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From EMMA MYERS: How Netflix’s Wednesday Made Me Famous Overnight. I Wasn’t Prepared for How My Life Would ChangeJun 16, 2026

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EMMA MYERS: How Netflix’s Wednesday Made Me Famous Overnight. I Wasn’t Prepared for How My Life Would ChangeJun 16, 2026 — starts at 0:00

You mentioned your life changed overnight when you started on Wednesday? Yes. I got some numbers for you ready for this. Yeah. Season one We've got over two hundred fifty two million views in ninety one days of its release. That is totally and utterly mad. It's the disgusting numbers. You went to bed pretty much with nine thousand followers Three days later, you had five million Hi I'm Emma Myers and I'm in great compomany. The one, the onlyest Emma Myers. I never went to school ver Iomeschooled being odd one out, people being fake nice and obive You know inviting you to things just to make fun of you. You had that experience? Oh my God, so many times. Were you serious? When the show first came out and I was just starting to look at the reactions and stuff, like I couldn't help myself. It was almost an addiction. Explain to me what that is like. Getting validation from this thing that you've put so much work into, but at the same time, it's so damaging I know spread rumors about my family. seeing my friends get called parasites and leeches for posting pictures with me. I didn't know how to handle it. There was whole fan fiction that Jenna and knew weren'ted like a platonic relationship. Jenet is the most amazing person ever. I'm less worried about people shipping us and more of the fact that they harass other people who get close to one another they want us to be together What does Jack backack like behind the scenes? He feels like an amazing improv actor? Because it's such a big show. How secretive do you have to be about it? I'm not going tell anything wor. kind of are. Guys, welcome back to another episode of Great Company. Today's guest is Emma Myers from Netflix's hit showow Wednesday Okay, their're biggest show Now, before we start, I would just like to ask you one quick favor. That is if you can hit that subscribe button Does us wonders I can't even explain. also means you join our community and get signaled whenever we have another episode uploaded You you do that one thing, I'll thank you forever Okay, enjoy this incredible episode of Great Company with Emma Myers. I know you're a huge fan of Narnia. Yeah, yeah I audition foraria Can I guess what role Peter It was it was Peter That makes sense. And I was I was about sixteen years old How far did you make it? Not very far. They came to my school to try and find Oh did they cool. So they came to my school to try and find Peter. And I was like in my head, I was like, I'm gonna get this role I didn't even I didn't even get past that first bited. It's okay. We've all been there. There's been roles where I'm like, yeah, this is mine. and then doesnn't go anywhere. What role has that been for you Oh, so many to the point where like If you see a role in a film or a TV show and it's my age range and like a girl with brown hair, I've probably auditioned for it Yeah. I mean, everybody auditions for everything like you're always told to audition for everything, even if you don't want to do it. Audition, it's good get in fr of the casting director anyways. Do you remember your first ever audition? U Yes, weirdly enough I have I have a very good memory Where were you? what was happening? What was it? I was in Florida I think I was auditioning for Pamper's diaper box And I think I was like I was too old to be auditioning for diapers. I think I was like three I know. Wh who whoa whoa whoa You remember this? I do. I remember images in my head. so I know what the waiting room looked like. always had a very, very good memory And I can't tell you how the audition went, but I can remember doing it. That's wild. I know which is why I have such a I don't have to do much prep because I can look at a scene. I read it through twice and then know it. Sorry, this is like a superpower. So it really is. I'm very blessed with it. So you can you can read a script and you read it through twice and you can get it. What photographic or it just goes in? I don't think it's photographic, but I think I just I don't know How my mom told me that when I was a baby, like you know the game where you flip over tiles and try and match them, she would be like, o, you would beat me every time at two years old doing like Winnie the Pooh tile games I just I speak about pets it's called ps. We have to p ps. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I don't know. I never look at my lines before the day I'll look at them first in rehearsal and then by the end of rehearsal, which is maybe like fifteen minutes, I'll know it. But I think it's also It also has to do with knowing your material, like you know your character, you know what the gist of the scene is Like as long as you know what your objective is, I feel like you can I don't know. that's such confidence. That's wild comedy. What you're saying is that when you know the gist of a scene, you can kind of just go and wing it. For me that would make me freak out. It does most people. like my sister, who's also an actor, has to memorize her lines before like she She did a film and like knew her whole script before they even started shooting because it makes her so nervous to have to learn new lines every day. Whereas if I memorize something so far out, then when I get to the day, I'm like, oh, I'm not as confident in it as if I just looked at it really quickly in the morning I kind of weirdly know what you mean is sometimes I do a lot of hosting, right? And When I do a lot of hosting, when I get given an aocue or a script, I don't feel as free And I feel like I have to stick to that scen. Exactly, yeah. I like being able to paraphrase and use them as sort of guidelines. Because then it makes you feel more natural in the moment. Exactly. So talk me about China, whereere do you grow up? I grew up in Orlando, Florida ten, fifteen minutes from Disney I know. I still love Disney. and I think it's so fun to go Um I was homeschooled. So I spent like Disney used to do these like, u residence passes. So if you lived in Florida and you had a Florida address, you could go you could get an annual pass for cheaper, go off pe. during school time and during weekdays and So me and my sisters who are all homchooled used to go to Disney during the day and then come back at night and then do your school. Homeschooling, talk me through homeschooling. So My mom taught us essentially, there's curriculums and programs that you get and it's essentially the same as any school program you just do at home. But my mom taught us until we were about twelve And then The curriculum we were using sort of teaches you how to teach yourself. So I was essentially my own Tutor. And I would read and do all my homework and you know, you just check yourself with the the answer key and stuff, but I Yeah, I never went to school. ever Besides taking the SATs. You never went to school. Never went school yeah. that What does that create, right? Because you have three other sisters. You all homeschool together This is an Orlando. So your mum is a stay at home mom and just basically teaching you every single day. Did does that mean you make friends outside of the family? Yeah, so I was always on some sort of team. I ' done dance since I was like Maybe. Um So I made friends through that. I made friends through acting. I did a lot of Cedar when I was younger other kids that were homeschooled in the area, like they would put on these homeschool events and you'd go and meet other kids, your age. just to socialize them. I think I think h homeeschooling is a bad thing as long as you're socialized outside of that because I have met kids who were homeschooled and didn't have any of that. And can spot them from a mile away. So you made friends by going to do dance and performing. Has that always been your core? Has that always been your sl? Always, always. I've never really explored a career that wasn't entertainment in some form. like I've I've always had a backup, sure, but I just loved performing. I grew up with theater and dance and just loved doing it. I don't know, it's always been my thing. I've never really been like, o, I'll do something else Yeah It's always been. It's always been there. Did you ever feel like you missed out on school dancers' prompts on any of those kind of g? You didn't ever? No, because The homes schoolchool group used to do these English country line dances. sounds wicked. Yeah. you know, it was like classical education, so you know, they'd throw these. And to be fair, they were so much fun. likeike they teach you how to do the old fashioned. like if you've seen Pride and Prejudice, you know all the like the Regency era dancing they do. they would make us do it. honestly so much fun when you go with your friends. But I never really felt the need to go to Fmer or anything. I Why? Because you just you didn't feel like I just don't think that's really my environment. Like I never I don't know. I I We grew very introverted and all of my friends were like the weird ones I guess. so Every time I was at an event where I had to dress up and like dance and stuff with my friends, I was always like, It's not really my thing really. But can I like dive into that? Because I find that whole concept of saying like my friends were the weird ones, right? Yeah. Why is your friend friendship group the weird ones? Why are the other people? Why are the other people the weird ones? I would say you know, when you it's so strange being odd one out. when you're growing up because it's like everybody else deems you guys the weird ones, even though like We're all kids, you know, kids are going to be eccentric and have different interests. completely. And like Nobody ever taught these kids who bullied us like, oh, people have different interests than you and it's fine. you like what you like and they like what they like. And And you know, you don't need to make people feel weird about it. but Yeah, it's mee and my friends were always the ones who were like the strange ones, which I mean, some of the things we did might, you know, you might side eye us a bit, but never I don't think anything kids do. that involves like their special interests or like If you're not harming anybody, I don't understand what the issue is. But let's break this down a little bit. okay? becausecause we've just met Right? I'm sitting with you, right? The Emma that I have just met feeles incredibly kind feeles that she knows herself pretty well. Yeah, so feels way smarter than me Like in la I don't know. trust me? No, I set. far more talented. And everything way, hard working, you've been grafting since you were a kid, right? that feels way more The fact that you know yourself, the fact that you know that's not your people and that's not your side. where I've sat with so many people who potentially would be the popular kids at school, right? And I can tell there's far more insecurities coming from them than there are from you. I think that's what it is. I think it's them projecting their own insecurities and and I don't know if I think that like Maybe you have to get bullied to have a little bit of character and find yourself and feel really confident in yourself. I hope wish that that's not the case, but I know so many people who went through the same experience as me and and are so like grounded in themselves and like no, like I know myself and You know, maybe I was weird, but who cares? talkal to me about bullying s of things because I've just I've just had a baby boy. I haven't, my wife has I keep saying that I definitely did not have the baby. But I You know I look at my baby and I'm so protective and I worry about the outside world because I worry about the influencers that come in and I worry about how he is What's he going to be like when he's older? Is he going to have trouble at school? Are people going to be nice to? Are they going to be mean to him? And from your experience, what kind of bullying happened and how did you handle it I feel like Teenage girls on a dance team 's very sort of like specific level of bullying Um, It is so hard because of course you probably want your kid to have experience and friends and you know, go out and socialize and stuff. But I think with that comes people who you know, will pick on you and And the stuff that me and my friends went through was just like petty stupid things and people being fake nice and you know inviting you to things just to make fun of you. And stuff like that, even though it That' You experience? Oh my God, so many times. Are you serious? It's I kid I not those people. Kids are mean And I look back on it now and I'm just like You know There are also kids. am I going to Am I going to hold somebody to, you know what they said or did to me when we were twelve? No. Like we were kids I have no grudges against anybody and I have no I don't think badly about anybody. I also think there's such an important Like You should talk to your kids about bullying because I feel I find so many parents are like Oh my kid would never do that But like your kid might be doing it and you have no idea. No idea I just find it important to have those conversations. and I so wish that there were adults in my life when I was that age who stood up for me And there weren't besides like my mom and my friend's moms, but you know, did they stand up here? Of course, of course, But you know, when you get involved with teachers and you know, bullies, parents and stuff like that and everybody's against you know, what we're saying You can only do so much. And it just got to the point where my mom was like, lookook, you're going to run into people in your life who won't understand you and All you can do is say, well, whatever that's me and I hope I hope you're happy and I'm going to be happy as well. I don't think you'll ever be. I mean, I hope you would, but I think you'll always run into people who are miserable and well want to take it out on you Do She feels sorry for those other people's? I do, I do. I feel sorry. I think it's I think it just reflects, you know, their mindset and you know, I think bullied because they're insecure or they're getting bullied themselves. and I mean, you never know what somebody else is going through and what they might be dealing with in other aspects of their life, which causes them to take it out on you and But I just think that like You know If somebody doesn't like you It's hard to accept that and it's hard to, especially when you're a kid, but You know, They're not your people. They're not your people. And that's okay. I with you. You can find your own community and You know, don't let somebody else than you because it's, you know, life's too short. And there's a great quote is whyy fit in women born to stand out? Exactly. one hundred percent. You know, you have this you have this sort of passion for fantasy, right? Yeah So Naria I know you love the hobbit And for me, right, that feels like your place where you could that's your world that you could go to as an escape. one hundred percent, was so obsessed. I still am. I'm always constantly reading a fantasy novel. I just love What is it about? exxplain that to me I just think I like I like the escapism. I think it's so much fun, I think always pretending as a kid you know, me and my sisters would just play You know, we're in Star Wars and, you know, we're doing this or over We're on our horses in the middle of middle Athpin. You know, I don't know what it is specifically. I've just always felt comfort in like big epic universes and something that's like completely different than what we have in real life. And I think That's why I love acting so much is I can do things that I would never be able to do in normal life It's so true. The can you speak Elvish? I can't, but my uncle can. Uncle Kan Fluently Fluently. He took a whole course on it and everything. I know. And I kind of want to do it because it seems like it wouldd be so fun. suchuch like a niche thing to know But I I like watched the behind the scenes of those films, and I'm like, oh, it's to sit there and learn a made up language for this project would be like bucket list thing. It's so cool. How amazy is that token? created a new language. It's incredible. His knowledge was so deep of so many things and I think he like Stied older versions of different languages like took things from different ones to make up his own and The depth of knowledge within those books. have to make up a whole language as well. like Yeah, it's crazy. And the connection that it has throughout, it's like the way that your brain has to be big enough to understand where how to connect different worlds and different stories this over here was back centuries over here. Yeah. It's wild to have that imagination. could never You religious You grew up in a Christianousehold. I did When did when did you really turn towards religion Be I grew up in a. I just from my point of view, right, is I grew up in someomeone of a religious family, right? My auntie incredibly religious And we used to go to church Sundays. att school I also went to church every Sunday. Right's And we had to church every single evening, apart from Wednesdays, right? Yeah. But because of that, I sort of turned away from religion because I was forced into it. I feel the exact same way. Really? Yeah. I grew up very similarly going to church every Sunday. wentent to youth Group for a while. I always, always believed in God and I've never been like, oh don't I don't believe. but I've It's sort of There's always like a problem sometimes I have with organized religion where it does push people away and depending on the type of church you're with or you know the people you interact with? A lot of them have no grace which is what we're called to have is grace and compassion and understanding. And I think that in turn pushes people away. So elaborating on that. What do you mean that they have no grace Like If you're not perfect then you don't truly believe and you're not worth this which is the exact opposite of what God says and When I was a teenager and struggling and you know I had really bad social anxiety when I was fourteen and like I couldn't do anything. I was having Panic attacks going in public. so I went to see a like church counselor, I guess. and you know, she was like, oh, well you just have to pray more which It's not the answer you want when you're struggling and you're like, why I am praying and I don't understand what I'm doing, like God must not. loveo me or whatever, but that's totally not the case and I When I was fourteen, I kind of was just like, Yeah, like I believe that I'm not like You know, whatever. I never think about it too much until I turned I think I was twenty one maybe and I like I was having the worst time of my entire life. I was not sleeping for days. I'd go to work being awake for three days straight I was struggling so much. I was was sleeping too. I was not sleeping. I've had I struggle my whole family struggles with insomnia, but I was having such a bad time that I was just like, I can't take this anymore. Like I Please help me, God, I don't know what to do. I started really just putting my faith in him and speaking to him directly and not wanting to be a part of like organized church, but instead having a relationship with God and it's completely like fully just changed me and I feel have so much comfort in it and I feel like having I think a lot of people don't understand that it's not even about going to church. It's not about the religion. it's about having a relationship. Yeah with God. and that's really all He wants and you know I hate the fact that people are turned away because of people misrepresenting God and That is a great. way to look at it. Yeah because I think you'll So right, I think it feels like it needs to be a group thing You need to be a part of this big ensemble, but actually having your own individual relationship with God. That's the most important' important. Yeah. That's the most important thing and he He meets you where you are. likeike you do not have to be perfect. I am far from perfect, like If we had to be perfect nobody would be would be worthy of it. we're not worthy of it. but because God is like, I love you so much, have a relationship with me Nothing else matters is why I love so much. I have three non negotiables in life now. One is I trying to exercise That can be a walk, it can be a run, it can a gym It can be whatever' important. one hundred percent, right? One non negotial. The other one is take homeopathic medicine. That's not my mom is the same. I your mom would get on. Yeah. And my third non negotiable is I always give thanks every evening and every morning. And's a good thing to do. one hundred percent. And it was my wife who started to me do it. and she said, listen, you know, again, I think this was in a period maybe a few years ago where I was going through moments of maybe anxiety, stress. And I think I wasn't living in my true self. So I said, Okaykay, she said, why don't you just give thanks? You stop looking out for what you don't have, but appreciating what you do have And so I would give thanks every evening and every morning. And since then it is also changed my life. Yeah, I think it's so good to be grateful. like for everything and I so recognize that I I would not be here if God didn't want me to be here and like has given me this. and I have this desire and he's clearly blessed me with so much in my life. and And I realized that like, It's not by my own works alone that I am here. So it's It's such a good thing to give thanks. Can I ask a personal question? Yeah. You said that you experienced these panic attacks And social anxiety and And I know social anxiety is crippling you also experience that sort of depression as well. Were the moments like you said, where you were just like, I can't take this So many times. so many times and it's It's so Ciffling sometimes. I think especially in this job, it can be so lonely, which I recently just started going to therapy And I congrats. I really like I'm so happy I started doing it because I've kind of kind of have pushed it off a lot because I guess I've kind of gaspped myself into being like, oh, it's really not that but like you don't need Therapy you're fine You just got to get over this hump and you'll be okay. and I've realized that it's I can't alone help myself I have to have other people. And I think deciding to go has really, really helped me. But yeah, there was a period in my life where I was like, ye, I don't know how far I'm going to make it anymore because it's It's so lonely in this business And Hving to deal with all of that, having like my life changed overnight Not having anybody around me who understood whatsoever. and not really wanting to reach out to people who Ustood in work because It's it's so it's such a weird thing to call somebody up and be like, Hey, I'm notot doing good. I don't know how you deal with this. like what can you do? Be I find that a lot of people who are at that huge level also don't know what to do. Like everybody's sort of there's no playb. There no There's no way to handle it ately Um So I I was like, you know what? I'm going give it a go because You know, people who've started going are like,, I think you really need this. And I figured out that I have ADHD, which has actually really helped me Understand a lot of things about myself. L why am I like this That's why Thank you, Shangam and secondecondly Thank go you are here. I know, I'm glad. I'm very haic. I Yeah, it does It is such a difficult thing to to contemplate, but Yeah, it's Im glad I'm You know you mentioned your life changed overnight Was that when you St on Wednesdays. Yes. Explain that me, J. This Wednesdayays is I got some numbers for you ready for this? Yeah Season one got over two hundred fifty two million views Inane. In ninety one days of its release That is Totally and uly mad. It's the disgusting numbers. That's a great way to b. I'm, how many of you are watching it You went many times? You went to bed retty much with nine thousand followers. Three days later, you had five million. Yeah. That is literally overnight, your life changes. It was ridiculous. And I think by the end of the two weeks I had twelve or something? and It's suddenly such this like It's like you almost don't know how to handle And I think I had it easy at first because'm I'm blonde in the show. so like Nobody on the street was recognizing me Online, it was just like I crazy. didn't turn off my Instagram notifications before the show came out, which didid the second I woke up because my phone was just crashed. Explain to me what did that is like, right? Like what is that like waking up to something to suddenly when you go onto your Instagram What are the what are the notificated? What are the DMs doing? Just like Food and floods and floods of messages and comments and And I at first was like, oh, it's like I can turn my phone off and and it's like real, but then You sort of subconsciously are constantly like, I wonder what people are saying about this and I wonder what somebody's messaged me and I I wonder if this person likes it and stuff and you can't help but deep dive. And when I When the show first came out and And I was just starting to look at the reactions and stuff. like I couldn't help myself. It was almost an addiction going in and like seeeeing what people are saying about me and reading all my Instagram comments and And I was having such a hard time with it and my mom was like You cannot do this. You can't do that. You can't do it, turn off your notifications like You should delete Instagram for a few days and And I think I did that for a while. I'd go into post and then I'd delete the app because I didn't know how to handle it And it it's such's weird, right? It's weird because it's like a two way thing. It's like you're getting that validation. that's quite exciting. So addicting because you're getting validation from this thing that you've put so much work into, but at the same time, it's so damaging because I think there's like Everybody then starts to have an opinion of you And your worth. what you look like, what you wear, you know, how you speak You know, it just everything and and assuming things about you, I still deal with that to this day. L there' people assume so much about me. I feel it's crazy and they take it as fact. like nobody actually L board. Any random thing you hear about me on the internet is probably just not true most things. I don't know. I justust wild h. wild. People you know, spread rumors about my family to explain what did they say to? Well, somebody spread a rumor that like my sister was estranged from my family because she doesn't appear in a lot of pictures with us and it's like No know, she's at law school in a different state. I haven't seen her in a few months. So totally not true just wild stuff like that and it still happens to this day, but it's it's like Man, you people know nothing Yeah. I don't know anything You know what? it's because there's and like the fans of the show, the fans of Wednesday rightight? they They also believe like there was a whole fan fiction that that Jenine kn werened like a platonic relationship. Yeah it's I think that like there's nothing wrong with shipping characters, as long as you're Do, you know, you're not shifting like a twelve year old and a fifty year old.. No Like as long you you're being cool shipping characters, I think it's so fun. I was What's it called shipping Sipping Yeah, it's like a ship, you know, like you're like, that. my ship. That like two people together. Yeah. That's the l. That's the online lingo ipping. Shipping. Yeah. I don't know. Is this like a G Z thing No, I don't I think it's more millennial Like it was a huge on Tumblr before Tumblr like is not a big shipping platform anymore. I don't really know. I think I missed the Glden age of Tumblr. I got on it right as it was dying. but Okay, so that's why it apparently in one direction was Harry Sttyles and Louis Thomason. they were shipped together. Oh my God, I remember. Okay, here we go. I remember when that was happening. And I was a huge one direction fan. And I remember seeing people being like, No, they're together. You don't understand Oh my go Like you're acting like you'll die if this isn't real. This is crazy And like I just think that shipping real people Like's dangerous. It's so dangerous because you get into this gray area where you first of all, are making people uncomfortable. They feel like they can't interact anymore because of way that people react, which Jen and I don't really care that much. like we We are like, you, whatever, we interact the way we want to interact. That is interesting. so it stops you interacting because you're worried about what the online dialogue would be. It's more less like I'm less worried about people shipping us and more of the fact that they harass people who get close to one another because they want us to be together and if anybody else gets close, then that's interfering with their ship That's the Justin Bieber Selena Gomez effect. Yes, that whole thing. I feel like recently the I was told that the boys from Heated rivalry got it a lot. Really? As well. I still haven't watched that show. I haven't either My m has watched it and she loved it. did she She let me know every single evening? I need to see it because everybody raves about it. but my mum was being weird about that show. Let her enjoy it.. Bny, I let her enjoy it. But I was like, donon't call me up and tell me about it. I don't need to know what you're doing in your spare time I don't know, it's just such like a Like I don't It's dangerous because it's unfair and it's unfair to others. And also What is hard for that online chatter, right? is you're playing a character. Exactly. That is not You, That is not Emma. Yeah exact. Or Jenna. So then But the fans get confused almost. They are so desperate because they're in that world. They want it to exist. Yeah. And it's so fine if you want to ship characters. like I like ship Wclaire. it's cute. you love it. like do whatever same thing with any other ships on Wednesday. Like I think there's there's So fun. that's part of shipping fandom culture, I guess It's sort of like, I don't know, it gets to a point where sometimes it can cross a line when you start harassing other people. who are in my life who, you know are my genuine friends and I love hanging out with them and I want to be around them. And if it's almost like if I interact with anybody who's not a part of the ships that they want me to be in then it's You know, it just is so much chaos. How do you handle that noise at the ginning probably not very well. Probably not I didn't I handle it very well. It was It was weird seeing my friends get called parasites and leeches for posting pictures with me. It's like, No, these are actually my good friends and I hang out with them and I'm okay with them posting pictures of me and I just try to ignore it Now like I really am barely on Instagram. I'll go on to like my friend's photos and repost things, but that's about it. I don't really read comps anymore. It's It's It hur it like hurts me to see people in my life get harassed over this because it's like I promise anything you see of me on the internet, like my friends posting pictures has all been approved by me. L Everybody always checks with me first. so It's not like anybody's invading my privacy or you know, using me for clout which people get accused of that all the time I genuinely love these people to death and like I am so okay if they want to I'm just going to I'm not using you for cloud my We're friends. We're friends. Yeah. It's okay, don' come at me. You know, the Wednesday cast stacked It's got Jenna Teger, Katherathine Cy Jones, Billy Piper, Christina Richie, Joy Sunday. Like what is it like being on a set like that Everybody is incredible. I 's like The adults of that caste especially are so Like they're so cool. Billy is incredible. Oh my God, I love her to death. and like G Get getting to especially One of my first big jobs ever getting to work with people who are that cool has been such a blessing and such a pleasure. and Bushemi I freaked out when he got passast, like I lohemy. I love Stebie Semy. Oh my God, he's the funniest ever He's so great. He So great in everything. He's amazing. But give me like a side of what it's like on set. Well I It depends on the day, but I really, really like when all of the kids are sort of kids, I guess, we're all adults but playing kids. Yeah are like in this giant scene and the best times when I don't have any lines, I' just supposed to be seen in the background so I can goof off and do what I want. but It's so chill like We're shooting in Dublin again and And I know the crew because we worked with them last season and Everybody's so comfortable and You know, working with him is great because he's so chill Yeah and he kind of just lets you do what you want Um And like so many people these this cast is genuinely they've become family ye it's literally my family and I love them to desath. like And isn't that amazing? growring up with kind of fancy and then being in a fantasy show And one of the biggest timimber You know what I mean? It It's been a dream, honestly and I'm that' like manifestation to the literally to the Nth degree. Wednesday has literally opened so many doors for me and Not only that, like I've made friends for life. like Jenna is the most amazing person ever The rest the like Georgie, Hunter, and Mousa, like I love them all very dearly and they've been the best ever. and it's so good getting to almost grow up with people on a job because it's been five years since we started the first one and We've all se crazy. So crazy It's gone by so fast and we've al must have changed so much of it. So much. Yeah, if you look back at yourself then, I cringe cringe. don't cringe. But but like in at all her Ha She has no idea. Have you ever seen any of my old work Because then you would cringe. Well, it's okay. Everybody, you know, every that face. Not my old workk. Trust me, mine's not great. But what is what are the Because it's such a big show Like How secretive do you have to be about it? Oh so secretive. I keep getting asked things about this new season. I'm like I literally can't tell. So I was going to ask you question, you can't tell me anything. I can't tell you anything. You can't give me anything. I can't give you anything. I'm not gonna tell anyone. I know. You kind of are.. I can't say anything, otherwise I'll never be seen again And I dispp Tim Barton would make you disappear. I don't think Tim would care. I think Netflix would care But I would love to keep working with Netflix and You know, so please't Don't get me fired and, you know, buried somewhere to that idea of religion, right? You know, something that's written here, right is In twenty nineteen, only twenty two percent of Gen Z believed in God. But it's now jumped to forty five percent Wow Why do you think more young people are turning towards Good question. Well, that makes me very happy, but also I think I think with Social media is such like Oh, it can be really good and really bad. but I think some really good aspects of it are people sharing their testimonies, sharing their stories And especially on TikTok, there are people who like do who will, you know, do like a oh, do a devotional with me sort of thing or like here's my story. And I think the exposure alsoso really hot like Just learning that you're not alone and maybe if you've been to a church that has made you feel alone and feel like you're not worth it. and and all this stuff. there's so many people online that are like, hey, that's not the case. This person is misrepresenting who God actually is and And this is who he is and you shouldn't care about those other people. You should focus on this instead. And And I think I think that has a lot to do with it because I've definitely seen like a rise on social media Totally of young people. Do you think it's because people want to feel connection as well because of social media, we become disconnected? Yeah, one hundred percent, I think. It's so Weird social media is, I guess started out as here's a way to connect with friends and stuff. kind of has just evolved into done the opposite. done the opposite. and I think it's such a good thing to sort of take that back and make it more about connection and hundred peruff And and yeah, I think that has a lot to do with it. Can I ask you a big question. What do you think happens when we die That's, you know, That's really hard s truthully what you really do Truthully? Well, I believe there is life after death. I do. and I believe that As long as, you know, you you know God, like I believe there is life and I think that I think really that's all that matters. You know, you having a relationship with him and Yeah, it's hard because I I'm not the judge, jury and executioner. I can never look at somebody and say, this is what's going to happen to you and your dad. That is not for me to decide. That's not up to me at all. And I and I never want to assume I don't know what somebody's thinking. I don't know what's going on in their personal life. I don't know what happens right before they die. You know I think that That's such like it's such an existential question.s so hard. and it's so scary, but God says like be afraid that you said As a child, I really wanted to be an actor So I would lie all the time about everything Now to make up for it, I'm overly truthful. Yeah I was a pathological liar. as a kid. I would lie about everything Even if I didn't need to lie about it, even if I wasn't gonna to get in trouble for something, like just Every literally everything. I just I don't know what it was. I couldn't help myself And then it essentially got to the point where My mom was like We will never have a good relationship if you keep lying to me about things Did I give you a buzz I know almost made myself miserable lying all the time. like I was like, oh, somebody's gonna find out that I lied and stop lying. I don't understand what why you're doing this. But is it because you thought it would make you more exciting Maybe I don't know. Well, some of it was like, I would lie about doing my math. which doesn't need to lie. but like I always got it done in the end anyways. but Even little things of like, oh, what would you do today? Oh I did this. Totally didn't do it. I don't know I literally don't know why would it's more of an impulse, I think. I know what you mean. Again, that's sort of like an ADHD thing so in a way. I've got so many I used to lie as a k a kid as well. I used to also steal things Like, yeah, my dad's money when I was like five. What am I gonna do with that Yeah, there ares so many things that I did as a kid that my therapist is like, There's another thing for you to consider It could be this. It could be that. It's like, oh, great, just another thing to add to it. But yeah, I don't even know why I did it. I kind of made myself miserable by doing it. Was it a light bulb moment when you were diagnosed with AHD Yes, so many, so many things made so much sense. And I'm still For women, by the way, it's much more difficult to be diagnosed. Yeah. it' It's so frustrating that that's the case and like there's still so many things that my therapist was like, oh, it's ADHD that I'm like, no, no, no, I'm just being lazy or like No, no, because like I can do this one day, but then the next day I can't so I'm just like not on on that day. She's like The ADHD and It makes so much sense and I'm so glad that I have an answer for a lot of things U Because truly it's like my brain needs something different from other people's and that's fine. Id just have to make sure I give myself that. It feels like sometimes it feels like in life you gave yourself a bit of a hard time. And it feels like now you're in a place where you're sort of you feel confident I am, I'd say. I'm like I'm It's weird because I grew so insecure growing up such an introvert and I would still say that I'm Introvert, I just like personal time, but I also feel like I I know myself so much now and I'm I love where I'm at in my life. I love my friends. I love the people in my life. I I love my job. I'm finally at a place where I'm not miserable twenty four seven. like I And When you come from a place like that Yeah, you know, and then you get to a place where you can kind of breathe and you see the blue sky and you were like looking up It's like I feel like I can breathe and it's it's Yeah, I feel like I'm finally enjoying what I do, evenven though I've always enjoyed it, but I always felt like I kind of had to struggle to succeed and that's always the case. You know,s there's a thing which is like be careful what you wish for. Because a lot of people I've sat with opposites have wanted something so bad, whether that was to sell out stadiions as a comedian you know, a guy called Mo Gilligan said this to me or actors who have wanted to reach that role and get that role And actually what happens is when they reach it, it's almost like an anticlimax. It's not what they were expecting. What they thought they were going to get from it, they don't actually get. And what you they're not real what we're realizing is actually you' got to heal your inside first. That's external validations is not going to help you. Exactly. I can enjoy my success and things that I do so much more now because I don't feel like I need. other people to validate me. I feel like pretty secure in myself and and Yeah, it's I guess it is that thing of like, oh, I've done this, but but I've not done this so I'm not there yet and I never be satisfied. But I I think there's A line, there's you know, you can be wanting more but still enjoy what you have and be grateful and and enjoy life. You don't need it to kill yourself over. this, this and this, you know, like you can you can take it easy, you know, not everybody's path is the same. you know I had dinner last night My friends just launched a book and he's had an amazing story. It's called Knives and Spoons. And he basically went through like addiction and came out to the side and chehefing and cooking right helpsed them get through it. It's an amazing story And I sat on a table with a guy called Jon, who's a restaurant,'s not a restaurant He's said the most amazing, he's probably in his late sixties and We would talk getting quite deep because I love to like when you have those conversations. Yeah, surface level conversation, but because the reason I love doing this is because you get to find people's stories.'s the most exciting thing And he said to me, if he was to if his life was to finish tomorrow And he knew it was coming He would be completely content with his life. whichich is so good. Isn't that an amazing thing to get to And it just made me realize that that's actually what we really want to get to of course. I mean, obviously like I There's stuff that I still want to do. I have roles I still want to play. have places I still want to go see, like I obbviously would love to do more of it, but I think like if I died tomorrow I for. You have a long way to go,re wouldould you want to win an Oscar one day? I would love to win an Oscar. Come on, let's go. Yeah,'s goal for sure. And can you make me a promise When you're up on that stage And you're holding that Oscar You will thank me. I will thank you. There we go. I'll do it. It might take me twenty twenty, thirty, forty years, but Don't worry, I remember. I'll say it. Okay. Trust me, when I was five years old, I went to her hairdressers. and she said if I behaved as well as I did today, she'd give me a kickcat And I went back the next time And I behaved and she didn't give me a kick cat, and I've never forgotten it Well I won't let you down You in the Minecraft moie with Jack Black? Yes Incredible I heard you did a lot of your stunts yourself. I did Yeah. Pranny did ninety percent of them. I did every single stunt besides there's a scene where we're all getting sucked into into the portal And we all come flying out one by one and my character like hits Jason MMoa across the face and he goes flying. and that's the only stunt I didn't do because they didn't want me to be thrown directly into Jason MMoa's face. But I did everything else And it was super fun. What is it like working with people like Jack Back? A Jisma It's just like a childhood dream. I've grown up with the two of them I couldn't asked to work with any cooler people like they're so hundred percent Jack black. I was just fan growirling the whole. like I'm tryrying to keep the poool I love you so much. Yeah ye that's what I would be like and never lose that. He's the sweetest. L my rarap gift from him, he drew a picture of the two of us hiking a mountain And I have it like taped on my wall. did I love it. Yeah He's so sweet. Where were you hiking? Up the the Tongario Which is Lord of the Rings Mord or passass In New Zealand. In New Zealand . Was that a big moment? Such a big moment. What That's really cool.id didid you act on anything out as you were doing it going up there? I definitely did. I definitely did. It was me and my sister who went up and we the whole time we were like, well And o, that's where that happens. And it was it was so cool. It gets the most I think the most beautiful scenery I've ever seen. Yeah I've never been. It's the one place where I really want to go. It is amazing. It's me eight hours I got extremely sunburnt, but I have never been happier. What does Jack backack like behind the scenes? Because for me, like he feels like an amazing improv actor Oh There's no difference between Jack Black on screen and Jacklack offscreen. Itays wild. He doesn't shut off It's just like What you see is what you get Are you serious? Which is so great because is that quite hard when you're acting alongside it? becausecause you just don't know where it's going to go what's going to happen? Yeah, it's qu it's quite hard I The entire time was trying not to break. So I think my miserable face on camera is me like really trying not to smile. because A lot of the songs that were in movie we werere in the scripts, but I didn't know the tune or he was going sing them whatever and he just, you know, would start doing it and you have to like My camera You can't break charriter. Yeah you really can't and it's hard. it's so hard We talked about a Good Girls Guide to murder seeason two. The episode is out right now. They're all out right now. All all out straight away. All out straight awayay. A BBC iPayer here and then Netflix everywhere else. Great promo. Yeah. There you go. There we go.'ve I've been conditioned. Yeah. Don't look down the camera set. Let's do now. For anyone who doesn't know Can you explain a good girl's guide to murder, what it's all about? So it's basased off a book series by Holly Jackson in the same name Good Girls Gues Murder, It's about a girl named Pip and she decides one day for her EPQ that she's going to do she's going to solve a solved mystery in her town that she doesn't think actually caught the killer. so she wants to find the true killer of this murder and she discovers The real killer And, um, maybe unearth some other things along the way. And so season two is kind of the continuation of that and You know, she's kind of unearthsome some hard secrets for people around her and she's sort of trying to juggle that while. I love how cryptic you're being. I know. evenven though people have Netflix are watching They're always watching. But yeah, it's about Pip is essentially a girl who takes on too much How do how do you with Pip, how do you relate to her character Taking on too much. She's exxplain that to me. Where you take on too much? Well, I find it so hard to be relaxed if I haven't finished something I started. I'm such a procrastinator and I will put things off. but the second I start something, I have to sit there and finish it until it's done. Otherwise I. Exactly And u And she's also like, so annoyingly insistent As until she finds out and gets her answer and I feel like I'm that way If I don't understand something, I will ask until I understand That how much do you take So you take your own individual, So if you read a partart, do you have to see yourself in the part? No because I I like being something I'm not. I think it's fun. I love being inid. I'm not like Eid whatsoever besides maybe we're both a bit of an we're optimists. But Ive I love being somebody I'm not but with pIP. I feel I feel like I am a lot of me is her can I just say thank you So much for coming the showow dayay Thank you for having me. Sometimes I never know what to expect, right? whereere this goes and just how open you've been how u grounded you feel Yeah, Im I'm some I'm an open book, I feel. It's incredible. Before we finish, we'd like to do eight quick fire questions. Let's do it. Are you ready for this? I'm so ready What's a sayingle phrase that makes you smile or cheers you up Well, I've been quoting it so much, but the sharktail shrimp guy when he goes It's fairly happy So if somebody asked me if I'm doing okay, I've just been like fairly happy find and I love it. Yeah. I like that. Best compliment anyone's ever given you editor just told me yesterday that I'm very easy to edit because I'm always on Which is such a good compliment. That There's so many shots that you do during the day and you're so tired, but you always have to be on. Professional. Yeah. Amazing. It's a great compliment. hundred percent. What scares you most about yourself Ohoh, I get angry fast. I've got a temper You have a temper? I have a really quick temper and then quickly I' like, o, it's fine But I react so strong at first. My wife has that. Yeah, it's something I definitely am working on, but it's always been my default if she's just like, u. Oh wait, actually, it's okay. That's fine When was the last time you cried Um, This morning I took the spiciest ginger shot of my entire life that I think I died for a minute and I started crying If we're talking emotionally U Changer shs can do that. Yeah, maybe last week or so I cry a lot, I'd say. What happened When I get drunk, I'm like the sad drunk you cry. I cry. I do. Just becausecause like why are you drinking I will Probablyila No. I was probably on I was probably on a few Guinnesses. Again, I was not expecting that. Yeah. You like you drink. I do. Yes. but also you split the G I'm so bad at that. But I think like I love a cocktail, but I'm always so conscious because I can hear my mom being like, it turns into sugar in your bloodstream. can't enjoy cocktail because But I'll drink auinness. Yeah. It's eighty percent water. It is a bit. You can survive off Guinness and oranges for the rest of your life. just that You should try it. loveven orange What's something you can't leg off? My sisters I would say If there's Anybody in my life that is a non negotiable, I will not have us falling out ever. It would be them ten out of ten answer What's your guilty pleasure Chocolate ight what percent we'd ling in? ninety I like a ny To the point where it's so hard for me to go without it that I give it up for lent And it's a real struggle. that do you ever get like st fllakes in it Yes, I love the I love the orange or even just like a bag of chocolate chips. Oh, it's like ye It's so hard for me. I found these Do you like nuts? I do. Okay, these Dark chocolate salted almonds. No. I'm gonna get you a bag and I gonna send it to your team? Oh please. Okay, and I hope your team here hopefully they'll get it to you. My favorite snack. It they are outrageous When I Before I die, I want to be strapped down with my head open like and theed with oange. Sted with all that. I can't wait Um, turns you off Hh thing Rude. I don't know. there's nothing it takes no energy to just basic respect hundred percent And in general, what turns you on? I I like when people ask questions likeike you're doing. I don't know. I like I'm with you I hate when there's you know, you're awkward and you're sitting with somebody and it's like You're like asking them questions and then they never ask you something about yourself. you're like, oh, okay, I'll leave you alone. I complete agree when people are inquisitive, when people are interested course. hundred percent. What do you like most about yourself character, I think I yeah, I like my personality. Bonus. What would your death row meal be? Oh Probably giant stack of Pancakes I'm a huge pancake fan. I think I think they're massively underrated. In the UK, especially. Yes American pancakes Okay. Chocolate chip. little thing of whipped cream on top. Okay. I would eat half of them form And then I've refrigerate the other half the other half cold because I like when the chocolate chips are a bit hard. We have maple syrup onn the side though, so I can dip it in if I want to. Any bacon M Maybe one or two pieces on the side. Okay, that's great. Thank you so much. Thank you. You've been incredible. You are a fantastic company. Good luck with everything. Thank you. Don't forget me of the Oscars. No, I'm gonna thank you. I will not forget that. I promise you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much I' know

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