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You can email the podcast via Frank Off the Radio at Avlonuk.com. Yep Now that Frank's not on the radio , just download the podcast away we go. So WhatsApp, Frank, and Lovely , and whichever guest is there with them, it's 07 45-7 417769 . That's 0 745 7 417 769 Yeah. Hmm. Does it mean the podcast will take up a minute of your valuable time? No, it will take you a minute to message us. The act of yeah, sending the WhatsApp. I'm I'm with you. Okay . Can I say Steve was late today, by the way? Why'd you say that Frank? I say because I've wronged a lot of young comedians thinking, you know, that's what young comedians are like now they're always late. Well as we were discussing, I uh I was early and then I I w there was a reason I didn't want to come in, so I s I did a circle at the block. Oh dear. And was then full of the colour. You don't want to get caught up in your sleazy shenanigans. No. You know, um Sleazy shenanigans, I think. Well used to run the uh Irish Bob. That's my drag name, Slea's shenanigans. Yeah, I quite like it. Frank, that's exactly what it is. Um but you know this is why Frank reminded me of Russell T. Davis . Because when we went to this screening, it's exactly the two first things he did. I know I talked about this last week, but it's just uncanny. The first thing he did was criticize the producer for turning up late and say, Well, you didn't think the director. He said, Well, he turned up late. And then when, well, no one laughed as much as I hoped. I thought this is Franklin Skinner. What's happened to me? No wonder you two get on so well, Frank. Ooh listen, I um I went uh That's why they're Time Lords. That's I was out and about on um Sunday. Is this a common sign in Pobs? There was a uh it said um Sunday roast and then it had a picture . Tell me this is a around a lot. It was a picture of a cow and then standing on the cow's back there was a pig and standing on the pig's back was a sheep and then on the on the sheep's back was a chicken. And then there was three mushrooms just hovering in there. And it was like a pyramid of what was available for a Sunday roast . And the animals were standing on each other as if they'd been converted into some sort of display team. Really? To whet your appetite. Is this a normal thing? I don't know, but you know what? I don't I enjoyy hypocris when it comes to meat eating. I don't want to see evidence of the cute animals anyway. Well remember hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue. Very true. That's rather strange. I didn't like it. And I do eat meat, but it made me think maybe I'll stop eating meat if they have to stand on each other's backs. And also why mushrooms getting involved? I also think slaughtering has a cer tain respect involved with it. You slaughter somebody properly. But not somebody. Some but making them stand on each other's backs, that feels like I once went to a place where they had a a a sockling And they'd put um like a red pepper in its mouth. And I thought, no. Yeah. Have a bit of respect for the dead before we eat them. But you're adding whimsy to a thing that you're about to munch on. No. It's a bit Avengers. Not in front of Steve. We don't know where we'll end up. No, you're right. You know I was a fo ol . What's your favourite song with Fool in it? Probably um Fool by Elvis Presley. Oh has he got a song called fools. Oh you didn't have to hurt her. you only had to love I like why the fools fall in love. That's a great fool's gold. Maybe still Oh that's a good one. Stone Roses. You do. If you hear um that one you will know it, Frank. The Stone Roses one. Fool on the hill you'd think was the biggie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We gone uh who was my one? Frankie someone? Why did Falls Fall in the Was it Frankie Valley? No. Frankie Lyman and the Tina each other. Very good. Is that O'Carroll? Is that O'Carroll Oh, we are sounding like three old men's. Okay. Come on, through Altman. So enough now. So God, we were five live last time and now we're capital gold. No, now we've gone a bit uh Giles Brandreth, bless him. I love a brandreth. What the fuck does Joss Brandreth wear in this heat? You can't wear a jumper to die. He's gonna die. Do you think does he wear a T shirt that looks like a jumper? Knitted t shirt. Knitted T shirt with little cap sleeves. The wool just doesn't lend itself to the hot temperatures. What does he wear in these conditions? Does someone have to shear him? That would be a strange job. Yeah. Do you know? I uh w that's a great question. Maybe if anyone knows and has seen here this man I bet he doesn't leave the house. Maybe he goes , it's actually knitted . It's got a knitted house in my fair. It's got a picture of uh it's knitted uh there's a vintage car knitted into the side wall. The posh do struggle in these hot temperatures. Well do you know what I mean? 'Cause aren't they don't wear a singlet. They don't wear with respect, Steve. Coach driver short sleeved shirt. What they wear is a tailored short. Oh, you've nailed it! Yeah, but the tailored short doesn't have as many pockets as uh Do you know who wears a tailored short? Lovely. Johnny Bowden, founder of Bowdoin, the high end uh clothing. Are you familiar with Bowdoin? I know John Bowden, the folk singer. I'm just surprised to discover that he wears a tailored short. Surprised and disappointed. I'll tell you what they wear. Sometimes Alan Clark used to wear this sometimes. If you saw a picture, he'd wear a tailored short. Absolutely right, Frank, almost like a Bermuda, with a shirt. A long sleeved saddle row shirt, just rolled up at the sleeves. Do you know that look? And then a panama? Leather moccasins with no socks . Oh man. We have nailed their look on the Riviera. You see, I sort of when I see young people out in the the hot weather with that we've experienced of late um You have out your eyes they they look forward to be able to show off their bodies. They do. Because they've you know they've all not all of them, but a lot of them are like a mazing, boys and girls, both. But I they don't know that I look forward to confronting them with what they must face in the future. I like that. I like I like the idea of yes. We are Christmas . Even the fairy flower shall wither. I am so my uh single I I'm inclined to agree with you. No, but you still look great. Oh I love I in the summer 'cause my I'm so deathly pale, so my legs on display. You are actually it's but you can see people will look and I I sort of so why is that person looking at me and I'll realize it's because they're uh upset by having to look at my legs. Yeah. I was like that when I came in. Frank, you exact you what are you doing? You can't just go yes. If someone goes, Oh my awful legs, people can't look at it. I know, but can't you have you've got lovely legs, Steve. Oh no, they I mean lit they're prismatic. They Do you know what? They're really not that bad. Prismatic light passes through them. Oh I was thinking in this hot weather though, I do despair sometimes of the fashion out there. There's some bad things going on. Don't you think? Does it not bother you in the same way you've got you're clued into this, so you know the trends. I think I just think it's not that hard. Come on, people. It's really not that hard to get your act together for the hot weather. Just you know some of the awful things , the socks with trainers and then the Oh I think it's okay. I think in the summer y all bets are off. Like I said, there's a lot of beautiful people out there looking beautiful. So the rest of us can mock. in Isn't there a generational thing with this? I think Gen Z like wearing socks with trainers i i with shorts because they because they think it's like or if your feet It's anti fashion. Yeah. But it's also that they they get horrid 'cause they'll think oh your t your feet will be really gross if you're not wearing a sock. Yeah but Frank you look chic somehow with that. I don't like I said before the trainer sock. Mm is ultimately deceit. No that's dead now isn't it the trainer We could have you roving the streets but and just call it I'm so I'm sorry, but you look awful. Or like have some dignity, please. How to become the most hated woman in Britain. I'm sorry, but you look awful. And that's it. And then and then you just move on. That's the just ten second stings each time. That's it. I'm um to be honest, I'm astonished at how many um good looking fit people there are. Um We've been hanging out in different places. I think they must all you, know, I suppose it's this going to the gym thing that some people do. Yeah, they go to the gym. And you know they eat healthy as well, these young people. They don't eat healthy. Taught Robby. Steve, what have you been doing with your terrible week? Well we um we were discussing uh previously about uh the feedback that I'd got from my last appearance. I've had some feedback from my brother. Oh yeah. Uh he he gave me two pieces of feedback. Is he nice your brother? Yeah, he's a lovely bloke. I have two brothers, one of whom I'm not allowed to talk about . In public and and my brother Lawrence is happy for me to discuss. But he said he said he said two things. He said first of all uh on the he said my teeth look terrible on the Insta on the videos of this. Hang on, this is the nice brother. Yeah, this is my nice brother. He said he said, I've got to be honest, your teeth look terrible. Next to me then look terrible. Why do you think I like having Steve here? Look how good my teeth look. Yeah, yours look great. I mean we are like the three ages of I've not had a single fitting. Well I've got I've got a chipped tooth from the thirteenth of December two thousand and five upon arriving at Aber yswith train station, Greg Davis took his guitar case down from the train rack, smashed me in the face with it, and I have a chip tooth that he's never offered to repair, despite the millions that Taskmaster has paid him. But so that's the only thing. But he's he said he had he said I don't know why they just look terrible. And I said, Well thank you for your lovely feedback. I think they look fine. Mine look terrible. Yours look you know, all right and Emily's look great. Yeah, yours look lovely. I'm I don't think yours are terrible, but um Oh well you're gonna say that. You've gotta say that to be honest. But then look, no one here's got great Even my dentist said they look terrible. Oh he didn't. My dentist The front teeth are so thin now I can see your tongue moving about behind them . But then the second piece You know when someone has a torch on in the tent It's like that. Little silhouette pictures might I was in bareball I did all the medieval um st unt, the t the teeth doubl ing in uh the film Beowulf. Every time one of the actors smiled they cut to me. You could well yours would be addressed with a but I don't think you need it. No, I tried whitening. No they, did it did nothing. What? Your teeth are impervious to whitening. I tried I tried whitening them very unpleasant, you know, trays of bleach. Oh yeah. And all that sort of stuff. Nothing nothing happened. There's a system called Enlighten, which not a shame there's a system called enlightenment, that's what it's for. Because I you know, more than ever now the world needs enlightenment, but not just the Buddha with a perfect set of an ears . Yeah, the Buddha opens his mouth, turkey teeth, a pair of Ryland teeth. Yeah. Yeah, enlighten it is depressing, isn't it, that it's called enlightenment. It used to mean such a different thing. It's hard. It's the age of enlightenment , but it means something very different now, Frank. Yes. Um it would work on you. I've got a guy that could sort you out. But what I would say is I actually really respect you for keeping your teeth. Thank you, darling . Is that is that okay for me to say that? I don't want to make them like super white, just less green . That's what he said. I think Steve is f ine. No, no, it looks fine. What was what was your other feeling? Then the second piece of feedback he gave because a few a few weeks ago we briefly talked about the band Half Man, Half Biscuit. We did. And my brother is a big fan of them and knows way more about music than I do. And he he chastised me. He basically said because we we went to the thing that one of their songs was called All I Want for Christmas is a Dukla Prague away kit. And he said that scene my head it it was I mean at least you got it right. I thought it was Saint Etienne was was the awake it. So I it's a good job I didn't say that. But my brother's take on that is that that's ba he considers that that's the big moment of bigma ho uh of Half Man, Half Biscuit, and he thinks it's that they're one of our very greatest bands, and they sort of get remembered in this slightly kitschy way, where it's like a reference to Subbutio. And so he was basically saying, I need to correct the record to emphasise how good they were. And he's he's intrigued as to whether how much you know them because there are there are so many things about Half Man, Half Biscuit that would coincide with stuff you love. So for example, they they turned down an appearance on the tube in the eighties because Tranmere were playing on the Friday night, and so they turned down the opportunity to be on telly so they could go and watch Tranmere. Brilliant. Uh and they've got lots of references to What about Marking Smith's contract when he did late with Jules Holland saying under no circumstances could he be accompanied by Honky Tonk Piana Uh and then so they've got lots of puns in their songs, but also lots of po lots of references to poetry. So one of their songs is called A Shropshire Lad. Right. One of the songs is called Upon Westminster Bridge. They've got a an album of sort of odds and sods that's called And Some Fell on Stony ground. Oh, really? So there are so many things that are sort of skinner adjacent. And he was basically saying, if you like the fall and you like the lovely eggs, they would sort of be a natural kind of bedfellow. That's not uh that there's no entry point for me here, just so you know. I'm gonna check him out. That's it. I'm gonna take you Lawrence. Yeah. But it's basic he he gave me a proper ball of the case. Why does he call Lawrence and you're called Steve? It's very different. Do you call him Lol? Because Lawrence Lawrence very Lawrence of Arabia or Lawrence Fox . Yeah, I think I think my mum was a b my mum was a big fan of Omar Sharif, I think. So so I think that's I think. Omar Sharif? Yeah, yeah. And Steve. Oh, speaking of um foxes . Oh god. And he's made it so we can't cut that out. Very clever. We found me and um my son and my nephew were um investi gating some waste ground. And uh No, I love I love a bit of waste ground. You never know what you're gonna find. We found four alcoholics. I used to hang out here in the eighties. Yeah, so You meet some of your old friends? Teeth still the same friend? We found what I can only describe as a mummy fied fox. Oh that's sad. And it was a f I think it was pretty sure it was a fox. I've got a picture. I don't know if Emily will let me put it up 'cause it's it's a bit in the You know I don't like animal cruelty. There's no cruelty involved. There's no suggestion of fell The chickens weren't involved. There was a chicken standing on its back. I don't like anything about animals upsetting. You know I don't. Well th but this is an interesting phenomenon 'cause I thought this doesn't look like I look a rotten or decaying fox. Was it Mummet? It looks like you know the non putrefaction of saints, have you ever heard of that? Oh, okay. So sometimes you they dig up saints, the Catholic Church, and that they're in pretty good condition s. Like tactodermia almost. It's like they just haven't um properly rotted around. Because of the celestial, isn't it? Well that's the theory, right. The the church nowadays keeps a sort of an open mind on it. The theories like in the catacombs there was a a very, very on the Rome it was very, very dry and s 'cause I think the process is to do with the rate of dehydration being faster than the rate of bacteria. Oh I see. And this thing, that's what it looked like. Really? So it's been almost unintentionally embalmed and it looked incredible. It looked like one of these saints. So um Kath uh was amazed by it . And she went on the internet , Googled Mummy Fied Fox. The first thing we saw, Mummy Fied Sock Fox for sale , four hundred and sixty-five quid. I don't think it was as good as the one on the waste ground. Yeah. I'm gonna show you guys a photo of it. Oh I'm gonna be really Well I want to see it might be so we might need to canonise or beatify this fox. Yeah, well that's uh it's non putrefied. There you go. Oh wow, yeah. H aboutow that for a response That's hardcore, but that is absolute that's I don't like the description of hardcore when you're looking at content on Frank's phone. Something uh I see what it looks like Howard Carter could have discovered that. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Um so yeah, 4 6 5 quid. That's how much it was. So you 're gonna sell this one. No, but it's not, you know, it's on common ground. No, but I've I I thought we ought to, you know. It's a shame it's just lying there, is all I'm saying. But this weather will probably put it. You know what you sound like you sound like Mrs. Lovett when it first occurs to her they can use the bodies for meat. She actually says seems an awful waste about the dead bodies and the meat pies. I'm just thinking Robert Kennedy Jr. he'll he'll he'll eat that. Go on, Frank. I was just saying this weather could put another fifty quid on him. Try it out just a bit more. It's pretty amazing. We will put it up. I'll put it up on social, see what you think. Well you know you don't have to look after it. Sometimes when they do co when they do auctions and comedians are asked to donate memorabilia. Now that you've immortalised it. I have been asked that for twenty years. You could say I I'm I I can't believe you brought it all. I can't actually. Oh man awful. That's awful. This episode is sponsored by BT . 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On the hottest day of the year, naturally. IMAX 3D in f in row D, really right. It was absolute whoa. Man, it was it was mind-blowing. It' likes having a workout. Which one is this then? I get confused. There's about twenty-five. Pedro Pascal. Uh oh, he's a nice boy. Pedro, Pedro, Pedro, Pedro, Pedro. Except you very rarely get the Mm. Who does he play? He plays the Mandalorian. Who's the Mandal orian? Well, have you ever I know there is a race front on the planet of Mandalore is a race of people who are humanoid. Okay. But their religion means that they they can't show their face, so they always wear armour and a big mask. Oh, I quite like that idea. Maybe I'd like it. So Pedro wears a mask throughout so I've heard. And on the very rare occasions, the Mandalorian takes off his mask, which is a great dishonour for him to be seen without it. But when he takes it off, he's Pedro and he's got a fucking mustache and you think why would you have a moustache if why would you go to the bother of grooming a moustache if you're wearing that all the time? Can I ask a question? Do you go on your own to these things? No, I went with my son and our friend Molly, who's also a big Star Wars fan. I went on my I couldn't get my kids interested in it. Oh have you seen it? Oh good on, yeah. Oh yeah. It's it because I wasn't gonna give spoilers, but there is uh Oh don't worry. Um I have no intention of ever seeing this film. There's uh there's one of one of one of of a member jabba the hut's family is a prominent character mm and he's he's ripped so the idea of a ripped hot hot hut um voiced by Jeremy Alan White from the Bear who, is a very beautiful man. But seeing a ripped jab of the hut, it reminded me very strongly of Darren Lyons, uh, from Celebrity Big Brother, the one who had the bulk but had done the fake six pack on his stomach, he'd like I don't know if he'd had implants to give himself a fake. Oh yes. Have you seen those fake those fake ads? Obviously I haven't got one. I haven't I haven't Can you imagine Frank with both ? If you took your dish. I'd like a stomach I could grate cheese on . But uh what happened to me is we got invited to what I thought was the premiere a few ye a few uh weeks back. So Mandalorian. I said to Soz with uh to Boz. Soz. I said to Boz, um we've been invited to the Mandalorian and Grogu Premier, so it's very excited. So we got there. Pedro was there. Sigorni was there. Oh they're all there. Favre? John? Hey. Um but I thought not many celebrities. Cause I I got quite a lot of uh paparazzi action and I th y normally, you know, I had to move over for share. And I'm thinking, the only celebrities I thought was me and Dan Walker. I thought that can't be it, can it? Really? Were you the only celebs? So I could I couldn't work this out. You know, loads of fans are getting signatures from Sigorni and Pedro and stuff. So we got in and you know I'd got Boz really excited about us seeing the thing and then I realized I hadn't properly read the invite. It was uh it was just the first twenty-five minutes as a sort of teaser. So you only saw twenty-five minutes. Of course at my age I'm I'm gotted that I've let my son down. We're only gonna see twenty-five minutes, but I'm thinking oh I'll be home for nine o'clock. Oh , it's that's a win. But uh so I'd already seen the first twenty-five minutes accidentally and then we went and we we paid and saw it. I I loved it. Mm. All right. Okay, well I mean I might see it, but I've got a lot of catching up to do, Frank. Yeah, you uh you need to see three series on the TV shows. I thought it was film Star Wars. No, it's a lot of Star Wars now on Disney Plus. I can't. This is the and the Mandalorian series was one of the few that wasn't bad. Introduced Baby Yoda, who is now who now has the name Grogu, but people went to the case. They they really in this one they really lean into how much baby uh Grogu loves eating. They they make it such a running The word in the American sort of uh company press is they've gone family instead of fanboy with this film. Oh, have they? Which they think there's more money. Because fanboys tend not to have families. The amount of merch, because it's a cute baby yoda, the amount of merch, that one character alone will shift. Apart from I was I took my kids, there's Lego store just open in Oxford. I took my kids there yesterday. And just you know it's Lego razor crest and all that. Yeah, yeah. Wow, that's great news . Wow . Oh, I'm glad I live in London. Speaking of London, have we heard anything in from the We have the world? We've heard from um George in Norwich, which isn't speaking of London. It's speaking of Norwich. I just meant outside of the studio. I understand. I love Norwich. I think if I had to move somewhere else that's where I'd move. Would you? Mm-hmm. Okay. I love I like a bit of a Nippin and see Julian. Yeah. I like a bit I like a bit of he's his best friend, Julian of Norwich. Um I love She. Oh is it she? Oh yes the woman through the prison In the little cubicle on the side . Um dear Frank Emily and Guest, I'm an English teacher and a colleague once told me that she broke up with an ex-boyfriend, partly because he often spoke in clich es, and she couldn't handle it. This in itself made me laugh, but even better than that, after they'd broken up , he texted her and said it's a crying shame . This really made me laugh. And for some reason I thought Frank might like this too. That's from George in Norwich. Imagine Frank getting the te xt. It's a crying shame. I I'm all right. I thought you're gonna I was waiting for it takes two to take . At least he was nice, you're right. At least he's he was sort of you know, not offensive or aggressive. But at the end of the day, it's been a good relationship. Yeah. That would have been yeah. Anyway, I enjoyed that enormously. I thought you might enjoy that as well. Um we've also heard from hang on can you talk amongst yourselves while I find this please yeah I got very interesting ripping anecdote come in there. Well okay you choose Frank. It's a big moment for you. No . No, I couldn't possibly over to Frank Skinner. The choice is yours. Are you gonna go outside world or are you gonna go Steve's gold? I'm going outside well Emily safe pair of hands . Next time, Steve. This is from Lex. Oh okay, he's got a nerf . After what he's done to my hero. Lutherian. Um hi guys. With the talk of Yuri Geller recently I don't know if you were here when we were talking about Yuri Geller. I wondered if, as a comic book fan, Frank is aware that Geller once appeared in a Marvel comic teaming up with Daredevil. No. It was back in the 70s or 80s, and Geller had to use his psychic powers to help Daredevil Daredevil fight a supervillain. I'm not quite sure how Geller's publicity team managed to arrange this appearance, but it must surely stand as one of the most bizarre comic book team ups to ever happen. All the best from Lex. Very old it's from Lex, isn't it? It is really It's making me suspicious. But there used to be a thing of uh putting real people in the car. Is that right? I remember um Mohammed Ali fought Superman and did pretty well. Two spand our ballet joined Melchester Rovers to play alongside Roy the Rovers. I've actually just found a picture of it here, Yuri Geller and Daredevil. Okay. And it's quite extraordinary. Is there any keys involved ? I couldn't see any keys. It's showing him what it should have joined is with the he should have been some Peter. He's bending what looks like a piece of lead piping. So very flattering comic interpretation of uh Yuri. Yes, he looks rather more like Pauline Prescott, I would say. He has a very sort of remarkable right. Because he appears on it's Johnny Carson is the thing that launches Geller. But they but James Randy was basically debunking him, so they set him up to fail. Mm and so he flops and he th apparently Geller thinks it's all finished. I like that we're calling him Geller like he's really like he's sort of Einstein or something. And it but because he was on he was like I just I haven't got the energy today. He wasn't like gone oh the trick hasn't he was gone I just I feel weak today. So people embraced him also weirdly after that, even though that appearance went badly, suddenly he was in demand everywhere. So he has this run in the middle of the 70s where he's ending up in comic books. No, he had a great he did have a great run. He was hot property for a long time. And I always thought James Gandhi just like spoils people who saying, Oh, I know where he's doing it. Well, I don't want to hate them. Wouldn't want to sit in front of James Gandhi at the theatre. Hang on, isn't it James Gandhi? Right. Oh, whatever his name. Well, it is important. Names are important, Frank. That is he a professional debunker then? James Randy. Yeah, James. James Randy. You should well to be fair, he would change that now, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you? Oh I don't know . Yeah, his whole thing was I know where it's done and stuff like that. And then we're supposed to like him for that, but I hate those people. Yeah, we don't like I don't want to know how anything's done. The coding housework . Oh my God , Terry and June. June June Go on next. Okay, do you want to Why doesn't Steve read one out? He can. Right. But he won't. I think you and you often have more than me and you're a little bit more. Don't use these excuses. Steve, I'm sick of these excuses. Is it based on the let the lady reading the letters in the secretarial So Big Jim. Big Jim says Firstly, thank you for reminding me of the Green Hornet and putting me on to superstore. This might be a me thing, but contrary to your wanting to tell the world about something brilliant like Superstore, I have a similar outlet to Emily, where I hate it when people discover something I've loved for years, like it's new. I'm wondering, is it normal to like, love, connect with something so much that you want to keep it just for you. Well, that's why we've got so many missing episodes in the Doctor Who world. Because some people have got the recordings and they don't want to share them. Is that true? Yeah, they love the idea of having them exclusively for themselves. It's not a good human instinct. No, it's very selfish. Although I I tell you what I get a bit irritated is when I discover a series, like I like that you wanted to show to share Superstore with people. I think that showed you in a very good light. Because I I get very irritated when I say to people, Oh, you should watch Mad Men or you should watch Succession. And those self-same people turn around to me three months later and say, Oh you I'll tell you what's great madmen have you seen that? I say yes I told you to and they say no you didn't. Oh I've got one friend we'll discuss this person after who does it all the time to me. Oh really? Yes. It drives me nuts. There's denial. It's lit. So this is the secret of not knowing that many people if I see more than one . I remember once having a conversation with Calf and I I did You did what is why this gonna lead into something you really love and then someone else finds out about how good it is. That's where we're going with this. I didn't know how good the Giruti column were until Kath raved about the Giruti column. What is this weird thing you're talking about now? Vinnie Riley basically is the Girutium. So a very good band . But they he's just been he's there's a there's a gig in honour of him because I think he's not well enough to perform himself, but there's a gig because it turns out Harry Styles is a massive Giruti column fact. Right. And so as part of that ruins it. As part of Harry Styles' meltdown, there's a there's a tribute to Vinnie Riley. And I I really love that someone as as glob Many um alternative band s . She is uh yeah, she's uh but she also likes Aba. It's an odd contradiction. But the point is you're happy, the question being y wanting to keep it to yourself, I don't think that's true of you. No You're happy to share these things. No, it's like food in our house. Mm. Kath will say to me, Did you have um an orange at the basket? In at the fruit basket. And I was like, Yeah . Oh . I said it was in the fruit basket. Yeah, I was really looking forward to it. Whereas I will give honesty give them my last rollo ut is the term . Yeah, she's very uh very careful on that stuff. But I tell you what she did this year is my uh it was Bosie's birthday at the weekend. Oh, does it make it based on the case. What was it this year? It was stranger things this year. Oh a lot of black icing or white icing. Oh the red was it an upside down cake? Very suggested an upside down cake and she hadn't heard of it. So think yourself lucky you did that. Did she have the red writ red writing then? Yeah, I can I'll show you a picture. I'll put I'll put this up. But Kath is awesome, she never realizes how good her cakes are. Look at con and not just does she not realise, but we'll say it's absolutely shit this year is what she'll say. Oh I bet it's a good Oh my god it looks amazing guys we're gonna share we'll show you this. It's a mummified fox. No, it's no, it's a four. We put a bit of icing on the mummified. I would do you know what I would spend? £2 40 , I would spend on that cake. Well she made that um It's extraordinary. Really good. Yeah. Anyway. So did it go down well ? Well, it's half eaten. Then again, so was the Mummy Five Fox. Let's not even get started on the one orange. The Mummy Five Fox doesn't have a tail, by the way, that's the one thing that's missing. Oh I could people often go for the tail first if they're taking a fox souvenir. Do you know I could have given that fox a loving home? What the mummy five fox? Yes. Well it's still time . It will keep. That's the joy of the mummified fox. It's the pet that won't leave. Do you know? It sounds right on my strass. It's true though. It's true the etern who said there's no such thing as the turn off? Walking the mummified fox. Oh no. Yeah. That would be good. You could have a small trolley furry. And then you could interview people of a a dark um more macabre nature. It's got And coming up next week Robert Smith. Yeah, Robert. I'm all over it. Tim Burton would do it. Thanks Steve. Yeah, it could be a really great thing. The woman who played Wednesday, what's her name? Oh yes. We know who she is. Yeah. Sarah Michelle Gaylor would do it . Um Yuri Geller, her dad . Um Boffy the vampire bender. I don't know if you remember that when she bends vampires into all sorts of strange shapes as a punishment for their non vegan uh lifestyle . Yeah. Anyway, look, the next episode of Frank Skinner's Radio Days is out on Wednesday. It's another twenty fourteen throwback. Mm. What about that? Mm. This is the phraseology of our new producer Sandy. And we're talking about female novelist dog dental care and talcum powder . Okay. Do you remember the old talcum powder joke? Man walks into a chemist and says to the woman assistant, Um, Can you get can I get some talcum powder? And she said, Walk this way. She walks off and he said, If I walk that way I wouldn't need the talcum powder. Oh my god . It's a classic . It's the Frank Skinner podcast . A new winter change is blowing . It's the Frank Skinner podcast . I'm not totally sure how it's going . Thanks for listening to the podcast. 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