Reflecting on Privilege and Conclusion

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Check responsse is set upp required compatibility and availability varies eighteen pllus history we're joined by Beny and Andrew from the Weaw That podcast for an audiovisual race war. I was waiting, I was wondering where is theint introg going to be? We were the first you've had? Sorry. the first youve had First what? The flax. yes Yesly.es. Re? Dinitely Yeah. This is history. This is hory history Don't make you the last.? Let's have a good t experiment. it worked. 'ause you could have just had one, but you've gone to to the gate, and you've never had any. That's risky. O shipse Hey, excuse me. Now this is s the topic We're coming at part two of the White slave story. a recap. Well, the word slave comes from Slav. They were theav the first slaves Eastern Europeans, which kind of makes sense given how good they are build building building stuff. And we traced the sl white slaves were conestrated and then sold to Muslim empires as eunuchs so that they wouldn't fuck their wives. It's like London today go Yeah, wow. There wass a lot of suilarity of London today.. Y lease We're saying it's the long road to Uz, which is S a Dicort or Masa as well as we call them as we call him today. Yeah, so Sharia law forbid castrating other people, but you could buy a castrated person. And then you get sold into Mansamusa, the Marlian Empire. about're in Nigeria My family is' Niger.'s the He isn't the richest person that's ever lived. Yeah. who lived on a gold mine and controlled all the salt. Yeah. Money, and it was black It's just Blackos. He's like Amazon jungle Jungle But today we ended with the start of the Barbberary pirates, the sort of North Africans. and this is very is very serious now we're going to talk about. So no jokes about this. very There's some things that aren't fun. No Some things are off topic you know people going through this history, it's bringing back a lot um You've got a lot of arms for it, to be honest. Yes, you do. so where did the blacks go wrong If I'm saying bumbled. Yeah we hold the back! We had it And we' were alled to do cultural appropriation and claim that they the slave masters. Whereas we had it first We were always stealing our shit Wigers It's out of it. Wow. Okay. Already th. W WN now.. So how we get back to that? No Yeah How did we put on it? I was looking at the tink with Czech Republic Prague doing kidnapping their wites We fumbled Fumbled. Now we have to go on these guys pods. Now we here? He Let me get a patreon Patreon. Excuse me. This is a confrontation with our oppressors. Y Yes. This is a racial question time. I go finished releasing a book why I'm no longer talking to R. I' talk to. I' talking to black Why do you read that book? They don't listen. What I bring up slavery. Yeah. Now that book Wh I don't talk to white people about race, I've only seen white people read it. Yeah under the tube. White people just looking guilty. And they'd be reading it yeah, then they look up make eye contact with me on the tube. I making you feel good. You you know what? Read it, man. Look yeah read. I saw a woman get that book out of her bag when they left Victoria on the way to Brixton on the tube. And you're like, cut! Be reading that from high. I was reading the notes before ye, reading the research. B Yeah Before you get to Briickon, it's a lot bet. see, I bet where whites do that, you know, When the blacks come out, they pick they bring the book out, man. Yeah until they feel safe. Now we're robbing you still Anyway, yes, you will be escorted out the studio when we're done. The Barbary pirates, the North African pirates, they peak between fifteen thirty and seventeen eighty, We're talking about Algerians, Tunisians, and Moroccans. This is very hard to say. Nearly one point two five million white Europeans are enslaved over these years. Wow. Dvastating numbers. mean These are numbers that you trust as well. I completely believe these numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you inlate them? It's one the greatest number doubs of all B the Northern Africans, yeah. Yes. the Sander Sand bllacks, yeah Sand Back the words right out of my mouth. Sand Back. Manis man. The dusty blacksmith. Yeah. Now the states, they basically M and I sorry? Mar M M. Mar is a slave. got ki M kii birg is fact you goting bardies. This is a slaveving bardy Yeah Which is kind of humiliating. Yeah. Yeah. To be a slper by Riadmara. But you look at Jamie Vardy and you're like, well, yeah I mean yeah he droins eight Red Bulls before a game. Yes. no.'s avel could slave as well. He would.. He'd be running in the fields in it in theind Qite on. G buddy Big up by. So this this pically becomes like a protection racket, right? The North African states they they interfere with shipping in the Mediterranean And they steal white Europeans and they make them Gallish slaves on ships. slave. They make them row. They whip them Which is rare because when we were talking the first episode, most white slaves, they had their knobs chopped off and bec addministrative slav A acccount that came in as bureaucrats, which is very funny. fromom the beginning, White Seser was like, you're not in the fields. you're doing my taxes. m So you might have been ruining for time. Yeah. That went was's it Henry Rereta? Oh eighteen. I guess so. Henry Retta. Yeah, I guess that's sort of a Yeah, I suppose it's a slave ritual in a way, isn't it It comes out of Steve Red Blues's music. it's coming Cbridge it the Cbridge Steve Hm in when did did Yeah. I guess Steve Redraves's like our Colin Kaennick, you know it He stands for so much more than just the sc. So now the raids were viewed as Gihad, legitimate. 'use these are Muslim slave owners. Right. So they basically start you got they do these raids on the island Island Italy and Spain. right, whichich we were saying is probably the three most workshop population. I mean' try to get them to do any any works. be asking for c work. Yeah work work. were asking foremating lunches, they'd be falling asleep on play pasto. It's a nightmare But they then get to we have a word on the Irish. I do want to say maybe the biggest fumble of white privilege Yes of all time the Irish getet away get like C canan you put footage of cricket catches being dropped easy cricket catchers That is The Irish with the white privilegeed. they they're super white. They're not even any whitees. as As white as it gets. How do you fumble that list? E ended up on a list with us, man. Yeah How are you like crazy? That's crazy You the dogs no Irish I work in the Caribbean. they're working cotton farms in Pations. Yeah. Yeah. I if I was how the fuckking if I fumbled this? I'ning doing that but getting sunburnnt. Like you're not evenning into sunm. And that's why Jamaican sound like that is because there's some cork isn't it? It's true. It's true. that' tr that with accent. 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He found us to be homophobic which is true gazeman. Yeah. not only. All right, Are you Jewish? huh No, I just like putting these up. He's just rich. if that's anismetical just a rich guy who runs a media organization J Jewish? I was looking at him and the way he came up with that the saafari t the bit, I was like, the gu' not Jewy.y's a bit jewy J? No, J but also completely unrelated, you are not being paid for this We didn't know that mom. Yeah, but so the Irish are kidnapped by the Barbury pirates and this raid, a terrifying raid on village in West Cork. There's a there's a creater. Yeah. they're like basically, it's like Tyson Fury of the of gypsyies in the Western Court like that. And they get there's a Dutch captain Beeen forced to convert to Islam called Murat Race. right Rice and he's from Harlem All these different. is different. Oh, that's crazy. They've been taking the names. Tottersl No No you took the Blacks took the names. Americans took the names. Yeah, ye. But the Black America wait is that the Black America take the names let's just have a quick, a quick reminder. So English people started America and then they they they saw what the Arbbs were doing went, all these guys would make quite good slaves better than the fucking Spanish So they then transported loads of African slaves and then they end up moving into areas like Harlem and Baltimore. And they originally So the Africans named, no, the whites named Baltimore and Harlem. just the black people end up living there. I mean they become known as bllack places. but they were named after Dutch and Irish villages. But the Dutch Harlem at basketball. There's a north New York. I mean's York, you know, it's all based off Oh New York is Oh New you This is that just right now? A serious? you're lying Wow, are you serious? New York. Crazy hicle first is history. Thank you. We learn it. we learn it. You was called New Amsterdam until seventeen eighty. andt much.ust too much. New Asteram. That's what it was called New Asterdam the thing in Baltimore And the wire There There was a whole series where they sectioned off a place and said, you can do drugs legally here. And they called that place New Amsterdam. Right. Yeah shit shit. Mind blown. Yeah. N York. I mean Charlie is absolutely laughing about that. The thickest person in this podcast' just been outfanked. Yeah, that's pretty good. So this Dutch raid, right on the rather this Barbary raid, okay, there's a Dutch guy who's been convered to Islam and the rat race, Rice B he guess He goes along the south coast and then there's a guy I'tember what his name is Jack something basically gets kidnapped. and He's like, o, no, go down there. there's loads of them. they're undefended So he's basically a race triter. He's snitched Chock ice, if you will, but he's white on the inside's ice ch He's a white chalk ice Right. White on the outside, black on it wasn't? No' white everywhere. White chocolate then ye. yeah. White chocolate? Yeah. White chocolate ice. Yeah Yeah. White on the outside and white on the inside. Y. E. Anyway Ein Yeah chocolate bus. he sells out the whites and they go down the coast, the pirates and they kidnap likeike one hundred and seven Irish people from a village takeake them back to North Africa sell them in the slave market to go and work in fucking Like what are they they get paraded through North African streets as booty, right? They're sold at public auctions in markets which are known as Badistan ounds like sounds like I saw Britain first. This was very Badistan. Lrondon' called Badistan. Yeah yeah ye. The buyers would scrutinize the Christian captives, strip them naked, they'd use trunchons, they were forced to walk, jump, contrort their body to determine how healthy they were.. Fucking look at their teeth and chips.. Al they they do physical activity to see How healthy they work? Yeah you do make. It's like doing a medical before joining a club, but that's you there. Yeah. That's hard She's I jon as by of it. Heyo really enjoying this you are facts are making happ This is very traumatizing for us and I' glad someones.omeone has to tell the story. tell the story. And we brought you on for a conversation, a cross cultural conversation to try and get to a point where we can talk to black people about race. It is not now not now not now yet. Yeah longer book. I'm not p about Rin Taylor said you want reparations would be nice? Reparations nice. What would you? Can you put those reparations into an index fund? Yeah there. That's the problem. Yeah. The problem is you ask reparations. you're asking for money straight No're The problem We need You los that int ten years. We need a fonse compound interest Inest the reparations. You need white slaves to do your taxax. The probleblem is it's rarappers asking for reparations and the money will just go. It' got. Rachines. Rs Tax. 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Burnnt the whole thing down Black Wall Street the KKK is like white reparations track It's aggressive white paners like okay we go the White Panthers. o. the bears pol The White polar bears. the bears is really funny. The polar bears take on the back paners versus the black panthers And you know what? Doesn't that just perfectly articulate the difference in aesthetics Panthers or bllack bret. Solute. White guys dca and the dress call themsel Gnd wizard Dungees and jackes. You fucking ns It's gay. It is white supremacy is gay is gay Grand wizard. It's not genuinely genuly. We need black people to keep us Yeah if you don leave us alone, we'll do a lot of gation. Imagine the blacks keep us in line really. Imagine the blacks design the KKK outfits. the real Wh They should have hired some blacks to make the outffits' like the fuck white whes doing the wicked holes in the cloaks I believe Kanye is doing some quite good merers.'sK to do the KKK merch. Charlie, you want to go and grock and make an AI image of black guy wearing A Nike KK outfit that looks cold as fuck. justust see what comes on. Grock can just do that or G. Grocks the racist one. Grock is on back on Musk. he'll do anything Yeah. he'll do that. you ask it to rank racist, he'll go, yeah, sure. Wh is it Yeah But yeah, no bllack man involves in the making of this suit tone though. It looks ye ye It bit obvious, obvious But if a black emb you would be burred, it would be like a ractic on your past. I have a bit more jazz to it, lets Yeah. So let's talk about and this is a harrowing part of the episode, the slave experience for whites. o? Well listen, that's not arch music. That's not So that's actually the music because I will try What do you for know to sing? yeah Cplay radio head Radio head green Donnyash wake me up. I hurt myself Monf and time obviously as well. Now the Galley slaves, this is considered a death sentence. Men are chained to rowing benches of pirate ships, they're rowing in the fucking Mediterranean, they're like whipped and shit. I mean, you know, there's just no way you guys can relate to sure what this was to be many crazy. Many die d many die from exhaustion disease. They put have someone put to work quarrying stone co timber and also meager rations crracker That's where the cracker. Oh, is that where the comes from? Really? Yeah, it's called what's the When you said a cracker comes from as in the biscuit or the the slur. It comes from the fact that the whiteesur you were given the the C word. So don't say it with a hard arc. The C word fine. It's all right.ific Horatio my crackers. I can say My crackers. Yeah. Horatio is my cracker Yeahoy man. Charie Charlie, why is Honky and Peckwood on the screen? You're not a c Ch you're not very setetting slurs. Wh White trash, reed neck. isn't Red neck. I thought cracker was because we cracked the wit. That's why's. I feel like you changing this I think this is That was sneaky. Yeah What's cracker What's cracker me mean? That was sneaky. I decided was sneaky It was very Jewish ofiew that was sneaky J. The Jewish guys is catching strange. It's a white whites versus black p Look at that, look at that. look at that our co. We are now looking at a video of a black designed KKK outfit and there's maybe a hundred Nike ticks on it be Wh I would wear that. Why does person he would be so unsuccessful to in capturing the wets. Yeah, it was justn't becausecause he wouldn't get that dirty. You I'm just saying if he turns up to a meeting and he's trying to blend in And he's got one hundred Nike ticks. He hasn't done his research. Yeah. what is the history of Kracker? sorry, can we get that I'd hate to spre spread misinformation on this podcast. The oldest recorded use cracker is a loud talker crack. But why is it used against white? So whip cracker and corn crracker. so it's both. But what is it really cracker for white people originate centurally American slavery. I guess. So it's basically against Irish people because it's what they Yeah, right. So but also but does add bit bitches to. Yeah, like that So they' ging multacial They're giving these tiny little biscuits to where, you know, it's where I'm deciding the word cracker comes from. This is before American African American slavery So they're putting they have to build So all these like Algeria and Morocco,' they're not countries together, they're just these massive cities. and so they're all built on the back of white slave lab, you know So you go to you know, you go to what's the capit of Morocco? now What's's fucking not ra that is it? Marraquesh, you go Marraquesh tough What Because it's se seeing in a When you go back, you feel your ancestors pain. Yeah now I've found out now I've done a Wikipedia scroll now I do Yeah. now I did before. I book flights this morning. Nice. Yeah. So how do you what do you do you like obviously like with black people when we pass it down to our kids intertergenerational this def is generation how is your kid finding it was saying because she will not go to Harringay. I understand. We're talking the first episode about how some white slaves they'd have their dicks chopped off so they weren't sexually threatening to the Harerem And theyget that. you guys ever sexually threatening? Well, excuse me. Sometimes we can be sexually threatening. gotot it in a locker Threating out. Russell Bran. Yeah. Yeah, that was my guy ye my cracker That my crracker Bran The white the White Cosby. The White Cosby Yeah sadly sadly the White Cosby is Svel I mean, we do you cannot compete can't compete If you can't compe yourself. Sorry, if the metric if the metric is paedophilia, this is a one horse race, your're play under the water. Yeah. We ain't got I disagree ain't got many You're in a bit of time when you're like A Kelly. Memy, there's vbe there. Come out me drink. C at me, bro. Name a bllack Peter fall Kelly, Kelly. Yeah. name another one But there is this difference between ours and yours Great music Y Sel Jackson. I did S doing Nel Jackson No, and when Yeah, but he did his worst stuff when he bec we came to our side. he did he did he did. I mean I mean morally and musically. Alth the Jackson was not his best wife. I got White Jackson was all like saved the world, saved the world He was trying fit in with the whes. What do you guys do for fun? Oh, okay Yeah That makes sense. Yeahah I think your costume. O Kelly's like it might not have the numbers of several But I just feel like he he got the freak off. He got Diddy, which I guess not P thing about Ar Keller, he was confessing for he was hiding in plain sight it was you got a deep it. his first he wrote an album for Alah who he was shagging and married Yeah. And when she was six fifteen. Yes. And the album, he named the album AJ notot in but a number And if you look at, you've seen the album got.'s great documentary, Charlie. Get a photos side by so, get them the respect they deserve. good. He called himself the P pied Pipe as a nickname That's amazing. Poto side by side Look at that. L atb Look at him in the background of an album called AJ number. S will they competing with that. That's crazy. It's a great album. And he wrw it. Side by side, please, R Kelly and Jimmy Savill. Who's hiding in plain sight more? That's want you know Sir James Sa. Sir James Sale. You got a knighthood for being for his service to be I didnt run. You didnt run that Yeah was a sir That's to see it Now who is not Thats it That's tops it. Thank you was a serbute. Thank you. address him as a knight. Yeah. Now butone Kenny pissed on someone I said it was his brother. That's amazing. R Kenny did the most hilarious interview ever also because bllack people dress better than white people, but I also want to say you look better in clothes. It's not necessarily that the outfits are better. For example, I think you look great in your tracksuits But Jimmy S try to dress like you You look like a pedo f. Just saying it's not all' because the Ben just It's because you're wearing, that's like you wearing a tr Sal track is like me wearing a Native American headdress. rightight? You're appropriating. Yeah, you're making fun of p Pedo culture.s Pedo culture. Yeahah, that's what I did That's my whole think. you' just what meant to wasar on stage. Yeah. Andrew, someome of these legit look exactly like the child as you were And I'd be going for those colors as well. Yeah. Yeah. wow. I'd be going for the same white color because you go outide the tummy bro. Do doesnn't go as hard. just doesn't go as hard as me though. He doesn't pull it off. No, you can't. So we got we've got to carry we've got to carry on I want to get because I want to get to the US. right? So safe apologize this is this is serious sererious. Slaves were under constant pressure to convert to Islam, right? And if they convert to Islam, they werere basically freed White slaves, yeah. Yeah, white slaves. right. A lot of parallels with today. If they were if they they are. I mean, sorry I'm talking about the history. I''s about's tal about modern day, London diplomats would all would come to try and ransom This is this is the one difference with Africa Well, it's a couple of differences one of the differences is that you could ransom, you could buy White slaves freed Right In that a foreign could come and like buy them their freedom and like they hostages. their dad could come and pick them up. Yeah It's like when college kids get off rape charges because their dad owns a the oil company. Yeah. And they're good at swimming. Yeah, brilliant. But if a slave converts to Islam, then those organizations no longer come and ransom them. So they kind of never go home Oh D So it's locking you in. It's locking you in. in Yeah exactly. We're not trying to save you. We're to explain if a slave converts to Islam the one can come and ransom them Because the Christians are the on who' Christian com back to save Christians, but if you all come to Islam, they're not going to save you. The white Islamic community is not going to save you. There's not enough of them Evenough don't think Charlie looks like a white Muslim. Yeah, Charlie man. Yeah, that sort of ginger If Charie if Charlie shaved his head, wow. Yeah, Ginger Jhad. He doess. Yeah. Is there any famous white Muslims? Yeah, there's one, there's one famous white Jihadi Joh?ado J Jhadado Connor is Muslim in. Yeah She's. Stevens Yes Stvens. a white musician it's a Caucasian spiritual artist, you understand. Istand. Yeah.site it's all white gospel stuff, Gospel. So what kind of white music do you like, by? do you listen to white music? Yeah. I disclosure. Disclosure. Okay that's pretty white. That's electronical electronicalB Oh my.'s l Yeah who's gonna l don' you know? What's the whitest shit that you listen to, do you think I would say Bill Callanghan, he's. I mean the blackest shit you listen to is late Cone West. Sory, I know we're going off a bit That's one of the best jokes I've heard this guy wrote how it's in my It's in my tour show. So so that's a good plug for the tour. Yeah. watch him on tour. It's unbelievable. haven't seen it? No I wantan to wait because' This guy does the whole thing and he just skirts her He says it with hard arm. But it's the N word is heavily present in this whole bit and he don't say it. It's a genius. You didn't really say that You't have it. Without context, how clever is this guy? honestlyly implied. I put it on my story. I never p that He doesn't say the N word in front of. I text you when you put that out, I literally text him. I said, bro, this What's that meme of the black guy doing that? That's me saying the Nberg rather than yeah, Rosive No that joke Ton But wasnt get the whitest music that you like? I like disclos Eclos Callaan, Adele's an aesthetic thing Who else? Yeah? There must be something And now she's lost it a little bit. You don't like her anymore. M. that twenty one a day. was P twenty one. twenty one twenty one if ag. Yeah the ruid de. Johnny Cash When she was a Jony Cash P Johny Cash. Yes. E say P comm. Pg A Pg. P that? Yeah. Oh was The original Poggs were selded to the Caliphan. exactly. Yeah, the original fatite goes. Now, we need to get to this is where I think the story becomes funniest, right? So there's about two hundred years where the Barbarary pirates are, you know, kidnapping people, They're interfering with American ships, right this is ear. 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So Jefferson is famously like a complex figure in he's one of the founding fathers. He writes the Declaration of Iependence. Yes. He had I think six hundred slaves. But he was against it So I fe, which is fe. Yeah. I don't even mean bad things I'm against. I'm against eating meat I might gu Bita. I That's what I mean. But it's wrong. It's wrong though.s wrong in me is mor. You can't defend it. We nan. far in's completely mor in av literally a delivery driver with nanos on his back coming And he has to. And he has to. has to' el that's model they quite slavery. Yes deelivered again I'm against that. Where is it?? Is in near? Hurry up Yeah. Where the ro. I again getst that but quicker, please. I'll be more against it if you've got here jacks. And don't forget the dips. But we were saying this earlier is that like, yeah, you know, there's loads of stuff nowadays that as soon as people stopped doing it, you're like, oh yeah, that was terrible But I'm not stopping. No you stop it first, then I'll do. Yeah, exactly. hundred If it became illegal I'll stop. Yeah. If they banned me, I wouldn't fight it. I'd be like, yeah, you should' have done that I'd fight it. I should be putting flags of meat or picked up in the screen. I'd feel like fuck this Ppper pick praising the flag. First doz and now you bann this. Now you bann this. Absolutely. live a cidiqu', London So Thomas Jefferson comes to power in A eight is eighteen hundred, I think? Anyway. Yeah, he owns six hundred slaves, but he's also against against it. Which is yeah, I mean, it's like fair It's more like if you're going to be a slave, you should be a slave under my roof You you know what I mean? It's like saying that? If you're going to do drugs, you want to do drugs at home? I don't know if he's saying that. That's what I you against it I'd rather you be drinking. we know he was against it though? Because he said he says this will be a moral stain on the country.. But right now it's pretty six hundred. I can't just If you have six hundred, you've got a plantation to run. It's like way against me, but my freezer's full of lamp Yeah, I can't just throw it out and throw it out. It's worse to throw out than to eat it. Yes, you got eat and you got to let them live under your roof. Yeah. So. But also we were saying this that slavery stops when it becomes economically possible to automate the labor of machines, right? It's similar to AI is never a im moral I wonder if there will be a conversation where like white, white data cent data analysts are now talking about AI the way that freed bllack people were talking about st. free data analysts. Basically, we're freeing data analysts from the servicees Now AI has taken their job.ck is is it Cauded Cla's a one. Clae taking their jobs. like Roba Hoovers are taking cleaner' jobs It's true, basasically. R. So There's a similar thing where the Industrial Revolution happens and sort and then then the civil War in America happens because it becomes an economic thing rather than it's a moral thing. Robert E as well. But yeah, right. So before America ended African American slavery U they what sixty years before, they fight a war, their first war It history. America always my lie. You went into detail with all the white slaves, but the way you glossed over the Africa slavave just that Andrew, this is the topic is white slavery I feel the conversation we heard enough about black slavery White slavery could mean both ways. We could mean the owner be owned. We covered this. It's not white slave owners. I'm saying the way you skipped it was it was a very re Andrew. African American slavery Andrew. I searched didntscify white slavery yesterday. The only thing came up W was of this podcast? All right. So we need talking about it. I feel there are enough there's enough cultural conversation forre talkking about it. We need to Where's the twelve years of slave for whites? Yeah. Telve years data analyst. where's that fil? Telve years of data. Wh's making it And then he got promoted. You been. I' been in it though. Yeah. Oh ye,'re fruder. it I'd be in that fil What what I don't know it What would I do? Would I be owning slaves H if like I feel like I've been The ally I ofokeack guy black guy trying to get him out. Yeah He' run let's run.'.d you'd be like the equivalent of woke. Yeahleep. You'd be asleep. Yeahoke. Be there was a white guy that did that famously who freed blacks. He used to shoot that man up. They made a film about him. Ean Ork played him. Yeahohn Have you not heard of this guy? No. There was a white guy that used to shoe slavehers back in the day fucking sick. like Jjango on Jo. Yeah, yeah, yeah but it was a whack guy. Yeah ye yeah, yeah, yeah, ye my God horse he's got a mixture with his daughter. The goodood Lord's bird. Is that it? Isn't true John Brown John Brown. John Brown. Johnown J Fiy reolition. John Brown He's w black. Yeah Brown. He was He was on job. He was black He was on it. realal ally. Yeah he was killing whites He was not reading the book while that He was killing whites John Bown. That's that's I'll be on I'll on the b. You you be on that you'd be killing on bus of Oklahoma with the blacks sitting in the cafe getting beaten up Yeah, you fucking crackle lovers. Yeah What are you a cracklever So right So Jefferson basically decides to start America's first foreign war. This is the long road to all about it rest Army of Vietnam. He sends his gunboats to the Mediterranean to take on the scourge of the white slave owners, right? sixty years before So slavery is he's got citerers to slaves And he sees white slaves goes, Well, that's absolutely aberration. You've got to start a war over that. This is the first Barbarary war of eighteen oh one. We haven't played. we should place this. What we do in the pods is that we place a year with something that happened before, something that happened afterwards, just because our listenens are very thick. Right. So do you want to give it a go? eighteen o one. You you know anything happened before that How do you think eighteen oh one. anythingything that happened before Jesesus. Jes to Jesus, veryery good and it's before anything It's before Arsenal won in the league Aral win in the league. Look at that. Jesus pererfect. So Jesus has been gone two rang It's a big r big range It's a big It's a year zeros because now I think we reset the clock now Arsenal won the league. Yes zero again But you mean the most recent time arsenal won the league. because you could place it in the fifties and they won the league C of. Why would you? Why would you would Why would you? So that's the first Barbieward. It's about it last four years Jefferson says, if we mean to be a respectable nation, we must protect our commerce not by begging, but by strength. He sends gun this is the first, I think it's the first US Marines, the first thing they do Go and stop white slavery. Um, they The conflict goes on for about four years. Now this is operation Brits aren' protect them. Be because they've recently been kicked out of America. So American Brits don't go on So American Navy isn't that good. Yeah. So they're getting pumeled a bit by the by the Arabs. There's the USS Philadelphia is this ship that gets captured by the Arabs. and then there's a special operations simimilar to the Venezuelan operation. similar It's a special operation where a guy calledve Stephen Deckater, he sneaks onto the captured ship at night Disguised as an Arab, right? Wh he says which is raised now Wh I think you should basically just a f of the capaptain. Yeah, but he said yeah, but he said there ass a wipe, I' the captain now. am theain I am the capaptain now actuallyually I'm the captain So I'm the captain. I think you'll find it on the captain' the capaptain now. Yeah. ye So he sneaks on and then tortures it, sets fire to it so it can't be used and then sneaks off again. Yeah. Wow. Pretty sick. That is s. But yeah it's interesting So its Libya, right? So says reverse Gaddafi. This is reverse Gadafi. Yes. Tri Tripoli. So this and then Gaddaf Reagan sent warships to number one terrorist in the world. In nineteen eighty. So this is one hundred is long was that old? nineteen eighty. Gaddafi. Gaddafi. Yeah, he's been around his reign was fifty forty years time seventies fifty years at that far. That's longevity Yeah man. Multiple primes as well. Bad primes. A lot of these African leaders they go bad primes Afican y. You definitely like David Baower, he reinvented himself. He had pan Arab He had an Arab face, his was Africa. Have you seen the Mugabe School of Quotes video? No. Oh man, fucking top. This is I also say there's a there's a this is radio hosts U fuck me. I You know, it's like I get this when I watch your clips, I get so jealous of having an entirely black audience 'cause just the energy is so fucking Yeah, when do you tell me to do it? I'd love to do it. Raracious. Yeah. Do I get paid for it? Yeah, yeah. You' no No crackers. No they're paid enough for this so balance. Okay, fine. So have to work to be set free.ine. This is very fun. If you are ugly, you are ugly Stop talking about inner beauty. Men do not walk around with X rays to see your inner beauty. Who is that from Mugabe? That' so good. Men don't walk around with X rays to see your inner beauty. Brilliant. African dictators are basically They speak like stand upps. Yeah. That's why they're so fun' funniest man. That's why Tump is ant Trump is an African dictator It's just fun's not he has a new. power. so it's not his fun. I I mean, it couldn't do much damage. Trump' pretty Terr dator actual power. It funny Idiot being got rid of all the Asia'and gota be Yeah Iediately this threat. Yeah and was with the fucking they Mf. JarlnyXX. She's a f Zandan Yeah So the first Barbarary war ultimately ends with a treaty, eighteen oh five But the US did have to pay the states like sixty thousand dollars in like reparations or something. Oh, but there's also a fucking invasion. they they this is the first American troops Middle Eastern. What is it called the March this is America in the Middle East, basically. This is the start start of it March D eighteen eighteenh five eighteen oh five. Special forces go through the desert and then they go to is it the city called Derna, which is maybe is Morocco But I live somewhere in one of these states. and they pincer them. It's in Libya and they have gunboats firing on the port and then the Marines come in aroundound the back. I said, yeah, it's the first time you had boots on the ground. And the country's twenty years old. So it's like it's always been the world's policement. Y. But the first instance of it being a world policeman is to stop white slavery. I find that absolutely hous So then so then there there's is like peace, but then it all kicks off because the Napoleonic wasars, I don't know how across that you guys are. I watched the Napoleon film. Yeah. Oh yeah. Terrible. it. Wh and White cram is not that interesting. No That's what it is. Right you need Back people in it. need Yeah you need find out peoplee to be victims or perpetrators. Yeah, R I' afraid to be interested. That's why' it's like whatever, mate. Yeah For you. It's just one It's fish fiction, isn't it? Yes 'Ccause those people don't exist. Yeah Yeah,. They got ADHD. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, so they remade mooonlight for a white audience and they called it I swear, I think. Anyway. Later First I was said firstirst I' been said in the pod. Yeah. Edward. Well you' hope so. Yeah, you'd hope so. Wouldn't you hope so? You're the first black d. F you hope't know Al Murri was dropping. the.oin the patron. Join the patron.. behind that paywall is it is behind it behind the paywall, man. We bit that. We've had a couple of close shaves with the binop So the Napoleonic wars kick offff, which means that England and France are going at each other, right gay shit, who cares? Yeah, it is gooday. y it is gay. It gay stuff. Yeah. Like we're all wearing like the fucking got plume in your hat. Yeah like it' very light. Of course there is. Yeah Th then the US and Britain start a war in eighteen twelve and then the Britain at this point has got an amazing navy and US got fuck all So they find that when the war kicks off, the Americans can no longer patrol the Mediterranean and the Brits we go to the North Africans Why don't you fucking start taking white slaves again and attacking American ships? R? Because we're pinting them downly. I don't know we. So we I say see we Yeah. I when I say we in this context, I don't know which side I should be Wh is we? was Britain supporting white sl. But we too That us man. It's us too We got to say I saw Tommy Robinson out of here, man. True. Yeah. million we million White March is actually fifty thousandars I think it's forty thousand actually. forty thousand. Yeah. Yeah, but you guys so you guys So you guys were basically like, Oh America, okay, you told them to take the white slaves just to get back to America. Sneaky. Yeah.. Very sneaky. So at this point, I think we might be trying are we trying to end slavery in Africa in eighteen twelve or is it a bit later So I think we're trying the we see So is this a period where we're When do we try and end black sover? That's eighteen forties, right? wear of the quQuakers? I don't know. but we're sort of using the conversation is obviously around at this point. Yeah. There's a lot of people are like, this is immoral, this is awful.. And there' some people who are sort of trying to weaponize it. I fuck it's eighteen oh seven Do you think so obviously now, England abolished slavery in eighteen oh in eighteen thirty four, but the first actcts eighteen oh seven. So this. Overly liberal people now are incredibly annoying And they always think that whatever they're saying is they're like fighting the slavery fight. Yes. Do you think back in the day The abolitionists were was annoying. As the liiberals now. Yeah. I find that very funny that they were because it was actually shut up Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. That's how it would have been. No you should actually if you're going to have slave, you need to treat them well fuck on. It's a free country. not not for you but For me it is. you're only saying that, you don't have a slave. Yeah. Yeah. It's the politics of envy. It is. That's the Confederacy, m Confederacy's varant flags So u for your Free thewise, free the West, honest. I'' say freeed to menden, but free them men. Yeah. Re themen. So by this point, yeah, the Brits basically weaponize it and they're like, Hey, why don't you start needeing what st stealing slaves again They then start And then Second Barbberary War Yeahes, so the Brits and Americans stopp that war And then the Barbberary pirates are caught with their trousers down because they're like. So get a picture of Peter Manderson? Yes, this is it's more Hugh Edwards, I think. Okay, right Hgh Edwards Yeah. It's Hugh Edwards with his bum. Have you seen this pict? I mean this is pretty gay shit I don' this com this is now getting Yeah, see, you getting. This is how many like white peds there are. We forgot this brother. They just got like, you know how the prem, you got the top six in it. Big six. Big six, but they got table. every game. Table players that win F cups Hugh Edwards. sorry, you're talking about This is Brentford, like the for like the. 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You know when someone's was what he did You know when someone's like not watch Breaking bad and you're like, o Oh my Godd, you get to watch all of it the first time. Yeah. You don't know who Ian Watkins is D. Oh, he's they He didn't get killed in jail Yeah. I know him now. I know him. get killed. Ohit yeah I you remveered what he did. You know when I was a baby. I Yeah Yeah C iss not doing that Look at this dem Come at me. Cospy's not doing Cosp' not about you like should we do Bey C we don't docauseuse' do that. Yeah. He did his job first. Yeah. Peterhy is a white sport. Peter Fily is a white sport. That is Now you lot our win, do. Thank you. Thank you. I don't want to take that away from you. That's what I want to get from this conversation. Yeah. okay. Honestly, you can have it. You can have it. But as long as you give us back we slave like we the OG slave owners. We don't have it. We want that back Well, look, let's just finish the story. So the second but when the Britain American W in eighteen twelve ends Barbariess caght the pants down, like you ever was, because suddenly America have got this very like trained navy they've got nothing to do And so they then point their guns and the Barbaries go, right we're actually going to stop this properly. And then the Brits get involved with the Dutch and the French, I think. And so this whole like, it's like it's fucking Iraq. It's a coalition of the West. Yeah comoming to the Iraq. Yeah to stop it. So they sail aggressively It's been happening It's been happening for years. Yeah, so they they sail along the North Afran coast with warships This is gunboat diplomacy. so they basically they capture ships and then they say they go up to these ports and say, we're going to fucking ruin you. We're going to level your city unless you released all the white slaves that you've got I think when they get to is it Tripoli or Algiers they They released like three thousand white slaves Umm D shall overc Read last, read last. And then And then there's one city Algiers in Algeria that does not comply And then is it the Brits just send a massive gunboat and they fire fifty thousand cannonboets into. Al just dra the Confederac. they basball and just bang they flatten it and then There's a treaty signed in eighteen fifteen which basically is the death of barbarary states as economic entities. So their entire economy is destroyed. Yeah. So yees, so they had a good rundle. They had a good one. Two, three hundred years. That put in Europeans people always talk about the Romans and that. I never heard of these guys, right? That's a good aboutad quard aliers. So they release American captives, they pay to compensate, they end the tribute demands U obviously the American newspapers declare everyone a national hero U yeah, this is quite interesting Decoter, the guy who leads the Second Barbie War, says ourur country, in her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right? but our country right or wrong. So basically that's laying that's American foreign policy and then on end, we're always right, wherever we go. De go to another place named Atlanta. place called there's a place called Eot in Atlanta. Is Rcast. Probably is no door to him. M So yeah, then so. The European powers after the end of the Poleonic Wars They then reach a consensus, so they go to Algiia and they level it in eighteen sixtyteen. That's when that happens And they abolish Christian enslavement. But white slavery still carries on until the French Algerian warar in eighteen thirty, I think they actually fully end it And that's kind of the end of white slavery. Finally the of white slavery. But it carries on in the East in the Ottoman Empire. Yes Egy. And to be fair, I mean, there's sex slavery now basically is human trafficking. It's called human trafficking now, but it isen. Wh think taken white slaves than that? So by eighteen thirty white slavery been defeated It would be another thirty five years until African slavery. Black slavery was stopped. W was it harmony then Hey No it's over til it'll stop not stop. Oh stoped. stopped. So it it's going on. Simultaneously. Yeah, got you. Oh yeah, did you know from the time? That's what I this whole time we're talking about this. I just keep thinking about the other side Yeah. Be this is a discussion of white slavery. The whole time, I'm looking at the timelines. I' but it'sirrelevant what's going on? Okay. What's funny is that the same people who were running Black slaves. We're fighting a war to stop white slavery white slavery. Yeah That's crazy. I didn't just white privile. That's wh. I mean to be fair, that is white. That's white privilege Right there suums up Yeah. You owning black slaves ending slavery somewhere else wh man I the feel over for real. Its so bad actually. Yeah. a lot of people complaining about it at the minute but I still think it's pretty good. I would say yeah, because I say And to me, when I hear whites complain like about losing your stuff, it's not as good as it was. But this is what I mean though? Well I said this to Andrew that have a time, yeah is basically that What white people do? It's like they like it's like the Bunes Liger. twentyw of the leagues You win sixteen But every now and again Lever Cuzing get one Yeah ye Dorman get won and then they w What's the analogy? So who'sy You're buying in Munich. Right. The white men that are complaining that white men are losing everything. Are you saying in Munich? Are you saying that like maybe the kind of the woke era that was Lever Cuzing winning a league? Yeah ye, yeah ye. And then we're back to it Yeah Yeah. Y era. All it was is lever cuzing won and one league. you still won everything here L have won And all Bing fans were like pissed off the Leverruiser w like won nine out of ten. Exactly fans were in the street going, Oh, I's changed, woke So the thing is when I look at the Bye League I also often think ' becauseuse Arsenal only won a league. I city, doesnn't it get boring winning. But now I know being white, it doesn't get boring. doesn't. It doesn't. always feels good. It always good That's what it is That it always go people never gets borore. can comediers say the same jokes for twenty years. years. Every now and then you need to lose to remember how good it is to win. So you're saying that the kind of the The Blacklives matter all of that period It's made us feel sweet. It gave me a good perspective O to get m in how good white privilege? Yes Yes. Youve got to put in contact. I're going to say thank you so much Thank you so much J for reminding me what I have. Yes Yes, I think that's what I took for Med anyway. That's was thes what was meant to be taken. I think that's what meant. Thank you. That's what we're tryina communing. Well, this has been an enthralling conversation. It really. It alsos cultural. Check out your pod We saw follow your Instagram, fucking awesome. do you do shows every month, every week It used to be one a month Top secret. Yeah three a month. last Monday, and Tuesday, Wednesday. I will say, if you're watching this and you buy tickets, you will stand out Yeah we get whites though. wh the divice. The whites areing whking the clips. Yeah know, the whites don't show up. The clips are black and black viol.'s now, we' got a few, but fuck me, it's funny.y me, it'sin of whites to we be talking. Cool whites. Cool whites. Clean train of whites. Clean train,, train whitees one got mixed girl.'ve got mided raed girls Yeah. N never go wes with one. What whites we bring? Pink Sfari suit wes. be sort of like Starars T t shirt. One of my friends is a white. Nico shot Nico, O of my wites, he loves you guys, man. Yeah entire. Oh, of course he would, yeah. We're big in white culture,ck bigard white Nicoyt? Is or is there anything Is it cup with anything? but Nico? Yeah. Mexican. ye's Mexican I don't know how he found off. He's Mexican. Well check out. we saw that on all the platforms. You guys wantt pluging anything shows Not enough really Yeah we saw all the shows are sold out until We don't really it' We're happy'reugging it but we don't really need your support No don'tow. Y white sleeves. Wow. Wellre quite. 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