated humanity really for a long, long time. and it seems like Whenever it seems like that it's coming up more now though than ever before. And like how you mentioned, this movie is coming out right around the same time that the government is disclosing all of this stuff. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think this was all this has been all plan Now for what purpose, I don't know, but we as Christians, especially we as teachers, we have got to be ready for anything that they say. and I think, you know Stehven Spielberg's comments with this film give us kind of a glimpse of we can expect if and when actual full disclosure instead of this drip that we've been getting, but full disclosure actually happens. And you know we as Christians need to be ready for that. But that's why we're doing programs like this Exactly. And I know you saw this. All of these whistle bllowers is storm Capitol Hill this was all over their video this and I thought about playing a video of this but you can find this it's everywhere and you got all these meembers of Congress, you've got whistleblowers, former military, all of these individuals are now coming together and they're asking you know, they're asking for protection of amenity, you know, animated or what is it called? helpp me out here. Anonymity. Yes, than you. I get my tongue gets tied up with that. And that happens with me too. ye. Basically translation They don't want to come up missing for sharing the information. So this is why, you know, they're strength in numbers and they're coming out doing all this. So there's an extreme amount of hype around this One of the conversations just kind of dovetails off of this question I had I had this conversation among even some very close friends of mine And one of these individuals talked about how that none of this faces them. They don't, you know, they They don't perceive they don't even so much say that, well, it's probably aliens or demons or fallen angels They said that because of the size of the cosmos, the galaxies, the solar systems, you know, all this stuff, that they could see how there could be other life forms out there. there could actually be extratererrestrials and it doesn't shake their faith U I want to know your perspective on that. Do you think it's dangerous to toy with that Or do we have to be as Christians, do we have to be black and white and can't leave this gray area in here? No pun intended Yeah Yeah, I think I think I think with it depends on how it's done. So, you know, just as kind of an intellectual exercise. L, so my position, I don't believe that there's any life out there besides us, angels, demons, you know, God Satan's whatever here. I don't I personally don't believe there now maybe microbial life, maybe plant life. I don't even know if in biblical terms that would be considered life exactly. We call it life, but I don't know if it would There might be something like that, but that doesn't really, if that exists, that's inconsequential. That has nothing to do with the big question on everybody's mind that if there if there are aliens out there somewhere. how do they get saved? You know, didid Jesus die on all those plant? You know, of course of course not no no I don't think any serious person would say that. So then then you have a couple of choices. And this is where to me it's like, well, the say for me the safest position is There are no aliens, There are no extraterrestrials And even if they are, justust from a scientific and physics perspective We would never know. like we would never be able to meet. we would never be able to communicate. It's just the distances are too vast and outer space is too chaotic U Now if a like just the speed factor alone, you can't you can't really get any you can't really get anywhere. But then that's where people always say, well, what about wormholes with Well, with imaginary technology, you can do anything. but when you really look into the when you really look into the physics, u of what it would take to actually make a traversible wormhole. So this isn't a black hole. like nature does black holes out in the universe and they're destructive and you know, they they're really weird too. There's a lot of cool stuff about black holes. But a wormhole is different. A wormhole is literally punct puncturing a ho through three dimensional reality through what's called the fourth spatial dimension, folding space and then making that distance shorter. As far as we know, the most Powerful things in the universe do not do this. So collapsing stars don't create traversible wormholes. They create black holes that are you can't use those for travel. I mean, you'd get destroyed before hand. Actually, you would reach the end of time. That's a trippy thing, but you would reach the end of time before you even got to the center of the black hole. It's weird. it bends time. But but anyway So for one thing, you wouldd have to have near Godd like technology to even get close to doing something like that. But even if you could, even if you could, the energy signature would be so great. there would be no way that we would miss that Because you would need an immense amount of energy to literally fold space into a higher dimension. There's also a lot of problems with that. A lot of times peopleeople use the illustration, you take a sheet of paper, poke you fold it in half, poke a pencil through and that's a wormhole Um Well, that's actually not too far off. So if you think about what it would mean to fold three dimensional space, you are actually folding space And space contains certain bodies, moons, stars, planets Those would move too. it would have to just like if you had two dimensional space and you bent it and moved it into the third dimension stuff would move there too. You could have stuff crashing into each other. So not not only the mathematics to just even figure out how to do that without annihilating solar systems and other planets and things like that be would be astronomical, but then to actually be able to do it. and to do it without any kind of detectable energy signature All of that just sounds so but that's what you have to believe in if you want to believe that extraterrestrials are on other planets and they're visiting us. Now, maybe God created life on other planets and it has nothing to do with us. We'll never know about each other, We'll never communicate, and we'll find out how all that works when we get to heaven and we can ask Himself But I think the safest bet is to say I'm not I'm not going to believe it till I see it. I would have to know how these things are getting here. They're going to have to explain the physics because because I need to know if that actually makes sense, you know, I I'm not and also Imagine if extraterrestrials were visiting Earth, that would be so big and earth shattering Why doesn't the Bible whyy doesn't the Bible ever warn us that that would happen? Why doesn't the Bible clearly tell us, Hey, just so you know, I did create life on other planets. So if they ever come around, don't freak out. I'll deal with them and their salvation and you know, just Yeah, and I know some people will say that's an argument from silence, but if you're God and you want to warn your creation, your people about things that might might happen That's a big one to leave out. Like I don't I think at that point, it's not really an argument from silence. It's it's just common sense. If something like that was going to happen It seems like there should be something in there in the bible Ands there's just not, but it has a lot to say about excuse me about fallen angels, demons and their deceptions. So to me, that's the best candidate for this phenomenon. And we'll get into that, but that's the argument That's exactly what I said was like if this were true, thenen the Bible would not be as silent as it is on these matters U That's a good point. Second of all, So this boils down to Interstellar versus interdimensional. Now from the Hollywood aspect, it's interstellar. These are interstellar travelers They're coming in and Josh did an excellent job on breaking that down But if we go with an interdimensional aspect of this, this pulls into the Ephesians Chapter six aspect principalities powers, relversus darkness these ranks of Demmon experience. but Josh, I'm going to throw out another angle. Um And a lot and I don't hear a lot of people talk about this. A lot of podcasters and those who talk about ephology and in this category right here 'cause it always comes down to the fallen angels, the Nepphhalims and the giants, which we should discuss that. Here's something I thought about the other day when I was doing my own devotion and stuff Think about when Elijah the prophet was taken up into a chariot of fire. Now you got to think about that. When he was taken up in a chairry of fire, if you were an onlooker looking up and saw this, going up into heaven, how would you describe this? Because you think about this in order for if if if you believe the Bible and Elijah was raptured caught up That's what that was. He was hardpzoed out in a char of fire and he was taken to heaven, the third heaven. That's mentioned Corinthians chapter twelve. He was taken up into into well, paradise wasn't created yet at that time But he was taken up before the throne room of God. We know that. Elijah, you know he's been up there for thousands of years. I believe he's coming back as one of the two witnesses in Revelation eleven. But if he's being taken up in a chariot of fire, that chariot of fire You think about this, Josh, he has to survive that entire travel from Eth. through the, you know, for the first heaven, through the second heaven, all the way into the heaven of heavens. So he was supernaturally preserved. But again, think about this, I think about this What would that look like to onlooker? Second of all, in the in the the account of Josephus' historian During the destruction of the temple in seventy AD, in his account, he said that there was seen above the temple Chariots of fire that were in the skies. Again, what would that look like? So the bottom line is guys, what I'm saying is and Josh, I'm to throw this back at to you, is it possible? Now we know that over ninety percent of all these objects O military That leaves a ten percentile. Is it instead of you know, and I don't doubt that a lot of this is principalities Powers dememonic, but what you got to ask yourself, what percentage of this could be angelic M And it's gog Yeah, absolutely, especially the ones that break the laws of physics where they've been filmed as like coming together, breaking apart, you know, doing all these weird things. The crazy thing about that is if it's truly extr dimensional, meaning we're seeing something that has more than three dimensions of space to it that we can't perceive it would have qualities like that. And that's something that you got to you got to really dig into quantum physics to be able to to get that stuff to know that. likeike how and it's hard because our brains don't think that way. You know, we think in three dimensions. It's really hard to consider how a fourth dimension would interact with ours. But when you really dig into it, and I wrote a book about this called Quantum Creation, it was my first major release s still relevant to probably more relevant now than it was when I wrote it, but If the way to do it is you think about what Our interaction would be like in a two dimensional universe because we can't think of a four dimensional universe, but we can imagine a two dimensional universe. It's just flat, there's no up or down Um, and So imagine if and you know ph physicists have referred to this. it's based on an old short story. It's Fatland basically. but Chuck Missler's talked about this, but if I put one finger into their world, Fatland from above They don't see the finger coming. they don't see the finger till it breaches their two dimensional space. Well, what would that look like? It would look like a point as my fingertip first starts to And then it would grow into a ring, it would change sizes Well, all you have to do and if I put two fingers in there, I could move them around but to flatlanders to the beings of this flatland universe, they would see two separate segments moving independently. If I put all five of my fingers in there and then kept going, all five of these separate segments, you know, my fingers would converge into my wrist, but to them, it would look like five separate objects converging into one object. That is exactly what we see in a lot of these unexplainable UFO videos and stuff, except you just add one dimension It's a four it's at least a four dimensional object, maybe more, breaching our three dimensional space and behaving exactly. as was predicted by quantum physicists and even short story writers in the nineteenth century. They would kind of grapple with these ideas too. And that's exactly what we're seeing. And the amazing thing about that is a being would not need technology in order to do that. If a two dimensional universe exists, I can breach it by putting my finger in there. No technology needed So and I do believe that there is a such thing as angelic technology, but you wouldn't have to literally break the laws of physics as you would have to if it was extraterrestrials from another planet. So it's a much cleaner, much simpler Uh, uh, um definition or explanation of this phenomenon. Yeah, that people are seeing and it goes along with the evidence. These things are fallen angels. They have their own technology. I believe that they purposely crash UFO crafts to give us technology because they gave us technology in the book of Enoch way back in the days of Noah and that was to mankind's detriment. They're doing the same thing again. so we can develop this stuff. use it against us whenever they get here. Yeah. Yeah exactly. So I think the extra dimensional hypothesis, I think is the best one that really explains what's going on here. And to give an explanation point to this. is it's also it's there's a spiritual world and this is what's talking about that we can't see with our physical eyes. It reminds me of Balam and his donkey. Remember Yeah donkeys saw things that Balaam didn't and this was one of the supernatural events in the Bible The donkey snaps back at Balam and says, Don't you see these angels b the donkey saw the angels, but Balam couldn't. And we could really take a sideet on there and we could talk about how animals are more sensitive to the supernatural and they can see it to the spirit world. M, we could take we could do a whole other podcast on that. But I mean, that's that's a part of this. And I believe all the paranormal activity of people seeing these quote unquote apparitions and stuff, it's spirits. It's the familiar spirits, the Mic spirits, spirits and whatnot U Josh, you already since you started taking your, you've kind of side stepped us into this going into this, let's go ahead and go here So the book of Enoch details a timeline where these we'll just call them spiritual beings. cross these physical boundaries and they they enter into our world or our dimension. They these watchers, these fallen angels, they descend to earth And you can find this in antiquity, you know, the book of Enoch talks about this in detail They literally altered human history through U Cross breeding, if you would, going into the daughters of manen, producing the Nephelim, the giants So here's the question is Hel U Now that's historical account So how does this how is this relevant today? If you know, we did it if this was stuff we read about in history, but we're talking about, you know, thousands of years later. How is this relevant today Good question because Jesus tells us to look to look at the days of Noah, see what things were like there. And that's our clue of what to look for when he's about to return when we're in the end times. And all of that happened in the days of Noah. The only difference is they weren't pretending to be aliens because in the ancient world they weren't thinking of aliens on other planets and stuff like that. So the only difference and why that's so important is because Aductee's talk about this alien hybridization program. It's been a big deal of Abductee's accounts for decades that they're doing something with genetics, that they're combining their genetics and our genetics to try to make these new creatures And u some kids that might be like the bllack eyed kids or whatever, but But it's the same exact thing that happened in Genesis six. The fallen angels did the same thing. The only difference is now they're claiming to be aliens from other planets. And you can tell they're liars because all you have to do is backtrack their claims When this first started, they would say that they were from Venus or Mars. But then oops, our technology, you know got to the point where we could actually study those places and view them. and especially Venus, there is nothing coming from Venus. Like you can't even I don't even think metal can solidify on Venus for very long. Like you can't make you can't make a craft an environment like that. So what do they do? Well then they started saying that they were from further out, you know, Zeta R reticuli and the plleiades and all that stuff Um, and but now, but then we we kind of got a little smarter too and we're thinking, he, the vast ces and how impossible it would be. So now We're starting to hear more of this interdimensional, extra dimensional thing. And I even wrote about that, I think I wrote about this and it was either quantum creation or terubbee chariots. This was before extra dimensions. this was way before that anything extra dimensional was even in the conversation in regards to aliens. B backack then it was it's just all extraterrestrial but I I followed that path how, okay from they were from Mars, okay, now they're from Zeda Reticula. And then I hypothesized and said, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they if they start telling people because then we really can't we really can't vet them U if they're from extra dimensions, if they're from higher dimensions And all of a sudden, now that we're getting this more of this disclosure stuff the interdimensional extra dimensional hypothesis is like on the table. It's like seriously being considered by even members of Congress and stuff like that. So really all they're doing, all these beings are doing is just putting it further out to places that we can't vet them. We can't we can't check an extra dimension and make sure they're really from there. I believe that they are, but I believe that they're lying about what that means, you know, That means that they're fallen angels, they rebelled against God but they're They're not admitting that part of it. They they say that they're here to initiate us into a cosmic brotherhood. That's where it starts getting really new agey in the alien theology, the things that they're teaching abductees. But yeah, I mean, it all fits together perfectly in this Genesis six paradigm. And I believe that Jesus told us to look specifically at that time because it's going to define for us What's happening right now. It's the same exact thing, just different packaging So I'm going to ask a question. I wonder if anybody's ever asked you this before. Here we go, You ready for it Yeah, Ready If Satan is trying to infiltrate the earth with these demonic spirits, taking upon themselves forms which we rec call. Now, if we go with the narrative of the U. S. military And the whistleblowers, there's four types of aliens. There's the insectoids, Uh, which is what's that's the mantis Then you've got the the grays, which is the typical ones. You've got the the helpp me out here. what's the other one? The big tall one the the Nor the Yeah, there's like a human looking one, the Nordics. The Nordics and then I'm uh A Repptilian one, right? There you go, the reptilian one. So here's the question. if why doesn't why doesn't they why do these things, these entities take on human flesh or human form to look like us versus these heinous hideous looking creatures. Have you ever somebody ever asked you that question before? Why? whyy do they No that's a form Or is that the actual form that we're seeing and they can't h it. they can't quote unquote disclose that becausecause we're seeing entities that are Birth out of hell, if you would, or demonic. Yeah, that's the one. I think that's it. I think because there'ss a restrainer, you know, because the Holy Spirit dwelling in believers all over the earth, I think that really restrains what they can do, how much they really can disguise themselves. There was an old ancient church father, Lactantius wrote about this account when Christians, spirit filled Christians had this encounter with Apollo because they they they went in and Apollo couldn't lie Apollo actually had to admit that he was a demon And it got to the point where he just shut up alt togetherether and never spoke again after that. This guy This was so rampant in the first couple centuries of Christianity. that that was the main reason why Christians were persecuted because they would go into a town, preach Jesus and then all of a sudden their oracles didn't work anymore You know, the evil spirits, their false gods wouldn't talk to them anymore because the restraining force. So I think that that's what it is. I think we're actually seeing when people see them, I think it's because they can't really fully disguise themselves. That's why um When they try to do memory wipes and stuff, people can recover those memories. Whereas like we have the technology. I could give somebody anesthesia and it's going to erase their memory. There's no hope that they're going to remember you know, anything they went through. Yet somehow aliens, they have to have all of these reallyally torturous medical experiments and things that they do to people that leave scoop marks, leave these scars, and leave them with a vague memory that something happed so much so that they have to go try to seek hypnosis or something, which I personally would not recommend, but some people do it it's so different. It's like if they're so advanced in technology, how is it we can do that better? Not that we're going around abducting people, but when we give somebody a surgery they don't remember that surgery. they're out. They don't even you could potentially do that in a way where they didn't even know anything happened. You know if you were able to give them an seizure while they sleep. But it's because this restraining force, why they're not able to do everything that they want to do and why they're we're actually seeing them in probably what is their true form. The Repptilian one makes perfect sense You know, the serpent in the Garden of Eden, you know, Satan, the beast and all that. I mean, that that that imagery makes perfect sense. The mantis is weird I if people are interested, because I know we're limited on time, but if people are interested, I recently did an entire video on the whole mantis imagery when it comes to these aliens and why they're appearing as mantises. And I think there's actually some ancient things there that connect with Apollon and the locusts in the in the abyss. I think I think there's a connection there. But if people want to do that, they can find that on my YouTube channel. just look up Josh Pck Mantis aliens that should come up. But but in any sense, I think that they can't fully disguise themselves as well because of the restrainer. Sometimes they can kind of get away with it, but not always and I think it's that the same reason as what happened in the ancient church why these oracles couldn't talk anymore and why the the false gods couldn't couldn't be as deceptive as they were before because the power of that restraining force of the Holy Spirit. But once that Holy Spirit's removed, once the restrainer is removed and us with him All bets are off, then literally all hell will break loose on the earth Well, now here would be this would be the rebuttal to this because I can hear it already. Somebody say, Well, hold on now. The Bible says that Satan can form as an angel of light. Now here's a con I was sitting here listen to you and I thought about this Or here's a second angle to this or this is part of the deception and they want us to look at these forms because they want they don't want us connecting the dots to their identity, but they want us chasing our tails thinking that there's extra terrestrials when they're not. That's a good theory, right? That's a good Yeah, that's a good point too. Hey, look, guys, you know, we don't have all the answers either. We're just trying to, you know, we're trying to take the Wd of God and dissect it and break it down as much as possible All right, Joshs, let's move on to this next question. Colin F, I believe that's how you pronounce his name. He's one of the actors. His character warns that disclosure will upend all established order across the entire planet Um So if if a modern disclosure happens, now again, that's speculative Some people say, you know, this is just smoke and mirrors. It's a psciop. It's not gonna happen But if it does and they bring forth biologics Do you think this will signal a return to the very hybrid reality that now when we talk about hybrid reality, we're talking about the days of Noah stuff that he just that you just talked about what Think about this What door is that gonna open? Like where is that gonna take humanity? Truly. Like have you thought about? I know. Yeah, I thought about that a lot and it's completely unpredictable. And what makes it so unpredictable is that there will not be no matter how hard they try, there's not going to be a uniform thought around how to interpret alien beings. You're always going to have people that have different views on it or what Now I think the majority of the unbelieving world are going to fully accept the extraterrestrial hypothesis. but you got you got people, you got, you know, Protestant Christians who are going to really fight back against that and say, no, this is absolutely of Satan. This is this is this if anything, this isn't proof of aliens, this is proof of God because this is this is a this is a fallen angel ty type of thing. Genesis six talks all about it And it would be up to us to say, because ancient aliens that show, you know, they always say, Well, they thought that these were angels and gods, but they were misinterpreting it. It was really aliens. Nope, that's flipped. You're misinterpreting it now. It's not aliens. They had it right back then. They knew what they were talking about. We have no clue. You know, And when I say we, I just mean the world in general, not necessarily as Christians As Christians who believe in the Bible, we do know because the Bible defines it for us. The definition is in there. If it was anything else except Genesis six, like if there was some other way to explain this The Bible would tell us, this is all we have. The Bible really only lets you come to one conclusion unless you want to twist the Bible and make it mean all sorts of crazy things that it's not saying. But if you just take the Bible at plain face value, it interprets what this phenomenon is. It doesn't use the word extraterrestrial or alien, but it definitely uses fallen angel demons and stuff like that So that that that That gives us our defensive weaponry, you know, that gives us the truth to fight back against whatever they're going to try to Now again, a lot of the unbelieving world are They're gonna to just accept that these are aliens And so I don't necessarily like if if in a press conference they rolled out, which I really don't think they would ever do this even if they if they have one. I don't think they would do this. But if they rolled out like a dead a dead body of an alien and they said, you know, we recovered this Uh fromom the Roswell crash and forty and. Yeah, there there's too many people there would be a lot of people that wouldn't believe it because look and I know he's got like a terrible reputation, but it's because of stuff like this. Every time Himi Masan brings out some new corpse, no one believes it, you know, some new alien corpse. No one believes it because and now he's tarnished his his his name and reputation. But I think that if Congress were to do that or if Trump were to do that or whatever, too many people would think this is fake How do I even know that this is real? So they would have to re it's crazy we live in a time where they would have to release more than just the dead alien body to convince a lot of people. I think a lot of people would fall for it, but a lot of people would be really skeptical. and then you got us who's in the middle trying to sort out all the lies and say like, no, this is a deception, it's satanic. it's you know, this is the Bible talks about this. You got to give your life to Jesus, you know, all of that stuff. So it would be a theres no there's no uniform of thought. There would be a lot of different perspectives, I think It's kind of like Trump coming out and saying we've got a great new deal with Iran Nobody believes it. It's like what? you know Nobody cares, you know. Nobody believes. It's like we've seen this rerun. We've already seen this episode. like how many times time and time again? Yeah. And by the way, he just said that by the way, Yeah by the time this airs this will be there'll probably be five other New deals by the then, but whatever. Yeah. So this movie is loaded with what I call seeds of deception.. I've not seen this movie. I'm only going by the transcript of it But in the movie, Jane is forced to reconsider if God's listen to this, Josh She is forced to reconsider if God's Garden of Eden You ready? was much broader than just Eth Jeez. So think about this. If mainstream media continues to push this idea that God created life on millions of other planets How here's the question How are we as believers How should we respond to the existence of a spiritual realm already that already gives account of other worlds. Now, this is referenced in Hebrews eleven three because it says that God created the world's plural tense without needing U with how do you get around that Um, you know, again, this is the seeds of deception. So how do you respond to them? Yeah Well, specifically in that verse, the word worlds comes from the Greek Aeon and it means most of the time it means ages. It can mean worlds, but most of the time it's ages. But a lot of times in the King James, it's translated as worlds. But in a lot of those verses, if you go back and like just replace that with ages with Aon, what it's supposed to be U those those those verses make a lot more sense because it's talking about specific ages. this gets into Dead Sea Scroll calendar kind of stuff, but they always had this the ancient ancient Jews always had this view of three and a half bas basically four u ages that humanity would go through the human timeline and it would total to seven thousand years. So the first is the age of creation. That's the first two thousand years and that's from creation to the callall of Abraham. Then you have the age of Torah, which is from the callall of Abraham to the aroundenty seventy six AD specifically the way that we would measure time. Then you have the age of Grace, which The Density Cs actually calls it that. That's from presumably seventy six AD to two thousand seventy six AD. People when I say that, everybody freaks out, Ohh, we got to wait til twenty seventy six to see the Rapture. No, that's not what it means. Yeah. There's a lot of different ways that this could pan out. Jesus came really early in their final fifty years, their final Jubilee of the age of Torah. He came in thirty three, thirty two died probably thirty two eighty. But he came in like thirty eighty or twenty nine eighty somewhere around there. giveive or take a year. But the end of that age didn't technically end tntil seventy six AD. So he came quite early. He could return quite early in the end of our age too. So I take it more as ages. But even if it is worlds, like even if it is supposed to be planets God did. did create the planets. That doesn't mean that they have to be inhabited with anythingactly. The verse doesn't say that. So that's that's somebody somebody saying, well, it says worlds here. so Yeah, but That doesn't mean that they're inhabited. It can be a world and not be inhabited. There's plenty of those and we have them all over our solar system. As far as we know, we're the only one that's not like that. So so I think I think yeah if somebody if somebody's trying to use that to say like, well, this that How do you get around it? I'd say, Well, I get around it by not adding to what the verse says So that never Right I remember reading some and I don't know where I read this at, but I read some somewhere some one day that each one of these planets, you know, Jupiter, Mercury, Saturn, Venus, they play a role in the in some type of balance of the Earth. They, you know They the way they've been you know, put into the cosmos into the galaxy and the way they're there and the way they're positioned, they play a role in in exactly how the Eth Um you know, how it operates. And again, I don't know I read that U Somebody I'm sure as sure as I'm saying this, somebody out there has knowledge of this Um, but I just I remember reading that and that makes sense to me because you look at just look you look at the sun, which of course that's not a planet, but you see the distance of where it's at You know, there's a purpose for that. There's, you know, so anyway, we get in all that. um againgain, I call it the seeds of deception though, when people start questioning this stuff. Another example is Okay, then think about this. if they create, this is probably my last question. We'll get into this because this one will be pretty good here. If the world accepts that if they if they present this narrative, they present their case, they bring the smoking gun, then the world the most of the majority of the world is going to accept that highly evolves supreme beings are responsible for all the myths, the historical myths all the religions All the technology How in your opinion, how does this pave the way for the Antichrist and and how believers even Remember Jesus said, if it were possible the very elect would be deceived. I don't think people realize when you read that, you just kind of skip over it. But think about, you know, all the symnopic gospel, Mthy Mark Lu All of them talk about You know, if the first thing he warned about is deception in the end times being deceived, deception. But then you go over here into Paul talks about and to the Church of Thessonica, there's coming you talk about deception. He said, there's coming something that's on a far other level of deception that will introduce lying signs. It wonders and it's and it's it's directly correlated with the introduction of the Antichrist. and what we talked about earlier is it gets into U God sitting to my strong delusion that they should believe the li. Now in my opinion, the lie there You read it in context Satan who is working through the Antichrist will set himself in the temple in Jerusalem, Revelation chapter eleven, Second Thessalonians And he will declare himself as God. I believe that's the lie in context, that's the lie But Again, you and I both know If an alien craft was to appear and an entity or a being was to step out of this thing Um, and say I am your creator And these you know, what they have been trying to keep classified for years and years and years. Think about this, Josh. I've kind of went over this my whole head. Then he comes out and he says, I've even spoken to one of your leaders of Roosevelt. Was it Roosevelt that allegedly that had the the encounter with the alien and he had the exchange and he, you know, they promised this entity promised him information and technology for, you know, what was it? I can't remember what the exchange there was an exchange. There was an agreement allegedly. So he could come out and just propagate on all this this whole narrative and the masses would fall for this. in your opinion Once you add to that your opinion or if you wantna add, you, what's your thoughts on that Yeah, and I think even going further the way that they'll prove this and show this is so I believe that the Antichrist himself is going to be a literal the literal son of Satan. Satan wants to be God. God has a son Jesus. Satan wants to copy everything and pervert everything God does. So I think he's actually going to impregnate a woman in this in this, um with the context of People are going to be thinking that these beings like like you know, Satan and these other fallen angels that they're aliens. So there's going to be there could be a hybrid between so called aliens and humanity that is the the perfect emissary, you know, the perfect the perfect spokesperson for The true creator, you know, the true like, you know whatever they say and a certain alien race created us or certain specific alien or however they're going to frame that. And then he'll prove himself by doing all these signs and wonders and you know, he'll be able to call down fire from the sky, all that stuff. But even more than that is when he desecrates the temple during the abomination, when he actually sits himself down and claims that he is God Um I believe that he's actually going to use his own blood to do that Be As when we look at yeah, when we look at anioocus epiphanies He slaughtered a pig. And I think that's that's a protype. That's that's a shadow What's more offensive Now pig is really offensive to, you know, the blood of a pig in a Jewish temple is almost the most offensive thing. What's more offense than that? Nephylon blood. That's even worse And if the Antichrist truly is a Nephalum, I believe that he probably uses his own blood in the Day of Aonement ritual where the high priest is supposed to go in, cleanse the temple, spray blood, you know do that kind of stuff, whichich by the way is interesting because that entire process It takes half an hour to complete for a priest to do that. when We read at the beginning of Revelation eight that there's silence in heaven for half an hour. I believe that that's when the Antichrist is desecrating the temple likely with his own blood. and declaring Yeah, and declaring himself to be God. And then there's the matter of the deadly head wound and the resurrection and all of that. I mean, he's going to mirror Jesus' resurrection. And then the markark of the Beast. Well, we're cleansed by the blood of Jesus. So I believe the Antichrist is going to take his genetics and offer that in the markark of the Beast, I believe that's what it is to humanity so they can have power and they can do all these amazing things too because it's going to turn them into something that's not human anymore. That's why they're not eligible for salvation once you take the markark of the Beast because you're not even human and the blood of Jesus is for humans, not for anything else, not Nephalim, not angels, nothing And so to me, that all lines up perfectly well and still, the deception can be that this is all i This is all extraterrestrial. Maybe they'll even tell people, hey, we've done this on lots of other planets. We're going to do it with you guys as well because it's time. you've reached that point. You are You are now invited to be part of the cosmic Brotherhood and be a part of this big intergalactic family that we have I mean, that would be so enticing to people that I could see why why Jesus says that if it were even possible, even the very elect would be deceived. So there's lots of ways that it could that it could pan out, but this alien deception thing is all around it Well We got about seven minutes Knowing all of this, what you know about this movie Let's just say there's let's be honest here, the art this audience is going to be believers Should believers go and watch this movie Oh, if you do it with discernment. I mean, I think it's a good idea. Okay, would I would phrase it like this. You're not required to for sure Um If you feel that it's something, if you don't feel right about it, then absolutely don't. But if you're I plan on watching it because I want to know what lies they're pushing. so I know how best to answer them. and I can't do that unless I see it. And and also I'm a movie fan anyway. you know, u I do a lot of behind the camera work in my in my own job. So I really I do like you know direction and artistic things and shots and lighting and I do enjoy that as an art form. Now obviously the message behind this movie is going to be awful, but so the main point is I want to know what lies they're putting out there so I know best how to answer them. But I would say I would say If you're a Christian out there and you're wondering if you should watch it Take it to God and just see how you feel. and just know you're not required to watch it. Somebody like me, I want to because again, it's part of my job and ministry. You're not required to watch it as a Christian. if you have a bad feeling about it or if your conscience is is bugging you about it, then absolutely don't see it, you don't have to. But just as long as you know though that the narrative that movies like this are pushing is straight from the pits of hell. If you can if you can at least explain that to somebody without having to see all this stuff, then you don't have to see it. But if you want to, I think it's fine. And if you're just interested in the movie and you like Steven Spielberg's movies and you just want to check it out, I think that's fine. But I would definitely say, you know, pray Pray first just make sure you're all protected that you don't get deceived into thinking like, man, it would be really cool if this was real. Because movies and storytelling in general does have that kind of power over people. that can happen. You know, I would just be prayed up first, but yeah, I would say basically to each his own, you know, take it to God and see what God wants you to do One last question. Do you, in your opinion, do you think that they're actually going to bring forth the smoking gun I think probablyro not before the Rpture, although I am prepared in case I'm wrong. So I think that the smoking gun, whatever that's going to be, will probably happen after the rature. Right now, I could be wrong on that and if they ever do bring out something like a craft or a body or something We all need to be really prepared like to answer that that moment. So if that happened right now, I know exactly what my answer to that's going to be. And basically you and I have been talking about it this entire show. So I would say I'm not expecting it, but I very well could be wrong. I've been wrong on stuff like that before. thingsings have happened a lot faster than I thought they were going to before. I didn't think I started ministry fifteen years ago, I didn't think it was only going to be fifteen years before we got to this point. I thought it was going to be another thirty or forty or fifty or one hundred. You know, who knows. So I could be wrong. There might be a day where there is a smoking gun or Trump just announces, Hey, we are not alone. We have been in contact these things and, you know, we're still trying to figure everything out, but it's we're not alone. And And so we as Christians, even if you're not in a teaching position, you're still a Christian, you still do know people, you do talk to people, we as Christians need to be able to have an answer for that. And I think the Bible provides us perfect answer to it because it is the only answer to it. And it's Days of Noah, Genesis six, fallen angels messing with humankind yet again, just like they did in the past. But the good thing is Jesus is coming soon and the enemy will be defeated. So that's the message of hope that we got to bring to people, and we gott to get people saved. makeake disciples of all nations A man. Well, Josh, again, it's always a pleasure to have you on brother. Again, guys, if you want to follow Josh, we put the description in this video, there all that information is there. You can find that. 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