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Hey hey listeners! You are going to love this brand new episode of Go Fact Yourself, and we'd love to have you be there for our next live audience shows. comoming up on Saturday, june twenty seventh at the Crawford in Pasadena with scheduled guests, writer Jemele Hill and actor Nico Santos After that, we're in Pasadena again on july seventeenth and twenty sixth For the latest info and tickets, go to gofactorpod. com And now here's more of me. Are you a real know at all Do you annoy your family by shouting the answers while watching Jeopardy? Do you drive people crazy? When you start a sentence with Well, actually. Well guess what? You can go f yourself Hellone welcome to Go Fact Yourself, the show where we quiz the smartest people we know and find out why they love what they love. I'm Helen Hong Now from the Crawford at L.AS in Pasadena, here's our moderator, Jakeie Fetstat. Hey, thank you so much Hey everybody. Hello, Helen. how are you? I'm very well, JK. Now, Helen, you've been out bringing your stand upp comedy to the fine people across the nation. I understand that's been going very well for you. It's been going well. I travel all over the country to do standup and sometimes I learn Gen Z slang. How does that happen? From people that come to either the people that come to my shows who are slightly younger than me, only slightly, or the staff of the clubs. And recently I had a twenty two year old server at a comedy club, come up to me after a show I did great. And she came up to me and tapping two of her fingers together, she said, pereriod baddy And I was like, what? Yeah? And she said, Perry, I Batie And I was like, what is that is that a good thing? She actually had to explain it to me. And what does it mean? Period means mic drop, no more needs to be said. You did great. Baddy, I'm assuming means you notorious human And then this little tapping of the middle finger in the thumb is the Gen very low key, low energy way of clapping. A. This is how much energy the Gen Z has to clap. They can't even put two hands together. That is the effort we've come to expect. Yes.es. Well, hell, and all I can say to that is six seven? I don't know. I'm not exactly sure, notot exactly sure what happens. All right, Helen Hong, everybody. Well, today on GoFact Yourself, two guests will compete to answer questions about facts they know, facts they may not know, and frankly, facts they should know. Plus, we'll meet actual experts on two very different topics. And finally, we'll declare one of our guests the winner of today's show. Let's get started and meet today's guest, Helen, who do we have playing tonight? They are an actor and improvisor known for dropout TV's very importantportant Pe and the Paccoock series on and he is an actor and podcast host, known for his roles as Jonah on Vep and Sasha on Netflix's Nobody Wants This. It's Vic Michayis and Timothy Simons. T Oh o, little feeling pretty good. a little fakeout with the handshake there from V. Well, you know, we were friends backstage and now we're competitors.. So I don't think about it like that. I just think of it that this was my friend and she changed the tone. And so I feel pretty good about my chances of winning with that attitude. Yeah. You know sometometimes one of the guests will try to help the other guest get answer right Not seeing that happening tonight, though, If you want to help me, you're more than welcome to help me. I think ultimately at the end of the day, I'm gonna be a good person. Oh excellent, I will help. Well, Vic, I first came to know you because YouTube happily fed me clips from the show that you do called Very Import People. I'm so sorry. No, no, It is absolutely delightful. So for those who haven't seen it, the basic concept is is that an improvisor is put into extensive hair, makeup, and costumes without knowing what they will end up looking like. And then after they see themselves for the first time, they have to create a character right on the spot who is then interviewed by you. Oh. It's really's concept. Yeah, it's very high level. Thanks so much. It came from like an old you know, college humor, an old college humor sort of like short series that they did for YouTube called Hello My Name is with two incredible comedians, Josh Rubin and Pat Castles. and Josh was the one that was constantly getting in hair and makeup and so we sort of le it now we get to work with a bunch of differentroisers. So you could come out as Abraham Lincoln or a Surf. I gott to write these down. Yeah. could Ellen is in. Well for those who haven't seen it, can you describe exactly how extensive that process is 'cause it's not just slapping on a wig and a funny nose. Yeah, so as of last season, season two, we start doing facial scans of the improvisors that come in a couple of days beforehand that way they can like custom build prosthetics to their faces. Paul F Tomkins who did an episode in season two was in the hair and makeup chair for five. hours turning into a midnight louse, which What is the budget of this show way less than you would Turning into a what? It was a midnight louse, he was. We're so lucky. We have A her own Louse. Yes. I'm not gonna let that go. You might as well say what a midnight likeike a single lice. You gotta watch Heller. Yeah ye. I'm gonna send you a clip. J my understanding a midnight louse is the person that might offer a handshake and then take it away at the last mom. W. It it. I don feel good about it. He's not over it. Not over it Tim, nobody wants this season two hugely popular. Sent so much time op Netflix series for like quite a few weeks. Similar to OVep, you work with so many funny people, so many talented people. how the experiences been similar or different I think that well, there's a lot less swearing on Nody Ws this. And I think like honestly the biggest I haveve been very lucky in that I've been able to work with incredible and supportive ensembles. And with Nobody Ws this, that is is not different. A smaller group, there aren't as many people, but very supportive every you know kind of everybody there has your back, which is incredible But one honestly, the biggest difference is that or at least I hope that I play a character that all the other characters don't want to leave as soon as they show up. Like I previously played a person that most people like love to hate. and now I think it's kind of nice to just play a person that people like because they kind of like. and that's a nice experience to not just be down resoundly hated by every single person you're in a scene with. You're not the human version of Iill Yeah, no Well I mean, for some people, I certainly am. Yeah, but it's not for everyone as was Bious. Do you miss being insulted on such a regular basis? I got enough of it. Yeah, it was. Well, we'll get to chat with you twobe more a little bit later, but we did ask each of you to provide us with a few topics outside your field of work that you know and love Vic, for you said that was the movie Twister. Y. The twenty eleven Tony Awards Yes, and LegOos. Whereas Tim for you you said it was the TV show The Wire, Chicago Theater in the two thousands, and Tiger Woods. Later on, we'll ask each of you some in depth trivia questions about one of those topics. But first, we're going to get your thoughts on something you might know nothing about. It is time to split some hairs with our What's the differeifference round? We'll have one question for each of you. eachach worth up to two points, and of course the other person has a chance to steal Your topic today, human beings. First up in human beings is Vic with human. Vic, your question comes from a listener. who is it, Helen? It's from Tony Trong of Huoneyson Beach, California. Listeners, if you'd like to submit a suggestion for our What's the difference round, go to goofactorpod dot com and click on get involved. All right, Vic, Tony asks, while both represent ways we want humans to behave What's the difference between a humane act and a humanitarian act? Humane and humanitarian? They sound so similar. Yeah. Not at all. Oh, really, not even at all. Because here's what I'll say. Okay. Humane would be something that you would do for One person, whereas a humanitarian act would be something that you would do for lots of people. M that's a good answer. Yeah. S with confidence. Yeah. I wasit that period was just sort of dangling, waiting to fall into space. I feel really good about that an that help my point periodady period bad. Thank you so much.. All right, we've got Vic's answer. We don't know yet if they're right. Anything you'd like to add or change, Tim? Well, I mean, I think it goes along with the same thing. humane act is when I do an act of kindness for one individual, but my humanitarian work is very different. Yes in which way. And that is when I provide goods and services for my community. I need to frame everything through what I do. Of course, Yes. How else could you possibly understand? It came up before that I'm an actor. So this is the only way that I can really like you know see these things You told us backstage not to have the same answer, and my man eye spiraled and gave the exact same answer I did notice it was strikingly similar. Do you wantna try again by adding or changing anything to what Vic said? No. Okay This segment is becoming inhumane. Let's go to Helen Hall at the judgees' table for the facts. Here are the facts. A humane act comes from one human individual for the benefit of another individual, human or otherwise. And being humane is a personality trait of an individual who is motivated by kindness A humanitarian act comes from a human individual or an organization for the benefit of a group of people and only people rather than an individual. And its motivation may come from being kind or from looking for a tax break. Yes. That's right The Humane Society, for instance, is a nonprofit, which helps ensure animals are treated well. It's actually a bit of a misnomer because it's not an individual motivated by kindness. It's an organization that offers tax deductions. So it should be considered humanitarian, but improving the lives of animals improves the lives of people. so maybe it is humanitarian. The point is they should just call themselves the society Helen, how did our guest do? So Vic, I'm gonna give you a point a half because you did get the one person versus a group of people portion, but you didn't get the non human slash animal portion, and you also didn't get the motivation portion. So I yeah, a point a half. P point a half for Vic. Thank you so much Alright, up next in human beingans is Timothy. Tim. Wh they both might be eaten by humans, what's the difference between soybeans and Edamame? Soybeans and edamame. A soybean is what is grown in the field And Edamame is what it becomes when it is steamed and covered with salt and given to you as like an appetizer for your kids that doesn't want to eat sushi. Like that so that's what Edamame is in a soy like I'm trying to think of what like analogous thing would be. like Cn is not corn bread cororn is what you grow in a field corn breread is what you do when you put it through the process, if that makes sense. It does make sense. ye. Okay. All right, we've got Tim's answer. Don't know yet. if he's entirely correct. Vic, what do you think? I think this is wrong, but I'm gonna say something different, which is that it's like Edamame is when it's in the pod still, maybe and soybean is the physical like bean inside that then can turn into the product. All right, well this segment needs to pick up the tempe. It's making me so bored. Let's go to hell and hauling at the judge' table for the facts. Here are the facts. Soy beans are mature, tan colored, hardened beans that are used as an ingredient in foods and many other products. Eamame are the exact same beans but before they ripen or harden. They're green, tender, and often eaten as is in Japanese restaurants. That's right. Now both are products of the same plant scientifically called glycine max. Soybeans are used to make everything from tofu to biodiesel, which to me taste about the same. Helen, how did our guests do Symoth, I think I'm gonna give you half a point because you did say for soybeans, they're grown in fields And u Yeah, I'm feeling generous. Half a boy for Tam All right, let's get to know our guest a little bit better. Vic, someome of your credits include work on TV shows, including Upload, Round and Round and ponies, over a dozen shows on dropout TV, including Make someome Noise, Game Changer, Dimension twenty, and of course being a producer and the host of very important people, where your clips have amassed several million online views Thank you. Now I want to point out that on very important people, you are the host of the show named Vic Michelis, but you are playing a character named Vic Michelis. Yeah. I would say the host character isn't like the nicest person. And you know, it was just one of those things where also just in little ways it was confusing people just becausecause it's an improvised show. so I didn't want to be married to having to I don't know, like be bringing too much of myself, I guess. And then also to after the first season, there was some talk of maybe rotating that host character in and out. and I sort of wanted to fuse myself so tightly to that show that it was impossible to hire somebody else to do my job. You have been quoted as saying, I'm going to make sure that I am so tied to the show that there's no way for them to fire me How did you go about doing that I just really I sort of bribed all of my friends to say that they wouldn't do the show.. I was coming back. You know, I think it's just we're very fortunate that Dropout gave us a lot of creative freedom in that show. So we outside of the clips on the platform itself have like arcs that we go through with the characters We sort of leave things a little untied at the end of each season. so Wonderful. Well, let's talk about ponies. It takes place in nineteen seventies Russia. and your character of Cheryl has a very nineteen seventies hairstyle, shall we say? How do you describe what that is and how does that inform the character that you play? Big loud. It's the hair and makeup that we shot in hungary I don't know what they're doing over there and what they're put what they put in my hair. It took like three or four hours to get my hair to look like that. but then at some there was one day I took a nap and I woke up and my hair looked exactly the same. down. They're doing it different over there in a way that is Incredible, magical. Yeah. Another thing that I have to bring up, I had never seen a Hallmark movie. And so I put out on Facebook, What should I start with? What Hallmark movie should I watch especially at the holiday time? And so many people recommended a movie called Round and Round starring Vick Michelis. you're the star of a Hallmark movie. It is my favorite thing I've ever done. It's on my bucket list. It is on my buck. a Hallmark movie? You gota. But what's amazing about it is it's great. It's such a great movie. I was expecting some to be so much cheesier. and you know I've seen parodies and you see people making jokes about Hallmark movies, but it's a legitimately great movie. How do you feel being on the top rated Hallmark holiday movie? And how do you feel about the fact that it's about Hanukah Amazing. I feel so good about that. We need more Hanukah representation in the holiday movie sector. So I was really thrilled to be a part of that. yeah, it just it was so fun. I was really lucky. I worked with Brian Greenberg on that who has been doing it forever and it was my first big thing that I'd done. And so I was just there to say yes and do exactly what I was told. Well, I highly recommend it. And last I want to ask you about The bio that I received to get to know you in research for the show ends with a sentence theirir dad is very proud of them. Yeah. What's that like Oh man. Honestly, I was raised by a single And I think it is the only reason that I have the level of sort of like delusional confidence that I have now is he just sort of didn't know what else to do, so kind of told me I could do absolutely anything. And I really took that to heart in kind of maybe a problematic way. That seems very lovely. Well Timothy, your credits include movies like Inerent Vice, The Interview Scream Seven TV shows including The Handmaid's Tale and seven seasons playing Jonah on Vep, for which you won a screen Actors's Guild Award, and Sasha on Nobody Wants This, for which you've been nominated for a Critics's Choice Award. Well, on Nobody Wants This, This character of Sasha, you mentioned that Sasha is someone that is more like than say Jonah was, but I was actually surprised to read that it's a very polarizing character. I've seen articles that are titled Why Sasha is the best Character on Nobody Wants This, and literally another article that says, whyy Sasha is the worst character on Nobody Wants This. That's funny, I've read that first one. I've never heard of., I'm sorry to bring that up You probably have a better pub of this who only gives you the good ones. But have you enjoyed the response of people thinking that, o, this guy's a mench? I mean, I kind of like I said before, it is nice. You don't like to think that some of these things will transfer into your real life that Somebody would be like, oh like he's just a bad person and I don't like him. It is nice to be able to show people that like, no, I can actually just be like a nice person too. Wait, did you get that from Vep? Like did people come up to you and be like, I think' Yes or people being very surprised that I was kind in any way. But like I remember when the show right before the show came out. I remember this very clearly. My wife, who is here We were listening to Patton Oswald on K Rock Morning Show like Kevin and Bean, and he was saying that he had just seen a pilot and he was talking about how much he liked the show. And it wasn't even it was before it' even come out And he said there was this one person on that show That he must be a nice man because if he was anything like this character, he would have been beaten to death with a shot like by this point. So I think it doesn't happen as often as you would imagine because people are like, oh, if he was this bad, he wouldn't have survived long enough to be in this show. Well, you do a rewatch podcast of Vep with Matt Walsh What does that experience like for you rewatching these episodes from now several years ago? It was fun. We have sort of completed that in the vibe of the odast because Walsh and I just found that we enjoyed it, is we now just like we pick movies that have a president or a vice president in them and we examine the sort of internal and external politics to see if the politics of the time, how they were informed in that movie. And that sounds high minded. We're really just two very dumb men who watch Death Race two thousand and then talk about it It was fun to revisit because the experience of working on that show was incredible. We were all very tight. and so you know, there's like a nostalgia to it that was wonderful. and also like One of the amazing things about the writers that we had is that there were just, I've seen it a bunch of times and there were jokes that I missed. like they are very it's very joke dense and there were watching it Again, I was like, oh man, I didn't know that joke was in there. Last thing I want to ask you about, you're actually going to be giving a commencement speech at the University of Maine, which is your alma mater. Have you started thinking about what you're going to say and what the messages that you want to give to the young people of today? Thanks for bringing up that I haven't started writing. No, how do I I mean, how do I like really talk about the fact that they asked me to do the commencement speech, but it took me five years to graduate a four year program. And I mostly did psychedelics by the river. I think I think that's a great takeaway are gonna to come up in the speech. Yeah. I just I don't exactly know how what the pros is gonna. You're connecting with the kids. What school? The University of Maine thank you Wow, a lot of support coming really big you main fan. Not a big fan of the individual Timothy Simons, but when it comes love Main. Yeah it comes to the black bears, you're like, oh yeah, I'm up their hockey team. All right, well, thanks so much for being here both of you, Vic Michelis and Timothy Simons Ellen, what is our score heading into the break? Nick McKaylis has a point and a half, and Timothy Simondons has half a point. All right, but those scores are close. So close. I've never been so mad at one person in my life Well those scores are bound to change as we move on to questions about topics our guests have chosen for themselves, that's all up ahead and we come back on Go Factor sel. Hey, it's me again. Did you know that I tour all over the country doing stand upp? Yes, I do. and if I'm coming to a city near you, please come and see me and Bring me treats if you want. I love mini snickers. I will never say no to that I have upcoming dates in Pittsburgh, june nineteenth and twentieth in S. Louis, september seventeenth and Indianapolis, september eighteenth through twentieth. You can check out my Instagram page for more details on those. And yes, this is an ad for me. That's why I say thank you, Helen Ready to go. Kock knock. Wh's there? We got this. With Mark and Hal? you knew this one. You can't put that out as an ad. We just did new episodes every week on maximumfun dot org or wherever you get your podcast. Now it's humane and rock. Han and rock Yeah How do you hue something in Rck? With a chisel. There's only one hue in rock and it's Hueie Lewis And the news is, we got those of markarket Hs available every week on maximfund dot org. I walked right into that A Welcome back to G Fact Yourself with our guests, Vic Mcaylis and Timothy Simmons P. Thank you so much, Helen. Thanks everybody. All right, Vic, of your many interests, you told us that you know and love the Movie Twister, the twenty eleven Tony Awards, and LegOos. Let's find out a little bit more about each of those. First, tellell us why you know and love the Mvie Twister. It is the first movie that I snuck to watch. Like my friend, when I was living in Texas, I would have been like four or five or something like that. My friend's older brother, she was the youngest of five, had like a VHS combo player in his room And under his bed, he had a couple of like VHS cases and we picked one randomly and it was Twister. and we put it in and we watched it and I was like, I love this. You watched it when you were four or five? Yeah, I was really young. All right, next, tell us why you know and love the twenty eleven Tony Awards. That was the year I graduated in high school, so that was like the Tony Awards in the Theater club It was part of Toronto Youth Theater. It was like very, we were the first sort of youth theater to be given the adult rights to rent, which was a mistake. Yeah, it wasn't great. And we did hair the year after. All of it was not advised. I don't know who was overseeing this. We didn't get naked though. inststead, we did a stomp number during that part We wrote letters. But the awards themselves th? It just was very in the zeitgeist of like the theater community. Like we all got together and watched them and it was like a big topic of conversation with like everything that was happening there. And then finally Vic, tell us why you know and love Legos. They're great All right, and All right, well, to summarize, Vick you said you know in and love the movie Twister, the twenty eleven Tony Awards and LegOos, todayod we wantan to quizz you about the twenty eleven Tony Awards And by the way, we are speaking of the award ceremony that was broadcast in twenty eleven for the twenty ten twenty eleven Broadway season. Yes. Now, you're a fan of the awards themselves, the productions of the ceremony itself? Tell us more about that? I just I like the fanfare. I think it's like an award show that is doing what award shows are supposed to do, which is getting a bunch of theater kids in a room to sort of just like scream at each other Well, just ahead vic, we're gonna enlist the help of a bonaide expert in your topic with an expert level question, which's up to three points. But before that, we're gonna let you show your love even more with five trivia questions about your topic, each worth one point.. If you want it, you're allowed hint for me two of these five questions. Amazing. Now, Tim, do listen closely because if Vic gets any incorrect, you could steal, by the way, Tim, how much do you know about the twenty eleven Tony Awards? As much as Vic told me backstage Which honestly was a lot. Yeah, which is a fair amount. I just kind of screamed fs at Tim backstage. I admire her enthusiasm. It was infectious. Excellent. Well, we'll see if that pays off for Vic or for you Here iss question number one. The big winner at the twenty eleven Tony Awards was The Book of Mormon, which won nine Tonies and is still playing on Broadway today. It's even more amazing that this is the first and only Broadway show for its co creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, who were better known for their work on what animated comedy central show that also satirized Mormonism and just about everything else. South Park South park, South Park. Ellen. That is correct. That is correct. yes, Mer good. I'm gonna to get the next one years. Fun fact, Tray Parker won a record four Ton's that night. Best book, best score, best direction, and as a producer, best musical. Mattin Tray co wrote Book of Mormon with Robert Lopez, who appeared on episodes fifty nine and seventy six of Go Factorselfelf. And in one of his acceptance speeches, Tray thanked another co writer Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon Church. Here is question number two The annoyingly multi talented Neil Patrick Harris didn't just host and perform as himself. He also played Bobby or Robert, or Robbie, alongside John Cryer, Stephven Colbert, and Pattty Lapone in an excerpt from what Stehven Sondheim musical, known for the songs Side by sideide and Being Alive U Company? Helen. That is correct. That is correct for the point. Fun fact, Pattty Lapone would later reprise her role of Joanne in the twenty twenty one Broadway Revival of company, Neil Patrick Harris would go on to win his own Tony Award a few years later for Hedwig and the Angry Inch. You're two for two Vic, here's question. Num three. While most of the acting categories had five nominees, the one for Best Play had four, so which one of the following plays was not nominated for a Tony that year Was it Warhorse people Jerusalem, God of carnage, or this is gonna be just for the podcast version, The Mother with the hat Hm, I'm gonna say good people. Helen? That is not correct. No, I'm terribly sorry, Tim with a chance to steal I want to say that it's the Mother with the hat only because I want to make sure that on this NPR show, the Mother with a hat has said so many times that it makes the national public radio audience unhappy. But I think I am gonna go God of Carnage because and this is based on nothing I assume that I feel like James Gandalfini was in that production. And so I think maybe it was one of those ones where like, oh, we're going to get this insane cast for this four person show and Gandal Fe's going to be in it and it's going to be Yeah maybe he was in the movie I could be wrong about this. Well, I know I'm wrong about this I think that they swung big for stars and the production was not as good so it was left off. That's why I'm gonna say God of Carnage and not the mother with a hat So again, your answer is God of Carnage. Helen? That is correct. That is correct. Yes. Wow.ice Nice. Congratulations. Your logic was a little off though. That's I'm not surprised. Fun fact, Warhorse won for Best Play and four other awards that season. God of Carnage was nominated and won, but two years earlier All right, let's see if we can bounce back with this one vic curious question. number four. You still have your hints available. Here we go. Of the eight people to win acting awards at the twenty eleven Tonys, six of them were Broadway veterans, but two won for their Broadway debuts. Who are either of these performers? one from a musical and one from a play? May I have a hint. Helen, how about that first hint He won four consecutive Emmys for Nightcourt. She won one for a TV movie, but is better known for the films' The Big Easy and Sea of Lve. Oh no. Okay, so I'm going to go you'll need one. Oh, okay, so it'll be the best supporting canan I give you I can't remember his name, but I can give you the show and the category It'll be best Spporting actctor for How to Succeed in businessus and his name kind of is like Jonathan Lithgo, but it's not that Tellen That is not correct. No, I'm terribly sorry Tim with a chance to steal. Is it John Laricette? Tellen? That is correct. Another steal from Tim Do not come for a Nightcourt fan because they will miss. Do you know fromom what I understand, John Larquette won so many Emmys for Nightcourt that he actually took himself out of the running. He was like, I have won too many of these and I will keep winning them. so he took himself out of consideration. Yes, I can relate to that. Humanitarian. Very humanitarian. Y humane. All right, that's another successful steal for Tim, but let's see how you do on this last one, Vick. You do still have a hint available. Here we go. In addition to the competitive Tony Awards we've been asking about, the American Theater Wing also handed out special Tony Awards, but they didn't just go to people What Manhattan Business received a Tony Honors for Excellence in Theater Award, even though it is not primarily a theater. Oh, so it's not the Schubert orrganization. H. Hint Helen, how about that hand It's existed for over one hundred years and has over eight thousand plays regularly in stock It is that drama bookstore, I remember and I can't think of what the name would be. It's like the drama hutch. Yeah. But it is book book of Play you were closer earlier. It is what kind of a store? It's it's a play store. It's like a But the way you said it before was store? The way you said it before drama It's a drama store. But what the script store? But what are these things that they sell? No, no, what are the You said it before. It's the word buy It's the word buy back book That so together it would be a drama book ? And let's put it all together for the radio. drama bookstore. I'll give it to you. Yes, it's a drama book shop. The drama books shop D drama Bookshop I I said that so many times. I whispered it. Yeah. Y, very quietly. Fun fact, Drama Bookshop is now co owned by Lyn Manuel Miranda and Thomas Cale, who wrote the rap number that summarized and closed the twenty eleven Tony Awards. They wrote that backstage during the show Yeah, it is incredible to watch on YouTube. I recommend it All right, you ended up doing pretty well in that round Vic, but now here is your expert level question that requires multiple answers. It is time for your cluster fact We'll be bringing on an expert to discuss your response. Vic, the twenty eleven Tony Awards kicked off with a hilarious song celebrating how Broadway isn't just for gays anymore. A song so good, its's writers won an Emmy Award for it. The performance was led by the annoyingly talented host, Neil Patrick Harris and featured some cameos by celebrities joining in from the audience. For up to three points, how many times had Neil Patrick Harris hosted the Tony Awards before opening the show with that song We'll give it to you within two Next, what actor and former model messed up her part of the song multiple times, though the songwriters say it wasn't her fault? And for what musical based on a John Waters movie, did the song's Emmy winning writers Adam Slesinger and David Javrebaum receive a Tony nomination at the two thousand eight Tony Awards? Okay, we will go with two Mhm Christine Brinkley and bewitched. And bewitched The John Waters film made into a musical nominated for a tone. Starring Nicole Kidmin and Will Ferrell. All right Well, Helen is taking note of those incredible answers. We have an expert on hand who can tell us for sure. Helen, who do we have tonight? Joining us tonight is a Tony nominated and Grammy winning writer whose thirteen Emmy awards include one for co writing the opening number to the twenty eleven Tony Awards, It's David Javerbaum. David Javberbaum I Hello, David than so much for joining us. It wonderful have. Well, my goodness, David, you are a Harvard graduate with an MFA in musical Theater composition from NYU. You've written books, shows for Broadway, TV for David Letterman, James Cordon, and Stephen Colbert, songs for recording artists including Willie Nelson, Elvis Costello, John Legend, Toby Keith, and Kristen Chenwith. You've been nominated for two Tonys, won two Grammy Awards and thirteen Emmys, eleven for the Daily Show with Johon Stewart, and two for songs from the Tony Awards And I'm still desperately unhappy. Oh It's not enough, is it? No. Well Well, David, you seemed as surprised as anyone that this was Vic's topic. I was like a human being said his or her area of expertise Was the twenty eleven Tony Award. I asked you three times Yeah for clarity. And apparently you l. I have a fan. You have a fan your work. Yeah. You wrote them and even you were like, that isn't even something I'm interested in my area Y Yeah. But it takes me back. it was a blast. was. How often are you asked about the twenty eleven Tony Awards? That song is popular on YouTube and I, get people asking about it from time to time. It was great, great, great experience Well, we'll talk about that in a moment, but the Daily Sh is not known, let us say for its musical numbers. No Is it a totally separate writing skill, writing lyrics than writing Daily Sh? Talk about that. Totally. And both worlds are kind of far into the other world and don't understand how I'm interested in the other world. They're very different skills. So I never tried to put musical theater stuff in the Daily S show. It wasn't right for that show. But I like musical stuff in other ways and that's one way. so I do it, I do it know that's about That's about rhyme and meter and getting as much as you can at a small area if possible, the lyric where You know, Daily show was just jokes, you know, that more traditional try to swing a little bit past Johon Stewart likeike, hey, you need a little shimmy shake I actually turned down and I said we shouldn't do a number actually at one point. I just it wasn't right for the show. It just wasn't right for the show Well, you worked for a long time with the late Adam Schlesinger, who a lot of people will know from his work with Fountains of Wayne, his songs on Crazy ex girlfriend. How was it that you two connected to collaborate together? We connected on Try Baby, as a matter of fact, which apparently you loved. I love cry baby. That's what I said, right? Messy. We were match madeade on that show Cry Baby. We hadn't met before and we got along like gangbusters. We worked together for twelve years after that. That the song being one of those things that we did together. And we b the whole Stehven Colbert Christmas album. that was our other Mmy that we won, which is really good. And a whole bunch of other songs and we were we were great. And then, you know, he passed away in twenty twenty and it's just like with one of the worst things and stupidest tragic things, you know, he was just a brilliant brilliant guy and a real sweetheart. We're all very sorry for your loss, of course. How did you get involved with the Tony Awards? Neopatrick Harris reached out to us and said, you guys are really funny. I want to do a funny song opening the Ton'. So we met with him and I just thought, what's a Perfect. I like being very bespoke. I like writing exactly what's right for that particular occasion. So what would be good for him? that would be funny, that would be U. It would be memorable. And it came up with several ideas, and not just for gays anymore, it was one of them. and he liked it. And we went with that And it was very memorable. One thing I remember about it was that we really wanted to keep it a secret joke because it would have been spoiled. So to the extent that when we recorded the backing track the night before, I had to write an entire dummy lyric to give to the orchestra so that it would not leak. Do you remember what it was? I wish I had it, but instead of saying, it's not just for Daze anymore, it was tonight at the Tony which and it was I really wish I'd kept that. Yeah. But but that was yeah, that was really fun. And then also in Dross rehearsal, the last line that was written was come in and be inspired, there's no same sex love required. And then But Deal that I knew it was going to happen for real. So for real live, he said, come in and be inspired, there's no sodomy required. And that was better. Yeah that was better Yeah. And how did CBS feel about that? CB could Can't travel back in time to Exactly. doesn't matter what you think. Yeah. Last I want to ask you about you are no stranger to trivia shows like this one. Tell us about your jeopardy experiences as a younger man. I was a teenager. I was sixteen. I was on the teen Jeopardy tournaments back in the day And I made it to the finals and I lost by one dollar Wha No. But then you got to come back ten years later for sort of a reunion of that show. That's correct. I made to the finals and I didn't lose by a dollar I'm glad I lost. Oh And nothing has gone right since. Is this was that your villain origin story you' relying on? It is. I'm going make it to the Tony. I swore revenge on the world. And you got it by entertaining them. Yes. Yeah.. All right. Well let's get to the reason we brought you here as far as our game is concerned. You heard the questions that we asked the Vic F first you wanted to know how many times had Neil Patrick Harris hosted the Tonys before that fabulous opening number. Helen, what did Vic say? Vic said two. And David? one. It was one, but that is within our range. so that was a point for me. V nice. All right, next, we wanted to know what actor and former model messed up her part of the song multiple times. th the songwriters say it wasn't her fault. Helen, what did Vic say? Vic said Christine Brinkley. And David Brookshields. It was Broold. I said Oh, really? Yeah. because it sounded like Christieine I was like, Oh, it's Bo Sield. Yeah, which I think you meant Christie Brinkley. And I meant oh, Christie Broo Shields. Christie Brookshield. Yeah it is you're gonna to hear and it' all there. It's all gonna be there. All right. I'm sorry, no point there. But it did go viral and you wanted to come to her defense on that. Yeah, that was our fault. You know, she was sicking over a vamp as were the other two, and we should have had like a clear in on the vamp and we didn't. And it was very confusing for her or anybody to come in. and unfortunately, now it looks like she flubbed the line. It really was not her fault at all. And she presented later in the show and seemed to have a good sense of humor about it, though. She was great. Yeah. she's awesome. All right. And then finally we wanted to know for what musical based on a John Waters movie, did the songs Emy winning writers, Adam Fleleschinger, and someone named David Davverbaum receive a Tony nomination a few years earlier. Helen, what did Vic say Vic started with hair, but ended with bewitched. And David, Vic was just kidding because we were talking about cry baby before the show. How many hes did you see cry babyine Ten times, ten Yeah fifteen twenty times. Yeah. she was supposable. Cry baby cry. It was cry baby. I'm sorry, no point there, but a wonderful show. I got to see that. I was It was at the Marquee if I recall correctly. That was part of the problem now. wasas it really? Can I how do you mean by that? It's huge. Yeah. it's pretty big. It's enormous enormous theater and that show does not want an enormous theater. R. It was cavernous. Vic, while we have our expert here. Is there anything you want to ask or say? The thing that you've written or the piece of music you've written that you're most proud of They're all like my children, so first two And you have any plans for a bewitched musical at any point? Okay, great. All right. What about Twister? Anything Twister or tornadoes involved? No, no, Yes, but the game, Twister. You p I got a great idea. I'll pitch you later. All right, great. Well, David it's been so lovely that you joined us if people want to find out more about you or what you're up to, where can they do that? They can do that at davidjaerbam dot com dot I have a lot of lyrics there actually. You can check those out And I'm doing a bunch of other things that hopefully you'll be hearing about soon And in the meantime, I'm doing this and having a great time. and thank you for having me. Thank you so much for being here, David Jamerbau Helen, what is our sport at the end of that round? At the end of that round, Vick McKaylis has five and a half points, and Timothy Simons has two and a half points with a round of questions for Timothy coming up. That's right. we're gonna talk with Timothy about a topic he knows about. Plus later, Vic and Tim will go head to head in our fast facts round all to find a winner on Go Fact yourself Wonderful is a podcast where we talk about things we like. That's hard to sell in a promo like this, so we've enlisted the help of piano Rock superstar Billy Joel to tell you about some of the topics we've covered. Take it away, real Billy Joel! Cy Rcksin on L sign, Worstonsshire, Circle Time, Seg good drinkass se's a sad tower of A nord. Keep me upy time capsules, Wayne's, World cheese Bulls, Wallace, St evenven, Stonky Gong, funun size almmentjoy They didn't start the fodcast. Except that's not true. They didn in twenty two. They didn't start the fodcast. No, they actually did. That wast fact a fil. Listen to Wonderful everyvery Wednesday on maximumfund dot org or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks, real, Billy Joel. No problem, Griffin ract yourself with our guests, Vic Michelas and Timothy Simon. Once again. Thank you so much, Alen. thank you everybody. All right, Tim, of your many interests. You told us that you know and love, the TV showh The Wire, Chicago Theater in the two thousands, and Tiger Woods. Let's find out a little bit more about each of those. First, tellell us why you know and love, the TV show The Wire. I've seen it all the way through I think three or four times. It was one that I missed when it first came out And everybody had told me it was incredible. and I even tried to start watching it twice and it never took. I think I got to the end of the first episode, but there was one moment I remember right after we moved to Los Angeles where I was like, I'm going to try this one more time. And there's a there's a scene it's the opening scene. It's like the cold open to the show where they talk about how Snot Boogie had would always join like the alleyway craps game and then at some point over the night, he would just grabble the money and run away and they would beat him up, But then one day somebody shot Snot Boogy And McNulty ased one of the witnesses like, well, if Snot Boogie would steal the money every week Why would you let him in the game? And the dude was just like, this is America, man. And I feel like the third time I saw that it clicked in of what that show was gonna be. All right. nextext, tell us why you know and love Chicago Theater of the two thousands. I was in Chicago. I moved there in two thousand three, moved out in two thousand eight Um, I met my wife there, we moved out to Los Angeles together, but I had moved out there to do indie theater and storefront theater. I wanted to someday audition for Steppenwolf. That was like the theater scene that I was drawn to. So I loved it. I loved being there. I was a set carpenter, not a very good one, but I did build sets. like I was around it in a way. All right. And then finally, tell us why you know and love Tiger Woods I grew up watch'm not I wasn't like a golfer growing up, but I think like everybody my age, I grew up watching Tiger Woods basically break the game over his knee. And it was fascinating to watch him. And I think in a way' he's sort of, as we've seen this week, he's a fascinating sort of tragic figure of a lot of mistakes in his personal life and the more and more you get into to him and what makes him tick and why he was so good at this one insane thing. he's a fascinating person. And I say that in the actual maybe the literal sense of the word. like his life has been fascinating and worthy of studying I also just love golf, golf rules. All right. Well, to summarize Tim, you said you know and love the TV show The Wire, Chicago Theater in the two thousands and Tiger Woods T todayoday we want to quizz you about The wire Oh than go. Now I know that fans of the show have strong opinions as to which one is the best season. What's your opinion on that? I would say I know a lot of people bag on the fifth, which is about the journalists. I think there's a lot of good stuff in there. I think mostly journalists bag on the fact that it's about journalists because they're like, this isn't right. And you know what I mean? I'm a really big fan of The first and the second Um, Although the fourth is really good about the school system. Yeah, they're all pretty good The Steve Dors Union one, I think the last time I watched it through that one stuck out to me like this whole Sabakka run. So I don't know. againgain, like all my children I love them all equally. I love them all one hundred percent. You don't split your love between children. You love all of your children with all of your heart. Well, just ahead, we're going to enlist the help of a bonafide expert in your topic of the wire. with a questQion wor're citing. With a question worth up to three points. But before that to let you show your love even more, here are five trivial questions about your topic each worth one point, if you want it, you'll let a hint for any two of these five questions. Now Vic, do listen closely because if Tim answers incorrectly, you could steal. byy the way, Vic, how much do you know about the wire? se ame All right. A I allowed to steal one of those hints? We'll see And Tim didn't shout facts at you backstage about the wire? he was too busy sort of getting info dumped about the twenty eleven. All right. Well, Tim, it looks like this is up to you. Here's question number one. The wire often featured graphic violence, explicit nudity, and lots of swear words. So it didn't run on network TV But instead on what cable channel that also aired a show, and I think I'm saying this right, called Vep. It was on HBO. Ellen, that is correct. That is correct. We're on our way. And a a fun fact that I kind of forgot to mention, one of the reasons I also love this is that Veep shot in Baltimore for four years. And so Like the last time I watched it, I had watched We O The City, which was a later show of David Simon and George Pelicanos. And it made me so nostalgic for being in Baltimore. and I was like, I'm gonna watch the wire again. I just miss Baltimore. Yeah. It it really shows Baltimore in all of its glory. Yeah ye. Well, fun fact, The wire followed another David Simon series on HBO about the people and drug markets of West Baltimore. The corner and several actors from the corner later appeared on the wire. The corner won a PBody and three Emmys. The wire also won a Pabody, but somehow won zero Emmys No Emm' was only nominated for two of them, hard to believe now. Here's question number two. Detective Jimmy McNulty has a habit of ruffling the feathers of the higher ups in the Baltimore Police Department, But those higher ups can get their revenge like when Sergeant J Landsman plays a part in getting Jimmy transferred to his last choice for a new unit, as we see in the beginning of season two Jimmy has to do his policing on what type of vehicle? O a boat. Helen? That is correct. That is correct, yes, on a boat She gets transferred to the Marine unit, the Marine unit. Yeah. Fun fact, the character of Sergeant Jay Landsman was based on a real person named Jay Landsman. That real Jay Landsman also appears on the wire as Lieutenant Dennis Mellow and was the basis for the character of Detective John Munch, played by Richard Belzer on Homicide Life on the Street, Law and Order, and more than ten other TV shows He inspired two completely different police characters. You're two for two, Tim, here's question number three. Portrayed by Michael K Williams, stick upp man Omar is such an intimidating character that folks in the neighborhood scatter when he approaches. They could tell when Omar's coming due to people shouting, Omar's coming. And also because they could hear him whistling, what tune? Is it the farmer in the Dow the foot Is that the farmer in the doough? Helen? That is correct. That is correct. Yeah. W. It also is a Hunting We Will Go, which I think is how they mean it more because he's on the hunt to shoot some drug dealers or stick up some drug dealers. And fun fact, the song A Hunting We Will Go dates back to seventeen seventy seven and also uses the same tune as a British football cheer called E I Audio. All right, you're three for three, here's Quion four. You do still have your hints available. Okay, great. The wire is full of criminals with colorful nicknames, or should we say tasty nicknames But which one of these food related nicknames does not belong to a criminal character on the wire Is it tater Jello, cheese, fruit, or puddin. Cheese was played by Method Man, so I know it's not cheese. so I know we're asking for the one that was not. Okay. So. this is helpful if you want to help eliminate it. So we're down to foural about we also had I ater. Jello You don't like cheese, fruit or puddin I'm leaning jello, but I think I'm going to ask for a hint All right, Helen, how about that first hint Putin is a character on the wire Oh, okay I think I' go I'm gonna go with jello because I think that one would have stuck out. Ellen. That is correct. That is correct. Very nice Fun fact, Tater and Herbert Derod Pudent Johnson were enforcers for Barksdale. Melvin Cheese Wagstaff, played by Method Man, was a dealer and nephew of Proposition Joe. Fruit was a crew chief for Stanfield, and they say there's always room for jello, but apparently not on the wire. All right, Tim, you have a chance to go five for five, you can get this question correct. You do still have a hint available The man who plays drug counselor Wayon is obviously very talented, but it may be less obvious that he shows off another talent on the show. What is his other credit on the wire in season five? Oh, he o my god, why am I going to forget his actual name? but he is a musician and so I'm assuming that means he wrote songs for it. You know, I'm gonna feel like everything is gonna be just fine in my life if I don't get this right, but I'm gonna ask for the hint. Ellen, how about that hint? On a previous season, this credit went to the Neville Bothers. Oh, he would have performed the theme song. Ellen. That is correct. Tim Simon is five for five Very nicefect Right Fun fact, The song Way Down in the Hole was written by Tom Waites who sang it in season two. Season two's closing scene is a montage over the song I feeleel Again, written and performed by Steve Earl, who plays Wayon. By the way, that song was also featured in the film Taladega Nights. Well, obviously did very well in that topic, Tim, but now here is your expert level question that requires multiple answers. It is time for your cluster factact We'll be bringing in an expert to discuss your response Tim, the character of detective Kema Greggs went through a lot on the wire, and in fact almost didn't make it. But she succeeded in her investigations, thanks in no small part to the relationship she cultivated with a confidential informant. For up to three points, how did Kima end up critically, but not fatally wounded during a drug bust gone wrong in season one? Next, by what one word name was her longtime confidential informant Reginald Cousins better known And what is Kema's full first name? She was shot in an ambush in an alley I Bubbles is his name And a shark All right, Helen is taking note of those answers. We have an expert on hand who can tell us for sure. Helen, who do we have tonight? Joining us tonight via Zoom from the back of an Uber is an award winning actor and filmmaker whose career includes playing detective Kema Greggs on the wire. It's Sona Son Hi Hello! How are you doing? This is so exciting. I'm doing okay, a little jet legged, but I'm hanging in here. Sonya, my goodness, some of your credits, you co starred and co wrote the film Slam, which won the Sundance Grand Jury Prize and the Camera Door Prize at Khon. You've been in films directed by John Singleton, Stehven Soerberg, and Martin Scorsesee And you've had TV roles in multiple episodes of Star Trek Discovery, The Chai, Will Trent, and of course, five seasons as Kima Gregg's on the wire And You mentioned you're a little jet lagged. It is extra special that you're able to join us tonight because you actually don't live in LA. Tell us what you're in town for. Oh, I'm actually becoming a grandma for the first time. Conggratulationsations. Congratulationses! Well, congratulations. That's very exciting and thank you for making time for us end during such an exciting time. Well, you are normally in Atlanta shooting a show called Will Trent that people may be familiar with. And again, on that show, you're playing someone in law enforcement, but you're playing a deputy director. How does playing someone in an administrator role comparing to playing a detective on the street like you did in the wire Oh, I like you so much better. Yeah. As an actor, the hours are better Yeah you're playing the boss baby. Yes. Come in push people around. But one way to look at it is Kema twenty five years in the future with a raise and a better wardrobe. Well, let's talk about the wire. Where were you in your life when the wire came along for you? Oh Lord, I was in New York at the time, you know, struggling, being a struggling actor, you know, we had I come off the off of slam two years earlier or a few years earlier. and it was crickets after the first year. So yeah, I was actually hustling. Yeah. The wire was actually your first TV job Yes, Wow It was the first TV show for a lot of us. That's why we became like family. A lot of folks were coming from different cities and different countries and landing in Baltimore and just getting into the work, you know, getting into the city. Not a bad gig, considering how many people call it the best show in the history of television. I feel very, very blessed. We all do. Yeah You'd said in an interview that it was a stretch trying to play a cop because of how you grew up. Can you talk more about that Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a memoir that I'm in the middle of writing. it'll probably be out next year and I'll go into more detail about it. But yeah, I, you know, I grew up in, you know, in the hood, you know, down in the south and just so Yeah, in the late sixties, early seventies, especially when tensions were very, very high between law enforcement and folks in the neighborhood. And you know, it took a lot of work and sort of like a full circle journey to be able to come through and play these characters, law enforcement characters And yeah, it's been a journey. It's been a lesson. and it's actually it's been a blessing Well, it's been about twenty five years since the wire premiered. What do you make of the fact that it's probably appreciated more now than when it was first on It's interesting. Um, Yeah, it's interesting. I think that we were in an era back then to be quite honest with you. they saw a bunch of black folks in the show and they really didn't respect the fact those people were acting And now we are twenty five years into the future and we realize, yes Michael B. Jordan was acting. You know, Andrew was acting. We were all acting. We didn't necessarily have the careers of. Idris and what's his say? Oh what's his say? why didn't just want to Oscar? Yeah, yeah. But even like Trey Chaney who played poop And the one who played Bodi JD like these were these were ongoing characters, but you might not see them in big shows, but they have ongoing acting careers. They're working actors, right? They're They're living off of off of off of what they do. And so I just feel like we were, you know, a lot of we just weren't respected back in those days. I think we were playing a characters that were very realistic and doing a great job at it quite frankly, especially a lot of those guys, you know, a lot of those young guys and those children Those were some well raised children Some of them were come from religious families People thought those kids in the fourth season were just, you know, kids we picked up off the street and they were. Well, it's wonderful to be reflecting on the wire with you and you're going to be doing some more reflecting. You're developing a podcast about the show Oh yeah, whyire f forive, Get ready It's Andre Royo. Wood Harris and myself So that's bubbles Avon Barksdale and Kema. And so we're going to do a sixty episode rewatch. We're going to go out through all the episodes, but we're also going to bring on some special guests, you know, folks that people might want to want to want to converse with. But you know, the show You know, we went through so much, you know, we had many, many good times, you know But as you know, you know, we've lost some some u very special family members, you know, from the a. So, you know, we went through a lot together. We went through you know, The good, the grief. and the aftermath, you know, we're twenty five years later and the wire is still relevant. And then in some ways it hasn't aged so well, right? Like so we've all matured, the show has matured. you know, additional lenses are here. Yeah. And so we want to we want to host a podcast that isn't just about us shooting. You guys are going to get all of it, the fun, the humor, you know, the secrets, the TT. but also, you know, we're going dive into what more can we bring to the wire because if if you're a Wire fan, you know two say. All the pieces matter Right? And so we're going And fresh eyes twenty five years in the future, right? realizing that all the pieces do matter.. And now there's some new pieces we can put together with with what we learn from what we learned from the show, right? So we're gonna have fun. You're going to learn the gossip, you know, the tea and the heartbreak. you know, there was some very you know, emotional moments, you know, walking away from the show loo cast. So all of that. Well, thanks for sharing some of that with us tonight. Let's get to the reason that we brought you here as far as our game is concerned. You heard the questions that we asked of Tim. First we wanted to know, how did the character of Kema end up critically but not fatally wounded during a drug bus gone wrong in season one. Helen, what did Tim say Timothy said she was shot with a gun. And Sonia Tim, you got that right. You got that right, That's a point for Tim. You got it right and then some. Next, we wanted to know by what one word name was Kema's longtime confidential informant Reginald Cousins better known, Helen, what did Tim say? Tim said bubbles. And Sona, you got that right? Got that right as well. Another point And finally we wanted to know what is Kema's full first name, Helen, what did Tim say? Tim said shark. And Sonia? I love Sharkkema. I wish she was Sharkma It' not him you got. No, I'm sorry. What is it, Sona? No, our baby is Sakima. Shakima. Oh very close, but not quite. Hey team, while we have Sona here, is there anything you'd like to ask or say? I have a quick one But it comes with a preamble. There was one time when Vep was on, I ran into Andre Royo at like an HBO party and I told him that I was about to be going out to Baltimore to work on a show there. and what should I do? Like where did he hang out? Like what's fun in Baltimore And Andre said, I don't know, man, just stay out of the strip clubs. And then and he walked away. I got no tips. So for the audience, do you have tips about what to do in Baltimore that aren't just stay out of the strip clubs? say I thought he was gonna tell you to go to the Odyssey base There was a there was just a little down home club on Baltimore Street called Odyssey It was just it was the place where they just hung out and they had drinks. so But you know what all that shut down now Baltimore, Baltimore gets a really bad rarap. It's a great town It' it's like a little Atlanta. I don't know if any of you have been in Atlanta, but it's a neighbor it's a it's it's a city, a small city of that has walk in neighborhoods. It's not as dangerous as people think. Go, visit. It's a wonderful town of great restaurants too.. A lot in love for Baltimore. A lot in love for Sonya Sone. We're looking forward to the podcast and the book. Sona Sone, everybody. Thankk you so much for being here Cellen, what is her score at the end of that round? at the end of that round, Vick Mcayelis has five and a half points and Timothy Simons has nine and a half points. Oh. What a comeback All right, but now it is time for our final round. We call fast factacts. I'll read ten statements and each contestant will answer with true or false. I'll start with Vic and then alternate. Each correct answer is worth one point. Again, please answer each statement with true or false. and we will go fast. Here we begin. Vic, Ella Fitzgerald was a singer. True, Correct? Timothy, she recorded over ten albums Correct. Yes, over two hundred. Vic, she won over ten Grammys. Tw? Correct. Yeahes, she won thirteen. Tim, she was the first woman to win a Grammy. Bse Correct. Vic, she was the first black woman to win a Grammy al Incorrect. No, she really was. Tim, she sang at a Super Bowl halftime show False. Incorrect. No, she really did. Vic, she was the first woman to sing at a Super Bowl halftime show. True. Incorrect. Tam she was the first black woman to sing at a Super Bowl halftime show True. Correct. Vic, she appeared in an Abbott and Costello movie. True, Correct? Tim, she was the first woman to appear in an Abbot and Costello movie. false. Correct. And finally, Vic, that movie was called Abott and Costello meeet Ella Fitgerald. True Incorrect? No we're not gonna count that last one. Let's give Vic Michelis and Tim Simon the Iice stand as Hen calculates the final score That Abbot and Costella movie with Ella Fitzeral, by the way, was called Ridem Cowboy from nineteen forty two. All right, Helen, are you ready to announce the final score for today's show? I am at the end of the game. Vick Michelis has eight and a half points and Timothy Simons has thirteen and a half points. Congratulations, Timothy. You are the facting Champion on go factact yourself. What will you do with your championship? We gotta get everybody home We're gonna get everybody home. Yeah. That's what you'll do with your championship. L humanitarian, that is Jim Sim We're gonna to wrap up by giving everyone on the panel a chance to mention or promote anything of theirs they might like. Vic, what is that for you? There's a lot of terrible anti trans bills happening right now around the country. You can go support your local trans organizations. Lambda Legal is a really good national one, transrgender law center. I really love Zebra Youth out of Orlando and lost and foundound out of Atlanta. Very nice use of your plugs Tim, what do you want people to know about? Wow, you're making me look terrible that I'm to promote except listen to that podcast and that. That was my other one. listen to Tim's podcast. Listen to podcast. a television show on Netflix. Also a very important cause. Sim Simons, everybody. That's even harsher than taking the handshake away. to be honest. I knew I didn't need to take the handshake away because I had. You had that in your pocket. Ladies and gentlemen, you are so lucky because my hosting partner is Helen Hong. travel all over the country doing stand upp, you can see where I'm coming near you on all my socials, which is at Funny Helen Hong. That's right. at fununny Helen Hong Don't be fooled by A Helen Hongs. Why, Helen They're not funny. They're not funny, but this one is, it's our funny, Helen Hong and me, you can find me on the socials at jKeith dot net all spelled out. 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