Discussing the Paranoia Thriller The Conversation

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I I most of the films I've been recommending have been from the seventies and the eighties And I'm going to go back to the sixties for this one a movie called Chade Last week, we talked about the Great race. I neglected to mention that the score was by the great Henry Mancini. Oh yes. So I want to bring up a Henry Mancini score. It's a great score, but it's also a great movie directed by Stanley Donon, who was not known for directing these kind of pictures He directed singing in the rain. He he was mostly known as a musical d. He directed that one that road picture. Yeah, two for the road. Yeah two Yeah withith Audrey Hepperurn and Albert Finney. I love that one too. We'll talk about that one on another show But Chade interestingly came out in December of sixty three, a couple of months, a couple of weeks actually after the Kennedy assassination And I was reading an article about it online about how Pauline Kale, the critic, fell in love with the film, but she couldn't get anybody to go see it because it was it was oldld Hollywood It was kind of one of the last films of what they used to call cllassic Hollywood and She felt the taste to change that people were more cynical about movies at that about American movies at that point. And Bogart had died, Gable was dead, Marilyn Monroe died, Grace Kelly had retired. There really was the old stars really weren't making films anymore. Care Grant himself only had two films L in them at this point. And you've seen it It's about a woman. Audrey Hepurn plays a woman vacationing in Paris And u She's being pursued by crooks who are trying to get their hands on this money that her husband stole. And she meets Carrie Grant in a love story happens between them in spite of the fact that he was twenty five years older. And is Walter Mathow Walter Math playing a villainous guy. Yeah, Walter Mathow' in it. Ned Glass is in it. Yes No Glass I remember. Can you get it wrong, J? James Coburn U James Colburn in this that what I remember is him confronting her And lighting matches. cororrect And throwing at her. cororrect. And at her tauntingly. Correct U It was it's a terrific picture. It's it's basically I don't know what you would call it. It's kind of a screwball suspense Zumps There was a twenty five year age difference between Grant and Audrey Hepburn and he went to the screenwriter, Peter Stone, also famous for writing the take the taking of Pelum one twenty three, which so Math How, which that's right, which we've talked about. Yeah. Walter Mathow and Jerry St. That's right. And supposedly Grant went to the writer, went to Peter Stone and he felt awkward that he was twenty five years older than Hepburn Yeah So he said I would feel more comfortable if her character did the pursuing. And you know write me a couple of lines about our age differences, about our age differennce, a couple of jokes which they did. And as I said, Grant only made two extra movies, two more movies after that. It's a terrific film, Great Paris locations I saw it recently. It holds up beautifully. I remember there's a part where I think it's Math now He's following Audrey Hepburn and it's outside behind these pillars. That's right And I remember Matt Don't give anything away. Yeah. two people haven't seen it. I was shown in that prison cpe and there was nothing to kill the panes. That's the one And it's funny he he gives a great he was a great dramatic professor. Absolutely. But it's now when you see math out, you laugh. You you think of Oscar Madison and the fortune cookie and Yeah and the suunshine and the Sunshine boys, right. Yeah. he's he's he's a he's he's very good in the in the part Um Ands it's got a great cast, great locations. Like I said, great Henry Mancini score and Henry Mancini He also has a past of doing like the kind of movies we talk about. on the Amazing Colossal podcast, which is He he used to do scores for these crappy sci fi movies And that's where he got his whole beginning That's true. Yeah, That's true. Now this is there's a criterion edition of this DVD on DVD. getet it. It's really the way to see the picture. Don't don't don't don't watch the remake, which was made by Jonathan Demy. I love Jonathan Demy, but it was remade as the truth about Charlie. Mark Wahlberg. Yes and Mark Wahlberg is not Crie Grant In fact, Peter Stone, the writer hated the remake so much that that he took the screen credit Peter Joshua, which was Carry Grant's character. Yes because he didn't want to put his name on. Oh wow. What else can I tell you about it? It's just a terrific film Uh, Audrey Hepburn is great. Grant is great. It was again, it was one of his last pictures charade also called it's referred to as the best Hitchcock picture that Hitchcock ever made. Yes. And most importantly, Carry Grant was Jewish. Is he? Yes. Th this I didn did know. Grant was Jewish. This I did not know. Yeah, one of the handsomest Jews. How did this not come up and we had to tell on the show and I lear about who was Jewish and who wasn't Jewish It would have been in our chart. Yes. Cary Grant. Wow A little unknown English Jew Reggie, what was his name? Archibald Leachch? Yes. Yeah And your film this week, sir. Okay. Also a film I talked about on Turner Classic movies Oh yeah, when you were the essentialwn And that's a great seventies film the conversation. starring Gene Hackman If I remember the poster correctly, I always love the blurbs on posters and I think the poster said Harry Cole is the best in the business. Right. Three people are already dead because of him. Right. Harry Coall CA you el. I remember. I remember Cindy Williams and young Cindy Williams and Harrison Ford. Yeah, a very young Harrison Ford. R Pling his part a little eff femininely. Yes. like just thought. Yeah, that was his I that was Harrison Ford's idea that he works for this company and he wanted to play it effeminentately And he says, interesteresting. You know, try some of those cookies I bakeed them and Also in the movie, well, it's also Brian Garfield. Oh Alan Garfield. Al Garfield. get him. Who became Alan Growitz? Yes, yes. He was in a lot of seventies pictures And also John Casal. That's right. And it's funny. John Cassal Um madeade like five movies in his career. All iconic. Yes, he died young. But the five moves were the conversation Godfather one Godfather two. Dog day afternoon And Der hunter And the deer huntter. Right. What what a run. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, every film were major. Terrific actor Died young. Yeah said. And so the conversation has to do with the whole paranoia, the whole watergate ideas things Because he's a bugging expert. That's right And It's like Gene Hackman can only deal. It's like he's antisocial and could only deal with people that he's listening in on. Right. That's his only connection. Right. He's sort of a prisoner of his of his profession. Yes. He's trapped and then it bec then the story becomes a question about his conscience And and um there's a bit of film noir. Oh yeah in it certainly Robert Duval turns up Oh yeah, Robert Duval. Yeah And it was Francis Ford Cob off course. It's a creepy picture. Yeah and it holds up. I just saw it And it's one of those, as you say, one of those paranoia thrillers of the seventies like Th Days of the Condor and all the presresident's men parallax view which is one I love. And oh yes. and it gives you there's that chilling feeling. I can't I can't talk about it too much without giving Yeah stuff away, but I mean, just incredible. A wonderful picture Yeah. and when Coppola was really on a roll. that he had directed that in the two Godfather pictures and apocalypse now all in the same decade And I think this one came out the same year as Godfather two. That sounds that sounds right. I'm going to say seventy four. Yeah. so Godfather two knock this out of the ballpark right was R. That was major. right Terrificversations definitely worth saying. Terrific picture. So look so this week, the conversation Francis Fort Coppola and Charade. And they're both available I mean, TCM runs the conversation all the time. Oh yeah. Was Robert surprised by your picks Oh, did you pick a conversation? Again, you didn't pick a comedy. Yeah, they mentioned that on it. They said, I picked Oie's films The swimmer, right off mice and men, freaks and the conversation. Right. Nothing with even a giggle. That's you. That's just Nothing with even a smirk Each one ending tragically. This you're such a tragic figure Anyway so it was charade With Carry Grant and Audrey Hepberg. Carry Grant, the Jew, Carry. That shocks me. I have to do a little internet research now. I'm a Jew Judy.. Judy Judy Judy. I'm a big Judie Jud. The things I learn from you. Oh ye D't sh me That Harry Grant Asra Canter He to He Mich G you say C. That's tal rest. Yes ening to comedy, try watching it on the internet. folks behind the Sideshow network have launched a new YouTube channel called Wait for it. It's got interviews with comedians like Reggie Watts, Todd Glass, Liza Schleisinger, Slicing, I've been friends with her for ten years. 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