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From True Grit (2010) — Jul 1, 2026
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This is Free withith Ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay Paramount plus nine bucks a month for a bunch of modern Westerns when you can go online with your library card for free and watch a modern update of a classic Western that may not teach you about how everyone who lives in a city is either a criminal or a snowflake, but it will make you think long and hard about your dad Daddy Father He was a difficult man, impossible to truly know. But his generation was taught to stand firm and suffer in silence. He did the best with the tools he had Was he proud of me? Did he love me? Oh, daddy, say I'm a good boy. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming Today's movie is True Grit, the twenty ten adaptation of a classic novel with so many dirty beards, you'd think it was filmed in the parking lot of a corn concert. With us as always, this is the super prodroucer, the he freak Matt Lib hitting us with those dang old dag blasted drops! You are not Labif What's up Hey, it's Jue liibrary everybody. happappy Je liibrary.y A a special theme month, Emily thought of the name. Such a good name. It's a great. It's a great name. We're like Emily thought of the name we're like Well, we have to do it. Yes. So here we are. We are watching movies not on Free With Ads websites for this month, but free websites that you can access with your right free without ads. Free and no ads, no ads on these bad boys.. So yeah, we're watching movies from Canopy and Hoopla. if notot all libraries are part of these websites, but if yours is go on there, sign up. It is free. It's cool. And when you use it, your library gets more funding because that's how libraries get their money through use Even if you're not headed in there to, you know, use the printer or check out books, you're still helping a cool thing in your community. Yes, checking out books is why I go to the library computer Not for looking at pornography. No not me No no me Yeah, You can can do that though if you want You can. So today's movie I believe we watched on Canopy. And I think this is just a nice time to kind of remind the people about you know, something about the show You know, a lot of people don't know this, but when you push play on a podcast, the people don't start talking live. Podcasts are recorded in advance. That's right. That's right. don't Yeah, you pressing play doesn't start the people talking. We aren't just sitting there waiting inside your phone. So you know, we're not the musician people in Shiningime Station inide of the jukebox. No. We don't live inside of you So you know, sometimes we record these episodes and the movies move around and stuff and they're on different websites and don't yell at us in the comments because it's not on the thing. Just know that we you know, maybe it recorded in advance. So yeah, but today's movie as of this recording was on canopy and you should sign up for these services with your library card because it's a cool fun thing to do. That's right Hey, before we talk about this movie, which is as of this recording, streaming free with no ads with your library card, we're going to get to know one of our hosts in a segment we call talkalk to host our two host This is this is this is very exciting. If you read the trades like I do, I'm a show business insider. I'm always flipping through variety with my morning lock day. yeah, you love to wake up in the morning and read deadlineight Oops Yeah I'd love to see what. He got so excited talk about breed the trade. Yeah. Sorry guys. I just we had a littleing. Premature sting ejaculation. You're just so stingy. I stung in my pants. Oh good, I gota clean myself I yked We We very exciting show business news, our own super producer, co host of this show is in a feature film. That' all right shit. That's They' putting this out there, you know, because all of us were like, we want to be in a movie. we should be in a movie and then bam, it happened. I I fucking is in a movie and not it's not just like a movie that filmed on some, you know Loton Glendale, you went to Jordan, not the guy the country fil this movie. That's right. Tell us about the movie, who you play and what the freakaking countountry of Jordan is like. Okay, so the movie is called Occupational Hazards. It is it was written directed by this great Palestinian filmmaker Basil Gondor. and he's done a few different movies. One is called Thebbe, one is called The Alleys. I believe Theb was nominated for Best International Picture when it came out And this is a Palestinian comedy about a family in East Jerusalem that's getting their house basically taken from them by the Israeli government. and I play one of the people who is taking the house Wow. Yes. you' playing like one of the jocks from Revenge of the Nerse. one hundred percent. Yes.'re The ogre of this movie. I'm playing one of the the u, you know, like the blonde buully skiers in a eighties ski f. right And yeah, no, it's I play a American Jewish settler who is coming to the Holy Land in order for some great real estate. It is it's a really funny script. and what I really love about it is the fact that a lot of the time These types of stories are They're all important to tell, but a lot of them are of course, incredibly sad because it's an incredibly you know sad situation being a Palestinian. And for me, as someone who also does a podcast about making fun of Israeli propaganda as like an anti Zionist Jew, You know, I like to my only weapon is humor. It's the only way I know how to like deal with anything, right? And all the guns. And the guns. yes, I have many, many guns as my other way guns. Grenades His daughter's got a little pink one. Yeah. a cute princess gun. You gott to teach kids about guns at home so they don't learn about it on the playground Yeah Yeah that's course course exactly. Yes, guns don't kill people. My daughter kills people. Anyways, no, but as someone who who, you know, is coping, you know defense mechanism is humor. I find humor to be as important, if not more palatable than, you know, drama, I guess. And the fact that this is a Palestinian comedy and the cast is incredible. You know, it's a Palestinian cast people that some people you may not know, Hyima a boss is in it who played Marsha Roy in succession. She's like star power. Yeah. yes she's fantastic and it's a really funny script and yeah, Basil frrein I listened to my podcast and cast me and my co host in the movie is totally random and amazing and hilarious. and I'm super excited about it. Sper excited about it. What was the country Jordan like? Jordan Rules. Okay, so Jordan is an incredible Its It's an incredibly beautiful country with so I stayed in Aman, which is the capital,'s like the big city there for most of the time. It's built on a shit ton of hills. Um, so if you want to go anywhere, you really have to be prepared to hike up Mbe flights of two hundred stairs in order to sh it in order to go a few blocks, which is fucking insane. I got a good workout while I was there. And then also it's, you know, the people are awesome. Everyone there is like it is It must be so culturally stigmatized to be impolite that it's it's almost like You cannot go anywhere without if you meet someone They will just invite you to eat dinner with them. It is just like incredibly sweet. I like went over to some random guy's house, me and Daniel who who my coost on Badz Bara, we went to their house. We tried Monsoft, which is like this U It's lamb and rice and this like fermented yogurt and you're supposed to like eat it with your hands And I'll be real with you. I was like Guys, you know, I I You know, I love and respect every person here in this culture in this country. I'm gonna eat this shit with a spoon I am am a I am a dandy. I am a dandy. I am a straight dandy. I just I can't I can't stomach the idea of making my hands that dirty. And they were all like, it's fine. We're all gonna to eat it with a spoon too, except for this one guy who's kind of a freak about it. But no, it's beautiful, it's awesome. Everyone there is nice. And also the big surprise was so many people speak English that I didn't even like I got to come in like a dumb ass American and just be like, I know one language. Can you help me? And they're all like Yes, we can help do you have McDonald's? Yeah and they do. I mean it's pretty good too. I had to stop myself from going to a McDonald's just because not because I particularly, you know, like I love McDonald's, but because I was like, I wonder what McDonald's in Jordan is like. I didn't do it, but I did have a Buffalo of Wild wings there What Yeah It was right near the hotel. There's a Buffalo wild w it's like hourist. It's it's actually it's their own brand. It's a Jordan brand called Buffalo Wings and Rings. And it was incredible, dude. Like they they know what the fuck they're doing with wings and rings. like okay. What do you guys say like onion rings? is Oion rings, baby. got onion rings. They got jalapeno poppers They got all of the shit it just it made me feel re at home. Did you have the jalapeno poppers? Yes. I a huge jalapeno poppers head. Me too. Were they good? Were they good? They were delicious and they have like a very special like of jalapeno that I've never had anywhere else It grows I guess just in Jordan or in the Middle East. and it's like a thin one. It's like a hf half serreno pepper, half jalapeno pepper, and it was baller. suuper good cheese. Check it out. It It was dope, dude. The food there is incredible. Every was everythingverything was great.one And I saw a nice picture of you on a camel. I went on a camel guys I went on a camel that was in the south at Petra Um Petro is an old old ancient city. used to be the treasury, I believe. You might have seen it from Indiana Jones and the last Crusade, they're like running through there. Okay They shoot a bunch of desert movies in Jordan too. Like if you've ever seen Dune Or if you've ever seen Star Wars or the Martian or Bucin anywhere where there's like any of these? Yeah. Yeah, Giant desert expanse. It's like, oh, that's that's Wy Rum. That's what. So yeah, it was pretty sick guys. it was pretty dope. I'm very excited. The movie's not going to come out tntill next year, I'm sure But very excited that, you know, I got to be in a Palestinian comedy. So Can I ask what what Can I know what your costume looked like I dressed up as in the most like tourist version of myself. So I wore Um a hat that has like a big long back. you know, those like It's like it's like a hat that is got a flappy end So you don like cover the sun on your neck. if you don't burn your neck. It's a mullet but a hat. It's like a mullet hat exactly. Yeah Yeah. And you know, as soon as you see it, I know onnce we cover it on this podcast Uh, I will get the . It what a thrill to be the man who wears the worse the man. you know what? And I am also this guys I'm B. Y. sure. I hate I hate to just get off your very exciting news for a second. But you playing those thingsings back to back reminded me that I do feel like I let everybody down last week when we reveed reviewed Silent Hill S Pyramidhead is probably the guy who is the tallest guy with the worst M the first time it's ever happened on the show. So calling that out right now. That's fair. way we got a person in the road sting. so that we never get to use that one. so yeah Well, Matt we're very excited for you. We are very excited to maybe review the movie on the show. Should it be posted on Zoomo playay or I can only hold ass website. P me on Tubie. If I could just get on Tubbe be onbe to be. Listen, we're all on Tubbe, whether you know it or not. Oh that's right Yeah, Mythical is there's twenty four seven Mythical morning show that all three of us are on. There is a Tubie and Pluto channel. So like people take pictures and send it to me. They're like, I'm at a laundromat and you're on the TV. That's crazy. That means I accidentally unbenownbeknownst to me. I've already lived my dream and can die Yes ine Don't die. What antic climate. We need you to edit this episode. That's true. can No dying today. Well before we all pass away, we should do one more episode about true grit. Yeah. Very exciting. So I'll check in. H anybody seen this? Has anybody seen the John Wayne movie or is anybody read I have never seen the John Wayne movie and I've not read the book because you know me.in't reading. But J liibrary though, I came up with the word so I hope that makes up for my lack of reading Yes it does But yes, I saw True Grit and I have a fun story about it. kind of You saw a fun story about seeing this version that about the movies. Okay yes, please. When I graduated college, I moved back to Nashville for a little while, did stand up for three years. O. Anyway And I did this regional or community theater show called My First Time and it's like kind of like the vagina monologues, but it's about people losing their virginity. Okay There was one I didn't get to do this one, but there was one lady who talked about how they would shake up a bottle of Coca Cola and shove it in their pussy as birth control after they had sex. Okay. Okay I got that. And it was really emotional. Like the monologue was super emotional and I was like, this is the craziest shit Whatever. Anyway, so I did that play at the Dark Horse Theater in Nashville, Tennessee But it's an old church, the Dark Horse theater. It's really cool. But there's like multiple theaters inside of it One day when we were rehearsing in the basement is where they were holding the auditions for the little girl for trrue Git.ck. So I'm sure they did auditions in different cities, but in Nashville, they were like I was like well what's going on therere Like it's Cohen brothers movie. It's like a western And they're auditioning like young girls. I'm like, how young I'm like, I' woking my pussy hat. I read it already. I could just I'm literally up there talking about like fucking in the back of a car and I'm like, I could play a little girl with braids. Let me do it. Pa. I could put I could put on Pa's hat. Yeah, exactly. So but and I did like you had to cross down there to get to the dressing rooms and stuff And I could hear them like there were people waiting in line to go in. And I was like, what if I just got in line and just went I'm not here for that part, but I'll do anything else. There's not very, many women in this movie except for that little girl. But yeah, so that was a cool thing. And then I saw the movie and I was like, wow, this girl is awesome. Like it's an incredible performance. and yeah, like have to find a kid that age You can do that dialogue is u wild. yeah And just like, I don't know, you be likeable and annoying at the same time. know good. It's an incredible performance. And she's in Sinners as well kind of doing a similar accent and Sinners, so that's good. Oh yeah. no, I know I really like her in the Disney pllus Hawkeye show. She plays the other Hawkeye And you know, like that Marvel dialogue can sound real bad coming out of a bad actor. She fucking nails it. She. G dude. I hope that we're gonna see more of her. I know that we are, but I'm I think that she'll be around forever, but itful Ebs and F. Yeah That's. Her name is Haley Steinfeld. Yeah, she's cool as Yeah You know, because it sounds like me. Yeaheinf you deal with my pa being mured by Cheney. you guys ever had your dad killed by Tom Cheney and he goes to join Lucky Ned Pepper. What is Lucky Ned Pe missing California gold piece. What's up with that I just have those ready. I don't know why. That's great. No,, Thank you for having those at the ready. That's right So so yeah, let's let's oh yeah, I should say I Yeah everybody seen it I have seen this version as a white man who's been to college. I have to see every Cohen Brothers movie so I can them with other white men who have been to college. That's right. You do And I've read the book a couple of times. The book's one of my favores. really I did most of the dialogue from this movie is just from the book.ow because it's so Coen brothersy, but like it is. Apparently they are writing Charles Portesy, so there you go. How old is the book? Is it really older? It's from the sixties? Yeah. I think when the Johny Wayne movie came out it was cururrent hit book or something, so That makes sense. And the book the book's terrific. There's a great audio book version of it that's what a great narrator does all the characters, it's fantastic. Yeah I had seen the movie. So I never read the book, never saw the original And so I was very excited that we chose this Be Well you chose it When I say we, I meant me. I'm very excited that me chose this because I have too. One of those movies that I was like, you know what? been it's been a minute and I'd love to revisit it Yeah yeah, let's talk about it. It starts out with a Bible verse. You know the movie's gonna be good when you get a little Bible verse on screen the wicked flee when no man pursueeth. What? Crazy. so true. Yeah, so true, man We get a little voice over. I also flee when no like I'm always kind of fleeing too. Sure. I mean, aren't we I'm not even wicked. I just am paranoid. I' got flease.le help pursue it. Yeah. Ver nice. Vy good. V good. show, good podcast. great podcast. It is very good. So this yet little voice overver, Hailey Steinfeld playing Maddie talking about how her father was killed by the coward Tom Cheney So she's like going into town to like deal with her father's murder. like he was shot at a hotel in another town. So she goes to the undertaker love, an old West underndertaker. This is a great kind of guy, great kind of guy to pop up in a movie. He really wants her to kiss that corpse. He He sure does Yeah He keeps reminding her you can kiss him. You would All right I think that's like a new feature of the embalming like chemicals that he's got. It's like you can kiss them now. It used to be now you could not kiss them. peopleeople were dying left and right, but now I got some good chemicals. would you would get lip fever should you kiss a corpse embalmed incorrectly. You guys ever heard so there's like kind of creepy true crime legend stuff. and there's like stories of womomen who like go to the doctor with this crazy rash around their mouth and it's like really bad and they're like, we don't know why why is this happening? And then they test it and then they they're like, have you been on a date with someone new recently She's like, Yeahah, and we kiss and it's like, This is the bacteria that you only get fromrom like kissing a deb Kissing a debt a coursepse. That happens, you guys? Do it Well, that's what they say on the internet. heard on podcasts. true heard podcast. Also when a lady wears a green ribbon around her neck and then she takes it off her head fall. It's the same thing.'s right. And yes, and finally welcome to the world of AIDS Remember that one Yes, I do. Anyway, so yeah, she does not kiss her dad's corpse, but she wants to find a lawman to kill to kill the guy who killed her father, Tom Cheney So she goes to kind of like the headlg guy, the sheriff of the town and she's like, is there, you know, is there a marshal there who can who can do this for me? It's a great fucinking scene where the this is right out of the book too. This is just a dialogue from the book. That's so cool. So the dialogue in the book is like snappy Yeah kind of Yeah, it is. That's so cool U yeah, the marshal is like kind of describing all or the sheriff is describing all the marshals he she could get. and like he describes all these competent men. and in the middle She's like Rooster Cogburn is a pitiless man And like talks about what a just a mean piece of shit he is. Yeah, exactly. have all these competent guys you can use or this fucking mean piece of shit. And he brings in his men. He brings them in or he kills them. dead or alive. That's true. But all of the the competent people he lists, it kind of feels like a video game where it's like, choose your player And it's like I want to be Many guy who's like He knows the territory, like the b a Spanish guy with a claw. Yeah, like pick that guy, the first guy goted great. Well the last guy is great ' it's like he's got a heart of gold and he'll sometimes, you know if he lets one go, he does it because he believes that it's the right thing to do. And then she's like, getet me the murderer. Yeah. get me the drunk murderer This here's so we love the Cohen brothers, of course. I mean, watching this movie, it's like, God, nobody has style and like like this, it's just Oh Wes Anderson wishes he is these guys Like it's because sometimes the dialogue I was like, this is feeling a little Wes Anderson sometimes and I'm like, that motherfucker could never sorry, no offense. love I know I know. it's so and it's like they are they are, you know, and they do have some movies that are like little too fussy and a little too weird. I'm thinking about the lady killers where like I've never seen that and I want to see it really bad because I don't think it's a bad movie, but it is like people trashed it like It is like their version of like a little too cute, a little too like, but this is just like like our Dads would love this movie. Oh dads love Western but that it is like well, elevated because of the great dialogue and the great acting and Jeff Bridges, but also yeah, me and my dad watch Westerns. It's like so. We do. So I talked to him on the phone last night, was telling him we're gonna watch Trurit. He goes, Oh Tru grit I know. is like the intersection of like Normy Dad and like Fussy college film weirdo. L this is the movie everyone can agree on. But also I feel like young girls like kids like ten year old girls could like maybe watch this with their dad. I thought it's like there's a scrappy young girl in this and she's really fun and smart and She did remind me a little bit of Jennifer Jason Lee in Hudsucker Proxy. There's like because another great female scrappy character. They love scrappy Female characters, if you see the most recent season of Fargo Juno Temple plays a very like very much like this. So they are maybe not involved with those, but because of they' inspired by it sure because she was a scrappy little girl character. So Yeah, no, this man, I'm stoked. Yeah U So yeah, so she she hires Rooer Cogburn. He's a drunk. The first time she meets him, he's like in and out house and he like tells her to come back He was working hard too. I was like leave the muck alone. I I was going to die in there I know. He's like he's trying to pinch one out.'s like bothering. Yeah. she finally gets him. He's coming out of this like he's testifying at a trial where he like killed a bunch of guys and they kind of catch him on this thing where they're like, well, did you move the body? And he's like, I don't remember. But he's just very blas about remembers he does it all the time. Yeah, he's just trying to get out of there Um, So yeah, but she comes up to him, you know, like in the courthouse and says that you're a man with you're a man with true grit. Yeah Leonard real. There's the title. Yeah. All right, let's do it movie I don't know. movie title. Yeah. O, that is interesting that work It happens in Ver mo. Yeah, I love a good titular shout out. Ellie And she he starts to roll this is this is just such a fucking great little d. He starts to roll a cigarette and she's like, Yeah give me that. and she like does it for. That was cool. You could tell she did it for her dad. Yeah. And then yeah, that's great. It kind of like recurs throughout the thing. She's always rolling a cigaretttees for him. It's very cute Um, And she superhero, I feel like. She's like a comic book hero. amount of the amount of skills and like knowledge she has about random shit It about the law. Yeah Yeah about movie just like quoting the law. like including knowing like the Latin terms for things. It is she's such a She's a genius. She was talking about laawyer Daggget. She apparently which maybe this guy doesn't exist. I think he does because he was on the I think Oh call him on the phone. Yeah. Yeah do And you do hear his voiceover in a letter or something. Yeah That's what it was. It was a viceover in a letter. not got access a phone by now. Totally. But yeah, it was and her role in have you guys, do you guys know how to roll a joint or roll a cigarette? I have never been a long time ago. I probably could do it. I got shy hands. I can't do. I can't I feel like such a like I can barely eat soup with the spoon So I cannot roll a cigy. Yeah, but her negotiation skills too this littleible. Have you guys negotiated for things in one I I bought a car recently and like tried to be kind of tough about it and I I think I eventually got got a good price, but I did this thing where I So here was my technique that I learned from Reddit was I called an out of state car dealership. told them I was going to Um told them I was going come into the gu I was going to go to I was like, it's cheaper in Arizona. I'll go to Arizona and I'll get the car there. justust to get somebody to send me a quote. And then I sent this quote to a bunch of car dealerships and the area to see if anybody could beat it Oh u And it's and it led to this thing where I had all these like scumbags calling me and going, We'll beat it. We'll beat it. and then like somebody I yes, it was like kind of a fun auction thing. It did lead to me picking a car Dving to Downy getting there and then going, we don't have the car I just f mad and stormed out. But I eventually did get the car at that price. but that's like the only wheeling and dealing I've ever done in my life the getting a car thing, of course, I don't drive and so I don't know anything about that process. It sounds like I don't know, like like hieroglyphics, like figuring out how to how to buy a car. That's so smart though. I hope that people enjoy that little tidbit Yeah welcome. It's a good idea fans I've negoti I've like negotiated things in my life and it worked out and then it has not most of the time. It one day I'll get good at it. This little girl made me go all right You gott to just not give up. You gott to just keep going annoy refer constantly to lawyer Daggget.wyer Daggget and different different statutes of the law that allow you to to re a horse cheap for to read if I wanted to do that. I just make it up. Just say just learn a little bit of Latin just enough to fool a guy like that horse deealer. Yeah So yeah. so she so yeah, she she puts one over on this horse dealer. She like, yeah, like, you know, outlaws him. She gets a horse named Blackie to go on this adventure with Rooster Cogburn and at her like boarding house where she's staying, there's a there's a dude smoking on the porch. and it was one of those like jump scares. Oh, I forgot he was in this. It's fucking Matt Damon M D L beef spell L EBO U F but he That's how it's spelled. This was L Bef. Yeah. Yeah, right, right. This is Itlled like L Bouf, but it's LBou. Yeah They make it they do a thing about her in the book where she's like, it's spelled like this, but he always said it like so he's like saying his own name wrong I okay, it's such fucking great casting. Matt Damon is such a funny dumb guy. Yeah. He just he's, you know, we know him as like being pretty good at playing generic heroes, but like he is such a funny dumb guy I think this just like is such a great use of him. He's so comedy. He was kind of the comedic He like was hilarious in and yeah, like Yeah and it's great watching him play the type of character who's just really into the fact that he is like a Texas Ranger. R L I mean, one of his last lines is he just goes ever Stalwart as as they're riding away. It's just so funny. It's a great character for him to play It is his like mutton chops. What is it where the mustache attaches into the mutton chop? I don't know. it's an old time president facial hair Sper cool But he's also kind of a creep in the beginning. a creep And then later on you're like, he's not that big of a creep. Like he's like it's a creep, but Yeah, he kind of redeems himself at the end. But yeah. the people like I like the characters in this the two male, like, you know, Jeff Bridges and him because you think you got them pegged on who they are and what they're all about and they swap like they do swap. Yeah. They reveal like sides of themselves that you wouldn't necessarily expect. And I really love it She's who she is though. Yeah. So he is also after Tom Cheney and this is great. this is a very coohen brrothersy thing, this kind of joke, this joke where you get a little bit of information, but not enough. He's saying he is after Tom Cheney because he shot a senator over an argument about a dog and then he does not say anything else about it. You like you hear him talking about it a little bit later, but I love these kinds of jokes where someone just says something needs so much more explanation but doesn't do it. Anyway It's just saying stuff I like from this good movie there' a funny podcast for you to listen to? I don't know. I think it's we could be both interesting and funny at the same time. We possess multitudes. Exactly. Yes.. And you know, maybe people aren't listening for comedy. they have, you know, yes some weird thing Well, they're here for car dealership they're here for car shopping let's be honest U where this is their sleepy time This sleepy guys here. They're falling asleep right now. Soothing, soothing. Not because we're boring, but because that is number one That's y. This is number one compliment for any podcastou I don't know I would touch Ver interested freebes. That's what we call our friend our our friends and fans Yeah ye When do you listen to our podcast? Yeah Morning, morning, night, lunch, like or when you're on the treadmill, like what when are you listening to Oh does anyone fuck this? Oh my God, if you fucked this Okay so mad fry D't do it. If you fucked this, you need to move the body that's in the basement. You have to move it somewhere else. A after you wan Um anyway you know, I think Jeff Bridge is probably the tallest guy in this movie. What do you think? I think you're probably right. Tallest guy. Anyway. Okay. u so so he's he's kind of like joins the joins the party L Bef. He's like, you know, he's like a tough talking asshole Jeff Bridges doesn't like him. He The LB Beef tells a story about having to drink water from a horse's hoof print. and Jeff Bridge is just like, Oh, every Texas ranger tells me that story. I getess you all just love drinking from a footprint. Yeah they are at it with each other from the beginning. Yeah, they're talking about like who he served under. I guess Rooster Cochburn supposed to be a Confederate ex Confederate soldier at one point like they're just arguing over like whose general was better. It's it's like the arguments they get into are so petty too. They get into a shooting contest at one point It is it is amazing watching Matt Damon do jokes about the fact that Jeff Bridge's character has one eye. Yeah, no, and it's like you have this little girl that's pretending to be an adult And then these two grown men that act like acting like little kids I know it's really great. It's really fun. yeah, and you can kind of tell like that's the role she played in her family. That's why she's fucking there. That's why no one else in her family is doing this shit ' she's just like the family grown up. And like there are families like that where like the there's just a kid who takes charge And ye, you could tell she's just doing it for these guys too. I think she's doing it for the love of the game too. I think she was so she likes it. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think she loved her dad so much and then he was kind of like this that she's like he would want me to like exactly what he would do. I'm going to go do it. Yeah. But yeah, it's you really hate L Beef in the beginning because he kind of does this creepy thing where she's sick in bed at the hotel and he's just sitting there in front of her in the room and you're like, youw, but I don't remember what they talked about, but at the end he was like, I could have stolen a kiss, but I didn't ugly. He's like, you're so ugly that I didn't do it. And I'm like, yeah, okay, that's one reason to not kiss a fourteen year old, but sure But then he like spanks her with a switch because he's like she's mouthing off to him and he's getting his ass handed to him because he's an idiot. likeike she's smarter and And I was like, I hate the beef and then towards the end of. it kind of comes around. the beef is okay. Al this on this like theme of she's doing what her dad would do, before she leaves the boarding house, she gets his gun and she puts on his clothes and his hat doesn't is too big for her. so she puts in a little newspaper so the hat fits. That was cool. And her outfit is maybe one of my favorite outfits in a movie ever Yeah, she looks awesome. everyverybody looks awesome in That green like long kind of wool felt jacket looks like like a peendleton type thing and then this big like brown leather belt over The overcoat. I was like, God, this is a cool movie. Anyway. U So yeah, so they on the little adventure they find a house where there's just like two two guys, two scuzzy guys, classic big guy, little guy combo U Yeah, classic like Bugs bunny gangsters, one big guy, one little guy. A little guy played by Domal Gleason, Domhal Gleason his dad Brendan Gleason pops up in our bonus content for this R. Okay, you're gonna have to tell me everything that you just said. I don't know what's going on. Oh, that's o So Domel Gleason, you would recognize him. He's kind of that guy from that thing. He. He was in he's in the new Star Wars movies. He's was Black Mirror. You've seen him before Yeah. Spunky little Irish guy and Brendon Gleason is, you know, you know, a famous Gleason. bigig guy. Yeah. I feel so bad That's you should not. Do not this just you'll know both m names. names. They both are in the familyans. know our fans Yeah are definitely not googling this in this moment I probablyrobably not, but that's okay So big guy little guy, they were kind of like they were kind of in with the gang They start arguing and and start killing each other. The little guy, Domo Gleon's fingers get chopped off, he get stabbed and then Roooster shoots the other guy. And I just like when this happened, I'm like, oh yeah, in Cohen Brothers movies when someone dies, you fucking feel it. Like these aren' just theseese are just like guys who had one scene. They're like random goons but like they're Deaths are very like I don't know, Wadeady, like you know, you know, you feel bad for him. The guy's like, don't let the wolves eat me. He's just like Oh my wolves are gonna e And he's negotiating with him as he's saying he knows he's gonna die and he's still negotiating. There's a lot of negotiating in this b maybe. But yet it's like also Westerns feel it harder because You're like, o, fuck that death would suck. Like you feel it in your bones. Like have you guys heard that there are tons of rattlesnakes in the city of Los Angeles right now I have heard that I hadn't heard that. I didn't want to hear that. I'm sorry but it might be that local news thing where it's like shark attacks killer bees but I do think there have been random It's like I'm hearing that it's just on the trails like if you go hikingike No trail Yeah one the three of them got to be just fine. Jang out of Airan. But that's crazy to me. I don't know. Anyway, there's a lot of snakes in the in Westerns, especially in this movie. There is one. So they they have their kind of like first lead as to where U, where where the Ned Pepper gang featuring Tom Cheney is. And this kind of leads to the final shootout. So why don't we take a little break? We'll come back, We'll finish it up Hey Max fun listeners. It's me, Jackie Kacishation. I have a podcast with Laurie Kil Martin. sayay, Hi Lurie. Hi, Jacqueline. Hi Max fun listeners. Wh not very formal. We have a podcast and it's about stand of comedy and how much we love it and how much we dislike some of it. So listen to that podcast. It's called the Jackie Laurie Show new episodes every Wednesday that gives us plenty of time to decompress from our comedy weekends and discuss things with sane level heads. No, it doesn't.ike if you are a woman our age or a man our age, or you know what? any person of any age, I think you'll enjoy your past Jackie and Lorie Show on maximumfun dot org Hey, we're back. It's free with adds. It's Tue Library. We're talking about true grit. Okay. So yeah, so they kind of like, you know, they kind of know where to find the Ned Pepper gang. There's this kind of original shootout. They get somebody. they don't know if it was him And then they kind of go out and they they know he has a silver claim, but he's not there. So everybody kind of just fucking gives up And then Maddie goes to the water to like get go to the river to get water for the horses and she fucking sees him. He's right there. anotherother oh my Godd, I forgot he was in this jump scare, Josh Broowlin. Hell yeah. kindind of doing a buffalo Bill voice. I love the R trucks doing this voice fuck me. It was a little like Jeff Bridge's voice too. And that was like were the two drunks. So that's just how you sound. I think it was old tiny old Western drunk vers like I I love that they do because these everybody in this movie could just coast on their persona, but like everybody's got a little take, everyverybody's got a little die. It's. I love that they made they made choices. It's great when an actor makes choices. It's true. everyverybody and that's the thing. there's big like weird kind of swings in acting choices in Cohen Brothers movies and this didn't disappoint. There are plenty of those Yeah. Yeah. The camp just makes it better. There's something the way Cohen Brothers do it that it's like the fact that, you know, we wait this whole movie to see Tom Cheney and it's played by Josh Broowland and he's got like a catchphrase like Yeah, theout he just keeps going like nothing ever goes my way or something's like he says the same line multiple times. I was like, I love this. I love that this was the choice. And in their gang, they have a guy who just makes edible noises. I don think this is the book. This is they have a littleot guy who when you see him, he's making turkey noises And then when they're riding away, someone's like, do the donkey. and he does a donkey noise and they all laugh. This guy's just there to do animal imp. Is he like a traveling minstrel of the West? No idea. no idea where he com from. Its about your travels. He just does animals. Animals he's seen Yeah But yeah, this is great. The whole gang full of just like hilarious and of com. Of course, Ned Pepper played by Berry pepper. That's funny. Yeah That's that guy's real name. His real name is Barry Pepper. Wait, is it Ned Pepper in the book Yeah It is Lucky Ned Pepper is the name of the So yeah, it's a weird thing of like, I wonder how they If they landed on be funny if we got Berry peepper. I mean's great in it. So good. so underrated as an act is. And you know what I think it is. I think it's becausecause he was in Battlefield Eth. I really think it's because he's the human in battlefield Eth. And I think you just don't get that stink off you That sucks because he's terrific. He's great in this. I think that he could after he could come back. like everybody' forget about that. alsoso we should totally do battlefield. I have never seen it. That's what the new universe. I haven't seen it either. That's what they should replace Waterworld Yes. They just find another disaster, find another huge bomb to make out of the pull out of man. Oh yeah. The Jilli stage experience. It's Turkey Tab It just like explosions of wet Hell yeah, explosions of wet. Is out of line. I've never seen Julie it's tragedy tim. I didn't know that. I just like a character is trying to get pregnant and convinces somebody to do it. She a turkey based her? Yeah. Well she's yeah, kind of Shees she goes, it's turkey time, Gobble, Gble Jesus. We got what do that? What should we watch first Gie or Battlefield Earth? I don't know We'll watch them at the same time and see if they sync up Um So yeah, so this is kind of like the final shootout. They kidnap Maddie, but she is able to like shoot she's able to shoot Brolin with her dad's gun, but she falls in a hole with a bunch of rattlesnakes. She gets bit by a snake U you know, Jeff Bridges goes down there. He like sucks out the poison, fucking and then Matt Damon gets like the kill shot on on Ned and Por pepper. That was a cool scene about him like It's great. I know and you don't and you see him shoot and you're just like it takes a minute before you see the little figure off in the distance just slump over Yeah, make wonderfully beautifully shot action scene. The speed of bullets then versus like now like how fast is that bullet? It did take a take forty five minutes to get over there. U So yeah, it's a wonderful scene and then so you know, Jeff Bridges is trying to get trying to get her to help because she has this snake bite. They leave Damon behind Um He like so to make it go faster, he like stabs littleittle Blackie, the're writing little bllack. Oh God, I hateated this part Little Blackie just just collapses and dies. It's awful.' The only time where u Haley Steinfeld's character cries. Oh I know. Yeah L there's multiple times where she is like certainly going to die in this movie. Like, you know, it she's left alone with Tom Cheney. she gets caught by Ned Pepper. anyy of these moments It would make most little girls cry, but instead it was the death of her horse. was her horse that she negotiated for like like tooth and nail bought this for herself. Yeah. Also it's alluded to that this is a really good horse. like They're watching her cross a river peopleople are like, whoa, your horse is a bad ass. Lgend Lgend of Arteax fuck you.uck Arax littleittle Blackie now.. Drake turning away from Atex, Drake turning toward little Blackie as far as dead moovie horses we. Oh, you know I'm doing that meme in the social. Do the meme. You know Everybody would like that meme. Hell, yes U anyway but they like, you know last minute make it to like this house. We didn't mention this guy. This is I think I'm pretty sure this guy's an invention for the movie. A guy in a bear pelt who says he's like a dentist and a veterinarian. Yes. He doctor. He said like y'all need medical assistance. She says do either of you need Probably J the most standout character of this whole movieul. And it does not come back. It is not necessary. think he's gonna save the day at the end, but he's just there for one scene. Y. He exists for that. For me, I liked it because it reminded you there is no one to help you out here exxcept for each other So and that's the doctor if you find out That's what you're dealing with Wor craziest got a hope who trying to buy a corpse off you Yeah and that he's like, I pulled out all his teeth. You're welcome to have what's left and you're like why the teeth? L Well because he could get something for it. love I love that he he traded for it. He traded Tw dental mirrors and a bottle of expect Damn, man, that was good. And he's wearing like a This huge bearhead like I have my bears skin. Oh yeah, they go. Do you do we're looking for shelter and he goes, Well, I've got my bears skin. I'm like bears skin And alsoso the teeth thing I wonder because you guys know that when I knocked out my teeth from the roots. they came out completely whole. I didn't ship them. They slid out. I hit the floor on an angle and they slid out and were wholeo on the floor And we could just put them back in they did. That's the thing. And I'm wondering, does that work with other people's teeth? Like if you're is was that a thing? But yeah, no, they u Yeah, they put him back in and for seven years they were good and then one of those died and they had to come out. I had those gray teeth. I would have been that gray teeth girl. Like Isn't that crazy? But anyway, yeah, I was like, I wonder if people Back then. a tooth in a socket and it would regow even if it wasn't your tooth. Yeah I'm going to Google all this stuff guys. Google. Yeah, let' us know. So we get so he finally makes it to finally makes to a house just like at the very last second. and then we kind of get a little epilogue with Maddie doing doing voiceover. She lost her arm so we could, you know, see adult her like without an arm. lost because of the the rattlesnake poison And she kind of loses track of both Roooster and Le Beef. She is able to find that Rooster is like in one of these wild West shows like . Those looked fun as fuck. I bet they were great I think a lot of people those died at them. one hundred percent. Yes, especially the cowboys themselves have dying of a heart attack, you know. Oh my I was thinking about this though. You know how like they say if you get bit by a rattlesnake, you should like, I guess heiss on it did too. Well this is hang on, Matt, you just read my fucking mind. So he's like he sucks the poison out. You always hear that you're supposed to suck the poison out of a snake bite. Did't fucking matter. She still had to lose an arm. And then it makes me think about is that fake like how they say you're supposed to piss on a jellyfish sting? D piss on a jellyfish the snake venom goes away. Right likeike you did you find a jellyfish piss on it? then the snake venom erodes? Yeah Wellt m sense. Did you ever hear that as a kid that if you get a jellyfish sting, you should not p on it Or have someone else piss on it That and it's not real. you guys, it's not ne way to find it? just a wayait It's an excuse to piss on your friends. So this was just an excuse for an old man to suck on a little girl's hand. It' like that seems like U So yeah. so she makes to the Wild West show asks for Roster Cogwurn, but they're like he died he died three days ago And they're like, we had some very lively times. And they're like, how did you know him? And she's like, we had some very lively times too Um And then they she found she was buried at a Confederate cemetery, but then she had the body moved to her family's cemetery. You can kind of tell she got rich. They don't like explicitly say. there's no way that little girl ain't get rich.. And there's a shot of his coffin going into a train with like her name written on it that's the same as her dad's coffin going Be she's a pro now transporting a dead body's another dad, two dads I love that scene too where she finds out like because you're not sure like, o, I wonder what time and losing her arm did for this person. And she finds out, you know, from this guy runs a traveling Wild West show uh that, you know, her friend is dead and it's all very sad. And then next to that guy explaining this to her is another dude seated and She as she's leaving, she goes, keepeep your seat trash and then wal away. Yeah. It wass like, I love her. I love her. Shes still got it. Yeah. There is like a southern kind of like saying like those kind of little isms that you can do. I was I think I want to make a mission for myself that I say to hell I won't more often. That's a good one to hell I won't L like I think as We all gota do it for that. Yeah. Jordan has his yes mamas I've got Yes mama. M toll out and left no Can that be a sting left, no crumbs? I have no problems. Left noe. Alex you'd say it with Rolly Alex eightight and left L no No. says Vincent Pryice. Hey, that's what happens in True Git. We're gonna tell you what we thought of the movie, but first we gotta do the Hunk Watch. It's Hunk Watch U you know, a lot of great hunks in this film, a lot of lot of filthy, a lot of dirty people men of men who have dirt on them. So, you know, maybe a little bit hard to feel sexual about these people. For who? Wh is this You know you know what I'm talking I will speak for myself. forself speaking for myself. Um I just talking about him made me realize how good he is. I'm going to give it to Barry Pepperoy. Barryer you know, he's maybe partially in Hollywood jail, maybe not his fault. Barry Pepper. The cool thing about him though he looks like he could exist in any time period. Like I could see him in Spartacus. I could see him in a Western I could see him in like a noir like he's get him back in the movies unless he's unless he's done something bad spell out inless. Oh, you know, Bry I'm looking I'm looking at the Ppper IMD Yeah He was't say He was in crawl. That's good. O, that's a good one.ese maze runner movies that I haven't seen but they made Oh goodine. P Ppper great. We'd like to see him more often. like He should have been a leading man, but he it was the yeah, it was the damn L Ron Hubbard movie ruined it for him. Which is sucks because he's not even a scientologist He was just doing a movie. He was doing a movie. He thought it was going to be Star Wars. He's like this is going to be my Star Wars. I mean some like comedians go to a cage fight on the Lawn of the White House. That's true And they're fine. They're doing fine. So Nobody seems to care. No one gives you shit anymore. Throw Berry pepper into one of these yellow stones. Throw them in a yellow stone. put sh in. Oh, he should really be in a yellow stone. That's craz in a yellow stone All. Anyway, anybody else any thoughts on the Hunks of film? I would fuck every Like, dude that went on this adventure. Yeah. All of them are fuckable. I'm Bearman. especially Baran. Oh really? Bearman's my guy. I just feel like he's the most pleasant dude to ever just like walk into a movie and walk right out. He's having a great time. I would love to just walk into, you know, any situation and have Barman and try to sell me a fucking dead body My favorite thing about that scene is that Jeff Bridges is getting bored with the conversation. Like he's talking about crazy shit and he's like Yeah. it's like I can't wait to be out of this conversation. I do have okay, so I do have a hunk actually. Yes.. It is the The horse guy that she has to negotiate with multiple times. Okay. And he just the way he's getting frustrated, I was like this is the unsung performance of the movie. L that Brers ass guy, that guy neverever seen him before in my life, couldouldn't recognize him. It was such a great performance and how just like exhausted he was with negotiating with this little girl. It was so funny. I love that guy. He's the best. Matt, any thoughts on hunks is the bear man ar Oh, the bearmand. Okay, yeah, okay, yes.. I think that's fucking gross, but like fine So each their own. Well, we are going to rank Tue grit on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials when we come back Are you a celebrity Are you searching for meaning, connection and a little levity these days I'm Camela Nanciiani, actor, writer, and yes celebrity too And I've got four words for you Bullseye with Jesse Thorne. Are you tired of junkets carpets, sick of the endless spicy snacks you have to eat Do you want to connect with someone who gets your work laugh with you a little. 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Links to all the stuff we talked about, guest plugs, our plugs, and a quick link to click Join and here are bonus stuff. Show notes or maximum fun. org slash Join. Okay. True grit. one to ten super loud commercials. Matt, this is your pick? mayaybe we'll let you finish this off. Emily, do you want to go first? U This is a Tippy ten. easy, easy choice. It's one of my favorite like female heroines in movies ever, especially as a little girl. It's one of the greatest characters in fiction. Oh, one hundred percent. like, you know,, Yes, but she this performance, like I could watch her, I could watch this movie over and over again. It's such a delight So yeah Yeah, very easy ten for me to. I think I get a little bit annoyed when like online film people are like, perfect movie. perfect movies. like what's that? What are you talking about? Listen Pfect movie? It is. I feel like I have a mean in general, N not about this movie, but just when people say that about like spepeed racer, you know Well, I think this Jordan, that's so crazy that you say perfect movie because that's how I feel about Ohh brrother, where art thou? Like there's I there' made a perfect movies. The best movie, it's just that it is perfect, like like a mathematical equation wrong with Perfect movie. Nothing wrong. U Matt, what do you think? I didnt give it a three. No I'm not kidding. I' kidd I was on my phone the whole time. It was just like true griit, more like a little better than silent Hill. or like true clits. I don't know. A true clit. True You need to workshop that slim. You know why? you're not. I'm keeping it U No, I give it a tippy ten of course. It is a great movie. The performances are beyond just being good They are all memorable. Everyone is firing on all cylinders. It is incredibly compelling story and it's a Coen Brothers movie, there There's not really not much more you could ask for in a movie. So yeah, Tpp be ten All right. anybody got any plugs? I'd say go ahead and keep an eye on my Etsy store. It's Flem Gems. We have a link for it in the show notes. But yeah, I'm launching it The next day after recording this, but I'm sure there's going be shit left over I made the most stuff I've ever made. This is about to be the biggest Flem Gems drop. It's In two years, I've never made this much stuff for a Fim jib strap. so get in there. Get in there, get yourself some jewelry and get yourself to the ice house. Yeah on Saturday, july eleventh for a night of comedy with myself and with my wife, Francesca Fiorentini. The show's called New World Disorder
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