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Did you go through any incarnation where you dressed in something different or You are always th right up like mean, I've been a recovered drug addict most of my life, so that is the prop that never leaves you. It's always go toable. That's that monkey on your back if that's not a prop. I mean, Davaveid's the best to be around. E everybody loves him. He's a funniest. Every says he's a funniest. So how does that when you hear that Dana, how does that make you feel? It's hard to sprein this back Holy shit. What's up guys? I like your shot. S see, Why are we all tight up? I we like dog shit. I don't know. I'm on the bad side of fifty. I thought y'all looked better. I thought y'all were gonna look worse, honestly. Yeah. Oh we got tools. We have tools. I knew you'd wear a baseball cap. That's why I did this Oh, thanks, man Your hair is crazy in this movie. Your hair is wildly Awesome. and bus Bys Yeah, I mean, it's pretty l. I mean, it's definitely's cut crazy Didn't they put a lot of product in? I mean, it looks like extra extra. I mean, nothing like urban, notothing that would get me accepted in like, you know, in the urban community see you? Yeah herb that would get me into it. Oh, I thought I said herb like in peppers or something. you know Pinut Theres nothing like a funnier way Do has Theo has the hair for about six people. It's like There's a sprout over here and there's crops over here. It's just there's so much going on. In the movie, I remember he came out with One day with like a little stash, she's like, maybe What if I don' stash and I go Yeah, that wouldn't be back because it still looks like you We don't want to shock people with a total D Niro transformation, but then he came out a minute later he goes, yeah, took it off. This would have been good for Theo. I wrote a character once in a movie that shaved his or took his eyebrow off and then put it down and pretended and glued it and pretended it was mustache Oh yeah. well we've I think that's a common prison experience is people you know, transferring hair amongst each other for for different uses, but I was on a cruise one time and they had like a costume party and we didn't have any u We needed a mustache and we didn't have any So this Brazilian guy had a bunch of good hair and so he cut us off probably a couple grams of hair. And we had baggy. Yeah, just yeah, just to get us through the evening, you know. Just under the legal amount I thought that would be a conversation stopper that was com No way. Steal comes up. Well, of course we had mustaches glued to us on a boat. What are you thoughtking? There's a guy had a mustache in the movie and when we walk out of frame Theo goes, I like he's got those prison curtains or something. And I was like, Theo always comes up with something to say Pison. And Dana was saying one of the big laughs because you know, when Nate Diaz beats up the car, we're not going to talk about the movie the whole time, When N Dz beats up the car Natean and Chris. And we're just standing there. We have nothing to say and then just watch the action. then Theo goes Hey Fz we're going to get some Pizza is, medium pizza Yeah, that made me like it ld whole thing because it's so I knowt something about it It's so specific and gentle versus all their weird violence. And just why would they need that information? That's a theos's whole thing. When there's years questestions it gets funnier. like those guys were those guys were alarming, I think and theyarming is a good sive word for what they were on the W they scare you for realels a little bit? because don't they just punch people. I think they grew up in an asbestos home, maybe even. Yeah, heavy lead probably. Pencils everywhere. unlim there's probably boxes of pencils in the walls. Different kinds of fungus in the freezer. fungi Wevils mld. whoo knows what's what they've been through? Yeah, they've been through a lot. but when they came to set Theo did get a little giddy. It was like they're here. So we went over there to make them feel at home like we do with everybody We come say hi And then that was a day. they beat up someone and threw them in the trunk I don't know if they know They're not supposed to actually beat someone up So we have to say pretend beat up, which is not really what they do and Wherere they from Stostockton? Is Yeah, they're from Stockton and it is a Fist first community up there up there. That's just a license place Fist first in this town N always San Francisco is shocking. So I was in the Hate Ashbury. We were flowers first, sorry. Yeah. You're on Polk Street No. Yeah whereere you down there? Were you down there? What were you doing down there? Coodling down there under the bridge? C laundry mat turned into a comedy club called The otherther Cafe, corner of Carl and Cole right in the Hate Ashbury H That o, I'm going to tell you a story, Dana, and Theo, you can listen good. I have twenty seconds When I was just a tike And I came out from Arizona to stay at my mom's house and try to do standup. I I had seen a comic and Arizona, the first one I saw to an hour, donon't guess And he was great And I was like, is he making this shit up? It's like comedy is so I was only doing amateur nights, but I'm like, this is so craz to see a guy do a whole hour. I'd only seen Guys on late night talk shows do five. So anyway, he talks to me, my friend knows him. He says, if you' ever in LA say hi, of course, I thirstily hit them up, which is like the worst thing you can do because they don't really mean it. But he's like, hey, let's go walk on Westwood I drove my mom's rabbit, you know, we had And so anyway, we're there and he goes, we should go see the wrath of Kan. This is such a specific story I remember because it was traumatizing. Should we guess who the comedian is? No, no, no doubt. I want to both know. you both know. Okay, you'll figure it out. So then I go. Oh, we' we're in Westwood. I got to run home it's about I think I can make the movie. I gott to take a shower. He goes here Now What gentleman says to a new friend? You can take one here, but of course, me, probably Kevin Spacey, I'm a guest. How are you putting guess early? Don't jump ahead. Sorry. Innocent, sweet, adorable me. Hm It's like Tim Dylan in the movie because we don't understand what's going on. So anyway, here I am He goes take a shower at my house. I go, Oh, No alarms went off, no red lights. Okay So I go in the shower I hear M door open. I'm like this G Did you get the P plus that you finding everything? Am I finding everything? I found the water coming down I found the soap He goes, need any help? I go, help Sir. I've taken so many showers at this point I've almost got it down pat And he just stays in the bathroom. The bathroom's this big and the curtains here. he's in the other side going So all systems go, We're doing great. We're going to make the movie. I'm like I can hear you from outside theor And then but of course, no alarms looking back traumatized because Then I finished and he lost interest in the movies.'s like, we can still go if you want him like That was a whole point, right? He has K this shower So so he was Native American. I don't know I'm going slow motion like they do on Instagram. It's funny So we go to Rathic Kon, which is fucking I w I don't want to give it all away, Oh, I like that. Ricardo Malibon. Are you going the compos at the end of this story. What is this? What I'm what I'm thinking is Ladies and gentlemen, the molestable David Spade. We did a movie dram called The Molestibles.. I had two situations like that. So we go. This is how it happens. This is how No it just kind of shocked me. It was just a comedian friend at my apartment, whatever. Yeah, see you later. just Yeah. And then I've taken a shower. He's gone You know, and then suddenly he's in the bathroom. He what's up? I mean, same kind of story. I'm like, what And then another one, I was in an apartment and this guy got the wrong idea. He was a script supervisor on the show I was doing. He knocked on the door He walks, he's supposed to deliver a script. He walks right past me There's a loft. He sits down on the bed,ops starts taking his shoes off. just like that And I had to kind of go, I think you got the wrong idea. I mean, what would you have said in that situation, Theo? I was tongue tied. Well, he's taking his shoes off and what are you doing? you're just kind of standing there and what And what's your motivation in the scene not get laid Gently explain to him, feeling mostly empathetic of like, you got this all wrong. I he turned right red. He was humil. at the door. you're still like. No, I mean I my shoes off too. We sat Wait a second. Wait a. No, but it was I felt bad for him instantly. It was somet I wasn't leading the guy on a little bit. It's hard to get someone out of a bean bag chair to be honest Yeah, yeah. You gott to pull ' them, they gott to roll off. I was clickbait then. I had blonde bangs. I look like a child. Click bait I was so hot. I got kidnapped almost. When I was in a mall when I was a kid because I had no way I had Bonde long hair, I was about ten. honestly, it was almost entrapment. I was so fucking cute. look Early H alone McCul Culkgan, like the last one And I was just like Tro in this guy. I'll tell you later to you, but this Yeah. Let's stay with this theme. No we're doing good here, but imagine. but we're doing good here. Iagine. Let's stay with this theme Go ahead Imagine some pedophile picking up one of you chatty Cathies, dude. They' have been like, I got to get They had dropped you back at the mall. we're in the van and he's like, Is this story almost over? We gott to stop. I'm like keepe going around the mall dude I got more to say. He's like, boy This is one long run on sentence there's just no, there's no perfect way to get sexually assaulted, I guess is something to say, you know, And that I think we can all agree. Let's look at a clip. All right. No To you think you guys would have made it in the Epstein files or not? Let's get real about it. Let's get political. Let's get political. To's whole thing is let's toe into politics and then run away and go What What? It's like the water touch me. B finding everything in there? God, you're walking them. You're walking the crowd D to come back I would just want for the b.. By the way When I first saw Theodana There's Epsy, he's got a little puppet Witness protection. That's not Epein. That's Jeffrey Epstein. this is crazy Yeah so that's it. So I wanted to use the puppets we' see know what's going on. his show has no fucking puppets. It's flatlining. I love that. I love the puppet idea you know what? you know what will say this when I first started doing comedy, you'd find more men with puppets and with u you know, on stage and Aalia with the you'd find more manen doing a guitar act. A lot of that has disappeared That's true. A lot of song parodies I used to love I had it I had a trunk because Robin Wills had a trunk. I had a trunk. I'd go to a toy store and get things I had a gumbie doll. And I would just hold it up and say, ladies and gentlemen, gumby, and then I would just stretch it and go. Huge laugh. I see it. That's like atch armstrong gum babave. So you never worked with props. Did you go through any incarnation where you dressed in something different or You are always Theo right up like. I've been a recovered drug addict most of my life. so that is the prop that never leaves you. It's always go toable. That's that monkey on your back if that's not a prop. You look like. Here's Theo's first stand up set. Hi. When I was in third grade, my teacher was an ocelot Eone's like, how many people are at this Tiny town, Covington Well, here's I will say this crazy story is that u David shot Joe Dirt, in the town that I grew up in And I would would you go watch the movie getting made whereere you Itust a little kid then or something. Yeah. Well I saw the first the first one I remember seeing the first one And I didn't know that whatever I'd washed it on, we washed it on an intercom. We didn't have regular audio at the house.ure. And so we had to we washed we had to listen to an intercom Well, wait a minute The sound for the TV came over in intercom because we lived in part of an old school Yeah, right you go ahead. Well, it was just the way it was set up. how of st there. Yeah. All right. You guys want to blame a child. You guys want to judge a child But it sounds like heaven compared to my childhood, but it's not a competition.. But anyway it's not a competition. But anyway, so it was hard to tell and everything kind of sound like a documentaryies. I remember the first time I saw Uh Jod, I thought it was a documentary. I thought this young man had been left at the u It was like a d almost like a dateline episode or something that was really long And it was like this young man had been left at the Grand Canyon by his family And so we were always looking for David when I was a kid. likeike we were like nice. Oh trying to help out Yeah. likeike have has anybody seen him or whatever? We dw pictures of them around town, like look for him or whatever Anna But anyway, yeah, so when I so years later, I learned there was an actual film And that Dave was an actor. He let me down before I even met him. Um, because yeah, I was always one in the missing child spade, you know, the one that was just The chatty cat definitely more interesting the chatty cat Chatty cat is cat a funny phrase. But anyway, So but anyway, it was just ironic that years later he shot that in the town that I'm from and then u yearsars later that we that we became friends and that we wre busboys together Packing for a weekend lake trip means managing a massive checklist. And the last thing I want to do is fight the crowded store aisles for snacks and drinks That's why Instacard can help me with my busy schedule I use the app to get pre cut fruit. Oh hold drinks. Y, sandwich ingredients ready before we head out. 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Number one with a blg bullet You know, when I heard about Theo because they just said this guy is a mullet and that's that's enough to get me in the building. And I think I talk to Theo withithout Amig get and some other people in the hallway at the comedy store Definitely a long time before I saw Zack. I already An on his sort of unique unicorn type of humor, which you don't see a lot. You know, you see a lot of funny people, but You don't see like an interestnteresting more one of a kind thing and then I was laughing anyway and then went by the time I saw his act, I saw you one time at that COVD in the round Sarateella show. what is that called? Oh yeah, suuper Nova That place was crazy and they're like, we're going to pay you like two thousand dollars. We'll have to pay you at midnight. We're going to pay you was money Yeah, it was like a Nigerian guy will email you. you're like, this is Yeah, we're going to pay you in pecons, which are going up during COVID And then he yeah, wait, let me tell you one of hises. Good day. Dana, let him do his story. I know I like to interrupt doing. Yeah, neverever mind, then do it. No these like it gets to five I win something. It it's a polymarket thing. Go ahead. I think Dana, I was just saying like early on one of the I think he's Nicaraguan, so he says Where my knickers at That was funny. And then I think you said something about if you were ever reincarn you go, I heard about I was talking to someone about reincarnation the other day and You know what? I think I'm gonna do it. That was like Funny that it was going gonna to be your decision And then things you would come back as what race? Yeah, somebody Race Yeah wouldould you come back And Mexican is what I landed on after much landed A much debate discussion with my Lord and Savior I have if Mexicans will have me, that's what I'm gonna to be next time. Yeah. I think it's a good move that five two nation Yeah, dude, that's it they are, bro. five two nation, dude. You get to be the same height as your girlfriend. That's the beautiful thing about being in Mexican. Oh, it's a big advantage. Dude, Heather is laughing at every single one of your jokes. I know it's great. This this is killing is the hardest He Usually twenty minutes go by before we hear a giggle, but this look at Heather and she's like this. She's used to all of our stuff Yeah, she's like this. Ceen No, he did that And then even in B Boys we're writing and putting together the stupid movie, but That's number four on Amazon I' in u Also when there's some jokes in there peopleeople were like did theo just make that up? I'm like some he did, but some He makes up while we're writing it And they sound like they're just made up win Leah McKendrick who plays Romina who actually I don't know if you know this the st. she wrote directed it a Rom comm on Netflix Did you really? Yeah, voicemails for Isabel. It's number one right now in. Did you know that? I don't know, she was great in the movie, but she We're introducing ourselves and she says, I'm a sagitarist, blah, blah blah, and then Th theog goes two adult males And I see so anytime it's like that, you know, it's a theo joke because I wouldn't have written that joke for him. I would He just says something different on almost every take And then you have to say, which one should we use? Yeah David has David has all the jokes in him, right? So you have to trick him. You have to do something' like, oh, I couldn't I wouldn't have done that, right? I think that's like a lot of ways with most comics. you have to find something that they like I don't know. That's how comics get impressed. likeike, o, I That wouldn't have like Oh he tricked me. Yes because I would have written something maybe more normal, but that's the beauty of like there's some stuff that's more my humor And the combo is more fun Gastillo is one of the funniest guys I know. so so funny. And so when he puts those things in there, We just all laugh. when we cut because you don't know coming out. And that's what people, I think, wanted to see from him And That's the hard That's hard. he does a great job with that Well, that's nice to you. Yeah. I don't believe I believe you believe what you're saying. Yeah. I don't believe the nice. No it's a lie, but I do sort of believe it Look, kid, we gott to get you back to the mall, man. This is getting there I am in the mall. and's that's your happy place. Yeah, my mom would drop us off You know, in those days, she drop us off ten AM pick us up at six. I mean Good eight hour chunks. You give me a quarter in case everything went sideways, but No one blanked. There's no moms on Facebook going by I saw Judy Spade dropping. No, no one gave a fat fuck and they were like, what a great idea. getet rid of these fucking kids The mall was so fun I want them in the card store And for some then my mom came in a few hours later. I don't know if she's in there And this guy who's like, which is not old now, it's not old. to that to when I'm ten, it's old And not my type at all. He comes up and he goes, Hey A you Hey, do you want to go You want an ice Ice cream cone And I go And I go, couldould it be a n First on like, no ice cream Like, why am I bartering? It's the it's like winning the lottery. Of course I won it. There's no red flags, there's no tingling. So I go, of course And I go, could it be a snow cone? And he goes, What are you waiting for, sir? I'm going to be chained to a radiator in five minutes. There's no ice cream or snow cone. What do you care? Th it's second eat's hard to eat ice cream by a radiator it's all hot. It's melting. fast. I'm like, dude You waited a hair too long because then my mom says, Hey, and I go Oh, there's my mom. realal quick, I should get my windbreaker. and He goes, no, no, no. And I go, Hey, mom, I'm gonna buzz by this guy with his band. We're gonna to grab. And she's like, No, you're not And I like, hey, dude, M says no going and he's like Like, we had a deal I didn't know how traumatizing it was for him. because he had me on the hook And then I was like, oh, and I'm just bummed. I didn't get snow cone out of the hole. Well, you hate to lose a good kid that you don't know that well. That's got to be tough for that guy. Yeah when you're just he could have been innocent But it's got toa be a lot for these guys to drive all the way over to the mall. You know what I'm saying? Clean out their van first, probably some of them, maybe the decent ones. Just the gas Yeah, the gas alone of being I they got they're going to drive you like a hundred miles at least after Oh yeah, we got to drive in circles while I yeap fucking abalanche So what happened like the next weekend at the mall with you? I mean was there I don't know. either. I wasn't as hot. I don't know I wasn't getting the attention I deserved Yeah., I got a funny story about the So we're at this Netflix brunch a couple weeks ago Ted's house. Oh yeah, dude, it was crazy. All of like the people you ever even have seen that made you laugh or there Everybody from Comed Uer It was, you know, hing arounde. And Dana was invited just so the record knows headad even hit me up twice and Bring D day and bring D ina and I said You were actually maybe going to be in town, Dan, then you know I've weirdly injured my back because I was traveling That's right. That's right. And all the suitcase stuff, a rolling suitcase on carpet for a half mile. carpet then I found out about this guy who could just do all that in Malibus. that's why I wasn't there. I would have been there would have dominated Oh yeah, He would. So here's me and Theodore and then And Bobby Lee and then we see Kate Hudson And so yeah. she says, I've seen that guy on something. And I said, Yeahah, I go I go, you should meet him. He's really nice. So I say, Theo You want to say hi. And here's where Theo cracks me up again He comes over. he's cutting a gu hiss arm straight and stiff total weird. And then she goes, Ohh hi, blah, blah. And then he's like, whereere you? Comington, blah, blah And then we're under this tent. where it's only like seventy But outside of the tent, he's standing in the sun and it's about ninety, right And she goes, you look hot, You have long sleeve black shirt on. He goes, Yeahah. And she goes, it's colder under the tent. He goes, Yeah, I know but there's no signs There's no signs to tell you it's colder under the tent. Oh yeah. Well, that's a problem That's why I prefer graffiti. I prefer areas with graffiti because you get more information. That's why I like living in those neighborhoods that was cool B meeting Kate Hudson, dude. Yeah Oh my go. you is the bell of the ball. We go around and All these cute girls like, Is Theo coming? I'm like, who cares about Theo? Yeah, he's in the bathroom right now, touching himself. Give him a couple minutes. give him a second. By the way before he gets three he likekes dudes I don't like dudes. but I saw you singing with Ella Langley, who's this really pretty country star Dan and he was coach And yeah And she invited him up and he jumped around, little fruitity at parts, but overall He was with a girl. so it was sort of cloaked a bit And that was good and it was Viral because everyone's like, where's theies that stage coach, I heard I go, lookook at this guy. The boy can get around. So what happened there? How did that happen? They she just um, well, she and I are friends and so then she well she'd invited me to do her like The part in the song is a man's part Okay. So you've got to get a man and then They shed offered it to me a couple weeks earlier at some other place at on the Rymen here in Nashville. Yeah. And I wasn't ready. I didn't I didn't hadn't practiced my lines So then u Anyway, the story is bad. I saw a Whre we're on the commercial right now Okay,. I saw her not long after that. And she goes, well, if you're I wish you're going be a stage coach next weekend, 'cause I'd have you read the lines over there and I said, why, I'm gonna be over there. And so that was it And so then, yeah They just Yeah, it was it was it was cool out there, dude. I've never been a singer ' I'm not a singer C 'cause I'm in an other age group, but could you give us a sample of the song? Could you give us just about three or four minutes Three or four justust like one line, like what was it? Like, I love you baby or what? No, it's u Let me think. Oh, it's like, u Well, I walked into a bar across the Right across the tracks. Um, or it's like I walked into a methadone clinic and Right across the tracks, it was No hold on, let me think I just turned my chair around. Okay No, that means I like you. No, I'm liking this. Yeah. I like This is I've never heard Theeo sing. That's and that's what we don't want to get to here. That's what I'm avoiding. Okay. Well, Theeo, didn't you talk a little and then you sing? Is that how it is? Yes, you have to talk. It's like I'm, you know, I walked into a bar and the prettiest little thing I'd ever even seen in a pair of boots And she and she looked at me And I looked at her. Yeah, something like that. I can't remember the. Yhead I don't know the lines right. L looks Johny Cash. It's basically Johny Cash Very much. It's John. Yeah, Johnny some currency. Um I don't know if it's a US dollar Don Pesos. It was a guy from Latin America. He did a good job. People loved it. and I would went went viral Yeah, I will tell you a funny story about it though My friend wrote the cards, He wrote all the words down on the cards, right? So he's standing right off stage with the words because we've been we've been practicing 'ause you're up there with Ella. Lyingley, man, and she knows what she's doing. She's professional You know, and I'm amateur And so my buddy, we had him write all the work, we wrote all the lyrics on the cards. So he's standing off stage with all the lyrics. Well, he starts getting mad, but when I got up there, I felt good and I felt some confidence So he's standing off stage and he starts shaking the cards likeike, bro, look at the cards. And I'm like, trying to give him like, I don't need the cards, you know, But he got upset that I didn't like wasn't he kept like the shakeaking up Yeah It's like dude, I'm not looking at the cs becausecause I don't need the cards. Yeah got. Yeah, your're second it's your backup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're there in case of emergency. Yeah, in case of emergency but it is scary. It's better. It's like SNL, you know you have cards if you need them You don't want to have to go to him. Did you guys ever get stuck in a spot where you had to go to the cards or was that pretty common? I think we're always on cards to be honest Well, you go to the cards a lot. I once once time I was playaying Keith Richards And I took such a long pause, but I did it for comedic effect But the card guy was doing what your guy did. He's shaking it like and point at it come on He thought I spaced out, you know? Yeah But yeah, we gott to get you hosting S and now. I can't wait. I bet they've asked you, what'd you say now I remember Yes Theo I guess it was no because you didn't do it I don't remember what happened exactly. Yeah.'s I did get to go over there one night. I got to go to the y'all' fiftieth anniversary of the It's right of the show David was there And Um Who else was there? Bill Murray was there? Were you there, Dana? No, I kind of felt like you were my surrogate when I heard you were going. I figured Thee's my guy. Hes represents me that night. I took your spot. No, I wasn't there. Dan Ackrod, Bill Hadater and I watched it together That's weird. whyy would you not just go there instead? No, I don't dig too deep Okay sorry I was getting over sorry. I was still not feeling one hundred percent I had the flu, Wick could flu That's the real story. Not very exciting, but how Where you? in your fame ladder right now, like seemeems like when I first you were on David's show, like how big were you when you first went on lights out? L where were you Like, was that a big deal to go on David's little show? I mean Did anyone ever see it It was fun. I don't know if anybody saw that show. I think some people did no, I'm kidding. I love the show, by the way. Yeah, I thought the show was good for sure. I mean, Dave is the best to be around. E E everybody loves him. He's a funniest. Everybody says he's a funniest Mhm So how does that when you hear that, Dana, how does that make you feel? It's hard to spin this back with 'causeuse you' so really be so close to being in that fun. Really angry and then sad And then I just practice gratitude. I take deep breath. grratitude No one you have your own lane. No one does what you do, Theo. So you're the funniest guy who does what you do. Does anyone do what you do? David has his own soft fl. very verbal patteratter that's really low five but very funny all the time. Yeah, you never expect what he's going to say kind of any and he just knows so much and you're shocked by how verbose his awareness of things is. Oh my, He probablyably one of the most aware guys. You mean about darkness and stuff Well, Oh yeah, I'm not even sure what verbose means I think it's kind of a good one though. I think it's some it's speakers. we're selling speakers. But but no, just his awareness, like he just like he's so like up on like just whatever the current events are. He just has all the Patter. I's got pattern Yes, he's very deexter. He doesn't just bring one weapon to the thing. like Dexter always had like a ton of weapons and like. you know, he'd be a the he'd be the most he'd be the Michelangelo of killers, you know Right. I if we got to hang out with Dennis Miller, you would like that too. Dude I we did a fight Oh you did. Okaykay. It was was the best. I got to sit right in between them, dude. Oh yeah. so they would go like that, right? Yeah Y. best threesome I've ever been in, honestly. Yeah, it was Dennis mumbling jokes on one side of me on the other. And we were all hilarious. and I mean, we werere all laughing the whole time because Theo says stuff. And Theo' like new to the whole thing and just everything is fun and exciting. Theeo, I went to the Rond Rousy fight I don't think I don't think you were there, but I was in the second row, Dana White always puts in the front row It's such a world of difference because the second row. I told Dane and I had Michael Irvin in front of me. all takes one person it's over. like He stands up' like full eclip. I Is the fight still going on because he stood up for anything Tie the gloves up Let's end of round up Beginning of Rrou up, I'm an athlete. Yeah. So that when John's Bones Jones was there too. I love yeah, he used talk What a bad ass. So anyway, Theo and I had gone to the fights a few times that one time we got Lost, Theo got frustrated because u I had a driver But the guy wasn't there. We were late remember The driver spoke a language that no one's ever spoken. No, and it's not racist because I never saw his face so I'm not but I was in the back and I thought it was my driver, but I didn't know theo called an Uber So we're in the SUV and I go just go to the back entrance like We said and then he goes Oh no, that's for special I go No, I know, we're going to the back. He goes, No, that's VIP special. I go Well, what about us? And he goes, you know, special. Yeah. He kind of glanced Niges now no special here And then we go, no, no,. We're getting more mad because he won't I go, actually Actually, it'd be great if you're going to the front. We need to go to the loading doces. No, very special. Yeah. And this is just a recreation of what happened, but it's not And then And I was showing him pictures of David like in all his like I'm showing like Ticky Roberts. I'm like is Ticky Roberts one to ring the bell. But anyway, it goes Oh, he goes he's in sitcoms and stuff and movies. He goes Oh, you're in a a sitcom now I go. Yeah, why not this second he goes, No special And we got out in the street because we weren't getting get close. And then we got out. And I think that was the first time I realize how famous Dia was because so many people were coming up, especially to fight And we had to wait for them to send someone to give us our tickets And people kept coming up And It's the first time where you can see it for both of us, it starts to get a little nerve wracking because You're stuck. You can't keep moving because they're waiting So then he goes, let's just walk to the back And I'm like, well, they're not going to they might not let us in and then we're going to There's already the guy the front with our tickets. So We sat there and everyone means well. It's just when they get around you because they're Fight fans, you know bored and we're just standing and there' like, hey, blah blah, blah, right? Yeah everyverybody was kind of bored It was just like, ye, you're just waiting in line kind of. So it was like a lot of But that driver, he just did not think we werere special enough to drop usself in a decent area. Yeah. And he kind of dropped us off in like a used person area. I was like that's even worse than just regular He goes, Oh this part of the median. I'm like ye That guy. Yeah. We got out in the middle of the street. Yeah But David David it like, Kning David there hass been such a like just even getting to go to USC like I got to sit in the front row because of David. That was awesome Um you know, just some of the relationships that I got to build over there. Dana White did a really nice thing for our movie actually U, Oh, that's right that I don't know if we can say it or not, but he He saw that we had made it ourselves and made it with our own money and he called us one day just out of the blue Can we even say that Davan? I think so. yeah, he didn't care cut it. And he said he he said he was going to make some make some some commercials for us and put it in some of his during the fight before the main event. And I and then I forgot. because I thought, well, what if it doesn't happen? I don't want to say anything because also He's the boss, but you know, whatever. And then my friends like, I'm watching the fight dude, they're showing bus Boyys trailers. That was really cool, Dana because because Sto Originally When we' looking for money I tried DanX. I'm like, Dana White's rich and this is his bar tab. so I can just ask for a little bit. and he goes, you know, I don't mind this idea. Let me. L to my guys. giveive me a couple days And then Theo goes, hey Oh, I just got a guy that's going to do it. called dies a day, and don't worry about it. and then So that's who was kind of aware of it I can't read it yet, he just goes o, I like the idea of you and Theo doing a movie. And then We had a guy, Ezra and then we We kind of got it going then But it was it was a long road, but Yeah, it was a lot. I mean, I'd never done it before It's a lot of work It's a lot of stuff that you guys do. People don't realize a lot of it You know, I think it some of it probably seems easier than it is from the outside. But yeah putting it all putting it all together. I mean, we put it all together. I couldn't even believe it was real. I mean, writing it was one thing. It was like We would keep find ourselves in these problematic areas with the script where things didn't make sense. And I think some of the movie still doesn't make a little bit of sense. Yeah. But that's fine. You got to suspend disbelief right? Well, for that low budget, I've never done for that low budget and you don't get a full Teline on that. I mean we We had the problem with Joder two where They were taking out budget during the shoot, which is impossible. mee and Fred are going We have to lose a set piece. Well that brings us from here to here. we're That was a time jumping because We had to becausecause we're like, thenen I jumped ahead three years and Ione was like, huh But we had to this one It was just they had the fires were going and it was A lot of wind one day we couldn't really shoot. Yeah. and It's just those things when you're outdoors and It's very commal ated And we weren't screening it. so we just We're like asking two people, we kn, does this make sense to you? And then we figured out a few questions and we went back and reshot a half a day and just said This will answer a couple things. And so far, honestly to you, I get probably eighty percent Pe that it's almost like they really like it or hate it. There's almost no in between. These people that love it and watch it four times And then there's about ten percent that absolutely fucking hate it. Yeah. And it's not even it's not even a toss up. They're like, This is the word F minus. They don't need to throw the minus. We've talked about this F is fine. just go to G if you're going that low. like Yeah making a musical scale. Yeah. Do you have a Rotten Tomato score? Do you have a score on R to Thank God because why not have a audience score? They said there's not enough reviews, Not enough reviews to come Yeah, because you that's good or bad. St It's good. That's I don't know what it is, but Ive never heard of it before. Well stududios send it to be seen and screened And we don't send it anyone So there's like Internet people that go, hey, I just saw it and they might say something, but it's not enough for rotten tomato. So we just have like a seventy five percent audience Really? Do we have That's? I think that's good. That's like seventy five percent of my family liked it. twenty five percent were like We shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff. We thought you were doing stuff with the church now. Yeah. this was didn't pull punches with the R rated. You guys did you write stuff and go, Ohh, we can't do that. Was there anything off limits? The greatest thing about the writing was we would get into some real cul deacs and I would literally tell David and it would seem like he was not going to be able to get us out of it And then he would come up with the idea Anybody No, that was asking for that was wr Yes, I wrote it, but most of the I was the stenographer. I was the court reporter. That's what I was. Well, you need someone physically do it. and sometimes I'd say That was me. I was the minor. David was the jeweler, you know, the guy You know, he was the guy with the you know, he was the guy with all the gemms. I was just the guy who was like talk st. Theo' on the road and we get on the Zoom, but we did laugh our fucking asses off. And it's funny. If you see a scene, it's not that funny, me ande are like, That's so great.' like, is it But you know, you write it, then it goes through different form and then we're like, oh, we hit a wall like Well, how do we get the drugs and how do they get? How did you come up with the I don't for the people haven't seen it, but the acidity thing of where you have that thing in your car and it identifies what kind of Animals you're hitting. That was that was the roadent radar very like like rodent radar. Yeah. They should It's not fair that we live in twenty twenty. one or whatever and you look and you're driving and you don't know what kind of animal you just hit. Yeah It is It's not. Where's Tesla? Where's Yeah What is this here What is this? Little house on the prairie? likeike what Thank you. like what is going on Right, because we were hitting things But we didn't realize they were drinking water that was laced with cocaine I don't think anyone realized that at the end of the movie. we looked this That's kind of smart when you realize that's what it is because Cocaine is getting lost in the water and broken up. and Yeah, that was a lot There's some unanswered questions. People are clamming for a sequel. 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They just said people that that's how they're like Here's how we live, Paul Let's go to the mall, Paul It's fun to play a character that says Pa. Not like Hllead of blind girl.o like the blind girl Mary? what was her name? Yeah, well, she got kicked by a horse, David Is that that's not what happened. She got acid then on her by a She got assid. What do you think she was at like a what like one of those like a Rufus Dsal concert or something She was rob about Oh, she was it is robbed of her pelts than they threat No, I don't know. I'm trying to get us out of this. I'll just be in the audience for a second. What are you guys talking about? This This sounds like the movie. Yes, We're writing in the movie. No, but this this was true though. I had to show up in Winnipeg last year. and I had a show up in Winnipeg last year After the show, they're like some of the cast of Little House in the Prairies here, they would like say hello and was like they would like to say hello And I watched every episode, I'd read the books So I even met Nelly Olson at a Starbucks when I first moved to LA. I was there was like two weeks. Villain. I know. And I was trying to like I wasn't trying toip with her but was like, I'll work at your house, I'll do whatever you need or whatever You know, like, I'll put I'll put stuff on the shelves at the mercantile. I'll do whatever you need, right? But anyway, they said the cast of Last N Prayer is there and the the the lady that played the mother This is the lady that plays Ma. and I gave her like the biggest hug. Like I was like, this kid like dolize just like character when I was a kid, you know Anyway, it's cute too U Yes, she's a really nice cool actress. Crosby is her name Fitz Gerald. Maybe I think is the actress? Oh, the original, but the new one is n name Crosby Fitzgerald Oh You know, u Nelly Olson should be on Villains that show. Is that what itays show's called Other Villains She was a good fil. By the way, Thea, this is off the record, but I got offered a gig in Mur Freesboro, Tennessee. Do you know what that is? Yeah, I never't been there though. I'd come though How far is it an hour from you Fty minutes, I dry. forty minutes. I'll do it. I thought it was way far. They said, Wait a minute, you're gonna to advertise this and say my friend Theo's gonna to drop by. I mean, no he's not I'm just asking howad the he office He's from Smashville.s got time I want to go to that zero tax state, man. What am I doing? I know That's the only bumber about LA. I love LA The has a little place here in Westwood, right? Yeah.' one hundred eighty one in Tennessee hundredy one much money. He's like Scrooge McDuck. He just sits on a pile of money everyhere That is not true, dude. if I I wish I could have some more money, but I just don't have any moreore If I had ears, I'd throw mine away. No, but I'm wcial. Dana, Theo has a special coming out. Do you have the name of it or when it's coming out Yeahet? We ha't decided on the name. I'm trying to figure that out right now. you guys have any ideas Um pick one of them actually, if you guys come with a g one. Oh yeah, that's good idea. We should And David also looks like David Dukovny today, which people we should say that Oh yeah, for people that aren't Watching not David D comeany Lick to. People confuse him a lot. I've been with him before. You know, I don't I just come up and whisper in his earss like, they're out there. How about this for a title. What's up y'all whatever I wanted to think of the worst title scbling him man. I want to think of a title where he would What' I al already use that one. I that one Wow We were going to call this podcast Rackam Oh yeah, Rack. That was David's r day after you knock a ball in a cub Rackam. What were your previous specials names M Oh, um No offense was one of them Yeah, it's not very good. And the other one was called Y one Yes,. How about some taken Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. Some taken. That's another ex files reference, isn't it? David Duovny? I believe that's about people getting abducted, dude. It never ends today. Wking it Wking it out, y'all. Working it out, y'all. No, no snap to it. No, I think it's good, man. I just I love. Yeah. I don't know. I got to listen through one more time. I've been doing the editing and stuff. Oh no, that must drive you fucking bonkers. Well, it's all bonk. I mean, it's just like, I mean, even with bus booys, it was like we had to do a lot of the, you know, we had editors, we had a u a great director and it's like we had great people, but in the end if you're like producing it and stuff, you kind of have to make a lot of choices And, you know, it was tough. So we would go back and forth D, like he made it in the it for a while Yeah And then we look at it and then we go. But I was always careful like if it's a theo joke I didn't want to just take it out Unless I was like, oh, I don't think you'd want this one in. but sort of you want to go I don't want to be in charge of his joke. in case he likes it If he took one of mine out It's easer to cover each other to make sure you don't look stupid, but some are so weird. There's a thing where you're You're with the guy in the wheelchair And you're going on and on. And that's some people's favorite thing. And you just made all that up while you're doing it Commitment Yeah, I I probably could have had a better. I get used to editing your own podcast. So we'll go through, you know, I'll watch everything and I'm sitting there giving notes. and so I probably could have done a better job. I think I probably there was probably some of David' joes. I was like, I don't think he It know for sure. I like and I was like probably should have asked him before just like taking some assumptions Um But then there were some parts it was like, I just don't maybe this angle doesn't look great or something. It's like you want to make your boy look good. Um And then But yeah, I learned a lot, man. I learned a lot about like I don't know. sometometimes you want to learn lessons easier ways, you know, but you learn them when you're in the fire, you know, And it's like I think I could have been a better teammate at times. I get used to like doing ities, you get used to do everything by yourself, kind of, it feels like a lot of times. You podcast up. Well, I understand podcast by yourself, it's a hit U Stand up, write at yourself. It's a hit So evenven though we're good together, it is hard to say Oh, even forget us to say, let's set dressing deal with the plates because We're both going Do these Do these make sense? You know, and you kind of start second guessing every department. There's almost too much to worry about And that drives people crazy. And then daies are coming in, which look bad because they're so confusing Now that's one more thing spinning in your head and then we're it's just all hard And u But I do like the final product and going back and forth and saying like, I would call you and say, hey Can we put this back in or did you like this or were you on the fence about like That kind of stuff And then so by the end, we're both like, okay This is it. We like it. And then whatever happens happens. So I just like having it floating out there and then Kids can watch it or Mostly under eight years old is probably our proble. Yeah. It's for kids. It's for kids who are getting dropped off at the mall who are just burning time until they meet someone. Until they meet there someone. Or they get a snow cone by other means. Yeah. David had some of the best choices. There was like this Steve Steve thing that's in the beginning that I was like, I don't get it But then that was one of the biggest laughs in the theater. you know, And they like that. I like that moment. And And I was like, I just don't, I don't really see it that way, but we're in there and people die laughing And that was like a big moment for me. I was like, dude you, sometimes you do not know what you're doing Well, you never know until you see crowds. they laugh at something think like a cutaway joke But even I like when we're looking at the u the wedding ring and it's so tiny, the diamond and you're like, which one's the front? I'm like, I think I saw it earlier. Where's the diamond? No Oh here it is. you're like, Yeahah, that's the marriage medal. Yeahah, it's real But when I say you keep remember that. We're like he's trying to help me out. He's like, this girl likes you still I go, but she doesn't even text me back and she went to Palm String. She's like, Yeah, because that's suspense. Have you heard of Jaws It dumb. It's so dumb. What a dumb. And he go, we're saving private Ryine. I'm like Well, Jaws sort of makes Yeah. sure. It was dumb, dude. It was fun U, I'm trying to think of another really. Oh, my favorite teen is probably David in the bathroom with Tim Dylan. I think that's just such a good When he's like, makeake your favorite face, you mean? he's like And the Donyays that. And he's like, yeah Yeah, they had many angles on David with that, you know, buggeding down on me like this. also like face. And then Theo, you put in a few extra shots because you're listening. And those are funny cutaways because you're doing different faces. you're like, sort of agreeing, and then you're like back. And so combo was fun. We did it when he says, Hey, I'm not gay and you're like Oh, no, I'm not What do you think we're here to suck your dick? and you're like, can't even suck my own dck. What a dumb thing to say. And we all laugh A No, I know. I can't. I'm not gonna walk around through life pretending like I'm gonna go bl himself. No, you showed us at lunch. You can't. Yeah, that's not who I am. You proved it. It was way. It was a lot, man. Thank you Thankk you, David for just like a lot of. Anything else for Theo, Dana, we could go on and on forever with this We go on forever. I know this more fun. I didn't know. I'm not on SNL, so I hadven't been able to come on here Now This is our first time with. We talk a about them all the time. Oh we have people that have never been on SNL all the time now. That was started off was an SNL only It was very exclusive R ran outago. It wasago. Yeah it was it was. We came out with ten bangers, ten all time greats. and then, you know, it's been a little Pull up, pull up. By the way, we I just saw you didn't go to that UFC fight. I think you're working on the reflecting pool Yeah, I was probably doing something I think I was busy Yeah, you' busy. I think I was busy. but I thought it was one I thought that they did a great job. I thought it was really amazing that Dana White gets things done. He's a guy and the guy that continues to He's a good And gets something that he says he's going to do Yeah, he's not a big bulls shitter. I'm going to probably go to that I might go to the Conner Mcreg At least I'm going to watch it. That one's coming up. You know where that one is I believe that's in Lasegas. I think' try to go to that one. That would be awesome. But yeah, even if to be welcome at those things is pretty special, man. I've met a lot of amazing people over there And that you all have a seene in a comment Yeah, nobody has like representatives or agents or man with that with them. So you just like, you can just meet people and talk to them like and everybody has like the fights in common that's been, That's been something special. Yeah. and getting to go with David D, David took me to meet frreicin Drew Breeze one time at a party in his fricin backyard in Scottdale. That's right Oh yeah, it was it was a big Who's it was Kurt Warner's Warner had a party Yeah. Kurt Warner has half of a football field in his own yard. O that guy's rich. It was five acres right. God dang what happens I was in Scots there everyverybody got rich That was a lot of fun, though they were all nice. was fun. And and Steve Miuchi was there Mch. Oh, that's right. I've seen him since Merge Well will you, you're good guy that Hawaiian shirt looks very BLM, dude. I wore my fickaking Tom Selek for you guys saying. Nobbody even calling There was. Oh yeah, I'm seeing it now. How did we not mention BLM How did we some seeleck shirt? No TLM, dude And he passed away, huh Who' Selic, I don't think so Oh, no, maybe Magnum did in the show. Oh. Somebody. Oh, wow, youre really for. Somebody pass This is the third season of Magma. I mean today. funeral feed. No, my funeral feed is sorry Oh you you got a funeral app I got a bad Yeahah, I'm getting we're getting some bad intntel on it Yeah, o. Well Dana. the only thing I wanted to say is your podcast The Aimish boy you interviewed And some of the UFC fighters, it's extremely high skilled interviewing and it's I loved I love your lane, what you do that no one else does. I mean, there's roogan and stuff, but you do have your own style and it's you were so gentle with that boy and kind. I don't know, just just putting some sugar out there just saying Hey, what's up? you know Well, thanks, dude. I appreciate it. Yeah, I don't really know what my lane is sometometimes I know that I work really hard. Um It's almost all I do most of the time, you know, It's like the safest place for me to be even like with my thoughts or feelings, I' put them in into work because I feel like it's just, I know there's a potential return there, you know So sometimes I wish I could do a better job of putting like that same energy into like other fields of my life probably. But it has been great, dude. It's been great just to sit and talk with people to learn how to listen. I've done that been able to do that a little bit better over time Um I'd like to be able to just like, Yeah, sometimes you want to have fun, but sometimes you want to talk with somebody something that means something and they let me talk to children, which is nice. And so, you know, that amish boy, who knows what happens to him? He might end up, you know you know, you know, we don't know how it's going to go for him. We hope he does well. We hope he stays over there milking with the boys or whatever. and I don't know what that term means in some communities, but Um But he might give up and he might go out in the secular world or the insular world. I can't remember what it's called Yeah and live it a Dav and Busters and drink his life away. You know, I don't know what he's going to do. all scenarios are very He was pretty poised for his age. I got a good feeling about him. Where did Yeah he's really he's really fallen off the cows back since then. That's what that He's not going to die by nail gun, not on Aomish community where they buildu everything with like chewed up gum stuck together. They haven't done. I don't think they even got COVID or something. They really stay out of the fray Beause it's not well it wasn't real. That's a new thing. I don't know if you read Tulse Gabbard's new report, but that' it's sitting on my desk. haven't read it So interesting. interesteresting. my question. if people didn't die COVID, what did they die? What happened? Yeah. Dana will tell you because he does's Fauci Oh he does. tellell him about the shot. Oh, do this yeah, do that. Well, this was one ye, the u People getting their shots, they were timing their shots because the thing kept mutating, you know And Fch had to come out. I know I told you when you got the vaccine you'd be dancing in the streets. I missed it by a little bit You can have ten vaccines and four boosters get and give COVID to another guy with twenty vaccines and nineteen boosters. You can have forty five vaccines and two hundred boosters you can get and give. Anyway, that's why I'm introducing Tony Fauci's Daily shot Every day you go to your healthcare provider and you get a shot By time you get to your car, you got no immunity, but it's a beautiful thirty nine seconds That was my poem to try to help me deal with the whole COVD thing. Ry found. I got a couple death threats, but that's okay. Yeah Hey, come on. We were right Yeah. But yeah. who knows? I don't know. I don't know anything Well with that. But thank you guys for having, man. it's an honor to be here with both you guys. thank you guys for all the laughter

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