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Red PG It's Fank off the radio Fank off It the Franksinner podcast, donon't you know Hey there, you with the stars in your eyes. This is Frank off the Ride. Y Whars me? Lama Kight. Sorry. Oh gosh, haven't got me lamin. It's the worst opening we've ever done to a show, is' it? is Let see if I could remember it. Oh no, I've got it. This is awful. I'm so sorry it's so wrong. guesed it it's. People don't want polish nowadays. I't go for that. This is I'm sorry, I misread that. That was a text from a reform voter I thought it said Polish This is Fick Cper Radio. I'm joined by Emily Bean, Ruth Posco and Adam Kay Exclamation markark Follow the yes, we've got a guest. I know we never have a guest but have a guest. Yeah. Well, we only have the I mean you've got to really go some to be a guest on this. Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via Frank off the radio tvel on UK. com On the WhatsApp front Sorry about that H we go I said. Scott I always think Scott Walker didoy that one. Beautiful. Shall we start by telling us? That was from Doctor Phil coincidentally What it? Oh doror Pil He's not a real doctor, Adam, we should say. How do we know that? Well, who are the ones are? There's doct. Dreay. doctor Who. doctor Who Yeah. yeah. Dotter K. Dot brown Dror Kill there You know he wasn He wasn't an actual doctor. That was quite rach. That wasission critical. unless you know something. unless there's some internet't break it. Sorry, Dror Fox Oh yeah. speaking of big scandals. Frank, please. I didn't bring it up. Yeah, but just don't mention these things. What was the TV series when Jodie Whittica played a nurse pretending to be a doctor? It was one of my favourite, That's my favourite subject matter ads, is people pretending to be doctors. Turns out, very easy It's like there's one of these stores. It's like twice a week Is that your favourite medical theme? Okay? I absolutely love it.s You couldn't watch it because Frank hates that tension of people being discovered or He hates rifant people rifing. I don't mind if it's a doctor Groper It's to get those in the tub look. But once every two years. Oh Anyway look Adam, welcome to the show. Adam, I'm so can we make I'm not of the doct No're not' not you're not a doctor Gram. Al also I did I wasn't just one of the porters who decided one day to nick someone else's badge. Now you are the real thing. Can I'm going to read a text. I never read texts front, but this is a text from me to Adam K on the twentieth of July of last year Adam It's a compulsive page turner shot through with a brilliant stand up comedy sensibility. Surely that's the golden ticket Don' on, I generally find that reading I probably shouldn't read this bit. I generineally find that reading the first seven pages of a book is more than enough re search for a usable quote. I actually I actually kept going with this one Yeah that was it So that is the book that we're talking about today and it's Adam K. Now Adam K Adam has got it just over his shoulder. like when Martin Lewis is on Sky News, he has his OBE he does he honestly He has the box, it comes in with the lid open and there's his OBE. So there's Adam's book you'll be able to see you thing with an OE. you can wear it at all times. Yeah. he could be wandering around with it Yeah, why doesn't he? Phaps he thinks he'll alienates his c you got one of those? Well thans. But I wouldn't He probably for the same reason as me doesn't want to alienate the impoverished and e a lot. Yeah they found thattally impoverished that I. I don't know. That's what draws them in So anyway, all he does is points to Bimmark, I mean, metaphorically, that's his job I also say, Frank, how much I love this book because I was sent this book I didn't get it last year when you did. Oh secondier. Yeah. I was second tier. It makes it feel any better Beautiful quote, never made it to the press. Oh good. I do feel better. that's fair. But I got it this time r And shouldould it be nicer? No yeah. I realiz my name doesn't sell. I've told people that they said canan have a quote for my book and I say it'll add nothing. Who did they go for? So went French They went dorm French. They went dorm French Yeah. Okay. You're going to go dor French. It's not like old comedians were off the table You know what I mean? Just the wrong one Anyway Anyway, when I got seent a copy of this book,, We're good friends, full disclosure. Yeah. Who? Me and Adam. Okay. you're all aware. just if this is audio, I could sor to R. Yeah. could have been Absolutely right. Everybody loves ruth. Everybody loves rh. That' might noseick. Come, everybody loves r. I'm out of work at the minute say ye. Oh, I'm sorry to hear about. Anyway, can I tell you about that? Have you tried Martha Lewis OB eight. OB eight Can I tell you what I thought when I got the book? G, I got it and There's a part of me and I know this is wrong, but I thought, o, I hope this isn't too good. That will be really annoying I know that's mean, but you have sold over five million books Like you've crossed over from quite successful. It's getting like the Bible now And then I read it and I felt exactly like you, Frank. I thought, Ohh and no it's really good. It's really good. 'a I don't normally like with thrillers and things What I couldn't believe about this is I was laughing all the time and I was reading. it was so funny And then I was really gripped and I thought, how has he done this? How has he done both things, damn it Have you made it so so I ask now I isn't if you're going to ask back. I'm gonna ask. Oh, they'll be people at home writing this down thinking. You know when you can get those outer writer mills and boom. How have you done it, please And so I did I had lots of post it notes because think the thing with a thriller is you don't want to guess it to Be there's two types of irritating thriller. There's the one where you guess it And page four and you I was slogg through six hundred more pages. Right. And then there's the one where you get it on the second last page when they tell you, it's the character you've never met before. Turn it someone who h the window once Yeah. So there's lots of posts involved. There's the Combo method of T them at the beginning Yeah exactly they' for a bit of time, which is very clever. wr does work and then I make it funny by being innately hilarious in say and do. So that yeah that does the second bit. And do you know from the start, we obviously Frank and I both know who done it You don't know, Ruth, do you? I don't. Re guess? Ruth is halfway through the audio book Yeah. So she's still on tender hooks. Imagine if I hadn't tested her and said Which bit are you up to specifically now? Someone I know said tender hooks recently. Did you correct them No I just E call them again Which we haven't said it's called a particularastic y which is what is called. And the reason it's on we're plugging it. it's already been a hit as a hard back great review. But being the Martin Lewis of podcast. you need to sell to the paperbark. you broughtaperacks, don't you? Yeah, absolutely. yeah. Is there still such a thing as an airport addition Oh yeah. those things are. Yeah, yeah. a halfway house betweening a piper back and a hard backack. Yeah, so it's the hard backack size But it's paperback. My theory was if they sold partardbags, you could possibly hijack a plane with the sharp corners. I think that was the theory What I'd like you said to go on with a hard back and then when the white when the Steward S came said, Well you mind hanging up my jackie and then give him the ds jackie? Just for that one bit of levity H because it's nervous flyer. Well let us know how it goes. Okay. I'll give it a try. But this is a paper back now and also an audiobook as Rut testify. Yeah And I didn't record the audioobook. It was Andy, sir. Yeah, I thought I'd take a chance on a new up and comea to sort of know, everyone leaves a leg up it Given he can do every voice. I't only do my voice. You know when you get when they allow you to have someone like that, do they give you is there like a booklet you look through for like rich resonant North country, Do you know do they give you options for So basically I had an email email one said We're very keen, you don't do the audiobook. They didn't sound It was just that they phrased like it's going to involve a lot of different voices. The thing is I'm really good at accents. but the problem is they curdle a bit between my head and my mouth and they all sound quite bad according to other people, but I hear them really Good. So But they thought because of the audiobic process that wasn't necessarily going to work. There you will know this. There must be some neurosurgical method that they can get them before they hit your mouth or, exactly That's all they need to do. They' pure and accurate. Exactly. Oh actually, is it true? And you know when people wake up and they change their accents, does that really happen You knowt when of people say he was in a coma when he wke I think he was speak Chinese. Is that med? Yeah, it is definitely possible. If it happens to someone like four or five different times, they're probably probably be having you on. But so I did the audio books for my previous like my non fiction books and my kids books and It turns out, so this is going to ht It was my first book was my diagage from a doctor. There's one really crucial word I can't say very well, which is's okay. Or Brace yourself if we recognize it prescription. Oh no, I didn't like that. No. And so, you know Has anyone got a jelly cluff? I mean that were you ad doopor. I could sort of skirt it around. And then there was you know when you're recording an audiobook there's a producer being like, And again, please and again, please, and then one more safety And again, please. And it was like using up five minutes every time. And then no wast producer. I you discrin discriminating against. I know it's terrible And eventually I realized that I'm not reading out like T or two sits on. I can just change the words. It's my book also. So beyond like about a third of the way through. if If you listen to the audi book, it's me say then. And then I wrote out the name of the medicine on some paper. Oh Ecellent work But avoiding this circus circus out of bash Well done though My ego would never let anyone else read my book on an audio. I think that's true and I respect your honesty. Thank you. So obviously, we should say the central character,'s not giving it away to say he's a doctor. He's a rheumatologist. Yeah. I always think of arthritis. Yeah. you're right to. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I think I'd had enough of doctors being reflected in the media as the hot shot brain surgeon who can fly a helicopter and is good at martial arts. so I wanted, you know, writing from a place of truth. I wanted the lead to be a doctor who was fine And so he's doing a boring sorry in no offense rheumatologist boring specialty and he's like totally adequate at his job. He's like good rapport, but he's never going to win any prizes And so yeah. You were a gynecologist, is that right? Yeah, Os and Gyney say, laborour Ward. Are you aware of the You know the most famous photograph of the Lotless monster from the nineteen thirties, I when you can see it Yeah. They call it the surgeon's photo. Why? Because it was taken by a surgeon , it wasn't. It was actually taken by a gynecologist and that was sort of known by the press, but they thought It's a type of surgery Yeah. you know they thought can't you know, in the nineteen thirties we can't say he was a guy in a colly. That's going to undermine the photo immediately. It was more undermined by the fact that it was nonsense. Well it was I't know it was more embarrassing. I also think a lot less monstrouers people didn't want the guy Gynecology at Souos But we didn't want the lockmess not theck. I but they always say the surgeon.' it is it's sort of because people are embarrassed about the title in the nineteen thirties So how happy that time has gone on with progress. Can I ask you something about the book? I once worked with Roddie Doyle. Oh yeah, an off list And he said to me He said when I never write any kind of plan or anything for a book. I just start writing the book. I don't know what's going to happen or who's going to be in it and I don't know where it's going to end He said, although if I knew where it was going to end, I'd just get so bored lose interest But a book like this one that you couldn't posossibly Yeah. I mean, maybe he'd have sold more copies if he'd have planned them out in advance went't won. did all wr. did al right. There no five million no. But come on you know when you read about Who was the guy who did the D thingy T do' That's a good question. You know the thing. You know that's why with Tom Hanks and the French actress, the film And it was based on the Da Vinci code.. So Dan Brown apparently spent like years doing the plan. him and his wife did the plan of the book And as you say, the yellow stick is kindind of fascinated by that aspect because In a way the book as well as as you said, being funny and keeps you going, it's also a bit like a doing a b z Yeahrect. It's definitely doing a puzzle. And so I was quite reliant on. So I'd had the twists quite early dor. You knew what the twists were going have. knew what the twist was going to be which are great by the way And it's sort of you don't want them too high or low in the mix. So And so the posters used to be in my up in my office and then we started renovating the house and we moved somewhere where I didn't have an office. and so it was up in the living room And so I had lots of posts on the wall which would sort of said things like murder, exclamation well your partner was panicking, is this b going to happen? He was fine. It was when guests came round and were having dinner and could just see them sort of looking up and right and wondering what was planned for the evening? Yeah fact they were most frightened of it being a murder mystery. They would rather that their lives have been taken of that. Well, you're right, George is it George R. R. Martin calls it architects and gardeners with writers? He says you're either an architect or a gardener So Roddie Doyle would be a gardener, Frank. Did you do that book? Architects and gardeners He didn't do that book. Architects and gardeners, that. So an architect, I assumeing from what Adam's answer is then you are very much more the architect. But I think with a book like this you've got no choice. You couldn't improvise this, could you I don't know. I certainly can't but I mean, every writer is different. I think it's very I don't know how helpful it is for prospective writers giving Adv Somerset Mororm, I know you quote Somerset Morm a lot on this show said there are three golden rules for writing a novel. Unfortunately no one knows what they are, think. Do you know my dad insisted that his name was Somerset Mathem? All right. Did he stick with it forever He did always, he would not let that go. He also was very insistent on antiquity instead of etiquette. Oh I love that That's good. You could have those things in that Now, one thing I wantght to say about Adam is that I was in Edinburgh. and my Now wife and her sister were staying at this place And there was bed bugs Right. So my poor And now sister in law was bitten to pieces and she said, I don't know what to do. It's driving me crazy. And someone said Adam Kays. He's a doctor, isn't he? I'm afraid it was me Adam, I think.. were h literally stopped Adam on the stairs. I think was at the pleasure It was a pleasant. too took her into a or something. We didn't I think I'd like to take credit for making the diagnosis of bed bugs. Oh o. And she said what is this? She did heo for me? And I said, Madam Bed bugs. Right Stay in the last fasting flat please. I like Madam like Churchill's famous room now. I think you're right. you came up with the bed bugs to. He always comes up frank the b. Mysterious rash on the phone to Adam. He solved so many of my problems I would I would say I've not worked as a doctor for fifteen years.. There's an increasing roll of the dice asking me for any kind of medical advice. It must have been like That was ne I was only just out. Yeah. Yeah. I once went in Edinburgh, I went to Harry Hill with a septic tongue Beause he was a doctor and he was a doctor for about fifteen minutes. but was't he? Yeah, but he had. you know those doctor's bags The leather bag? the Gladstone. Yeah. he had one of those with him and he said, I always take this with me. So and he amputated your to He dressed it. Of course being him it was Az aanda No, he did Yeahah he dealt with biceepptic t. It doesn't sound like he's qualified. So yeah Can I say was proper he's a surgeon, okay? Gynecology That is a surgeon. Yeah no, well, not if you ask Frank. No it is. I'm just saying I'm just trying to say Do you and the other comic doctors? do you hang out? Do you have like a WhatsApp group? me and Graham Chapman Well, there's gamap there. there's Carry Hill. there's Simon Broadkin. Mike Wasniac? Simon Broadk. W he a doctor Yeah. That's quite a few with Yeah A pool center Why all comics then? So What' the people say about that? I think So basically decisason to be a doctor when you're sixteen, you know, choosing your A levels and then Y dad was a doctor, is that right? Y. So it was sort of in the blood. It was in the blood also I didn't have any better ideas and he was paying for it. So I ended up being a doctor U and So and you're admitted on having lots of As at A level whichich is I don't know, the best doctors aren't the clerest doctors. I'm not sure how good that is. But also the other thing you need is loads of extracurricular activities. So you have to be you know captain of the Lucrosity or M grade A Oo, whatever it is And so There are all these people going to medical school with all these extra interests. and then I think just a bunch of them after a while think, oh, hang on, I'm going back to the Ober Well, because you also play the piano brilliantly as well I mean, again decreasingly brilliantly as time goes by, but yeah, I went in on the basis of canano and saxophone. It's interesting because I know a man. who is was a GP and who also He was the musical accompany accompany what I can't prescription. Yeah, he played along with Lenny the Lion famous Ventroist A and he was his pianist whileilst still being a GP. Oh wow. Well it's good to have a portfolio career, isn't it Exactly. What is that I guess we can do more than one thing. multi hyphen it. doctor hyphen. But I would li in a compan this. I would say the thing about being a doctor though is it's like the mafia because you can't ever really leave. Once someone finds out you're a doctor, that's it Yeah, but that's the downside. The plus side is you're always a doctor, you know on your ID, so you check in at the airline and say by the way, I'm a doctor. Is there anywhere I could be upgraded to business class? and they abbsolutely not. Really? That never happened right. Have you ever been on a plane or in a restaurant? have you ever Is there a doctor on board? I've had a cou a couple of f E me. So there was in fact the year, I think it was the Year of the bedbug. Chinese Year of the bedbg. I love. I love that Daniel D I was walking back to where I was staying, which was down Dundas Street on the big. And there were various sort of shops andtiki shops and we're walking back, a few of us were staying there and couldn't help but notice someone lying on the ground bleeding to death And and he he'd tried to smash a window to get some antiques but had sort of misjudged house I don't know the material properties of his flesh compared to the glass and ended up sort of bleeding out and so we sort of there was lots of Someone had to sacrifice their t shirt to make a turn o and nine, nine, nine and all of that stuff. So yeah, a bit of that This conversation about planes not long ago, so in my family there's lots and lots and lots of doctors. and my dad was saying that he'd been on a flight, a BA flight And they were asked, is there a doctor in a ping bong? And the correct thing to do, obviously is you don't answer first time they wait for some other sucker to do it, but then it came out again as a doctor and then it waskay And said, wouldould you mind seeing this patient? So he went up And was it was a patient with a slight rash. and it was like, okay Have you got any pirot on And they were like, yes, yes, doctor, we do. So give the patient the birit on then. and then and then everything was fine. that's an antihistemy. That's antiistemy. Oh, he's so good at there. And then so he gets a he gets a letter afterwards saying You can have two free business class flights anywhere in the world for saing the day on the flight by knowing That's worth. I mean, I could have had that You could' have done that. Yeah could have thought you were gonna say you went up and the person was dead and they'd say, F funny you'd answered the first office And then another person around the dinner table pipes up and said, I did CPR an hour and a half whilst they diverted a plane on the world's not favourite airline, sort of a cheaper airline was they got to divert to the painter ever. and they didn't even say thank you. 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Beig just get them all out like ling. Come on. This why they read it and find. So basically I can't being the only person who sat in medical Sope. in these lectures, every so often thinking, o that be a good way to kill someone And then obviously by the nature of the job you then have to, you know rules state you don't do that. and I've previously only written non fictions I haven't killed anyone in real life. but this is a very good opportunity to murder thinly veiled versions of my actual enemies I thought that was o case. yeah, that's why I'm asking. And in fact, one of them, one of the murdereeses I forgot to change their name until about forty eight hours before they did control B print on the actual print run and I woke up in a sweat shit. You probably change that one. So So that was quite a close call legally. Yeah, that's the danger When you're proofing What about your live career? Is that still a big thing for you? or are you gonna to steadily retire into a study at the top of the garden, like Roll D But less like Rll Darly. I.'s Rll Darly I pick the wrong w. What else are you going to say like Jimmy Savill Not that he's like Jimmy Sabill, but you know what I mean that's not every most similies people U I I like but I also like staying in my house and having like dinner and seeing my children and stuff like that. So I'm performing less So like I'm going to Australia at the end of the year and doing a very fasting very fasting. and also nextext year is ten years since this is going to hurt. It's not Oh no. so March of time continues. So I'm so I think I might sort of wheel that out. Ill see what I was thinking Adam. I'm I'm always looking for a good tour name And I think sometimes you know some TV shows only happen because there was a good L Dale Winton got a chat show just because someone came up with Winton's Wanderland. That was the only reason got that. What was your favourite Fank? It was only Falls on horses. I don't remember That was a comic relief thing. And you said at the time it's so obvious It was And then they decided let's teach celebrities to ride because we've come up with this idea But that's fine Adam, you're forty five at the moment. Correct. And I thought in two years time you could do a tour called AK forty seven Yeah I mean to that Begging for it. begging for it. Yeah. It might be a bit of an issue in some states of America? But absolutely fine in the rest of. I think you can have well and We have a Kesnikov in America. sureurely. Trump might be saying nice things. But it's a great title, is? Yeah, done What percentage are you taking for? No, now it's yours. Oh I'm happy to gift it to you. So much. Can I tell you something else I love about this birook? I genuinely do love this book. And I know it's so You shouldn't have saidut the bit at the start where we say we're good friends because it's really undermining a lot of this positivity, isn't it? But you know what it's like You know, we've had it when a friend sends you a book where you get sent the book by the PR and you're just willing it to be good, aren't you You did say you were willing mine to be bad. I was willing it to be bad in your case because you've had your success. Y I've had it. I've been to your house, I don't want you to have any more money But I did get that sense of with this, I think what I liked about it, you were talking about that honesty. And I don't know if this is a peculiarly sort of medic thing or doxer thing And I think comics and doctors maybe have this in common. It is a slight inability to lie. It's a truthfulness, He's a bit like you like that And I love that about your book that it was so authentic. and I love that there I know doctors have to lie as part of their. Oh maybe I've got that wrong. I see them as people who come to the point a bit more. I think you're encouraged not to lie. I mean you prevaricate, don't y you? You're down s to be honest. Don't say guess who's dead. You're down s. You know, youort you try and break news the right way. Yeah you don don't buy a new suit. But you make a point in the book, which I like you were saying, like if you're telling someone they've got terminal illness or something, it's so much better to kind of rip the bandaid off and just say Right I'm afraid it's bad news. you know I mean, I think it's the very old sort of patrician version of medicine where you sort of talk about a slight shadow on the x ray think I think you should be a bit direct about it. Well you are direct. What I also like is that there's no twee O de the bell ringers dead Be you dump us straight into a gase auner I like being c's wor It's worth saying it's not cozy crime. It's whatever the opposite of's itchy It's not midsummer murder. It's not because yeah the yeah, it does there's no way of getting around it it does. does start in a gst order, but that sort of That's It gets rid of the people who aren't going to enjoy the rest of it. Yes. That's a good way of looking at it Of course I sort of worked for you, Adam come to think of it because you edited big book. Oh yeah I. How is that right? I got a letter? I think they've got a letter from you or it glad to be Yeah it was me it was during COVID. I had time to get that And it was like you write will you write a story for the collection? So yeah, No that was really lovely. So we wrote to it's called a hundredundred letters. sort of It was a literary version of the Thirsty H cllap. Remember everyone used to get on their doorstep and clap the. I was go Adams in clap. Yeah, thank you you still do. So it was and But it was thanks to you. I'm going to say entirely thanks to you. So raised it raised about six hundred grand for NHS charity. So it was a nice sort of COVD thing So but yeah, it was a hundred I wrote to the hundred most famous people I could think of U And they they because it was COVID, everyone said yes. like Paul McCartney was like, Yeahah, sure, why not? I remember in the corner of my letter, it said ninety eight Well crucially, where was David Badil? And if just Imagine if David Badil was nice old. I mean, I know it was like the worst time for the NHS, but as Tarles Dickens said, it was the worst of times the best of times. Never did people express their love and admiration more than in that period, I? Yeah, it's just a shame. they forgot about it. Fairly soon afterwards. Yes. well I always think of the twenty twelve opening ceremony thing where the NHS is in that. That's how I think most people see the NHS in that very romantic heroic way, which is a beautiful thing. And you know what? I will say and this probably doesn't show me in a good light, but if I do have to go in to see a GP or hospital? I do drop your name. I know it's wrong. I shouldn't do that. Does it work? Yes, it does. It did wanders. I should try doing that. I know it's wrong, Frank, but contacts is everything and I have dropped it in. Just casually, I really got absolutely five star treatment for my colonoscopy Oh Well How would you drop it in though? I just do it like this. I'm very good at it. I'm very good at it. I just say, yeah, well I was saying to my friend Adam. I don't know if you know Adam actually. He's He used to be a doctorateook. I don't know if you' heard of it, as if they're not going to know it This is going to hurt And then I wit might drop It's awful. It shows me in a terrible light work. And then Madine, we will use a thinner camera There was a thicker camera, whichever. Mad. they have adjustable lenses. no bigiger. Yeah, well I was I was unlfted and say and I dropped Adam's dad's name and got two sw over So let us not go without again saying that the book is called a particularly nasty case. O nasty for a No. If it was called nasty, I wouldn't be probablying Frankly, particularly nasty case by Adam Car. Nop my Allen c. nasty horrible murder Soundo. the docks I love you' Adam Car. doctor Car. doctor Carr, we'll see you now. Hello, doctor Carl. C you help me? Anyway, Adam talks about we help someone with a slight rash and an aer ofine. I know that was his startad as well. So look yes, so it is I know people say this anyway, but it I don't really read sort of Thrillers Detective thingsings, but it did keep me. I did want to know was gonna happen? It's absolutely brilliant. Thank you. I think Ruth might actually finish the audio. No. I will, yeah. That's my theory. I've been listening to it constantly, so I'm on. It says Thanks for listening, my pasous. Yeah So So listen, so thank you Adam. goodood luck with a book. We've already had good luck with a book, but good luck with the paperbacks.aperack more money. Paperbacks are better. They stick them in your pocket. It hurts less when you're reading in bed it falls on your. Oh yeah, and just lighter. I think that's a big marketing campaign for it. Yeah. I mean, they work better as a try The hard back. I'd say that's their one big selling point And props up better on a podcast. I found at Christmas when I had several different presents. would I would uses a foundation, a ppe hard backack to carry them around the house thing to sayound. Give me a paper. You know, there's now if the Beatles had written hard bat writer, that would have been robbish. Somewhat more glamorous about a paper, I agree. So good luck with the paper backack, Adam, you don't need it, but I'm going say anyway, thank you very much for coming on. If I genuinely didn't need it, I'd have said no to coming on here. so I do need it to a certain extent. You'd have said no. I thought it was you had the choice Anyway That's my last time one here, isn't it An fun? So the next episode sorry I'm after do some Oh ye' got do talkself don't talkself. The next episode of Frank Skinnererss Radio dies is out on Wednesday and we're discussing the Winter Olympics TV bedroom scenes and our first live Google search Cal White It's a Frank Skiner podcast A new wter change is blowing. That's the Frank Skinner podcast totally sure how it's going Thanks for listening to the podcast. Make sure to like and follow so you never miss an episode. And if you want to get in touch, you can email the podcast via Frank offff the radio at avalonuK dot comot