Awards and Final Season Predictions

It's the Game of Rses! Welcome to the Game of Rosers! This is the Game of Roses. Welcome to the Game of Roses Welcome to Game of Roses. This is Pacecase. This is Aual clues. We're going go through episodes fourteen through eighteen of Love Island USA season eight Yay And all the things contained therein, rest assu your. Be Before we do that, there has been a lot of talk As we are going through watching every episode on our Patreon, about a certain person unrelated to Love Island, and we are going to put that conversation to bed right now. Oh god, I forgot about this I didn't N Steel tamp. Okay Ging discourse as we are watching Love Island aboutbout an actor named Timothy Shaly, if he's good or not And I do an impersonation of him that comes from Willie Walker or sorry, Wonka. It's just called Wonka when Chalomet was wonka Yeah There's a scene in the movie where Wh should have won an Oscar There's a scene where his co star walks in on him And s she goes, what are you doing? And he goes, Making chocolate, of course. That's my impersonation impression of him So I'm going to play you that clip now. And you can make Dinctions for yourselves if he's a good actor or not This is so mean. Remember, what are you doing O only one point six C les. this can't be that big Ready? Okay How do you do it making chocolate, of course. How do you like it? Dark, white, nutty, absolutely insane. He is n. I't like what you said. Never had any. I'm making chocolate of course That's part it. No What? You've never had chocolate? I rest my case, Your Hor. I love the screaming Laking chocolate, of course That's not how he says it at all. I thought You were gonna convince me somehow. How's he saying? Bacon chocolate, of course Thats I might need to watch it again I don't know how you don't maybe you don't know how you are coming off. It's not close I'm making chocolate, of course. I're making chocolate, of course It's more like Jim Carey That it is with chocolate, of course What are you doing? H my control? You were doing like aers. Like ye. I don't know. Like my control Yeah. I like that. No, he's not That was really aw Whatever. Now we talk about Lb Island. All right. so a lot happen. in this violent sequence of episodes over this past week, we got some dumpings, we got some couplings, we got some suckings, we got some prizings, we got a bunch of stuff Let's just dig into this. shall we? This is in what we believe is chronological order. Please don't hold us to that in a court of law. but It is close to chronological order. Oh yeah. we have fourteen points here to get through. So the main week is this is the Cosma Mar Wek. Do not listen to this if you haven't watched that bunch of episodes. True. And historically, this was not on our list, but historically To my knowledge, this is the first time ever Love Island was screened in movie theaters across America. Yeah the second episode of Casso More, what would have been episode eighteen? We probably should have put that on here. Yeah, I mean, well we can just talk about it now. We didn't go to it. I have seen no social media about it, but I also haven't been Um, it didn't come into my algorithm. It wasn't presented to me served to me. That's not good because you were considering going. I don't know. I don't know if it well or not. I have to imagine it was fun. If anybody out there did go to one of these screenings, please Make a post about it, tag us in it so that we can check it out. I would be curious to know if it was fun, if it was kind of dumb, you know what the vibe was at it. I imagine it was fun though I'm sure it was super fun. I do think that they maybe should have done the episode before that as the screening one, but Yeah ser a little bit of a snoozer It's been a bunch of good ones in a row, though All right I's clues. Let's do it. The first big thing that happened in episode I believe at the end of episode fourteen or maybe fifteen We got a double dumping. This is after the they made them do that challenge where they all to write letters to each other. And if you open up your mailbox, it didn't have a letter vulnerable And so of course, the three people that are vulnerable are drum roll, please Caleb Solingen, the big bombshells and it it just proves once again that if you're not an OG in this game, you are fucked It's a mechanical problem with the game It's something that we we have basically seen this week that they are trying really hard to combat Um to make couples more open and not just stick with OGs, but We'll see, We'll see if they're able to pull people off Um Soul when she is down from the villa calls a couples Island, says no one is open And Casey tells Ana that he would have explored Seoul if she had stayed. An absolutely unforced error, but somehow not his biggest error this week. Exactly. That's what I was going to say too. I'm like this is fucking So dumb. She's gone Why would you ever say that unless you are trying to somehow prime Ana for the idea that you are going to dumpper when Casa happens that you are open. Remember, we haven't closed off. if it feels like something like that. And nobody has closed off. Remember. So we got Soul getting dumped here and Gabe. And of course, the guys are mad that the women voted gabe out And the women are mad that the guys voted out So And Bea, right? Didn't she get dumped here too? No, that was prior to this H. But there's no in this type of a thing where they're like, here's the three people The women have to vote out a guy, the guys have to vote out a woman. There's no good vote ever. You're never going to appease the other. There were four, right What's up? There were four Jan and Sl And uh I think it was three apiece. It was Ken Jen and soul And Gabe, Caleb and Corbyn were the choices H And so the guys selected Sooul I believe they could sayer didn't want her there because that was going to blow up his game with Melanie. And then the women selected Gabe. inexplicably because I guess they thought he didn't embody the He's for two WR lustful. Lustful We get that eventually Kenzie because the guys come back to Kenzie after this vote out and basically say like you were on the fucking traoppking block too, you basically did the same thing Gabe did. You jumped to another couple immediately. you dumped your guy Zach, now you're with Corbyin. How is that any different than what Gabe did? And she maintains, well, I didn't do it with lustfulness in my heart It is it comes up again and again, this lustful thing. And I'm just like, What show are we watching No shit. suuck his toes. suck his toes. It's like After the challenge that we saw tonight and she was mad that she didn't suck the toes hard enough or suck enough body parts or whatever. But in a this is also like the weirdness of this show is like in a challenge, anything is admissible and it doesn't have any reflection on your character your attitudes about love, romance, any of that stuff. That's where the complexity of human behavior comes in because you can have boundaries and be like, challenges go wild, but then still get mad Exactly. Our second top moment of the week was the Girth cheack Zach and Bryce have been really trying to in my opinion, force this dynamic duo upon us and are Engaging in chemistry play with each other. H U And in this instance Rice holds open his shorts and Zach looks and they call it a girth check Later, they talk about how Bryce showed it to him and calls it a giant snake And he said he was only half erection . So And rest of them both. Yep. We move on to the Castle challenge This was a focused fairy tale balloon popping goo slathering toe suck There's so much to shit. So much foot shit in this dumping. Is There there too much in this entire season, you're saying, right It's a lot of foot stuff Um It's not for me. I don't like watching it, especially because they even talk about how everyone's feet are salty and dirty. Yeah, it's not just foot stuff. it's foot stuff with Goo and with Whatever dirt, sand, whatever you've been walking around in all day, picked up on the bathroom floor Wh the fuck knows what? brightly colored. Cches that have been here how long? I don't know. And there is an element in this game of like With the goo. We talked a little bit about the goo, I think last week. what it represents. We talk about the Google lot Well you have to. It's in every episode They bring the goo, ourur job is to talk about what they bring, which is the goo I didn't make the goo. I'm not the goooo guy. I'm not saying you're bringing the goo I'm just'm just saying we don'top talking about it. I'm the guy gabinbout the goo E it They put it on a show. likeike this is a creative choice, obviously. They have to manufacture the gallons of neon goo, they have to find the receptacles for the goo, or build the devices that are going to explode the goo on people's faces or whatever The goo is, in my opinion, a simultaneous representation of both Um, sexuality. It basically is like a sexual fluid. And serve the double purpose of making them more childlike It is like there was an old show in Nickelodeon called Youan't Do that on Television, where they would slime these teenagers whenever they would say the phrase whatever, a bucket of O maybe that was water. h they had a couple of phrases and whenever somebody would say it on the show goo or water or whatever would hit. when they said, I don't know, that's what it was slime would fall from the ceiling on them This is very reminiscent of that to me. in my mind kind of like Bridge is this weird thing of like, it's hypersexual and child like play simultaneously happening There's also the element of like getting them dirty so that they're more likely to do whatever because they're like, this is a wild experience Sure. Things are slippier. And then they make in the dried goo to do all their ITMs and all their kind of like recaps of whatever just happened in the challenge they. It's a very strange thing But G also lends to the lossfulness. I mean, I'm thinking of the Big Bed challenge. They all put their different coloreor goo on everyone and it was very lustful. The good the guys. the good guys anyways Kenzie initiates this idea that she is anti lust campaign will remain through the duration of the rest of these episodes even though She is also the purveyor of a phrase known as French fries. which seems to be very lustful Trinity even talks about how She says something I forget the exact phrase, but she's basically like, that was more than kissing. That sounded way too wet I thought Trinity invented French fries Maybe she did But it was in reference to Kenzie's behaviors with cor Yeah in the bed chambers I mean, I don't know if she invented them. It's the first time we're hearing it on camera That was We often hear islanders make up all sorts of metaphors so that they can openly talk about quote unquote, doing bets or opening the wrist going to the restaurant or wasn' it one of them Castle Crash or whatever they were talking about some mobile phone game. What level did you get to? Battle Royale or whatever it was I mean It's we got the invention of a bunch of different terms this week that I really very much enjoyed. But this French fries goes it's like immediately It invalidates the idea that she is not lustful immmediately I don't know where that's coming from from her in terms of like a viable strategy to say like, no, no, no, I'm not lustful. Gabe was a lustful piece of shit and deserved to get kicked off this show because of his lustfulness. Meanwhile, she's French friing But she was for TRR Right, It is a for t R French friesing of course Nothing to do with lust. Nothing to do with lust less Fries. Yeah. I can have a large fries hold the lust Kenzie then gives us Oh wait, this is after this. Oh right. Yes. So Casa A more beginning is our next Big moment. This happened in episode seventeen, I believe, right? seventeen was the beginning, eighteen was Movie theater, we just watch nineteen tonight Wait we watch nineteen tonight? Yeah shoot What do you mean? No, I thought we went to eighteen. Oh no, we're going to nineteen. Sorry, I think I was miss saying that as well So casaore begins and It is, I think the best producing of the entire season so far. This episode was unbelievably entertaining And I think the way they did it They had the guys and the girls. they're all getting ready to do what they call a heart on fire challenge, not a heart rate challenge But it seems to be a similar kind of thing where they're going to make each of them go off into their gendered groups, dress in their kind of stripper esque joke outfits of like firemen and cop and whatever. No they don't have the cop. Sean got sent home Hm They then are basically told you're going have to come out like grind on each other. And then instead of that happening, the guys get a text when they're in their little outfits and it says casa Kazel Morzar is having right now And so the guys are whisked away to Casa while the women are left to stay in the villa. The women come down the stairs in their outfits and they find a giant box sitting there and they're like, Ohh my God, what's in the box? They think the guys might be in the box. Nobody knows They sit down around the fire pit, the box opens and it is a big TV They are watching the guys in Casa as they are getting lap dances from, making out with grabbing asses of, maybe doing some french friising. We don't know these six new bombshells that enter Ga There was A lot of touching. It was extremely lustful We usually see this heart's on fire challenge where pretty much everyone knows each other or maybe there's one bombshell. So it was this very interesting dynamic because it's also Kaza where like they need to partner up with someone to get on the show Yeah. and S it Guy's performance in response to the Kaza Aur women Dancing on them was my error of the game. Collectively, I think It was it was just errors all around. They know that they're being filmed. Everyone knows they're being filmed except Sincere Yeah, sincere doesn't know. And maybe that guy who doesn't have a social media account Um It was also my error of the game I have never quite seen something like this. Th guys are not just like, oh, I'm exploring. We have to give these bombslls a chance. They are hardcore grabbing their ass Throwing into the air, making out with them, making out with multiple of them, looking at each other and fist bumping like, o my God, dude, this is crazy. It's like, all that's going to come back to haunt you. Every frame of it. and they don't even know. it's happening as it's happening. The frame don't know how b it's tount them Yeah. think may' be a delay on their haunting, but Every season, at this point, there's some information that is relayed to the other side or Movie night type thing. You God be prepared for this happening And so the women women are all sitting around the fire pit watching all of this happen in real time or near to it probably. And you're getting their reactions. Every one of them is basically saying, fuck you to whatever guy they're in a couple with. Kenzie kind of most prominently is basically saying like, fuck Corbyn, I'm never talking to him again. You even see Melanie getting piss at sincere very least sad, all of them, Trinity watching Bryce, they're all not into this. Iin says, guess I'm not going back to my partner. Yes, exactly. The guys seem so enthusiastic about indulging in these lab dances and stuff with these bombshells that it seems to have severed all these relationships and it's fantastic producing. Because we were talking about this as we were watching it I guess a problem in prior seasons is that the guys always like do their thing and the women are always like, I miss my guy and they don't engage So this was designed specifically to get the women, the OG women to see this and be like, fuck you, I'm doing the same goddamn thing. And I thought it was going to work I did too. I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful, but I mean, it's strong. It's hard to beat them spending twenty four hours a day together for weeks. it's hard to for a new connection to overturn that. It's the nature of the game too. like look No one is coming on this show to find their soulmate coming on this show to get Massively famous. What about Say? No no social media. His family started an Instagram for him tonight There you go. I mean, I was just and he's going to have If he does well, maybe a couple hundred thousand Instagram followers when he comes off the show and his family's going be like, lookook, we started this for you. You can delete it if you want. And he's going to be like, Ohh wait though S somebody's paying me money to do a fucking potato chip commercial on my Instagram reels. I think I'll keep it He starts doing all Swan Kon for social media. Yeah, exactly. He's like the face of Instagram. Instagram. Yeah. He becomes the CEO of Meta.. He becomes an altruistic company. S the planet versus their predatory strategies on teenagers Wait, who does Meta You knowt know about the big st. Oh, yeah, yeah They had like open reports where they knew that Yeah where they were just hing D designing the algorithm was like massively decated eners mental health. Yeah They werere like, fuck it making money though, right? Yep. fuck it Yeah, bury it, bury it. So This whole thing is going down Um And again, I'm of the mind that most people, maybe with the exception of Shay come onto the show to get famous. They know at this point, if they've seen a few seasons prior to this But the most famous people who come out of these shows generally speaking are OGs and generally speaking are relationship OGs like Nichelandria, for example. So they are looking for that model because that is a proven model People who jump to late season bombshells generally don't have that same kind of thing. Somet there are examples of it for sure. But generally speaking I shes have one, but usually when they're paired with an notD. Yeah your odds are generally speaking better to stay with the OG in terms of your social media following, how inquotes America perceives you or whatever. So I think that's in the back of all their minds. and it's again, it's just a flaw in the game mechanic here. D Nonetheless We then see everybody getting mad. and at one point, I believe it's Kenzie and Kita at the end of that episode, walk over to the kind of railing where you know that they can hear you in Casa and they just start screaming fuck Casa, fuck casa and Kenzie town. Yeah, Kenzie does a little assh shake That's like fuck you fuck casa. And then she boom drops into the fuck you casa splits giving us what I believe is the most iconic moment of the season So far Kenzie's angry splits were my play of the game almost gave it to producers for how they did the intre Caza this year, but Kenzie expressing her groin has been a constant with us in probably every episode. It is something she does in every single competition, any chance she gets and Do it to convey anger, Do it to convey a strong emotion But also because you're in your costume that they made you put all this makeup on and practice your dance and stuff. she had been prepareing our whole life for it It was incredible and her face while she is doing it is my facepl of the game U Kenzie's Ereree Spllitz is also my play of the game We are looking for every season What is going to be that mama Sita? What is going to be that thing that is kind of identifiable as the season itself. So far it's this I don't know what's going to have to come out to beat this, but that has been memed. People are imitating it. It's all over the fucking internet, like wildfire. So she did it I uh I texted Erica a gIF of it And I saw when I texted that that she had already sent a meme with that pose in it to me It's everywhere. She She really did it. And I had high hopes for her in the beginning when I first saw her intro where she's on the bed doing the splz. I was like, this is a reality television store I think she has had some fits and starts, you know, she she makes some good plays here and there. she makes some bad plays here and there. She kind of like acquiesces into boring play sometimes. She's not like super electric twenty four seven, but when she is like this angry Slitz, there's nobody on this field who can deliver plays like that I mean, it's how could you even think to do that I don't think she's thinking it's natural. That's that's what I'm It's like part of her. She's like, fucking I' mad, split' fucking I'm happy split fucking I'mungry, split. Like that's how she works And it's to have like a trademark kind of physical capability like that is a rare gift. It reminds me a lot of Tira Lakazi's eyebrow or something along those lines where you've got like a special kind of physicality that you can incorporate into your toolbox And is beautiful Fantastic The next thing that we get is next big moment. We get double we ca some more guys They are really trying to get the women to turn their heads. And they bring them in on a giant boat so that they can wave them in front of the some more guys. He forced the other guys to do a peeping to on And they're like I think it Zach is like, Oh shit, that's more than six That's maybe a dozen. He could he can kind of clock it right away that they're they're getting fucked over. But But even in these little things where're like The women over the guys, whoever are like jealous in their ITMs or they're pretending to like feel some type of way about the shit It just comes across as fake to me I don't think any of them are really jealous or really giveish shit about the other people coming in. Yeah, and like the making out. I mean, we'll get to the kind of final challenge that we saw tonight there's just like a For lack of a better term, the heart is missing from this season I mean you have no closed off couple. you have no a couple, really. Exactly. But even the couples who seem to be lamenting you know, that their partner is off either in Villa or Casa with these new bombshells It just doesn't seem real to me at all. It seems completely fake, completely contrived and the play around it is not that good which is why Kenzie splits is like a different level of play because that doesn't seem fake evenven though it's crazy, right? It's like she's doing this because she's mad. It's like a completely push performance, but it seems somehow sincere from her. It seems and not that sincere, like literally sincere genuine if you will, Catch and stet. Thanks very much It seems like this is just what she she has probably done the angry splitits before in her life. I got no pickles on my cheeseburg Burgering just boom down the floor However you got to get the emotions out Yeah, exactly. We see in episodes sixteen and seventeen that Anayah hits it off with Carl who performs A language lesson mini Date with Anayya. Yeah That was a good play. strrong. Yeah, seemems to be going wrong. But it's like also these guys, they brought in twelve of these dudes. By the way, one of them gave my faceplay of the game. I don't remember his name. He was only in the seeason of Liolland for about five minutes, but he gave a really good faceplay when all the women back at the villa were doing their dances for them. Oh yeah, remember I used it as one of our thumbnails in paton. Yeah They make the women pick which six they're going to keep, which Why would you do this? It's like, it's a good idea. The twelve guys is interesting because it's like, o, look, I'm giving you a smorgis board But then they eliminate half of them almost immediately. Yeah. So these guys let them stay over. Yeah, I just felt so bad for the guys And also it cuts down on our ability as an audience, as the fourth audience to key in on any one of these guys that we hope makes it into the show. You've basically reduced all twelve of these guys screen time by half. Also you've reduced their time with all of the women by half. So it's going to make them harder to get that initial spark that they need to generate any meaningful play. I feel like that's why they cut it down. I upset Yeah But it's like it doesn't make for good narrative building, certainly not for good television I think it's an interesting idea. I don't begrudge them the attempt. I just don't think it worked and Hopefully next season they won't do something like this. I think it's way better. to bring in six people that are like tailored specifically targeting each one of the players person each person should definitely be targeted. and we see that. I mean people will have similarities where you're like That's not possible Um I would Like I love that they are putting in the effort, the loveove Island producers with what they have done here changing this entire intro in a way that I've never seen before, using a bunch of elements we've seen before, but I almost wonder if you cast a season and you just put Whoever you were going to cast in Kaza, they're the OGs. move Kaza up And then it's like, oh, maybe you'll break up a ton of couples Or do you want your strongest people up front? I'm just trying to think of how you How you combat this OG problem I look, this is just my two cents on it. I don't want bombshells. I want everybody to come in. I want like twenty to forty people. o geez, you're there And the show is All about Instagram and TikTok It's whoever has the two people the lowest numbers. E episode get kicked off until you're down to three final couples And that's it. We get to vote through our follows, That's the fucking show. Like it's very simple and it's it puts that all the same elements that Love Island has. in my opinion, it just streamlines them. And I get the bombs shell nature, Oh, are they gonna to break up or not? But wouldn't you rather see All of these players there simultaneously in their couples and then We also still get to do these votes and these challenges. It's like, okay, America. Okay, America, now you get to vote. Which two people do you want to see recouple with each other And then boom America makes that choice. You're recoupled with them now So the two people that you're that are on the outs, it's like, arere they going to couple? Are they going to try and peel somebody? And you have that happening every fucking day, you're going to get massive amounts of breakups and comoming back together and all that type of shit. And if there's a person who has a big number and you have kind of a low number, but you can couple up with them, your cumulative couple number could save you through around. So you're incentivized couple with the highest numbered players. I was surprised we got a fourTW or accusation around not having social media Yeah in this episode It was data talking to Chay. Chay right doesn't have the social media. And it's like She's like, oh, that actually makes makes me like you more makes it more like for the right reasons. It's like, but you have social media. You have a big social media. In fact everyone knows. We should discuss the numbers right now. We didn't do this at the top. that these are the numbers where they stand currently And this, I think, also is telling of this season The number one cumulative follower count across both Instagram and TikTok belongs to Officer, sexy pant, Seawn Rifle, sitting at one point six officer Total exx offfficer, sorry he's nurse now, nurse rifle. One point seven million. You've got Sooul in second place with eight hundred seventy nine K. Ba, third place eight sixty three, Caleb, fourth place Strangely six forty three K Kata Is it five seventy six? Corbyn is it four thirty eight Mackenzie is at four hundred and two A nigh is at three hundred and fifty two. Alanna three hundred thirty one I don't know if that one's going to hold up. And then it kind of goes down from there. Trinity because she doesn't have a TikTok that we can find. I think that's hindering her. She's at three hundred two on Instagram. sameame with Melanie. She's at three and twelve or sorry, that's on Yeah, thoseose are their total followers. Those are Instagram numbers. We can't find TikToks for them. If you know of TikToks for them, hit us up. Bryce who came in with a massive Instagram of one hundred ninety K roughly. Is it two hundred fifty total Casey is at two twenty six total sincere scraping up the bottom at two o eight total. And Zach is down there with him at two hundred six And then you have basically all the rest of its bombshells I mean, can you imagine if they gave the islanders this information Yes It's been in my brain for a long time as a show that I'd love to see been trying to get made for the past three years. It really does make you like consider like be one of the first people vote off. like Yeah All like San, Sooul, Beatrice, like the top three But you only those top for now. and I'm sure like the thing that is weird about Love Island is that none of these players get their phone phones back until they're eliminated from the show or until the show ends if they win it, you know. So there's no point really in following anybody while they're still on the show. because they're not making content. So I think that has something to do with it But That said I also think it's like, it's a little misleading. It's like, yes, Sean has this big number right now. the three people who got eliminated have the biggest numbers But That ain't going to translate to shit once there's the season is over. It's going to be the top five like the last five couples basically or people standing are going to get the biggest numbers, the most spwn conon. the best opportunities to go on other TV shows etcera, et ceter.ook at Rob Rus I out. I was so stressed that whole trader season hoping that he would win. Yeah. theyint putting Dorito on traders That is which is when Kaylo came out with the cowboy outfit, I was like, u I wouldn't do that You can't. You got to retire that outfit aggreed. Well, our next where are we at number twelve, I believe. or no, the cause versusill Villa challenge. We just watched that tonight. So this is the thing where they basically make people who are in Casa, the people who are in Villa Pete against their old other halves so like Ka has to compete against Zach. So it's Kata and Who's her guy whoever her new p show is Oh yeah, Chay. It's Kita and Cay have to compete against Zach and Alana And they pull these balls out of a little hopper and the balls have like kiss lick. G Stock And maybe something else And we are told by Inter Lable. Nebel these head to head nibble contests are going to be judged on Hotness, sexiness and something And there are these two like light up neon thermometers with hearts on the top. and you're watching the temperature rise and who's going to win cost ofvers This was a mess to me The thermometers are really annoying. Like to be like, oh, it's producers. I mean Make it actually live. Let us vote, you know sureure That' interesting. It's not an objective measure of hotness It's not an objective measure of anything and clearly the it's a measure of storyline We were talking about this in our in our patreon. It's very much like the on Bachelor when they would do the lie detector tests and it's clear the producers are just like throwing the buttons to piss whoever off Yeah, you know, It's targeted who's winning these little things. And then by the way The full victory is meaningless. The winning team gets nothing, doesnesn't even matter if you win or lose, who cares? It's designed. Sometimes they get a party But what the whole fucking show is a party twenty four seven. Like it doesn't mean here they don't make the other team like go to bed without their dinner or something, you know. I do I do think they should add steaks. They I mean, this challenge, I love this challenge because it usually they do it earlier, which I feel like is good because it's They break the touch barrier. You can amp up the relationships after this. Um and like more willing to share a bed with a stranger kind of thing Uh They don't usually do the pairing up the couples, which I guess was just like an attempt to amp up the stakes, but There aren't really staks in this and it's like it feels very likeike every single person did the same thing for each one except for some horrific things we saw. Yeah, the to the toe work was off the charts by Bryce, but the idea of this is to, like you're saying, further piss off or make jealous the other half of these couples, but they've already done something in the initial phase of CSA where they let the women see the TV screen and see the guysy's behaviors This is like maybe one percent of that in terms of effectiveness So it's like, why even do it? You have these these weird Uh light up thermometer things and that's supposed to be like, oh my God, what's he doing? He's really. You got a look on someone else. What? It just doesn't work. It was a big swing and a miss. and what does work is the true blood scene that they always do at the end now where it's a group. group sexiness rating and that is always good Yeah, I guess, it just doesn't It's meaningless. It's like none of them are actually into any of it. It was everything Are you getting into some nihism now I'm just saying There's no challenges with stakes on love Isols No, I know, but I'm saying they have kind of invalidated that entire challenge that they did tonight by how they opened Casa And I think the opening of Casa was like brilliant. That's one of the best things I've seen in the show ever to have the women watch that the screen of the guys behaving badly. But like, okay you have to now elevate each new thing you present to try and like force that outcome. has to be at least that good, if not better. And this was like way in the opposite direction It had no effect on any of the couples whatsoever No. I mean, other than the like getting people slightly more used to making out with the strangers. Our other important thing, we kind of talked about this already, but Alana wanted to casa more girls Um it It emerged that she used a racial slur And the fourth audience found it and she hasn't been removed from the show yet Nor has the show addressed it in any capacity? I assume that will happen on Thursday next episod just be gone. And maybe they'll say she left the villa probablyrobably won't. My assumption is they will just ignore this like they did Vana Like they didn't answer. They have set the precedent though that they are removing anyone who This material comes up and so they got to keep removing them They are not removing anyone who is pictured standing in front of Trump flags who is Kenzie That picture also emerged this week I don't think they're going to do anything about that U But it should be known by anyone watching this show. They didn't do about Austin Exactly. That's just that's just political views. No big deal No big deal Did you write this one? St don't Meghgan the stallion moment and we are past the part in the season when they brought her in last year. That is true Last year she came in episode fifteen and I thinkk that becauseuse I don't think they're going to have one Why I don't know. They spent too much money on that TV That was it. I don't know why, but I for me last season, that Mean the Stallion episode was like one of the greatest episodes of television ever made. Yeah. It conveyed so many things perfectly. It was like a huge celebrity It's also strangely spwn conon, but I like was fine with it. She was there to sell her swimsuit line. Great. She came into that. the women's dressing room and knew every one of the players already knew the situations they were in was able to have like in depth kind of detailed conversations about this guy or that guy and blah blah blah, became their friend The closest we've gotten this season is that soccer guy. I don't even know if the players could see him. Exactly. So I don't Yeah I don't get it, especially because the show is only getting bigger and bigger in the ratings. I' having like celebrity fans of it. You watch them try to do it in Survivor of the this season with a Billy Elish Boomerang idol and the pro Trump Zach Brown band spear hunting with a giant spear bazooka You saw them attempt to do it there. It didn't work in my opinion. M of the at least most of the shit I saw online was like what Zach Brown has more fucking screen time than the players. What is going? Billy Elish wasn't even there. Didn't even know about it. didnidn't care. the complete opposite of the Meghgan theallion. Yeah, exactly. And I just think like that it serves the show so well to have like a huge celebrity come in and really not only love the show, but treat the players with respect and admiration aw to some degree. It elevates everything. Yeah, I would love to see them do that again, but Um we've given out some of our awds. Do we have any others? Oh, creature Brace's third reference to his turtle tongue was my creature of the Dump. Is T is TT It's turtle tgue. and Kenzie even referenced it again with whoever she was making out with in this past episode. She's like, I well at least he didn't have a turtle tue It's the most famous creature on the season so far My creature of the Week was the butterfly that served as a sign for Omora to lean in heavy with sincere And of course, this was Kelsey Anderson's mother You't realize likes little island Now Ger pee. U because of her inventing some of my favorite quotes from the show, including French fries, including Rise and Pussy, including I've never seen a white dick before. including her conversation where she said it's harder for darker women including But Booming strategy where she goes and explores Coreory, goes to the photo booth, but still missing price, making them the only real a couple. Trinity was my MVP She was a close second to me, mayaybe even tied with my MVP. I think she I think Trinity played like a lights out game especially the most recent episode we just watched, but this entire time really she's been fantastic really elevating her level of play. but that said because of those goddamn angry splits Kenzie was my MVP. She has in my opinion emodied the identity of the season in that move. Yeah She's got a lot of other funny little plays and good plays here. It seems like she's really pissed at Corbin and they're not going to get back together. So I'm curious to see how she'll play that when she comes back But she think amazing television. I too. But like where Trinity has set herself up to be basically like, She is into Bryice. She has said that. He said she's into her or he's into her We know that they're going to come back and be okay Yeah and that's going to be great and it's going to be loveovey Dovey and we'll all root for them We are also though, at least I am way more interested in what the fuck is Kenzy going to do when Corbyin comes back. We saw what she did to Zach like on the second day or whatever when he picks somebody else. She wouldn't fucking talk to him. She still I'm not talking to him. She still has not talked to him since that conversation. Exactly. So and they French friesed Oh my God, I forgot about that Yeah Ding, French frine Yeah, that is going to be. I mean, she's just She has a talent and that is the gift of the season. So far We'll see what happens. You're right. There is still time, but that was a that was tough not giving her to MVP for me as well this year because I mean, what a beautiful thing. I feel like she's been kind of bubbling up a little bit. The greatness is like it was there in that intro And then she just kind of was like playing a safe game but this drop this past week She really has elevated, she has she started to deliver on the promise of that intro, I feel like. Oh, that's such a good way of putting it. Yeah C That's our awwards. That's the awards. That's the breakdown I will have out this is coming out on a Wednesday So I will also have out if you check our Game of Roses Instagram page or Bachelor Cloth's Instagram page, I'll have add a little data visualization of all of the Instagram followers from the beginning of the season to now. if you want to check that thing out and Of course, watch along every episode of Lo Violland with us on our Patreon patreon. com slash Game of Roses And we are I will probably have out the Reelhouse as a Rhode Island reunion on Wednesday. I watch that too. And do you want to do like a little special episode where you may talk about it, Rary We promise we should, yeah. All right, we'll figure. I have a lot of questions for you. Okay And I'll be asking the right ones will. God. yeah, I will do I will do the reunions though. Actually, do you want to record the reunion with me Have you watched either of them? Now Oh, I haven't rea either of them I'm too ex expired There's two reunions, right Is there part one and two Am I crazy? I thought only part one has come out Oh maybe I don't know But I'll do that sure Okay, maybe it'll be a cosic warar All right, praise be. Wait. You're not gonna to ask me what I'm doing What do you mean? You're not going to ask me what I'm doing What you're doing? Yeah What do you mean You're not going to say, what are you doing to me What are you doing? Mic and chocolate, of course I knew it was the same tone as your fucking voicemail that I hate G to be done You fucker. How dare you insult my boy like this, my beautiful boy Thank you. That was a pleasure. God damnit. Please rate this podcast Please review this podcast. 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