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Oh my go This is bachelor clothes The face that you surprise me with for every episode is such a delight. I surprise myself. you see We are in a week right now where so much weird shit is happening. We're going to get to it in the news. You don't even know Are we going to get Taylor Frankie Pauls season? is happening? You dare Get my hopes up again, clues. I refuse Get your hopes up. I'm not the one getting the hopes up I'm simply being affected by the people getting my hopes up Easy Your hopes are up, you're saying I won't say they're h but they're not down. My hopes are somewhere in the middle My opes are sideways. They're not up or down, but they're there We'll get to it It's going to be a dinations. We we also have to talk a little bit about Rar Rar he, Rori watching it Clues. I need good news right now I'll say this. U seeing actually Ii Ketti and Jaredi Kenetti back on our television screens doing what they do.. God, it is good Um I could watch a whole show of just them at Audrey's and like the little trials and tribulations of their relationship as they're managing this small business. it's the plot of Audrey's is so good. Yeah. And I'm seure. So the u What episode are you on? I just completed four Okay, what happened in that one I don't know, Three of them are cheating on their husbands or accusing each other of cheating on their husbands or something. They like everybody's cheating on everybody. And then there's Ashley and Jared that he's like, I'm working too hard and she's like, I know you need to come back babies. Oh J just wait. I can't we should probably do a check in about this every once in a while because I can't wait to hear your reactions. We talked about it a little bit before this. and Cluse was like, I can't tell anyone apart. I'm like literally the first episode. I had no idea who any of them were. Yeah. And I read a thread that was like, And now these are all my best friends. I can't believe I couldn't recognize them on episode one. Yeah, they're all very similar in like not only how they look, but their tone of delivery, their accents, like they're all very similar people. and you're just like, wait a minute. and these accents are wild. Most of the storyline S wall. Yeah. I gotta go down at a sea wall. I thought going down at a sea wall was gonna make everybody understand me and Dino were just friends. close friends, sure, but just friends. Anyways, Qeen Lers the it' it's not only that they have similar looks. sounds, lifeifestle, they all live in giant mansions. I can't tell a mansion apart from the other mansion They also have similar storylines. It's like all of them are either the target of or the accuser of a cheating scandal And in some cases both. In some cases, they are both the person being accused of cheating and the person accusing someone else of cheating. And it's all the same like my husband is some kind of business person who like is away for half of the year. So I gott to have my fun too. They're all doing this again The exact know, but that's also u Kelsey is that way. She lives in that giant mansion in an open relationship or whatever O course. Yeah. W. Wh is your favorite character so far? Ashy. Kenn. , who's your second Jred Hibbon Dawson whoever the other kid is Dam justice for other kids You know, Rula's pretty interesting. I like her. Yes, Rula. Yeah, she's pretty funny herer facetime work is Unpeackable I'm so excited for you to get to certain moments. There's a bigig Audrey's moment. Oh, nice And I know there's a Fidalo Eyes wide shut party coming up. I've seen the teasers for that. Actually ey mask is going to be on my death bed montage I love I got to the part where they did the stududio fifty four. party And I thought actually I Can's outfit and her hair was fantastic. V Domery I he the out I hold up in fucking jeans Jared and Ashley are on a completely different show than everyone else in the cast. and it's amazing. And sometimes there's an overlap where Ashley I comes in and she's like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. She seems like how I would be if I was in the middle of that show just like there the first I think it was the first episode, they have like a little thing where they all go to a cafe or something and kind of like embrace Ashley I for the first time, and like, oh, this is my friend. She's gonna be part of my friend group. And all these women are clking like, but she's on the fucking show. She's a character in the show. Let's see if she can hang. She sits down and at least per the editing. immmediately, somebody's like, I know you're cheating on your husband. And Ashley I inys face what the fuck is going on. I was so fucking funny. Anyways, let's grow it. watchatching that, we also need to discuss numbers of Love Island before we jump into our main meat of our episode here We always obviously like to look at social media movements to kind of gauge, what is the fourth audience thinking about this season? Does anyone care enough to follow along with these people? The answer here in L Island, USA season eight is yes, they do Right now, this is just kind of our breakdown of the top five and like the biggest movements of stuff. The biggest day today, we're recording this on june eleventh S Thursday. Rfail refail, Rifle. Seawn the rifle. I don't know how to say it. Seaan has crossed the first player to do so. the one million total follower mark This is across both his TikTok and his Instagram. He has been adding one hundred thousand followers on TikTok per day, pretty much over. yesterday, he added one hundred and forty five K, a twenty point three percent increase in growth. And he picked up another eleven K on Instagram for a combined one hundred fifty six K followers on Instagram and his TikTok following is now at eight hundred sixty two thousand Have we ever seen anything like this? Yeah, that guy last season that J Jayalen Yeahah. he got over a million Instagram, I think in one day. He was only on the show for one episode So the answer yes. Wait, no, he was on for multiple episodes wasn two He went on the date with Alandria. It was just like one or two He had never traveled. Yeah. He had a great poorumkin story Never gone to a concert also is a great play. I've been thinking about that one. I know what B boom Billy boom be Billy Irish. Yeah. Irish Bom. I can't speak at all. Who's my shter Taylor Sith. I guess I would have to start with that if I'm gonna break my concert herry. I think Billy Eilish should come in a helicopter and boomerang him out of there to one ofver concerts. Sewn Rifel sits at our top five chart here. Total gain, one hundred and fifty six K. That's across both TikTok and Instagram. He's got one hundred fifty five Instagram, eight sixty two TikTok. seconde place is Caleb, if you can believe it in terms of gains. sixty total gain. That's eleven K on Instagram, fifty six on TikTok What's that? Debut bump He's at one hundred and forty three K TikTok followers fifty nine K on Instagram. These are all rounded, of course. Kenzie is in third place with a thirty three K total gain. That's plus nine K on Instagram And plus twenty four K TikTok. She's now sitting at one hundred sixty K. Instagram one hundred and forty three TikTok in fourth place, we got soul. comoming in Sl Maya twenty four K Instagram twelve K gain on TikTok That is plus eleven K total. She's at forty one K Instagram. fifty K TikTok. And we've got Melanie Moreinna in fifth place with a twenty two K total gain across everything. She does not have a TikTok, so that's all Instagram and she's at one hundred and forty four K total on Instagram Um Cluse, how you feel seeing these numbers We're in episode seven or something C Llick We haven't seen these numbers in Bachelor in so long I mean we haven't even seen Bachelor in so long that it's just like for me, it's uplifting Absolutely, but they do this every season seven and eight have all pretty much done this This might be like a slight incremental increase from last year in terms of the speed of like what Seaan is doing, especially for somebody who just got kicked off But I think we're going to see just like last year, multiple players by the end of the season, over a million on any given single platform. I don't know what the cumulative is going to be for any of these players, but I'm guessing over two to three million you know, we were wondering whether the engagement would go down with all the new rules for the islanders posting and not being able to have someone who is handling their account To me, this proves doesn't matter. they don't even need to be posting I know and it may Well, we'll get to that in the news a little bit as well. But it may It may be a new model moving forward. It's like what is it? Edging You're edging the fourth audience by like when are they going to get their phones back and get to post? Oh my God. And then so you're seeing this initial kind of like ramp up during the course of the season, gaining followers, gaining followers, gain followers. Then that week they get their phone back, whatever those first posts are going to be is going to be explosive through the roof. It's literally, I think the Love Island app has a lot to do with it. It's like you're voting. you're voting with your follows. like I feel like The voting aspect of the game makes it more peoplee are encouraged to follow them on Instagram Totally By the way, did you get in the vot Oh yeah Iust of my vill. I went with Jen to go with Corbyin Okay. I already know ours are going to be different. I went with Caleb to go with Kenzie and Soul to go with, of course. My name sank sincere Sincerely sincere. That's right U We were a little bit different Here you go. I'll reveal it Oh shit. I didn't realize we had to wait for the reveal. Okay. No, I got it All right I said Okay, so In my mind, I was thinking I just wanted to protect certain people from being eliminated. Yeah. Wh should then couple up with Zach? You should sol a couple ups. Cortion Who should Caleb couple up with Kenzy Okay, so we agreed Ken Mack Kenzie save Melanie for me So wait a minute though, you're saying Jens should come up with Zach. Did they even talk? Not that we saw it. Okay. And Corbin with Soul, Corbin told Kenzie to her face, I'm not into Soul or Jen. Not yet. Okay. We all get a vote democracy trying to get you to do one vote sincerely Yeah, I guess, but like It works. I want the things that the edit wants. I want the same thing. They want the Hota Jeremiah. Yeah. Oh they'll probably use the fucking doors again They're trying to get Melanie out do a batchort squad. Well, we'll see. But now, pace case correct me if I'm wrong, you have a very special interv Game of Roses Da for the game Welcome back to the pit. Justine K. suuper podcaster package deal, wickedly talented from two Back Rirls One Res. Oh my gosh, thank you, Lizzie for having me back again J did just reid the intro with me because she is such a sweet person We got youre the best b U I don't know when the last time that we had you on was. I don't even know what time and space are right now, but a lot has happened that we need to discuss First of all, you had a baby Congratulations. Thank you Thank you. you as well. How's that going It's going so much better every day. I feel like that's over Month gets easier every like E the stages that are hard. I get over them faster Like it's just those first twelve weeks were so Absolutely got awful Really, oh God. I hated the first twelve weeks. And then once once I it goes like this roller coaster, every week is different. Yes, yes, yes But it's like amazing. Like I woke up today and I was like, what would I do if I didn't have my baby that'd be crazy. And I didn't have ever her eight months ago. likeike what I know I don't even remember like being pregnant now That's how they get you And Natasha had a baby, it looks like pregnancy packs do work I don't know why people say they don't Emma, about thatab? I know It's very exciting. Yeah no, I love it. I am, you know Learning, leararning on the job. Yes. That's exactly. Yes. I never spent much time with babies before and like they're literally angels Like what the hell? Oh, yeah. I mean, especially we're just having our first ones and they always say the first ones are the best ones Well, I'm a first child, so yes, they are. Yeah, same They always say that Mhm. That's all I'm herearing Um Qestion I just watched This real, to me, this is breaking news, Michelle Obama and Jessica Williams and Craig Robinson talking about reality TV They are on U Michelle Obama, No, what's their podcast called? Yeah. Michelle Obama I amMo with Michelle Obana by Robinson She's basically like societally, we decide like what is entertainment entertainment is good or worthwhile, but like reality TV is sociology. It's very female. And like men decided that the ball sports were important basically. Yeah I just like guessed when I watched it. I just it made me feel great Yeah. I mean, I think it should. I think she should just become a recap podcaster at this point I don't know what Cl is doing. I don't know what he's watching. I don't really, not really that interested, but he seems like a nice man Michelle doing Brava recaps, I'm in it. hundred percent, I love it. Like I didn't know I could get this content and I'm so excited Are you watching Love Isiolland Why am I watching Love Island? Oh my God, of Or you're like not watching, inhaling, living. No, neverever. touching grass, please. No, never I am here every single night at night ready to wash. Yeah How are you feeling about it so far? Okay I'm loving that everybody's real regular Re Reular. I mean mean regular in aura, right? Not regular in appearance. These are very beautiful people Yeah I wasm like, wait, what? Yeah. Yeah. but I moved to New York City in there presentation of themselves and their presentation of their personalities, they are normal people. Huda Ace, Shelley Even Eandria was like a very extreme version of what those people actually are Be they were all content creators before they got there They know what to do when the camera's on. You know what I mean? Right. they did The only person with over one hundred K was Brace. Yeah I mean, they're all such professionals at this point. I just love it. I love it. U I'm literally like, I'm gonna start UK as soon as I catch up on my summer house I wantan to start UK so bad. I'm watching the clips and they look good. and everybody who I text to come on to guest host is like, Ohh no, I'm watching UK. shouldhould I watch US? Oh sh. They had really bad ratings versus the US. so God I saw a great clip of someone. I was like, oh God, I gotta watch that. I mean Always watched all UK, Australia, US.. I even tried like Spain once. The production value is not the same. Yeah Some rituals start with a candle others with a deep breath. 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That's revolve d. com slash roses You can shop our faves and get fifteen percent off your first order offer available for a limited time, so don't miss out This is not the real reason we're here today foday we are here for our summer House syymposium Well, it's not over Well I was tricked once again We watched Summerhouse reunion Part three last night And it looks like there is going to be another special Summerhouse afterftermath Mm Mm I didn't see that comy me. I thought they would have squished it into the last parts of Like how marvel does the clipose at the end of the credits? Like I thought they would have done something like that I'm so happy This is not ending. I'm so happy forre in the city God. Also I only got to season eight on my binge including first two seasons to Winter house so I still have one winter house eight nine Um Oh my Godd, I'm so in it So you're at the beginning of West and Sierra. West literally just shot his first scene that I watched He was like, I'm gonna catch up. He literally just entered the program Dam. Okay, when did you start watching I started watching Season eight M because therelevant seasons, probably. Yeah, yeah. And I was also pregnant at the time And no, it was Carl Lindsy. It was Carl Lindsy breakup That's when I started watching M, mayaybe seven, M seven seven Um, yeah And I was like hooked instantly. I was like, this cast, this is like watching the real world but theirre friends from a long time. Like this is such a great show. So I went back and watched her season five. Yeah, the c it Y five I just I couldidn't start at one. That was to intimidate a y. And I feel like a lot of the characters in one, two and three I didn't really need to know about But There were some that I had forgotten about And some that I was like I would have liked to see more from these people Yeah Jules, Nordan. I mean, there's been a lot Um, I completely forgot about o, she's only in season one. E, Christina. And I don't know exactly they had like some break between season two and three where the cast had a standoff and only half of them Would you something like that. So like Kyle's friend group one There's a lot What are your general thoughts on the three part reunion M mhm I feel like while it was absolutely fantastic television, I do agree with Lindseay at the very end of episode three. I didn't learn anything. No. But it's the journey along the way. you know what I mean? I realized that, I was like, she's exactly right. We didn't get a lot of new information. I thought it was one of the best reunions I've ever seen in my life. Oh yeah I loved it. I mean and apparently Andy says there was a lot that wasn't shown Oh my go, the uncensored version on Pacock Have you watched it? No. It ties up so much of thisuff like Jessie sobbing, crying, sobbing I have like read a few notes about what is in it Yeah. I was like shocked to me. He was am. Yeah. I was like, whyy is he crying like this? I was like, he met with Paige. He orchestrated this. Paiage is his new agent. like, I'm sorred of this. He just wants people to go to his stupid tour. And then I watched the uncensored version. I was like, o, he's crying because this happened to him And he can't believe that his best friend did this It's such U powerful play like The joke has been Carl's mess, but Jesse was His face was covered, was wet the whole time. I was like, oh my God, this sweet man. so empathetic Mm Mmhm. Do you think that West and Amanda being physically present felt like taking accountability. And what do you think their prep process for this was? Yo, I want one. so bad. Whatever there's was, I want one. I have only been on something that strong that those people were on one time. I was on Ven when I was giving birth. Oh my God. I mean that too. that was iconicother But I was on value And I remember I was trying to get something from a buffet and I like couldn't work even the tongs. Like it was like just too much for me and I just like put it down. And then I was watching Bob's Burgers and I was like, this plotline is way too much for me. And I just had to go tolic. too much And that fine. It' great. That level of like zoned out relaxation, not caring can't even imagine what they got prescribed getet to the level where you're wearing a wrinkled linen suit Chelsea boots and you didn't shower before you got there Not the clothes. Oh my god, I didn't even notice, well, his clothes I did notice the innocent butter yellow and of course The ban I heard around the world. Yeah the fuck ass bun. Do you think that they got besides the drug prep Clearly there's something going on M they had strategy going into this, like some PR person who's like do this. You know what? I think a lot of this is actually wrapped up with whatever video was threatened to be surfaced Yeah. And they couldn't really talk about that. And they was kind of like the elephant in the room. Yeah. But I do think When they spoke at the same time, You could tell that that was strategic. They said it before they got there And then there was moments where Amanda was shocked, like when he said that Miha was his girlfriend Dude. Miha making it in this made me so happy. I was like. And she's in Faceetime in this and then it looks like perhaps in person in aftermath. Oh yeah. o yeah. And some season eleven like without a doubt, I would say Who is the cast in Summerhouse season eleven Honestly Ideally, and I think I saw that you My dream is Sierra visiting same with Lindsey, right? Like every other weekend, there's a Mia I don't know about KJ. I'm seeing videos of KJ. He looks unstable. So I don't know I adore him. so I just wanted to throwJ. I know. He's such a sweet man also. Yeah, yeah. and he looked so good at the re. I saw him during his conversation at that one dinner W So like where he talks about losing his siblings He's been through a lot And's a gentle man, you know. So gentle and sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Don't know on KJ, who else? Jesse Solomon. Iia, Jesse Um Uh Dara Uh, who else? Uh deffinitely Ba for sure because Bailey Lee Vandara got beef and I need to know more about this Levi, who's Levi? R? I loved the thad that was like Levi is Bailey's imaginary friend. Can anyone else see her? Oh my God, the fookirl So sweet I would throw in West and honestly, I would interest man in the show. I actually would enjoy that quite a bit. I do not want to see Kyle and Carl being over forty years old doing three Hyys some summer. I don't want to see, Lizzy. I gott to say Something I have gained from my binge watchatch is an appreciation for the parties in the earlier seasons. I think they were better because they were more like people these people actually know, notot like a hundred Bravo fans like brought in that are all women. I'm like, what is going on? This is like a convention It reminds me of when I went to I went to Sir for see you next Tuesday when James Kennedy was DJing once and it was all women. It was like a human zoo situation. Yeah. rem that. The Sir Tom Tom Sorryhuh Yp. I mean As one should, what a beautiful beautiful show. And it gave us summer house D Yeah You gott to at least watch the first episode Kyle hits on Stusi Oo. And Amanda is the three AM Yeah call By call It's it's a wild, wild beginning Aually, she's never left that spot, has she really Okay Mia I'm just saying she's always been the three I Budd at dam Dam in Yeah, it's It's funny because some people are like, oh, this is ruining summer House. Like it used to be a fun show. And I'm like, the season you're talking about, Carl and Lindsey That season is dark as fuck. Watching them break up. Watching them break up, Carl's brother died in COVID. I almost didn't watch that season. I skipped that episode because I was like, I remember just sobbing watching it. Yeah, it was really, really bad Um Yeah, the season was O and C's whole relationship And then ye' like Darkest fuck. Yeah ye Oh Yeah So But it's like Bichelle Obama sayss sociology. Oh my God, I'm so happy I could say that. Sierra performance of a lifetime. I L And she's coming back on threads about the beta blockers. She's leaving no stone unturned. I love it. The are I' a dirt line. shows my favorite from her actually was when they were getting up for the pee break and someone was like, do they just not care? I don't understand these people. I don't understand you, Wes. I don't understand you, Amanda. She just gets up and she was like, I think he's just a psychopath and walks by. I was like, yes. We got a socio past Allegation. But just her walking back incredible. Such apathy of like he's actually he'll just he doesn't give a fuck actually and just walking by him was everything to me Y It was so good. And she just doesn't care. Like Mhm because unless maybe they had your powerful valumue. like At least the performance we saw the edit and look I I try to not morally judge any of the people on the reality shows that I'm watching. I'm like I don't know these people. I'm just seeing edits How dare they How dare they I didn't believe it at first you didn't believe what? The West Amanda L lovers either, but then the breadcrumbing started and I was like, oh, wait. I put a poll on Instagram. I was like, wait, is this real fifty percent of the people said yes. And then my friend responded to me and she said, yes, it's real. I was like It's such an emergency. like Lizie. Kyle and Amanda posted their breakup announcement I called Natasha immediately. I was in the grocery store, walking my l This supposed to be my life. L my life. Living my life. my mom little alone time. I saidasa I am so glad you also remember where you were. That was wonderful. Oh yeah. It is an emergency. It's like you know, unlike a housewife show or something where they You get the sense that they're mostly showing up to film together. Like these people all live with each other. They're actually friends in real life. likeike it's wild Some rituals start with a candle others with a deep breath. This one starts when the air shifts The sense of calm collection from the Pura Calm partartnership three fragrances designed with sensory science to ground your space and quiet your mind Sleep story, a lavender drift into deep restast Breathe bubble A mindful reset wrapped in white tee and cashmere soundscape. fresh clearing rush that restores your energy Ground your space, quuiet your mind. Explore the sense of calm collollection at pura d. com slash calm U Jesse posted in a carousel his timeline that he has put together. as the last image What do we think about this timeline? What do you think is the real timeline? Oh my Oh I don't know if we'll ever know the real timeline. Yeah becausecause these two people are the only thing they're committed to is lying. Amanda, West that's not committed to each other at all. They're not committed to but they are committed to lies. Jesie, doing that that timeline not only on his carousel, but also on watch what happappens Live Oh my god I haven't watched yet. Wait was that with Rachel Lcy? Yes, it was. Yeah. I have to watch on. Oh yeah, definitely. But Andy's read the whole timeline out loud Oh my go. Yes No that I gave it. Well, I won't spoil the rest of this episode. I put it in our top plays Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. It was really, really good. And the Amanda West went to dinner period without me period. for me was the line of the post without the Like, I need that on a t shirt. My friend and I were actually discussing like buying merch. and I'm like, I gotta stop buying merch Yeah like Lver boy will be fine, Liz. I know. We're also concerned that this man is like drowning in poverty. Meanwhile, he's on the cover of People magazine I think he's driving a different car every season. I don't have any facts, but. He That is the greatest love that I have seen him have Definitely. Yeah. We have Amanda and West in their separate green room She's hiding under a blanket. Just a head popping out. I know. And the blanket company already denied. I forget these really popular weighted blankets, these It's a weighted blanket Yeah. And this really popular weighted blanket company was like, confirm, not us. No, we would never What a play I love that. Even wayited blameade companies have spoken out. Jesus Christ I It feels good to it in a fandom where something like this happens. and the only other thing I can think of is you know, Sandaval as a Vndor pp rules Lver. Oh, def Failing was also But I fell here, just like, are you kidding? Yeah.. And should I be shocked by these people? No. But I was. Tom and Ariana, like The pool That's the golden nugget? I should have eat it c me F of all Oh my gosh. I Does it really drive you nuts? This is what Minatash said on our episode. It really drives us nuts that these two Men who are so so incredibly regular are at the center of these massive scandals with these gorgeous women. I think it's so bizarre. You know As Michelle Obama says, a reflection of our society Back onto us. Yes Yes, Sara This man L I don' Yeah, it's wild. I mean, It's it's a theme on the on the Bravo shows, I would say evenven from Southern hospitality Oh my god She's a ten That's a ten Well let me tell y you I can't believe that that factored into it. I don't know a single person other than me that watches Southern Hospitality. I love to hear this. I'm a little behind. That's like probably my most embarrassing watch probably. Oh yeah. Yeah, because that's a pretty neat one It's Nice I love it. Yeah. Oh my God, Maddie on season one, I was like, what is happening I mean, not Maddie. Who's the Christian one? Oh, I don't know. I haveve seen clips of this reunion and I watched her performance on Watch What Happens Live. The one who got the DUI What Never mind. We uh We must get to the Mhia conversation as well. essentially this woman who's not here to confirm or deny or defend any of this except via a Facetime call backstage brought up as thinking that West is her boyfriend and they're exclusive And I read online she was secretly building his furniture Um this whole time And he says, oh, yeah, she might have thought we were exclusive Lizzy, the fact that she was building the furniture The building the furniture really kills me. It's like So much labor. It's just so it's like the same as when I see Um Girl Brittneany. on here paying the boyfriend to come takeake care of her She got three hundred sixty lipo or whatever the fuck she got done to her body wit Is this on Valley? Valley Yeah the valley I a couple of episodes behard. Som I'm seeing it on It's like all over TikTok and I'm really interested in the valley this season because of how they're showing postpartum Oh my god, I know. It's like really well done. Like out they're showing it, I think honestly. I mean That show It has impacted me definitely. and I just I don't know if I would have like I would still have empathy, but not quite the same empathy that I have for the Danny and Mia situation. I'm like Four children I don't even understand how someone does too at this point. How Either man. God, Oh my God. F four just so he could say that No a ts of wild. That's so crazy. But this is my brother though my brother has three under three And it's like crazy in there all the time Yeah, I imagine at a certain point it's just like,h Yeah. there they go. Yeah. Yeah. I think like after three it's just like, oh, just put just have another one You know? when he, when Danny said Oh, like where's the swaddle? She's not going down. I was just like Don't needat a sandwich Leg What do you mean? Where's this what? Just get one It's like just go find it The amount of questions that you have to answer, like even just that, right? L relating to her having that many questions to answer that are so She's the manager answered she's managers' CEO of the home, you know? Yeah And it's like so intense. But yeah, that Miha building the furniture for West just made me think like How She didn't even live in the city that he lives in. No lives in Chicago So where you mean you're building the furnters what But I hope she sells so many of those ties. I know Yes, Yes. I mean, Lindsey got one G tie. Oh Of course she did. I mean, we got to talk about Lindseay I know, I know. Oh my God, the eighties Dynasty villain of my dreams. And Darklord Andy Cohen being like, whyy are you in a revenge dress? Be she's Lindseay fucking Harbard and shes She is a force Mhm. Mm She'll just always be hired. I see why she has that apartment. That has to be tens of thousands of dollars a month. I see my God. I see it. She works her time It's so nice I was amazed by her ability to evenven though she wasn't there every weekend, still come in and drive story. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking mixing it up. She causs that fight with us.l. I mean. That's a professional Um, I'm amazed and the way that she kind of takes the reins from Dark Laurord Andy Cohen and just like goes after them. was a It was thing to watch, a thing to behold. Yes, yes. And I would say I'm so happy they left all of it, not all of it, obviously, but they left that part in Because that's how I felt as a viewer It's something that I Like I know they've talked about like, oh, we didn't get to talk about anything else, but I'm like, I'm watching in the city. I'm like, the other storylines Girl. I can't. I'm like This one storyline is so fascinating that it's like it just dwarfs everything else. The only other thing I really wanted to get into was Bailey Dara and Levi's beef. I know what is this? I don't know about this. Oh, you don't? No irl They were all up everywhere, everyvery press interview. You know that virtual reality T podcast that they have at H six and Bravo Serious or whatever. Okay.. So it's like the official Bravo podcast or whatever the people before it. They both went on there and said that Dara was only here for fame that she was only with KJ for a stage relationship Oh my Godd. Oh yeah, they were at here Air and her ass out. Meanwhile, Dara's been famous, right? which I think we went over on. Oh yeah. large of makeup. Yeah, yeah. she's like, especially in the New York area, you see her quite often if you are like into the hair beauty makeup space So this is a current The ribery is still going on. I mean As of a few months ago when they were doing press for the finale That is what I heard out of Levi and Bailey. Dara is a fame seeking Like she's not here for the right reasons type thing Dara did I think a beauty this season as well. Sure did She got into that relationship on camera, the same way that Amanda got ono the show And u yeep I mean, We didn't see Levi. We saw way more of Dara I know Yeah. And don't you notice from your rewatch That's a competition. Every season, someones scrapped Oh my God. it's like The rotation is pretty wild and I'm like There's some of these people I want back. Yeah. Bring them back Yeah. My probably unpopular opinion is Jordan. W for him to be brought back. There is a stined character. Yes. The one who went out with Erica Kirk and she said, this is just friendship And he said, but what about How we're really religious And what about time I lost my virginity on a bunk bed and kicked her What Wait, o, was he before your time? Yeah. Oh no. I just sa the summer house backy apart and I was like, o I'm in. Some successful fame seekers here. Yeah. Yes she tried for Yeah the turnurn is wild. Yeah Um on the show anday Th think it will continue I'm like Vanderprump just fully replaced when everyone like Lft, sir Eventually they replaced him What do you think is going to happen to Vveorone Ples Did you watch the new season or the new character? So I tried because my good Good, good, Judy was on there and they were scouting her like heavy. heavy to be a part of the show Really like flying out. She went to watch her happens live one night like and she is a baddie. She's a ten out of mother fuck at ten. okay. What She's from Staten Island Yeah And she has like a really big job and they wanted to fly her out and cast her in this show where she would be a hostess at fucking or whatever. And she was like, I can't make that like I can't do this. That's just that's so work sabbatical C me out. Eaternity leave, whatever it takes And you go host, you go host these tables. Yeah Yeah. book I tles girl. thought I did not want to like it and I really enjoyed it. Oh really? Some of the cast was really good. ye. Okay for what it's worth. Anything else from this reunion, Kylemand a hug Oh scary You know what I would like to talk about that we talked about on our show, but I just want to say it is Kyo. constantly infantilizing Amanda. was really one of the lowest points of the reunion for me. Insane Isn't it crazy I mean she's thirty five Grown, right Gg Well, there's some things on this that I have learned such as She doesn't handle her finances. herer dad. Yeah, her dad does her taxes. I want to send my taxes there. Ces I also can't do them, right? But they get know A lot of interesting interesting stuff going on there. Yeah ye. And I am very familiar with the town she's from In New Jersey? Yep, V, very, very familiar with this town in from there She fits it to a tee to like I can I already know, I know this woman. I know this girl. I know this woman. I know this woman. And this woman will constantly be victimized forever and ever and ever. There were so many moments where she was like There was a moment, Natasha pointed out where Andy asked, was there a moment for you that really stood out where you said, o my God, I have feelings for Wes. And she said, No, I think just when he brought it up, it flooded out And Natasha was like, it's still not your fault Like West confess to you And then year And she's not a cheater. It's not a ch. but She knew about mea What's going on there It follow her questions. I know, I know. I don't know what she knew about me. I was very confusing And Jesse Solomon, I guess didn't know. I thought maybe he did at the beginning, but now I think no. No. I don't think he knew there No. Judging by I pulled up I put a picture of the last slide of his post where he says the timeline on our document. and Chad was like, what is this? It's like a manifesto. It's like you don't understand. You could never. Um Are you watching in the city? I'm not Yeah G for you. Yeah, I just like I can't do the storylines. Love Island's on at nine Yeah You know, I justirment is a full time job. Yeah, itself. Yeah. Well, Justine, thank you so much for talking to me about all of this, getting into some of my deepest watches that I don't talk about with anyone except self I was gonna say your baby. ' that's what daning raothers all the time. Oh, sometimes allll, yeah. but it's hard to tell what he's understanding. No, yeah. I feel like probably most of it I mean nothing, obviously. Yeah Definitely He's not talking. Oh my God. U uch a pleasure checking back in with you after this beautiful surprise and I look forward to your updates when we see the aftermath. Yes, next week I can't wait, Thankk you so much. And Shout out to everybody listening to this. Love you guys. Shout out to everybody. And Justin, where can they find more about you, Natasha, etcetera. Oh my gosh, if you want to hear not only me, screeching about this like a hyena, but also my co host Natasha Howling, right? J just dogging these people out Go to patreon. com backsash Tuross media and you will find all of our summerhouse coverage there All of our episodes for Love Island are free on the RSS feed and the full videos on our Patreon. We got YouTube content on our Patreon. We're watching Jersey Shore. We're gonna to be watching Gals Cowboys Cheerleaders We are I know. I've never seen Jersey Shore. I feel like I need to watch it. Oh my God, you know what? It's a lot of our regular everyday vernacular comes from Jersey Shore. I believe that. Yeah, they were really a standout cast. They were really I see why they're still on television twenty years later. Like they're amazing Um, But yeah, if you want to do all of that and see all that heck out two Blackirls one Rows, check out two black girls Media on Patreon Thank you so much for joining This was absolute delight. Yes. Fantastic interview Pace case. Cratulations on all your successes Now we must o move on to that portion of our program where we are discussing all the kids fit to print. This is Nation News. First up In Bachelor Nation Ns Are we going to get to see TFPs season or not? Godddamnit Clease donon't. do this de Do it to you You're doing this to me. Who's doing it to me? You're hopeless. can't look at it. You have to you're going to have to read some of this. ABC stuttled her season back in March four days before it was supposed to air when a video was released showing Paul in a drunken rage accidentally hitting one of her children in the head of a bar stool. The rumors of ABC possibly airing the season anyway have been swirling since that fateful day and they're swirling even harder after this weekend when most of TFP's men reunited in the city of Angels, Los Angeles California where they attended a doodgers game. and made a batch of second audience social media, including a few posts with Golden Bachelor playlayer and Nepo Aunti Carol Freeman moreore edging play by these social media accounts. Love Island USA with that black and white teaser This? I mean, what does this mean Is it just gonna be you get some more information an episode special or something talking about it? What is it There's some more to read here. Let's see what you think And one post lit Bachelor nation on fire Is this where we are Can you imagine that on CNS or something? They like today the United States responded to Iran's droneske is this where we are? This. Backet we'll do it live And one post lit Bach donation on fire. It included video of some of the guys from TFP season dancing around at a party But the caption read, Are you excited for season twenty two of the Bachelorette to air Who flew them to LA Who let them make all the social media who helped them make it. Why were they in LA fuck is going on? Now you're asking the right questions. Hey, I wrote that just for you. Thank you. I love a scripted joke. But still, these questions are real to me 's going on. I don't even want to I don't I told you, I don't even want to think about it. Just tell me what's going on otherwise, like I can't do this. They are all in L.A. I don't think that's them just saying like, hey, let's go to LA and start making posts and fucking be shit disturbers. I think they are brought out here by ABC for some reason Um now It could be a myriad of things. Yeah. what do you think is the most likely bull shit the cruise. they're all going on the cruise. Most likely is this in my humble, most likely is this. Three or four of those guys are in real running to be the next Bachelor and they were having final casting interviews. M The other ones are out here. So they put them at a baseball thing Well, doodger' game Yeah Carol Freeman, who's a golden Bachelor player. was Carol in it? Yeah, they made social media with her. Oh my God. That's what I'm saying, The Neppo Auntie. Um There's also possibly an announcement coming about Bachelor in Paradise And maybe they're going to be in that I just don't o. It's eararly to tease paradise. Is it June? That it would be airing in August. They'd have to start shooting it now, basically in the next couple of weeks A paradise this year. Yes Oh my God I don't I thought we weren't getting batchor product tntil January God knows. Who knows? I just can't I've done I've run the numbers I don't see how they can air her season ever. I just don't like There is no u moratorium or whatever the reverse is on that for a video like that No I don't can't unsee a video like that You know There's a lot of other stuff going on that we don't know I don't know, but that's what's happened. They were out here. They made the social media. Whos the fucking wild Up next to Bbadational News,ome Love Island News the current season of Love Island, which you can follow along with us at patreon dot com slash game of Roses is officially Peacock's number one most streamed original season debut. The season racked up eight hundred twenty four million minutes viewed in its first three days up seventy four percent from season seven while setting new mobile and social engagement records as well The strong start follows a landmark season seven, which shattered multiple streaming records and helped Peacock Nielsen streaming rankings. The show's momentum extends well beyond streaming minutes. Love Island USA delivered the largest mobile viewing share of any peacock original launch twenty three percent of viewing coming from phones and tablets. It also dominated social conversation generating more than forty three million video views on Premiere Day and ranking as the most social program across television and streaming across Instagram, Facebook, X, and YouTube Threats There're just sayin't nothing like it Um And a lot of it, in my opinion has to do with the cadence of production. It's the that feeling that like we are watching something happening basically live and that you got to be there. It's the most sport like at least in terms of its, u delivery of the media, it's the most traditional sport like of all of the dating shows hundred percent And we're seeing people at sports bars watching this Yeah, it's incredible Up next in Bachelor Nation News, a little more Love Island News. Love Island USA season eight is the first season in which friends and family have been disallowed from posting content on their respective players' social media while they are imprisoned in the villa The twenty twenty six players', Instagram and TikTok profiles are frozen in time. showcasing their final adventures and accomplishments, like Kenzie Ann Kenzie Anis graduating from nursing school before they were sequestered in May, and Instagram comments have been limited on posts preventing the public from sharing their feedback on the cast pages In past seasons, most islanders have left their accounts in the hands of family members or friends who ensured a steady stream of content while they were in the game While it's unknown why the decision was made this year to prohibit the players' home teams from posting for them, it hasn't stopped some of them from posting on their own accounts to combat rumors about players like Seaan's Mom. Obviously who now famously got into an online feud with the mayor of Sean's Homown who admonished him for leaving behind his prestigious job as a cop to compete in the biggest game in peacock history Do you think that the mayor play factored into his gains Is this a template for may mayors going forward No, it's not a template for mayors going forward That was a massive error by the mayor, but it might have because there is like That mayor shit on reality TV And by extension, Love Island itself. And so when you have an entire fourth audience who is rabid for this shit and this fucking joker's like I can't believe he's going to go on the biggest show in television instead of maintain his cop job Fuck that guy. We're giving in the follers. so he never has to go back and look your fucking face again in his lifetime I mean, the lifestyle difference of those two jobs versus influencer It's really stepping in it. The lifestyle difference between any job and influencer look I know YouTuber is the most aspired to job of the incoming generations and all that kind of stuff, but it really is like it is the rock star of this era Um its it's the at least the ideaast What's say? You're saying Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast is more like a media mogile. I wouldn't call him an influencer exactly, even though I mean, technically, I guess. but The idea I mean, at least when I was a kid growing up in the eighties, the idea of rockstar But there's even a song about a dire straight song Get your money for nothing in no chicks for free. You know that song I might need to hear a little bit more, I think We want to install microwave ovens, custom kitchen delivery. We got to move these refrigerators. We got to move these Cia TVs. I want my I want my empty. Oh yeah, that part, yeah that whole song is written from the perspective of like a blue color person watching a rock star on MTV and being like He gets his money for nothing and his chicks for free. The idea was that like Rockstar was the best, easiest job because all you do is strut your stuff. play your guitar or sing or whatever, and you make millions of dollars and have the best life. Now, I think that idea of the ease of a job is transferred onto influencer. I think most people, when they see somebody with millions of Instagram followers or whatever, they believe there is no work involved and that you are just getting a tidal wave of money for nothing one hundred percent. I think that's why we're still seeing it shit on as a job. Of course, of course And I'm not saying that it doesn't require work. Obviously it does But it ain't the same as like It ain't the same kind of work as like where you're going to a job every day and you have a boss and all that type of shit, you know Yeah It's I would I would say it's our community is safe. Yeah, it's Oh God, I'm gonna let you do this next one Which one Jesus Christ? Is this where we are now Oh my God. I was waiting for me to get to this l of mine. Up next in Bachelor Nation newews Is Nick Vial Marga Let us close. There is mountingere, whereere we go There's nothing evidence. come back to us. There's notounthing evidence that he might be. The post has recently resurfaced from Spencer Pratt. that garnered a comment from Bel himself, Pratt who came to prominence after forcing his way into the hills with Nppoaby BFF Brody Jenner, recently ran in the Los Angeles Mayoral race where he suffered a humiliating defeat, despite being backed by Donald Trump himself. Although Pratt doesn't identify as MAGA, he is a registered Republican and did not denounce Trump's support. Nor did he denounce support from Vio who commented on one of Pratt's mayoral posts, quote, Rushed in While VL hasn't publicly claimed a political identity, supporting a Republican who is openly supported by Trump leaves little room for most to rationalize that he could be anything other than Maga Have you been thinking about anything else this week? Since you read those? Yeah. I've been thinking about a few of things But this is a good one Look My instinct when I see something like that is to be like, oh I might want to run for something. I just want like reality stars to Be in charired of stuff Yeah, I'm okay, even worse in my I look. I went way too deep into this. okay. What I've read here is about one one millionth of what I That's what I was looking for. I've read other places. Here we go. So on there's this website where you can post opinions and everybody can talk. it's called Reddit I went into a very deep poole on there. Oh no. M people on Reddit. claiming that ViaO I haven't seen these clips, so I don't know this is just what I read on Reddit that Vil has like openly stated on his podcast on Bio Files that he is kind of aolitical And there it leads people down the path of like, does he even vote that type of a thing? But I think in twenty twenty six Being a political, not voting is like it's Mga Yeah That's definitely what it gives on hinge And I'm not again, this is what I read on Reddit. I don't know the actuality of it. I'm simply telling you my experience online researching this little thing. Just around the internet, seeing what's getting pushed around. Seeing what people are pushing This is wild. U Yeah As much as I loved Spencer Prat's videos where He would find a burrito somewhere that you weren't expecting it on TikTok, I really lo those This is Great for Los Angeles I don't mind Spencer Pratz influencing play, his reality play. He's a good reality player. I mean, I wrote kind of derogatorily in here that him and Bertdie Jenner forced their way into the hills, but Jesus Christ. That's like a master stroke They were calling up Paparazzi to foall. Yeah. He like was kind of the pioneer of a lot of kind of thing. He getsild the game of reality play on like a fundamental level However Once you step into a political arena, now all of that goes away and it's like, what the fuck's going on here? clearly not fit to fucking around a city or anything else Val is saying you crushed it. He said crushed it on one of his posts about running for mayor So yeah M takeake it for what you will. That's where we are with the great one T timee will tell Yeah. fininally in Bachelation News, season fourteen, Bachelor and Vienna Girardi shouter downer. Paveelka got married this week, o Lord. Pavelca came to prominence in the nation after a seventh place finish in Jillian Harris's Bachelororet at season five before being tapped as the next bachelor Pavelca proposed to his ring winner, Vienna Girardi, but things went south a few months after the after the fininal Rse and ultimately ended on TV as Pavelca demanded that Gerardi let him finish speaking which drove her to leave the set in tears as Dark Lord Chris Harrison fast in the suffering. Pelca has continued civilian life as a p. I know. An entrepreneur. I watch that probably once every two or three months though. Pvelca hass healthy You think I'm looking for health in this life? Pelca has with your grrouel. Yeah. Physical health, fine. Up here though? think yeah, I think the situation I was born into probably prohibited that from ever being a possibility. enjoy what I got. Paelca has continued civilian life as a pilot and entrepreneur in twenty twenty four. He met his now wife, Amy Cho And earlier this year, the couple announced they were officially engaged after two years of dating. The two engaged in the legally binding contract of marriage in what many are describing as an intimate California wedding at Tusk and Rose Ranch on Sunday, june seventh Congrats to Pbellan Cho and here's to hoping She doesn't interrupt him Here's to that Hhtag. The weight was their wedding DJig or whoever was running the video at it, I would play that video of him and v a Gerardity at their wedding. J? Yeah, should do that. Everybody out on the dance floor. We got a special video request from one of Pavela's buddies longtime friend As Fike, play this. Just a trip down memory lane. hereere we go Stop interrupting me I hope that they're all well Me too. Congratulations. We now have the section of our program where we discuss the top five items that were pushed across the internet to us this week. and made us go wow Number five Perfect match and Love is Bind's Jimmy Presnell AKA Jim Bow. The thirty one year old dor of Megan Fox and Gow up player apparently knows Love Island's newest bomb show twenty one year old Caleb McDaniel He posted a reel with content of the two partying and working out under the Kiron When your're homeie is the new Love Island bombshell, a highlight reel is mandatory. The caption reads, takeake it easy on the kid, heart hands emoji at Love Island USA hasashtag FYP, hashtag Love Island, hasashtag bombshell Hashtag, big dog one hundred twenty two thousand likes, two point six million views. W sh. Did't realize Big number in fourth place this week Scuttled man Richard Van Scuttled manan, Richard Vanderwater posts a video with other Scuttled men live react And I was What's up? Click the link I know clicking the link. sploding Oh, this is the video I was talking about. This is the one that says, arere you excited for season twenty two of the Bachelorette to irr and then as a picture of him, and another dude from the season kind of doing like a head dance movement. But like what is this event they're at? Everybody's dressed in white, It's out by the beach. Looks like it's probably in Malibu at a fucking mansion or something. You see that creature, that white puffy Cuffy dog right there. Where's Eabus What are they doing? What's this event? What are these people? I don't know twenty point six k likes B number U Is this Sieram Milli thing part of this or is this No, no. Okay. sorry go ahead. Our third place play goes to Love Island Aftersun's new Host Sierra Miller She called out Summerhouse' West Wilson's beta bllocker excuse via threads this week. West entered the reunion being accused by multiple players of lying, manipulating timelines, and showing little remorse for the fallout from his relationship with Amanda Batula from Summer House Jesse Solomon told West he feels like he's losing a brother, and West delivered it calm. Detached appearing apology. Dark Lord Andy Cohen jokingly asked if West is on a bunch of beta blockers because everyone around him seemed emotional as he seemed unaffected West revealed that he had taken a beta blocker, suggesting that may be why he wasn't outwardly emotional subtly shifting this discussion from whether he genuinely felt remorse to whether a medication is masking his reactions Siera, who is both Wes ex and a registered nurse, immediately identified this weakness and said West should still have felt emotion regardless of the medication Here we go Just a medical note, beta blockers don't remove emotion. They work by blocking adrenaline from binding to beta receptors in your heart blood vessels and muscles. parens the receptors responsible for the physical symptoms of anxiety inccreased heart rate, raised blood pressure and trembling All Cs, emotional experience remains, but the physical stress response can't fully activate. It's like putting your fight or flight symptoms on DND Enough with the beta blocker. bullshit. Damn Of Ba block or truthher thirty five point seven k likes on this thread Theeds is where the summerhouse drama is going down I'm still not monitoring it I'm still not really on threads ' to minimize, you know Coming in second place, Charlie Gorgu. This is Zach's older brother The Love Island USA season seven player executed an opportunistic parasocial flirtation play this week by inserting himself directly into his brother Zack's failed villa romance via threads once again. After Kenzie declared to Melanie that she wasn't fully attracted to Zack Anyway, and casually added that his older brother Charlie was, quote, a ton fucking cuter Charlie capitalized on the moment by posting a response on thread shortly after the episode aired, quote D W Kenzie bigig bro will take care of you I'm guessing DW means don't worry. I think so Transforming a throwaway joke into an active flirtation play extending his relevance in the Love Island ecosystem mod simultaneously, earning fourth audience goodwill as Kenzie was getting a bit of a victimization edit as well as stealing a small portion of the spotlight from his brother, twenty eight point eight K likes. Brilliant play by Charlie. Lo Charlie Me too. Well All of these were strong plays. However, there can only be one winner. I'm just scrolling through the document. There was like a fucking I don't even know what looks like a mananifesto. Yeah, It looks like a manifesto. It's an all black square with a shit ton of white ts. Yeah good. Cluse, what do you think you're looking at here Well, it says the timeline. I'm guessing it's the timeline of Sierra and West's Sit, whatever Amanda West, yes. Amanda, sorry Just read the first line. Okay, it says the timeline february tenth West and Wh Al you and A D you and Amanda. West and Amanda, go to dinner in Miami without me. This line specifically is is one of my favorites. O playay of the week goes to Summer House' Jesse Solomon. He posted an incredible timeline drop this week via Instagram Right after the summer House reunion, part three aired in a multiple slide Instagram post He finally delivered. prromised timeline of the West Wilson Amanda Batula. Bula relationship saga after previously joking, he would release it for one like He disguised this post, the manifesto As the final slide of what looked like a normal Instagram photo dump So he's basically rewarding all of us o sles, lunatics. Jesus Chist. He basically, there's a huge list of things that he documents in this. the first major event W and A go to dinner in Miami Dot without me this then gets more engagement because a lot of the fans are arguing this is an incomplete timeline and including myself as one of those unpaid investigators. peopleeople are adding their own points to this crowd source timeline at this point It is We resurfaced Amanda's June social media posts, joking she had broken her wedding vows We saw a photo dumped from West in the same period set to the machine Gun Kelly song, my ex's best friend and referencing a blind item from summer twenty twenty five. alleging that a reality television star was cheating on a significant other The fourth audience also highlighted Amanda's Watch What happenpped Live appearance where she said she would never date another summer house cast member and responded, Ew asked about pursuing any of the housemates. Wow. Congrats, Jessse. Yeah, that manifesto is wild I still think Jessse Solomon would be a good bachelor. S up. We also have some creatures to discuss here peopleople aren't the only ones making these pocial plays this week. The pocial creature the week goes to A couple of serpents time survivor champion traders player Harvey Shallow posted a photo shoot for a clothing brand called Wild Fang this week with a number of snakes adorning her body in various poses, wrapped around her neck, wrapped around her arm These are snakes that would make raw Raus proud Any real snakes That link. I'm looking at it. I see a I see a blazer You got to go go through the carousel Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my god, these are cool snakes. Real cool dudes. cool customers. Congratulations to all these snakes to Parvety and to all the winners of our paras Social plays this week. Now we got to move on to that final portion of the program where Pacecase and I are jumping down to the bottom of the pit, swimming around those murky waters, drinking them in, transforming our bodies into something that we don't yet know what the outcome will be. This is Gings from the pan pan What do you got, pastasecase? sccream it ose I We might have skipped business this week, but Clues and I are Watching every Love Island episode. on Patreon, patreon d. com slash game of Roses. And that schedule is very demanding. We are five nights a week watching it. We're also doing our recaps of it Um, I I' been doing something during this which is my summer house powerowerbnd Um And I've been increasing the speed. I'm not as fast as you yet, but I I've been recording I found myself recording a bunch of videos of the screen Nice, This is season one now I'm on eight. Okay There are I couldn't stop myself. Yeah I just kept recording the screen And then I had a conversation with my paramore, Jake And he was like, what are you recording the screen for? And I was like I don't know. Just to have. I don't know for my collection. Just to have for my files Like I don't even have a plan of anything to do with them. My Google phhotos is like at this point I would say probablybably one third squirrel photos for my Squirrel era It's probably one tenth Scbby pictures now All the rest of it is I bet Scobbies surpass squirrels Absolutely not, not even close Not even cl I used to take a hundred, two hundred photos of scorelace per day. for however many years that was I'm taking pictures of Scabby now. Winnie's cute When Come on now. When he's cute and novel, he's cute all the time, but he has to be novel too to get a photo about him, you know. Dang. At any rate. Most of it is Pictures of TV screens, videos of TV screens, all reality television. That's like what primarily all of my Google photos is that Yeah M memes, I've made it of reality TV etceta. etcera U It was it was a humbling moment Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna to have to delete stuff off my phone soon You don't have to They're building more data centers My screen this week has to do with dark magic. let's say. So I was not able to watch Love Island with you on this Tuesday night because I do it's a very important event One of my good friends had a book coming out Her name is Caroline Keepnus. She writes the you series that the Netflix show is based on. and her brand new Joe Goldberg book came out It's called You first and it's about Joe Goldberg. It's a prequel. It's when he was like in his teens and kind of like how he became the psychopathic serath And it's very good. it's I highly recommend it. If you like those books, you got to read it Even if you don't, it's a pretty good standable in book two. You don't have to know anything about him or the series or anything like that Fantastic writer, et ceta, eter. So she had her book release party at a bookstore in Silver Lake called Skylight Books Remember? Hard to remember it Oh yes. The last time I was in Skylight books was with you when we were doing our b signing of how to win the Bachelor. And a bunch of people came out for it and we were signing, taking pictures, it was fun, all that As I was walking in, I was like, it feels like the pit is still here. I could sense the dark energies. I'm not sure. ye How do I could sors still covering their walls I didn't even look for our book I just went into this thing, but I was like, I can feel the The swirlers, I can feel them coming. And I didn't know what that meant, but I swear to you, I could feel the energy of a pit there soil.? So I'm We sit down in the in the chairs, they do a little presentation. It's Caroline and her friend, this actress Rachel True, who is in the craft. if anybody remembers that movie It's one of my favorites of all time. They're doing the little thing. And then it ends and they're getting the books ready for signings and stuff And I go out front as I'm talking to Rachel. She and I friends as well. We're talking about witchy stuff and podcasts and whatever. And we're out there talking and someone comes up to me and is like, Excuse me, do you do a podcast this point Um There are This happens to me with like Some frequency. I would say maybe fifty percent of the time. happened to you. Yeah, you've seen it happen at the bar Yeah, exactly. Exactly It happens like semi frequently, I would say at this point, but it's always for or not always for, but very usually for necessary conversation, which has a pretty big audience and we have a big social media following and all of that This lady I said, Oh, the pockets of my parents. She's like, No, the one about the Bachelor Oh my go And I said, Yes I do. It's about Game of Roses. And that's what I'm saying. It was the swirlersew sted off I could just feel it. I could feel it. And this woman wasn't even there for that book event. She was just walking down the street. Whoa. Yeah, Sting right out in front of Skylight. The dark powers are still fucking there. We opened a fucking portal at Skylight think a deal open I think it's the portal. It is We should we should do something there S it up You set it up That's a beautiful scream. shhout out to scam of the pit I loved it. abbsolutely loved it. I could just feel the dark energy as As soon as we walked up there, I was like, Ohh yeah, the last time I was here We did some We did it. We peeled back the veil, we cracked through, we did something and whatever we opened there is still leaking dark energy into the world And I couldn't feel better. put Pandora back in the box That's right Youn't even buildilt the box. What's in the box? Build a better box We ain't the only one screaming up in here If you know about this show, you know, you can go to patreon. com sucharch Game of Roses, join us in the bottom of the pit and you get access to our discord where you can submit your own damned screams We have today, I believe the scream is a scream and it comes with a video. So what if it's a skylight person? Maybe Yeah. Ive got a dark portal and I emerge through it. This comes to us from the Millennial Vveteran And here is the we're going to listen to it and then we're going to see little videos as well, here we go H's the scre Hello Pit. This is your newest Dark Lord. Gather round the burning bodies while I tell how this tale became so I'm an influencer in the military Vveteran space. My cult has amassed forty two thousand followers. and I get to partake in fun things here and there But not has measured up to when I was able to collide my two world of Bachelor and Vetterans with a performance now known as the Veteran Bachelor This fifty minute show was in front of one hundred sweaty stationary bikers who are raising money for service animals for disabled veterans We had one Army veteran as our bachelor with three eligible players. The rose ceremonies were bone ceremonies and homage to the service dogs, and one challenge included a leash dance on the Bachelor. I did coach one player and she obviously won. Let me tell you there is no drug like being a Dark lord. I have never felt so high Prase B Laord Carlton