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Everyone's Business (But Mine) with Kara Berry

Kara Berry

Friendship Dynamics and Final Arguments

From Tactile Defensive: A Real Housewives of Rhode Island RecapJun 22, 2026

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Do I selectick for a career I mean, I kind of do think you did that for the last ten years if I'm being honest. Well the only other corker had was girfriend in Florid I would have that. That was your whole thing my husband's. Not really. It's not really my thing. Well, let me know when you want a divorce letater Welcome back to another episode here of everyone's Biness but mine with me, Cara Berry, and we are on an inaugural episode once again, back with our girls of Rhode Island, part one of their very first reunion. The girls gave it, but I feel like I really have to go about this in a different way, not my traditional recaps where I just go linearly well, I mean, I will be going linearly but not so structured because there was just a lot of blocks of conversation about the same thing And I just like, it was interesting to watch, I can't imagine. me exhaustively going over this again and again and again because we really did just go in circles every time, but not again, not in a way that I was like I was entertained. But it was One, It was like three, really basically had like three conversations. Maybe even two Maybe two and a half of you would consider Rula trying to get a lick in on Joe Ellen at any moment she could Well let's get into it Of course, we gotta get into the fashions. I need to get into the fashions more. I need to get back into my fashion bags. I used to really get into what the ladies were wearing. and I haven't really been doing that. I've been neglecting. I've been neglecting myself honestly. But this year we're given blue mermaid moments, a lot of rhinestone work V just yeah, very like mermaid vibes. I gotta say we're going to be ranking top to bottom I'm going to give best rest to Ashley I like the shade of blue. I thought it really complimmented her skin I am and I also thought that the dress really fit her. It was a good stand up sit down dress, which is very important to me personally because you we get these Bravo insider first looks And what looks good when you're posing or not Somehow sometimes doesn't always translate to where you're sitting or sometimes It is a sitting dress and we're like, oh, looking at it pre reunion, and then they're sitting down and you're like, okay, I get this Other times like with Ashley Darby, it's neither of those in their Always horrible She's always got a leg out And some kind of mesh moment Deeply stressful to me, but we're not talking about her. I would say, okay, if we're doing Ashley first, I liked Kelsey's. And who else is did I like? I liked Rosie, but I think I liked the hair most. Eishia Liz Joe Ellen, I'm going to put them in the middle. you know, I wasn't really impmpressed one way or the other. They were all fine, all beautiful women Rula and there changes to her face. I'm going to have to put at the bottom. Rula's dress looked like Rosie's new house, which if you haven't seen it, looks A lot like Giseelle's new house which I mean, it's not new anymore. which have you if you haven't seen that, remember U you know, sometimes boollling works you guys. Remember when Melissa a couple years ago was like, we just renovated the house, me and Joey, look at it and everybody was like, girl What the fuck did you do? The windows were askew and weird and we had a lot of comments. They got a few months later. she was like, Okay And here's my new renovated home. you're like, o much better much better U go ahead and take a peek at what Rosie did at her home Now Kelsey, you could have saved all your little bullshit square footage arguments and waited for the final product because no shadey, Rosie, why did you do that? It's two homes that clearly have a bridge of connectiveness in a way that is very cheaply done and it just looks like They had two houses that were there separately And they were like, you know what, let's just do a big hallway in the middle It's not great. It looks like two homes. I don't know why they didn't think of something that might look like one big home more cohesive. But anyway, that's what Rullea's dress looked like. It looked like two very separate issues smacked together Mm Also, did you guys know that the name of Kelsey's no, Rosie's see? I'm like, oh, I knew all of them. first episode I could tell the difference and I'm not understanding why people keep saying that Rosie and Kelsey look so much alike and I just did it. Anyway, did all YouTube series road tripping that Rosie does. was a pun. I didn't realize it was RH OD road tripping. That's cute, kind of. As we know We do a little round Robin introducing the girls. Andy saying hello to them. How you doing? And his next question is like which one of you had work done since cameras went down? Rula? Seems like he's jed your face a little bit Thatot's just your face. She announces after twenty five years, she decided to get some rhinoplasty and I think she admitted to a lip flip or something. Not great, babe. Listen, we know that nose job healing takes a lot of time. We also have not not seen several housewives arrive on camera. thking of you Vicki. You know That lady from New Jersey, the one we don't talk about city Remember when she came on And she had that bandage wrapped around her face. and we were like, o, what a funny lady We're in it for the long haul with her. Certainly she's normal Anyway, It's not the surgery being in process, the healing, you know, we're always on a healing journey It's I don't know what it is. It's not good. If your vibe was upturned, you should have known that was gonna take a lot more time for it to settle Like if you're not if you're just like trying to like take a little bit off the ball at the tip or something, like those things can look be a little bit more subtle, but if you were totally upturning the nose, like you need at least a year at least bare minimum four months before we know what really is going on with the nose. I feel for Rula though, because personally I don't recall having any sort of opinion on her nose, but I never do I'm like not one of those girls that's like, oh, she's got a horrible nose. It's just never been my ministry. I won't name names, but there are a couple of people on Bravo, a couple women on Bravo who have gotten nose jobs that I feel is an absolute tragedy And it upsets me With that being said, like I feel bad that Rula clearly has like watched herself on television all fourteen minutes of it. and clearly, you know, like a lot of women, housewives will come on and then you know, we're seeing a lot of changes being made after they see themselves watched, you know, they're watching themselves all season and that's sad And that's sad. So, you know, here we are though Let's work with what we got. We do start off with more fun facts with Alicia. going to talk about like the history of the women and how far it goes back. So Alicia and Liz's niece were besties. They were I'm so sorry. I'm laughing because I'm in a group chat we're talking about the new guys from Love Island and going through them and it's tough It stuff anyway. Liz and Alicia', Liz ands Niece and Alicia were besties. They hung out, they play dollies together. And then Alicia tells Andy, you know how I said I love a horse She used to ride horses and I tried and I got wealths all over me. I couldn't ride a horse with her. I cried. I love a horse but I't ride him. It's messed up. Okay, so the big topic number one was between Kelsey and Rosie How were you guys doing since season wrapped notot Well bitch? Rosie says I agreed to coxist That was my plan. Kellsey says, I think when we apologize to each other Our apologies were pretty inigned But then Rosie was talking in a confessional saying it was the worst apology of her life. And Rosie tells everyone, in terms of my apology, I gave her the best I could. It was actually more than she fucking deserved. I said, I'm sorry for my reaction and that's what you get Andy wants to know what everybody wants to know, which is what is going on with you too? Kelsey, why do you have all this energy for Rosie? Why do you guys not get along? Surely, this is not all due to Rosie not tagging you on Instagram and giving you a shout out for cutting her hair So Kelsey says, Kind of what I figured. She says I was privy to a lot of things prior to filming But it's more like a personality thing and like, I think Rosie's got this competitive nature. I've always felt like she's had towards me And I've tried to get along with her, but the haircut's a prime example. It wasn't about her not posting me. It was about how months after she was posting everybody, she was posting pizza mama, but not me. Okay, I can understand how you might feel like, hmm, that's a little weird. but I also feel like some kind of slip through the cracks sometimes. You know what I mean? This could just be a my bad situation and we should have just let it go But in terms of Kelsey saying there was a competitive nature between us, I remember telling you guys, I feel like Kelsey and Rosie. Within casting, we're like the two young girls And I do feel like there was some competition. Kelsey is saying it was more on Rosey's side, but I feel like it was more on Kelsey's side where she felt like there can only be one of us And so I'm gonna to fight for my life and get Rosie out of here. But then Rosie's looking at her like, okay fine, but like I'm the actual real house wife The wife. who has a home So I don't understand why are you coming for me because technically, You're hating from outside the club that you can't get in because your man just left you or whatever He gave you an ultimatum that you were forced to leave. So I this is what I think happened is that Kelsey feels in direct competition to Rosie doesn't really have a way to express that or say that And so she's just coming for her in the hopes that Rosie just leaves. I wonder if maybe this is like a I mean, this is very pageant girl behavior very like I'm gonna to just like be petting and say and make up, whatever the fuck. and then maybe she just like leaves eventually and then I don't have to worry about her again. The unfortunate thing for Kelsey, however, is that you know, I'm very basketball pilled takaking off the residual effects of Nixon five, but it is like watching Kelsey having to perpetually shoot threes from like half court, whereereas Rosie has a Big. trash can that's shaped like a basketball hoop right under her hand, and she can just drop it in 'cause Kelsey doesn't have anything And then all Rosie can do is make very good valid T points on her that are deeply shady and embarrassing. Andy does have Ashley Iy tap in as influencer. What do you think is code here? And Ashley says the way Kelsey talks about it, it makes it seem like it was more important that Rosie didn't post her than developing any type of actual friendship with her And I feel like Rosie paid you for the haircut. There's a vendo receipt of it Rosie says and I recommend you do to other people and I said you were like really good. I was complimentary toward you. I think it's kind of weird that you're I feel like it's kind of weird that you're taking notes of what I'm tagging and How many shouts out to Pizza Mama I was doing, But if you don't like me, fine, but I feel like there are a lot of excuses with you and never any accountability. Andy asks Kelsie, do you like Rosie? And she says, Rosie like a silent killer to me. Because she's fine with me on the show and then behind the scenes, she's instigating my entire time. And Rula's like, boy, do I know the feeling of that And she starts staring at Joe Ellen An the switches to asking Rosie Where did you get the term slam pig? Rosy says I actually learned it from one of Alicia's friends And Eastia like Kelsey, by the way, you're not a sland pig, but I do love that word Rosie has to then walk Kelsey through the fact because she was like, what what am I, Kelsey? just like a fat pump and dump fat woman who pumps and dumps is that what I am? A slampig And Kelsey's like,, I didn't mean like a literal definition. I was just Joking, ma'am Just a general term Rosie says, You came after my house, my man, my marriage, my career. but God forbid I call you a slamig Andy then takes it to a show of hands, who thinks Kelsey pulling up to Rosie's house with a bullt horn saying eight thousand square feet more like eight thousand square inches Who thought that was funny? So Joelen, Liz, and Kelsey all raise their hands. Rosie's like, Not surprised about that. We'll get more into that later. Andy asks the viewer a question. basasically saying that Rosie, you can't be crying victim about this whole thing when you told Rich you were going pull up with a blueprint and a measuring tape kind of seemed like you were ready for a fight before Kelsey got there too. So maybe we can just say thereair's fair. And then Kelsey tries to say she doesn't care about the square footage, she cares about the embellishments But the embellishments of what Rosie's like, you've been trying to disredit me. You've accused me of having affair, you've accused me of getting fired, neeither of those are true. Kelsey's like, okay, well Didn't you say that I suckedick for a career? And Rosey's like, I mean, I do kinda think you did for the last ten years if I'm being honest. And Kelsey, you don't ask questions at this moment Just let it go But no. She asks How do you figure? And Rosie's like, well, the only other coworker you had was a girlfriend in Florida And what do you say to that? Nothing But then Kelsey keeps going, well, do you suck your husband's dick That's her husband. Rosie says, honestly no, it's not really my thing and Kelsey's like, All right, well let me know when you want a divorce lawyer. Okay, good one, girl Th are so bad. Like you're so I don't even think Rosie is trying. Like you're trying really hard. And Rosie's just responding to me and it's very easy for her We gotta let this go, find something else to do. nextext season, Kelsey. Don't continue this fight. Please don't because even if you want it, even if you feel some type of way, even if your ass is trapped, just let it go because you're not fit for this against Rosie and she's only going to get more powerful against you. So Think about that, please. because it's really getting to a point where I'm getting open secondhand cringe embarrassment from you girl Let it go And I don't dislike Kelsey. I just feel like this whole thing against Rosie was very whack. And then it gets even more whack because Andy asks Joellen about these rumors that Rosie had an affair with a or a coworker. whichich one? She had both Rosie says this is a rumor that came up on Reddit like three years ago, and Joe Ollens's like, excuse me, he was asking me You want to get your backyard summer ready, but you don't want to break the bank? Wayfair gets it, planning on dining alfresco or relaxing poolside Wayfair has everything you need to prep your space. Shop now and save up to seventy percent off during Wayfair's fourth of July clearance. sccore huge deals on outdoor furniture, area rugs, and more. We're talking thousands of products for every style and budget. Plus, sururprise Flash Deals July sixth. Don't wait. 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Limited time offer. restestrictions apply. newew customers only, requires three hundred megab per second internet, secur edge and additional qualifying service, one year agreement, paperless billing and autoay bank account required. tax and fees extra And Hosy's like, all right, well, it's about me, but anyway Andy's like, Ohh it was on Reddit? Was there that much interest in road tripping Rosie, he's like, no, I was on NBC. It was, you know, the Rhode Island's biggest news station. And so she left, she took a medical leave of absence. Her ass was bleeding or leaking or whatever it was. She didn't want to tell anybody This is why I left my ass hasouse problems. so she just dipped. She just didn't say anything and then the rumor started swirling because it was just sort of like to Ininky Dink at the same time. But the guy was actually having an affair with a student reporter. Now Rosie has to be tries to be like, well, that's not true because if this was like a boss Uh, you know Employee situation, there would have been an investigation. Link how would you have known Jo Ellen taps in I think in defense of Rosie, but also it didn't really make sense. She says, I don't find him attractive Rosie Like, not cute L he doesn't seem like you're type. Okay, so is what point are you making Joella A police report comes up in which apparently Rosie was listed in the DUI this guy got her DUI. Apparently Rosie was in the c, she was listed in the police report Rosie very fairly is like Pull up the receipt. So you got the police report? Do it, like show me the police report. Turns out none of these women have actually seen the police report. According to Joellen, a few of the cops who wrote the police report told her this information, which I mean, I don't really know anything about cops. I thought, how many cops does it take to write a police report? Wouldn't it just be like the cop that was there? The on duty cop, how many cops would have been there for a DUI? I mean, I guess it depends Girl, I don't know This sounds like shit that Jo Ellen, which is actually surprising because we know that Joe Ellen's good for an actual receipt. Very shocking to me that she would not try to vet this information and it didn't even seem all that convincing that she heard this from the cops who filed the report. We do take a brief break to pay respects to Liz's thirteen year old cat Gonji who recently passed away, the one that was on that Um the leash She would walk up and down the dock Beautiful cat And then we get into Liz's history. She's basically the J Wow of Rhode Island in the sense that You think she's Italian, but actually she's Irish But Liz is Syrian, whereas I think Jenny is just like truly just Irish. Liz is Syrian and a little bit Irish But you think she's Italian, she's not Andy then asks Rula about hinting and kind of putting it out there that Jerry and Liz He's done his things, she's done hers. When the cats away, the mice will play type shit. She kept saying this in a confessional. And Liz is like, do you know something? What are you talking about? And now Rula wants to start backtracking and pussy popping. Well, I just know when Gary was away, Liz struggled and she said tryry to fill her time with other support systems But has anything been confirmed? No, I'm just busting her chops. Like you can't just bust somebody's chops about fucking some other dude outside of her husband That's not a topop bust, maam Liz is like, you look like you want to say something. like do it What are you talking about? I don't care. Rula then says, Liz and I have talked about past struggles, but I don't know anything definitively. Liz again is like, I'm gonna need you to articulate these conversations that you claim that we've been having about me doing whatever. When did I specifically talk to you about any kind of infidelity? And Rule is like, Oh, did you openly share any infidelity with me? And then she starts looking around for the answer Andlissa is like, do you have to think about it? So finally, Rola admits no, they have not had any sort of these conversations, but then she's like, well, I've been to places that you've been lives like Block Island And this is like just say it, I'm dying for you to say it. I've actually just been waiting for like four year for you to come out with it And I want to thank you for it So now everybody's confused. Andy asks Rula, what did you see in Block Island? She said Liz was having a good time with people and getting close. Liz again tells Rula, say what it is so that I can respond to it. So that she has to be like, okay. like four years ago, she and Jerry were separated. She and the girls had gone to Block Island on Labor Day Liz ran into some dude from thirty years ago. They were having themselves a good time drinking, he was picking her up, whatever. sixix o'clock the next morning. Wh gets a phone call from? Brian and Rula, Jerry. This is like they were just couldn't wait to report Rula says that's a lie. Go ahead, subpoena the phone records, get a subpoena. And he's like a subpoena. Nobody's doing that. I hate to say it, but Rula's very Jennifer Aiden from New Jersey coded. like there's just I mean, I did like her husband a lot better than I like Brian, but there's a protection of the marriage that doesn't really seem like there's a whole lot of love there and we're just like forcing intimacy. I do think that the show actually helped Jen Aiden in that regard a little bit Why can't I think of her as M same? I'm just All I can imagine is scar from the Lion King. We got to move on. They're not coming back to the show. Anyway, but Rula is very like she has no problem putting shit out about other people shit that doesn't stick to the wall, doesn't really seem grounded in truth. But then when you call out the real shit that's going on with her, suddenly we'reulling out subpoenas, things are AI, everything's fake, and everybody needs to stop talking about you. And everybody's so obsessed and what would they be talking about if not for me? And almost like it's deeply annoying At one point, Joe Ellen tells Rula she's being really aggressive and Rula go, shut your mouth. I'm so sick Howi are you were talking about such about Joelan's like you shut yourouth Sorry you caught You and your husband love calling people you love tattling Liz says Rula and Brian were trying to have an aha moment on her with Jerry. Annie has to explain to Rula When you say things like when the cat's away, the mice will play and they're doing their thing, he's doing hers. It kind of suggests that something else is going on. And then suddenly Rle is like, well, I don't want to say other people saw things, but I don't want to get involved in it. And then Andy's like, okay, but when you say it like that, it doesn't sound like one off situation. it sounds like an ongoing Rula says, well I'm done talking about it because there's no resolution to be had And I'm not going to be accused of doing things I haven't done. And Liz is like, okay If you weren't calling, then it was Brian You shouldn' just really just s there in nature food, Rula So then Annie asks Liz Speaking of L the ongoing, what were you referring to when Liz crashed the fuck out at Jerry's birthday party, stududio fifty forty birthday party when she was like, I just want to be with Jerry and Dina down by the seawall And Kelsey was like, do you think that's a good idea? Considering the ongoing? Now I feel like we still did not get an answer as to what the ongoing was It was just like sort of vague illusions of like there were all these rumors and allegations and I just wanted to clear things up, but you didn't clear anything up. I still am of the belief that this ongoing has nothing to do with rumors about a romantic relationship with Dino and all to do with a different Tansactional relationship with Dina Financial and perhaps shading that's tied up in the courts That's what I think It's the ongoing, but we don't we don't have to talk about it We really don't. Andy asks by a show of hands, is anyone scared of Liz? Aishia says it kind of depends on the day. Rosie says sometimes that Capo I was, and Jo Ellen says, yeah, I was scared at Capo too They cut for break whichich felt Like whyy did we take a break right after asking a question like that? But Rula tells Liz, I want to talk to Jerry and Liz is like, No, I've known this for a couple months R's like, I swear to God, I don't know where this came from. And L's like, why would Jerry make this up? He doesn't even know what day it is. So we come back, switch subjects to Ashley, who all knew her before she joined the show. Seems like it was only Kelsey and Rosie. Now Andy takes it to a vote on how many times they think Ashley cried. She said twelve actuallyually turned out to be seven Alica got it right. She's like, I knowew what I'm psych Andy asked a viewer a question from Patty from Queens, who said Kelsey, I guess before the show came out was saying that Ashley doesn't hang out with anybody outside of filming Ashley says I've never really been invited by anybody certainly not pay Kelsey to do anything. so I just feel like it's kind of a two way street So then Annie asks Ashley about her loyalty to Rosie and whether or not that has impeded her ability to make friendships with other people. And Ashley says, I don't, but my relationship with Rosie's super essential Oh I'm gonna chke up. So that takes us up to eight the crime count went from seven to eight Ashley then goes on to say that she hasn't been able to make friends at her age. you know, in your thirties, it's hard, especially as a mother. And basically Rosie will just beat her where she's at literally. They'll go to like Mommy and me, gym class with the kids. She's in the playroom. they're talking about Disney stuff, They're watching full house together. It's just really nice that you know she's got a friend and Rosie. , I don't think we've ever been to dinner and drinks Rosie just kakes it with her while she's parenting Any then switches to Joe Ellen and herer saying that she was like a good time girl in her twenties and R was like, yeah, she still is Joonan's like, give me the perf Rula But then rule is like, didn't you get kicked out of college? You didn't get kicked out of your school? You weren't a problem in high school. and Joe Oens' like, yeah, we all know that I was trouble in high school. got sent away. I talked about it like three times. I think I made that very clear. That's really classy. to bring up some of these problems from when they were under the age of eighteen. which I agree. like it's just like, what do you want me to do? So we find out what the big thing was that got Jo Ellen takeen into the treatment center, whatever you want to call it, that like behavioral center the last time She says that she took a shower or pretended to take a shower and then jumped out the window of the bathroom to go see her boyfriend. And Andy's like, you thought that was gonna work He's like, Well, I think it did for a while. Then we get into the relationship with her mom, How's that going? Not great She's watched a show, didn't really love how she has been portrayed and what Joellen has been saying about her. And Joellen reveals that her mother's also weaponizing child care and basically told her, if you say anything bad to Andy about me, I'm not watching her kids anymore. So I'm assuming She's probably not gonna watchh the kids anymore. I have a feeling she's not gonna love that And then Joe Ellen's job status comes up, she reveals she was laid off But Andy asks, do you think Brian had anything to do with it? And she's like, you know, I honestly don't know. Of course, Rulea is like, Brian had nothing to do with that. and Joan's like, I didn't finish speaking And then she's like, whyy are you even here actually? You were in three episodes Anyway, they laid off a bunch of people. I don't really know if it had anything to do with Brian and Rula. Rula says, I didn't do anything, correct yourself Joe Willens says, you were maybe not on that call, but you were in the room. She's like, no, I was in the house And John says, no, you were within earshot So Andy asks Joe Ellen, do you think Brian had any involvement in your firing again? And Joe Ellen says, he didn't call my boss. He called my colleague who then made a formal complaint. Rulis says because he knews your colleague and Joelan's like, whyy do you keep saying the story wrong You think I don't know my own fucking story? 'cause I have the proof. What do you have? What do you have She then finishes and says I don't think Brian helped. I don't think it helped a brain called. But I don't know what led up to my being laying off. I just know that my boss had to talk to me about Brian calling and he wrote in a formal complaint and that was Brian was trying to get me fired and he said he was going to sue my company at the time if they didn't lay me off. Hey, it's Paagege from Giggly Squad and I want to let you know that if you want the newest and hottest beauty products, you have to go to Sephora. I'm obsessed with the one size liquid blotting paper spray. It's the first of its kind blotting spray that mattifies for up to eight hours. It's unreal. There's also the Summer Friday Shade Drops SBF fifty, which basically lives in my bag at this point Oh, and the Kali Eden Plush pair smells so good. It's sweet, warm, and addictive. 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L what else was she gonna to say? Andy then asked Jo Ellen, what's going on with your job status She says she got another job But it was only for a little while she decided that she was going to be a stay at home mom Fcus on the kids. Obviously, it has to do with the show. Obviously it has to do with her being an influencer because we were presented this like Joe Ellen was the breadwinner, right? Gary was like more at home and she was making a good amount of money, right? Am I wrong about that? So Obviously something happened We take another break. Rulisays, Andy I actually have Brian's surgery records for the day that that alleged video was taken. I have the whole entire schedule. And Andy's like, al right, well, we're taking a five minute break. We're not cameras up right now. Joe Hen says Roilla, do you know what Brian does? He prints out AI things for you and he tells you he's going to conferences, but he actually goes out with beep He's the AI queen And then something interesting happens, Rula looks at someone. Most of the women are off the stage. It almost looked like she was looking at Ashley because Ashley was getting micked up or they were doing something. It looked like Rula looks at Ashley and she says, Can you share what one of the doctors told you when the cameras are rolling again So I wonder if we find that out. Joellan tells Rula all you do is say I'm lying, but you haven't even seen the video and Rulle' is like it doesn't matter It was done Joe Ellen tells her they didn't stop fucking until December. They were still beaten up in January. Ashley says, we just need to get Brian out here, he can defend himself. But then Rula and Jo Ellen really start getting into it on stage. Rula is telling Joe Ellen, I already told you I'm handling things my own way Jo Oen says, I stopped. But did you not think that this was gonna come up? We're at the reunion girl. Of course we're gonna have to talk about this. Rula iss like, what are you gonna do tort me until I'm eighty five years old? Let it be Producer tells them, Okaykay, let's just wait until cameras roll again. When cameras is picked back up, we have to go talk about home escape between Liz and Alicia. Liz does say the minute it came up initially, I was just trying to protect you. I didn't want to have any backlash on you, like that's it. I'm truly sorry Coming it was not my intention. And then L says, you know, in Kabala, they say when you bring red to someone's face, it's like the greatest sin that broke my heart that I did that to you and I'm sorry. And Eishia's like, No, I know you didn't mean that maliciously She then mentions that she hadn't even told Billy about her life situation. She's like really embarrassed about it because she's got all these cousins. And according to her, they had the perfect life, but she was like kind of fake until you make it. And then Liz kept bringing up homeless homeless, homeless and it just felt like she was suffocating in that car, the car. on the way to Capo, and I just hate that I didn't have control of my emotions. Now here's where things shift to a big conversation about the car about home escape. And it seems like I'm going to say it seems like Liz straight up says she feels like it was a scheme that Alicia and Jo Ellen set up There was a group chat a few days before they went to Capo And Liz believes that Alicia told her They were going to bring this whole home escaate thing up again. and I guess Liz felt like she was baited into it. Elicia's like, why would I tell you if I was going to set you up? Wh would I give you Days A heads up to do it. Like why would I do that? That doesn't even make sense. This never happened and I don't know what you're talking about Liz maintains that this was something that was spoken about and that she said, please don't bring this up again. But If this were true, Liz, and there's another side to this, which is if you knew that this was going to come up and if you felt like Jo Ellen in the car was constantly like, woooo, it's okay, Alicia, feel your feelings. You have every right to feel that way, but was not doing anything to be like, w woo, woo, Liz, you have every right to feel the way you do She just felt like she was getting like picked up, prodded, provoked. and she used the word ambush. But again, you can't be ambushed three days ahead of time. And if you know what you're going into, if you know what conversations are going to come up, thenen why don't you take the three days to control your emotions Shut it down. Talk about it in a way that's like D escalating If you I don't like how can it be an ambush if you know Aishia iss even more confused, like I have a nervous breakdown in the car. Do you think I wanted everybody to see me like that? That's crazy. That's actually scary That scas me. Liz, take accountability. I don't like that You can't say that out loud. Interestingly enough, Liz does bring up there were some voice memos that were about this. and she says to Joe Ellen, you're the world's number one detective Don't tell me that you didn't hear those voice memos talking about this. Joe Ellen says, donon't you remember that day I was busy And Liz is like, yeah, you were at the Morgan Wallen concert, which I feel like we all knew what Liz was making sure. We heard about Ms Jo Allen because I feel like there are certain types of people who go to Morgan Wall in concerts and support him at this point in time. And Liz knew what she was doing. She knew, she knew Anyway, Rula decides to get another lick on Joe Ellen and says Nobbody believes you and Joe Allen's like, noody believes you a husband She keeps trying to get a jab in anyt time she can to hammer in that Joe Ellen's a liar. Finally, Jo Ellen's like, shut the fuck up with speaking. Rlet says, kiss my ass and Joe Ellen's like, you don't have an ass. Y skin's falling off and Rulet's like, well at least I don't have to pump OzZempic to look like this. Rula calm down. It's funny, it's confusing, it's entertaining. I'm like, where are you getting all this base from? She's trying so hard to like buck up, but it's just like not quite working But keep doing it. I keep going, I guess Liz keeps calling Jo Eellen the world's number one investigator And she does bring up a would it goes so far to say fair, but I think it is a point to be made of Yeah, maybe I've shifted your extensions. I kicked your chair, but you also spent three hours touching me and telling me to calm down. and I kept telling you, please stop touching me. And she says, I'm tactile defensive I've never heard that before. And Jo Ellen tells her, usually people take that as a sign of affection And this is like, well, not from you Joellen says, you're saying that you're trying to protect Alicia, but I'm trying to protect you in the exact same way. Andy says for what? And Jo Allen says, we're looking crazy It was like, oh, yeah, from the biggest psychopath on the planet and Juwellen's like, I own that I'm a psychopath. I own that So they take a break for lunch, Joellen and Alicia are talking backstage. Joellen tells her, I feel like Liz is so paranoid that we're trying to come after her, but I was just trying to calm that situation in the cut. Kelsey's telling Liz, I feel like when Alicia cried, she thought it was maybe going go the other way. So maybe you should get her a sash that says, not homeless See, Kelsey, this is the shit that you do that you think is like funny and people don't find funny So we come back from break and we hop right back into Liz feeling ambushed at Capo and why she was so mad at Joellen. And Liz says, I think it's because Jo Ellen was on board with this plan to ambush me. and, you know, looks like And I was attacking Alicia, but that's not exactly how things went down Jo Allen tells her, I really think you need to take ownership of your behavior in the car Unless it's like, babe, you' the most cunning scary human being I've ever looked at in the face of my entire life And she accuses Alicia of amping herself up in the car intentionally, just like she got book at Rosie when they were at the beach and she was like, Don't come for me, bitch. You're from Rhode Island, bitch Alic's like gagged at this point. She is now getting accused of intentionally ampping herself up to provoke Liz into her a reaction. And she's like, get over yourself. Okaykay, you're not that great. It wasn't a setup, 'cause if it was, it would have been a lot better than that. Now relax. Back to Liz making these like little points towards Joell and she does say in terms of me like pushing your chair Didn't you say leading up to that, you were gonna beat the fucking shit out of me And Jo Elln's like, ye, I did. So there are a couple things where Jo Ellen, I wouldn't say she provoked, but she definitely could have taken the hint in not escalating things further. I do agree that she was trying to genuinely deescalate things But she also wasn't taking hints with Liz at times Ashley, I will say does sick up for Liz at Capo Night and she says I was there and I was kind of viewing the Liz and Joe Ellen back and forth as like a Two people going after each other sort of thing, not like a one sided fight It wasn't just like Liz attacking Joelen I felt like I wanted to go over there and comfort Liz and Liz looks over it Ashley very slowly and just says, Barely above a whisper

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