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But first, let's get to the prefix your weekly pop culture roundup Christopher, listeners as we bid adieu to these last days of spring and yes, it is still technically spring . It doesn't make any sense, you know, when you realize it really does the fact that june twenty first is the start of summer right, isn't that what it is? Something summer equinox like it's next week. They should be in there. Yeah . But it's a wonderful time to be alive. It's a wonderful time to be in New York, home of the championship Nicks , which as you've seen on the television, has truly taken over the city. It's been a wild . It's been a wild and really fun week to be in New York. The amount of Nicks fans that have come out of the woodwork that I didn't even know existed, you know ? Oh, you're one of the people no, I'm saying people that like have never watched basketball before and doesn't know how to don't know even I'm one of them. I'm one of them. I'm definitely one of them. My team, I'm like, okay . Oh, my team is a bit much, but loving New York I'll go with, but I will pretend to know anything about basketball . But it's intoxicating to be here 'cause every it's just everyone's in such a good mood. And for people who love those sort of things , meaning sports, particularly children , it's like watching a core memory happen for those people was truly just like a touching moment and for adults for, the elderly who thought they would die never having a Knicks championship . One also yeah. And it's also like you ride for your team and they're just terrible for your whole life and then finally they're not. You know what I mean? That's like yeah the good energy here is great, but it makes it worse that I have to deliver some terrible news at the top of our broadcast today. And that is that the JoJo Sewalk Cruise is sold out, Chris, I sor'rym to tell you and our Christmas. Comment gonna get tickets now. There are no stomachs available. Hi guys, there's no room left on my boat. But I promise you, I'm still not a dike. Okay, have a good time on the trip. Enjoy yourself. The fact that you have fully leaned into her being Cartman is incredibly I don't know that they're I've never seen Cartman and Joe Josiah in the same room together so until such a date, they are the same. When that came across my desk and I put it in the chat, I sent it to some other people too, and almost everyone responded, who's going on this cruise ? No, but really when you think about it, I mean like, good for her, one . Good for her, two . Like, yeah, who like who's clamoring to be on the JoJo Siwa Cruise? Who's the audience? Like the kids that loved her when she was a kid , they have to be smart enough now to understand like this is a weird sort of celebrity . And also like she's not like popping the songs out. You know what I mean? Like she had like a couple songs or she did that the dance, you know what I mean? Our favorite thing. But other than that, like what like she's not like bringing out the hits . I don't I can't sing a song that she I know the cheek. Do you remember when I invented gay pop and then decided I wasn't gay anymore? I'm carrying on Anne Hish's legacy. Okay . I'm love it. I'll love it. Yes, I'll dare you. Dominic . What? Anne Heish would be a great person to talk to with Darren Wow. Oh fuck, hold on writing that down skill No, that's Dominic. I'm like, I'm shuttering. Like, I'm shuttering. I love that when it comes to speaking to the deceased, we have more than one person in our rollercoaster to consult. I'm putting Anne H ish bold all capitals exclamation points. I have many questions fuck . You know what my first question to Ann Hash is gonna be? Joe Jose was a dike, right? Anne. You can tell us let us on above. Yeah. What's happening on the other side with Joe Joe? Like what's the temperature of JoJo Siwa? Are all the are all the heaven lesbians laughing at Joe Joe Siwa's non lesbian lesbian cruise. Wait, is that who's going on this cruise? Can you imagine if the closet in Lesbians bought no out lesbians? Like what if it was they just turned the JoJo Siwa cruise into like an old fashioned rosy or a little lesbian cruise. Why not? Yeah, sure. That's true. And PS on these cruises where these celebrities go, they like go they like get helicoptered in for like one thing where they show up and like wave high and then won' let goave. You know what I mean? Like my friend Lisa went on like a Taylor Swift cruise. Like this was truly like twenty years ago. It was like before she was like the biggest thing in the world. She was still very famous, but it was like before she was Madison Square Garden's favorite bride . Yes, yes. Like before, like, you know, they were talking about like Kanye taking the thing out of her hand and then Beyonce letting her teen this like teeny tail showed up at a port and was like hi and then was like bye and left. Like that's what happens. It's not like she was there like doing the belly flop contest with all the like fact people that are like did she even get did she get on the boat or did they just like meet her at an H and M in St. Thomas and then yeah she did get on the boat, but it was like again for like three hours and then she was like, I'm out of here. You know what I mean? Which like sure, but like all of a sudden you're going on the If you're going on the JoJosiwa cruise like let us know Diana. Yeah. I would love definitely and I'm not when I say boots on the ground, given that this is a lesbian cruise, I mean some pretty thick combat boots on the ground Doc Martin's on the ground, yeah. Yeah . Getting back to the Knicks. Obviously, the two most beloved New Yorkers this week are Jaylene Bronson and Marishka Hargate who I basically are a couple as far as I'm concerned at this point. Mariska, last week before they were champions, I got on the olicart and I was a little I admit I was like, I think Marishka's doing too much now . It's like she's directly under Mandan i as the mayor of this wife. I take back I forgot why I was in love with her and then she's the deputy . She's the deputy mayor. Yes, she not, though? Why not? Why not? Why not . If you want a good laugh, please look at Jennifer Lind Lopez's Instagram for reaction watching from her mansion in Los Angeles . Yes , yes. It was like and it was right. There was forty eight hours ago you were telling eighty percent of the people who live here that we weren't real New Yorkers. So I'm gonna say, yeah , you're a dick. We don't want to how dare you even respond to it after that? Don't even, don't even just don't. PS, I made it through ten minutes of office romance and I wanted to my building on fire so no one in it could watch it. It's exactly like I was mouthing the words along with it because you know if someone says I wrote this Romcom for Jennifer Lopez, guess what it's not? Tennessee Williams. That's what it's not. Truly I wrote this for you, meaning I know like you're capable of . So go try humping me on a desk in an office. That's yeah Was that getting you anywhere or no? I didn't even get to get to it . But I sent in the group chat I put on Instagram as well the very, provocative subway ad of her like dry hump. Yeah, with like in her like her took us like up in the like at attention in the second part of it. Yeah . And I'm never one of these. I am not a false equivalency queen at all . However , I did think to myself, if Brett Goldstein was on top of her on a desk in a movie called Office Romance, it wouldn't have got made and it certainly wouldn't have been hiding that way . Timothy Chalamet. There were watch parties all over New York. I guess in radio city in Madison Square Garden on two hundred twenty fifth Street in the Bronx. I was the only one who attended that one, but there was no f ucking way I was leaving my apartment when all that shit was going on. Timothy Shalomy was at the MSG one. They showered him with champagne as though he were one of the Knicks. And of course, he had to be an asshole and just say this is much better than the Oscars. Okay, well, we weren't going to give you one anyway and now you're definitely not. Two little tee. It reminds me of remember when the Super Bowl was here like here as in New York, which I'm not really yeah. But like I remember it being like w,ow, this is like a once in a lifetime thing that's gonna happen. And it was like, I remember there being so much stuff. And also the World Cup. PS, I'm seeing random pictures of like my block in Oboken, and it's like shut down because people are like watching the World Cup on like screens outside that they're just like putting in the intersections. Like it's crazy. That's how it was. I was down in the village not for the final game, but for the other knicks games and they had at least the whole West Village was closed off. Everything by Bam and Brooklyn was closed off. Like the streets were just filled with people and it'll probably be that way for World Cup for the next couple of weeks. Forty second street is closed today. Yes. I'm sure Avenue to tell because they're just leaving it open for shuttle buses to go back and forth to the stadium. And I'm getting alerts, you know, I'm traveling, performing in a couple of days and I'm getting notices from Amtrak because there are games all over the United St ates and they're like you're coming to Boston on this day, please be prepared to walk from the train station. You won't blah blah blah blah it's clits be popping lots of sports happening right now. I don't know how the hell I timed this perfectly to like be not in the city like during all of this. You know what I mean? In a sense of like truly by the skin of my teeth. Like, 'cause that's the thing. If I need to go anywhere, if I need to leave Hoboken, Jersey City area to like go into New Jersey farther like I can't I can't I would I would be stuck. Like I couldn't do it. I don't believe today that there I know I'm going to be wrong and people are going to DM me but I'm like ninety percent sure that if you're a regular New Jersey transit commuter , you don't there like you . They're like you're not only not with you. They have a special ticket. Just like they're simply denying you access to like your motives transportation. Just hilarious. But I mean, everyone seems to be in a good mood. And the other big story, since we talk about celebrities here, I mean, now you're talking about people who are suddenly basketball fans and suddenly Nick fans. Yeah, we're going to put Taylor Louis Swift in that fucking category. Yeah, of course we are. How dare the Nicks put her in the I'm not even going to go off about it too much. I don't want to have an aneurysm, but her being in the front row was stunty. I mean, I'm just assuming that she was scouting the venue for her upcoming are no L no literally. She's like, I'm the queen of this now. So like hi, you know what I mean? Even if she doesn't get married there, it's still like, she's now inextricably linked with Madison Square Garden, the most famous venue in the world. I just sent you a story right before. Did you see I put in the where there's like there's a apparently I mean I still am not convinced that it's true that she's getting married in MSG . I think TMZ's in on this with her to just throw everyone off the set. Yeah, I'm sure today TMZ's running with a story that there's a giant stage being constructed by a facility in Pennsylvania that they're going to ship here and that her and Defrazer arei going to get married on. That is so there's just no, I just don't believe it. I just don't. I'm sorry . I'm sort of I'm on the fifty yard line if I may use a sports reporter. I have to go. I have to leave everyone. Goodbye. This is my guess is not being hosted by a ghost. Goodbye. I don't I want to believe it, but it just seems so just even unnecessary. Even like it seems this is the thing. It seems like something Donald Trump would do nothing and loser , losery for her to do it a little bit or do it in one of your husband's stadiums, do it where his team plays. Like that's why do it here? We don't have enough shit going on this Taylor's No way, there's no way. Why is it? She's doing it in like a literal clitoral castle in Rhode Island. There's no way you're gonna like, right ? That would be my choice if I'm her, yeah. It just seems like such a waste of time, but it's also like I'm but for real and I'm not trying to be like precious, but like that's an extremely big concern if she's getting married at Madison Square Garden and like we're to assume that it's going to be a star studded like wedding. Like when she came to Margaret Quali and what's his name's wedding in the Jersey Shore, like the whole Jersey shore shut down. Like it was like the like amount of people flocking to like try to see her was like it like caused havoc. You wouldn't talk about Nick shutting down the frickin' whole city, like it would be that again. Yeah. Would it not? You will say that no, I think I know I'm being crazy, no no, no,, no, no, I have to agree crazy. Like I think it'll be gridlock in midtown when it's happening. But as far as like the actual venue, maybe that's why she did choose it because there is established security there. She'll have to hire over to tough mat, please stop. I don't know. Maybe that was maybe it's more of like she wants a vault. I don't know. She's not gonna fill it. I mean, she's not going to bring twenty five thousand people to the wedding. It's supposed to imagine it being that big and you're being like hello. You're being like I Taylor you yeah like I'm sorry I missed I'm sorry I missed the ceremony. I was on the other side of Madison. I was getting a chili cheese dog in like section three hundred twenty four like Well apparently she made up with Kyl ie Jenner. I didn't know they were feuding, but people were losing their minds online because they hugged the Knicks game. Kylie Jenner, of course, the second biggest Nick fan of the world behind Taylor Switzer. Yeah. One of the also too, they had the Hyme Girls, which I love them, but like, they were all in the front row with her. And I'm like, you guys are all from L. A. Like famously from LA, like what? Yeah , I know. I mean, Marishco was literally to answer the question that many people DM'd me about how is Marisha on Broadway and at the games? On the nights when she's had a show , she has not done autographs out back. She literally walks off the stage and into an SUV and heads over to Madison Square Gardens. So she did do her show the nights that she was at MSG, but she just tells it out of there. If you were hoping to get an autograph, you'll have to wait for Tracy Ellis Ross to take over the role forth . By the way , we'll be in Provincetown, Christopher and I in just a few weeks. So I will be performing the month of July at the Red Room in Provincetown. Christopher and I will be there together the week after july fourth. We have been very public about our P Town movie list, which we're going to do a special patreon episode about . We're going to be , I mean, if the weather's nice, we're going to get to two of these movies. I know that we're secretly hoping for two rainy days so we could stay in and watch some of these things. Thank you for all your suggestions. We are going to be doing a Patreon episode. We'll be documenting the trip as much as possible. But you know, if you've not been to Petown, you famously have heard us talk about the daily Tancee,a D which takes place at the boat slip. And they have unveiled three themed tea dances in Provincetown this year. This is Menace . This is Menace Worthy is what it is. It's menace behavior. And when I tell you that these new tees are fixing famous people coded, it's like they listened to the podcast and they said, I know what I'm gonna do. We're gonna do a tea dance that is a heated rivalry themed, which this is going to be happening a couple of times over the summer. Check your local listings . That's going to be that's a poll to poll situation if I've ever seen one. Oh, I mean, it's good'.re We going to see someone getting like ridden from behind. Like we're going to be seeing the proceeds being reenacted at the middle of your broad daylight and people will be fucking each other in the pool with actual hockey sticks and no one will stop them. And we will look at the owners of the boat slip say ing, this you asked for this. We asked for this. You know what I will be doing during that tea dance? I'm gonna get there early so I can get one of those poolside tables. You and I should get there very early so we can get a table like Stattler and Waldorf and make fun of everybody and we will call our private party seated seated by which is not participating in any sort of sports theme . Day dance no go next but no, that's not my thing. However , there is another tea dance that they're starting this summer called The Real Housewives Tea Dance . I wouldn't even know , I don't know where to begin with planning an outfit to this, but I've spoken with several group chats about if a group of us aren't going to dress as Teresa Judas's daughters , I'm not going. Like that's the only costume I want is that we're all identical. Dominable black dresses and long black wigs. I think that we need to just dress as ourselves during famous scenes that have played . I think we need to put on tickets on the tank down there. We should I think we should have very close that we wouldn't be like I wore this shirt when you know, when Luanne said you know be cool, don't be all uncooled. This is what I was wearing because I am real housewives. What if we put iPads around our necks, carry them around and just facetime with all the housewives that we are actually friends with and just blow everyone's head? Yeah. Like, I want to wear real life Kim Zolsik as a pendant because Kim locked pendant. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, she fucking loved that. I am going to I know Call You. Margaret Joseph, a friend in this spot, a former guest she would do it directly to be like, yes. They all do it. They'd all do it. And again, when I met Kim and literally saw her in the, I didn't even say, hi, my name is Chris. I did not I grabbed, I touched her, which is wrong. And I said Dominic Pupa, like the first words out of my mouth were Dominic Pupa when I tell you she lit up like a Christmas tree like, you know what I mean? You know what, Kim Zolsik is a Christmas tree. She arrives as one. I do love her. We got to get her . And again , when I saw her facially , we were in a different story. A great place. It's a different I was like say this with love. Yeah , I say this with love , like Luanne, who I don't believe has pro cedurally done the things that Kim has in the god now just better looking. I mean Kim's is quite striking in person in a way that we 're not on television. She's just not. No, but we went she're like say that she does yeah, but no, but we were like when she was on when she was like pretending to bang Chet Hanks. Oh god like those I went real life or whatever dyes on the brain as usual. I was a lesbian for two seconds. Yeah. Just like all of them were. Remember when all of them were. Remember when Danielle Stab showed up with that woman who was like singing that weird song. Remember that? Never forget. They know when she was like on the surreal life, I was like, I was a grut row, but then what in person , again, like, wow, I think we got back on the right track in the best way. Gorgeous. Yeah. It's and again, it's known for wearing wigs, but has a full head of beautiful hair. I know. I won't even say it 'cause I've said it so many times . It's so crazy being crazy. It's like me wearing her prosthetic penis. It's like for what? There's already so much there. Why add to it? But like , I'm like, what, seventeen years old, probably on the edge of my seat as if like she's gonna take that wig off and that she was in like had like an acid burn on her face. Do you know what I mean? Like I like she was in an accident with a lawn mower that like ruined her whole life and then for her to have the exact same hair underneath . It's crazy. Yeah. Well, as first of all, my hairs are standing up right now that you're like, I'm seventeen years old watching the scene and I'm the produced, facilitated and shot that scene . And I'm reacting , my future pod co host is sitting there as a clitoral shy minor watching this. And we're having the same reaction twenty years apart and two thousand miles away where she walks out of that bathroom and I'm literally like, I thought you were gonna take the wig off and she said I did. And I was like, I don't understand women at all. That's why I'm the person I am, apparently. You do you, let's roll. Yeah,ra czy mom ent. Speaking of wigs and insanity , we bring you our first real story of the day back again with a von Jones , Tyra Louise Banks. Dominic a is suing Netflix for defamation because of the America's next top model documentary . Baby . I don't want to say we didn't see this coming, but I was a little unsure like if she would just let it die with all the other shit people say about her, but she no we would be fine, we would be fine. She doesn't need to do this. She doesn't this is the thing. Tyra , Kamir, this didn't affect your reputation at all. No one thinks differently about you now than they did watching this. It was just it was what we all already knew, but we were just listening to it. So Tyra, an executive producer of all eighteen seasons, more than that. More than that. Like twenty two or something, yeah. And the owner of her own production company, a television producer, part of the suit complains that she did a three and a half hour interview and they only used sixteen minutes of it. Welcome to TV, baby. My love. What are you thinking? What do you think everyone's doing in those edit bays? What do you think the producers are doing? What a strange thing to say in a lawsuit. They only used sixty minutes. Did you think they were just gonna stream your interview that live? But like, but then you say that and I'm like, Yes, she did actually think that. That's the problem is that like an ice cream empire is she is building. You know what I mean? Like she's she did think they were going to stream her three hour interview. Therein lies the real problem is that she did think that is a mentally ill keeping billions of dollars in fame. And here we are in our black tank tops and our Amazon microphones making fun of them like they're the problem and we're like , I'm taking Amtrak to the Boston during the World Cup so I can the gay bar. And I'm making fun of Tyra Banks. Okay. Yeah, fine. We're getting back to it. But I will say the comments were like, baby, this is what like you're getting the treatment that you gave to every person that went on America's ExTomodel and now you're upset about it, which I'm like, I have to tip the hats all those people because that's the funny thing is that Adrian Curry who won the first season yes actually supportive of Tyra when the do cumentary came out. And she was like, she's taken way too much shit. We all knew what we were doing. We all knew blah blah blah. Well, she announces this lawsuit and Adrian Curry gets back on social and goes, baby. She's like, no, she's like, it's a little hilarious that you're complaining about the edit , which is what every contestant who's ever been on the show has complained about . So don't don't you're looking a little crazy right now. Now, Adri ifan Curry is saying that Tyre looks crazy, Houston , we have a problem. Like your problem like you are. Come on, Ty, Ty. And again, where is this gonna go? It's going to go by the way of Justin Baloney and fucking what's her name, Blake lively , you know, and exactly it's we're never going to go to we're never going to trial. We're never going to trial for this. It's getting we're going to hear all these updates of like the judge struck down XY and Z and then the this and like the thirty counts are now only three counts and the blah, you know what I mean? That's what this is gonna be . And I get there were when I was reading some of it, there were things where it was like, oh like the three other like you know, Mrs. J, Mr. J Nigel are all like consultants and I wasn't a consultant and blah blah blah. Like there are some things where I'm like, okay, that's like kind of something , you know? She did not. It's not an I read, I'm sure it's in other places, but I read this extensive for people magazine article . Where she like extensive for people . For people, yeah. Like as far as like a real like deep dive goes , but she sort of goes point by point in her lawsuit about everything and she's like very upset that Miss Jay was saying that she hasn't seen Tyra since the diagnosis and then all of her strokes . And Tyra puts forth as evidence a Merry Christmas text. See, I have reached out to him. It's like yeah, this feels so desperate and you know how desperate it feels it feels more desperate than hot ice cream. That's a good it's also too late. You're like bringing this back. We were over this like we we did it. We were there and then we were like, whatever. Anyway, you're bringing this should have been day one that it really was released that you watched it and then put out that Christmas text. It was too late before the documentary even aired. Like our opinions about the show her and all the harrowing incidents about it. Our opinions didn't change. They just were sort of solidified when we watched it. No one left that saying , Oh my God, I have a completely different opinion of the engeling America's next top model. Just made people feel fat and ugly. We already knew that. Honestly, remember when it came out, we were both like, they didn't go hard enough on them. Like we were like, they got let off easy on this. Yeah, you know what I mean? And so and then the fact that you're bringing it back again, the minute it hits the airwaves and she knows that Miss Jay was like, you didn't do that. You know what I mean? Like you like, oh, she didn't come see me. That's when you hit the Christmas text on your Instagram story . Not enough lawsuit . Well, Tyra, good luck. We look forward to following this two years just for two years just like Christopher said and watching it dissolve. Oh yeah. Like baloney . It's just not. But through all of this, by the way, isn't she relaunching wasn't that part of it? I think that for another season? No, because I think that she thought this was going to be her springboard to redo the show. And then when it aired, everyone was like, well, no, we can never bring this back now look how terrible this was. I think it ruined her chances of doing it and now she's mad . Well , the only advice I can give you, Tyra is if this does go forward, don't dress like Inspector Gadget for the trial . Whatever that treadcoat was, line a bird cage with that. What's it like someone was like one of the most famous models in the world and you show up looking like a flasher. This was the issue. You look creepy. Someone wrote like, she's just matched you had to sit for three hours in this outfit and then only sixteen minutes of it were used . Maybe there were many outfits and they only used the one. Maybe there was a reveal after a reveal under that code. That would explain it. Whenever someone's wearing a coat in an interior, all I think is that they have to leave, that they only have five minutes. So they're out in their interior out of here. I'm I'm like, we're catching you like outside of Bodega or something now, right? Like this isn't sanctioned . We lured you in here, yeah. You got fell into the interview chair and then you're just like never be over it. And to your point, you know, she should have done it the day after because now day of here we are months later relitigating how terrible it was. No one's siding with her. We were over this thing boohoo Tyra banks like, we're I'm more worried for who is what's the name of the woman I can't remember who was sexually assaulted and they shot it. I'm worried for her because I felt like this was like as much as they could push that story was like the documentary, like the rehash and then everyone go about their lives. But now this is gonna have to be brought up all over again. And on a very real note, that's not healthy for a survivor of sexual assault because they're that's part of the lawsuit is that they're you know, Tyrra saying I absolutely did remember Shandy and the documentary makes it feel like makes it seem like I didn't. And that woman needs to be left alone forever . Like no one needs to bother her again . So Tyra, if you are the woman you say you are, just drop it. Just understand that being a celebrity is like this . You got caught . Yeah . You just got caught being tyrant. Just keep being tyrant. That's all we actually do. Again, drop Santasmize part two and move on with your life. You know what I mean? Like just we can't like don't do we all know you're going to lose. So like don't it's, not good . Should we have we re fixed Tyra? No, but wait, she's on the border. We got it. Now that we're doing like we're expanding and evolving, which by the way, happens in two weeks, everyone, let's not forget where you'll be getting us twice a week. You'll be getting a big old thick prefix on Wednesdays and a big old thick Friday fix on Fridays. Now that we're expanding it, let's tackle her. Because you know, Tyrant Banks attempted to fix herself how many thousand dancing with the stars, hot ice cream, all this stuff. She needs us. She needs us. Yeah, we might need to refix. Moving right along and speaking of needing a fix . So I'm looping this needing a fix in with we all saw this coming ish as in this podcast predicted some of this behavior. David Beckham heard of him most famous, soccer star ever except probably for Pelle or whoever that other holly Shana Renaldo. Yeah, get that one. Gets a star on the Hollywood Walker Fame. That alone defies logic, but sure. I mean, what Judy Dench gets an SB Award? Like, why is David Geckum on the walk of fame? I'm honestly surprised he's not. I mean, he is extremely famous. He's very famous, but I don't consider him like an entertainer in that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah, that's true. PS , Victoria Beckham, ever, the queen of dry humor, shows up with her husband at the dedication ceremony and on the mic says that she thought that she was there to get a star for her role in Spice World . Love it. I love that she's in on the joke but just doesn't look like she is. Like I appreciate that about Victoria . So they show up, they're there . Three of their four children are there. Guess who's not Brooklyn? Brooklyn was back of course in Brooklyn . And luminaries such as Thomas Louise Cruz who, like David Beckham shouts him out. Are they Beckham Scientologists? Probably. Because he shouted out Tom Cruise in like an emotional way and he's like, I just can't believe I grew up watching this biggest movie star in the world and wanting to be just like him and now he's at the dedication of my star on the Walk of Fame. I was uncomfortable watching it. I was like, why are you getting a Walk of Fame star? Why is Tom Cruise there ? And are we all getting coconut cakes? That's the only real thing I wanted to do is when we get a coconut cake. Anyway, to make a long story short or longer, Harbor, the daughter who I believe is fourteen . She's the youngest one in what appeared to be semi staged went to her brother Brooklyn's house in Los Angeles to go see him and drop off a note , but he was not home. There were paparazzi catching her doing this theory is that even is that V ictoria sort of sound ed up Harper hasn't seen her brother in years and wants to see him and blah blah blah. So we're not going to rang on it too much because she is a kid whether or not she's a pawn but she wanted to see her brother. But then the peace der resistance of this family who is not content with two stories in a week in which David Beckham's already getting attention because it's the World Cup . Brooklyn Beckham , Brooklyn Beckham, not David appears in an ad to sell tickets to the FIFA World Cup. And it's a one shot of him sitting on his couch saying, if you're wondering why I'm not at the World Cup this year, it's complicated and then throws tickets down on the table and says like more to come or something like that. Something like that, but it's like now Dominic Pupa thinks the entire thing is a setup and that the Beckhams are playing a joke on Nicola Pelts. That's what I think . I think they're now using her and she's going to get dumped and the Beckhams will reunite during the World Cup. You've been saying this for months. You've been saying that you said at during the World Cup , like there will be something and they're we're getting something . I never saw coming that Brooklyn would be like the one in a FIFA ad hocking at the fact that he has like public ly lambasted his family . But they are running out of time. I mean, I think we've got five weeks left of World Cup, something like that. When's the finale, june nineteenth? What do I know? How do I know here? Oh, 'cause I'm the sportier of the two of us. I forget you are the sportier spice . I'm the Dikeer of the two of us. That's got two That's undisputed. And like truly, if the most famous soccer family in the world can't mend their fences , as I say, as we were saying in the group chat, in four years, no one's going to care. We're going to care much less do this now. We already kind of really don't care anymore, but it's like he made me care with this ad. He reminded me that they should be reuniting. So we'll see who does it. What if what if Harper was at stage and she actually does miss her brother? Then I'll feel like I'm sure she does. I'm sure she does. She's just a kid. And like, no parent was like escorting her, right? She just went by herself a fourteen year old . She 's got Uber. Probably an Uber pool to seem relatable really Um , not a newer pool . West what is West last name Wilson? Wilson. Yeah. Well, West Wilson started the week by saying he hoped that the next he hoped they lost in San Antonio because that would mean that the Nick's game would be airing opposite this latest installment that summer summer where seemingly Lindsey is like Amanda, you must like flee from him. He's a monster. Yeah. Right. Well, then Lindsey, who, again, you all know I've never watched the show. I'm looking at the show from ten thousand feet and I met Lindsey at the reunion and I do not I just don't like her. She just the h writong way. I'm sure I'd love her if I watched the show. No, but a lot of people are like, Dominic Lindsey's your kind of girl. It was like, no, but she's not the moment of strife , but she's like sometimes most of the time, the actual only person doing her job , which is causing drama, right? So she's a producer escalates . She escalates situations in a way that we need to happen before because we're making a TV show. So West is like, I hope that the Knicks lose so we'll air opposite another NBA game. Lindsey's like, you should go fuck yourself. I brought you on the show. This is how we make money. This is like, why would you be voting against something that pays you and your other friends money . You're a bigger piece of shit than I thought . And the Nix one , nothing aired opposite that summer house episode a few days ago . And it's all for naught anyway because West got shit canned from Summerhouse. Yeah. Thoughts. Thoughts, producer, Chris. 'Cause to producer Dom, it seems like, were we hasty? Was this a missed opportunity? Like don't we want him back? No from two episodes at least it's different from housewives where like you're in your own little world and then like you go and then you're at all caps like you're at events with the other because everyone's legit living in the house together and they kind of all need to be friends, quote unquote. And like, it just isn't the same as a housewise where it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter if you hate everyone there. It actually like ruins it. And like the last two seasons, like Sierra and West like haven't been speaking basically because they like because God this broke up and falling out and he like fucked her over and they go to stop. And so everyone listening to this is like dominic what like but and it was like annoying because you're like okay, like two people in the h donouse't like talk and we're supposed to all be having like a dinner together. It's like it's not the same of what we're used to. Do you know what I mean? So it's like I do get it because at a certain point it's like if none of them can like trust him that, it's gonna be like him on an island by himself when they're all supposed to be like in a house together living together and like all Comingling . But as of the recording of this prefix, we don't yet know if Amanda's going to be we don't know. We don't know. And again, Dominic, like I say a lot, these shows are conflict resolution porn . And when you get to like he did not come with his tail between his legs being like, we fucked up and like, please forgive us . So at a certain point, like if you're not contrition is a thing . You know what I mean? If you're not contrite when you come in there and be like, let's mend these fences , then you're not, I mean, you know, I mean, you've seen it a million times. Well, look, I come to summer house as a new viewer and an elderly asshole . And I think that this entire situation has been so overblown . I say that as someone that's not invested in the relationships, but I do think that it has gone it's gotten so incendiary the entire . I think West should , as I previously told you , go balls of the wall and just start fucking other women and men in Ciara's family. I'm sorry. It's just like this is your ex boyfriend fucked your friend. Do you know how often that happens in the gay community? It's if you're gay, it's happening to you right now, actually. I promise you. But Domino just no, but it's it was shocking. I need you to know that like it was shocking. And it was the thing where it was like the only person that was writing for you, you then like banged the one person that you shouldn't bang short like would put a stake in her heart. And that's what I happened. It was like a take it out on Amanda. Why does West have to leave? Why can't Amanda be the one to leave? No. And it sounds like Amanda's the one that committed the bigger crime here to me. And it has it in the beginning because people cheat all the time, but it's like the best friend issue , that I understand. You should fucked up . She got her knocks. She got her knocks. Are you kidding me? She's knocked it like she's going the way of Raquelle like she seems like she's gonna disappear. I don't know that she's I think who knows she doesn't appear publicly to be handling it very well. Like she's, didn't she walk off the first episode of the reunion because it was too much for her? Yeah . There just reaches a point where how much punishment is someone going to get they didn't invent a disease . They're just fucking and they just don't want to fuck you anymore. Go on. But the performance was bad also. Like at the reunion, they had no answers for anything. They had no, it was just like deer and headlights. Like it wasn't you would walk away from that as a producer and be like , this was a failure because they didn't act up because they probably don't think Yeah, because they don't know nothing to say and they didn't under they don't understand why everyone's upset with them and they like what they like don't get it at all and it's like what? Like it's it's I'm not saying I agree with them but they seem like very simple people to begin with to be simple as a word yep. Sure, but seriously like very like mentally simple people and they probably are like all the things they want to say it seems like they can't say. Like if I'm obviously Amanda and Sierra will never be friends again . But if I'm Amanda , I'm gonna look at Sierra and be like, if you cared this much then you should have just stuck with him, sweetheart . Be quiet. But she never also, if he's that much of a douchebag, why do you fucking care that I'm fucking him? You should be happy that I'm with a loser now. Go on with your life. I think the other thing is that like Sierra was the person that was like, your husband hates you and you need to get out of this really bad relationship and was like really there for her and then like for her to turn around and just like bang guy that she knows will fuck like hurt her is like bad. That's the part that you're not understanding about this is that it's like she was the whole season basically being like you need, to get out of this marriage because it's not it's done. Like, and you're being like, you know what I mean? Like this is like you're putting yourself in harm's way by continuing to be with Kyle. So Amanda got Sierra No, Sierra got Amanda away from Kyle . Like being like, you need to stand up for yourself and like leave. Like you need to, you know what I mean? Like there's parts of this that you don't understand because you didn't watch it and it's like the betrayal is so deep you're right about everything you just said, but it's like, but there's a layer of it where it's like the only person that was like on your side. You then were like, how can I hurt them as maximum amount of damage as possible? Let me . Yeah, right. All this is they're gonna you know, I do understand. I mean, I do understand it and I do think it's shocking , but it is I guess good people in their twenties. Well, it is. No, and it is very much. I'm not going to be anle assho, but I you sound like me explaining why bravo shows are important to other people like but when I've worked on them , I understand that. So I think it's good that West is leaving on a personal level because it sounds like the only storyline anyone wants for him is just to continue to punish him. And maybe now they're just deciding if that's going to be Amanda's own. There's just like no other way storyline. There's no other way back in. That I get just I mean that I get we're done. You know what I mean? It's there's no way and I bet you that she'll I bet she'll probably not come back either. Who knows? Who knows what's going to happen ? If she does , obviously at, some point maybe an episode nine, she's going to be like, Can my boyfriend visit for the night? You may know him. Some of you have fucked him. He used to live here . And then Lindsey can get her moment, and Sierra can get her moment, and Amanda can run out and then West can come fuck kyle. I mean, come on let's get on for real, right? Like a Shine Twain situation. Yeah . Okay, anyway, we've talked about this way too long. I don't know. Nobody ran away. Well, no Rockhell did. Raquel ran away from Vanderbilt. No, they all did. And the show imploded afterwards. It didn't try to rebuild it. But it was time for the whole . That was yeah. It just worked out great because it was like that show needed to tie up in a bow . Like it left with a bang instead of a whimper . So that was a great thing to happen. Maybe they're afraid that's what's gonna happen here that this next is going to phase out. Who knows? Are there new? Here's the thing and I'm be going to honest about this. And I have many friends who've worked on this, including you at a certain point . During the Vanderpump scandal, I couldn't wait to get in to Vanderpump and start watching it. Nothing about these characters and this situation has made me want to watch Summer House or learn more about it. Like when you're telling me like you don't understand and blah blah blah and it's like I didn't understand about Vanderpump but I couldn't wait to. But here I'm just like she still broke up with him. Like that's all I can that's all I can get . I guess I'm just a filthy gay person who's just a little like not that I think the physical stuff gets too much play in relationships in general, but I'm just like , just move on. Like everyone's too angry. And when the friends are angrier than the people who are 's a bravo show and I understand that intimately, but you're like okay Lindsay you're seeing yes. You're seeing the most annoying parts of it and being like, I don't want anything to do with this. And you're not like what you don't have is the like back the real backstory of the what I mean? Lindsey's the reason I want West to Fuck Sierra's mind . And that's all there is to it. Tell your friends to shut up Sierra, and then maybe someone else. I know that someone needs to go after them. You know what I mean? And Lindsey's lining up to do it. Even this conversation is not making me want a deep dive or watch episode. No, it is where it is. It is what it is. Anyway, but they start shooting soon, if not now. I mean, they're on the jitney out to the Hamptons already as far as I know. Like they're going to be there for july fourth. I know I wonder what's going to I wonder what will happen. I wonder who'll be there and who won't be. All right, let's talk about something a little more joyous and by that I mean buttholes. There are two butthole stories this week that I am so excited to talk about. First of all, we didn't talk enough about Hello fresh issuing of like if you don't very randomly broad statement . They said and I quote on the Instagram , we know eating isn't always a top priority this month. We respect that. But for those of you who are prepping, we have an extensive lineup of high fiber recipes available. Happy Pride. It's a joke about butt holes. My favorite kind of jokes could have thrown a fart in there would have been the perfect joke for twenty twenty six. Well, when I say the predicted response occurred was like what is that? And this is the funniest part is that all these people, the predictable audience online is like, I'm never ordering from HelloFresh again. And you pull up their profile picture and it's like, Sheila, you were never ordering anything that healthy anyway, baby. Not Sheila. Please, girl , please. And so then someone writes them and it's like, hey, how about a pride discount since you're getting so much attention? And they're like, you got it twenty percent off this month. It's like, boom, and that was it. And everyone online , all the haters, oh, how much business have they lost? None. No one loses business when they go after a gay audience. They only we don't have money because we spend all of it on companies that like us. So keep doing things like that. Also what like who ordered from hello frustrated more? You know what I mean? Like it is a bit it is a little precise. People still do these things. I really, yeah, I guess they do. Now that I know they' assre ignive, I may go back on Hello. You might have to get my ex husband we might have to get a discount code for ourselves. Okay, one more butthole story. Paula Abdul posts something on Instagram and when I tell you , first of all, Paula, bodyby bangin' she's in her mid sixties . She looks as sexy as ever. Take out Margaret Joseph. She's meticulous. Remember she is meticulous. Yeah . She is wearing thigh s to call them thigh high boots is not even is an understatement. They're like right up to it and a slick like leather rain jacket or she can inspect her gadget. She was interviewing . That's how it's done. No, but going down a staircase, doing her paula dances , and periodically touching her stomach , doing high kicks, then touching her stomach again, and then the caption pops up. I'm managing my IBS . Paula Abdul , you are the entertainer of the year. I have said this today on june seventeenth, twenty twenty six. It is your title to lose because of this IBS video. And the all the comments are like me too . Period. Period, I can't even believe I hope that the resurgence that there's a Paul Abdul resur gence connected to this ad. Yeah She deserves that. And while we're here, happy pride. Speaking of pride, this has absolutely nothing to do with pride. So we spoke about Branjolina in the mir val Winery last week on this broadcast . Not five seconds after it dropped did a loyal cistener who I will not name send me a screen grab of court documents that I didn't know existed because I we were discussing last week what happened on that plane. What happened on that plane? Where Brad was with the kids and the kids no longer talk to him and that was when the divorce started being spoken about. There's a court document that details this. Maybe we'll put it up on the FFP Insta Stories so you can see it. And I'll send it to you in a minute, Chris. But it talks about what happened on that plane and Brad Pitt was ted before , during and after the plane ride was physically abusive with more than one kid and with Angie. Like I did not know that he like made physical contact with Angelina Jolie and there was like shoving and grabbing and all this other not good stuff and it feels very, you know, orchestrated that very unfixable wouldn't feel very unfixable, but that this isn't more common. And I don't know . Yeah, like why do we not know this? Like why is it? Why isn't it? We don't know . Why have I seen Diddy beating up Cassie five million times? But I don't know more about this . Why? I didn't see Chris Brown hit Rihanna, but I know that he's dead to me and has been for fifteen years. Why isn't it Bradley? It's because someone's making an effort to make sure it's not like in the consciousness as much. So thank you to the Clist on who's who DMD me and I'm going to send you this document. It's only one page of it with several highlights and I won't read it here because it's too triggery. I mean, it's just like he shoved people. He children, his own children. Yeah , and they're all screaming for him to stop and he's ignoring them and he's wasted. The stories you find on Reddit, I don't go on it too much now . So I appreciate everyone saying to me. Speaking of Plitty, that disgraceful, I'm sorry, that patriotic UFC battle that took place right outside the people's outhouse, excuse me, the people's house. They were playing Diddy music throughout the winter of course. Several listeners made sure we knew right away that was the artist in residence that day by why wouldn't it? Why not ? Why not Dominic? And then this man gets up there whose name I don't know and we'll never know, but whoever the winner was, I'm sure all of you know this. I mean because it's the thing need to talk about this to we do because the point needs to be made that this was never about America's birthday, but it was it did become about what America is now and broadcasting that to the world. And the guy wins and gets up there. And rather than like, if you win a grueling sporting event, if the first thing that you're going to scream to people is Michelle Obama is a man , what are you doing here? I mean on this planet, like why are you wasting your time here , sir? No . But to call someone out and make their gender suspect when you're supposedly a man and you're wearing these tiny shorts with decup titties and a dick no shit looks like a clit in those shorts and I'm not exaggerating. Look at the photo. How the fuck are you going to get up there and say that someone's a man when you are very clearly barely one yourself . Unbelievable . Now we move on . Key Palmer and Sean Everything. I want dating. I want them to be dominant. I want them to be. I want them to be so bad so bad . So badly . If they end up actually dating , he should teach a course on game , basically on him because he's got it because he just put it out there. Listen, no, yeah. It's like, hey, you know who had a crush on Kiki Palmer? And she was like got activated from that. You know what I mean? Like she's like, Ding , like , and even if it's just for publicity and just to be funny that they went on that weird, imagine us going like some random restaurant B inrooklyn. We're like, well, you know, we're going to see a friend we're going and we're going to have this restaurant. And then you look over it's Kiki Palmer and Sean Evans having dinner. Like, can you imagine like even ? You know, I have a crush on Joey Lawrence, Lawrence, Sad Bunny, Ricky Martin. I'll get back to you with ten more and let's see who I end up being at a diner in Brooklyn with by the end of the summer. It's going to just it'll end up being Sarah Paulson and by But Dominic, I love it . I love it. Like I want to love them together. I think they're a gorgeous do it. Yeah. Do a sex tape at least. Let us see that. Talk about hot ones. Horrible . Well, this is good news and bad news, Christopher. Glen Cl ose is finally getting an academy award. She's getting an honorary Oscar . Great, but I hate when someone who hasn't won competitively when they have to do this. I fucking hate it because in the mind s of academy voters , that sort of excuses them for voting for her. Yeah, they like to have to give her one eventually. Right. And I'm I don't know, I'm just mad about it. I'm just mad about it. Albert Nobbs didn't give her get her an Oscar . No. Also my favorite. Didn't give her, didn't get her . I could have seen for the wife. The wife was her greatest. That would be her greatest moment, but you're up against Olivia Coleman in the favorite. Yeah, which was Olivia Coleman . I know. The only argument you can make about Olivia though is was that actually a supporting role Yeah, true et cetera True. I'm happy Olivia won gave a. She beautiful spe ech and acknowledged Glen Close almost instantly. But Glenn thought she was gonna win that night. She wore a gold outfit just like Meryl did when she won her third for the Iron Lady . I don't know. What can we do? There's nothing. I mean, truly there's nothing we can do. I think we should talk about it like gay people with a podcast . Well, Jelly Roll, who we talk about is strangely way too much on this podcast . Jelly Rolls filed for divorce from his wife Bunny . Bunny XO Bunny XO, pardon me. Yeah , please. He's the one who respect respect for her. Put respect on her name . A few hours before it was announced, Bunny appeared online in some slinky lingerie with the caption was something like I'm getting my sparkle back which I guess meant like I know that my formally thick husband is going to file for divorce against me today . And then I'm starting to read all these other things online in conjunction with it, which is like, we need to do a study about how people the divorce rate among people who lose weight through surgery or GOPs is like through the roof. If that's what this is , sure, like let's launch a study, but I think this is just a celebrity marriage that just ran its course. No, and I bet he's like, I bet he's feeling the fame. I bet they were with the same level of fame for a while . And then he got really famous and now he's like, I could be with JLO. You know what I mean? Like he thinks he could like go get JLO tomorrow and then is like Bye, you know what I mean? So for all the people who are gonna write me their think pieces about how I don't understand summerhouse, let me give you a cherry . I've never heard of Bunny XO before. I didn't even know her last name until this morning. So when Chris just looked at me and said they were the same level of fame , I what is Bunny XO's level of fame? I have no idea what she did What was his until three years ago? Well, I mean, he was just a singer, right? Like, what did she do? She only fans she modeled. I say that because she looks like one. Respect funny. Bunny Exo job . Why am I laughing? Hey Siri, she has a podcast. She's a felt she's a she is a colleague of ours. Oh, okay. A podcastress. Wonderful. And she an exotic dancer . What ? I thought for sure you were going to say that she was a librarian at a convent. That was my first guess . Well , good luck to the would they, what would their last name be Role? Good luck to the roles . I hope your divorce was as good as was as seamless as all of mine have been. If you'd like any advice on how to make a divorce go seamlessly , please DM me. Of course, the biggest rule I have for a smooth divorce is to not be worth anything . That's always makes it . Yeah, have no m nooney money. Have not have a negative balance in your savings account when you get a divorce that way. What do you where you can't get blood from a stone? Goodbye, Jelly Roll, see you with the next in memorial performance. Christopher on, today's a la carte , we're going to begin with the headline Zach Efron building a house made of cannabis . I will tell you nothing more. You have to be a patriot or an Apple subscriber to find out. Seth Rogan is done with James Franco. He has said he will not be giving James Franco a second chance therefore. Thank God. For once. Thank for once, someone does something right, than Godk. Diane Warren , still our girl. Our girl the relentless Diane Warren sends us a selfie from London where they did their first read through of a coyote, ugly Broadway musical . We did it. We mostly, mostly here for it . And a lot of news about Rosie O'Donnell who posted an update she had visited her daughter, Chelsea , she's in prison somewhere in the Midwest and a very positive update along with surprise news that she's doing her one woman show, which I think she did at Edinburgh Fridge called Common Knowledge. She'll be doing it for two or three weeks here in New York at the Darryl Roth Theater . FFP will absolutely be in attendance for Rosa O'Donnell because we , I mean, we stand in a, way I didn't before we started doing this podcast, but the more we deep dive into how she's been a part of our lives since infancy , yeah, I'm like even more obsessed with her than I was before. Much, much like the person we're fixing today, by the way. Miss Linda Cardellini. That's gonna be exciting. Speaking of exciting, just a reminder that in two weeks , fixing famous people gives birth to itself will be doing a full fledged prefix on Wednesday and then a full fledged fix on Fridays. The ale carte for Patreon and Apple Subscribers will be coming on Thursday and we're really excited. Also , I will be on tour tomorrow night, Thursday , june eighteenth, I'll be at the DC Comedy Laft doing my Pride Show, which is called this is not a Pride Show. It's just June and I'm gay. On Sunday, Father's Day, bring your dads. He will love me . Bring them to the Newport Theater in Chicago where I will be performing on Sunday night and then on the twenty third in Boston and the twenty seventh, Pride Saturday at the cutting room here in New York City. I do have some actual bad news that I wanted to mention on Maine today. A friend of mine and many friends of this podcast and many people in our business named James Bark er. He was one of the executive producers of Love Island USA . He passed away on set at work in Fiji a few days ago. He was only forty years old . Anyone who knows this guy as evidenced by the online tributes just , you know, God doesn't take evil people. She just wants to be surrounded by the good ones. So when someone's forty and she takes them, that's the reason why no explanation for it, but so much love to James partner and everyone at ITV and all of his family and friends. A truly I hate when I have to qualify that I'm not making up that someone's a really great person. This was just a truly great person and is just shockwaves to get a text like that about someone. And he was a great DJ as well. So anyone who knew him as chaotic DJ in New York or beyond condol ences to you as well. Hug your loved ones. We're hugging you. We love you very much . And we will be back to Fix Linda Cardellini with, who, Christopher? Holly Brown. The Holly Brown, I might add. After these vital messages . This podcast is sponsored by Talk Space. 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Start your go fund me today at gofund me. com That's go fund me. com go fund me dot com This message reflects one person's experience . Dominic, we have a returning guest from back in the old country, back in the like if we were doing seasons of this podcast like from season one of fixing famous people. Yeah , you will remember her from her us fixing Justin Timberlake LL before he even really needed to be fixed. Right. Truly DUI by the way. Yes. Pre DUI pre Brittany's memoir, Justin Timberlake. This was a while ag o. She's back. It's Holly Brown , and she's the host of the new podcast everybody knows but me. And so she's back and we're ready to fix someone knew I 'm not. I'm not gonna lie. I did not first season. Was I really on the first season? Did we probably in the first batch of episodes? Yeah, I think so . Yes. We had just started . Like we probably have like thirty episodes, twenty episodes , but like you were in like the beginning . You're gonna need a red string the first season of your show so you can connect the dots between like who really went off the rails like Justin Timberlake. There has to be more. Oh yeah, he can't be we should do we've talked we've long talked about doing like a special episode where we because there are people that have at least in our minds accepted our fixes and made their lives better and then there are people who like you've never heard from again . Yes. We should do that. We should keep track. Now that we've done one hundred and fifty episodes, we really should make sure that our work is being done. We need to look at early fact basically. And many people, many people were like, oh, they was like I, this is what you should do. And then they did it like literally three months later. And I was like, okay anyway. Tell us put it off there. Yeah, I know. Tell us a little bit about your new podcast. Oh, thank you so much. First of all, thank you for having me back. I of course the reason I was so shocked is because I could never in a million years have guessed that that was the beginning of the show. It just didn't feel like when I was there, I remember being like, these guys, they know what they're doing this because we were so polished. Yeah. Yes . Uh yeah, you were both wearing like full tailored suits then. So this is a little yacht self . But thank you again for having me. I'm just happy to be back. And excited to talk about Linda Cardellini, but my podcast , it's it's a little bit of a it's a wild ride that is about it's a narrative storytelling podcast that is about my life, most specifically the catalyst for the podcast is my father's deathbed confession his two secret twin boys . That as the title suggests and is true that everybody in my entire family knew about before I did. No lly . Yes , tell me you have tell me all your every time I say this, all my favorite thing is when people look at me and they're like, my uncle or my grandfather boom boom list of people in your life that have had two different families. Yeah. One, that , I've been like searching for a new like podcast like this . And I'm like, I'm trying to play all these podcasts that people are recommending to me. And I'm like, oh, this is terrible. I hate this. I hate this. I don't like this. Like what is this one from the New York Times or this like serial one about the guy that's called like the loser or whatever that is? What is this? , like, what is this? And then oh it's called the idiot, right? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? This is what I want. And I'm so happy and I don't know if this sweetens the deal, but the show is also told through the lens of nineties sitcom nostalgia Well, that's right up Chris's alley. It's perfect. Yeah. Because my dad worked in sitcoms when I was a child and he worked on the show Frasier for like all twelve seasons. He worked on he worked on some sitcoms before that , and I love sitcoms. And so it was just like a natural fit to be like, I'm going to analyze my very fucked up home life through these very traditional tropes and see how that interplays with like how I perceived my life and how deep ly I wanted it to be something different. I love that. What is happening? No, like this is, I'm obsessed. No, for real, I can't I'm like downloading immediately. Okay. And I feel like a lot of the listeners will also be downloading immediately. I really, really, I want to know what you think . So please tell me. The first episode is arguably the happiest and then it's a roller coaster ride of trauma I like relatable like, fucked up relatable trauma, so yeah. I can't wait to listen. It's called Everybody Knows But Me. Correct. So yes, it is. And everyone download 'cause it sounds so fucking good. I will, my review forthcoming. I can't wait . Now we are here to fix someone I love on screen, Linda Cardellini was delighted and surprised that she was on the list. Very excited. Now why did you pick her? What made you pick her? You know, instinctively, Freaks and Geeks was foundational to my youth. And so it was just hard not to let your eye go to someweshere that you just like immediately feel such a deep connection with for like I feel like Freak Sing established such of my taste. You know, I think I saw it when I was not to age myself in a whatever way this comes out, but I think I saw it when I was like maybe ten freaks exist. Sorry . And it just like set the barometer of what I understood of good content and also what I that I understood good stuff before everyone else did since it kind of got canceled after a season . And so I always loved her. And then watching her career after that, it was like weird . Like you love this person, you know you do. You're always rooting for her. And yet I feel like her career took a lot of turns that were unexpected, good and not never a bad performance, but just weird to me. And so I thought it would just be fun to analyze like how the hell she, like why I feel this way and maybe other people do and how now I think a lot of people see her in a different light. Yeah. I see her in a different light than I did yesterday because sometimes when you're a pop culture who there are just like a couple of things that somehow you just miss. Like you can't know everything and I missed her. Like I knew the name . I knew like maybe one or two things and you know, 'cause Chris had put her on the list, you know, we add to the list together. I didn't really know she was until I did my five minutes of research and I'm like , oh, we've grown up together because she's a she's around my age and I'm like, oh, o youh're you're in Velma. Oh, you're in freedom and it just kept like one thing after another . But still like and this could be my fault. There hasn't been for me like a brand recognition with her. Like I had to when you said Linda Cardellini , I can't even remember the one I knew about. It might have been Greenbook where I knew that her I knew her name was associated with something because I'd seen it printed, but I didn't make the connection that this was the same person in all these roles that were going through . Yeah. She had that the chameleon effect. She has that, what I think it's like a great benefit . But also like you're saying like I think I was listening to an interview with her the other day and she kept listing things off she was in and I was like what the actual I read her wiki that's my experience Yeah she's sort of like a Jessie Buck ley. Like because Jesse Buckley's been in a billion things and she won the Oscar and everyone's like, Who is that? And then you look at the resume, you're like, Oh, that's Jessie, that's Jesse Buckley. That's how I am with Linda Carlini. Anyway, we're going to play them in the name game where we ask our guest and Christopher to guess the middle name of the person we're fixing this week it is Linda Cardellini I don't even think he did this on the show the last time you did have the name game. No , I love it. That's how OG you are. Yes. Here are the hints you will receive. Linda and Cardellini are her legal birth certific ated biological names . She was born on june twenty th, nineteen seventy five in Redwood City , California. She is fifty years of age and she is , is that Leo or Ccaner that comes after Jem? What is it June? It's june twenty fifth, june twenty fifth is cancer . fifty year old cancer . What is Linda Cardellini's middle name on the getability scale it's definitely not a last name like it's it's a woman's name but it's probably a on the getability scale . I don't know how much any of the material that I'm giving you is going to help. I will tell you that she is the youngest of four children and is of Irish, Italian, German and Scottish descent . I feel like the fact that she was born in Redwood is throwing me because the name Linda Cardellini doesn't sound like someone that would be born in Redwood, California. And so that is like making me want Ied to go with something a little more like rose but I know that's not gonna be it now, even though it's redwood adjacent of trees . But rose is like somebody that's named Rose or Marie or feels she I thought she was more city gal, so I'm just thrown I'll give you one assessment, which is it's not even a hit. She must have been tributing some deceased aunt is what I'm doing . Okay. Oh my God. Oh, okay. Okay. I think I actually know this . Wait, do you think you know based off the clues or because deep seated in your brain you're at such a deep I never look. I literally do not Google End at all so that I can play this game earnestly. Like I literally when you were like the IMDB I was like, I haven't even looked at it yet because I'm gonna look at it . Go ahead . I'm so sorry. No came to me. To it. Evelyn . I was gonna guess Evelyn. swear on my life. I swear Hollywood. I swear, may I be struck dead? I swear on my life. I was gonna guess Evelyn . Wow, okay now, tell us it's Evelyn. Wait, is it wait , it's not Evelyn , but it's so close to Evelyn that 's just shocking moments all around. It's Edna . Linda, Edna screaming. I'm screaming. Screaming. Okay, wait, Chris, what was your thought process for Evelyn? What if it's like what if it's the same as mine? That would be nuts. I literally nowadays try to just do it through intuition and I just open my mind up and let and think of a name. And then the last couple like in an episode that it might have come out yet or not. I recently got one and it's 'cause I literally just like the name just came into my mind and I was like, this is it , but it was adjacent to like a crazy name that came into my mind. Does that make sense? , it's this crazy name, but it's like, it's not that. So what's a normal name with that same like sound? And it was this. Like I just Evelyn came to me and I was just like, I think it's Evelyn . But it's not it was Edna. You know what I mean? It's like I should have thought of another name. We were definitely Spirit was definitely there sort of guiding you down because it's like not gonna guess Edna ever. So you're welcome, everybody, we're never gonna guess Edna no Linda . Edna Cardellini, ooh, Linda Edna Linda, Linda Evelyn Cardellini has to be her family. It's got to be she's name like an aunt. And when you said like an aunt, I was like, Aunt Evelyn , duh. Yeah. That fits. Yeah . I can't believe we had the same gas. That is insane Holly. Wow, we're psychically linked . Oh my god. Oh, I don't know . Well, I will typically ask like what's your first exposure to her that you remember? I can't answer that because I don't I know the things she's been in, but I don't remember when she came in my life. I only remember retroactively. So when do you guys remember Linda Carlini coming in chat? I'm later than you. You're saying freaks and geeks, which is where we should start. I'm later than that. So yeah. Yeah, freaks and geeks. And then I don't remember which came first. I want to say legally blonde came before what's it called? It's a scooby doo, but it was like for me, it was like Freaksink Geeks cemented her in my brain. Then I saw her in this very bizarre, what I felt like was such a different role in legally blonde, obviously, and also like a small part. So it just I felt like those two pieces I didn't quite understand what this actor was trying to do yet , you know ? Oh my god, of course, she was in the later seasons of ER as well. That's where that's where she was member from in that dominant realize that you just now. Oh my God. When we when we get back to that you in that interview you sent me Dominic, she talks about that about how she basically people thought she went away and she's like, No, it was just on ER at the end of the show. When he was watching it anymore , but freaks and geeks is a really good place to start because like it really is one of those shows that was only what eighteen episodes long . But like yeah , if you look at the impact is Pete on it, almost every main character is like an A list celebrity now. I think they all are. Like I don't know even if they're not if they're not front facing they're behind the camera very successfully. So I don't I mean, Jane about this James Franco, Seth Rogan , Jason Siegel. Seagull. By busy Phillips Linda Cardina, Linda Cardellini. Yeah, that's five , five people that are like household name people. The main guy, what I can't remember his name, the kid that played Sam, the main kid. John Francis Daley. John Francis . A prolific screenwriter, though. Oh, really? Yes. What is he? He wrote wrote something really recently but he wrote like game night. He wrote The Dungeons and Dragons movie . Like he's done huge. He keeps getting bigger and bigger projects too. And he's just continuously worked behind the camera. So it's just like, how interesting this wrote Spider Man homecoming Oh yeah, see, there you go. Well, not to mention by the way Freaks and Geeks was executive produced by Judapatau and was created by Paul Feague who's like prolific everything from bridesmaids on like everything . He's done everything pretty amazing. Paul Feig, Paul Feg is in heavyweights. We watched that recently. Remember the heavyweights, the one that was like the fat camp with the kids and it's like from the sort of like, yes, Paul Feig is like one of the like camp counselors in the movie and it is so weird to see him as like a young actor. It's so wild . No, that's not true because he's never been young, so he can't have been young. No, you saw someone else, he's never been young. Yeah, yeah, true true true. No, but freaks and geeks truly is like a place where it's like these all these people and there are other shows like that where it's like, oh this one thing came together and then like all of those people use that experience to then like become like big huge stars . Yeah. But I and I think it was nominated I want to say it was nominated for an Emmy and it still got canceled. Like everyone loved it. And I was pretty I was very convinced as a child that I was the reason it got canceled because I missed. It was the era in which you had to obviously watch everything every week. No , and I wouldn't have had I missed like two episodes and then it happened back to back with another show I was watching and I just was distraught. I was like, I canceled this show. Holly, you fool . Your memory is very good because it was nominated for three Emmy's after it got a canceled. It was nominated. Paul Feig himself was nominated twice for outstanding writing for a comedy series and we're running on and on about how Star Study the cast is funnily enough, the one Emmy it did win was for outstanding casting for a comedy series. An award that has proven to be well deserved since everyone in it literally is now a movie star. Wow. Amazing. Oh my god. Ooh, I have chills. I love shit like that . So really like for me as like the newbie to her, if I'm like looking at the list and writing the three or four epitaph credits , I would think freaks and geeks . I would also think this is what blew me away because I've seen the wretched two thousand two scooby doo movie more times than I would like to announce , but she's Velma. And I didn't realize that she 's Velma until clitorally today that that was Melma . And I mean, I would put ER in there as well. Now that I'm reminded that she was in that as well. I'm sure for other people, there are different epitaph moments for her. Greenbook is obviously another one and I don't remember , I don't remember who she was in Legally Blonde and I don't remember who she was in Brokeback Mountain. These are good things, right? Like the fact that she disappe ar into a role like that, you know what does that for me these days Florence Pugh . Like if I'm told that it's her, I know it's her and I recognize her . But from role to role , I don't know who she is, which is a very good thing. So I'm saying that Linda Carlini is probably much more talented than I ever thought because I don't I don't know when it's hurt . I only remember broke back a mountain . I mean, she must have been Jake Gyllenhaal's girlfriend or wife because that Anne Hathaway, wasn't it? Oh God, you're right, you're right. Who the hell was she? Linda Cartellini starred as Cassie Cartwright. I don't remember who that is in the movie. I think she's a sheer not one of the people fucking in the tent or wives of their wives. I don't know who that is. I think she's like is. She looks very, I mean, she looks great, but she's like dancing around like it's very Oh, she's at a bar . Hold on, I' watchming a video a clip of it. She's like a little hoe in a bar and he's drinking Budweises trying to not think about men and she remember it. You know what I mean? For now that was Linda Cardellini. How did you? I did not remember that one. I feel like she looks great. And she's a little heartlet with little cowboy boots and little Daisy Duke's on and I'm loving it. You know what I mean? It's yeah, that's I can't believe that was her. I can't believe that was Velma. I really can't believe it. Again, who would have known that those were the same actresses ? Yeah, she plays she like the cool girl. Then she plays the weird girl, then she plays the smart girl, then she plays the hot girl and it's just like almost too much . She's too good of an actor. That's the problem. That really that's the problem . Because like Galman Scooby Doo, which is a big deal. At the time they really wanted those movies to be humongous. Like those that was big at the time for her to like were I mean Scooby Doo was a big movie. It's just , you know, board for me borderline unwatchable, but that's just a taste thing. I know there are people that love the movie. Yeah . PS. Have you seen the live action Netfl?ix released a live action they're doing a live action scooby doo, which is coming out next year and they released like the first teaser trailer for it I haven't, but I've seen the cast photos and it's just very bizarre to not know a single f ucking person . It's weird. We don't know who any of them are. Well, they have Scooby Doo in the teaser as like a puppy and he looks like a dockship. He doesn't look like no it looks very strange. I don't know. As a puppy after you grow into a great danger, why are we doing this? Why are we doing this? Why are we making us wonder about what this dog is gonna look like later? We are already doing this. Why are we doing it? No, you know , I don't love it. Anyway, getting back to Linda and her endless list of credits. Yeah, truly. She's also no neither of you will know this and no one. There will be like four people that need to know this, but it is important. She is the voice of one of the characters in a game called Gladius on PS two that was a great game. And I literally bought a little PS two and bought like found my old PS two games and bought like a little mini PS two so I could play this game again as a flashed adult. Interesting. And then did you know that as a when you were I sure didn't. I just found out right now and it's crazy to think about wow. I'm so shocked you don't remember her from legally bl onde. I don't, you'll have to tell me who legally who she was in legally blonde 'cause I truly can't remember. She was Chutney . She was Chutney. She was the one with the per like the Roman cardinal. What is Linda Cardinell i doing to me today ? Linda Carolini's been hiding in my sight this whole . I know. Does she maybe have actually the best career? Like not just the best career in Hollywood, like the best life where she could probably walk around and people would not one hundred percent know what she's from and maybe not approach her they're not sure yeah. I already know my fix is that once in every project she, has to look directly at the camera and go and then get back to her role. Yeah, and then that's my favorite. Yeah . She's in ER for one hundred and twenty six episodes , which is like a lot from two thousand three to two thousand two. That's the main character. She's the main character. Dominic sent me an article about her. She did some like variety article interview and they were like, people thought I went away and I just said, No, I've just been on ER for six years. And so they were like, Where have you gone? And she's like, why was just on ER raking in money hand over fist? I'm sure. But like, she probably didn't do anything else 'cause she wasn't allowed to. , what I mean? Like she's in, she's here and there in little things, but like, like, she's in Brooklyn Mountain while she's on the ER, but like she probably could, she's probably filming so much that she can't be in all these movies, you know? And then wait a second , wait, I'm going to collapse. I cannot believe my God. Linda Carlini was on Mad Men and she in one of the more famous scenes on Met, she had an affair with John Ham and the daughter walked in on them. It was like a it was like a she's like an iconic figure on one of the more iconic shows being Madman. That's Linda Carlini. I don't believe this . I apologize to the listener is that rather this is my brain unraveling rather than us fixing her. I just didn't know who this woman was. And again, even in that role, that's not Velma , that's not Chutney . That's not her from Brokeback Mountain. That's an elite could be the greatest actress of all time is what we're establishing on this broadcast. My God. And then what oh, wasn't she in? Maybe I'm wrong, but like the first major Netflix hit besides Orange is a new black, wasn't it Bloodlines? Am I crazy? The one with Chandler? I don't think she's in it. I don't see that just was a Smorgasburg of Brunette sorry. Holly Brown gets the point. She was in thriller bloodline from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. Wait, I don't see that's my girl That's my girl. Oh bloodline. Here we go. Okay, yes. In fact, they put that as one of her epitaph projects. Wikipedia says freaks and geeks, ER Bloodline. Oh, and then they say Sylvia Rosen and Madman, I guess I missed that. Oh my God, I can't I'm gonna I'm gonna jump out a window because I think I'm waking up from a stroke every five seconds . She was in that fucking show with Christina Applegate yes . That's what we're getting . That's what we're getting. That's her big return. Yes, that's what I was that's what I'm retirement. This is also my retirement party . Okay , but before we get to dead to me, which was a great show , she in the Avengers movies. Oh my god . She's Hawkeye's like love interest slash eventual wife like mother of his kids . Yeah . And she get likes snapped away and then like comes back in the later movies and is in like the Hawkeye Mini series. She's an Avenger. Let's see, what she's in. She's in Avengers Age of Ultron. She's in this is unbelievable . Avengers endgame. She's in the Hawkeye Mini series on Disney plus, and then she's in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three as well . And I remember her being in them and being like, wait, why is she in this? And it's like she's his wife . Yes. Clearly this week my five minutes, my normal five minutes of research was actually one minute, which is weird because she did an interview recently that I didn't read and I texted it to Christopher and I was like, let's just read this before we go on. I didn't read it and now every it's like a bomb is dropping every two minutes. Like I'm like for thirty nine years. We're alive at Dominic's mental instability like mental process. I truly, truly, I'm like, I'm it's like a labyrinth. This cardiac labyrinth. And she's been in like daddy's home, which I admittedly did not watch and I don't plan on watching , but Daddy's home, like she, it's name a genre. She's done it. Oh, I just saw she was in a horror movie, Laureona. Yeah, the curse of la Larona or whatever it is yeah. She's done everything . She's working. Like she's in Greenbook, she's in like a bunch of other random things that I don't recognize, but like she's in like a lot of shit . So is our hope to fix her so idiots like me who've been a fan of hers without knowing it for thirty years would like be smacked and be like pay her respect ? Kind of because she does need I'm sorry , she does need a starter like , you know, like, well, how has she been doing this many things and we're not remembering it? That's the problem. It's like she started on like such an infamous ensemble cast and she's still in that in our brains. She's still part of an ensem ble more than she has. I feel like everything we're saying is she wasn't the lead of not because even in debt to me, she's like the like, she's the second lead to Christine Applegate. Right, right, exactly. But like that show coming on, I loved Dead Tom Me. I loved it. Everybody did. It was a hit. It was a hit. I remember when we started watching it, Hassam was like, Oh my God, that's Velma from Scooby Doo, like where's she been? Like even then we were like, Where has she been? And it started who she was just by looking at her and he was like, That's Velma. Okay. And then he's a savant. I don't know. Like we don't we don't recognize her but at the same time, one thing I love about her is I feel like she's aging really gracefully too. Oh, she looks so good. She looks so beautiful, but when you watch her in a roll now, which I don't remember the latest one I saw, but I know there was one some show after dead to me that was on Netflix with Lisa Coudro or something . And she just like she has wrinkles in her forehead, she has crow's feet, but she's still hot as fuck. And it's yeah, like so beautiful. It was so beautiful to see her cast in the hot lady character still looking her age. And that was in the it was that show with Ray Romano. Yes. It was Ray Romano and Lisa Coudra and the kid had died and that was the yeah . Yeah. And she played the hot lady, which is, I mean , she was craving on it. And it's like and then I Googled or I was typing in my search bar earlier, why is Linda Cardellini? Because I was gonna type in like why is she so underrated? I want to see what other people said. Didn't find anything about that because I got sidetracked that the first question that it prompted me to ask was why is Linda Cardellini so hot Like yeah people love her but they just don't even know it's wild They really don't. I mean, she's just been doing all of these things for and she's probably so thrilled about it. When Linda listens to this podcast . F ofirst all , hey, Linda , second of all, probably, I don't want to be fixed. I prefer to live in my own form of anonymity getting roles because I'm good at what I do and not because I have a brand. Well, Linda, we're here to we're here to give you a brand anyway. I'm sorry that Yes, podcast is. Maybe not a brand or just I want everyone to know who you are naturally not the way that I'm a complete lunatic was just like, she wasn't that. I'm never gonna listen to this episode of the podcast 'cause it's sumiliating that she didn't like all these things. And I've had discussions with people about the characters she's played and not known the actress's name, Pre Bizarre . Maybe a way she could get fixed though is because I was listening to like briefly an interview with her before this and it was she was talking about Greenbook and she's talking about that she still has to audition. She still had to audition for Greenbook s, to you have say. And so that's what maybe that's the fix is like, let's let's make it so that you're so maybe not universally known that you're harassed on the street, but that you don't have to fucking audition anymore, girl, 'cause you shouldn't have to. No idiots. I'd be one of the idiots who's like name , here are some sides, please read them and she'd be like, I'm Velma, I'm Chutney. And I'd be the idiot sitting there going, I'm so sorry you don't need to watch. I'm so sorry . I am so sorry. I mean, she's illustrious career for real . And she is so pretty. And I love that she has bangs a lot of the time. I love the bangs. Love the bangs, love the big hair. She is in debt to me, especially she's such a California person to me as someone who grew up on the east coast and still lives on the east coast. Oh, is she really? She, to me, is still California with those little dresses and then she the way that they styled her and dead to me, like with the cute hair and the like not like LA California surfer girl, but like just so like California cutesy little girl, you know what I mean here it would be like New Englandie the girls with the little sweaters and the gold earrings and the little waspy white girl. Like the California version of that is her indebt to me. A lot better . What do you think her the one thing I don't know about her at all despite having seen her on my screen my entire ? I don't know what is her personality like? I don't have a clue . I want you to know. I don't want her to to know. But you know, a lot, I feel like you can tell a lot of times when you're someone's like even playing a role. You get a little sense of their personality. I don't have a goddamn clue what her personality is like. And that's that's really good. Who were we fixing recently where we were like this is, part of the problem. Oh, Ariana Deboes who were fixing. I don't know if it's Aria before this one, but it's like we were discussing like she's so talented. Who how dare we think we can fix her? But it's really like her brand has suffered because what we perceive as her personality is polarizing. Linda Cardellini, Linda Cardini does not have that problem We don't know it . And I still think she could achieve the goal that we're setting up for her without knowing more. I think we don't have to know her total money. No, we don't eat. We sure don't. Because she's done enough, we just she just needs a little extra , you know, a little judge here and there. But I don't know, she's she's our queen. I think she won. Yeah, she really is great. I'm really struggling with how to fix her. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm thinking about it. And I kind of had an idea going in, but this is hard . She should be fixing us is the problem. Like she , you know, as someone who also lives his life anonymously, I have an immense amount of respect for Linda Cardellini. Dominica bye Dominica literally the ballcast I want to know less about Mayambiolic and more about Linda Cardellini, please. I know can Linda Cardellini tells about her bowel movements? I'd much rather hear that. I would right. Yes . Yes, please. Okay. I mean , what else is there to say before we before we dive before we get to the arena? Are we all speechless? You know what she kind of reminds me of and it's different , but James Marsden's career a little bit everybody interested funny enough both undead to meet together as a couple. You know, yeah. Everybody knows James Marsden. I feel like he's more recognizable and is getting increasingly a little bit more, but there was always something about his career that I would look at his choices sometimes and I'd be like, who is your agent? Like who is like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like who is that? Why are you not a fucking movie star? And he never he never was, and I honestly don't think he ever will be. And but yet you look at his career and you've completely grown up with him and you could name a thousand movies he's in and she did everything. She had man Yeah like iconic characters James James Mars and I don't think does get quite as lost in the role as Linda Cardellini does, but still there's something about their careers that mirror each other that I can't tell is like exactly if it's what they wanted, then that's perfect. I don't But know . I have a funny feeling maybe they both want a little bit more. Just a little bit. I feel like Linda Cardellini is at like the tippy tippy top of like actor, not star, like, and then above that is like star. Give what I'm saying? Less exactly. You talk about like working. I think you must not want it. 'Cause there's no reason with this resume and this that she's if she's not a star, I feel like it's gotta be her decis ion. What if she did something real wild card moves? Like, oh Mary , I mean, that's a great that is a good that would be the highest that's becoming a very we throw that out a lot. Oh, really? Yeah. We've used it. It's been a minute, but we've used it so many times in the past year . But just a choice like that , you know? Let's do a, let's do a choice at no one in a million years. Sort of like when they had Betty Gilpin do the role, you sort of like really, but I guess it works. And I didn't see Betty Gilpin, but everyone who did see her said she was amazing. And I'm sure she's Lynda Clarke. She's a lunatic, so it was yeah, she saw some of the interviews she did. I didn't know she was a lunatic until I saw the interviews. Is she really lunatic? She was a little in the best way in the best way, but she's out of her mind. And I think that she's severely mentally ill and she talks about that in her memoir. Like it's oh my god, interesting. That answers a big question for me. No, but she yeah, but it's like she is like off the rails a lot in the way that literally her great artist . Yeah. Yeah, I've been to a mental hospital so I'm allowed to call her a lunatic. Yeah. Okay, I can't. I belong in one, so I'm just gonna say whatever I want and I'm going to use yes. Okay that's fair. And I anoint you. You're allowed. Yeah , thank you . Yeah, what to do, what to do what to do ? I mean maybe Kyle McLaughlin from Twin Peaks does an incredible job on TikTok, which is clear ly produced in everything staged by his child of some time, you know, or something like that. That's really cool. But it's just it's not like he's never speaking to camera. He's just doing videos of trends. He's never uttering a word and yet I will watch every single video and therefore makes me like him more. So now I'm like, what if Linda Carlini did that? You're still not giving us your like full personality or your opinions , but you're rebranding on social media as someone that's just like , I get I'm in the moment when I want to be . You should have been really great as if she was cast as one of the new people in and just like that, I think she would have fit in extremely Dominic . Wow . I can't use that as my pitch though because it's it's not possible unless I can, but I really can't. But do you come back? Come back Dominic. You really want seasonason four four? Sec seretly . I mean , yeah. Sure . I'd watch a I'd watch a one off of Ch iaz just to say in that universe for a minute. And hate it. And we hated ever. And we hated every body did. And we loved talking about how much we wanted to we really know maybe now I do want it back to only if Linda Cardellini takes over his Carrie. Can you imagine? , wow . Okay, no, I like SJP. I don't want her to take over torier. C Iar just wanted to be like some new person, a new woman that moves in across the street. You have an different idea because it's gone. But she needs more than new woman that moves in. That's the thing. She needs more than just Star . She needs to star. She needs star . She needs star. Linda. Linda, Linda, Linda . When it's time to scale your business , it's time for Shopify. Get everything you need to grow the way you want , like all the way . Stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet . Track your chicings from every channel, right in one spot , and turn real time reporting into big time opportunities. Take your business to a whole new level switch to Shopify . Start your free trial today . 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Linda Carlini has really thrown me for Yeah, this is this is although this has been a whirlwind like for you I'm not putting her in a regional production of Ongolden Pond . I'm not I'm just I'm trying to think what is the role that we put her in Yeah, mine's a tweak on a classic is what mine is I start yours. I'm gonna I'm going to come up with something. I really can't think of anything at the moment though . Okay , Linda , Evelyn , Edna , Cardellini . What I want to pitch is that she writes a memoir about all of these shows , about how she like, you know what I mean? All the different people in every show and what it was like being freaks and geeks and then being clueless and then blah blah blah and like dish about like what the set was like and like doing this and blah blah and like learning about her because I think that would actually like everyone would be like, wow, you really are like what just happened on this episode would happen as you read this mess. Right. What was it like to act opposite Heath Ledger in the one of the biggest roles that anyone has ever played ever . You know what I mean? In one of the biggest films of all time . But I just pitched that like two weeks ago and so I feel like I've pitched it so many times that I can't pitch memoir again . So to take it a step further , I would like her do a one woman show about her own life basically doing her own memoir on stage . And it could be on Broadway or like off Broadway, but very close to Broadway , seawise , where she does it live on stage and maybe people from her past, like and it should be called like Linda Cardellini is the best actor in the world or something like that, something crazy like that . And like every performance, like someone some, big actor from like Reese Switherspoon or Anne Hathaway or Seth Rogan, you know, Seth Rogan, Jason Siegel, etc. Visy Phillips, et cetera. Like there's one thing we're like some guest star comes out and it's one of them. You know what I mean? That's like a fun because that's like a Broadway does that now where it's like here's this surprise guest. But she does a one woman show where she talks about what it was like to like grow up as an actor and do all this stuff and like be this actor and all these different things. And like George Clooney can come on one time because he was in ER with, I'm sure they weren't at the same time, but still but a one woman show where she basically does her memoir on stage and it would be like very fun to go see her and like she gets her flowers by her telling us that she should be receiving flowers. Does that make sense? Yes . That's all I can because it can't be a roller or any of these things 'cause it's not gonna work. I know. You know . She'll just disappear into her life, which I'm sure she actually wants to be not that famous and like get that bag but then not be nappy who would get mobbed . You know what I mean? Out in public. Yeah. But I think I want one woman's show . Yeah, she needs to she needs to make it happen herself. She can't rely on another person casting her in the right role. I like the name too. Linda Cardolini is best active ever in the world. Yeah . Right? Because that's funny, right? It's not that on an Instagram ad, you'd be like, What is this? But you'd also instinctively know that she both knows that she is, but also would never, like, it's not braggadocious. It's not. No, she's like you would know that she knows that. Yeah, she gets the layers of that . Okay , I mean, I'll see it. Dominic , he's in prayer It's gonna be a bit of a It's gonna be a bit of a circus pitch. I'm going to be here we go . I rarely do this, but what I want to do is I want to hand Linda Cardellini over to Ryan Murphy. No No . And I want a series inspired by the under the radar career of one of America's most prolific actress es of this or any other time , Linda Cardellini . I want every role in the series to be played by Linda Cardellini. And I want every character to be a character that Linda Cardellini has played in her career. And I want them woven together into a story. So we see Velma , Shutney, Sylvia from Madmen , the chick from dead to me. All of these , I don't want to say iconic because if they were iconic, I'd remember them instantly , but they're like just under iconic all these things, especially dead to me, Madm en, like all of these roles are like you said about Christina Applegate, she's the one getting mobbed in the mall. Although I'm sure millions of people would recognize Linda Carlini and I'm the only idiot here . That's what I want. That's my circus p itch. In order, I want her legacy to be I was all of these bitches and you're still not mobbing me at the mall. That won't be the title of it. It could be Ryan Murphy's Linda, Linda L and, that's the name of it . And every character is someone is someone that she played. And it's just a tribute to the best career in Hollywood that no one's talking about. Lind Deartcelinia and that's my pit ch. Tatiana Muslani is shaking . It is, we'll call it orphan crack. Crack s. Yep Wow. Linda Cardellini is Orphan Crack, but yes, along the lines of orphan black for sure , but every role is not just Linda. It's a role Linda's played before. Wow , wow . That both sounds like an answer someone having a stroke would give, but also very impressive, very impressive despite, you know, candles going out fig uratively . Yeah Oh, she burning. She burnin'. She burnin' You had me the names, the names are really what does it for me. I really like Libdeland. That's a good . That's really good. Linda Land. Lindawood? Or Linda Land if you want to be real
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