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From Love Island USA Season 8 Premiere Recap & Review: Ariana Madix Goes Full Dark LordJun 3, 2026

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Love Island USA Season 8 Premiere Recap & Review: Ariana Madix Goes Full Dark LordJun 3, 2026 — starts at 0:00

It's the Game of Rses. Welcome to the Game of Rosers! This is the Game of Roses. Welcome to the game of Rers Welcome to Game of Roses. This is Pacecase. This was Bachelor Clues. Now it's Ian course Now we call you sincere. sincere Lus told me in our watchalog that he wants to be referred to as sincere from now on. so I always oblig. It was just an incredible like U nascent play style. He doesn't even have to do anything It's just like, oh my god, your name sincere It's not of isincere Yeah. Probably won the honor award in high school. Probably most sincere Do have that? most likely to sincere There was an award in our high school. What was it a g? It would tell the truth the most No, we didn't have that aliz. My friend got it. We still honesty award. That's what it wass called. We had rodeo team member of the year We had What does that mean? It was the guy who won the most R Radio person. Oh my God. We had a radio. and a half And they would all wear like dusters and shit and cowboys and booths S suburb of There was a rodeo team for your high school like Var I don't know how to convey this exactly. This is the source and this was in the nineties, even though I am only twenty nine at high school There were like a social click was called the Kickers. And these were people who dress like Literal cowboys. like every day, they wore a cowboy hat, boots, Wrangler jeans, big belt buckle. if it was cold, long duster coat and like cowboy shirt. U I don't know. I can't remember what it was like short for something. somethingomet kickers, but they were just called the kickers Like it a thicker display thing They were horses and shit they They were on radio team. Oh. Most of them. Oh, okay. So kickers like Ps No, I think it was about like how they danced or something. I don't know somethinghing to do with the boots. I't I wasn't in it. I wasn't in that click. Sorry. I would play magic the kickers Yeah Yeah. All right, so anyay, anyway we're not here to talk about the kickers, obviously, who would be? What we are here to discuss of course is the first episode of Love Island USA season eight and holy fuck, one hour and forty five minutes of pure heroin straight to the fucking vein I can't love it more. I cannot convey to you the vibe that I went out into the rest of my house. There were people over I said hello. I was Giddy You got a hello from your whole family Just off love Island Every person glowed me Even Lokca, the dog. You got a dog glow, canine Gow? He looked at me and I knew That's a canine glow Proud of me. He's excited about this season I told him I was good Oh my go. it wasn not f. It was extraordinary We're going like I need to sing to the hills about it. I'm so it's hard. Like we're recording this immediately after we watched the episode. And so I'm like I want to start doing the recap, but I'm also just kind of basking in it for a minute. I just need like you just let ask Let I come down so I can think straight because right now fucked up Twist here Since you're glowing. You need to calm down. Yeah Sorry, We need to get less Goy in order to do this recap. Oh, you're still calling me sincere. I thought you were talking about sincere in the show. I got it stick with you've already forgotten your nickname. I know. I don't understand. whyy just say call me sincere and then you're not even recognizing it. Well how I have to spell it differently He spells it like the correct way, right How would you spell it? I don't know because I have to differentiate maybe with a C C IN E R E S IN sin and then sear S E E R like sin everyveryone sins. like That like Yeah, that's a a very devilish kind of thing. O it could be S Y in S E A R Sin C R Wow Who knows? Anyways? we have to do this. This could be But we have some business before we do our recap. Sorry What do we got? Number one Kazag Gor. Sincere and I are I should have never said this. It's been for a month and a half now you're gonna f be call me Sincere AK formerally No, sincere FKA formerly known as Bachelor of Clues and I are gonna If you walked along Salive Island, it's apparently even on Wednesday nights this week. That is tonight Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Snt No, Friday Yeah Monday, Monday. Right. Tuesday I think so And so we'll be doing recaps. You can watch along with us at patreon d. com slash Game Rroses every episode. literally you can watch them with us Th then we are doing a recap just like this one. going be out every Wednesday. Tonight, obviously we're only going recap episode one. in future recaps, it will convey as best we can everything that happened in the entire week, basically, the big moves and the big plays. U However, tonight is just that episode one and what Oh sorry, there's sorry, one more piece of business. I'm tastingapa. I am up to date on Rory, AK Real House Lizes of Rhode Island which is on Sundays The latest episode is out of Face Gcalapa. and also I will be doing the summer House reunion to when I'm able to what are we for reality TV fans. I feel like it's It's like the Oscars, It's the Super Bowl. It's Yeah like Shark Wek all togetheret. Well, this show, I mean, I hate to say this because we, you know, Bachelor is my my first love, but maybe this is my true love V I your name? to be more sincere to my true love. There's just not a show like this. It's done Every element of the show is done at the highest capacity that you could ask for in a show like this. They are elevating the art form of reality dating formats to a level we have never seen before. and they are doing it at this insane breakneck pace where it's an episode every goddamn day. The players's casting is outstanding. It looks outstanding, it sounds outstanding piece of this show is basically perfect Yeah and It just is really like it' it stands in stark contrast to me to the position that we find our beloved game Bachelor in right now, which has not even existed. lot of other shows. Match for instance. Yeah. pererfect match. loveove is blind. I'm like I should turn. I'm glad we watched Perfect Match before this overboard before this because watching anything after What we watch tonight is like Yes. It's just the best. It pales in comparison. and you know what is a big component of that. and it just comes through loud and clear in what we watched tonight The people who make this show care about what they're doing And they are trying to make something good. Whoody who. who Exactly. And they exactly. they care They also understand that the quality of the show rests on the level of performance the players deliver. So the entire environment, the entire production is made so that it is the most conducive environment for that high level play you could ever ask for. Bachelors' the opposite. are going to they don't give you a giant makeup room to make yourself look as good as possible. They if you're lucky, you get a fucking bariner Exactly. like it's they they they do the most to make it harder for you to play well Sleep in bunk beds. Sleeping in bunk beds? Yes. all of that Um, And they do it because there is still this old school mentality in that show in many of these franchises that the players are subjects to be tortured for our entertainment. that good TV is emotional duress. We saw tonight There was no emotional duress in this entire episode other than one person getting kind of like not rejected necessarily, but nobody being on outide the door. It is like, no one else pick pl. Yeah. That's the lowest moment we see someone go through It was exactly delightful Yes. And so let's jump into this. It begins with a three minute long opening music video that has every one of the players dancing and singing in front of a pool on a car out in the thing. Kenzie is on a fucking jungle, I meant to say. Kenzie is on a bed writhing around Madonna style It is a work of f.art shaped bed. Heart shaped bed, my apologies. And it is a Tremute players to the game and to the show. And again, it is has no Smblance of the idea that any of these players are sad, mad threatening to storm off the show or anything. It is them being happy It is the inauguration ceremony, like at the Olympics These everything is w ceremonies It was beautiful It. I mean, we talked about this in the watch along, but Clayton season I can't stop thinking about when we're watching it in terms of like the opening ceremony and how you're portraying the leads and We saw a child army come out and saying, Clayton sucks in his limo exits And Limbo exits are the opening ceremonies of Bachelor like versus Each one of these people gettingetting to display their personality, they look good, they look like they're having fun. they have a one thousand backup dancers to like make them seem like the star. They've now written the names on the suitcases, which are like featured, so you see their name unreal. And then they walk through those ITMs They walk through like the word of their name It is so artistic The creative choices are incredible I'm I'm like I had high expectations and they were blown out of the water on this. I feel exactly the same. and to compare it further to Bachelor Limo entrances, In Bachelor invariably It should be noted. in Bachelor, no one is coming up at their own limo entrance. The producers basically say, here are your choices. And then when you say, oh, I picked the one where I come in a red Ferrari, they go, o, somebody else is going to have that How about instead you come in dressed like a cow How about instead We're going to have you sit under a table for two hours Yeah with your face vertical and you're going to be under a plate unveiling His name was Rickleeach, better known as tabletop. Table topop. R IP. The RP Eventually Jesus The comparison I was trying to draw is in Bachelor, they invariably are going to take a couple of players and make them look like fools immediately. Yeah immediately. None of that here here. It's everybody's on the same level These are Olympic athletes. I mean, one literally is an Olympic athlete, but these are Olympians showing up to perform their best for us. And that is the presentation of this moment to us. In Bachelor, it's like, look at these idiots. That tone is in their show always. And I think it shows you how detrimental it can be. in terms of like really hooking an audience. It's old school, you know. Yes. Exactly. It's boobs one, it's We like to find females with good qualities and they zoom in on bootbs in the earlier seasons of Bachelor But what we see is such a celebration. It's like Summer has begun Everyone's going to find love. It's fun. Everyone who's working on this is having fun working on it, even who knows if that's true U I love this music video We then see that Kenzie and Emayah are going to be first handand. And An I gets the first intro And she expresses that Her mom is her best friend She's Like Every one of these players this season is extremely charismatic and professional and She's also the neepoaby of a NBA player We have NBA player progeny We have Olympic medal winning players like Some one's like, ah, I'll just sign up for Love Island. H But don't let that Nepoaby status fool you because Anaya also Slaps her own ass directly for the camera. letting us know she is here to play single for six months, ready to start a family here to meet her person. That man will be on one knee by the end of this. We then see Anya and McKenzie talking. they discuss their age and signs, segitarius and Virgo, they talk about their moons, Gemin I. then we see Kenzie's intro. She comes into Whitney Houston's I want to dance with somebody. This is money well spent, but a lot of it There ain't no two ways about that. You licensing a fucking Whitney Houston song for this Why don't they put hundred K Hond came part of that licensing. ono the price partot. one hundred K is absolutely ridiculous I don't know if that's much they paid for that song, but like, certainly it wasn't cheap.'t you think it was. I don't know. I literally don't know because there's f t of of hundreds of dollars or one hundred percent unless it's in the Yeah library of something. so much to elevate the show when you have giant songs, huge pop music like historic songs as part of the musical tapestry of the show. It shows that they fucking get it and they're not afraid to spend a little money to really put the polish on this shit. and Kenzie gets the benefit of that. She says she's from Georgia, just graduated nursing school the day before getting to Love Island, so she ain't ever going to be a nurse And then she talks about being able to do the splits. She was a competitive dancer. She loves doing the splits. She says it gets rid of all her pains and stuff. She does her stretch. express that groin the groin what she wanted us to do I feel inspired She also says she needs she's been revirginized after one point five years of no sex. She is now playing a PVC. This is her personal virginity card. She has given it to herself. There's no She doesn't say I'm aor again Virgin there's no like religious connotation. It's just like, I'm had sex in a year and a half. therefore I now have technically a PVC. We come out of the intros and this is maybe It just sets the tone so perfectly. Pacecase you enjoyed this moment We see Melanie come in as third Sant. She's twenty four you skip by maybe the best part. We come immediately out of their first two intros and Kenzie is talking to Anyia by themselves on a couch and she's like, I'm from Georgia. And Anah is I'm from Georgia too I was so shocked by this moment. I didn't even write any notes. She goes, bitch And certainly she says she's from Alana. Yeah. I loved it so much. I was like, this is the best way to start a sentence. It is Instantly, they are best friends And that moment when you're both first s The first two players. Yeah You got to know those numbers and be like Oh, I'm gonna be in the finals. My life has changedver. one hundred percent, you at least are given a very good leg forward. And brilliant producing here. put the two players from Georgia as the first two entrants. You know when they have their five minutes to talk to each other or whatever. They're going to be like, where are you from We're from the same place, Imediate best friendriends, Brilliant producing here. That attention to detail, fantastic. They hug Then Melanie arrives. She's from Philly but lives in Los Angeles. They toast best summer ever. We get her intro. She says Philly girls are blunt as fuck. She's Dominican. herer family loves to party, she loves music. She doesn't use the term girls girl. She says no girl that loves women has to say girls girl. Pace case, she thought this was a dig at last season Yeah, I believe this is kindind of coming for the players from last season where there was that constant discussion of what a girl's girl is and whether people were bullying Huta and vice versa, etcetera. I thought this was a pretty spicy thing to say early in the season, but it's also vague You couldn't hide behind that U I am so excited about this player. I feel like She had the hero player of like a Lah Kateab type. She is instantly giving us good play They talk about being delulu and delusional. The first three players make this pinky promise pack And they kissed it in saliva Basically saying if it looks like I'm being delusional, fucking call me out on my shit, we'll do the same for each other. Essentially saying like, don't let some guy fuck me over in here. If you know some shit, let me fucking know We are on the same team. We are the three best friends forever. We onlyly done next womoman to show up is two of them, Trinity and Bea Trees. That was my best pronunciation. Thank you very much. AA Bea. They meet, they walk in and compos all around. Bea introduces her Comos. She's from San Diego, twenty five. Her type is told dark and handsome. She likes a mouth mullet. Those are sensational, she says. She plays a PTC of this birth defect that required her to have her leg amputated When she was young, she now has a prosthetic leg. She is hyper competitive, bronze medalist in the broad jump in the Olympics. She thinks her strong personality helps her in dating. seex is important. No sex is better than bad sex, she says. So if you wake up If you wait for up for sex it better be good They all then have a't wake me up play Yeah Sex better than slumber play Bet Sex better be better than slumber. Bter be better than slumber. That's a good you know, competition title I thought she was an extraordinary player. I think she's competing with Kenzie for face player of the game Did you figure out what a mouthmullet is Yeah I think it's a goe Goi I think Where's the party? Where's the business All right. so maybe it's like one of those goatees that doesn't have a beard, you know what I mean where it's like a mustache that comes down like this and then but the beard part is shaved Oh Like like abars Ka yeah something like that. Teresting We'll do some research. We then get Trin another player I'm super excited about. She doesn't like anything ugly around her. I love that. I relate to that. Um, She's twenty two. Yeah Maybe is she our youngest player I want to say she said she's with the oldest player who's thirty. She's twenty two. I think there might have been another twenty two year old as well, but I'm not positive She basically says that when she's comfortable she engages in some more riske chemistry play She wants a golden retriever though Bye for one of our competitions maybe And then we enter Dark Lord Maddox And guess what She's not blonde anymore. It's not Gard Lord Maddox. It's Raven Raven is back with her brown hair Raven, in my opinion, is the darkest version of the Dark Lord Maddox and here you see her come out with the dark hair, a black skin tight dress, very revealing. This is satanic This is sinister. She' setting the tone for this season. There is no more Wide eyed little Ariana Maddox from another reality show' been d blond hair That's gone She's fully consumed by dark powers now. She will visit suffering upon each of our players and enjoy the savoring, the taste of their demise to start the season in this look, in my opinion, is basically saying She's gone, full Dark Lord Normally I would push back on you in terms of her like dark, dark Lording However, I a hundred percent agree with you. She's full Dark Lord. D energy this whole episode including as Ian said, the confidence in the fashion tape, which I did like that too She is so fucking good. And like she was good on Vanderpump. Don't get me wrong probably emerged as the most famous person from it. Um That certainly now. She is She is risen one hundred percent. And then she comes out and she's like, oh, welcome to Fiji. And they're all like, oh my God, Kenzie's like, This is real now Jpping bald. Yeah, they all call Ariana Grande, Ariana Mado sorry. This is sexy and they all say, Ohh, you're gorgeous. They're all compation. And she's hugging them. I'm so sorry. I'm sincerely sorry signed Sincerely sincere. She is in this moment Do something as a Dark Lord that I don't think I've ever seen in any other show. She is both authority figure and peer to the player equal measure She is both fan of the show And controller of the show in equal measure. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this and it works so fucking well to lend like she's basically the identity of the show, the voice of the show, saying, oh my God, I love this show. I love these players. but also I'm gonna fuck with you a little bit. lookook, I'm in my devil suit. She's fan girling to them also, but also stay the f away from me three feet away at least around this fire pit I am just so proud of her. I feel like she's representing Vanderpump so well. and And she was an extremely good player on that show too likeike I want you to watch it so badly The way that she gets on the show, O in Tom Sandeal like And this should be, in my opinion, a message For anybody out there who's thinking about getting into reality TV. This is what it can do for you Don't think of it as going into like, oh, I'm going to the Bachelor. Let's see what happens. It's like no, if you play everything right and you come out of any show You can be hosting any other show Aonomatics went from Vanderpump Rules to hosting the biggest dating format in the world I mean, that's crazy and dancing with the stars and playing Rxy H. Yeah like There is a pipeline at this point. and now with Sierra ascending, it's like ye This is the model. I'm like, what's gonna to come out of this U this is more and more scandals Maybe Yeah I hope so. But even even beyond the scandal, this is well, I mean, I guess technically Whitney Leavit is peripherally involved in the Taylor Frankie Paul scandals in that she was there and part of that show She's doing this too. She's also playing Roxy Ht and now going to have her own show, et ccera, et cetera, eta. So her own show no, sorry Jen got her own show She's doing a movie Anywways,. Okay someom. continontinue. Melanie shits on The most beautiful city in the world, Los Angeles, California. Hurting all of us icons I know. Can't find you live in LA. Fuck LA I mean whatever, dude I like Trinity as a player or Melanie as a player. Yeah I can't abide this Los Angeles Hatrired, obviously. Rady She's looking You gott to stop looking at Santac appe Foods Trinity is up next. Hey, don't shit talk Arowuan. I went to an Arowuan recently. Which one U Studio city. I've been to that one Or maybe it was Shermanaks somewhere around there I think I know return her out aisles are very narrow They kind of fold in on you You gotta go to the one at the Beverly Center We're at at the grove, I meanm sorry. That's the best one. not their brand. Okay. That's the original one. You gott to go there. Melanie say find We find Tity But Trinity is playing a sabbatical. She's quit her job at the hardware store in order to play this game. Of course Yeah And I think sure would still take you back even though you're never going back there None of these people None of going back. None of these people go back anywhere, exactly. They're existing in the internet now forever. Kenzie has been single for one and a half years. She is not a roster girl. and we get introduced to this idea as Ariana Maddox asks, are you a roster girl? Now roster people have been put into the conversation. We're going to hear that word a lot Yeah She's not a roster girl C can only talk to one guy a time. This can be a huge change. Anya says applly just for the fuck of it. feels like this isn a prayer answered. She dates a lot, won't settle for what she wants. She says every girl has a roster until you commit to the one person Bea then says allize rosters normize all rosters She is a bronze medal, as she says. She asks Ariana says, is it okay to talk about your birth defect? She says, absolutely fibulular Hemoilia, I believe I wrote this right The Fibilia doesn't fully develop amputated ten months old. now she runs for a living. How do you guys deal with her top tier athleticism and men are insecure about it? Aan says, that's a them problem. The guys then arrive. Bryce and sincere Not me, the other sincere are up first. They all say they all say they look amazing. And then Ariana makes the guys intro themselves as they show up to the group. Sincere is from New Jersey track and field coaching. Ba is like, oh I wrote track and field professionally and he's like o Oh, shit, I'm retired. I don't run anymore. They kind of make a joke about, you know, I don't want to have to race you type deal. We get Sincere's intro twenty five, New Jersey loves his name, writes is signs all his letters sincerely sincere Raised by his grandmother mother they taught him to live the right way. trrack with a sport, bigig ten tramp, alsoso a bookworm. He is smart, not going to find his wife in a nightclub, maybe a run club or a dot dot dot museum. Curious what his favorite museum is. He is a lady man. He says he's selfish. There's only one sincere selfish not to spread the love. And he's been single for a while. He wants to find that chase. He's ready to go back in the groups Since Syr tells them. he's living up to his name And then we see Bryce M talks about moving to New York to model when he was seventeen. He's been modeling a lot. He says he's a sensitive, emotional person. MackKenzie calls him a simp Not great. And he says, Oh, don't do me like that. And then this is one of the moments I'm going to remember tonight by is Kenzie calling Bryce a simp. Simpple jack Wild play. He doesn't defend it will. Don't do me like that is not a good simp attack in my opinion Interesting We see then that the Simp Bryce was is twenty nine, the oldest born in Hawaii, but works in LA Meling at electric work on garbage trucks We then get our his song by the way Not Whitney Houon, I don't know who sang the song, but the lyrics were going, He's a good hardworking American. He's a good hardworking American. like that. I don't know if I got the melody right, but I wrote the lyrics down. and I was like, what the fuck is this song? I don't think I would want that as my intro song. Th you got it, sorry. Sure en get Zach, who is a Nppo baby. He is Charlie's brother and he says, he comes for Charlie I would not do this I don't know how strong a player' sack is. He says I'm an OG unlike Charlie error First error by Zach. I'm like, I agree you dynamic duo Ch probably made it to beyond the villa. Yes. You are going to go far. The franchise has a literal stake in this man. Yes The play I cle up with this person one hundred percent In my opinion, the play you make here is You know, I would have never thought about coming on a show like this, but my brother came on and he said he found love. I know it didn't work out for him, but he said he found love and I'm looking for that So here I am in the opportunities Beyond anything I could imagine in my worldild's dreams, I'm just happy to be here. Thanks to my brother. thanks to you, Ariana. Thank you to everybody who's here tonight. and thank you to Jesus S Christ, my Lord and Savior. And nothing about me being hairless isn't it? I one hundred percent agree. I'm like, where was the coaching here nowhere. He's trying to like one up his brother. He doesn't what that play to me suggested, it was full ass ego play. he wants to differentiate. I don't want to just be known as Chrolie's brother. Well now, you're known as Charlie's asshole brother dear. You fuck it up You bed. You get his name. No one I look up to more in the world than Charlie. Yeah. That's what I Exactly. Charlie taught me how to date Charlie taught me how to fall in love. Charlie taught me how to kiss We get an interest okay. Char want to back out when you Your arms and your legs are tied to pieces of the cross, isn't it? Charlie taught me to. Charlie taught me to hide in the ber when I'm getting a A good covered twook session on a challenge on Loververs Blind. We built a loveve Island. We built a loveove Island set in our backyard. we lived in L Fredy. That was Bloody. We got over Freddy When our parents died, we had him come over and eat the corpse. It's a deep cut. So sorry. Okay So we get corpses and we get Zach intro. He talks about his last relationship being four years then it faded out. He loves one direction. He uses that to pick women up. We hear a one direction song. He loves an alpha woman in bed because he's lazy and he has been in the gym. He shaved his whole body. got to be sleek in the villa and talks about shaving his ass first stash shaving play of the season We then go back to the group. He says he's not a heartbreaker. The last two guys come in and Sean and Kasey. They come into the group hugs all around. Seaan says, I'm from all over a bunch of states and I'm a cop And then somebody's like, whoa, what shall we say, bro? immmediate anti cop He's a fed, someone screams Yeah, he's a Fed.. So this is in we've been talking a little bit over the past year now, notot even six months maybe with Massive pro Trump conversation aired in the most recent season of Ls Blind. Now it's in ninety Day as well. And it seemed like all of these shows to me are really being like pro MAGa, at least in their presentation of people who are MAGa Here you see the opposite almost immediately. It is the show giving you the attitude. Yes, we cast a cop. But we're gonna let these people who don't like that say it I' hiding that sentiment. Ian Sterling you know, fight back against it in the beginning. Do we talk about this that He said hundred K is the prize, but It's basically one tank of gas Yeah, it comes up a little bit later U But yeah, they they do an in stterling joke basically saying like America is fucked. gas prices are basically an anti Iran war joke Yeah which I'm here for it. This is the show that's doing. It's an interesting mix Yeah We get Sean the cop say that he is known as officer sexy pants to some of his local friends and he plays his package deal immediately He has a two year old Um, We get Kase C intro. He has a big heart H dances for people that he works with. he Wors with the elderly. He's a pleaser in the bedroom And then we get this challenge door challenge part one And I loved this. It was so well thought out. You learned so much about each of the people It's got the dramatic effect of the door opening I mean, I don't know if you learned so much about the people, the questions are all very surface level. You're like, I know all I need to know. If they dog stle I think if you answer play versus cat or dog, that is a bad play and we learned that it's a bad player from that. You learn a lot about their game acumen, but you don't learn anything about them as people, I would argue. But they they float these questions basically, what is your favorite sex position is the first one missionary doggy style or cowgirl. You have to go stand in front of a closed door that has that word above it. The door opens and you see who's on the other side who got matched with you effectively. We see Anya matches with Casey and Sincere both on the missionary door and then Anaya is obligated to make out with of them right there right then and there. while everybody fucking watches. We then see the next one is doggie style. It's Trinity and Ba match with Seaan and Bryce. They all fucking make out in every mathematical configuration. We then see Cowgirl is Kenzie Zach and Melanie and he squeezes Kenzie's ass while they make out and I or sorry, then Ariana Grande then Arion Maddic Jesus have a good grace I'm to say it so many times. When I hear Ariana, Grande is just the next thing, you know? You know I love wicket also Ariana Maddox then is like, we're so back And indeed, they are Yeah I love this line. They It's for the trailer. It's for us watching it. Yep That one was given to her, but she delivered it well. Then they have to all talk about why they like the position they were with Ba likes to be manhandled. That's why Seaan likes it also. He says, I really am into grabbing the hair and the neck and spitting in the mouth And Bea says, that's the holy Trinity Did you know that On this Christian season that's the H trrinity. You know, you and I when we went through the Instagrams, we were like, o, heavy Christian presence in this season. There's a lot of people with Bible quotes in their bios and stuff.. I forgot about all of that watching this episode. taint no shit. That's not what I thought the Holy Trinity was, but it's not I'm not that informed Now what you think it is is probably right. What do you think it is? the Holy Trinity Mmm Thesome, two guys, one girl Oh, no, that's a devil's reason You know what the actual Holy Trinity is, I'm assuming. Yeah. Okay Um it was a it was a joke T Better than any of Ian Sterlings's. Thank you. Zach then says he likes' great Zach says he lies cowcroow because he lies to be used and abused. N next question is what type of person are you dog cat or plant, dog? Sean, Sincere, Kenzie, Melanie, Anayah They Bay now getting her second kiss with Sean. Kat is Trinity, Bryce and Zach. Plant is Casey and no one This was my I don't know if it was my error of the game. It probably was. This was my error of the game Casey Choosing Plant was also my error of the game You can't do this. No Fty percent of households in the US have a dog twenty to thirty percent have a cat I don't know what the statistics are on plant, but you can't This is non starter. What it shows is I won't blanketly use this statement. I won't say this blanketly. I'm sure there are some people who have deep emotional connections with their plants, but generally speaking I think it's probably easier to have a deep emotional connection with a dog or a cat than it is a plant And therefore a choosing plant conveys you are not open to having a deep emotional connection with another living creature in my humble U conveys that, conveys I don't know how to actually take care of another bee responsible Exactly. It's not good. I mean, are you even guessing what the people on the other side are saying? s he was trying to be edgy. and I'm like, Yeah Who are you What audience are you addressing with this? Exactly. And what's the edge in a plant case? I don't understand Gotta be ed you. staying edge lord it's like it would be a question of like, how do you like to Look after sex perfectly fine, hair messed up or like bruised and battered. And that's, you know, bruised and battered is the edgy choice. I like get crazy. you know, something like that. I also edg. The other reason that I think it's the error is that it messes him up the whole game. It kind of leads to him like feeling like he's on the back foot. He gets an empty door again It hurts his confidence. and I think we see that Totally. So Then the next question is, is it okay to check your partner's phone? Never sometimes or always, never And by the way My opinion on this is sometimes is the correct choice here. You want to convey that you are fine with privacy, but also you want to convey to the other person that if they ever feel the need to check your phone and it's some kind of extenuating circumstance, you're totally fine with doing that. You don't want to say never Because that is like I got shit on my phone. I don't ever want you to see. And you don't want to say always because that's I want to see your phone whenever the fuckanoid Exactly. I would choose Never though. I think there's a very for TRR defense. I think there's We see fortyR defenses of all of them Always like, o, I'm an open buook. neverever o You should be able to trust your partner. But then when Me and the cop answered neverever. I was like Shit, mayaybe I'm wrong That cop gots some shit on his phone, he don't want anybody to look at never, you know what I'm saying? So the neververs are shy. the Holy Trinity A lot of that You think he got videos on Lake Trnesty? I don't know Heitting in mouth. Yeah.'s wild episode one. That's what cops do U Ners are Seaan Anaya and Bea. This is the third time that Bea and Seaan have matched and are kissing. Sean laughs and says, I love this game, open gameplay speech. Sometimes it's Charlie Casey. I also like this game Me too Kenzie, Melanie and Trinity Kenzie says Bryce had a turle tongue and she was turned off by him. U just shooting this guy down left and right Sinceer opens his door to nobody. H turtle tongue in a creatureless episode was my Creature of the weeek Yeah I think I There was no other creature. You're right. a one. Bryce's turtle tongue was also my creature of the week. I think so Yeah, there was nothing else. Well didn't Did Beayz say something about when she was talrquking she look at dog trying to puke or something? Yes Something like that. Maybe. Maybe you can do that one I'll do it all time. Okay. I'll do the Turkey. Trinity hints that she has a cheating PTC. U and then Ariana asks A and, who's here Find love. Everyone goes to the door, everyveryone makes out. I mean We're so backad. Well they set it up? The answers to that question are no thanks. Are you here to find to find Bove and have the summer of a lifetime. No thanks, maybe or hell yes. So it's a given. You must all go to hell, yes The edgy play here would have been to go to Mbe or no thanks. No. That's an edgy fucking play. No thanks. It's just Casey. Yeah, exactly. I can think go to hell' a reason for that. You'd be like No, it's it's not for a good time. I'm here for a long time to find my Soul me Yeah, I'm actually checking out the property. I'm thinking of moving here. I'm not here for love at all. This is a real estate deal for me. I'm gonna live here and see' nothing. Yeah, exactly. Looking for studs, for a real estate deal tri. Yeah my God. Okay. So A says who's here for the right reasons. First, you got to make a big decision. Everybody's going to have to couple couple up. So the guys are going to stand in front of the doors with their names on it wouldn't stand in front of the doors. they w want to cou up with. Trinity matches with Bryce. They are the first couple of the season. She went off compatibility. Bryce is stoked. The kisses were great, the right tempo. he's happy. She shows him. History is made. Seawn is next Ba matches up with him. they kiss again. They're both into chemistry, happy. Casey is up next. opens the door. Ain't nobody there, just like when he opened it for the plants. There ain't nobody who want to mess with the plant man. rough toal Anser made this answer happen Yeah, for sure it did It set him down a path that's like, what is you want volume. I think you want as many kisses as possible and then. That's how you prisoners' dilemma to be like, okay, well, we're going to match because obviously we made out three times. Yes. You don't ever want to open the door and have nobody there because it takes away a full round of getting to make out a full round of interaction, chemistry interaction play. Then you have to make out with the floor Look, I don't wan to keep going back to Magic the Gathering, but it's very similar to Magic the Gathering. You never want to take a turn Is it Yes, you never want to take a turn with no interactions or no plays Mhm You don't want to ever basasically have like a null turn. That's what he had there Hm. Was it edgy? No, do you respect him or as a man nor as a player. I don't think it achieve the edge he was looking for. It's a rough one to watch. He says he doesn't feel good, but this happens. We made a joke on our watch loog of like, does it happen to people People understand being in the situation standing in front of an orange neon door that you've opened after you said you're more of a plant than cat or dog person to find that no one is willing to mage with you after that. I've never had that experience. Ariana says they'll get up by the end of the night. Don't worry about it. takeake a seat by the fire pit Sinceer is up next shamed to that fire pit to be like unmatched. No one standing It's really tough.'s it's like a A much worse version of like not getting picked for a team of kickball or something when you're in's last sand in paradise. Yeah. But I will say, it does give you a bit of a narrative path like immediately. It sets you up for can you come back from this? Will you be able to go friends to lovers with somebody? How is this going to work out for this person? You become a bit of a main character At least for the time being. Now, it could backfire and you could be eliminated first because nobody wants to fucking match with you, but at least for right now you've got attention on you because of this bad play. We then see Sincere is up next Ani and Melanie match with him. he picks Melanie, andi has to sit by the fireplace with KC. Zack and Ken Kenzy match Um She says she likes his accent. I like his accent and his old dark features and we got a bunch of things and got them in c for Be because Beendy is a player and she recognizes Of course. Stack is an epo, baby. but also recognizes immediately out of the gate, your first couple, you have to be in If you're not, you're going to be perceived as an asshole. U att the very least, whatever is going to happen, you will get a victim play out of this if you are presenting yourself as like into the couple. We then see a nN KCer force a couple up. She's like, I'm happy and excited to explore connection. He says he was expected her to be on his side of the door. And he's happy and excited. First five couples. Arianna tells them Somebody's gonna win hundred thousand dollars. She says you don't get too comfortable, the door could smack you right in the face. Fireworks go off the villa over the of the feeling by Carly R Json placeays Mima. money. They put that money in first night chats. They all go around the set. I love Clevelanding checking out the bedroom, checking out the different places they can go. Trinity says it's a Barbie dream house. She's in awe. Everybody loves it. She wants to go to Soul ties first. She It's the game C to you Yeah, they've all watched it. They know that these are haallllowed sacred locations. Kenzie illuminates us to the idea that this is in three dimensions But she is not living in a two dimensional plane or even one or four. But the third dimension is where she resides. Trinity, Bryce Kenzy and Zach find the Sess area. They establish this is where you can be secluded. We then see case new area. Yes, that is a new area, which we saw in the very beginning also. they unveiled that that they've added a location, which I fucking love. And now it's kind of like isolated. Yeah. that's what you want because then going just to that area means something for your track It's say less. I think it's the fucking area This ain't where you go to talk. w Yeah This is like a stutter step to the hideaway. You can't just go in the fucking high less. but you can go and say less Want to go and say less Oh ye, save us. my God, we're definitely gonna hear that We'll see. Casey and up next they have a chat. He says what messed him up was the plant shit. He tells her he's nine animals Eerror of the game. He's doubling down on the first air. Doubles down I ye this is part of the first one, but I'm just like, why would you ever say this? And then he goes into this long explanation about how he thought it would be edgy, but it didn't work. And she's like, Anyway, I'm a marketing director. and my dad played in the NBA. I work with my family twenty four seven. And he's like, I love a family oriented girl. and she laughs at his facial expressions. That's their first We then see sincere and meelany. You guys them Inincere and Melanie's chat They establish that they're both fans of the Eagles, Philadelphia fans and Melie says me and I bleed green which makes me think that must be the color of this Tam That's right. Do you think that that's true That that's the color of the Philadelphia Eagles but She cares that much about that team U yeah, maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it's just an affectation I Ser says that he is anti egg here It saying But he wants to try on the first day to make her eggs. So he's like, just let me do what I gotta do. let me cook. see what you. professional. You got to get your your breakfast. game up to par if you're going to go into this game J just if you're a guy going into love Island, you take some culinary classes using the ingredients of pancake and waffle batter Bacon Avocados toast and eggs. Yeah, that is it. You can mix some fruit in there, but there's not a lot to be done with fruit other than smoothies. I guess maybe you could make some compotes. You want to work on your presentation play too. Are you gonna spe person's name? Is there going to be a heart? Is it going to be like exclusive? You know what you're doing? You know what you're doing. Here's what you're doing Hibachi style Beyond Habachi style, you're doing Michelin star style You are doing that. Your presentation is A stack of three pancakes evenly spaced, beautifully fluffy with a pat of butter on top, a strawberry or blueberry compote drizzle artistically on the plate. That's what you're getting Sorry, you don know't what. You on your bedside bner as you present this breakfast. I strawberries. Well, this is what I've made you and so it's what you're getting. now you' consume it one with the pan Was it with the pancake that sucked Yeah. It was Chris's pancakes, I think, right? with that? I don't remember, but I don't remember either. We'll see some more recakastay I'm sure This is Kenzie and Zach. They're talking and she's talking about how she graduated the day before she got here and he says, Ohh, I was in physiotherapy rehab assistant for two years left to travel. My dad's British, but we're Greek blooded. And she's like, L a great go He's like, Yeah some He's amazing They compliment each other's gaze play. and she says she talks through her eyes. So she's even saying her gaze play has the ability to communicate complex ideas and sentences. He says he's never been with a blonde girl. Immediate error. I see what he's trying to do here, but this is not how you want to do it. She ITMs, she likes him. Mbe that should have been my error in the game. That one is pretty bad bad he might get be able to skpe by this the skin of his teeth a little bit because it's so early in the game. But this a in my opinion, this is a horrible indicator that he does not understand this game She ITM that she likes him, but she's going to keep the boundaries up a little. She can't read these men. Zach tells her that he waffles sometimes and she's like, I know what that means. It means you ramble. And he's like, that's right. So yeah he He basically is telling her like You might the one? But he's doing it in a way that allows him to still Exactly. And he's even saying his ITMs like, I don't want to string her along, but that's exactly what he's doing. And just conveys to me that he doesn't understand the complexity of the game, that if you want to cut J have to do it openly and move on. You can never have this weird period where you're leading her on. She's going to be able to use that against you in the very near future. He does not strike me as a good player, which is strange too because he comes from legacy. He should have had training. What was the training here? I'm so curious because I don't know. H like Narring it down by a hair color alone is never a good move. This audience is women To say it's based on something where like all these people are dyeing their hair and are wearing fake hair anyway. L It's just like, o, I don't like women who have Bot talks or something, like saying that to all these players. You could probably do a good one too. You could just be like this may backfire on you, but you could just be like, Oh, I noticed your accent. Southern American Yeah, that's right Wh'd you vote for Could get you out clean. could get you out clean, could backfire, but could get you out clean C backfire? the answer is. C backfire could get you out clean. I don't even think it's a fifty fifty. I think you probably. What do you think the odds are on that? How old is she twenty two or something twenty four twenty. I think your odds, but she's from Alabama Georgia. She's from Georgia I think right. Yeah first two people showren're from Georgia. Yeah yeah I'm going sixty forty, Mga. I want to say this came up Someone was saying that she's not. Okay, so good back for. I don't know. I work a backlar I think you should make it pretty obvious on your social media Yeah beforehand And why she want to get up the Island Bryce then and Trinity are up next And he's talking about how much he loves living in L.A. And she's like, I've been there once. I was dressed out shitting on his hometown immediately. He explains, in addition to modeling, he also has another job that he's insecure about. He fixes garbage trucks and she's like, I love that. She ITM's loving a handyan who fix things. Um And she compliments him calls him Prince Charming, he asks for a kiss and gets that first kiss of Love Is own season eight I thought that was going to be my play of the game Yeah me too Sean and Ba up next she asks him about being a cop. He's been a cop for six years, he says Even though he's not a cop now, he famously has quit his job to pursue fame in reality TV. As M as Matt Yeah, I don't know if it's his mayor or his sheriff. One of the two were like calling him out in articles He asks man if she likes country music. She goes, No, what are you White? I laughed so fucking hard at this put them on the spot They get into a little argument about how she would turn off radio if he puts on country music in the car Then we are watching all the women go into the makeup room, glowing orbs all around. It's a beautiful set as always. Again, as compared to Bachelor or any other show really, where they cramp people in the smallest spaces they can and don't give them anything near this. This is why the show's a million times better Umhm U Kenzie in this girl chat tells everyone Zach's error. He told her he's never dated blonde people And when she says that she makes my Faceplay with the game. Kenzie's faceplay throughout this entire episode is like price of admission in itself one hundred percent is constantly at a thousand She has like level. this by the way was also my faceplay of the game. She has just kind of like H restesting face is big eye aperture to begin with. just like how she looks niceice Yeah, exactly. And you're like, oh, wow, she has a really big eye aperture. Then when she goes into faceplay mode, The mouth comes out and it's also gigantic aperture. And then the eyes get even bigger to where the entire iris can be seen. You see the whites of the eye surrounding the entire thing. It's like I mean, it's like last playing hoodie here She's hoting the. It's unbelievable. and I think she's going to be getting my face play. I mean, who knows who some of these bombshells are going to be. But so far there's nobody at this level. Zach ITMs No That he doesn't want She also involves like claw work with her hand. Yeah, she does a lot of clawing over the face Zach ITMC doesn't want to cuddle to give her mixed signals. This is also an error. Kasey then tells the guys about how he and Anaya had a or sorry, tells the guys about how Anaya had a good head on her shoulders and her vibe matched his. Anaya can't tell the vibes if they're for real or not she has to test the water. She ITMs that he's handsome So he has aspects of a guy you would date goodood looking, I guess is one aspect. They then tells Sean talks to Sean and Bea says or sorry, tells the other women about Sean and says that him having a kid is kind of a red flag to her. and And says, because we're walking into the village, doesn't mean we're getting married. And Seaan then tells the guys how Bea is awesome and a crazy athlete. Bryce talks about Trinity. He says she's the baddess. He gave her a kiss. The guys all give him their respect, the daps. Trinity tells the other women He's almost thirty, but she's still open for fun. They get into bed with each other that night and we see Zach and Kenzie put a pillow between them and we get all the night shots, Melanie and Sincecrea holding hands. So we're seeing some Some things developing here And they tell each other that they're trouble Y trouble, No you trouble. No yourou, I'm the most stranger, the most jrouble Double trouble to give themselves a name Morning one The guys are making the breakfast. Trinity says she needs waffles, not avocado toast. This is another hatred of Los Angeles monologue she gets. The guys brain le Breakfast Trinity likes Price' eggs. Kenzie kissesZack on the lips. Casey kisses Anyia. The women descend, butts out And Casey and Anya have a little discussion. They talk about how they feel as a couple. He feels good. He likes her. She likes him. This is a double love level one. She's big on fairytaes. She's looking for a prince charming. She wants to be courted. They talk about how culture has shifted. He's not going to be as chivalrouous as she wants. He's like, it's not like the old days. I'm not going to put a jacket over puddle and And she's like, no, no, no Hand with those puddles yourself. Fitch. Yeah, I want to see you step in that puddle Um They do bond over. however, he suggests, I will at least walk on the right side of the sidewalk for you, taking the brunt of oncoming traffic if necessary. She loves that. They bond. He's ITMing that he's into her and his confidence is now brewing. They kiss in the photo booth and then we go to Sincere and Melanies sincere backpedals on why he said You can't always look at some's phone. He's like, No, no, of course you can. Yeahah I didn't mean that for real. I know no one else said it, so. I didn't really mean it. She asked him if he's a roster person and he's like, I am. I mean, I was literally you're in the show dating a roster Literally, you just made out with's like every ten minutes.' like criticizing rostering as a whole saying that it's worthKWR, but it's like That is the entire premise of the show Correct. We see God R says he doesn't want to steal Trinity's youth because he's the oldest and she's the youngest. Zach. has at least picked st up on something Oh, sorry. Stealing her youth is like My understanding of it, my connotation of it is that you like wouldould lock someone into a relationship for like their prime years when they could be out finding their soulmate and then it ends or something like that, right? She's literally on Love Island Biggest fucking show in the world at age twenty two. Ain't nobody's stealing her youth. She's living one of the greatest youths a human being in the year twenty twenty six can ever live I feel like that comment, I mean, it might be them both like soft dumping the other her hatred of LA him not wanting to steal youth I feel like it could be She should be having fun, she shouldn't be tied down kind of thing. I'm more for to get are looking for My Yeah I need somebody who's at least twenty three years old. Yes. Trinity tells Ba that she's um Not a good kisster gets the ick from saliva, even her own and Baye tells her that she wouldn't date somebody with a kid. She wants to get to know everyone. The anti saliva play, I thought was pretty interesting. I love it. It is very strange. We then get Oh, I like this play. Melie tells Kenzie to give P match the benefit of the doubt based on the Bond comment Yeah. And is that play strategy? I don't know. We then see door challenge number two. It's basically a sticker twist And everyone has to go on a red light or a green light behind the door to say, Do I want to keep my partner or not? And we see which ones are mismatched And we also intro First two bombhells. So the mismatches are Sean and Ba. she's pivoting. he's not. Mackenzie and Zach, she stays but he's pivoting Trinity and Bryce are both pivoting, and then An and Kasey and Melanie and Sincere are both staying So Ariana says now there's two bombshells. they're going to come in, knock on the doors, turn up the heat and anybody who's standing on the green dot who's sticking off the table, but the red dots are going to get to get personal with Kata and Gabriel, Gabriel's first he comes in head toe ull body of tattoos. He says, I'm a bad boy and I'm going to go for somebody if I want her. I'm a great kisser and I'm ready to show them how Brazilian men do it. Then we see Kata Another twenty two year old from New Hampshire She says, she's ten out of ten. The men are going to fall to their knees for me. I'm in my player mode and I'm going to step on toes if I have to. These are bombshells through and through. They've been coached by producers on what to say here and they are fucking delivering. U then the women see Gabriel walk up, the men see Kata walk up, but the The women don't see Kata and the men don't see Gabriel Gabriel then kisses Bea behind the door, full makeout and you get this beautiful shot bisected straight down the middle. You see the guys on one side of these doors, the women on the other side wall is right in the center of the frame bisecting it. The guys they're matched with can't see what's happening just two feet away from them on the other side of the door. Gabriel is just making out hard core with Ba We then see Kata is making out with Zach, Gabriel now shirtless inexplicably walks over to Trinity and just disappeared in the moments that we weren't with him.. Kata then goes to Bryce. Gabriel takes off thenen in the end he takes the two single women By the hand and leaves and Kata does the same with the two guys. Very confusing. It's very sexy I think this is This scene Part of why my head was spinning after this episode, I was just like Fish shit, we're so bad They released a teaser that was bllack and white and it had a chair drag and it was like The caption said Say please in terms of releasing the cost list and to issue social media like that with such confidence and then deliver such an incredible premiere This challenge specifically is so well set up The way they're introducing the bombshells is like getting the maximum value out of it It's so good And also I guess I'm going to say my play of the game goes to Kenzie for staying. Giving herself kind of this victimization edit in terms of going forward. I never think you want to say stray. especially right at the beginning. you got to match up I be like, I'm pursuing this You can always pivot A hundred percent, there's plenty of time to do that Yeah I agree, I agree with you. I I think I give her my play of the game to. there I mean, it's hard to give a play of the game because there was no big bombastic play that really set the tone for anything other than an error, which we both gave to Ky for Um talking about his plants. U. I do think overall, my MVP probably is also Kenzie simply because of the energy she's bringing, that face play is off the fucking charts And now I think she's going to get a little bit of a victimization edit. moving forward But there were some good plays all around. As much as I hate to say it, I liked the cop quite a bit. One week in Oklahoma. Yeah. I look, I love's bombastic play style For me, I mean, she gets my play of the game My MVP goes to Trinity I think she is Her and Melanie, I think I was the most excited about their Instagrams and She delivered was uttering eccentricities about her saliva and all this shit I just think she's going to be around the entire season Yeah And choosing Bryce in the first thing, but then pivoting was the right move because She had matched with him a bunch of times. I think she's a player and she was looking for soul ties. Yeah No, totally. It's hard to pick anVP two because like you're saying, there's so many players that are just like electric this season. They are actuallyctually wait, I kind of want to give it to Baya Yeah, she was great too. The Holy Trinity. It wasn incredible. Holy Trinity, her face playay. They're all trying to get a mamaita.ree. Off the jump, everybody's looking for Mamasita. And I love that they are just out there laying it on the table like, let me do, Holy Trinity Let me do someomebody else had some weird thing. the saliva thing. someomebody else had a weird ism I forget what it was, but they're all trying. They allh like get the game now. There's going to be one moment, one phrase that is kind of like synonymous with this season. They're all trying to hit that home run and it's beautiful to watch them play. I really like Melanie too. I think she's probably my my second favorite behind Kenzie. She's my other MVP as well Her and Trinity both are like they're calculated players. They are playing the ten dimensional chess. Kenzie, I don't know if she is. She's got that like She's more of a just like type. Yeah. she's got a little TFP. She's got a little Hannah Brown. She's like I'm waiting for her to do something and I know it will happen that you just don't expect. There's a little bit of danger in her playstyle because it's like it just seems unpolished. This is like a diamond in the rough. She is going to be a whirlwind. That excites me because what that's going to do like in context with these other players who are more calculated that type of playstyle can just fuck and be like, I don't care what your plans are. You're all fucked And I'm curious if that's going to happen or not It's something that makes me think Kenzie's actually one of the best players is because What she's doing actually seems very foriRR If Yeah she's if you do a chaotic playstyle And youing your mind and you're going back and forth like It seems more like human then cououpling up a hundred percent right off the bat Yeah, not exploring, not saying which Totally. And she's got the accent. She's like a real TV TV character. Like she could be leading a sitcom, you know what I mean? Yeah, She reminds been Miley Cyrus a lot Yeah She's got some m in general, I would say like this season, I'm like, This is one of the best I've ever seen one hundred percent right out of the gate. And imagine they almost had another one. There was almost two other people. Gabriel andana filmed the whole Yeah, exactly. And she's gone now. But I like it with five. I think five is perfect. We I really got to know everyone. I mean, I don't know if that's actually but we gotta I I spend more time with them each of them says they like to have sex That's right out of the three positions given Mmm The Holy Trinity The Hly Trinity. Yeah Well, U That's it. We did it. We recapped night one. we We're going to be doings recaps every week on Wednesday. They will now begin to encompass the entire week that has transpired, but you can follow along every episode with us at patreon dot com slash game of Roses if you want to stay up to the second or up to the day at least with every one of these games. 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