Future Outlook and Life After Fighting

It's Shano Mally. He's from the Valley. I don't think he is. You'll f your d can't see. Yeah. Mies We ready to fight in the White House Wh today is a very important day I'm not sure if you're aware Oh, there's a smudge all over that. Why is an important day? Here's a smudge. Well, you can get Windx. We have our first fighter coming in I've been here Just for that I'm gonna beat the shit out of you during. Have you ever fought? Yes. I've never fought one. I've fought many times. Are you guys gonna fight him? No Mbe. Maybe you have. M! This guysy from I don't give a fuck University To be a fighting got be little crazy. No normal person can beat you up Not bad.. I would grab you' choke your. I how that hurt. I might be a better overall athlete. It was your dad, If I put on a paddy right now, you punched me, you destroyed. Yeah, that's amazing. We know nothing about you, but I mean that we know of you, which is so impressive. The fact that we all know who you are. Yeah, don't follow the sport necessarily. I'd love to hear that.ike whatever you're doing on a branding perspective, your wardrobe, I unbelieve. We appreate that. We were sitting We were talking about Tommy Lee too. You might not even know his band, but you know Tommy Lee because he's like the guy six nine, another person. Some people don't know the music at all You was a six nine tattoo. sixix nine tat and six nine on me. Oh my God.? Yeah. For Takashi? He did it. He did did. He did some of it. Yeah. Really Miami after one of my fights, I was hanging out with Steve D doew it. He wass like, Well, you me six nine? I was like, hell, yeah. Were you a fan of his before? You met I'd like six nine. Did you do your hair because of him? There was a lot of inspiration from S L crazy rainbow colors, like there was a lot of inspiration there Yeah I feel like that's what I feel like as far as a person who's fully outside the business of UFC, I feel like when you did that, you were on my feed every day from then on. If he wasn't a good fighter, it wouldn't have been happeny. The fight the the fight I did that was so it wass COVID. So I we were fighting at the Apex in Vegas where I went from the fight before I was in an arena likeike twenty thousand people to my next fight was there was like eight hundred people, not even that. There' many a hundred people in the Apex, the UFC. And it I knocked this dude out, hit him with a right hand with the colorful hair Yeah. And he was snoring. You can literallyar W No It was crazy. Yeah. And that was was that what just made you. It made it definitely help. Was it just an exciting knackout orr was this like a big fight as far as the It was my third UFC fight, so it wasn't like a big fight in the rankings. It wasn't for the title. It wasn't this it was this had a lot of hype Yeah from coming off the contender series from Snoopdog. Okay Do you guys hear this? No just because wellah, tell. I'll play it two seconds of. I know what you're going to do. You have the rights to it, right I know this. Oh and I don't wantan to play too much ' I'm those copyright there is, but I don. that was when I first walked out and then fast forward in the fight. I don't remember at what point, but Snoopps Shan little biticky myl life. craz. You didn't know that y? That was crazy. Yeah.eet. And this was this this was twenty seventeen. I mean, look at me, I look like a fucking You look like I'm twelve. When you saw that for the first time? Well you do. Where you landing Why did he say L little Dick here were you like, noten I had gotten that I was always like, Hey, that's good thing. I'. I was happy. You' hotter Much hotter version of him. You did Freaky Friday too and you guys switched bad. I thought about it. I thought about making an entire album of Freaky Friday, same beat twelve straight times, twelve different body switches, but I thought no one on earth would whatever Wh? You're so. Wait, do you ever get So. when you have the braids. I never even thought about it. Really? I didn't even, I mean Well now, you're gonna think about it. Well, no, I mean when I first started braiding my hair, I never I dis from I don't give a fuck university. Yeah,. Well, hey, I can't fight with hair eyes. I just I can't stand it. B was just So when I started braiding my hair, I was like kind of to get out of my eyes in, I felt like I transformed from like Swn to suuga. Yeah my hair is braided. Yeah. I feel like suuga. I feel like a superhero. I feel extra fast my head. Yeah, ye. feel faster So you go out there Yeah Ready to get punched? Well my main goal in a fight is not to. Yeah, I guess that makes that So inevitable. There's been time I've had a lot of fights where I've been able to Get out of there unscathed. Never get punched.'s the whole thing. I mean, the whole thing' like hit and not get hit. Some people most Most fighters kind of like, Oh, I like getting hit. I don't mind getting hit I hate getting hit., I don't want to get hit. Did fight a lot as a kid? No F football, basketball soccer baseballs from when I was like three or four years old all the way up to high school. Yeah Turn sixteen hated school had to get good grades to play like basketball, football, school sports hated school My buddys like, you want to check out this fighting gym and That sounds cool. I old? I was sixteen. super insecure. neverever fought. You were athletic. I was athletic. Super athletic. and I was super insecure kid going into high school and they go into my sophomore year, I think And I was like, wow, literally I was like One of the first things that customer I'm like Girl would think that's cool. Like that was like You were getting zero girls. I got a couple. You got a couple You guys. Some of my prime years were high school. were There were threerees and fours, but were. had you ever gotten in a fist fight before going into? No. We never even got. Okay.. So you didn't even think of fighting as fight Like I thought of fighting as a sport. I thought of it as like, you know, I'm trying to right win. And then he wasn't like I want to f too like that for. So you get there. and on your first time going there, was it like instantly they were like, whoa, that guy's got something. So when I was sixteen, seventeen years old, I was likeike kickboxing with these guys, I was le, I was just more athletic so I naturally kind of better than these guys. I was beating up guys that sucked in myind I got this confidence. I was like, holy shit, I'm like I'm good Yeah. So I built this confffin is sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old in Montana, fuck. fifteen, twenty times, kickboxing MMA, built this confidence up came to Arizona and got my ass kick literally for like I flew down for two weeks. Every practice I would cry. I was eighteen years old cry cry after practice. Be I was the man in Montana I've come to I came to Arizona gota askk every single practice. When you were crying Were you crying out of pain or were like physical pain? or were you like crying out of fear that you actually weren't able to It wasn't wasn't there was times where I'd had like concussions and it was physical pain. Yeah concussions are terrifying.ike If you've had a bad concussion and You would just want to be pitchback. you don't want to see any light like I had bad concussions and a lot of the crying was early on was Like I don't have a plan B. do not want to I don't like school I'm not going back to school I want to be an athlete And Thankfully, UFC MMA boxing like there's weight classes so I can, you know, I can't be in the NFL, can't be the MMA. Not skilled enough not big enough, that's just not realistic I was able to, you know, feel those emotions, cry, got, and then I was able to like back to the gym ofmorrow, back to the gym tomorrow, two days back to theym the morning, get home, take a nap jack off, go to sleep I know that routine. Yeah. Yeah. A warrior's spirit. O a warrior' routine. Like, if you got a fight coming up, do you jack off? He does have a fight coming up, notot the wife I do. No. I know. I love that you ask this though. I know that. Yeah. So I have two two answers for your jack offff question. Yeah. I haven't jacked off in a year and a half. What? I haven'tacked You're having wet dreams though, right? No, I have a wife. putut a pound in on her, but in camp now I tell her I said I said you get two nuts out of me a week right now. Yeah You can't limit it. You get a Wedesday night and a Saturday nut. Why? Beuse I spar Wednesday I need my chi, need my energy. Yeah Remember what Kevin Gates said? it's You really feel like if if you release, it impacts your game. I mean I think it's scientific. Well, if you can let your chQi build up and you know, Kevin Gates is fucking actually he's got a lot of jams. Oh yeah. Jams. for sureot him on it. Thats Yeah' incredible. Wh tell Kristen about Chi. I'm just I can't believe it's becausecause you know, as a girl, sometimes you get bullied into the whole like Blue balls can't focus thing. Not Dave doesn't do that I just like you hear that so often. Blue Balls is different. Blue Balls is like tempting a man up until he's about to come in then. This is just like not even engaging. to keep the energy, to keep the focus. So you only come twice a week. In camp, yeah. in camp. A lot of athletes are like this. I think it's not his thing. It's Yeah, I know. Yeah. I would say I bet if you asked a lot of peopleeople that probably don't think of it as I mean it is scientific. I you said. It like a real keep in your chi. Yeah. if I fucking jacked off the spn, I'd probably wantan to be like I'm gonna kind of chill L about. So you held off for us Well, and I haven't December twenty twenty four. I was going through a bunch of I have a wife, I got a couple kids and we're going through some issues And it was me just I'm fucking I'm to be a fighter, you got to be a crazy anyway, right? Yeah? I was having issues. December twenty four, I take these mushrooms. I have this Um I'm like, okay, I need to I got off social media. Haven't on social media? Good for you. In a year since deecember twenty twenty four. Gone social media, quit Jaying off. and it's really changed my life. That's really. The social media thing though, it' like Tell us. You just see for me it was it's like you just I get normal levels of horny throughout like life, but when I'm on social media, you see all the girls. and it's my biggest weakness and it's like, I can't help it. What does it make you think? Like you just think if these girls are all so hot that you just just want to surve. Bury bury my three inches deep in. Yeah. Th. But you find small thick? No, it's decent t I mean, ours are all probably the same size. lookook at her hair I se one I don't know about. Well, he says things like bury them, but he also said three inches, but yeah. I'm sure I have the smallest stick. Yeah. you have the best. I do. I have the best of all three. For her. and that' every was't matter. Everyone was. So So you were impacted sexually by Yeah by seeing all of you're just just social media in a whole and like I have two kids now and I just don't want to be like if you see someone just kind of like surfing, like if I see someone just surfing like I don't want to just be doing that. I rather you know, I still watch you, I don't have Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook. I have someone that runs all my stuff. Yeah. I watch YouTube and I still even almost feel guilty doing that. Yeah. I catch myself as well while. I'm like fuck, I don't trying to be And I'm far from it, but I'm trying to just be more present. L just try and I think social media is being off that. older kid and turns my little dude turns one this month. Two boys? Girl and a boy. Yeah. How' does it feel? It's dude, It's the best. You guys don't have any kid? No. Not yet No. Not yet. Not yet.et Sunday soon an army's Yeah,'s what I wantan to do. I want to do it I want an army but kids it's the cool. I've known I want I remember breaking up with the girl when I was in seventh grade she didn't want kids. I'm like Not gonna to work.ot gonna work.az. Literally. I've known I wanted kids for a long time. How is it? Tell us about's the best. Yeah. It's the best. little Mato You got his two teeth right here, two teeth popping in the top like and it's just it's so watching them baby breastfeed too. Is something about that? It's just so fucking cute and like he'll be over there and Danniy'll be like Mateteo and like show up and bomy,ll go fucking sprit like cow f flash on. Yeah. But ha having the right baby mama, having the right partner to raise kids is so like I'm so thankful I didn't knock up some random like girl. Oh my God. I would be like miserable. Are you I mean, she's got to be a rider dy because she stuck with you through your tri. put her through a lot. She's I put her through and you're like and you're like Now you're like repaint. You're doing like everything. I' doing my bit. Yeah. I'm doing my b. Does she get nervous when you fight? She actually doesn't really get nervous. She watches me train and I think there's this confidence she gets from watching me put in the work. Yeah to where like my mom and dad gets so nervous because they're never, ever in the gym watching me. Yeah. I've never seen what I do. Yeah. too where she watches, she watches me spar, she watches me train and she she so she like at the fight can like breathe Yeah. And she's watched me win, she's watched me lose and she's good through it all So like what's going on right now? Are you like dieting? Are you Yeah Yeah, ye Yeah. So right now I'm one hundred sixty. I weigh one hundred sixty. What do you have to weigh for the one hundred thirty five. Okay. So isane This is my favoriteight. have to sorry, you have to lose weight. I'm one hundred sixty right now and I have to weigh in at one hundred thirty five the day before the fight. I understand the strategy, but then how is it like twelve hours later? It thirty two hours or something like thatight So you fight. You have to get all your energy back. Yeahah. I'll go from one hundred thirty five, I'll in at one hundred thirty five, and then by the time I get in the octagon I'm about one hundred fifty two, one hundred fifty three. so you get they don't even reweigh them right before he has like thirty two hours. Yeah. Wait, this doesn't make it so So should work on this Explain. No, no, explain. So just tell her, I just want you to break down to her what the process is that week leading up. Okay. Okaykay. So I'll start at one hundred sixty where I'm at right now. I'm gonna to lose ten pounds from dying, which is horrible because I have to train extremely hard Yeah have burn more calories than I eat. Typically right now, like I'm going to be burning a lot of calories. You get hungry, but you have to eat a little bit less than you burn. So I'm going go from one hundred sixty to one fifty. And the next wee the next five science. And it's yeah, it's very I'm a nutritionist. I weigh my food. It's one, sixty one fifty. That's not horrible It's not like the worst it's It's not great because you get, you know a little hunger. Do you feel the calorie like deficit? Yes.. But from one hundred fifty. to one hundred thirty five fight week is where You know, you're waterloading, you're drinking two gallons of water for four or five days straight. and then you cut out salt on that Wednesday before the way ends. So basically I'm going to go from one hundred fifty to one hundred thirty five in like four days, roughly. That's a sport within itself. Oh Yes, it is But it's a sci. Let hurt. That's horrible. so you And the sun is in the bath. Your body becomes like a machine to like be made into. You feel like you're You literally feel like you're dying. You can feel your heart like beating out of your chest. Like when you're on when I'm actually on weight, it feels like death. Dude dread that part of it more than even the fight? Yes. It's the worst part of the whole thing. W worst f of the whole thing is I don't feel that Yeah. Yeah, remember when the dude was walking that the dude was walking and just like passed out What was that dude's name?? He was like That was recent, right? Yeah I fought on that card. He waited in right I was in the back feeling like I'm dying. He weaigh in and passed out right before I'm going to go on the scale. It's like psychological warfare.y whyy are you guys being why are you guys putting yourselves? Because if don't I'm not to fight a disadvantage. Is there a solution? Is there a solution?? That's whoever comes up with a solution. There's like a company in Japan, like one FC where they try to weigh you in weigh you randomly throughout camp. and like you have to fight around that and you can't gain like more than ten percent. They're trying I have the solution Everybody gets weighed right before the fight, like they they like they walk up to the arena You know, if they don't make weight, then and then they the fight is ruined and they've lost I know it's a risky proposition. It's risky but it's not bad. But then no one can change then you're never gonna to be that weak going into it because you have to get off that scale and go fight the guy. It'sot bad idea. So everyone just shows up exactly how they are. they can be professional. Maybe you make like a little bit of buffer. I don't know how much buffer there is between the wayight you have to hit, maybe it's a pound extra buffer. It's not bad idea. You know way in right before you get in the lock. That would be risky though Butercially, it would be, but that's not a bad idea. hundred people not making it Yeah. It's not it's not too bad. I think real solution is a real solution. tellell Dane talk to him. But I don't know. I think more it's like So much more logical and of the spirit of what I think sports is, which is like You at your highest le. highest If you're weighing the person to understand if it's a fair fight with the weight, it should be like you have to walk in and fight when you're getting that actual number. Maybe there's science behind it because maybe maybe there maybe if you did it right then, people would like do it last minute and then be weak when they thoughtought. That then do then you're z f you get crushed and You're about to fight at the White House, which has probably never happened before in the history of America U, tellell us about that fight Yeah, I don't know how it came about Trumps beenent multiple my fights like I've seen him he's got a lot of fights He's been at UFC fights for a long time, and I think he told Dana, let's do a fight at the White House I don't know if he said it jokingly or whatever Dana, I don't know if he has no Dana. He's intense. He's the man. He's just such a cool motherfucker. He's a great boss. He's he gets shit done. Likeuring COVID, when all the sports shut down, we were still fighting. That's when I thought that kid when I knocked him out I was like and no one was there Yeah. he was still letting athletes fight during COVID. but he's the man, but Trump said he want to fight the White House. Dan iss like done, We're making it happen And that was last year sometime and now its it's on Trump's birthday, june fourteenth. It's Freedom two hundred fifty and Oh yeah, two hundred and fifty years of America. Are you the main event of this fight or not No. Ilia Taporia versus Justin Gaagey.s main event, massive fight. Um But ye, very honored to be onon it. It's going to be legendary. There's only seven fights on the card, which is usually there's twelve. Its only seven. It's outside. Outside. Yeah. outside like that. I have fought outside when I was a young amateur, like eighteen, nineteen years old in Montana. That was the last time I fought. Does that affect anything? It definitely will if it rains, but outside other not at all the heat isn't gonna be hot summer? It will be humid. Yeah Are you preparing in saaunas? Are you guys like fighting in saunas? No, but I do sauna like five times a week. I love myle great.a, I have a question about the people you fight. Okay. Are you friends with any of them? question ever. So it'suly like in the history of fighting, can you ever be like friendly with them There's been friends that had to fight Um you know, there's and for me like there's guys I'm in the Bantamay division, theivision I'm in. I'm rank number three. like my buddy Mario' rank number seven. likeike there's guys in my division Like's it's possible. I, I feel like I'm in a position to where I'm like I wouldn't really ever have to. why do you avoid friendships is because you don't even wantanna have that in your head when you're fighting these guys? Not really, the chances of you two friends actually having to fight are very slim. Like I'm surprised Wh why aren't you all hanging out? BeCause you all know you all know of each other and there's just so many gyms across Amer accross the world, really. Like there's guys that live in Russia Thailand Yeah all over the world. Have you been number one was champ. I was champed, defendnder the belt. So you've been so you highest level. You've been number one. So is that like Yeah I'm number three right now. I was number one August, twenty twenty three I won the bell Weended it march twenty twenty four lost it in June of last year How heartbreaking is it to lose the bell I mean, losing the belts sucked, but just losing in general. I just fucking sucked. Losing how many times have you lost twice? You've only lost Yeah suppose I mean, it depends. twwice is the real answer, yes. Well's the controversy the other real answer. Yeah. So my fourth UFC fight I thought this I fought Ceto Vvera. I kicked this nerve on my knee right here. It's like this weird little nerve. and my foot went numb. And I literally kept rolling my ankle and I hate watching it back because I literally my foot, I didn't have God, I have a hole in my sock. I didn't have this motion because the nerve shut off. So every time I wouldd walk up, I roll my ankle bad and like I went to punch tellell my back he elbowed me in the head. They stopp the fight. Yeah And I get why you don't count that as a lot. and I always I kept saying, this happened in two thousand twenty twenty. And I kept saying I'm I'm better than that motherfucker. He got lucky, Bah blah blah. F first title defense. heins fight. He gets the title shot. I'm the champ at the time. and we have the rematch. The biggest gate in Miami history. The massive sold out arena, huge fight. He's from Ecuador and like Miami that side. it was a massive fight and I beat the fuck out of him for twenty five minutes. And it fll so that was the only time I actually had like I want to hurt someone. I didn't like him because of the first fight how it played out. he was acting like he was this manad. mean and you beat the shit out him. So I don't count that as a loss. Buted? Did you win that fight? twenty five minute fight? be the fuck out of him. Oh yeah. were you so happy? It felt so good. And was was electric? It was like a four year buildu of me saying that motherfucker got lucky. I'm better than him. and people like Why didn didt you have a rematch? he doesn't deserve He won. he doesn't deserve a rematch. L I didn't like how he was acting. He was acting like he beat me. Like he was the man. And un. And I beat them. Oh, dude, it was the craziest knee. knee. I saw yourat to what. When you do what? Chin. When you stood upies now, I heard both your knees crack. Is that gonna be an issue L Okay, let'm show you on What? hear that? But isn't there something even if through defending yourself? Did his face concaate? didid it all? It looks so cool. Oh Oh my go. This No. This is the guy that I kill. Why that's brutal Oh Its sumerime, time to outdoor furnish. and I know a company, Wayfair that will really assist us. talking like that? Because I'm ready to sell. I have to say, I do love Wayfair's options. Yeah. And I sent you a few options for our little, you know that little space outside of our pool. know. You know what I've weighed in. So how do you feel abouting it How do you feel about buying me? We're not buying you anything I don't w want to buy anything ever. Good preped for patio susason, for way less. Head to wayayfair d. com right now to shop all things home. That's wAYfa R dot com W Wayfair. Every style Everyes You guys, I've been using Canva, you know, Canva? Oh yeah. I've been taking pictures of places in our house, then I ask it to I prompt it and I say, can you redesign this space for me I have a lot to show the two of you. Oh, really? like whatre part of the home Well, our bedroom. And the upstairs studio. Oh. And the downstairs. I think we could do something different with like the shelves So so Canva is telling you options, I guess. It's helping us. Is telling you prices? Not yet. Canva makes design easy for anyone with built and AI that lets you remove, generate and animate content and just a click. Start designing today at Canva dot com Has anyone ever died in the In the UFC? I don't think so in fighting in general. Yeah. Yeah. ye. There's like points involved in different like you go in kind of having like a choreographed plan. You can have like a plan. Mike Tyson says everyone has a plan to like a punch in the face. Yeah. And that's kind of true. But there's game plans you want to stick to. like certain styles match up against different people and like I've had so many fights in the FFC and this guy I'm fighting has had so many fights in the FC. You could watch in a film that you get, you know, people have patterns. peopleeople have to like do this do certain things. So Theres there's game planans you can make according to how you know, people fight. Some people known as like great game planners and like Yeah, that's their thing where some people are like great tough guys they can't get knocked down Yeah. What's the ye? Is anyone known for their knee? Like that guy's got the boniest knee and if you get hip by and you're done. I'm sure you guys saw Jorgeim Masw only knocked up that ass Yeah. He was like the it was three second fight. Yeah.' like fight ran Yeah that's a legendary knee that Yeah now now legend. Yeah. Have you ever gotten like h in the face and you're like in the ring and you're just rocked your world and you're just like Oh my God Like and it's like youre only in the fight and you're like, how am I going to feel in your head when you just got rocked like that. You're still up and and the guysy's coming at you. What's what's going through your head? There is so that Peter Yon, the guy that's champ right now when I fought him in Abu Dhabi in the second round I came out boom cracked him hard. What rocked him Um, Hit with the right hand dropped him. Fast forward like forty five seconds. We're both standing there. and he hits me with a left hand and you literally see it's right on the chin. You see my head completely like turn all the way around. Yeah. And it was that was probably the hardest I've been hit But it didn't sense When you think back to this moment, is it like when you think back to this moment, it's a good question. Hang, cry. When you think back to this moment, is it like a flash the way like if I drank a little and I woke up the next day and I don't remember a certain things, like are you able to actually remember the moment specifically or not really Its pretty blurry. It's very blurry. Yeah. If me and Dave O good up right now. and like punch the air. Would you be able to tell like who a better fighter was or no, not really. No, probably not. No, 'use that doesn't sometimes it comes down to who's got more heart. Okay. Oh Okay, okay. you get one No, no, no, no, you get to do a little dance. Oh got ten seconds. Okaykay. I'm gonna do two So yourself ba, Are you rightady? handandle leftif handed U KC. Okay? M, not bad D decent. Wow. Oh shit. That's good. How use it footwork. Damn. That's not bad. Okay, that's do. semi slow until you the right hook was d. You you the fast twitch? I sell the fast twitch. No. I want Kristen. I want Kristen, too. You' faint. Okay, okay. But did it feel like, was it hard? I'm not o. I tired. So' I was just stressed So' yourselfth Pa too, I am Yeah I'm South Pa. That's U was too. Okay, s. O, wow. Okay You're more of Mike Tyson style. Oh. Okay, that was a battle. I'm more a ju jitsu or whatever. you know? M just. You'reial. You're more of a long fighter. He was more of like a Mike Tyson. Let's see. W Oh Damn She. I mean Okay. There was no left hand was only right hand. You just we know we're in a higher. We know we're like it's all one. Now I will tell you one thing.s tired. Yeah That got me tired. And three seconds was that About five. Okay It did't make me sweat. How likea I'm actually like like my arms are tired right now. It's the exhausting sport in the world. My arms tired. When I took boxing once, here's the thing I really did like is like you are it's like there's like a Coreory well, it's not the same. It's boxing. No, you're doing a lesson where you're like lean left. H I love it. It was like you doing boxingardio Yeah a workout boxre actually in a boxing gym. Yeah, a a lot of people do they don't fight or they don't, you know, want to fight, but they do workouts for most' so exhausted. Yeah' so tired to sit down. Ine thing is like you like so like right now just like looking at you, you look like justch No, you kind of just like a normal dude like you have like the biggest like your trainer like I'm like, whoa. Yeah that guy's hute. But like you have like a normal arm like So what so it doesn't the big guy, it doesn't there's a whole you know, there's different weight class. No, no, no w I'm aware but like but like you're not like the most like f. Yeahike do you have six fast? No. I'm just fast. Can you punch the air? I just gotta watchight now, like right now'm not like too fast, but ye, just slow And like just can you punch the air one time I mean, you were putting on a spot. Yeah, I yout punch me in the face. Sometimes I put pick a ball. Oh. If If If you If I stood up like right here and you like, what are you most known for? Your kick or your punch I would say most known for right hand knock people out. So like I know that about you. So a peripheral fan I kn. So like let's go right now. Like I pretty big hands too. like I'm pretty good Yeah I noticed it when you came in, their' big hands Oh my god, you're a freak. Yeah fz. No, why are they so big forre you? They're just for knock people out. Yeah, me. Yeah. now So my thing is my thing is again. right now. Right now, if you, if you like punched me in the face Like like full punch You're A I dead? No. Do I the thing the thing like if you knew I was gonna punch you probably wouldn't be as bad as if, you know, the pun I give back. If you don't I would die I don't know if I could kill someone with a punch. What do you mean man? man snor Franis Niganu Yeah I friend. Yeah. I think he would kill some if let me just don't punch me. I just want to see, no, no, I just wan to see like what it's like. Oh yeah. ' Oh my God, even like that, even little moment. it was like mom. It rocked me a little. but sometimes like it's like these shots Yeah yeah I feel I feel me do that you. It like you kind of like when you hit up home Yeah already, don't you No, You did that. That' a weird sm to get. send. So that' a bony head. I have a bony head I'mry weird we anything. If you did that to me, I think at fifteen percent, I might you die I'd have to like lay down. The weirdest ones are the liver shots. get them Garcia when I was at that fight Oh yeah. dude, I was at the fight when Ryan Garcia got that. Wait, so show me that a little shot. It shuts you down you think that I was like, look, I'm going give it all up and train as hard as I can for the next like two years at thirty six. I'm kind of athletic, sometimes. I mean, that was a bad display. I'm not really sure the technique. I'll say this, if you took Jiu Jitsu, straight Ju Jitsu, where Ju Jitsu is like kind of like on the ground where you could sate people and you could choke people. Yeah. You took Jiu Jitsu for two years, took it dead serious and anything I could be you could you would be able to beat them up. Wow. Do you think I could h in the The girls the girls the girls are getting good. Like you're below the guysy. like nowadays the girls are fucking. M it was a totally inappropriate question If there was a girl who was the best girl who was in a much heavier weight class than you, do you have a shot? Yes. Yeah, you always still win. It's just like the difference between Yeah, well it's just yeah. Soules girls too. Yeah. Th girls get fucking. The girls don't really knock each other out too much either. So it's almost more brutal. Yeah. because they just fuc and hit each other do you probably really quick T look fast. if I trained for like a year and I like went under your guysys tutelage Do you think there's a world where like' like I'm like fucking a dude up in the street? one hundred percent. Re It doesn't take If you it depends on your level of commitment. If you're going to the gym twice a day for a year twice a day Thatice itice Tice a day. I mean that's what it takes like to It doesn't mean like I mean like I'm going like. Three times a week. If you did three times a week for a year you could get good. Yeah. one hundred percent day, fucking out of your mouth. That, That was crazy. Twice a day. Tice a day'd be I'd be dead that all that training can't get him courage Yeah there's something that courage. So do you good I do not have good courage. You've been fighting but you have good life courage that I think could transformer. zero percent fight courage. N been in a fight, never could imagine it. I've never been in a fight outside the ring. No. Never. No. the same way I couldn't grab a mic and I hate, I wish I could sing. I wish I could perform. I wish I could rap. I wish I guess I have courage there. I could not even stand in front of a crowd with themife I forgot about But you're not nervous at all when you go you butt naked, almost an octagon. I do hate that. I always think when I watch these fighters fight, because I used to have such bad body acne until I was like thirty two years old. And I always thought, oh my God, I would be so exposed. like. I used to do concerts and I would have to wear I war baseball jerts because I could show a little bit of skin without having loo in my back And sometimes a crowd would chant, takeake it off. takeake it do some d, do some some ye. Yeah people do. Do any of you guys wear body makeup I don't think so. Okay. Baby. When you're in there, you don't give off. You don't get like spray t.wat it all. You h in there nuts. You wear a cup, I have been hitting the nuts and it's getting hitt in nuts It's horrible. I'm sure you even even with a cup eg Like' eg. It it can't hit in the nuts You can't eye gouge, you can't wear your You know, can't hook. Yeah. no thumbs in the butt No th I don't know if that a thum in the butt is a rule frd. I don't know it. It's probably frroud upon. No licking no biting. No licking No no biting No spitting. Like here's what I would do. Okay. hereere's my thing. I'm coming in. He's gonna run around like I'm coming in like and and I'm stinking like shit. Okay. Like asked this before. Do Is that a benefit? Is there a benefit to stink like shit? I wonder if you' if they would w want to beat the fuck out any more. Yeah Really? Yeah.ike by rining they't be by some of that stink, though. Yeah. they're not like, they're so in the zone. You probably't even smell really D is it to your advantage like if you're like really a sweaty guy in the play just like fly off more so in the wrestling grappling Yeah Yeah, but striking not as much. you sweaty I don't I sweat, I would say average amount. You ever had a headache before entering it Oh, I've I've been fuck. a lot of fights, I've had injuries. Really and you to take get shot or something that you're like my stach feels not like as good as I was. I did reflex a little bit. There's during a multiple times like got kn up. And again, it's the like cutting all that weight' so ays on your body on the rehydration and it's like it fucks your body up. So there's been times where you're say like, oh Godd, I don't feel great. But you get a surge of adrenaline, like when you like step out? I feel like adrenaline in the octagon a little bit, but not too much. L I'm pretty calm. L watch my fights, might watch my walkouts, I'm very kind of have this ear of demeor like yeah, I'm pretty After the fight, you just won What are you doing after the fight? I love a shower. After I win. Oh, I just sm. So it's the It's the sh A fight after win the lose lost showers or not, they're just like sit on the ground. just sit in there Yeah they suck. But after What are you doing? Oh I talk to myself we did it. looking in the mirror. Are you was the b Are you like, arere you like even washing yourself or no, you're just showering I'm because you go a little bit so because watchself to go to the club after. you dont So you Are you just like I'm the I'm on Oh yeah. you feel dude after a win You you make a fuck ton of money. You just w a fight that you've been training for for eight weeks. Yeah. And it's all over the sense of relief. Yeah. It probably feels like it after like a concert or something. likeike just way more relf. W more. It's like everything. So do you have sex that night or no? Oh, hopefully with Re lots of sex. Really? you're not too tired? No, after sex? Yeah, after he's been on a regimen. You guys wan to s on the couch? Yeah Floyd's of a boxer right? Yeah a boxer. Yeah. He's never lost. He's never lost. never lost. Would you ever fight Floyd Mayweather? Oh, one hundred percent I would I mean, boxer fight. Well, there's boxing even though he's like fucking he's still so good. He's still. is he is he your same way class So he's a little more He's probably the same. He's pretty short, but we're probably like I'm super skinny today Yeah. Speaking of sports and random sports, even though it's not that random, every four years, you know, we got big soccer matches. I think it's okay to call them matches. what I like to do is I like to go on Fandle Predicts app and just predict the outcome Obviously I'm from America, I'm American made and USA has Paraguay coming up. So I don't know if I'm just being naive or or if I'm that big of a patriot but I think we're gonna to win. That's my prediction. So I'm going to go on Fandle app. I'm gonna to make this fandl prediction I stand to win These are real stakes And this is real life Im going to win. And so is America But you can't you can't you couldn't be boxers, could you At a certain level, I could I came from kickboxing boxing. My background's more of a box Yeah, But like you would destroy Floy Mayweather in f And like youFC like like W in a couple minutes Yeah. Yeah, he couldn't But in but in boxing, like he'd still probably take you be interesting, he's getting older. Yeah. You know what I mean? You ever get scared? Like, are you ever at home and you hear like a sound and you think, oh no. Yes, because I have kids. Okay, But you know, you could just beat anybody up. Not if they have a gun. Yeah guns so could kick the gun out before they could even Yeah. got guns? Oh I got multiple guns. Yeah. I got I got yeah. P sorry I justs a scared. so walk on the street and been like, that man is huge. I'm scared of him Not really. I've never had issues outside like that. Have everone to a club or something? I've never had issues. Everyone's pretty nice for the most part. Yeah No one's gonna to wantan to press him. I feel like drunk people would come up to you all the time and be like, can I I've had it like once or twice like am I just avoid it. I don't wantation. surprise doesn't more with you because you're so well known, guysu get drunk Yeah and you're just not physically that big. So there's probably a lot of be lot of. I'm surprised it doesn't happen as much either. I'd like to think when I get if I do, I don't drink that often,, very rarely, but if I do I feel I'm just like, I want to hug you. Let's go. Like you can't it's like you if a guy, like no normal person can beat you up A normal person No, it's not trained. Yeah.. L like if there's a do even like an NBA player that's not trained. like if a guy's like six six and like he's like an NBA player like he can't beat you up. It'd be interesting. I mean, they would get tired. I talk to R interesteresting. I asked Ryan because we were with Ryan, he was talking about Jimmy Butler and he's like, yeah, he's like, I beat this shit. He's like He said, there's a certain point when weight becomes an issue. Yeah. He said like Shq would be hard. but he's like, honestly he said it wouldn't be that hard. He's like because as long as you can he said, he said what he would do is he was like, I would just defend myself because any guy, unless you're a trained fighter, you're getting tired very quick Yeah Well, Ryan, Ryan can't fight We can b Yeah, that's no sense. Yeah a question. So you see guys like Whiz Khalifa. Yeah. okay, and he does, what's he doing? Yeah, he's training. It looks like he's doing I don' tie kickking stuff. training. So like a guy like that, if you like spar with him like and you're going like like twenty five percent how people going as far, willill he be able to like do it with you without getting like incredibly hurt If I didn't want to hur him, I would Yeah Yeah like if he like could you go at twenty five percent and he's and It's like you wanted to hurt him at twenty five percent. He's basically saying it'sid basically We twenty five percent of you No wondering like pickleball is a sport. where If someone walks on They can play almost with anyone immediately. Like I'm saying if somebody starts training and they've been training for a little while and they get in, can they like do a spar thing? And not trying to I'm not saying they're going to beat you, but are they like will they be capable enough to like do something that's like fun for everyone? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean that's all I want. I'm not a violent person in any way. I never have any like desire to be violent, but I do have this Fantasy of being in a situation in life where somebody is in the wrong and we're like in a street when I am fishing it. I just slap the man across the face as hard as I can and people see it and everyone is so happy that I slapped him. It's so justified. and I walk away and he doesn't do anything And that's it's a hero moment. Yeah, that's a slap. slap was so not convincing. I think Yeah slapping someone's not as I feel like illegal Like if I want to punt someone like they'd probably fall, but if I slap someone it's like you're a bitch But on the not it' illeg. Remember I asked him wasg like, if I do it's illegal. But like boxers have to have their you know, registered for such a amount. How assume thats there's some truth to it that like if you're a professional fighter that you're considered a weapon or something, Basically, if you got in a fight in a street fight And he didn't ask for it, but he got in the fight and he knocked the guy out. Boom. Even though it was self defense and the guy actually died. Oh, he might have worse latigious situations. You're held like you're not supposed to Because his hands or maybe a dead weapon Yeah. I don't know I remember hearing that That's funny. I remember hearing that like when I was like, sixteen, seventeen years old when I first started training they Oh, you can't get in street fights becausecause you're consered weapon. I'm like I'm hearing that and there's some truth to it. becauseuse you just it's hard to draw the line of like, what's going win this fight for snock this guy out for first accidentally killed this. The thing about being so high level though is like if I got in a street fight, I would I wouldn't punch somebody. I might hit him in the body, might hit him with a liver shot where they just crumble or I'd realistically take someone down and put them in a submission kind of to where they defend, take their back choke them. say What's the best thing? was your daddy? Yeah It was your daddy. Yeah. And they they say. What's the best thing we could do if we got into a fight? L what's our what hit him in the ball? Submission, sububmission. Balls. I mean, I just If you I would just need to learn Jiu Jitsu. Eone I E J ju Eone Ju Jits Yeah Ju Jitssu. Ju Jitsu iss the best like my daughter' in j J jitsu, She's five.ell Ju Jitsu's Jizelle who's that? Jizelle? Com Brady's that's my m her. I love that it. If I walked behind you and you had no idea Oh wow. And I push you I' goart No, don't do anything. I do instantly. I would go like' co my neck and grab your ary. So you can'toke. You know how they're like rac They're like this often.ike when you go in a race and like a fast burner might give a guy a head start and still win the race. you gave me the head startart of choking me as hard as I can, would you have no doubt that you'd still end up in top in like five seion That's cute. It's like a nice It looks like t. I just saw him in that moment I just saw you switch and your eyes you were going like this. you were like and you were looking around. You were like assessing the situation. I mean, instantly if someone were like first thing you're doing is grabbing the hand on the neck because you need this arm to choke me. That was the first thing I would do is grab grab that hand. S I do that? What should she do? If a man comes up and we werere to try something, what's the first thing she should elbow to the nuts, pry Yeah. Like if impossible. Well, if he comes up like behind you, like kind of grab you I would I mean, I would whatever where he's at, hit him in the nuts and that would be like probablyably the number one thing, but I had to hit really hard. I mean, that's not a good situation. But if you had a bluebet, if you did ji jitsu for two years I would be very confident that you would be able to submit like an average size. have a box cutter. Wow. B box cutter would be nice. L cutter. What you just do It's submission. So what's it look like? What if we were it we were just like kind of slap hands. And then we like we'd go live, so basically I would try to take you down or you would try to take me down. Oh, is this the one where you go like this? or no, that's where wreling. It's wrestling but with submissions. So if I grabbed your head this for instance, I would grab you and I'd choke your do that. When you say submission, you just mean someone's gotta submit.'s tap out. Yes. they gotamit Iose person doesn't want to give up the then youoke out unconscious go the go the go. You know instantly when he did that, I feel a soreness right here. No every choes. And so Ju Jitsu' the best form of like self defense. Yes, one hundred percent. Have you been just chomping at the bit to get that belt back? So I lost the belt and then I fought for it again. I fought the same guy had a rematch. He beat me again. D that What's this man's name? Marab And it is a nice gu. He's from Georgia, fucking nos is devol really Okay on Georgian guy I fought him U The first fight was a close fight. I It was a very close fight. I almost fin almost hit him in the body in the fifth round In the title fight you fight for twenty five minutes. there's five five minute rounds At the end of the fifth round I was hitting in the bodyhot. He's run around the kage. almost got him out almost had him. Lost a decision how to rematch with so that fight I went into the fight with a torn labrm in my hip. I literally had surgery scheduled for the week after the fight. because I thoughtought by had a torn labor in my hip gut surgery. recovered for surgery Fought him again The timing was I was so antsy and I wanted to get back so bad And it was just like I got I rushed myself Yeah and he defended the belt. He fought another really, really tough guy. So he's active. he's training. he's winning fights. I booked the second fight with him and he actually choked me. Tapped out. Yeah. Yeahah And that sucked. Do you think you can beat him? Yes. I know But are you just like, you know, restless until you're back on top? Are you like does that? Mindset just take over your like for me, I'm just like, until I prove myself and all these things, like I can't rest. Are you Do you feel like you've already proved yourself one time, you were at the top? And now everything else is kind of icing. Yeah That's a great question, and it is a little bit of both. Like I wanted like I just fought in January. I was coming off the two losses in a row And I'd never come off to losses of a row. there was this like desire like I have to fucking get a win. L I was I was associating too much with like being a fighter, but I also I feel like understand that Happiness is a skill and it's like what I let my brain think of and Like if I'm constantly just like dwelling on that I definitely feel anxious and'm like Or if I'm like, okay Be grateful for what I already have, be grateful for where I have fuck just built a crazy house I have these kids, I have a'm married. L life's good. If I can be in that mindset more, I'm definitely more at peace. Yeah. But it's like it switches throughout days, weeks. It's like I need to get that win back. And so it's gota bo are you projecting like you know, because you're a professal athlete, there's a shelf life of age from Absolutely. Are you always thinking about what am I gonna to do? And I'm forty in that absolutely about just obviously you've bu build a brand. Like when do you stop? Like when do most people stop? Everyone's different. I'm thirty one right now. I could literally fight. likeike there's Daniel Corm, won the Heavyweight belelt when he was thirty nine or forty. like That's young or no, not Thatsort very old for fight. Yeah. fighting is a young mans sport. twenty five, twenty six, like these killers are coming up and they're getting better younger Yeah. Yeah. So I'm thirty one right now. And it's so hard to say like, whereere it is, I could have one more fight. I could have two more fights. I could have ten more fights. Yeah. Like I really don't know. depends on how my body feels. you're not thinking about it.ike're you're going in like you'reaking each fight as each fight at a time, But there is thoughts. It's like, okay, like how this training brutal, training camps brutal, cutting weight is horrible. Yeah I don't have to fight anymore. I do it because I love it. And I was watching this Conor McGregor documentary last night. I was actually watching a little bit of this morning inspiration, motivation, like Connor always is like I feel like I'm so lucky because I've been in the sport. I watched Connor from when he got into the UFC to where he's at now watched his rise and I get this like, and I was watching him just at the Weans for when he fought Jose Aldo sold out Arena in Vegas and he's like I still crave that. I still worry that. I still of course..'s course so it's still there. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. everyone get, you know, that feeling it never goes away. I hope it does. Event you know. Youll probably get to a place where you're like, you know, it's like I still have it in me, but it might not be like my balance I know when my speed because my speed is really what my number one attribute If my speed kind of starts coming down, like that's when I need to exit the game. But we have such a cool gym. Tim owns the gym. It's twenty minutes from our house. We have a bunch of up and coming fighters. like I still feel in Montan. in Arizona Arizona. Yeahah, I still feel like I have a lot to give back to the MMA community in that sense and help build up these young fighters Yeah. And I'll be around the sport, but I'm also obsessed with pickleball right now. I'm like, I'm You're good. Are you good? I'm decent for not playing very long. Yeah Yeah yeah. I'm building a pickleball court at my house now I got a guy coming out Monday to playay the pad and It's so cool play it. L think I think like us together could beat you and your friend think think. I think there's a reasonable chance that there's a very good chance both of us together would be you and your you think you're better than whyy do you think you're better than Pickball Yeah Pickall. Yeah. why do you think You guys I don't answer that. he's so athletic. he's so I'm sorry know good highight. No, you guys are not. Yeah're decent P pickleball. Yeah Yeah Yeah. whereere think with me Hold First off, you're talking to a two year tennis camp Okay, that changes suburban Philelphia. Okay, that changed a little bit. My brother was aivion one tennis player. I grew up in a tennis familyather I mean, that's help. I'm my dad's a cop. I'm a hundred percent sure like me and Dave together on a team best would be most normal. We pickle ball here because I don't think He's not a normal person. I know. I'm not as great at pickball. He's let me put it into perspective I. My friend, my friend was one hundred fifty if best tennis player in the world, okay? He was a professional tennis player. The best in the those are the best people in the world. Yeah. He's one hundred and fifty in the world. He came and he played pickleball with us and he like sucked. And it's like and then he suck And then he wast was And then he became he became good and he's like a decent player. No could be as good as he was. Yeahah, if you wanted to, he could be p Unbelievable. Yeah I like a one with I'm a thick boy. A thick paddle. you know like the brand, do you have like a specific brand you Oh, no, My friend has a company. so God, if you would to set a name, I would have been like o Oh, sh Yeah they know. Yeah I don't know the bras. You're right.t I don't really know it.. I think I think I do think though that like I think we'd have good. I think I think you're thinking you're a lot better than I'm. I just have had so many people come to we own the pickleball courts. We have four courts right next to our gym. It's called the pickle Dojoe. It's fucking dope. Yeah. And we've had so many people come in they're, No, I'm good and then we play with them. I'm like bro, you just you can barely hit over the net. Like I don't know why people think That's what I'm assuming other sport. It' not yet. It is not guys you guys like we're not that. I know we're not do But we like do yes, we play sport. Like I work out four times a week and I play basketb. I might be a better overall athlete than you. I believe itall. Like you're better, obv No, you're pretty good basketall, are? I a ball. keepep. Do you still hot I can ball. I don't me I just want to see your hand a little. let me get back. Where's the basketall? I'm a better athlete than like say I'm a better athle'm athlete. Jack, where's? No, it's different. You know, we're basketball, Jack.. I'm in my room. He's good at tennis. I have basketball. It's in my room. I have unbelievable hand eye coordination. Like I guarantee you you're better at basketball than me probably, but I can ball But I bet you're not a better shooter than me You know what I mean? Like I know that you're more athletic in every like combinine d. a three point shot Yeah. I have a decent shot but I'm not more of like a playak. I can like someort of a playmaker. See, I mean, it's like, mean that was that was clammed on You know what time it is. It really comes around every four years and it keeps on coming. I know what you're talking about. Soccer or Yep, but we're in America and we're on Tam UFA and we got a lot of countries to work., I'm not sure if that's who I would prodreduce. Really?? Well, I don't know. I'm going for Spain. I got a cousin from Spain, so that's my place. What about France And I love France. Brazil. And I love Brazil. This is what's wrong with this country. You can predict the outcome of the pro soccer championship games all the way to the end of the tournament with Fan Douual Predicts. Sign up and grab your tournament. doour bonus on Fan Douual Predicts and ride this playoff journey with us. Sorry, I was just a little excited I like that No CD. It's so interesting that you guys are best friends and you both have OCD. like that must be nice. It's nice that I have him and we have each other, but it's a thing that is probably annoying to deal with if we're being honest. Sometimes we call each other out on it. Like when we're talking on Facetime, if one of us hangs up prematurely, we have to call the other one back. and sometimes we enable each other But I will tell you, It's cool that this exists. CD because I remember like when I was younger, like going to my friends or my family about it and they think it's like a joke or something. They don't really understand the nuances like and noCD is amazing. and it's one hundred percent virtual. so you can do it anywhere you are in the world. There's no excuse. Learn more about starting OCD therapy with no CCD. goo to noCD dot com slash friends and book a free call with their team. That's noCD dot com slash friends Yeah I know, we know you I can do that. I can. I can. Yeah, he actually can. S that can cocks out here Yeah Maybe not right now. Was that a men's ball though? Yeah. No, no, Ed Yeah, he can. do it. How's that one? Why? Okaykay? You go cocksack I don't know I. I don't know I sa it. harder. M's harder. Sn's a little moist today. You huge hands Okay, let me just see him drib I, this is good enough. It's pretty good. I just want to watch him dribble. This is good enough..ble outside. Give me a balk, Jack. Do you want me to move the rg I gotta watch dri. Okay. I just gotta s. Okay,. Okay get it get out of You could not get the ball for me. No You could the ball. I can just I know you so the way you're driveling is stuff but I just gotta say one thing. Yeah. I know you're a guy I don't wantan to play You're the guy who don't wantanna play because you don't know how to play that well and you're too strong Let me tell you something, lookook, first thing you're doing that I'm saying first, you're lifting your leg up. I don't need to. but you do. Oh, I cant if I want. But look at nobody just the way that you're one of those like No it's just one of those hands when you're moving, there's just a certain like, there's a certain thing people when you when you ball, there's just like a c it's a certain way you just dribble it And so you could beat me one on one. No, I'm not saying I you're so strong. No don't I wouldn't need to use strength to win I'd have to see your real. I'll be such a good defender. Defender offense. Yeah see your real. No,''s honest I'll be honest with you. do at this point, especially in my life, the player that I am today. You have a better impact on the game than me for sure all around defensively just shooting. moreore than just shooting. offensively, I'm I contribute better I contribute to a team more Holistically, offensively and probably clubhouse as well. I would probably contribute a little more. I'm a great leader. I hit all the big shots you need be a coach. You're a c you're you're a better you're a better shooting guard than point guard. Yeah. much better shoot I a shooting guard. You'reray he's a very good. my favorite tell know you're probably actually good at shooting. My favorite is when we're on the same team and I get to be the point guard and he gets to be the shooting guard. It's one. He's one he's the he's your he's your favorite ooting guard to have When you're playing a game, he's your favorite shooting guard to have because he can pass, but he can also create a shot as well. Let me ask you a question. You know he played games up to eleven Threes are worth two. Have you ever scored all eleven points in the game? the five on five game I've done that like four times did it. Yeah. I mean, I can't say that hal. And I'm not that kind of player, but like it's very common in those games up to eleven that I'll have eight. I'll have six. I'll never have like you're that guy. Just one. I just I'm a really great scorer. I'm so annoying on defense. You just No, you just hate me. I'm there. L I might do the thing when it's time to like check the ball get off my man and I'm just going at the other guy. I'm very annoying. You're Okay rulesen the door I'll check out the no or my. there arere there rules where like Like I remember one time a basketball player in the NBA, Jimior Nelson came to my overnight camp and he couldn't really even play because in his contract, he wasn't like are there rules that prevent you from playing pick upp basketball or anything like that? We're independent contractors technically, so we can really do whatever the fuck we want. other than fight for different promotions. We could wrestle, we can do ju jitsu, we cannot box for other promotions, but we can we could ball, we can Skydive. There's nothing saying we can't. Is there Is there a fighters' union? No But do you feel like there desperately needs to be? I don't really know what that means. means that I think and I don't even know either but like you're saying we're independent contractors. Y guns for hire right now, but all these other professional sports have unions that really protect Because it's making so much money and not to put Dana on the spot. I hear things being talked about a little bit here and there and how it's it's really behind' about Yeahah. So I'm lucky. I'm in the one percent of people that are actually making money. So and I feel like I earned it. I got to where I'm at I fought for the twelve and twelve, the twenty and twenty. I fought for those like to get to where I'm at But it's like, it's hard. I get UFC's perspective sometimes too. It's like, These guys that are their first fight in the USC, they have Like no one knows who they are Yeah There's no one that's tuning into the fight to watch them fight specifically and they want to make one hundred fifty thousand dollars to fight what it's like But So I get business inside of USC. I also get the fighter side because I've been through it and it's it's a brutal sport. T in a way and he invent UF he bought the UFC when it was going down. Why was it going down Because it was just so frowned upon. it was illegal in most states. Most people were like, you're gonna watch two guys fight in a cage. L it wasn't like ' popular thing. And then how do you change it? like aet money at it Threw a lot of money at it and then built this reality TV show around it called the Ultimate Fighter. Yeah marketing the game didn't change, right? Like it' it just people changed their perception of the game. one hundred percent. Danel White, I think is one of theet biggest marketing geniuses of all time. Yes. I have no idea what the answer to this is. Was Joe Rogan a part of any of the marketing genius of the up start of UFC. he was a so Joe supporter first started a commentator. Yeah J Rogan when he first started getting the first started work for the USC, did it for free early thousands late nineteen ninety nine, whatever it was. And he was like interviewing fighters backstage and he did it for freaks, he was love with the sport. Yeah. And then he started commentating and I don't think he I think people really enjoyed his commentary on it because he was kind of explaining what was happening And so I think he had an impact in that sense. I don't know about marketing through the podider Joe Rogan, he did like kickboxing andakw with him? No, he's old. He's like sixty. Yeah He like just for fun. He did Taikwondo when he was younger and And then I think he has a black boat and Juitsu, like just he knows. But like just as like, does he like love you I've done his podcast three times. I think I mean,. Does he love you though? I don't you know what's funny about that is I had kind of made this thing after my fights It like fucking love you, Joe Rogan. Like there's like six fights in a row where I did that. when I broke my foot in my second fight. I was laying on the ground A the fight, and he came over to me and interviewed me while I was laying on the ground with broken and I was like, I fucking love you, Joeogan. I kind of started this thing. So' why you ask if he loves me, I don't know. I love.. I think he did say I love you too man one time. You're worried that you might have said it too much so that he might be He's like, All right, he's getting Okay, whichich is fine When you're training for a fight, do you like like you know so who's the guy? Who's the guy you're about to fight? What's his name again? What's the Aaman's a Hobby. He's from Cana. I can't say' gonna to be the shit out of. Are you thinking? you're thinking about his face? Like how many you're thinking about his face every day, right? Like you're picturing him, when you're training, you're like picturing him Like you really in a sense, there's there's there's a little bit not Not fully. You're not waking up thinking about this guy like just subtly in the back of your mind, that man that's also on the other side of the world training for the same event where he's supposed to meet up with you and beat the fuck out of you. To an extent, Yeahah. L you find motivation, you find some inspiration from thinking of like, okay, his m fuck is training Just. Focusing on yourself and doing what you need to do each session is I get more out of that than thinking about what he's doing or thinking about him at all But I've been pretty I don't know if it's I've had a lot of a lot of fights, but there's even still people at the highest level themselves out and they don't even want to know about their fight for six weeks. Really Do you want to want to the notice. Do you think you need like, do you need social media so you can like antagonize the guys? Like donon't they antagonize there's there's so many people, you know, who's actually done really good at that is Jake Paul Yeah in the b stuff. He's like's been very good at like making fun of people in a sense and like building these fights, hyping these fights up But you're not that type of guy. I did a little bit And earlier on in my career But lately it's like, it's so weird I've been on social media for a year and a half almost now and it's like I don't think about and I actually don't like this about myself. I used to think about creating content more. and I really do enjoy creating content. We still create it. But I'm not thinking about it nearly as much because I'm never on it. I don't see any. Yeah. But And I feel like I used to looking back at my old social media when I was coming up, I was motivated by money and like fame when I didn't have it. And I was able to create this content that I feel like built my brand And now that I'm not on social, I feel like I'm not creating that same content and I kind of feel guilty in a sense, but I'm like not being off social is such a different level of peace of mind.. I don't have The anxiety you get just like surfing, It's like you never feel fucking good when you're on your phone. You don't feel good. comparison is the joy.'s such a true ph. I gets said all the time, but it's such a good one that it's like I don't feel dumb repeating. so' ye it really is. you know what I have? I'm gonna go get this thing that I have. This feeling that I agree with all of you go. I have it's my your whistle. Yeah, I have an appreciation whistle that But you still spend a lot of time on something. I know but I keep forget to we where the whistle If I whistle If I put on padding And I put on like three layers of padding headear No gard. If I put on like padding right now and you punched me. likeike twenty percent would it destroy me? No, and again, I never I've never been someone who thinks it hits hard., I hit fast L think I think our definition of hard is like just that little thing you did to the back of my head, I'm still thinking about. I'm I can still feel it. I did hit hard, but I hit I'm more of like a speed guy. Inck, he doesn't hit real hard. I don't hit the. 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What do you mean? I was against guys like one of the best fighters? You should let me kick you No, no, No, no, You can'tick Kristen. No, It to kick. Do you want to get kicked? I'm dripping., actually can't kick. I'm so violent here. No, you just got. Okay. Did it look c? it didid it look cool? Yeah? I mean, you almost broke through the glass. That was cool I mean, they have it all on the real cameras, you know, but I have it here And I kind of didn't really tell you when it was coming, which was kind of nice And I don't really get too much hip into it I can't believe you're in pain? Always. Yeah. I. I'm in pain and I just you're not beaten. Yeah, but when you work out all the time, you're just in pain just in the workout even F from being so. I do pilates and walk and I'm not in pain. Yeah, girls typically I feel like you're just We have like my hips. Yeah. My hips I always have to open so much. It cracking for me. Like my knees crack when I stand. It's con' bad though. W.hould we do friends on three Would you good? I just punch him in the face real c. I'm not a violent person by any means either. I don't like f. I don't. I just want to just give you one small shot. Don't do it hard, Dave. I won't. Last time I h a punch was like ten years ago I punched my friend's butt and I fractured my wrist. Okay. you good good? Yeah. No. We really him. We really appreciate you coming today. A appreciate you. on three. O T Three Was that a good one? You know what? One time, Bradley Martin, you know, Bradley Martin? We're a big fucking giant jack guy. He we were at the club while I was kind of turning L body shot. and I flexing him as hard as he could.. And I was like, o, not shot. And I walked away. I was bro, w he's a big two hundred sixty five. hard could His was not good I bad But you can't be. He's got a big fight coming up. Yeah I know I want to be easy. Thank you so foring. you.. I'm moing for you.. fight. I fight want to come with pickleball. Do h any. 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