Residuals and Career Reflections

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You know just it's in. Yeah, the third one It's it's kind of it's sort of the problem child. Okay. which had The strange elements that the audience were like, you know, you're giving me something that I don't stright. tell me it's one thing and it's got away from what people like. I hate that we can't do that. We did it in the other movie. They want to see something new and then it's like, You can't reinvent the wheel. No you want If you want to eat your Oreo, you want that cookie That's how it tastes like. You want You want the band to get back together, which is what we are And the band is back together. Yes. We're getting the band back together. The fly on the wall aspect of being in the room to see what say. Thanks for the plug. That's the name of the vodast. Oh, excellent, That's right So Brendan Fraser Oh you say it wrong. I say it right, Brendan, a phrase you I say it funny because He did a cameo in Dicky Roberts He knew the director because the director did George of the jungle, was it Not Tarzan. George of the Jungle. George of the Jungle, which was a parody of Tarz. And he was funy it was a big movie Yeah. one hundred million dollar movie. And he had done the show before and he was nice enough to say, I have a movie coming out. Can I come on again? We had a good time. movieies called Pressure. Freshree He plays Dwight D. Eisenhower. you want to make a decision interestnterested in the weather? I'm definitely seeing it because You know more about history than me, Dana, but I hearing about it made me want to see it. I like those kind of movies. Yeah, tense, a lot of tension. in the theater. And then last night coincidentally I ran into a Pollly shore at the comedy store and he said I said we had Brendon on I go, Brendnon's very soft spoken and very has a very sweet vibe to him. And I said, wasas he always like that on Ecinoan? ' like Qion and he said He said he was. He even back then He's very careful how he talks to and he's Even on the podcast very quiet and these very We talked after, so did you Very nice to me, very nice to you after. So couldn't be Cooler d talent packed in there We tried on Farley's coat by the way. Yeah. Oh you want to put a picture of that dance in it because he saw Chris' cod up from And he started doing some Chris fararw. Yeah Yeah very sweet.. Yeah. So this this one's interesting. We had him a couple of years ago and it was really about just his travails and show business. He had injuries and his wilderness years and how he came back and he did the whale. And then we talk about what's going on now and that and this new movie And another surprise if you listen to the end, a surprise to me anyway happppy surprise. And his post Oscar life because before he hadn't won it, I think he was just up for the whale Yeah U Okay, here he is. Brendon Fraser. You got in, there's a roomor you got in yesterday And D yesterday from New York. I did a one nighter in New York. Did you come in I came in. I left at three hundred thirty at Kennedy heavy on American airlines And so we climbed south for a bit and then well, you don't need the details. But anyway, the guy came on and said We just got a weather report. We're going to have two hours in it pretty rough Yeah You got it too? Hoppy. Yeah. I would rather get this choppy than I didn't think it was bad ' I was ready for rock and roll. I was ready for barrel rolls and W War two Yeah we won't go in the countnter free ull circ a guy playing harmonica. Dennisemberob. Denis used to say, I got a little light chop or dirty air Those are ways of saying it's going to get bad but I'd rather hear down like that A little bit of dirty air coming P Eclich told me that he said that he is a pilot in his family and he said that put your mind at ease. Is something bad' going to happen? It's after take off. likeike, you know, once you're in the air, you're good landing is a lot of, you know, comparing the risk. And if you think of, you know, air chop as likeike skipping a stone on water. likeike you know, it's not it's not as bad. So you give yourself a mental image. Well, I heard two minutes. like it's Probably a million to one when you take off, it's ten million to one after two minutes So I just count o backwards. Oh and take deep breaths. And then we get to one hundred and twenty seconds Which would be two minutes, right? Yeah. What about the landing? Metric minutes. Is the landing more dangerous than the takeoff G' are the weatherather pes I don't know. Well, the takeoff proves the thesis that the thing's gonna fly again. Okay? Yeah Because you know, they do stuff like, o we only go one engine in your life, ye. Yeah I don't like that. I flew on an A three hundred eighty once out of Paris. A three hundred eighty. A three hundred eighty. It's a shopping center with an ninjine. You know, it's just so fucking big. The bowl house. So we go on up in my wife and I go up in first class. And we meet Marice Trevalier, if you know the reference. The pilot We may not be taking off today. We have a little enine for a. So anyway, so we did go. I was kind of nervous the exact same flight seven days later Lost an engine emergcy landed in Greenland And interviewed the French guy. It was a mfucker I'm so punchy, I can't even It's Brendons g. Brendon. One thing I wanted to say to you because I was looking at some of the comments on the trailer and someone said I amm so down for this R Rissance Bre Aon. B All you've seen this? I've been a mee. I've been business Is it I mean U I think it painted on someone's ceiling Sistine chap Yeah, it's been has it been around? people are saying it People told me other day go I want to see you make a comeback. I go Oh, am I gone? They're like I've always been here guys. ide. Yeah, you just never really know if you're in it. you don't really know where you are on the I heard probably ten times this week because just Kazere, whereere are you going? What are you doing? Wh I'm doing this podcast. I'm going inter review Brendon Fritcher. I love that guy. Oh really. Every single one Every single one? Every single one, I love that guy. I don't know why they got got a memo or went to a meeting, but anyway, you know I'm going have to send him a Jesus. He's an Oscar winner. Its it's difficult. intimid Is it intimidating? not from You guys I'm still It's deffinitely we don't have Iing, but it's kind it's very cool. It's it's an affirmation that you don't really understand what the um prrotocol is until Hens to you Um, And in you know, the final analysis, I think it's just Um a way of me remembering how M people to me get to that place where you' even considered and then When it comes down to that envelope opening moment, it could be anyone. I mean any other. Yout we don't know. you know And there's relief because you said something, we know an answer Um You know, and among, you know, in your category At least the year I was there We had we'd been through a gauntlet of press and that's a question wor out that and yeah, that's your job. You should do that, but it takes a toll. and what it does is just make It's an odd job. It's a weird job. mean you become like, you know, you know, you got a lot closer. you care for one another and you're pulling for yourob closers and not that they're los lose. U Well, Bill Ny, and who was his first one? Bill Nye. Austin, Butler? Okay I like him, man. All great guys. And you smoked them, but Now, when you not true No, not true. It could have been by one percent. You don't know. It could have been like this. How were you crawling up to the Oscars like Golden Globes, all the critics' choice? What was your batting ratio? Yeah. How were you doing? you? I'm just trying to remember. No, No, no, no, no Colin was winning everything. Cin's fis Um, Con. O colin? The other colin. Hey Cin Bandchese of Inurance. A man of work. You can say it. Oh yeah, the bandchese of Insurance I really committed. I just said it. I got Iew there was a lot of letters. No, I know you following me O M onene mo It's Cin Ferrell C Quinn. suppose to see how many cololins you know? I know. I don't know that many Colin Quinn. I' not the guy fromen at work I'm out I'm gonna tap out on Colin. No, Colin fromr England Ireland, come on. That guy, you know that guy? First We'll calling Sarerroll No, Was it com? Yes. Did we already do it and we kept guessing. And I guess it's the first time you kept asking us. Listen, I saw that one time. We'll be right back. And I saw the whale You're interesteresting Yeah Banshees had no chance against the whale The whale the whale performance is like it's supernatural. I mean, it's historic Thank. I mean, I mean, it was just like insane It was a lot of real Hcore rehearsal with Darren Aronovski is the first to tell you that he would have been a ball umpire if he wasn't a director because he's K of gu sees everything, he gets the letters All you know is the place. And he couldn't cast it, right? He saw it in some older movie and went, Ah, that guy can do it. What he said, Yeah. Yeah. He had that. intention to make the movie for a number of years, I guess. but When we met, I was I was this formidable director and if you he's got eyes that are I kind like you, very kind behind formidable frames. We're looking at Dana Come on. I can go anywhere to go. getet your facts straight, Jackson Go to this straight or hormo. Joe Biden Some someomebody goes in it. He's Clark Canton Joe Ben Takes him off. But yeah, is he kind of considered is he a task maskter in a way, but brilliant Darren? I mean, I don't know, but he's he has high standards and he he the thing about him is that he does get the ideas from the best He calls every, you know, he gets everyone's opinion. He's diplomatic. He is a very good leader. any credits right away with whomever came up with whatever suggestion answer, you know, what to submit But he's also to say, no, that's not right. And he's he's always correct. like He asked that from any department B makeick up all but he knows the answer. and He has a real spontaneity and a confidence to him. If you see something Bussein is playing out chang the um, order of the coverage to capture a performance from an actor from a different angle just automatically because he's it's working, like let's. He saw that. So hell you know, he'll turn the room around just to get that now. Yeah And, um He's u I think he's one of the among the directors who we admire who courage you kind of fear no art in a way, you know, they and havingcourage doesn't mean you know, you're not challenged or You're fearless or something like that. but he does take risks. and I think that's where you know, big rewards come. He kind of work with less locations so he has that ability to kind of the camera. It's like we're going to the beach now or you had a lesson. In the case of that film, the whale was it was in one room, right? Literally in one ro. Yeah. It was Charlie's apartment And you know, it was in like a stage play in that sense that you could really get intimate with the f playay. The way it felt. Well it was written but as as a stage playight. Yeah and adapted for the screen. Yeah, Dana. Why Sam H. Let me look at my notes. I knew that. No it's better to have like a director because you've had a lot of directors, We've all had a lot of directors And I think it's better when because there's ultimately a final say So which makes the system work You know, when everyone pitches in, you give your ideas, I'm in these movies, you give your ideas Someone's going to make the final call. Sometimes they take your suggestions But ultimately it's better when you think they're really good. because It's easier to take when they make the final call. because some movies down deep, think they're any good. And then you go So this is what we're going with. Okay. And then you're kind of going knowing, I don't think this is right. And that's that's a tricky situation. but luckily you got this guy. And you probably work with better and better guys all the time They're all good in their own way. There are some directors who I don't understand theirirection. I will smile and nod. Yeah. and then I'll try to get what they said, you don't even know. And then afterwards they, yes, that was it. and you're like, I had no idea what you. I did the same thing. know. You try. you go, I think this is what they mean I've done that where they go nope, nope. and then Th you go I don't know what happen. stududies Come together on a Windows eleven PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with select Windows eleven PCs. Eligible students get a year of Microsoft three hundred sixty five premium, and a year of Xbox GamePass ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller Lear more at windows. com slash student offer. Law Supplies last ends june thirtieth turns at aka. mS slash college PC. Heat up your fourth of July at the Home Depot with our wide variety of grills under three hundred dollars and make every gathering one to remember Give your outdoor space a glow up. 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I think or early ones. once I started doing too much, then I' gilding the liily So Kubrick would have been a nightmare for you It would have been a long day. Two on Even adventure They say that, and I'm like, I would not envy being a hundred takes. someome people bg. like Tom Cuz like we did a hundred takes to get it right and I go Ban is everyone Yeah. You can't get it in fifteen. I mean, ye Or what Things are different now considering that it's digital, right? That'ss differentnce. Cameras are like flipping on a light switch. You they just leave on all the time and then the kind of we used to say, you know, we'll fix it in post or You do it in the box right now overnight you Um So it takes longer and longer. They' the rhym of change And like sorry, Id interrupt but I kind of like them sometimes If you're comedians, you like to improvise. So digital revolutionary for people like Will Ferrell, you, Adam Mcay just put the camera on him for like ten minutes And will just throw Do what he'. pick the best Right? And that can also be prohibitive in a sense that Too much time. Too much time Yeah. and You feel like you are an almost you know, a theatrical sort of venue when it's inherently you know, cinema for a, you know, a smaller sizeed performance. So, you know, we're not out getting a whole play scene. But then sometimes There's pros and cons, of course. I mean, the physical act of taking magazines of film off the top of the camera and having the rhythm of, okay, well, they got to reload That means I can breathe for a second. I can check in with the whatever, have a chat about this, talkal to the camera guy U now, um You know, whole new generations come of age. period were It's ubiquitous and constant and it gives you a sense of be on all the time ' it's open ended. It's not really It's an interesting thing When this happens when you're shooting and then they They're doing more and more takes And if you even feel like you're getting it right, maybe they're looking for something else I start changing my performance because I go We're not moving on, so I'm going to try different things And sometimes When they move on, I'm thinking The early ones were better. I don't You know, I think maybe they're looking for someone else's coverage and they go, oh, that was better. And I'm like, Well, now I'm stuck in mine that I didn't love These things is inside baseball, but you know what I mean? Like you I'm just changing because we're not moving on. so tweaking and trying to try anything else to feel like it hits And then sometimes the one they go, gotot it, and you go And then you have your own inner critic going Yeah, you know, ten minutes later. Oh, I should have. Yeah. I could have That's the worse and you move on And wait and then you got aic, you're going to run up the escalator to get to the top and get I just want to do one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since you did don you know comedies or, you know, and then you've done real drama Do they scare you equally or it's like what's the most frightening for? Be I think just being very vulnerable on a set would be harder than comedy in some ways. I' I'll shoot just straight. Dana, I always feel like someone's going to walk in the door and hand me a dish towel and say Fraaser, get back to the G out of here. You just it's in me. I know. So even after the Oscar, it didn't kind of affect you a little bit, not cock you, but a little bit. I must be doing something right Well, I got the yeah, I mean, like Well in that case, I do know that With the whale, I did everything that I humanly possibly could. It was twenty twenty two. We all thought we were going to die tomorrow anyway because of CO. It was existential threat for everyone.ors You know, ideally supposed to do this like it's the first and last time you ever will. So you know, leave it everything. Give it everything you got s right for the part. Um When when I can remember feeling like I had everything to prove at that time in my career And u, If the film didn't land with an audience or it was not received in a favor way you know with Everyone has best hopes for the work. then I I would have I just would have taken it straight up no traceer that, okay, I really don't know what I'm doing because I was all out Yeah I didn't have any other ones. So that really did exhaust what was in my repertoire at that time. And so It's nice that it was well received and that it was awarded and given all this recognition, but is not because of anything that I specifically did. It was Hong Cho, it was Sadie Sink They I think was good in that ye I think it's also you get in a place where you go This is the one that works because it feels like to get the elements to come together You know, you get the cast and the director and the script and then you end the editing and the promotion, you like and the trailer and you go, So far, we're doing good. I've seen the final product We just got to get people to see it And a lot of movies that the wheels go off earlier. and you're like, I don't think this is the one I think this is going to hit it on all cylinders and And then there's that X factor of who knows what knows Audiences where they are culturally in their headspace. what You hit it at the right time. do they need to see What do they want to feel more about? you know, we all go through these sort of trends of Yeah culture, right? What you think about the way they That's true. Yeah,esci with comedy, it really there was, you know, Tropic Thunder and the hangover and movies like that.ight. On til recently there was an R rated comedy. kind of felt like it was from the nineties, a brie brief run at the B C It was called Bus Boys. Yeah that David made. It was very good Rpets great. I did a movie. But it was low budget movie. It was post any kind of stuff It's all politically incorrect. Yeah whichich brings me to this question Is it too late for you to be in B Boys? No, is it No, when you did I did answer the call back in the day. Oh, you came, I love it. That was Sam Weiseman, right? Beuse he didn't tararsan, right George of the Jungle. Yeah. did you? in the jungle? It was Gorge of the Jungle. You played Tarzan. Tar J. You playedeorge. Tarz and Parh based on Tarzan from the cartoon. So the still quite a range, man. Do you do Let's just say some comedies Then you get really deep All the way to the whale, you did a Rntal family, which was a very nice feel good movie. Now they're sort of on rotten tomatoes. Not that right Yeah Incredibly That's I got eighty eight with all mine combined. I remember that U it was eighty six.'ll talkul later Did you I read a review said Oscar Worthy. This is for them. Really? Yeah Possibly if, you know, an audience's headspace was in place where it needed to hear that kind of story or appreciation case of Randal familyily, it's a movie about a guy who is in country that is not his own and the country's not in is the United States and he hasn't been there for about seven or eight years. I mean, you figure out why did he leave America? Wh is this guy? Who is this guy? and what was it that he doesn't want to go back to? Well, you know, what's the temperature in America today? That's a whole other conversation, right? But he finds himself in a new place and he's extraordinarily lonely in one of the busiest cities Right is realizing that Yeah, he's going to die a lonely man who with father issues of his own if he doesn't have some sort of sense of connection with people that he can't get through his acting career because Let's face it. he's not a very good one. H big gig was Mr. Clearbright man in the toothpaste commerion. And you know, and that's a trope. It is, you know, if you've ever you've been in Tokyo, you see there's mascot. culture is huge. Yeah. expats taking those jobs are like plastered all over advertising everywhere in Japan And um, It's still not enough. and once He stops warming. you know, in this sort of bufooned clownish way and is able to make connections with people in a meaningful way when he's not you know, performing for a camera, but instead heies working at a service industry to give companionship to people who are And we're desperate or Authenticity. It's a good premise. And if You know, that, uh can help. It does, sometimes it hand and that's where this film really lives. what are those Thorny questions about standing in as surrogates in people's lives. It was it kind of fun playing an actor who ends up acting likeike he's pretending to be the The long lost father or whatever He goes guire plane is also pretending It's a performance of a performance. You're right until it gets the logarithm gets a little bit too confusing and he just realizes I'm gonna stop doing that and jump in with both feet and just u be and then learn, of course, that he indeed is actually being Is there anything thing like that in Japan It's a business model that existed since the eighties. I did not know Yeah Fide's a great idea. And then Yeah, I saw a scene with you and this young girl and she was Shanon Gorm and. she was nine years old. never acted before. W her nine Oh, she was good. twelve never act her No, while she's nine years old and he s they look it It was pretty been woring the block, but So they were worn out byple scs. That was So she was really good, right? There is something about the purity of a kid you know Itaybe not overthinking.re when you're casting a kid, you're also casting their parents. Yeah, you know? for sure. How were they?'s Terrific. Oh good. I mean, just terrific. Supportive Her mother is Bese her father is Irish So I mean, she fit the bill to a. and She was, you know, naturally gregarious and interested in pleasing the grown upps and performing on her own. So you know, it fit the The criteria perfectly And we quickly learned we had to stop rehearsing with her because she had because she hadn't acted before she was learning kids or sponges, right? You know? We didn't want to play in her game in a locker room. Just get her on set. Yeah. shoot it R Cture lightning in a bottle, you know? I like Is Hakari? was that the directory? Yeah, that's right.. And is Hakqari someone who you knew something they did or you just the script is the part that got. The script was first I did not know her. I met her of course, but Um That was just before the strike and then we had to wait for a year Um She and her writing partner, Stehen Bluhut were're in Tokyo trapped there during the lockdown. and he's an American and he was looking for a job and he was going through like classified And he saw an advertisement looking for you know, rental boyfriend or rental. You know, that sounds a little hokey and a little dodgy in some ways. Th those services exist. You a whole other another movie. And he said, what's this? He asked her. She said, I'm Japanese, I don't know what this is and that's how they started reesearching and finding out Interesting. Well, the fact that it's real is even better And what's this latest one? I'm sorry. It's called Pressure. Yes. I'm very excited to see that. Are you really? I honest to God. I saw because it gave me vibes of the Church Hill movie with Gary Oldman Focus features, yeah, that's what they do. Yeah And I love that movie. I've seen it Probably five times. My wife and I visit it every once in a while this one Um knowning a little bit about it, you know, and how intense the weather thing was and how rudimentary our weather thing was Yeah. So How did this come to you? And I want to just know, what you know, you're going to playwight Eisenhower. I mean, that first you kind of go And then right? And then what do you do? But Yeah and tell them tell cr a little bit about what it's about. Sure, yeah well pressure is the weekend before D day invasion, which was history Tells us Tuesday, june sixth, nineteen forty four I didn't know that the date originally was Monday. June fifth and June forty fourth. Largest amphibious attack. threeree hundred thousand in a morning ever That's the biggest ation detail logistical newew equipment never been done in battle before. Early call sheet for extras. Exactly We gott to get there at two AM. We got to start shooting at sick. Well one of the most indelible moments of my cinematic life, seen the longest day with my dad when I was like eight. And the Germans are like, Shaz like know, they don't think there's any attack coming. And he goes like that you see like a million ships. Yes. And as a kid, I was like, holy. D That weekend Of course, they factored in everything that goes into an invasion. and certainly meteteorology and the weather plays a huge part. That's another combatant Eessentially And um was for the efforts of meteorologist named Skag in This Oh courageous enough to stand and tell everyone almost Cassandra like You need to heed the warning that there is an inbound storm. delay this storm like a big a big storm complete six foot waves Air Force couldn't h targets Landing craft and me of those are 'y enough to begin with Yeah manyany of them then make it under good circumstances U And he said, you have to take this seriously. And u They did. delay actually, it was going to be later. I think it was the eighteenth was the soonest they could do it considering The faces of the moon amount of refflected light to attack S love all those pes everything Andingy decides. Pardon? You're the guy that decides Well, he had the final word. you know, he was Eisenhower of the Joint Chief of Staff was the last word. And the final word and the responsibility was his and his alone and he took it. He did. I mean, he's as I studied and learned, He wrote a letter in advance of response to whatever the outcome of the invasion B and and one that was in defeat. And the one in victory was the one that we know of, but He cared for the troops intensely. That's, I mean, no secret. he definitely didnid't have u We will get boots on the beach no matter what. They knew they were going go have a Bar knuckle fight with a chainsaw as it was already Uh, he He didn't want There to He Yeah one of the fewest reasons for people for his soldiers to prevail knowing that There's an estimated seventy five percent casualty. anticipation. That's on a good day like that undernder those circumstances. Oh who. We can talk about it and hearing you say that and seeing you get a little emotional. It is sort of like hard for us to fathom p sending people that task, those young men that happen to be eighteen or nineteen or twenty twenty one on those landing crafts You know, it's just It's, you know, we also saw Sving Private Ryan, which was sort of It's it's anthem it's an anthem for, you know, the genre. Yes, there are battle sequences to put us. in the right place that are in the film pressure because, you know, they're required, but also and pressure. takes advantage of archival footage, documentary footage that we're all pretty familiar with. We watch the history channel growing up, but that imagery was actually a doo of a doop of aoo And so Anthony Merris, director. went to the source And he uped the originals And you know, whatever our feelings about so You know guuardrails around C or AI which was formerly CGI U you know startking up R going. It does give you a feeling of authenticity when It's also in different eyes you're seeing it because it's very real. It is. Ten Burns film. was on the First World War was inspiration for this. And you know, and in that one, you can see Soldiers' breath. You can you can they brought in lip readers and to learn that somebody in the trench of was going, o, the sergeant, he's lost. We're going We're not you know, or they're swearing at each other who took my boots whatever it is, you can and it gives such reality to And and and the way that we see the footage in the film pressure It seriously looks like it was shot, you know, last week Yeah on a news broadcast . You probably wouldn't have used it if it wasn't looking up to snuff anyway Well that too. and also hey let', it's saved a lot of money because a lot of that gets recreated. And, you know, to various big, big levels of success fromer Yeah Right Yeah, Charlm Heston Chuck he told me once they couldn't make Ben her again and they tried. in maybe fifteen years ago because of the real chariots and if it's a thousand people, it's actually a thousand extras. Right two thousand extras. It's just so vast We'll see where AI goes, but you're trying to get it connected to you can't tell that it's not a real guy on a horse running and stuff I guess When we don't see the construction lines around the images, our brains are satisfied. I mean, you know, we gentlemen, we live in an age now where The next generation has had Yeah Lad trained by digital imagery to recognize What smacks of authenticity and what does not just automatically by virtue of looking at phones in their hands since childhood I didn't we had something completely different. I mean, we can I'll remember looking at CGI heavy movies in the nineties and the eighties and you know, giving passast to really funny looking and a But they all had their certain charm at that time too. I can tell what's written firstassic Park is the best I saw First Jurassic Park F first Jurassu Park is Well Sielberg, the dinosaurs. Was it when he jumped at the the Rapor who jumped? I jumped when I saw that film the when they're in the kitchen And the dinosaur, they're trying to climb I think through a hatch on the ceiling. And the point of view is down and the rator comes in looks up and jumps and you go, Yeah, Boost Gar. I think. I remember they brought Spielberg There's five of them now, a thing about the movie before they did it convinced him was they showed him what the dinosaurs are looking at. He watched and he goes, o, shit, this is This is better than I thought. Let's do it. If they can look like this We can do the movie around this, you know, which they did and it worked Absv. Anyway, so the film really centers on this incredible decision that lands on Dwight D. Eisenhower's. Well take into consideration in nineteen forty four that meteorology was kind of just looking out the window. Yeah, wasn't it no literally right? down It's actually raining over out here in the North Sa And then you try to extrapolate? Yes. What made the gentleman and the meteorologist special The Americans, as depicted in the film, were reliant on analog. so they went off of records. If the farmer' almanac Almanac, That's right. In nineteen twve that it did rain it rain today. Wow. farmers. Farmers' almanac doesn't get enough crop. A million men are ready to go. Let's see what farmers al. When did the crop day last They just really look out it's cloudy, like you do all growing up. You're like, oh, it's rain. This is very less nestment from Yeah would be. barometer, you know he just wouldn't he like he would to give a report from the helicopter? That's right ye. was less. was his big move. Well, you know and using science is essential which is the point of the film to say, hey, give me the data. So weather balloons and barometric readings and all of that are the collision of ideology and which one will prevail and which is the tried and true method and which is the obvious difference North African campaign had pretty dry conditions, so it safe to say, hey, it's not going to rain tomorrow. Yeah. But in Northern Europe, there's ten different weather source systems that come through every hour And we really take it for granted in a manner of speaking You know, when our airplane starts chopping up and down says H you know, Yeah, I know weather boy comes in and starts saying, Hey I don't think you should go I like that anyone even listen to this guy You know, that's that's to a certain extent and that is dramatized. for it because it's look face it, it's a movie but he didn't show up really at the last minute and go hold the phone Yeah He had been There's some grumblings, I'm sure. there was dissent. and so that's the point of the film is what wereere the conversations in the seventy two hours or so leading up to it and what really was at stake. And the weather was just, I mean, imagine punch list of things to do. That was just one item. Right. And you're going stop it for that and that's and you're like, this sounds crazy, but he's probably like When you see in the trailer it's like two storms coming. It's like the perfect storm with Clononey. you go This is going to be worse than you guys think. Don't go And then you go, I've been in storms. and you go, well, if it's this bad, that will make it go from seventy five percent in effective. Yes ninety five. I did not know that and I did not know this about the weather Dlay when Tay was, you know taught to us What Stag did was he did accurately predict that there was a break in that storm. That was a big thing, right? Yeah. twelve, fourteen hours or something like that. And if they were going to go Go then, otherwise they would have to wait until the eighteenth. and the Germans would know Wh other reasons why it would have been clarity So if you think about it again now This thing is delayed We're not We're going go on Monday, we're going go on Tuesday. All right, we're already at seay. You're gonna to wait for one storm to pass. Yeah, okay. A lot of them are already at sea Yeah because and a lot had to turn about gas up again, you know, and It's not like you're rerouting your FedAax package delivery here and They did go during that narrow window of opportunity made the Germans think they'd be crazy to attack in weather like this. So they really did catch them unawares in that regard. I mean, the Germans were rooted. was there some red herring like they Germans thought they were coming some other way. Oh misinformation was used so many ways. but yeah, they were convinced that they would be attacking from Sherborg U but they had been misdirected with all kinds of, you know, sure Mart like that about World War two, and that it's a fcination of fake planes from afar They' made of cardboard or whatever. Inflatable tanks Yeah. And the parachuting little m little down. You'll see those in this film. Oh good. And with the clickers just one of buttons. onene of six. I don't know if you know this name. One of six, one of six I'm par of troopers Landed in the right place, justust one of six M right, this is trivia And I'm just going to take I just want to ask some questions about getting into Dwight D. Eisenhower and trying to get because to forming whatever you were going to bring to it the because I was reading about him today and he was Interesting in any kind of hierarchy, how he's going around, going around, then he becomes the guy at a given point. deals with Patton later on at church show. And of course, Damien Lewis plays Monty. That's a great, I love seeing him in a movie. So what was your process? you got it Were you terrified? or you' like I'm playing No no, I was daunted. abbsolutely. And when Anthony said call that I got the offer I said me, like I mean why Well, you look just like But do I? I don't know. I didn't I didn't it's not the first thing I would think of. I'm like, okay, yeah the hair All right. well, you I could probably I just didn't I didn't and then he said, It sent me two photographs alongside myself and I went, Oh, hang on. hang on. We're about the same age at the time. I'm fifty seven And he was, I think fifty four when at that time in his life And We did have similar features. I am taller than he was I am I have a much different build than he does m he was eating Like everyone rations at that time. Um, uh, I I knew that My body type as it is is kind of what you see is what you get So I couldn't will myself into looking like the shape of another human being that I'm not reductively you know, as opposed to what I did in the whale, which is the other way around. So Um I had to find a way, honestly, to just give myself a break and alleviate the U I have to give a facimile performance. because honestly, I'm not the kind of actor who knows how to That that there are those who are great. Carary Ooldman, fantastic up here ye. That was Churchill. I don't know how many people really know talked. I know he's president in the fifties, but he didn't seem to have a big de You know, or a weird accent or like Yeah He was from Kansas. Yeah inwter Ailaine, he He graduated And top of his class, he wanted to go into the firstirst war, but the timing was he graduated and the war was over. So For the next forty or so years of his career, he never fired a shot in anger never was fired at in battle, he was Ecellent strategist Ecellent diplomat Um, you product of his time as everyone was, and I tried to dismiss the things that I, you know, ethically morically didn't don't concur with. However, that's not my job Different time he was prescient in the sense that He really cared about partartnering with an enemy rather than rubbing their nose in NATO. h Jenns Civil rights. NASA, you know, he Yeah, he was part of a lot of things. Yes, he was a leader And he didn't Um, demand perspective He commanded it because he earned it S You know, the sincerity in the the, um, truth that he brought to how he did his job. Everybody wanted to follow is interesting, you know, a brain trust if it's a military one, even in Hollywood movies, you're around a table and you're discussing an idea And then you go person to person. So was Dwight the kind of mic drop guy? likeike people going, we should do this, we should do that Hey guys This is what I My take is that he was kind of like Darren Aronovsky in that he heard everyone's opinion. whether he agreed with it or not. He went around the room And the good idea was the good idea that we because and he knew what it was, but he but he did hear from everyone. And he um give credit right away for where it came from. So I mean, this is this you know, these is this is This is this is not sitting around a table in Hollywood somewhere. this was, you know, the your li Supreme Ct. So is that the fly on the wall aspect of being in the room. to see what say. Thanks for the pluuck. That's the name of the vod T That's right The fly on the wall point of view. It's the first time anyone's seen it is is what makes this movie because you get to see what really would they have had been talking about? Who are the people when, you know, we know We know, you're polite and everything, you're nice, but what do you really think? And that's how Anthony directed this movie And it, you know, I always I express a little bit of concernation about long takes and all that, but He definitely had a method where did very long takes, repeated ones reset, but working in England with British actors, they all come from U Rrand tradition of yes And um You'd be surprised how much you find yourself uppping your game when you're surrounded by incredible actors. That also helps. So long takes like that. The camera' moving around goes elsewhere and you got to stay in character. Yeah comes back around Yeah You talking about that like with movement or just even r? There are two yeah, like two or three cameras depending on. Therere cameras going at all times like a couple There was always at least triple or double. Wha. you think that feeds it up, you think You'd be surprised, right? ks got slow. Yeah, ye, yeah. Uncovered windows can make your home feel up to twenty degrees hotter. Stay cool and save up to forty five percent off custom window treatments during the fourourth of July VIP access sale at blinds. com. From outdoor shades to room darkening blinds, finding the perfect fit is easy. Get free samples, expert design help, and professional measure and install services, or DIY it with confidence and support every step of the way Shop up to forty five percent off sitewide right now during the fourourth of July VIP access sale at blinds. com Ill have a trivia for you. another one Is it true packs of camel cigarettes for Eisenower Filterless. Did you ever hear that? I did. Oh yeah. notot that prescient on the cancer. Kay Sumersby, his left arm, his right arm is his girl Friday I would r would ration them to them. You could get four and six a day or something like that. becausecause yes, and he drank pots and pots of coffee Did they ever talk about sports or anything like That would be in the movie like they're trying to like just get their mind off what's going. Is anyone like what's going on at the time in the world or is it all just about Iike like to talk about fishing. Oh he did, Okay. That's what he talked about fly f. like calm down. like just talk about anything else. And he played brridge. Yeah, of course. And he organized baseball and football leagues in his youth. Okay. I mean, he was a team player. There were very famous photographs before the airborne takeake off and you look at these pictures and you think you'll like one. Three and five of these guys They're not going to come back., it's so horrible. And you see him shaking hands with them and they're talking about fly fishing. is what they're doing. he was just a regular guy. And it wasn't an affectation. Yeah. I mean, he was the boss. definitely. Yeah. He wore those four stars on his shoulder Uh, And They way to peace is what someone saying to him Yeah, I see Yeah. because you think of Montgomery and Patton as being very theatrical, at least sis the way they're presented in really big egos In Eisenhower, at least it was presented as kind of the steady hand that like you said, created all this respect And there was, you know East Coast, West Coast, you know, Americans and the Yanks and the Brits, you know, you do it your way, we do it our way. We work together here come the Americans. you know, that's all and that's appropriate. That's right Yeah. But There's no room for any kind of like, you know, sociopathic approach when when the stakes are this high, you know we'll get boots on the ground no matter what, leeave it to me was U the, uh of an account of Montgomery's approach to it, but he, of course had been in Battles many, many more And he had, you know, a real ego about You're the new guy here, Ike., but you're also my boss. And yes, there was friction. had to have been. Was that fun Did you have some blow ups. Uh Dam and Lewis playing Montgomery versus Eisenhower are scenes where you're arguing and yelling , we but heads I think when you can tell it's around the office, but the the house that they were in kind of, in a way, they'd been locked there for weeks. they weren't allowed to come and go for you know, private secrecy reasons. You know, it must have been in one way, like, you know, some really weird summer camp for them. R. And I consisted on sleeping out in a tent with the men. that was also because They didn't want him in the building in case it got bombed. but a target, you know, But yeah, there's, you know, that headbutting and who's in charge here and who's pulling rank is certainly an aspect of it Montgomery was Um addedly anti anti smoking And would, you know, at that time would it was kind of like It astonishing someone you would ask someone to put their cigarette out, right? Right Yeah. Totally. It was ubiquitous and Um, I think I could would comply, but you know that it was like An issue around the office that day. S Whall are someone telling you to put your cigarette Yeah question Of course I do, ' I like that. There's You know this movie The Mummy, right Sure. No. Did you It's a rap. Is there another movie Is there maybe a mummy four? Yes More than maybe, did we get a banger here No, I think I heard that has it been announced Oh really Try not to smile. you could smile.id you mean is that exciting to go back? Yes, you're really That's great. Yeah, now we hear it. I'm looking forward to it. Well I've seen a smile. I can't even believe it. Well they're holding this. Don't you get Yahoo newews? I mean, my gosh. I it I'm so happy. Everyone, you know you do. And when was the last momommy that you did The last one? The third one was in China. It was the year that two thousand seven year of the R nine? two thousand nine or eightine an Emperor or something? Yeah Yeah NBC had the rights to broadcast the Olympics. and so they went, Oh, I got it, let's put the mummy in China. Is Tom Cruise gonna to do a cameo in this mummy Not to my knowledge. Okay Oh do a mommy? W you doing a mommy or something? He did one kind of cororrect He did do a mummy Yes, he did. St in your lane, Tom. Jeezs, Louise. He flew in on a F fifteen in a Ta mumy, right? It was more of an AC one thirty kind of looking thing I like Tom Cruz. He hangs off things, he holds his breath for a half hour. I mean, you just got to go I will watch this guy. He' risking his life toertainment. Hold my breath. And how can I jump off the plane And is he really running that fast? That's amazing He than me these days. He can run fast. So me, I'm so excited about that, you know Me too. I was going to ask you a question because I asked Chris Rock the other day, I saw it was interesting Um mailbox money, which which thing that you've done, you know, checks, residuals or whatever, which thing that you've done As you the most Yeah The least is more interesting, isn't it? Well, that tast is That's not better. What's the tiniest? Who's the cheapest? That's right. Rock likes to talk about what people earn and R. I do too. Yeah ye. He's very. He's got a yacht a boat. That like boat I like boats, he calls them're five hundred feet long. Yeah. He's been on everyone's boat, by the way. That f whoever loves him So what's your tiniest residual che? My tiniest residual check. I still I got one the other day from a film called Glory Days Ben Affler was in it was in the nineties. Really young when off. Yes. And I rode a bus in it for one day morning and I talk to someone else be honest to say, I never saw that movie, but I still get like you know, a thirteen cent check. Thteen sams. residuals You've been a resident manner all adds up are They' stapled up on the wall.? If they're under a dollar you get a free drink and they're all under. the ones I get from whatever Mummy, it's nice when you just get one out of the blue I get stuff from just shoot me probably that old sitcom. Yeah, Mike a couple of months ago. Yeahah, ' doing two more shrecks. Jesus. I just think this is a full circle moment because When last time you're on, we talked about Peak stardom and then injuries and all that, you know, dark side of the moon thing, then the whale. And and and now this, you know, in the other movie, these are kind of serious acting things and now you're full circle Do a mummy again. and you look great. Thank you. U Mies are That is kind of cool, right? I'm looking forward to. I mean, because you got beat up Hollywood beat the shit out of you for a while. You know, and I love I beat it back to But now it' now it's not only the Oscar, it's also the Tent poole Yeah billion dollar potential movie. Beeen it people who have been wanting Another one for twenty what four years. Yeah. Yeah. I've been hearing it. I go to fan conventions and I'm serious people show up dressed in costume likeike Evelyn Carnahan, Rachel character. there's Rick O'Connell's know than me Yeah that come through to get an autograph. I'm not there are I lost count of the number of young women who I've met who have said, I'm an Egyptologist, I am an archaeologist, I am a historian I have studied ancient languages because they saw the mummy and it you know it gave them so much dopamine when they were young and they went that's what that that's what I want to do and And theyurued it. I mean, it was a real real catalyst of U ring kind of And Rachel does a good job. I mean, so you guys go back and forth and that has to work and it worked. and so What was the problem for twenty years? I missed that part. Just the wrs went somewhere else or what happened for the last twenty years? about not ten years? Oh going back to two thousand seven actually Well, I don't know we break it down Well, they made three. Usually things are trilogies. Yeah, the third one It's it's it's kind of it's sort of the problem child.. U okay, which had the strange elements that the audience were like, you know, you're giving me something that I You're tell me it's one thing and it's kind got away from what people like. I hate that. we can't do that. We did it in the other movie. They wantna see something new and then it's like You can't reinvent the wheel. want if you want to eat an Oreo, you want that cookie s tastes like. You want the band to get back together, which is what we are And the band is back together. Yes.'re getting the band back together Boldtil lookook, everyone's been approached. I hope they're available. Yeah. If I'm around, can you wrap me up and just have me come at you like that? I'm just in town, I don't need to be seen. I mean, you know, JJ you got to make a movie that's a. You know, you got to make movies. I mean, there's roller coasters of the mummy and Universal and here in Hollywoodight And it's a roller coaster ride of a movie, you know? And that's what people want. They want to get thrilled. They want to have a little blue scare. They don't really want to feel terrified. like they didn't really just witness a homicide or something, you know on screen. Right. I I wonder them I can do it again Well This is because some of the younger people who saw that movie then, now they have kids that they know kids my for sures will be blown away and grow up to be archaeologists. But were you injured on one of those? or what was the movie you got injured on? Oh, I' not lie. I'm just wondering about this one. Are you gonna be The first one I got choked out on day three or four from I think choked out A n. That. Oh, that's right. You to it. I've talk about this I mean,mo is in his context For this movie now, are they going to choke you out again? Don't let him. That's not a bad idea actually. We should You need a good j. joke. Let's joke looks like you. he's very athletic. If you need a stunt double, just cut. Brandon, go to your trailer Now I will hang this guy. I'll be the first to say, Bra, you're going to be great in this show. You're going to be great Well, are you going to have to run through tunnels and are you to have to Are you going really train for this or you're just fine you are. You're looking at a work You're looking at a work in progress right now. You're doing my best when I saw you is that you looked fit. Oh, thanks. I'm trying to get my gear together here. and I got some time Um, um how long have you got like sixty seven like eighty days or something like that. eighty days? eighty days around the world in that amount of. I know ye. I tried to make that movie that's another story I think it's nice that you go to do some because it's comedic. so it's good that I was going to say earlier, You're doing these comedies You do these dramas all the way to an Oscar. And these last two are, you know, I think it was a lighter on rental family And then pressure sound pressure pressure another And a g slapper. But just to go back to you're good at being light and funny and I think the mummy has a lot of that Let's be I hopeful. Thank you That' a tone. It's of what it does the mummy It's not slapstick, It's funny, but it's also for kids of a certain age. It's kind of cool. Yeah Its cool and it looks good. It's nostalgia Yeah a generation in its own right now too. with AI, could Mike and I make another Wayneesworld? Yes. Look, just take this out, this down, this here. Why bother? We should have Wayneworld come in Bl me I When's world makes the money? You know Will you play the Nemesis or if we do a Wen's World. W's World? Yeah.'m glad to. yeah. Yeah.. You're the ghost of Dwight D Eisenhower.ess. I said Hirbrain. That was another movie I made Airheads is what I'm saying. Air With Adam sayingra Saba. Yeah. Yeah. Bami. you brought him to show business. You I think it's the other way around. C on. Wh so happy to hear about the mummy and That's how I met Farley who was. I saw airheads there. I saw airheads sixtieth straight one over. on the square Theater we're doing S andL Time though No, no, I don't get it. because it was too contemporary. It was like now it's nostalgia. Now at the fan conventions, people show up in chaz derby outfits. I sign a lot of Oh' Farley a security gu Yes, he was. Why you can't go here back it up. He was one in Waynsorld Huh? He was one in Waynsor. Yeah, or two? Wsor two,. He pulled the guy's npple ring off in ahead. Iven' an airhead yet. how funny. He was I think it was Christmas scena two where I was doing. I was just talking casually And then occasionally I would girls would walk by a string. So anyway, I don't know. We may go there on Saturday night, string, Sing I think sorry It was common new back then Disgusting. Well, anyway, this feels like after talking to last time with the whale, it just has all this beautiful thing now this. It's blowing my mind. I had no idea pressure and you get the moment And u Do you feel pressure by doing the mummy Yes But I do normally under any circumstances, whatever. Is that like putting on an old friend in a way when you get the gear on and there I am. You know, it's funny you say that because I Was that a fitting for a Western thing that I did a saga like nine years ago was about Texas Rangers and at the fitting pold the boots from Damn Deep freezes at Universal that I wore in the mummy brought them to the fitting And a sign or No, no, they were the boots, the riding boots, the Rrile boots from the mummy. Oh, and then you put ' them on. And I put them on, they still ' your feet don't change, right? The rest of you does. And I did get a real. That. I could smell the camel spit You know, it was really it was it was unique. Exactly. Exactly. You know where you're gonna to do it? Yeah, in Tanger in North Africa. Oh, it's a nest time of year. And the Uia. It's a coastal dry heat. Okay, good. Yeah. You know, it's the same and also locations that are, if not the then very similar ones from the first H. It are negotiated complepletely what you're going to get for Mummy for I haven't signed anything feel like an I got a feeling about pressure and that's going to put pressure on the negotiating team at Universal or is that where it's going I think pressure is going to do really well Let's be hopeful. It's a film D does show us what We need to remember about why The number of people who lived and died at that time made the effort to stop fascism. come in scourge of the world and it makes us Yeah ourselves today. to that time I will leave the audience to make their own summary judgment My hope is that we will be reminded, not just of the sacrifice of the reason Why? We were even fighting that war Well That's heavy and I also thought you' were gonna fall back in the chair the whole podcast. and that was my pressure. I was worried because every time he leans back. No, he's a natural That was a st That was a minimal fall. That was like Danny Kay. That seriously dude, this is look at how easy it is for him to fall back and it it's sort of inching out It was one ofair. It wasn' one of my favorite bits in audition. I was running out of ideas. I would throw myself up Oh yeah, all the time. Oh Oh he's so funny freaking back. Iused. Did't you do that? That's great you look like a hired Fancino man. Oh, that's great. You just threw yourself off I was wrestling with the plants in the room. How's eating them hiron Yeah, reallyally.ation went crazy. There were no lines. I I was a weird theater kid from Seattle, of course. Yeah Yeah. All right. well good lord.ot. Thank you for coming. It was very pleasure of you Dane is going look at this may twenty nin Toilet mayay twenty ninth. I always like to get that out there. I don't know. M twenty ninth. may twenty ninth. So it's in like, yeah, I don't know when this airs twenty twenty eight, I think, sure is Theatra Yes, theaters. Remember theaters everyone? Theaters big See it in a theater. Fun to go see. It's it's It's it's a cinematic experience. It's, you know, it's British filmaking in the sense that this is what they do, the detail. Yeah you know, it's ifary. Yes. she'll she it in the theatre We'll see it in the lounges. Tonight We see it in the cinnapplexes. I don't know if I'm JFK or No Winston Church I was doing JFK U anyyway, u