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From Ally's 10-Second Bombshell Dominates the Perfect Match Finale | Season 4 Finale Recap & ReviewMay 30, 2026

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This is Pacecase This is Bachelor Clues and it's twelve twenty PM on Thursday and there's still no cast list for Lomar on lastide these motherf have dropped a video. however, we're going to be watching that, of course, a tantalizer, a teaser. and they they demand from us in the video, in the caption of it. It says, say please Giveme it. What did I say shit I said Please, I'm dying is what I responded to that one. Yeah. feel completely the opposite of your face at the bey of this. Sour push. Sour pus clues E I am Ride and high this week. we had summer house, part one reunion literally perfect episode of TV. W I watch that on the Palapa Yeah. And This teaser made me so excited clues. I was like, Yes. teing the literal definition of a teaser Ain'tas. Ain't teas and me and I working on clues. I'm unnteased. T's ped. Well It feeles like they're especially teasing us because you and I have been, we literally put this podcast off some hours in order to hopefully get the cast board. This is my problem with it. And this is where reality TV is still a little bit amateur hour when you compare it to professional traditional sports, baseball, football, basketball hockey, etcetera Fall sports Well, hockey doesn't have a ball And' a. ball Not a ball N ever It's not a psychological sport the ones that I'm interested in There's huge psychological components in what you call the ball sports. anyyways, I'm simply saying All of those sports, obviously haveve been around a lot longer than what we would consider to be real some of them have, I guess Like baseball has been around longer than reality television Um, But you're twenty eight nine Oh But what I'm saying is those sports have their shit together in a way that is like, here's the date of the draft. It will be televised on these channels. Here is the date of preseason starting, post all the shit You know when it's all happening so you can cover it properly. What we are doing here now on this podcast is a weird snapshot, almost a time capsule of a strange between moment of when they dropp this black and white video that we're gonna be watching and before the cast came out. and it may come out while we're recording this. We have no fucking idea. So I hope it does all up in the air and to tease it like this Again, I think is just amateur hour. Let us know when the cast is coming out so we can cover it for you and give you free promotion for your show counterpoint. I it made me feel viscerally amped. And I think that this means the cast is going to come out Any second An second. I agree. But I don't think they would wait too long after that And I agree with you. this little trailer is fucking phenomenal in every possible way. I'm amped as well. I'm not saying it didn't work on me. I'm just saying like Its reality TV needs to get its shit together in terms of the promotion of these products. They all exist in their own little worlds and it's like, here's the love violent world. Now you got to follow our Instagram and be like refreshing it every ten seconds to see if the cast comes out and knows. And that's fine. whatever. Imagine if there were two weeks leading into this a promotion like the cast is coming out. It's going to drop at this time on this day. People would be in an even bigger frenzy and it would be covered properly People would probably do live shows for it. Exactly. like the countdown for it, stream it. all of that. This is just like, again, amateur hour And it's only less than a week until the premiere of the show They had this problem last season with a character named Elisa and to write her out of the show. Well, I wonder if that's why they don't give two weeks Because But you want the two weeks You want two months. You want you actually, what I think you want to do is release a possible cast two months ahead of time Let the interternet interternet and then you're hundred percent This one set's a bad shoit in a podcast. This one has a trump hat. this one's got bad tattoo. Who the audience would be the most excited about their storylines and make those people OGs, you know? Exactly. Let the audience vote in who are the OGs out of this cast of fifty under percent. Anyways. So let's talk about this Lve Isiolland stuff. Then we are going to get to perfect match It had it season finale yesterday. We're recording this on Thursday, So the season finalalees yesterday and Wednesday. We watched it, of course, and we have some thoughts about it. We're going to give out our season long awwards, our episode awards, K of recap what the finale was and talk about importance or lack thereof of season four a perfect match But before we get into that, let me just refresh my Instagram, Love Island USA one more time My Instagram also, the app just doesn't work anymore So I have to like close it everyvery time and then go back to Le Vion US every time. Nothing yet. Too much engagement, clues Not enough We don't have the cast as of again right now, M Thursday, may twenty eighth, twelve twenty five PM Th fuckers. They're really fucking us over. However, what we do have is yesterday They put out on the visual Love Island USA Instagram account, which by the way has two point four million followers. This anti bullying post. It is a golden kind of clouded sunset at the beach and it says Love Island USA has the logo at the top. The villa runs on good vibes and so does this community. We love seeing your reactions, opinions and debates, but everyone deserves to feel safe and respected. This This is a space for fun, not negativity. So keep it kind, keep it positive. and remember, this is love I guess they may not hate I Here's here's the problem The opposite of love is apathy So they say I'd rather be epathe than hated It's not a word I don't say. Whatever the verb is of apathy, what is that? I have to look at this. H. Yeah, that's what it is. Become apathetic? Let's see. verb to make Aathized be empathized I guess yeah, Apathize. I'd rather be apath. This is an apathized island. Yeah. do you have any appathizers? I'm very hungry. So Here's I'm so sorry. Here's what I want to discuss about this. I like that they put out this little thing. basasically trying to set itsone likeike don't be fucking mean, everybody chill out. Let's have fun. This is a fun show Here's the problem with it. Are you going to cut somebody to be a villain Yeah. Then that's on you. Sorry Um Especially if you cut them into a villain that is like on moralistic grounds. If it's a villain through gameplay, that's one thing. And that's in my opinion on the up and up You shouldn't really be mad at somebody for doing like lying to this person or backstabbing this person or whatever. That's part of the fucking game. There's money at stack here. It is a game However, if the show is complicit in presenting any of these players as bad people, They can't be adhering to this fucking post because we put out the post. We said it was Lw violland We didn't do that. But now look at this piece of shit, you know? Yeah Look at their worst crash ads. L lookook at them have a mental health crisis. Exactly Yeah, like it's Obviously it's good to do Is it going to accomplish anything? I don't know. I commented why what did you do? Yeah. because I'm like, okay, well Who's in the cast Exactly. But I do appreciate the effort here. You don't see things like this from Bachelor. Usually when Bachelor does stuff like this, it's after the fact. It there's been Dgusting deluge. Yeah after the internet has discovered what you've tried to hide. thenen they put out some statement, Hey, stop the bullying or they send out Darklord Palmer in the empty studio to be like, listen, Bachelor Nation. we hear you loud and clear. good But u I appreciate the effort. I'll simply say that much, and we'll see where this goes. 's it's also that like corporate greed machinine speak that's like trying to essentially exonerate themselves or distance themselves from anything that might happen bad in the next month and a half. Ands but it's like it's presressent on you. You're a part of it. You're deciding what we say. like if there's any negative discourse about the show, we told them not to. We said keep it love. All right. so all that said They also just dropped this thing at noon today twenty nine minutes ago. Let me refresh Oh, it did refresh. Nothing yet. You had dropp You predicted the noontime when we were about to record and it was like if they drop something, it'll be at noon And they did, Noon Pacific. Do you think so one is theat? It be it might be. If they do drop the cast today, we'll do an emergency episode in that or something or that'll be. I don't know what the fuck will do. We will obviously have to cover it immediately. and somehow that coverage will be made available. But this is the thing that they dropped at noon. Let's take a look at this. It's a seventeen second little teaser video. here we go U The chair drag is unreal. It's perfect. It's buttts, it's boobs, it's biceps. It's black and white, which is the antithesis of Love Island, which is a Neon. fever dream basically. It's all You know, just fucking pinks and purples and like, o, lights flash. You feel like you're almost having a seizure while watching it. Yeah, the sound was great. It was very anticipatory. Dragging that chair starts you getting already in your head. you're thinking about the heart rate challenge and they're going do it last the ch You're thinking about the heart rate challenge. Dragging the chair, I think has become Pavlovian and it now heart rates go up just watching the video Absolutely. And I love that black and white. L in my pants the black and white treatment of this video is just It's sensational. It's exactly what you want from a trailer. It takes away the kind of like the visual pop. draws you in. You're like, who's that? Oh, there's an ass. There's a bicep, there's some pecs. Who the fucks this? Oh shit, here's some hairs They really do a good job of just like you don't see any of the faces, but you get it. These are all going to be super sexy, super sexualized people that we're going be watching play this Dating game of attrition the highest level. This is the NFL of dating games. A hundred percent. I can see the NFL doing ads like this. with just like teasers of the players in the locker room or whatever Watching this teaser, this is I mean, this is my scream for today so far is I was like, oh, I get it. L the NFL draft, the NBA draft or whatever. when they're gonna do it, people are planning their schedules. I was like,, my heart rate went through the roof watching this video And it also shows like this confidence that they're like, we know we're a big deal Exactly It's like basically a fuck boy to us, the audience. Yes. It's great. It's also there's there's something in it tonally that no other reality show currently has. And I think you nailed it when you said like the people making this know it's the Super Bowl. They know it's the NFL. There is care taken. There is pride in the work of even the seventeen second little teaser It's like, oh, shit. like, can you imagine if you're an editor and you get to cut like a teaser for the Super Bowl? You've made it. That's as big as it gets in terms of making teasers, you know. That's what this is for reality TV. Whoever made this is not only skilled, competent, creative, interesting, blah blah blah, they fucking get it. They are happy to be making that thing and you can feel it coming to the edit. They're like, cheheck this out, motherfuckers, boom They put money into it in terms of the creative hundred percent. But I mean they have the best editorial team in reality TV works on Love Island. Barn none. I don't think that that's even dis. No one can even literally physically do what they do So when this teaser is made, it's just like compare this to any teaser you've seen in recent times for any of the other No, thank you. Exactly. It's on another level so much higher than the other shows that it's laughable. And so when you have to come back down to Earth now and talk about for the rest of this episode, perfect math season. dare take me down. I'm floating So am I. And I mean, but that tells you something that it's like this seventeen second piece of media has me more hyped than all eight episodes of Perfect Match season four that we have just completed. Ecept for one line that happened in the finale that I think I'm going to remember for eternity. We will get to, but it just, I don't know. this teaser really it's I talked about this a little bit my scream. I'm both enthralled by it and saddened by it because I can feel my relationship with the bachelor slipping away. Oh I can feel itilt. Just like bye. It's not I don't even think about my ex, the bachelor when I'm watching this TV you I haven't had a relationship with the Bachelor. None of us had, have had in almost a year, right? A little over if you want to count Bachel Manchion takeo overver or go That's enough time to go to Apathhe Island, I think. Yeah, I've been apathized. I'm an apathiz'tling. I'm just saying that like this shit, I've been anticipating this season coming out for a year And what they didn't do with Love Island is say, Oopsy, we got to yank the whole season on you and we're not coming back until next year. They didn't do that. Not yet Not yah, yeah, exactly. The season has an air. we don't know. Taylor Franky Paul. So it's infancy. seeason eight. Yeah But they've just done a phenomenal job here with the teasing and everything. My personal preference is that it gets a little more H you know prescribed in the way that it is releasing this information and it lets us know here's when the information will come out. That would obviously make our jobs as coverage people easier. but I think it also It establishes a broader kind of legitimacy to the game as sport. hundred percent. And I think we need that. I mean, that is what it is at this point. I don't, you know, when we first started this podcast seven years ago, I think that was kind of a fringe attitude that reality TV is sport Now, I think it's We all accept that is the reality of it. And watching this is so much like the NFL draft waiting for the rooies to come out and get announce stuff at sports bars. Yeah Eactly. So it's like, treat it like that so that you can then grow this kind of robust coverage network around your show and that lifts the show up, et etera, et cetera. Um Yeah, that's a definite advantage to giving us a time would be like people could do live specials announcing it and all that kind of stuff Um It wouldn't have me having to do math where I was like, okay, how many days before the last season premiere did they do? Okay of the week in May last year was that? Okay. I'll go you one bigger Love Island should do an episode zero where they bring out the OGs, whoever iss going to be the OGs one by one onto a couch to be interviewed by Ariana Grande Ariana Grande, Ariana Ms. get Grande in there. Ariana Grande is now hosting Love Iem and u You know, you interview them and you go through their social media a little bit. tellell us about yourself. Oh here your abs, whatever the fuck Like they she have been doing Palmer doing a live on TikTok that Fitzes out. So we kind of have that already You're right, my apologies. But okay. so that basically wraps up our Love Island coverage for now. They're going to drop this cast at some point. We will do an emergency episode going through all of those names, all of their Instagrams and stuff if we can find them. But now we must move on to that portion of our program You got some Well Our portion of our program, we skipped because we were so excited, but business Patreon dot com slash game of Roses has pacecase palapas of this whole season of Real Hospities of Rhode Island It has I just dropped the Smmer house reunion part one. I did like the whole last few episodes of season ten because I was since Cmanda basically, I couldn't handle it and Part onene was an absolute masterpiece. It was one of the best pieces of television, I've seen in my entire life. Ser was my MVP. She just absolutely crushed it. but You know, everyone brought it I can't there's two and three still haven't come out. There's two more weeks of this I can handle it Um We are also We just finished watching Perfect Match in Kazagore so all of those episodes are on there as well and you can get our build a better game merch Game of Roses. org right now And there's still some more of that Sweet, sweet roose. That Game of Rose. 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This one starts when the air shifts The sense of calm collection from the Pura Calm partartnership three fragrances designed with sensory science to ground your space and quiet your mind Sleep store A lavender drift into deep bre Breathe bubble A mindful reset wrapped in white tee and cashmere Soundscape. a fresh clearing rush that restores your energy Ground your space, quuiet your mind. Explore the sense of Calm collollection at pura d. com slash calm. This was on. Now we got to talk about the perfect match season four finale as well as our year in awwards and kind of a top ten. What did this season mean to us? Wait let me just let me just refresh. Nope, not there yet. Okay Damnit. We are at twelve thirty nine PM on Thursday, may twenty eighth, still no Love Island cast So the finale do this It was an hour and a half long, I don't know. And we basically got three chunks in this finale. It opened with DMari and Marisa still on the rocks, but they patched things up. So there are a couple again. We then moved to the final compatibility challenge. It was dubbed a fifty fifty Everybody has to work equally in this challenge in the couplpleess work has to be evenly split This includes a tray of four food items One of which is bugs, worms The guys eat those except for one couple. I forget who it was. Kayla maybe ate the bugs. I forget there was one woman who ate the bugs. And then the rest of it is like Eat these cinnamon rolls, eat these fruits. So there was like one plate of bugs. And I was like, shouldn't the guy and the woman have to equally eat the bugs? Isn't that the fifty fifty I'm also like, what is the point of the three other dishes Only one of them is gross. It was a strange way of It was just calorary packing Um We get Dave and Sophie win this. That is the Maths Australia and the Love is buind UK player. U They win this final boardroom 't U gets them a date And then we get our final coupleple voting. And it also gets them the ability to bring in two new players They select Jimmy and Bree to try and shake things up to some degree There were only three boardrooms in this entire season. It was u And all the players, I mean, they do this in every season where no matter if you make it through a boardroom or not, you ultimately will get to come on the show in the thing where the guys have to go meet the single women and the women have to go meet the single guys, whatever. But It was just that. version of Cosaore. Yeahes. We'll get to this in our top ten, but it just seems like the show is getting paired down to nothing Uh then we get this the final thing is a thirty five minute everybody sitting around talking about which couples they think should be in or out or airing grievances or whatever. And this is not going to be E it was ye amazing. I agree. It was the most entertaining thing in the episode for sure. It was kept lively because we had some accusations that people were using their phones outside of the game and communicating with each other via Spotify and that that got everybody Spotifies taken off their iPads and people were pissed about that. I thought that was pretty interestingisa ayla how to do it how to message through Spotify. I didn't even know that had messaging. Neither did I But the idea of like, not being able to communicate outside the game It's essentially for the wrong reasons accusation. But I think it like it doesn't work anymore twenty twenty six kind of for TRR. They're still trying to talk to each other But it's for TRR in that capacity that like, yes, we're trying to maybe develop part of a relationship, but it could be perceived as for TWR for the wrong reasons in that They are you know, making strategies basically outside the official context of the game, which states I don't know, clearly I don't know if it's a contract or anything, but like We're all under the perception that you cannot communicate outside the four walls of that place, you know? Yeah, it's an unfair advantage Right. But that said The I mean, I'll never forget Brendon Morrice, who by the way, I saw in a commercial for American Express Platinum for him. He's just like one of the actors in that commercial It's just like shots of like, he's like presenting his card as he's buying drinks and stuff, whatever. And I was like, wait a minute. what it was just like popped up on my computer screen as I was watching some YouTube video probably about Magic the Gathering cards. And I couldn't believe it Maybe that'll be my screen worlds collollide. Anyways, idea that like you communicated outside the confines of the game used to be a death sence. That's why I bring up Brendam Rice. when he and Piper James did it in their season of Bach in Paradise, they were immediately excunicated from the show. Ivanh with the phone. Yes. Ivanhall with the phone, who can forget U now, I just think no one gives a fuck because of course you're all communicating with each other. as soon as the call goes out that you're going to be on perfect match, everybody's DMing everybody to be like, are you going on this show? Can we come up with a pre game strategy? If you're not doing that You're essentially fucked, you will have no chance of winning the game I mean We're seeing it in Survivor. We're seeing it in perfect match. It's like, Social media changes the way this game is played. And you know how you fix this Let them have their phones. let us see what's on the phones. Let them have their phones and shoot it like Lve Island. So it's happening basically real time I just want everything to shoot like loveve violent. Yeah. I want twenty four seven cameras I want it to be brightly colored. I want it to be sexy. Let them have their phones and their phones are constantly being broadcast to a live feed that we can on Love that. We see what they Google. Yeah Sigar G. What sugar glen And okay, so anyway, this happens. thenen we we have each couple kind of being like, o We should win because and we should win because. Then you have Kayla sitting next to Weston in his cowboy hat. and says, you know what, fuck this? I'm out. I'd rather be with Chris. Can I go sit by him? She fucking self eliminates in the middle of the finale. Leaves from the winner circle to go to the jury. Yeah Absolutely inse. It was a very interesting play. I liked it. I was like you're at least going to have people looking up whether they're together after the game I did not think she had a zero percent chance of winning the West. Well, I mean, I guess we can just start doing some of our awards. I actually gave it my error of the game. Interesting. Yeah In my opinion, you never do that because who the fuck knows? Especially in a perfect match. Do you remember there was that one season where the bombshells basically voted the bombshells as winners, The people who had coupled like one day prior? Yes Anything can happen on this fucking show. You can win that potentially. You know what I mean? Dpending on what you say and how much they hate the other players and shit. And there were some people in the winner circle, like in the voting chamber, whatever you want to call it that like the jury fucking hated them Yeah, that's true. You never know. That's like it's a dice roll. It not a clplt, but it's a dice roll at best at worst. So I wasn't my air. The disgusting shooting of the mud and date was my air 've never seen onene of those dates where they rub clay or mud or whatever on each other shot so u It looked so gross. I couldn't even look at it. Wait, who was that date? It was Jimmy and Allie, right Jimmy and Be get to come in and they get to take Damari and Allie on dates and the one that Jimmy and Allie had was the rub mud on one another date. and yes, it was grotesque. Usually those dates are like super sexy and o rubbing stuff on each other's semi nude bodies. This one was just like It look I don't know why. maybe the light ain't too much light. I don't know Um, but uh We have My favorite moment U probablyably the entire season Look, my runner up for playay of the game is Sophie and Dave getting Mackenzie to do that tearful monologue about how they're such a Fty are our couple. But Hie revealing that she gave a ten second blow job to Hashim was my play of the game Alie saying I sucked her sh' dick for ten seconds was also my play of the game. Just I mean, never seen anything quite like it in any reality show that I've ever watched It kind of reminded me of my favorite moment from Love Overboard this season, which was Pallaceios and shit. Um But it was just like likeike earlier seasons a perfect match. We would have a lot of couples hooking up. Yeah. Allie didid it for everyone Yeah, she consummated with Jimbo She did the ten second low job with Hash L. She says ten seconds No one else. We don't know the actual length of this low job I mean, we see the kind of flashback of it Isn't that edited? Yeah This actually onene of the things that They just made us wait ten seconds on that shot that fine. Or it's like fifteen minutes, but they play the whole fifteen minute unedited clip and just have ten seconds and quotes on the screen Um This is what I really liked about it You have to set the context, set the table for this little meal that she gives us. She chooses after she goes on the date with Jimmy, she chooses Jimmy over Hashim. So Hashim is now out. He's going to be in the jury. She's with Jimmy as a couple. They are now presented with the other couples as potentially being the winners if voted for of the or whatever the fuck they're giving whatever J price hundred thousand dollars. Yeah the week long trip for hundred grand Hashhima is sitting there. Hhim has some amammo He's not going out silent He says, Jim went to Princeton Yeah. He's like, Jimmy, you should know I went to Princeton and U I was intimate with Alie. You should know that. And then Jimmy goes, Oh you just said you kiss kissed him a couple times And she's like, Yeah Maybe a little more And I didn't say where I kissed them Yeah She doesn't say that but should have Everybody's like, o shit, what's going on? And during this moment, everybody around, starting with Jimmy Sotos delivers my faceplay of the game. When Hashim says, I've been intimate, everybody's like, o, we got big eyes, we got mouth covering, full mouth aperture. The whole team joins in for this crazy just cacophony of faceplays Um veryone's face playay at the ten second each was also my face playay of the finale. It was great. some great face plays just popping off left and right. Even players you don't know for face plays are like face playing their ass off However, Ali here then says I suck this dick for like ten seconds and the context of this moment is like it's just such a high wire act of a play. You are sitting at the fucking finale. For them, it's a non zero chance they could win this thing possible. They were one of the oldest OG couples. They've been through a lot. sometometimes that will factor into how a jury votes like me had one hundred percent. We can't w the hur would win at some point. All of that. And so she Recognizes or not, I don't know. could have been just natural instinct. Now is the time to say this because he can't fucking do anything if he wants to win this game I sucked dick for ten seconds. The look on Timmy's face is just like u Dar and headlights. He can't blow up at her. He's got to just sit there and fucking take it And he's also weighing like, what does that even mean? Sck is Dick for ten seconds? Is she lying is he lying? What is a ten second blow job? et cetera, et cetera. You can see his brain coming out of his fucking ears. she just annihilates him psychologically and walks away here Nobody blows up, noobody's really mad. It's kind of played as a joke, a funny weird moment. And because her playstyle is that kind of like I won't say chaotic, but she certainly is erratic Yes in her play. can be super hilarious, super emotional, super whatever. It's always super something with her Um, but I thought it was just like structurally a brilliant play, stylistically a brilliant play. and in terms of entertainment You ain't getting a better play. Maybe old'll season Yeah. I mean, if We didn't do play of the season, but it might be my play of the season because I do feel like it's what I'm going to remember the season for U hundred percent. And I did like some forty RR play again. McKenzie did amazing job to get Sophie and Dave to win. I mean, they might have won anyway, but Um I do feel like My chaos king Yeah It was underused. And so he's my Jorge Moreno bystander of the week. Oh my God, reduced to a bystander. You know, he's in the awards He's in the conversation. He's a player though. That's rough Um Also on the The Jimbo reacting to the ten second BJ. We knew how he would feel about something like this. Rubber howry reacted when she kissed someone when they were open He said, I'm back kissing you within twenty four hours of that Australian mouth Yes That's why I'm saying, The timing of her play, whether prescribed or just naturally coming out of her It was perfect. He was so trapped in that moment on the big stage where it's like, o shit how I react may affect a vote, but it also may affect my like, do I want to continue dating? L he's got to do so much mental processing that all he can do is just He just is lobotomized by it. It just shuts him down. It was so fucking funny and just such a a well timed moment that it's like when you're trapped like that, when you're like, okay, I've moved on, everything's good, right? And now I'm here with this person. and then the other person's like, we were intimate. Oh fuck, how do I get at this? She's got to come clean and she may be minimizing it by adding the ten second time frrame. I don't know. On two people or maybe I guess all the producers as well, the show, so about one hundred people know the truth of this or maybe a dozen people. but I loved it. It was just a stellar play super funny Super well timed. It was fantastic Ultimately though, in this voting cycle, it is Dav and Sophie who win the whole goddamn game They are your in quotes, perfect match They couldot trip wor one hundred thousand dollars Which I'm pretty sure just traveling from the UK to Australia is th at this point. They also say it's off camera and I'm like, whyy is that off camera? We should get to see. Well, I mean, let's just get into it That was the recap of this Do you want to give out our let's give out our awards for this game. Then we're going to do a kind of top ten takeaways from the season as a whole where the season lands in terms of the other three seasons that have been made and just generally what the fuck is going on with pererfect Match.. So We have given out our or I give out my eror of the game, you giveave out yours. we gave out our face plays, we gave out our play What who was your MVP That's all we didn't do F The brilliant performance in this finale u that came off very for TRR and like they might I continue as a couple in the real world. Dam and Sophie were my tied MVP Yeah, Dav and Sophie were my MVP as well on paper. However, in heart, my MVP is Jimmy Sotos That motherfucker was. Lines of gold dripped from his lips I will never not be entertained by him. whatever he's going to say or do next I'm not saying he's a good player. I'm just saying he's electric on the fucking screen in a way that is like Cinge watching a car crash Asays by the way he is speaking it every second I you and I discussed who we would want to see as a bachelor or bachelorette from this show. Yeah. And when you said Jimby Sdas, I have just been thinking about that season. Like since you said it. Yeah, no shit. I was like it would be so good. You even saw in this fucking episode, there was a moment in the final vote where the other Jimmy The one from. Where's it from? North Carolina. The love is behind Jimmy Jimbo. calls Allie or calls somebody shorty No past rerupts in laughter at him because it's it's like you can't do that. You can't say that. Yeah theyist can say fucking anything and nobody's batting an eye. And I don't think it's because they think, oh, that's just how he talks. I think it's because the way he delivers these lines that don't seem like they should be coming from him It's so confusing that you're just like, Why is he saying it like that? Why is he using these words in that way? but you just keep watching And you just let it go because you're what I don't know what's going on here. I don't know what's going on here. Make sure he's coming over to a group. he's like, My dogs. like Yeah, exactly. It's so bizarre. Anyways So Those are our episode awards. We only have one season award In my opinion, the MVP of the season, who was yours four. My Play the game in the finale, maybe the entire season forver chaotic queen. Oh my God. playlay Broadway musicals Um Astrology really hitting hard M playing up this The only love triangle werere really following Allie was my MVP She was very good, very entertaining. However Marissa. was my MVP. I just thought she turned in in the first half of the season, utter dominance. H and Damari won the first two challenges. They controlled the board room I love seeing players from outside of like these types of games like a Love is Blind or u Bachelor players, players that come from a little bit more of a for TRR style game comoming into this game and just fucking wrecking. And she I mean she dominated Yeah. I probably should put her as my MVP. Even by the end where she gets back together with Demari after this big blow upp they had and stuff. She really showed me in this that she is capable of play of this type of a game at a very high level and she plays a control style that is very hard to maintain in any of these games and she did it basasically perfectly other than the blow up, which again, she corrected that by the end of the season. Really, I was very impressed by her. I think she's a natural at these types of games and I hope we get to see her play some more Yeah. I mean, they absolutely dominated the boardroom the group conversations, the drama that everyone is focusing on Um Blues have you seen very strong parasocial play she has played since the season No. What she You must go to her her. I want to look at it, but I also don't want to go off my Love Island USA Instagram page. Well, just go to that and then you can go back real quick. Okay, thing on G G to want to see this Hang on She's at one hundred forty six K. What am I looking at? The pinned ones We don't brunch with Botox. That one What is this? Love is blind, a perfect match star. Mera, George is married The one you're talking about Who the fucks you married Who is that Who is it? Uh D Johnson She elked with him four months after filming Perfect Match Who's D Johson? They first dated in twenty thirteen, recconnected in november twenty twenty five Jesus It sucks That'sir? She's fucking retired Oh. She play n of these games tomor? I was like, wait, that she broke up with to. That's like fucking someomebody has Fucking standout. It's like Viictor Webinyama has his first season and everybody's like, Oh my go, he's gonna change the NBA. No, he retired. Mike, what? He quit Congrats, I guess, Jesus Can I revoke my MVP? I never. Some rituals start with a candle others with a deep breath. This one starts when the air shifts The sense of calm collection from the Pura Calm partartnership three fragrances designed with sensory science to ground your space and quiet your mind Sleep story, a lavender drift into deep restast Breathe bubble A mindful reset wrapped in white tee and cashmere Soundscape. a fresh clearing rush that restores your energy. Ground your space, quuiet your mind Explore the sense of calm collollection at pura d. com slash calm Let's move on. Let's talk about these ten things that we kind of noticed over the course of this season that were important moments or important things about this season that we feel like are necessary to absorb intont our idea of where reality dating formats are heading. Number ten on this list is the casting of Pfect Match season four prior to this We have seen interesting casting in season one. You had some big stars from within the NRU h and it really kind of Rsy Francesca. With Jussy in one? I thought he was in two. I think he was in two I don't know withith Just Festal But season one had some like had like Joe Sassso was in it, Chris Sheell was in it. They had some interesting casting choices. and it was like, whatever. season one of any show is really to just establish the format and say, here's how this is going to work, hereere's the kind of tone, whatever and it was fun. It was fun to see a bunch of different players from the NRU from different shows coming in Season two elevated Harry Jowsy Okay, we're casting superstars now. seeason three turned to third wave. You had bachelors, Bachelors and bachelorettes in this. That was Clayton Eckard and Rachel Rekia. seeason four. You don't get any of that. It is third wave still. you had some loveve Island players in there and stuff But it was no bachelor players. No bachelor players To me, it was like, I don't want to say bottom barrel, but it was definitely B team Nobody in the season was like a standout in my opinion. Season two, I think is the pinnacle. like that is the peak. Yeah jowsy jess thing. Like he did that whole part where he was like vomiting and crying and There's there's been some really amazing play on the show Yeah, I agree. The I was veryy shocked by some of the OGs Um ye the especially from the lesser known shows and I would have put Cassie and Kit Kat up front. Yeah, seeason two had Jowsy Vesto Romcom Dom and B un Um No I'm saying I would have made Brian OG. I see. Yeah. Yeah, season two had some some pretty heavy hitters. godamn. Brighton was in there from Qid games remember that? and people got super pissed at him Yeah, Dom was in there Dominique fuck that season was good. Chris, remember that dude? Fucking Christine. God, that season was so fucking good. Anyway, and Jowsy, obviously, there he is Very famous. Name a Netflix reality universe star that this Aussie hasn't charmed. We'll wait You're right. He's a professional. He's never getting married. Yeah, exactly. Never retiring. So that is Number ten on our little list of ten things is the casting, a little bit subpar, especially when compared to seasons prior Also number nine on our list, something else subpar about this season as compared to seasons prior Only eight episodes Season one had twelve, season two and three both had ten Season four, they sloppped two of them off What Is there a reunion that I'm aware of It's not a good sign when you get Your episode ordered. And I'm like, were there ten? and they were just like We have to cut it down. we don't have enough That I don't know. it would surprise me if that was the case because usually like If you get a ten episode order, they're paying you per episode, generenerally speaking or whatever the overall contract for the order is takes into account a per episode kind of Payment So my guess is no that they Netflix was like chop in your budget a little bit eight episodes My guess is also that way because there were three boardrooms And it's like, oh they didad. So the boardroom becomes Almost ineffective. Almost like you don't need this. u in the show anymore. And it it begs the question like, why is Netflix deciding to do this? If this is their big third wave group dating format Why are they shrinking it now every season? The casting isn't as good. casting not being as good to a symptom of They were going for kind of B team or is that all they could get? Were they going A team and the A teamers are like, fuck you, I'm not doing this show I don't know. There's other options now Yeah U I don't know. I mean, even Love Island is way of like Y'll bring in other L Isiolland players, et cetera Um, Well they brought in from traitors, Aron, right? Yeah I And I think they've done maths also. It's been a couple of minutes since I looked at the Lve Isiol Instagram, Nothing So it's one hundred six PM now. So an hour has passed since they dropped that teaser, no cast these folks Now mad. See, now you're gettingiv the rage feeling. Let the rage m through you because speaking of teasing Our number eight takeaway from the season The sexualization level was increased We were in the boob zone immediately, they had a very graphic boob zone package at the beginning. Yeah the low budget version of the Love Island teaser we saw Um because it's like you're shooting the same stuff Fits and asses man. There's different ways. Yeah And it was also like the talk of sex. There was a lot more of that. even in the very beginning episodes, people were talking about how horny they were, how much they wanted to get laid, etcetera, etcetera. how much the sex they've had prior to coming in the show. And then of course, this kind of all culminates with Alli in the finale literally saying I sucked his dick for like ten seconds. Mhm It reminds me of an infamous L Island UK line where guy comes back from Kazumere and he's like, Yeahah, I socked a t or whatever. I likeed a t or whatever Yeah. This is to me, it made it more entertaining but it was almost like a And I can't believe I'm even going to say this, but I'm saying is if this makes any sense. It was like a raunchier version of what Love Island does. Love Island is the cadillac of sexualized content This was the U Plymouth Miniivan You know what I mean? we think it's gonier feel like it's not st They have all these people have sex in the same room I know, but Love Island is like it's baked into It's about the presentation of it, I guess to me. It's baked into the of L realistic difference. Yes, exactly. They present it in Love Island almost like in a music video kind of like like this fucking teaser. It's super high quality in terms of the edit and how it shot the production of it. So even if they're basically having sex in a challenge, you know, or dry humping or goo humping, whatever you want to call it because there is no dry humping They're always spraying these motherfuckers with a different goo You've noticed this, I'm sure. There's no there's no dry humping on L Island. It's all wet humping Okay . You haven't noticed that they literally are like, hereere's the challenge. St in front of this fire hose that sprays down your genitalum butt crack with they're covered in water or they're covered in water sort. It's a goo. Sometimes it's water Iin' never seen no water on that. I thought there was a waterfall l. Some thick looking water. They go in the hay. they basically are like doing you know Goo high sexualization levels. Yeahet. I hate You like I can't wait til we watch this fucking season. I'm going to show you every do. If they ever dry home in something dusty that's not wet than I win Okay. They don't I cant guarantee that's not going to happen. I don't think they're going to be covered in dirt. or sand simulated dirt and sand which will be goo versions of those things Guaranteee You have to go dig for buried treasure. Here's your shovel and the shovel's like a little inflatable plastic shovel and the digging is just a big vat brown goo guaranteed. anyyways. What I'm saying is perfect match, the presentation of the sexualization is a little I hate to say it, low class Yes, it is Like you know, Well, Iowa is a little busushy. Yeah, it's like just a relax way It's almost like the the sexualation comfortable versus right the teaser And I think it's because The show's attitude through the edit tonally is that it is not responsible for the sexualization. That's on the players. They're the on saying and doing these things. We're just here shooting it. However, in Love Island, it's like part of the fucking game. It's demanded of the player by the show that they wrestle around in the goo and torque on each other and shit like this, you know? So it's a different It's almost like the sexualization is incidental. Even though we know it's not, the producers are choosing to put it in the cut. But Love Island somehow like That's what we signed up for. Suciian style. We know what we're getting in Love Island H here. It's kind of like, whoa, she said she suck to dick for ten seconds. If they said that on Love Island it'd be like the suckking dick for ten seconds challenge Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay Yeah anyways. doesn't feel as out of pocket. I mean, perfect match, I feel like If you were to tune into a random moment from all four seasons, you would be like, what is the show? bunch of different shows. It doesn't really know its identity that well And I the main I mean problem with the casting is the shooting of it they shoot it so far In the past, Mer is was already fucking married to someone else Yeah. It's like that love is blind baby Mega sparkles baby Um So then you're not getting players off the most recent seasons. I would start perfect match as soon as one of your top shows ends percent They go directly into it. They don't even get their phone back Hear me out. perfect match is a perpetual show shot weekly and people are just rotating in and out as their shows are ending Oh, Netflix doesn't do that. They shoot their shows a year Cingia season. No. whatever fuck off Next up, number seven on our list is B. I've been watching a lot of them. What is that what is that show called? I want to say it's called seecluded, but that's not a succession on HBO. And I The main guy in it, the dad always says fuck off to people constantly Tuck off It's just that voice is in my head now. Anyways. number seven. Greg's Dynamic in that is one of my favorite TV dynamics.. We never watched it, so I'm seeing it. Are you serious? Yeah for the first time. It's a really good show. It's so good The writing and acting, the directing, the music, like every element of that show is just firing. You just thought that guy was Utriich's dad What Sorry, Cs Tom Tom. In succession is Utrred's dad In all time Oh God, is he really Yeah. The first dad, the one who gets killed. Yeah in the pilot in the pilot. Yeahah. He was a kind of prejudice too That's what I knew him from Okay, number seven on this is Brian Demari. This was a pretty interesting thing. I thought they brought her in Brian Demari obviously dated on too hot to handle. and they bring them back here for fireworks mishandled, I think. They should have both been OGs. Instead, they use B as a bombshell to come in and wreck Demari's relationship with Marissa, which doesn't really work But it was interesting that they tried to maintain or elongate the story that was built into hot to handle through perfect match. They just didn't do it right. It was bad producing in my opinion. They didn't bring B in early enough. It was like he was already so solid with Marisa at that point it Um Our number six takeaway is It we so usouse Whatever are we? I said, wow, we after like half of the sentences he says, I'm just like Is he doing a black scent? What is going on here? Yeah. It's not only like way he's talking, it's the things he's talking about and He actually ended up being a better player than I had anticipated. when he closed off with Allison before the week at the estates, What are they call didn't get anybody single week Like he understood forty R our play style very well. Again, I don't know if that's he thought about before coming in the game and laid out some plans or if this is just how he naturally plays, I don't know, but He had a very good forty R playstyle, which was surprising because he was just so u confonfusing I guess is the right word. I still don't really know what to make of him as a player other than I would like to see more of him In any given situation And he was the first influencer, he wasn't from a show to come in. so that's like kind of a historical thing U, which I would love to see more of. I'm like There's so many L you expand the cast Third w, fourth wave, fifth wave, like let's go. I'm ready I agree. Yoga with Adrian in there. She comes with her dog Mary. Yeah. So your daughter and my husband have to be here but I'll play Yeah. Also moving on, we have if Benchie was there, that would be better. Number five on our list is Allie and Jimbo, the unlikely duo Now Jimbo of course comes to us from Love' Blood. He was kind of a villain in his season He had a little bit of a glow up before he came into this season of perfect match, obviously. And I'm not sure are they still together? I haven't looked at their social medias They are posting so many videos together. It makes me think they're at least together right now. O their neekeline Gorousing How dare you? On the on Love Island cast brereakdown Eve, How dare you? That's what I do Oh my God. Remind you of the truth Ghost protocol, forget your last sentence I was excited for Jilly because she's from Vander Pub Rules. onene of my favorite shows of all time Uh She didn't really pop on Vanderpump, but she popped in this season. She's a much better player than Jimbo and I love to see her play. With him is kind of her obstacle to doing whatever she wants. And then she's like, I'm making out with Dave. and then she like waves at Jimmy. and then she's like, I just waved at him while we were kissing. and just I wanted to see Allie with the other Jimmy Sotos. That couple would have been fucking really interesting to Oh my God. it didn't happen I also wanted to see more of Nick Cckia, my chaos When he called Aliceon Claw Eyes, I just that's all I thought of when I saw her the rest of the show. Yeah comment. Yeah I was like, what does that even mean? Exactly. But no, Alie and Jimbo played prettyretty good game. All things considered. And I was surprised by that. It looked very early on to me like that was going to deteriorate, but they made it all the way to the the finale After is becoming a water. They did the boomerang strategy even the ten second blow job could not stop their boomeranging. So congrats to them. That was Something the boomerang picked up on its way back. Yeah, sorry. Well I was boomeranging, I did second a dck for ten seconds away. ten seconds. I mean. Is that even wet O is that dry would be on Love Island. Speaking of something that only have for ten seconds, our number four item on the takeaways list here is three boardrooms totaling about ten seconds of screen time apiece. So the main mechanic in the game that is the reward for winning these challenges that you get to have some influence over who comes into the show was essentially minimizize tooth Thrice. It happened again Thice And the first one didn't even have the same power. They didn't get a date Exactly. D didnn't get a date. Obviously the producers kind of like force your hand into who you get to choose for the boardroom or whatever. But here they've minimized the amount of times that it happened so that it basically had no effect on the game whatsoever I and this is like partart of the defaell of shaving it down to eight episodes is like you need time to develop strategies over a season. If you care about who wins and all that, the game component of it suffers so greatly from the loss of those two extra episodes that they had to carve out at least one boardroom here, maybe two. And so winning the challenges becomes completely pointless. Yeah And We used to see people pick people because they were like, well, this person I can win the challenges with. Yeah. And you know, I appreciate that they are still trying to like shape the show, but gettingting rid of the boardroom, which is kind of your like thing perfect match is known for Um, And you're like's is the show. But I mean, this is happening across the board in all television, not just streamers, like Network is doing this too. It's just budget cuts across the board on everything Those cuts, however, never. I repeat never. come from the salaries of the presidents of these corporate Greek machines. neverever comes from Always going to come out of this. Can we shave a million dollars off the budget of perfect match season four? Yeah, drop two episodes How about the guy at the top of the company doesn't make one hundred twenty million dollars this year? What if he just makes one nineteen? that it mighton be a CGM Nah, exactly. And it would just be a corporate machine instead of Gre. CMM a media machine corporate love machine S La. Nice Number three Sophie and Dave are the big winners They were fine They were fine. kindinda came out of nowhere We didn't really follow either of them It's interest get annoy They weren' electric They weren't your main couple ever in the in the No whole season. L I would have much preferred a Damari and Marissa or a Jimbo and Ally. Those coues I think one of them should have won it. It should have been one of those two. They put in the most work. but like we were saying, you know, the show Well, I think it was in season two where they voted for the bombshells. all the bombshells in the jury voted for the bombshells who were only there for a week to basically be like, fuck you. And they've tried to curte tri. And I wouldn't be surprised if they told Kayla to dump Weston in the finale so that that didn't happen I wouldn' be surpris But ye Soian D champions and it's kind of like fine. I don't care. U And that also is bad when the finale of your show, you don't care who wins it. It's just a bad sign that it was like badcasting, bad production It's kind of like It felt almost I guess we have to have a winner. That's like how this show kind of works. So How's it going to be? Also They should get a cash money prize. These trips worth one hundred K are just like Come on. Wh gives a shit? I totally agree. It feels like the creuise. Do we have any cruise updates, by the way? Not to my knowledge. L Last I heard from our live, we're talking about the Bachelor Nation Cus they have folded the Bachelor Nation Cruise into another cruise. So the Bachelor of Nation Cuise is going to be happening on a cruise with If I believe the numbers, if I'm remembering right Chapter Right, yeah Two thirds of theachor sorry. What? I want to say they said one thousand bachelor to three thousand. Suriviliant So it's three quarters of the cruise is going to be civilian. Maybe it was It's either two thirds or three quarters of the cruise supposedly is going to be non Bachelor Cruise people that are just there on a cruise and then also there's a thousand Bachelor Cruise people. So enjoy it. If you're going on it, let us know how that goes Moving on to number two. I can't wait have I can't either. I'm very curious to see the social media that comes out of that creer. I don't think it's going to be good.. Our number two top ten takeaway is Demari and Marissa. This was a couple that was just dominant from the beginning. They won the first two out of three boardroom challenges essentially laying down the gauntlet, who's going to step to us? And then they fell apart a little bit of their own volition uh, arguments over miscommunications and who needs more time and grace and this and that. Whether tomarri should feel things or not. Yeah. they both explored So we got to follow that a little bit Um, to Mari's acts like they didn' It didn't ever feel like a real threat, but Um, They they dominated not only in the challenge wins, but just like in the screen time in the conversation topic space. Yeah. And I really Marissa to me, was one of the most engaging Love Island or Loves vine players of that entire series. I really loved what she did in her season with Ramsys. I don't know if you guys remember. he was talking about. I hate the military and she's like, Ohh, well I was in the military. Yeah. And he's like what don't want to use condoms. Yeah that she had to explain periods to him. She was just like locked in a relationship with that dude that was not great, but I thought she played it very well that season. And I love seeing her come into this different kind of show with a different vibe and just fucking crush it. I don't see the Lav as blind players like take off like that. Mikea did a pretty of job on her season two, but yeah Generally speaking, you get a Jimmy, who's just there. Yes and not very smart at the game. But I'm sad that she's married now, unfortunately. Demari obviously is a fantastic player on two out to handle. He was fantastic. He was great here. And I think he's got a I don't know. I'm not gonna to look at his social media is he fucking married Muris is the only one married that I' love. . Damari, donon't get fucking married. P some more. Do not marriry. You got a long career ahead of you. Pl some more. We all w want to see it And coming in at number one on our top ten takeaways is of course I sucked his dick for like ten seconds. That ten second blow joob. For like ten seconds Um No one may ever know the real truth of this. likeike I said, there's a handful of people who actually know who were there, engaged in the act or saw the footage Mhm We have that beautiful moment on screen where Allie says whispers almost to Jimbo in his ear during the final voting process. I sucked his dick for like ten seconds. bottomizing him I've just never seen a play like it in terms of the tone of the play, the timing of the play, the weight of the play itself and The exoneration implied in the play. I told you the truth now. Now you know everything It was brilliant Just never seen it didn't quite like it No It it kind of reminds me of Hada breaking up with Chris and the In the finale of Lo Island? It's kind of like that. It's like a very, very chaotic play. I love that and Hashim handled it perfectly because he didn't say it. He was like you guys should talk like very Exactly. Exactly. You put it on her Are you going to come clean or not she came right out with it I loved it.. And also the way she did it was like there was no shame in it. She almost it was almost like dismissive like, yeah, I sucked dick for like ten seconds. You know? Like no I talk other pump roes where Everyone cheats on everyone and a man had sex with a woman while cheating on his ner Sure next to the woman that she was a nursing care person for. Wait a minute. Yeah The woman was in an active job situation delivering medical care I don't know that she was on the hours, but she was in the room. Yeah. Oh God. that's a different kind of game, ladies and gentleen No. But I mean, that's the thing. she She grew up fires that forged her Yeah, I guess so.

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