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If you're doing one of your classic Donald moments that's going to make you go woozy, You might want to just back up from the mic I'm in no mood to be What you trying to get into a day soon, what you're trying to do? Let's get into the podcast. G get into it. How are you, man I'm good. I got a little headache. I think I think may have had one glass of wine too many that led to a what's called a headache Really? I drank a little bit of beer last night and woke up with a little bit of a uh It's gone now, but it was like a little bit of a stuffy nose, like a little bit of a a runny nose. When I drink a lot of hops Yes.g or wheat or whatever that is. Yes. I get a little bit of a runny nose, I've noticed. Well I drink a little bit too much wine, I get what's called a headache. That's because it the sugar though I know need to drink more water when you drink your wine. Of course you do, but I like it Makes me happy. By the way, a lot of people were saying they do want to play the Bingo game. I told you. I was wrong told you So let's get some bingo cards from that. or you know, it wouldd be good Jell if we could get that guy's thing and then have it be easily downloadable for people. work on that? Yeah, so they can play along We might need different bingo. We need different Yeah, we need different bingo cards. That's I'm trying to tell you. Well, who's gonna do all that manual labor Hi fans, if you would like to make bingo cards they available for free. You would have our never ending gratitude. We can't pay you, but our gratitude and our love and our respect and a shout out right here on the pod. I will shout out R Not only that, but if you live in the United States of America, we will ship to you Right can boot you. So just you know, if you're in the mood, if you got the time, make yourself a fake doctor's real friends bingo card so everyone can play along. and somehow Joell will figure out a way to make them available. Yes. can do that We we can select a winner at random. So just making the card does not guarantee you some GT Cbucha. justust to clarify, I can pick one of you guys in. Oh Joelle's doing the small print now I think he's supposed to say that like fast and low, like def finding your card is Cited sayates Um By the way, you are allowed to go to the UK, Donald. You have to just quarantine alone for fourteen days. It's's it's the because you know, the UK left the E you. So you just can't we we're not allowed to go to Europe Got it Isn't that so embarrassing? We're so bad at this that we've been banned from Europe. That's how it goes. Yeah That's how it goes. We didn't exactly nail it. We missed. We missed By a lot It's I saw this graph. I saw this graph that showed the first spike and then it said it was labeled naive. and then it showed the second spike and it goes stupid Like you can call the first spike naive, but the second spike is just stupidity you know, and I'm just talking about this because it's been the whole year so far. The whole year fucking put on a mask guys. All of this bullshit about I don't need to wear a mask. Like I was watching the news and some dude actually said The same thing that they said in the beginning Oh, it's just like the flu. If I get it You know, my body could fight the infection. You know, I'm not afraid of this thing He has no idea No, I didn't. Now granting grant He was coming from Arizona and going to Florida, the two hotspots in the United States, but Dill dude. I read in Wisconsin, they're having a Hd immunity festival people that want to try and get it are all going to meet and go to this festival so they think that they can get it and create some sort of herd immunity. But hasn't herd immunity proven not to work with this virus Some people have caught it twice Yeah, and not in and I think in Sweden, they did a whole experiment where they weren't going to do It didn't work It didn't work. No, and it didn't save them many dollars for their economy either. It has not been a success U How are you, Donle Fazon? How' know, the picture you posted of your daughter in the Zach Graft towel really is a beautiful shot. It put a tear to my eye because she's such a beautiful child and what a glorious towel Anyway, how how are you? How's life over at your house? How are things's different man you know You're still using the inflatable are the kids over the inflatable thing you bought from the backyard? Yeah, they are. So we started to do a little bit of golf. So you know how I saw that I saw that picture of you and your kids all playing golf. You know how I love to play golf? So I took them to the driving range my daughter is really excited about it. She's gung ho about hitting balls with Dad and she You know, she's picking it up My son, however, would rather play video games. I made a mistake when I was when I was a few years ago. Well, last year I introducce Rockco to video games Big mistake Every word out of his mouth now. Now granted, his vocabulary has grown Hm by leaps and bounds, but Holy cow, man, if I got to hear about You know, u Minecraft and the Enderen and and jewels and all of that stuff. is Minecraft is his favorite Well, no, he has three favorites. Okay, what Well now four It's Minecraft Zelda Breath of the Wild I see Joell loves breath andild down. This is a child of taste. Yeah. well yeah Star Wars battlefront whichich is a first person shooter game, but in the Star Wars universe. And the fourth one It just started happening and it's like some I don't remember nameam somethingomet like Castle I don't know. Anyway, the hold on. Racco And the We've never gotten a feature from We have one feature a while ago from Rock. Very R. It's beenent a minute. Rocko's first cameo I'm excited toar this lastist can.e too. Oh my God. it can't be It can' be Castlelvania, that's so violent It' also Castle Crashers. I thought it might be Castle Crashers. That can be. I don't know Castle Crashers. What is this? Four player co op very like low polyraphics. It's really fun Yes, a living room game. I love it. Major living room game game that everybody can play. A game you can play in your couch. Everybody can play. Yeah. Yeah, everybody in your house can sit on the couch and play a game. the game Whereas Minecraft, you could play it with four players, but that shit is tough. or two players. I'm not sure, but u and I just got an Xbox one. so I think I'm going to try and get into you know get castle crashes if you're into if you know what you really listen, I know we The switch and get Zelda Breath of the wildness It's that's what he's he's playing on Switch. That's the one game he plays on Switch and that That game alone is worth buying the switch for Okay. Kerian. Well, I just got Xbox because I feel like I've reached the point in quarantine where I'm gonna have to start doing some new stuff. and swch dude want to get into a video game Get the switch in GZelda. I'm telling you right now. I'm sure can the breath of the wild. I just got an Xbox one. I'm sure I can find a game to play on Xbox onene. Why are you telling me to get a whole different system? because this I'm telling you right now, Dude, if you want to play a game that's going to occupy your time and make your brain to you know, thanking stuff Zelda Breath of the wild. Okay A I wrong guys? Please, if I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. You're certainly not wrong. It's a great game. There's also great games for I will now go return to return the Xbox one because I don't say Donald Dond's one. cannot think of a game that I might like on Xbox one. so I'm gonna I return it games that I like on Xbox one could think of game. The back patle, I don't know what type of gamer Zch is. Like what do you like in your video ges video games? I don't really play, but when we were making the TV show sccrubs, I would get into games. And the last game I remember being really into was Hitman. The first one The first one Okay, all right. I really liked it because for me It was u I like the idea of like having to play a character and like go undercover And and like you'd feel your heartbeating when they were starting to figure you out And I really I really like that. I would I finished that game. I finished that game. That's how But there's another one There's been a second one that apparently is really good that I never played. Third one on the way Third one on the way. So I think I might I don't know. what do you call that kind of game? That's what I like Totally. I feel like you might be like an Elder Scrolls or like a Skyrim kind of guy I don't like too much wizardy shit. When peoplege Elder Scrolls, get the F outt of here. Aisten Skyrim too. When people start I like GTA. He might like GTA. When people start throwing like wizard spells, I'm out. I don't like that. I like reality I started to like that one the Spider Man kid is playing Unchargedent. No, no, no, uncharted. Oh, Uncharted. That' a good one. Rate game series. Yeah. I think only problem. It's for the PlayStation. So you can't get it on Xbox. sorry Also I there's isn't there a wild West one that's kind of a. Red deademptad Redemption. Yeah. G dead. Yes. Yes. get that super wor. get that get the second one. Red Nad Rdemption two. two. Al I' just gonna throw it out there Assassin's Creed ' I don' like I don't like those games. Wha! There go. It's very similar to Hitman. It's very similar It's video game form It is very similar. I just find it's weird that I don't't, I just don't like the game I don't know. that's just..'s totallyine. totally f. Also in cyberpun sev seven comes out Zach. I feel like you will really enjoy that game because you could create every aspect and I mean every aspect of your character and then your choices determine the storyline So there's not one linear storyline that every player will have. It's entirely based on your choices throughout the game. It's supposed to be really good. I'm very excited. I tried to get him into GTA Donl because you were obsessed with it while we did scrubs, but I just I find it I find it boring after a while. Well, then you might not like Red dead Redemption too, then if that's the c because it's the same it's kind of the same thing as GTA Jumion was like going around we're about to get into our first fight. Let's talk about this because every game that I'm like, this shit is dope. You're like right. And then every game that you're like, this shit is dope. I'm like, that shit sucks. So let's get into it. we should No, we probably shouldn't because we should segue off video games because there might be listeners who are already bored as fuck about us talking about video games We can do this later Yeah Okay I should do a video game podcast. Okay By the way, I saw a lot of a chatter about people really wanting a Donald Joell Star Wars podcast So I think you guys need a side hustle. I'm going to agree with us starting Star W. You guys can just go off. I you won't get stopped by me. You won't have me going, I'm so bored. You guys can geek out about Star Wars forever 'll be so if wants to do a Star Wars podcast. We're down to be the hosts of it, aren't we, Joel? Absolutely, absolutely. Eespecially, I think between the two of us, we probably know everyverybody who's either involved in like the creation and orre talking about. I know at the talking heads from like Star Wars dot com and you know, people like that. It'd be fun to do like interviews and talk about our favorite characters. I can get you Deborah Chao who directed a bunch of the Mandalorians and is directing the new OB one series. She's my friend. When tell you, I will sob openly. I'm so obsessed with Deborah. Oh my go. can get you your first mega guest, Deborah Chow That would be our first episode All right, let me bring it into to the high sts and we'll discuss. you go I want to cut I want to cut. And I and I wantan to occasionally come on and be like, this is so boring. You'll never'll never have you on the podcast. You wantan to fucking count us in, Donald's? Let's fucking start to count us in. but I also want to talk about the fact that U ourur neighbor in New York City when we lived in New York went to Twitter Amy Tan went to but somebody hit her up and said, Is this story true? And she was like, I don't know, I don't know She was like, I don't ever recall writing a letter to anyone But I've had several people live subblet the place. So can you tell me the year And I'm going to tell it the year. It would have been summer of two thousand two, right Either two thousand two or two thousand Well we came out two thousand one Yeah thekemon and one, so it would have been summer of sum two thousand two Smmer It was it was the loft in Soho and it was the one right above your loft Miss Tan. and we apologize. We were young and we were partying and we were loud And if it wasn't you, Well we were told it was you and we definitely got a letter that we assumed was from you. And then we also got told We also got told by whoever we rented from that we needed to shut the fuck up Yeah and keep it de. And they kept our deposit too. I wrote a very angry letter about them keeping our deposit. I do remember that as well. Yeah, because I was like, this is some BS. Because we, you know, the place had some problems. We loved it, but it had some problems Yeah like not enough room. If you ever rent a place and it's got all these problems, but you kind of suck it up and you're like, o, whatever. Then they try and keep your deposit. you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa This place sayin't all that now.'s talk about the fucking thirty five things we looked looked the other way from. like you know, like air conditioning Oh it was so hot. L the fact that Donald didn't have a room and started calling himself Benson Anyway That six seven eight stories. Aout show we made aboutbout a bunch of dogs and nurses in a Canndar who li a As he the stories. That' all should know! So g around hear our Gather around hear ourusty watch show act I know I love you. Your beard's looking nice by the way, it's getting fuller'rown in, it's full. And there's no gray in that thing That's a lot of granite is just I want to see it Yeah If I grow a beard now it's too it's too gray. I don't like it. I feel you have a lot of gray Yeah it makes me a look too old, so I don't really do it anymore. Although I was seeing on the Inner webs, they have this this u die you can put in your beard Yeah, but then like if you put your face on a pillow, And the pillows white you got to die all on the co. Oh, I don't think it comes off. Really it comes off Hell yeah, man Oh, you've tried it No, I just think it comes off That's makeup though. I think the die more is more permanent Okay. Heather Locklear is this episode, Donald. Oh, are you going to sum it up for us Yeah, I am going sum it up for. Okay. middle This is a good episode, veryy funny. and Heather Locklier is the guest star. I think she does two episodes Yes. and She she gets the classic gorgeous woman entrance in sccrubs where she comes in the hallway and sllow motion with the fan and And and she looks marvelous. But let's first hear a summary Let me get my stopwatch ready. Okay, I'm going to be honest with you guys. this summary is really quick thenen you're going to be thirty seconds I guess. I'm going to definitely be thirty seconds this time around Okay, well, let's, you know, don't go becausecauseuse this episode has so many things in it, but it all boils down to one thing. Okay stop watch. Wait, but one second I don't want you get too cocky with your summaries. You have to really hit the stopwatch already And go Allright, see this episode, it all boils down to one when you really think about it This episode's all about taking chances and the positive things that can happen when you exit your comfort zone And it takes Elliot JD Carla and Dr. Cox, this whole episode to realize good things can happen you step out of your comort zone Very good. You know, I noticed you slowed down, so you were trying to make it fill the thirty seconds. R You know, you spoke at a very leisurely pace. You were like because this time this there's not because I' noting much feeling the only thing you wanted to say was this episode is about taking chances. So you were like, go This episode is about thing. I got very I got very Bill Shatner with it, huh This That was an episode about about One thing. You know, do you remember remember when Chner went on SNL and he was playing himself at a convention at a convention. John Lovittz is like, yes, I have a question. in episode three two, seven, what is the combination to the safe And he goes, lookook, I just have to say one thing after coming to all these conventions. I get all your letters in your Fan mail I I just have to say Get alive Because it was a show. We did it years ago. Grape remember that Grape? great episode. And I remember I wonder he must have gotten a lot of backlash from like the Dude. He is listen, I've met William Shatner quite a few times and he is a lovely man. He is very funny and does not take Star Trek fandom Serious like that, seriously like that. Like he's for real like on some played this role I love the fact that everybody loves it But that doesn't necessarily define who I am, you know what I'm saying? Really? So but so how are they I wonder how those mega fans are with him because a lot of people who are in mega fandom pieces of content understandably and rightfully so embrace the fan base and do whatever they want. And he embraces it completely embraces it he doesnt come to him. he doesn't roll his eyes about it or I don't know that he rolls his eyes about it. and I don't know how he is with his fans. But when you talk to him about it, yeah, he's well aware. I was in Star Trek and it was a very popular show. and I you know being said. You know He's's not a He's not a TJ Hooker with He the look the way. By the way, look at what good host we are. We're circling back to TJ Hooker with with Shatner And then have the lock there and have they lock there. What an odd name for a show, TJ Hooker But those of you who don't know it was not about a hooker. It was about a cop. a cop They bunch cops. They were partners, right? I never saw an episode. I think she was on it. I think she to this is how Dpe had a lock layer. She's had such a long career. Oh my go. backack in the day, I think she was on two hit shows at one time and I don't know if they were on the same network, but I know she was doing two shows at one time and both of them were hits And she was Ratings gold. Well she was on Dynasty, right? And she was on Melro's place obviously. What else And she was on TJ Hooker. I sa her. I don't know if I see. It just seemed like if you wanted a ratings bump And you needed some you needed to bring the ratings up You bring Heather Loocklear into the into the fold and she just works wonders on Well she she certainly is a very pretty human being. and I think's also very. Ver, very funny and talented man. It was was She was on Spin City. She was on Bill's show,pin city. It was also it's like the perfect storm of, you know talent. She's very beautiful Yeah She's very funny. D dynasty. So you know, she's coming on the program, right, Joell We have her scheduled for The next episode the next episode, we're having her on, Donald. How fancy is that I love this. I love. I mean I think I don't want to I don't want tona let the fans down. I mean, you never know what can happen in in in the fast pacace moving world of podcast booking guests. but u So far, so far we have her I'm very excited about it. She's she's I just wanted to say and she's she's had such an interesting life. We got we got to ask her. We got to we got to go deep with Heather Are you gonna to A are we going to go deep Are we going to go arere we going to go deep, deep deep undercover like Eddie Murphy and Berlely E Scap too No, I'm not trying to like ask her personal questions, but I mean she's just had some I didn't say ask her personal questions. Are we trying to go deep, deep? She want to mar She likes rockcer. She was married to Tommy Lee. She was married to Richie Sambora Oh, she she had a relationship with Jack Wagner. My sister, u May she rest in peace? manan, did she have a crush on Jack Wagner? You know who that is, Donald Yeah, he's a great golfer Wagna No, but he's he's an actor No, I know he's an actor, but he's also one of the best celebrity golfers. I think he also sings too. I think my sister used to love him so much. She used to listen to his music Okay, no, I've got her things up here. She's u Gsh, she's been on so many shows Her first job, it looks like was on chips as a teenager And u TJ Hooker. Dynasty Um A show called Going Places, Melrose Place, Spin City U She was on a show called LAX in two thousand four, two thousand five The Melrose Place reunion Jeez she works a lot. Well, her it's Heather Lockley, dude. Hey, she was in upptown girls Wow, I mean, just just to show the audience how well we're dovetailing all this together, Utown Girls is the movie Donald made when we were in New York when Amy Tan got mad at us. That's exactly This is this is turning out to be Wow. It's almost like you planned it all It does seem like it like fans right now, the people listening to this podcast right now are like, they're making this up, but we're not no This is all true. Yeah. it's as though Donald. So anyway, we're gonna to ask her about some of that. We gott to I mean,t I don't know we're gonna to ask her about everything. We're gonna ask her about Chatner. about Melrose's place. Did you ever watch Melrose's Pl? I mean I did not. Yeah, it wasn't really aimed at us, I don't think No. But, um Yeah, Andrew Shu went to my high school. He was a very good soccer. Nobody cares, Zach I'm just telling you, Andrew Shu and you know who his sister is Elizabeth Sho Both went to Columbia H School in Maplewood, New Jerse Now let me get this straight Elizabhs shoe addures in babysitting Elizabeth sho She and my wife kind of look alike Yeah, they have the similar hair And similar chnds too. You know who else went to my high school? No. Lauren Hill Lauren Hill We were all strumming my pain with his finger Sing in my life with H word God killing me softly with his song killing me softly It song. tellelling my whole life His words. killing me softly. I love her miseducation of Lauren Hill so much. With his song Oh, bp bump down down That's that's you wouldn't know that, but that's Tbe Call uest right there. No Bam Bam. But that was a Fujis alum. That song was off the Fuji's album and but her solo album, I loved so much Yeah, that record's one of the best records ever made I think I might agree with you. too this day U She was at my Barmitzva And you know, we play a game at Barmitza's, well, at least the kids used to called Coke and Pepsi. and it's like a dance floor game like You're on one side and your partner's on the other and your're cooke and your partner's Pepsi. And if they go Coke, all the kids run over and they sit on your knee and they go Pepsi. And it's kind of like a musical chairs thing. The last person there is kicked off, kicked off, kicked off until there's only two left standing Lauren Hill was my coo and Pepsi partner at my Barmitzva And u That's the extent of the anecdote Did you guys win I don't think we wanton no. Well, because I invited some jocs to my Barmment's fun. I think they got really serious about it and, you know, they were you know Lauren and I were were like the two actors, you know, joking around. We weren't like really trying to win Coke and Pepsi. Got it. canan you tell me what song you walked out to for your Bar Mitza and how you and the high stepping that you did So what happened was I entered my Barmitzvas. So what they said, Oh my God, this is so embarrassing. I love it though. It's so embarrassing, but you know what? no one's listening. It's just us. It's just the four of So the theme was musical theater. Hell yes So you know, for those of you don't know, back in the day I don't know if kids do this g anymore, but back in the day your Barmitzva had to have like a theme. and often kids would choose their sport because that's what, you know, my theme is soccer and like the centerpieces would be soccer balls and the cake would look like a soccer ball. and it was just, you know, that kind of thing And so my theme is musical theater. and U the the company that planned the party hired actors to dress up as famous characters from the from different musicals. like one guy was dressed as like a cat from cats One gal was dressed as someone in Sunday in the park with George with like a parasol. someomeone was dressed as like Lame Miz, you know Someone on a barricade kind of thing And and then so as I so as I walked into the room These people were standing as centerpieces in the middle of the tables frozen as robots And as I walked into the room, the band struck up Let's hear it for the boy. And then the centerpieces all started moving at like like like robotic figures to the rhythm of Let's hear it for the boy And you h stepped into the and you h stepped into your Bachmitzvah Yes, let's hear it for the m and the crowd went wild And I can And all the different robotic people moved like robots to let's he it for the boy. Maybe he's no Romeo But he's my love in one man show. Wh who. Let's hear it for the boy. And I remember that my friend friend I remember that my friend friend don'p boom. My friend Roger, Heller, he noticed that the guy playing one of the cats from music Cats was distracted doing his robot dance to let's hear for the boy. And so he took his spoon and he he tied the guy's tail A round a bunch A bunchil a bunch silverware So when the poor guy when the number was over and the guy was like taking his bow and got down off the table, he was clanking soere that Roger had tied to his tail. 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It's a story about a forensic anthropologist who secretly writes mystery novels, an actress who adapts his book into a film, and what happens when a meme and a mediatur collide with a slow burn romance It's performed by Simul Lu and Philippa Sue and it is an absolute blast When you actually hear the performance, You realize that other people are taking your words and what you thought was kind of a straightforward sentence like the cat in the corner is black In my head, it's the cat in the corner is black, not the dog, not the derbil. But someone else might say it, The cat in the corner is black That's always fascinating to me at how they just bring in all these different nuances and really make it fun and interesting and distinctive Listen to earsay the Audible and IHart Audioobook Club on the IHart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts No is that Let's get into to the episode. All right, Heather Loocklear comes in I don't know if you know this Dald or if our listeners know this, but I find that not everyone knows this. This is a real thing that the pharmacy absolutely. They send out they're often beautiful women, I assume handsome men as well, but more often than not they're beautiful women And their job is to convince doctors to prescribe their drugs. And they'll they'll they still do tons of shady stuff. I think some of it's been attempted to be curbbs because it was out of control. I knew girls in my high school that would do this right out of high school like their first job or right out of college, their first job was going to do this and you got and if you're ever in a doctor's office and you see someone come in and they're all kind of dolled up and they're pulling a a little rollie bag. that's often a pharmaceutical rep. and you'll be frustrated when you see them go in the office before you and you're like, o, I've been waiting here. And now I have to wait for her to go schmooze the doctor. And they always have that's why the doctor always has all this swag that we joke about in the episode and t shirts, but that's the least of it They keep track of how much the doctor is prescribing the drug And if you prescribe it a certain amount, they're like can win vacations and trips And they take them to lunch and they buy them expensive, just like this dinner that's in this episode andll they schmooze the nurses too. They like, o, I brought sushi. I brought cupcakes. And it's all this it's like payola. It's like this super shady aspect of of the pharmaceutical world, notot that there needs to be more shady aspects, but It's it's something that really, really happens and it's really really fucked up, I think, because but they're basically like incentivizing the doctors to prescribe Trump O recommendend it. Yeah. Right Well, in this episode, this drug that she's pushing actually works very well. The only problem that Cx has with that is that they've marked it up so high. It's sort of like Epipinens. Ri pens work great. Everybody, if you have allergies to anything and you can and you go into anaphylactic shock Because of your allergies or because of said allergies E the pin can help save your life. The problem with Epi pens are they're so expensive And even the generic brand is so expensive very hard to come by Yeah, I mean, of course, and the marking up of drugs is a whole other thing. You That's why people drive across the border to go to Canada where they don't mark the drugs up like that and I mean, they have like literally have bus trips where they'll where a bunch of seniors will get on a bus and go to Canada to buy their drugs for a more affordable price and then come back to this country. But Let's not goommend a giant tangent like that because we can make a whole podcast about how fucked up that shit is But anyway, this episode is about a pharmaceutical rep coming to bribe everyone with pens and swag and free steak all sexiness and sexiness. And of course sexiness, which is something that is a part of it. I mean I imagine in my brain some of this has been curbed, but back in the day it was all about like flirting. I mean all the girls that I knew that did this 're attractive women and they would say, yeah, part of it is like, you know Gentle flirting to get the doctors to prescribe their drugs. And then they would have this girl once showed me. She's like, you don't believe the data we have on these on these doctors. what they're prescribing, how many times they prescribed our drug when they didn't prescribe our drug? And u and they get it they do all this sort of shady stuff like They put them certain doctors on retainer. Oh, you're a consultant with our pharmaceutical company, which is basically just fucking shady payola to make sure they're prescribing it When it's not a when it's not an addictive drug, it's like, okay, that's one little of shady. Now cut to it when it's an opioid and they're fucking prescribing oxycotton and making everyone addicts. I highly recommend this book called Dopick if you want to read about this, it's about how the pharmaceutical industry, particularly Purdue pharma got into basically turning in so many people into opioid addicts because of the over prescription of Oxyconton. And I just finished this book and it's amazing. And I think Michael Keaton is going to make it into a A mini series But don't wait for that. Read the book. doop s The episode starts off with people getting hurt kids gotten hurt, got hurt and you watched him get hurt on video. Yes. I gott to be honest with you I watch a lot of crazy shit because I enjoy watching people get hurt. but then it turns It turns, you know, sometimes like sometimes it's like Wow, that was funny. he fell and hurt himself. He busted his ass But then things that you can see on the internet on like Instagram now, some of these things, you're like, I don't want to watch that You know what I mean This is harmless. him crushing his nuts on a rail It' hless to. do you wince when you watch someone get their nuts hurt? I feel a pain in in my genitals whenever I see anyone get hurt. It's like a it's a quick pain. I don't know if women understand this. and not to say that it doesn't hurt when they hurt their groins, But men have a physical reaction when you see someone hurt their nuts where you you kind I kind of grab mine if I'm alone and I'm allowed to and just make sure that they're okay No, I I this happens to me if I see anyone get hurt ever dude, ever. if anyone ever I'm talking particularly a testical moment like this Yeah this episode. he he lands on on a railing, he's skateboarding and he lands on the railing on his nuts. It depends on how much depends on how unsuspected it is, you know what I mean? Like we knew watching this that the kids going to crush his nuts. So I didn't necessarily flinch as hard as if I were watching something and out of nowhere, somebody gets pummeled in the in in the balls That's when I'm like, oh my Godd And and I flinch and I feel that sharp pain in my test is from it. Yeah Yeah, Iut I clutched my balls when I saw this kid fall over and over and over again I thought that she was hilarious Now when she walks in and does her slow motion sexy walk in, you cut to a fantasy and it's me and Deone Gordon, who's Dond Standon, who's often in the background U is next to me and he's wearing pookah shells. Did you know that? I did do you remember when Dante used to wear pookachhells? No, but that's hilarious. I mean, I haven't seen someone wear pookach shells since I was a child, and I didn't really notice that Deante was walking around the scrub set that wearing pookkach shells. This was also twenty years ago, Bud But still, pooky shells were not in in two thousand two I'm sure they were because no they were not around his neck. No, I think then it's like a choker too. It's not likesoking him damn. It's like you know like the women had this style have a few years ago where they werere all wearing the tight chokers around their neck. Yeah, what was the purpose of that? Can we? okers look awesome? There's no no When do they look awesome? All the time in Victorian times when they were hitting in the eighties and the nineties, now Chokers I don't know. It just looks weird to have a black ribbon around your neck Are you waiting your husband to fall off? take come off. Well, they're gone again, Joell, right? The fad was strong for a couple of years now. I feel like it's gone again Y the punk princesses are they're coold and on strong. love them. Rock on ir Yeah, not seeing it on like Vogue anymore or anything like that though. No. And I would say poookachlls. Yes, early two thousands because the OC was around and those boy head Oh, Mbe Deante was inspired by the OC. Dante is from California Done went to school in OC type of high school type situation. Yeah, man. So he wanted to be then he went to I think Deone went to like, you see Santa Barbara or something like that. onene of the party schools, you see One of those you see y school. Well, all we know is it's a very funny sight watching Done wearing a puachell choker. Yeah, hilarious. And then the corpse sitting up Because of how hot heather life here is. it is funny. and sheub she rubs his head through the body bag And then I give a little like that's a gift I see a lot is that moment where where she like blows a kiss and I do a little I do a little like kiss to her. Is that is that a is that a Yeah, I'm gonna to send you that kiss A after we get off the podcast. Right on. It's a funny one But yeah, so Deante in Puccalls, his face is really funny too. Yeahah. if you guys are watching this, go to Go around two hundred six and you'll see this moment. It's really, really funny. Th some talk Carla is very into a threesome if it's with Heather Locklear Right. But she's kind of talking smack because she doesn't know that you're going to go and try and She says she's like, o, you know, yeah, if it's with someone like her, I'll do it. And then she doesn't know that you're like, you you go try and you got to try and chat Heather up Right. The new title sequence is back and I saw on Wiki Scrubs Wiki that it's the last time it's ever seen So for those of you who love it and liked it, this is the last episode it's ever seen and then it's retired. forever There's another change to the title at some point where it just goes Superman I'm no Superman. Yeah. Eventually what happens every every season they kept cutting the amount of showback put in more advertiser time And so then it became like, well, we don't have time for all of this whole title sequence. So then it was just like, I'm no Superman And that was it Yeah. Actually, another thing I read on Scrubs Wiki, interestingly was that this episode when it first aired was a supersized one. so it was ten minutes longer. Remember that NBC at the time was doing some supersized episodes? Right So they still do that. Well, there's ten minutes of the show that aren't on the one I watchatch that that were on when it aired. So God knows what those ten minutes were Al there's a show missing Yeah well, I watched it on iTunes, you watched on Hulu? Yeah. Well, it was if it was, I think it was twenty four minutes or something, but But there's a thirty four minute version of this episode somewhere I wonder if that's on the DVD's or not P that, I don't know U I like when I try and hit on her at three hundred thirty three. I'm like becausecause I'm Julie, I go were you named after a Jewel E He's so bad at hitting on women this guy Yeah what he's a, you know, he's a A nerd. He's Yeahah, he's he's he's this is the It's so charming though. you know what for a nerd, he does get some pretty amazing women. Yeah. he's so charming. He's charming. He's a charming. He's charming and he's a doctor. and He is goofy Um I'd like to double her andandra. Yeah But again, in the spirit of flirting, she's like, come grab a pen And they're like all right above her breast. Yeah. You know, it's all about like, you know, one by one. she's worked, she works Kelso. she works Dr. Cox She's working, she works you with the steak that you eat. makes you sick Ws Yeah, o man Have you ever Turf and turf night We go stake night. We used to go stake night all the time. to really We used to legitimately go stake night, but now I'm a pescatarian. We could stake nightight This is where steak night kind of started. This is where we learned Turk loves steak. Yes, you really love steak. Turf and turf. Turf and turf. You know until this episode I had no idea what surf and turfamment that's when you have a lobster with you or does it any fish or just lobster? I believe it's any any fish, anything in the sea And then does that mean it could be any food that eats grass Good question. I assumed it was always a steak. You know, I grew up kosher. so I never had lobster and stuff like that, shellfish until I was like fourourteen, fifteen years old. Do you want to tell them that story whichich one After your Bar Mitzvah Oh, my Bar Mitzvah Bot Mitzvah for a girl. Barmitz, your Bar Mitzvah? Well, my father made us kosher when we were kids and after my Barmitzvah, after I successfully became a man in the eyes of the Jewish faith My dad, I said to my father like Well, if I'm a man, I I really don't want to be kosher anymore, and I'd like to make that decision for myself And he was kind of his mind was kind of blown like I Jedi mind tricked him. And he was like And I was like I couldn't believe it worked And then from that moment on, I was no longer kosher But what he said outside of the house because like I'm to say There was no way you were bringing like a lobster home from the supermarket like me. No, no, no no. If I just sit down the table and start eating like a bacon double cheeseburger no. You guys eat your food. I'm gonna No, no, no, no. but his rule was, u oututside of the house, you can eat whatever you want. Also my parents had gotten divorced and my mom was now you know, living with my stepfather and they weren't kosher. So it was a confusing time for us as kids. like Come on guys, you guys got to get on a unified front here. likeike what the hell are we allowed to eat? you know? And And so that's kind of part of it too. You know, so we never we never had any kind of shellfish or any pork or any dairy mixed with meat And then it was such a bizarre rule. Like if you let's say you had meet for dinner, you would have to wait an hour so you could have ice cream part of being the kosher rules Is there Is there a specific reason on why that Well, back in the day, it was it was theory about health and eating things that wouldn't make you sick you know back in like Biblical times but now it's just tradition. So you know I always was like sitting there being like, Oh my God, how long's it been? forty five minutes? Do you think God do you think God is gonna be pissed if I have the ice cream like fifteen early? But you know, it's just like Did you say shit like that when you were a kid to your parents? No, I mean, are you kidding me? I was afraid of my dad. I wasn't saying anything like that. But I mean, in my mind, I was thinking like, this is crazy, even as a kids, like this is crazy. God does not care about this That's how I felt. That's how I felt done R so good Um So let's go back to I'd like to double her andntandra Yeah the Todd Yeah. I'd like to double her onntandra That might be I still use that chit to this day. It's a double entendre ouble herandre. It's not as good as are you gonna turn everything into sexual innuendo? In your endo? In your endo Um ye, that Todd is pretty funny this episode, although it's a little creepy that he's planning to hide out and watch you have sex with Judy. No, he was in the break room. He was in the room sleeping already He wasn't hiding out. he was already in there Oh, I was under the impression that he was he was like he was like u he he figured out that you guys were going to have sex and so he was like hanging out in the top bunk. No, no, no, no. he he went into that he went in there to be Todd and do whatever the to. That's a good ask Rob question. How come how come the todd is always in the break room when something something's about to bre When something something's about to jump off. The Todd does take a lot of naps, I have to say. He does, right There there's an episode where Todd says sometimes when I'm banging this mattress, I'm thinking about banging that one The one underneath. So we know that Todd likes to hump the mattresses in the break room U So I think we should ask Rob, why is Todd always in the break room alone Well, between all the surgical enhancements and rejuvenations, the tod needs a little catnap cut down on recovery time between operating sessions I've been told I'm a bit of a sleepumper though Sometimes when I'm banging the top mattress Thin about banging the bottom. Thank you. Thank you Rob. Thank you Rob. And just to give Rob a plug, if you guys want, you can hire him on cameo Go on that that app and you can you can you can hire Rob to say anything Pretty much Yeah Yeah within reason Right. And you can send your friends a Rob video of him saying funny stuff These are great ideas for birthday presence if you have friends that are Die hard sccrubs fan and fans and love the Todd. Here's a way for you to get the Todd to deliver some sort of five and a funny anecdote so And you know, I haven't really been on the cameo too much, but I like the idea of hiring people I like to say funny things Donald and I are not on there, but we want you to put all of your scrubs love in to rob getet Robb to say funny things. I think I might hire Rob to send you a message, Donald Okay, Yeah sure. Yeah. I mean it it was going to be. Maybe with you I should hire a basketball player because they have a lot of sports athletes on there and and I could get you one. If you could get anyone to send me a message, I would love a message from Tracy Morgan I't know if he's I bet he's on aem.'s got aill dollars now espeally It' a settle I'm Brian if you could get Tracy Morgan to hit me up as Brian Fellows, you did it once in your life You had Tracy Morgan, you went to. Oh, that's right. I did. because you know I'm a huge Tracy Morgan fan, right? you know how much I love Brian Phil. I'm Brian Fells. Right And it was just after I think one of the best Tracy Morgan Saturday Night lies is when Britney Spears hosted That made no sense, but it was full funny But he's so funny on that episode Anyway, Rob Mashio's on cameo guys. We're going to break, let me arve, huh Hey, it's Bobby Bones from the Bobby Bones showh I don't know about your house, but something's always streaming at my house. It could be a show. I could be watching Arkansas sports, a Zoom call or just sending massive files. That's why having fast, reliable internet really matters. and it's why you need optimum famously fast fiber internet It has the fastest and most reliable internet speeds and it doesn't slow down when everyone's online, which let's be honest is pretty much all the time. Right now they have a tough deal to beat, just twenty five bucks a month for five years Don't wait, call eight eight eight for optimum or go to optimum dot com or stop by your local optimum store today. 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We're chilling, you know You're making it happen like everybody else tryingilling Killing like a villain, Donald, don't you say that Chill like I don't ever say chilling like a villain, you fucking. Devin, do you see how I'm addressed Do you see how'm how I'm talked to? Well, you made the dumbest remark and said, do you say chilling like a villain, Donald Look just chilling like a villain. Devin, do you follow sports and basketball in particular at all I do, yes And who's your favorite team I'm a Dallas Mavericks f I'll see you're lucky man. You've won a ring You guys sto ping us from us. Are you calling out you are you coming from Dallas right now? Are you hitting us up from Dallas right now? I'm not actually. I'm one of those weird Dallas Mavericks fans. I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I'm Virginia now I became a Dallas Mavericks fan because I lost a bet in junior high school and so I had to take German as my foreign language. And I ended up sticking with it and I majored in it in college, but My dad wasn't a big basketball fan he was a big spall guy. And so I kind of have free rein to pick my team. and I always loved picking, you know, underdogs in them. the maps kind have had prettyrety good squads leading up to that championship team, but nothing fully came together. Um, up until twenty eleven. And so I, you know, picked Dirk and Mark Cuban seems like a pretty cool guy H likes Mark a lot of what he's doing. I like Mark Huban Yeah. I don't know anything about sports, but I like Mark Cuban Davin, do you have a question for us about anything? It could nothing about scrubs, It could be about anything. Yeah, absolutely I you know prepared a couple. I'm lucky enough to know John Putch, who directed a couple episodes, I think starting at the tail end of season five. Yeah, great guy. He grew up in the same town I did and frequented the restaurant my mom owned he actually filmed one of his movies partially in that restaurant and I got to be an extress, so I got to meet him through that Um, and I know you both have talked a lot about what different directors brought, especially in the early couple of episodes epodes. So for someone like John, you know where E of season five, you guys, I think had already done one hundred twenty ish episodes, give or take Um, what was it like, you know, coming in as a new director? how and you know, Zach, you kind of you got to direct your own couple of episodes For a show that kind of had its voice, it had its style. how did you balance that with your own personal style That's a good question. someone like that is in a tough place because they're coming into a machine five seasons in that's so well oiled. You know, we really all we crank them out. You know, by the time you come to five seasons, everybody knows what they're doing. everyverybody knows their characters And a director that's coming in brand new, they just got to make sure they that they go with the flow. that you still want a director like John would still want to come in and add his own spin and add his own flare and come up with cool shots and have suggestions. But you don't want him coming in and trying to change the style at all and going in and doing something out of the norm But someone like him would really have to know the show. Really I've watched a lot of episodes A lot of times what they'll do is come and hang out on the set and watch somebody else direct So they just kind of not only gives you a chance to meet everyone and kind of shoot the shit a bit, but also you get the sense of like everyveryone's vibe likeike, oo, I see that Johnny C doesn't like to do more than that many takes. I'm gonna just make a mental note of that. O, I see that Donald never knows his lines. Okay, good. let me memorize that. So you kind of kind of come to the set and get the feel of everything. So then when you when you when you're all of a sudden, because like I said before, it's such a bizarre job to be like, Hey everyone, nice to meet you. I know you guys been working together for five years. I'm the boss this week You know, it's such a weird a weird way to create stuff, but it is kind of how it works Uh a little trivia for you. Do you know who John Putch's mother is John Putch's mother is Jean Stapleton who was Edith Bunker on the classic show All in the Family what a dayse. And you know who you are I can't hit that note. Men were men and girls are. Oh no. Men were men Harbert Hoover again Did none of my b Ebody pulled his way G our old Laalle worked great.s ry I'm sorry. Sorry for your ears. She was a fantastic actress. and John Putch's mother, a little bit of trivia for you. I'll say this when John came in, it felt like he was already he he really blended in very well with us. Yeah. And I think that's why he came back for so. He was also very fast. That was another thing he was. He was he totally like he got the show and he got us also Yeah. Zach, have you have you guys ever together other than We text sometimes and we shoot the shit. He listens to the podcast. so hi Jon than you for listening. Joh U and we'll have him on. I told him. we'll have him on when when the time comes. I would love to have him if we really keep this thing going for five years. He's directed so much television as well. We had Michael Spiller on who's directed quite a bit of television. John Putch is another person who is You know, Yeahah was who is a well seasoned director I don't know what you's directing now. I'll look it up. Well, nobody's directing anything right now. Well, I'm saying pre quarantizal He was doing some I think it was American housewife, I believe. Oh, great. Yeahah, Dietrich Bader. thatad guy. You have another question for us? Yeah, absolutely. I think sccrubs means a lot to me because it was one of the first times I saw a show reflect a part of me that isn't just very outward facing. I grew up and I had epilepsy and there's an episode where Dr. Cox treats a patient who has epilepsy and I believe the conceit is she doesn't want to take her medicine or isn't taking her medicine because she struggles with letting the epilepsy define her and prevent her from being a normal teenage girl. And I was younger than her when I was dealing a lot with it But it was the first time I really remember seeing a part of myself on a TV show and feeling like, wow, that's you know very core to my identity Um, So for both of you, when was the first time, you know, either of you sp saw yourself reflected in that way if Question, you go first, Darl You You mean in television shows when we were growing up or is that what you mean Yeah, I mean, it could be growing up. It could have, you know, been a while and it could be more present day, whatever. Well I I looked at it, I looked Okay, so I look at it a little bit different. I didn't see myself a of in a lot of television growing up mainly because there weren't a lot of African American people on television So seeing somebody who was like me was very hard to come by. You know, people said I looked like Todd Bridges when I was a kid, but I had nothing in common really with what Willis and Arnold went through in different strokes It wasn't until a different world came out and I was in I was, I guess it was my Freshman year in high school And Dwayne Wayne Duwanne Wayne came on television, played by Kadem Hardison And he was the one that had the flip up glasses and he was so in love with Denise from the Cosby show. Lisa Bonnet, he was so in love with that character. And I felt like That's who I I'm that guy. That's He had a bunch of energy. He was really charismatic. and girls looked at him not necessarily as the hot guy They looked at him as The friend And I was drawn to Duwaynee Wayne so much so that I bought the glasses. You did. You were the flip up guys? I would wear the flip up. Now remember, I went to the professional children' school. So there's me and maybe three other black kids and the four the black kids in the school. or in my in the upper school at the time, in the high school at the time And so are you all wearing them? No I would wear the glasses and I'm sure these guys were like this Motherfucker came up in here with the fucking Dwayne Wayne It's a funnier story if they're all if all four of you're walking around weing them. Yeah, anyway. so Dwayne Wayne, Kadem Hardison, when he showed up He had such an impact on my life because I felt like I was looking at myself that he was at one point, he was one of my favorite actors in the world. So if he was in a movie like White Men can't jump vampire in Brooklyn U school days The list goes on. He was in quite a few things when I was younger. I would gravitate towards his character as the best characters in those projects U I was really drawn to Anthony Michael Hall. I was just thinking, you know, everything he played when he was young was how I felt. I felt like the sort of nerdy kid who You know, who could make people laugh and was, you know, I made friends by being a class clown You know And And so a lot of the parts, whether it was you know, weird science or sixteen candles or breakfast club. I really related to him in those movies. I really wanted to be Ferris Bueller more than anything. Like when I saw Ferris Bueller dayay off, I was like, Man, I wish I was that cool. Like I wanted to be ferris And John Kusack in in sayay anythingthing. I want to be him. All of those movies are big parts of my are big parts of my youth. You say anything Freaking sixteen candles Weird science. You know, the list goes on. All those John Hughes movies were huge for me. So the only problem I had with them was that There were no black people in it Right. You know what I mean thoseose movies like, you know A lot of the music that a lot of the songs, I didn't even know all of the words to the songs, but I knew You know when Lloyd did you should was was the song that he did Stop Wait a minute I knew you Yeah, Is that what that is? You should let me No, no, that's a little that's Mario These just st these just ain't words that I'm spinning I knew that he sampled Uh, pa, I know les M be true right now. M is true and he goes p pa Ba B She's fun B I want to and I' and Nobody knew what that shit was from, but because of my love of all of these John Hughes movies and stuff, I knew where they sampleice you It's called you. It's from two thousand six. Yeah I remember that. Another one Hey, it's Bobby Bones from the Bobby Bonees Show. I don't know about your house, but something's always streaming at my house. It could be a show. I could be watching Arkansas sports, a Zoom call or just sending massive files. 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That's not true. What's the one you did with Michael Weston? and We've spoken about this. The last kiss, youk that one? No, there's another one that you two did together way before you were ever gettingting to know you Who was the other who was the O Merazzo? Yes, she was in that. I've seen that movie Uh, he also
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