Born to Ride and Dick Riding Culture

Y out thought lawyers What is up Her learning is on is Z Van Lithen Junr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay I have a couple of thoughts First of all, I'm coming to the podcast from New York in New York City I'm at than you. than you. I'm at I mean Spotify New York, okay U And you know, the city was alive. The city's alive. It was priide yesterday, everyverybody was going crazy. New York turned into a torque fist last night. You walk around the streets New York people are on top of mail boxes torquking and everybody's throwing ass all around the city for pride. Wait was the parade yesterday or was it Saturday I'm not sure. when I when I into the city. Everybody was everywhere. What a time Cantly clad having fun Yeah. and then I thought it would be over. I went out with some friends then it was they were still getting to it. Yeah, it's not over. What I'm jealous. That's the time. That's a good time to be there. Energy iss good. E going crazy everybody's like, Yo, what's going on, man? B is pride. B I Yo B what's a son I should have done a timer because I knew it was only a matter of minutes could have been seconds before you tempted your New York accent Y's son Yo son, what's us son his Pis son Yo son, love is love, son, Yo, what's up? B? What's happening with you? Sun done, Sn done Sun done, what's up? Son, I'm here with my boyfriend and my girlfriend and my friend friend. It's getting worse him prride, son. Okay, pr. It's getting worse. Why do you do that? Why do you feel like you gotta do that? It's so Everywhere you go, you gotta adapt there acc I become a part of your culture style, so you immediately become part of their culture. So you're one of those people. so when you go, if you go to London, you would immediately start talking with that accent. Try it out.ip Cheo, blolkes. Remember that? Do you remember that Rick Ross? Who remembers that u I call this the coolest English nigga ever So there was a U O one of Rick Ross's albums For some reason It just throws to an English guy talking about how he dresses O this might have been a mixpe Donny. didid you hear this? No, I don't know if I did. Oh, y'all remember this? Hees He goes The soft cashmere socks slip into the leather loafers the smooth gloves. And he's talking about just how How much of a dandy he is like how he dresses and he's talking about how he wears cashmere shcks and soft gloves and all that stuff like that. And I'm like You know That's kind of the English type of bloke I would be if I was running around through London. Boy Lathan on the Thames River. making moves like my man, Jimmy. You know what I mean? my name Jimmy Manua, who is he's a UFC fighter Jimmy be in the boxing ring, you fight with Jimmy, Jimmy beating the shit out of people. Jimmy knock the nigger clean out. Let me tell you something. A couple of years ago we're in the boxing ring and Jimmy is in there. Jimmy's really lethal. He fought in the UFC. His name is Jimmy Paperboy Manua, Manua Um Great guy, right So you know, everybody's in there sparring. and I've sparred with Jimmy before. He's not going as hard as he possibly could There was one guy where he was in there and they did start going as hard as they possibly could Jimmy hits him with a right, knocks this guy clean out. And then goes, a fuckking hell And I was like, whoa That was cool He was mad at himself then it went too far. He knocked the guy out. He goes fucking hell. I'm like, wow Ieresting shout out to my man Jam Paper boy, poster boy posteroy is Is it perore a poster? I think's posteroy. It's poster boy Okay. Jimmy Manuure. Yeah, Post likeike his name is Postable. He's on is lethal. It'll vok you up. You got to Like you're in there spar with him, you know, he's he's he's he gives you good sparring though Beacause if you make a mistake, boom, wake up. How's that going for you How's that boxing going for you You know, you're telling the story, you're sparring, you're still doing your thing. How's that going? Like Be I know you talked about maybe doing a fight, right I still might. Okay. So long time experience box. I'm genuinely asking you, how's it going? We are's going to. I mean, if I was going to actually do like an actual fight, I' have to st wouldn be about getting my hands and my my rounds up. It'd be about like the athletic part of it. It'd be about making sure I'm on top of my road workor, making sure my strength is right and all of that stuff. And at this point, I'm in the gym less than I have been before. I mean, there were times where I was in the gym every single day. And I was like for real boxing and fighting and sppring. But if I was going to do it It M might be something I do for like my fiftieth birthday, just one fight. One fight One fight. It's a hell of a fight. in great shape, midlife crisis, the midlife crisis fight. Okay. Before we move on, I have to say something real quick. Okay. but by being here Spotify World Trade four where We record the podcast Now obviously You know, soccer fever is takaking over. Everybody iss around New York they're kicking the soccer ball. they're like, yo done. what's up, son son pass me give me a one touch, son K Son, you're offside, son and That's the thing But I want to talk about broadly The proper way to take pictures the worldld Tade cent. Okay. This is not Disneylland. All right You see people like if you ever come down here And I just gott to keep it real because I see this every time You ever come down here and T gigantic Basically holes where the World Trade Center towers that fail where they are. Yeah, right? And there's there's a memorial and there's all of that stuff Like we're in buildings here that have replaced the buildings, right? You know? But there are two memorials to it. and people are not from here or maybe they're from here and they take pictures You can't take a picture in front of the wholeo where the World Trade Center used to be like this Yeah I saw a girl doing that And my old white guy almost came out Well, I don't know he was like I one time saw an old white guy I one time saw an old white guy at a doodger game look at somebody behind him and go, Hey, take your hat off because Theh They were singing the national Light Audacity is crazy. That b L the dude was about to dude took his headat off outside T a sh off too Goddamn. And then people started laughing Dude look behind me 'cause, hey, take your head off. I'm like y. An Are you nuts He did it too l took his hat off. I have friends who say they're going to start walking life with wide audacity and see how far it gets them. because the nerve. But go ahead. I didn't know you had an old white man inside of you, all right? J set the rule explain I never really feel that way, right? I saw this, I was walking I saorry. she's like this I might Come on man. J't. is not You know what I'm saying? Whats like It just speaks to a bigger thing. I mean, this Well just be like I'm sure it was a younger person Probably like twenties. Yeah. L there is an out of touchness with reality. It's I mean, you don't even have to have been alive when that happened to know where you were. You just are detached from the gravity of that situation because it's almost like something you read about. It'smost like a story to you. not like something where people experience death and grief and turmoil and it still lingers through all, you know twenty five years later You know? And so I I'm not shocked by it. I just think it speaks to people Don't Gasp tragedy how they don't grasp how like they move past things and they aren't attached to it. whether that's social media, whether that's I don't know. I mean, social media is I guess what I blameing on internet, whatever you wantan to call it It just speaks to where we are. I wouldn't be shocked if Years from now, we get past the war that's happening in Ukraine and between Ukraine and Russia, the war that's happening with Iran. I wouldn't be surprised in Israel and Palestine that people take pictures like that. twenty five years from now You just poured it Justin Slayer Did I Yeah, you went deep Well, I mean, it's just It sad It's sad to me. Like I You didn't think about that when you, ' you were too busy being an OY man. You You were excited that you got to pull that out. I look at it for. I'm man. I did't I didn't this is this is why I didn't think about a larger sort of societal treatise here I guess what you're saying is right. Like I just looked at you're young, you don't understand, hey I don't know if you know, but like You know It's like I also think that I'm getting to an age to where And I have to check this about myself. And everybody should check this about yourselves. People don't want your correction Like I'll be in the basketball. I'll I'll be on the basketball court sometimes. and Now I know why older guys getting to coaching on the basketball court is because They're trying to compensate sometimes for the fact that they can't do the same shit that they used to do. So It's likebody somebody's bustsing your ass, but you still got to find a flaw. You still got to be like Y man, if you take one dribble left, pull up, you're unstoppable You're unstoppable Nigga he's already unstoppable. You can't fuck with He's got six straight And you're trying to tell him he could be better. That's about you and not about him cororrection is a thing. And I want to make sure that I check that myself because as you get older, sometimes you're always pulling somebody to the side to give them a little wisdom. Niga finish your race. and bring the wisdom Finish your race, finish your breakfast All right. Finish your shit So I don't I'm not going to look at the person and be like, hey I don't know if you know, but like this would have been trafficbe think is right that I probably would not have Fed to, I was like, are we being for real now? Like it's not. peopleeople like going crazy on that bitch. I think we live in an administration that capitalizes on the way people move past things like that. It's why people are Yeah. I mean, I think it's why, you know, it's able to say like We're past the civil right We don't need these laws anymore. What? The civil rightights movement so long ago. It's like, oh, like that's literally the mindset. If you can move past something twenty five years, why can't you move past something that happened sixty years ago? This summer, fand doo is the best place to bet on goals. Including equalizers, Uh huh? Rollies? Yeah, headters. Every goal is worth more on fan du. So let there be goals. 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L I don't Yeah we' when I'm driving into Sycamore, which by the way, this place Sycamore has changed my life. I love Sycamore, but they got like a ice drink. They got an ice cream trough over here. Oh. have a little thing It'spotify New Yor It's called ice cream trruck. It's like a little thing and it got little ice cream popsicles in that bitch. Nice I'm just like, you know, Jeff Bill Sycamore is crazy. Not stepp it up Ice cream trough would be nice. A hot day in L.A. ice cream trough. That's all I'm saying. It's a little ice cream trough, okay. But so I went and got this matcha When I'm driving into Sygamore, I sometimes see people is this place is right off Melrose. And there's a and the line is wrapped around the block. It's not So this is Melrose almost when you get to Fairfax. The place is like probably one block up for people down that block all the way around the block And one time I had to make the block because you know, I explore. It's like the same way I got the hat I have to make the blck. I'm like, what are you guys wait in line for 'causeuse I thought maybe it was reading and stuff because back in the day in LA. when I would see people waiting outside, they would be going over sides and shit like that and all that stuff Maybe they're all going for something. I say, what are you guys waiting in line for? And they go, matcha No The TikTok,acha place. was magic Y know, what the fuck what am I missing What am I what am I like what the fuck is happening Z corner fuck Do does the Z corner fuck with Match you fuck with Matcha J. I love matcha Yeah, see, what the fuck I'm talking about But in the last year, I've started fucking with it. What Bernard, do you? No. I can make good matcha, but now I hate macha. It's just not for me. I tried. I don't get the hype. I think you know how it is. everyverybody just like wants to do it to say that they do it. I mean, Jade, I'm not saying that's you. You might genuinely like it, but for the people in line waiting around All of matcha drinks is fake ass niggas. N. Oh, thank you. I'm very particular about the kind of matcha I drink Not everybody can make a matcha I think I think it's got to be a specific ratio of sweetness Creaminess, you know, I mean, it's that's crazy It's not for me. It's not. Okay. so you're done. it ended quickly for you.. yourour matcha fase Yeah. I've had it before. Well I actually tried it. I don't like it. It's not about being old. It's just about it's just an overrated experience. It's an acquiring taste. It's an acquired taste. R right And I'm passing said you said it's a what berard He said it's an acquired taste That's not what he said? I hear. That's not what you said? No, I meant to say that, but yeah Okay, well, don't call him We know what he meant I don't know what it said. He acquired the taste for matcha so that he could have more proximity to white women So that he could go around the white women and was on the matcha with them, Bernard. That's what you acquired. You don't have a taste for matcha. You went in and ordered your matcha. Yo. Gim me matcha five pumps of vanilla. 'a that's what I'm here for. But Bernard, do you know why he can say that? Because there's an old white man living inside of him. He has reveiled us. Okay. goo ahead, Van. Hey No, we don', notot every You don't you feel like you don't have that I could point it out Gonehe pointint it out, noope 'm doing You already did it. You already did it I never said that. You already did it. I don't wantan to do it. But you al dont want to do. I want to do it. I don't want tona go back in the past and all that. I don't want to do it. brought it to the present.ar it We can move on, Donny BT Awards. All right, We're recording on a Monday. The BT Awards was last night. It was hosted by Druski, featured a whole bunch of performances by artists including Cardi B, T.I, Kay Lani, Aria Lennox. Baby Kame I'm missing at whole bunch. There were also performances for there were tributes D' Angelo and Lauren Hill, a bunch of different artists performed during those tributes. There were awards given out You are watch There Wld war given up There were a lot of Icon awards given out specifically. feels like there were like four or five of those Um But yeah Wh'all think of the awards show last night I think that the, uh, the the that The state that question for me was how would Drusky do I thought you did a good j What about you? I thought he did a good job too. What I walked away thinking was you've have to I felt like you had to know Drew skies Stick to understand some of it That was the one thing. It's like you have to follow Jerusy, you have to know about how viral the church skit went. You have to know about his character, the where he dresses up as a white guy in the cippher. I felt like you had to know could have been records I still thought it was funny, but I also follow him. so I'm familiar with all that. and I wondered for someone who's not, would they get it? I thought maybe some of the church stuff went on a little too long Did enjoy the Rje of it all, notot gonna lie. But I thought I thought he did a really good job. I thought he was entertaining. I thought the energy was up So even if you didn't know, I thought you could have at least been entertained. And you know what I also like? he genuinely seemed so happay to be hosting He really did And like not a, I deserve this. I'm taking it for grant, not that I thought he would, but I could just feel how excited he was. Um to be a part of it. So that was good. I mean, other things stood out to me too. I really enjoy Drw Ski and Kiki's moment. I mean, Kiki just is just like next level. Like she's just so funny in anything that she does. And I loved obviously the tributes to D' Angelo and Lauren Hill. I loved watching Lauren Hills. I thought the pairings of the The people who did her songs was just genius And I loved u What else did I? Oh, I loved the Tiana Taylor, Janet Jackson part of course, I don't what's wrong with folks I just saw so much discourse about whether or not Tiana Taylor was deserving of this award. It was Iicon of the year How can you not say that she didn't have an iconic year I'm sorry. I just do not understand why people make it business, but just like a hobby just hate, just to be negative and critical for just no reason. I thought that the moment was beautiful. I thought her speech was super impactful. I love Janet coming out there and presenting the award. I love knowing that they have a relationship off camera where they've really, you know, like she like she said, there's no me without you. They really have a connection and she's encouraged her. She looks up to her And I just thought it was so cool that somebody you admired so much took time out of their day to come present you with something that they believed for you to be as well. I thought it was great I just don't understand why we got to do all of that All very well said, I think Drewki went over really well. I want to ask you about the dochi Sissz thing later that I saw Punch got mad about. that happened when they got played Well, Druski came in with like the saxophones, whatever the music, whatever and doji and Sizzle were up there and a punch from from TDE not appreciate that and like call Drwki and BTL for it. see if you thought that was. we'll talk about that in a second Two things. O about him, one about Tiana Taylor. All right, for Druski U I think your point is well taken that you have to know the sketches I think BT and a lot of people are are doing two things. One, they're assuming that Druski has broken through to enough of the audience to where they'll understand those references, whichich is a huge deal. I want people to think about this Think about difference in two things. When a celebrity is pitching you something and they're on your screen Like they're selling you like I don't know some kind of juice or a mutual fund or something. There's two different types of celebrities that sell you that stuff One is a celebrity where there's no lower third The person's face is just on there Then there's a celebrity. We're at the bottom It tells you who they are Those are two different types of celebrities. The one celebrity is the company is expecting that you know who this person is And that's the power of it The other one is the company says you might know who they are, but in case you don't Let me tell you why it matters what they say about this thing. Right? You see this all the time But those are like justust from a cultural standpoint, two distinct things. I think this was BT doing the first thing, the Druski. Hey This is Droski With everything that Jusky's done, particularly in the last year, the church one the Erica Kirkwin, they've gone so broad and his appeal is so broad. We don't really have to hold your hand through like whether or not you know Druski. Secondly, they're also trying to bring in people that you know Juusy because here's the deal That Erica Kirkschhit, seventy five million in like two days. It's probably up to like one hundred, two hundred or something like that now. of people who saw it. There's a point to where You don't just want Drwki to sell Druski as somebody that everybody knows. you want the people that are watching Drwki on Instagram and Twitter and not watching the BT Awards to tune in because Ain't no seventy five million people ain't one hundred million people. That's like the fucking Superballl. Right now. I know it's a different medium. Twitter and all that stuff is right you don't have to commit to it it's two minutes. But you want those people to tune into the BT awwardards to see Dreuski C have been records and all of that stuff. You're trying to get a new audience as well to the award show when the ratings come out That'll probably be the real tail on whether or not they were able to get any of Druski's audience to come in.. So like if there's a little bit of a bump, even a little bit of a bump You would almost have to attribute it to him. Yeah. So a couple Yeah, I was I was trying to look and see if the numbers were out. I couldn' see anything Um, Yeah. I definitely think there's going to be a bump. But I think it's a couple I thought I think it's going to be a couple of things. I think you had really great performers. I think the Lauren Hill of it all. Um, drew me in. like even if we weren't going to talk about this, I probably would have watched it period, just because I really would have wanted to see the Luren Hill. D Angelo tributees. So I just think that there's certain factors in it, but I yeah, to your point, absolutely think the numbers are going to be there are going to show that that there was an improvement I really do. Japan up one nothing on Brazil right now in the footy football situation Goddamn footy. We're at thirty one minutes in the first half. and I got to tell you something. I haven't been able to watch this game, but what I really felt about this game was that If Japan was able to maintain their attacking momentum and make sure that they kept Brazil on the back foot If Japan was able to use their feet, if they were able to run around in different patterns and circles and different ways, they would be successful in this game Fotball expert, family Why are you talking? like know I'm talking like that because I know football, I know soccer Secondly, I'll say this. You guys I'm just gonna to be honest with y' A lot of people I know I don't want to use that we term because it's too much of an umbrella term A lot of people that I know unfairly energetically and enthusiastically rooting for Tiana Taylor Yeah. like There's a crop of young black female performers Tiana y like couple of other ones that are starting to get their just due. There' a bunch of them that I think deserve more. I always bring up Coco Jones and all these people are coming right behind them. Somebody told me, said, Hey, Van, you keep bringing up Coco Jones In terms of acting, just let you know Cocoo Jones wants to be a singer more than an actor. somebody told me I was like, okay, cool, I'll stop. I just watched her in the new movie that just dropped on Pacock. So Yeah it just came Mol Dee shout to Malol Dileee I thought we were supposed to do that for unwrapping the real, but I don't think came together Um If you've been around for a long time Sianna Taylor partarticularly in this city or from inside the industry, Tiana Taylor, has been Just the loveliest Nicest Most genuine person. for a long time just around the town. She comes around likeike when she's U younger a younger performer all the way up through this time. differenterent iterations of who she is, different iterations showing off her talent. and she is just It's if you've ever had any interaction with her, it's difficult not to want to see her are realize all this tremendous potential actress, as a singer, as a personality, I could see her host in the BT Awards. Easily. here. Obviously, I could see Kiki. So like You know, it's There is something to be said. I'm not going to drone on about this There's something to be said about the energy that you put out. and how people want for you when you put out that energy We all we talk a lot about how some of our Most accomplished people are assholes But we accept them as assholes because you have to be an asshole to be that great Do y Now. I'm sure do you? And If that is true, fine That just makes at least for me or want to appreciate the people aren't assholes to the ifth degree. the people that could make it there and still have something good to say or always have a good word for you or always like put out and sow good energy into this land and into this profession. And there are a lot of people like that There are lot of people who are like that And so when you see those people, you just want them to have everything that they're supposed to have peopleeople haven't been perfect. Nobody's perfect. All kinds of stuff has happened. people they don't always get it right. I'm not saying that, but Tiana Taylor is somebody that I know a little bit don't have a tremendous relationship with her, but I legitimately root for her in everything that she does because She's decent. And she legitimately roots for other people. That's a's not even just about being nice and genuine. She genuinely cheers on and roots for other people. And I think that's something that you don't always see either. But like Also well deserved because, you know, you bring up Kiki you bring up Um Tiana, even Coco. These people have been working in the industry for decades. Yeah, like they didn't just pop up. They've been putting in the work and the work is paying off. And that's a beautiful thing to say, especially when you also see that it didn't change them along the way The dochi scissor thing didn't bother you at all. It was a joke. I think No, it was a joke.un Punch wasn't happy. Well, I mean That makes sense. Those are his artists, but I thought it was a joke and it gave something to people something to talk about. I didn't yeah But I get it, I get it But I don't think was m. Overall, successful I had the BT awards . I thought I thought u that u that Drusky did a good job. and I'm very interested in the prospect that Kiki could host next year that would be awesome Yeah. Yeahah. I wonder if I thought, okay, Drewki, I could see him hosting another year, but then definitely. K Whenever she wants it, I feel like it's hers. could do dance numbers. Kiki could be out there on stage with Jan Jackson going crazy, because she's got lot of offers that'll be awesome if she did that Okay, let's get some legal shit. Yeah, let's switch gears. In a six three decision last week, the Supreme Court gave the Trump administration the go ahead to strip temporary protective status from Thousands of citizens of Syria and Haiti, despite shortcomings in the officials' attempts to gauge the impacts that such moves will have. Just for context, TPS is granted to individuals whose home countries are unable to accommodate them due to war or natural disasters. And in the commentary after this decision, Meghgan Kelly Let it be known that she was a fan of this decision in a way that Meghan Kelly does best. And look, this has been going on for over a dozen years. Go home. O. We know our countryes better than yours. That's because we filled it. our work ethic and our culture and our values. You being here only dilutes it for us, those who built it and live it. And half of you people more than half of you won't assimilate We don't want you We don't care if you're offended. Get out. Go home. Go back to fucking Haiti. sorry I'm thinking about our friends in Ohio who've been dealing with these TPS Haitians for years now Who are drunk driving all over their towns and killing people. This is the whole cats and dogs thing Don't. wantant to live likeike Americans live. This is supposed to be a temporary It was supposed to be temporary help and it's turned into another backdoor way of allowing someone permanent residency here That's it. Yeahah, we can cut gargamill off. I mean, where to begin It's You know, I say this often that the thing speaks for itself, but like Mhm. Somebody who has such vitriol and hatred for a group of people is exactly why Judge Kagan wrote the dissent in the way that she did with this Supreme Court decision because Yes It's temporary protected status. It has the word temporary in it And there were a couple of arguments that were made by the plaintiffs, which were the Haitians in this case, even though it's Haitians and Syrians that are at issue Um There are a couple of things there which, you know, The temporary part of it, eventually, yes Like you you're not necessarily here forever You know that temporary protected status is one. The biggest thing is the humanitarian relief of it all. It's about providing a safe haven. It's about the humanitarian effort, which is something that Meghgan Kelly other people that are the driving force behind taking this away from people do not possess no heart No desire to help. They look at certain people as garbage, as disposable and in no way want to focus on the whole reason that this temporary protected status even exists. and they want to send people back to a place that is still there It's not ready, right? Like you know it's the temporary protective status is given to people who where their countries, it's not safe for them to return, whether it be an environmental disaster, whether it be some other extraordinary condition, whether it be ongoing armed conflict And just to send these people back when they've been living here, when they've contributed to our society, inststead, you're painting a picture as if they're terrorizing people is just so reckless, so harmful, so dangerous, so disgusting. I could keep going on about the words and the rhetoric in which she's spewing. And so yes, it temporary protective status comes up, it's reviewed And it's and that was one part of it. But the other part of it that the plaintiffs were arguing in which really speaks to the hatred and the racism that Meghgan Kelly was putting out there is was discrimination a motivating factor in taking away the temporary protected status. And Judge Kagan lays it out so well in the dissent and really calls out the majority here because people voted on party lines with this. It was the six Three decision that You claim that racism was not a motivating factor by Trump. yet you won't name the racist things that he said Nerous things that he said particularly about Haitians. You use it as a catch all. Well, it's not just Haitians. there are all these other countries as well that are going to be reviewed. Well, look at what those countries look like and then compare it to what he said when why can't we get people from Sweden and Norway? Look at how he's treating white people from South Africa South Africa and giving them packets with Android tablets and things like this unprecedented bags, welcome bags that you don't see happen ever before. When you compare that versus this, clearly race is the only difference is race. That's the motivating factor of it. Look at how he views the country, the people that come from it, the lies and hatred and racism that he spews, and yet you still want giving him the benefit of the doubt and making excuses on his behalf and not recognizing the underlying issue is here. It is discrimination And that is exactly why it's why Stephen Miller is the one the driving force before this. You're trying to also have a reason to deport people so you can meet the numbers that you promised your base that you would do. It's just It's so sad And I just don't understand anybody who can support this, who can agree with this any kind of way, How can you understand what's still happening in these countries and the reason that they came here and how they have been positive for the country and then say, well, we just want to she them back. go go away Go away. It's just Bad As far as I'm concerned, Haitians should be able to come to America in droves. be granted political asylum. and refugee status as soon as they get here and be offered an immediate path to citizenship every single one of them. Yeah Every single patient I don't think TPS goes far enough. H I'm a A'ma The radical Haitian immigration Nisted First of all, we should say that every single thing that Mean Kelly just said is a lie All right, so local officials, law enforcement and state leaders have confirmed there's no evidence that Haitian immigrants in Ohio are committing crimes at higher rates than other demographics The vast majority of the community resides and works in the area legally. okay? That was the TPS that we were talking about. the pet abduction stuff lies. McKelly is lying All right. I'm not going to take you guys all the way back to like seventeen ninety nine. but I'm gonna put a little bit of this stuff in there, right Haitia Haia. Haiti has been intentionally and this is the thing that I don't drives me the most about all of this stuff It's the intentionality of it. The way Meghan Kelly is talking about Haiti and Haitians exactly the same way that white supremacy And systemic racism talks about black people as if people made the decision. culturally, they tried to separate C tru and political Observations R? Cultural political and economic observations. So you boil it down to a cultural situations. Well, culturally black people have decide to commit their lives to crime or commit their lives to A homes that peopleeople might say are broken. Whatever the fucking thing is, okay, all the tropes. None of which are true But there's a cultural decision to be that way. There's you it's a part of your culture makes these outcomes what they are And there's two reasons why they do that. One, an indictment like that maintains the hierarchy that white supremacy exists inside of. That indictment says, hey, we're just better than you Yeah L That's why the reason why this stuff works out the way that it works is we're just better than you, right? The intentionality of U. White supremacies existence in America for a long time is the thing that goes under The radar 's I keep screaming this. I'm gonna to be screaming it stop screaming at people in front of Worldrade Center and screaming this. That's why I should be out there screaming. It's like the stuff that's being done has been and is being done on purpose. And what was done to Haiti was on purpose punish those black people for throwing off their slavers and the United States played a gigantic part in it. The French got the ball rolling by making Haiti pay reparations to them for liberating themselves Then making the Haitian government, making the Haitian people Take out loans on top of the debt that they had to France. So they had a debt to France. for reparations for beating the French back, then they had to pay to take loans French banks on that debt So we're talking about billions and billions of dollars in today's money that did not go back into the economy of Haiti. And you might say hey, that's a Haiti French problem What does that to do with the United States of America? Well, what it has to do with the United States of America is in the early part of last century, the United States America of America became directly involved by propping up certain leaders in Haiti. reflected what the United States wanted, which was to stem the tide of leftist and socialist movement in Latin America And they did that And it had the Marines at one point, this is true The Marines at one point into Haiti and stole gold bars and then took the gold bars to Washington Citig Group is the bank now. But it wasn't Citigroup then It was, I can't remember the name of what it was then. It was a completely different institution was extracting wealth out of Haiti with help from the U.S. government I think it was Roosevelt FDR who bragged that he basically wrote the Constitution We were heavily meddling in Haiti to keep the wages of the people there low so that everything that they produce, very valuable island for sugar back in the day, I can't remember the other crop to keep the wages of the Haitian people low so that we could continue to extract the resources out of Haiti with no recourse. That along with you know like the political instability, you know, a couple of earthquakes and stuff like that, and you have Haiti in the situation that it's in now. in terms of repaying those debts to France and then You guys direct Direct intervention by the United States direct intervention over a course of decades. There was a guy in the nineties that came up and became the president of Haiti and he was going to lead reforms to increase wages in Haiti to like change the way things worked to share more with the people. The United States got involved right away Got involved right away G guy was kidnapped When he came back, he had if he wanted to stay in power, what he had to do then was kind of acquiesce to the West We have impoverished those people. We've done that to them. Like we've done that to them They're not running from Haiti. They're running from the United States of America. They're running for the conditions that were created in their country by this country There is no, it's true. Truth It's true Cracker fucking book Have some responsibility for yourself. I'm not making anything up. Everything I just said is true They have over time, tried had leaders who were interested and governing for the Haitian people. They've had that. We got involved. We put our thumb on them I'll tell you something else last thing I'll say as I make my pro Haitian r rant, I'll be a flaging You could also make another argument The United States, a large portion of the United States Oh was Hiti. I was hating that we owe them, that our relationship with them should be different because of what black people in Haiti did directly for the United States of America You might ask how Okay, well this how The Haitian Revolution Ah was only one part. Oh Hated becoming hatei The Haitian Revolution was Um who saw it and the rest of the guys getting rid of slavery out of Hait Heady independence come a little bit later Even after the revolution, there was still like, You guys, I'm not a historian is just What I know from trying to get involved in different struggles of blacks around the world Haiti wasn't quite independent after they threw off their slavers They weren't Now this this is what's interesting about this. this is an interesting thing I've always thought this was interesting. Thiss never almost never gets talk about. Okay, so Haiti throws off their slavers And then Um Napoleon is in power in France And Napoleon decides that he wants to reconstitute his empire in North America which had kind of been crumbling. So France was kind of getting out of the North America game or're getting out of the Americaas game Napoleon comes to power and Napoleon goes Well I want back in? I want to be u, you know, a worldwide wieer of power So Napoleon decides in order to fund this this thing that he's going to do, which is go back and get power in North America again, that he needs slavery in Haiti again that he has to be able to, this is going to be expensive So in order to extract as many resources out of Haiti as they needed that they have to go back in and reintroduce slavery. Now I should say that even after The Haitians threw off their slavers They still had the sugar plantations. because Tusson Um U Tusant basically said, hey, the economy is going to be based around these sugar plantations. I don't even want to get into how brutal slavery was in Haiti peopleeople came A other places when people were taken and kidnapped and brought to Haiti be to work on sugar plantations, how long do you think they lived Maybe seven years Three years I like it rural conditions because another thing that kind of doesn't get discussed when you're having these conversations is the different experiences that you would have based upon the type of stuff you're actually harvesting, whether or not you were you know, it' indigo or whether it was rice, whether or not it was cod, whether not it was sugar, and where you're doing it at brutal, terrible conditions, right? That's an aside. So anyway, But Toussant said, hey, we still need the plantations. So these plantations still existed. It's just that people were being paid anyway So Napoleon goes, can't have that, we need slavery back because we need all of his money so I can reconstitute North America. Napoleon sends his brother, Leclerc Uh since him to Haiti Like we're going to take Katie back and re impplelement slavery Kickl clerkss fucking ass The Haitians. Now things didn't work out so well for Toussant Tousussant ended up. He wasn't particularly popular in Haiti And Because you know, the guy for whatever reason, he ends up getting arrested by the French and then he dies. in a French prison Um, but The Haitians there G the shit out of Leclerc But it wasn't just them that beat the shit out of Leclerc It was u Obviously disease. like yellow fever was something that like I think you ended up dying of yellow fever Leclerc is Napoleon's brother in law So They get they get their asses kided. They can't retake the island and bring slavery back. The Haitian slaves there Once again Ecuse me. apologize The free people of Haiti Leave that in The free people of Haiti feed off imperialism They win. Again beat them, they came back, they beat them again. Well what happens after that A that Napoleon gives up. his dream of reconstituting his empire in North America gettingetting all that stuff back together. And do you know what Napoleon does? He gets out of the North America business. Do you know how he does it Does anyone know what Napoleon did to get out of the North American business. anybody on this anybody on the recording say He sold a large portion of fridch holdings Thomas Jefferson And that was called the Louisiana purchase So if you live in parts of Texas Iowa North Dakota, South Dakota, parts of Louisiana Those black motherfuckers You your state The fact that they resisted imperialism And they beat the French. allow them in feed them. fun with them Pus say becausecause without them, You might not have the part of the United States. those people that fought for their freedom. that threw off their slavers and their imperialist Fucking bastards That helpeled your putrit idea of manifest destiny Beat Napoleon back, Napoleon then sold part of the United States to Thomas Jefferson, the Louisiana purchase happens. that is downstream from the fact that he could not make Those people accept bondage again. It is the most remarkable story. One up in recent human history But yet we continue to treat the Haitian people Tontinue to treat them notot as people who accomplish all of that stuff. notot as people who are pioneers in freedom pioneers in self realization and actualization. We continue to treat them like wards of a failed state without ever ever acknowledging the fact that we are punishing them and have punished them. Kadates because they wanted to be free. It is the most un American thing that has ever existed. You can go don't fucking take my word for it There are political differences here between the way Haitians are treated, between the way Cubans are treated. All of that stuff is politics, All of that stuff is about American adventuring and who they want to be in powerware, all of that stuff As far as I'm concerned It's not even about fuck, Meghan Kelly. That's that's the standing rule here on the podcast. As far as I'm concerned any halfway objective historical analysis of what's happened in Haiti historically and in a contemporary sense means In order to be good people In order to be a good members of the world community We would have to not just be involved in settling Haitians here in America but of helping to fix Haiti in a robust way And Bill Clinton and his fucking cronies, they fail, made things worse Barack Obama wasn't particularly good on this issue. No one has been interested. in helping out fix what America broke and that is the same fucking problem that you have here when it deals with black people. The same terrorism the same booots on our necks All of that stuff. that people can't come to terms with that they want to come back at a bird's eye view and say, hey, you got a bad culture. That's why these outcomes are happening to you. It's the same for black people everywhere, but we have to pretend like it ain't people like Meghgan Kelly can sit somewhere and feel like they're better than a bunch of black people from Haiti. It's a lie And it drives me crazy almost to the point where I want to fucking rip this. it's a lie. It's a fucking lie. It's notue. It's just it's not true. It's like honestly not true Very well. I'm sorry guys. No, that was like that was that went well that' went on way too long ago. don't I'm trying to like donon't apologize. Listen I think it speaks to the underlying issue that a lot of what we have been told is ae because America wants to paint itself a certain way and doesn't want to reconcile the past actions of you know, their beloved, whether it be a president, politician, whatever, like in the same way, as simple as things we were told about George Washington and other founding fathers that turned out not to be true. It's the same thing when it comes to the way we're involved with other countries, their governments, their people, what we're motivated by and how America isn't better some than another country or another imperialist country just because they decided to leave one and then create their other. It really is a thing. and the lives will continue because nobody wants to feel bad about the not nobody. They don't wan to feel bad about their past actions. They don't want to have to revisit and answer things that they did. They w to pretend they didn't happen build from there and not understand to your point, which is why I'm not going to say you went on too long, the root of where it all started And it's just a theme. It's just a theme here. And not just not just the rooutot like right now, we're talking like a couple of years ago Kinions and the United States government deciding Who's going to run and lead Haiti and all of that stuff. It's been go listen to Ryan Grim You know talk to Matt Walsh about this. That's when I started like really getting in to the weeds go listen to Ryan Gramm talking. There's clip, guys. I almost almost want to play the clip Where Matt Walsh comes on, I think we should Well I'll see how Rachel feels about it. whereere Matt Walsh comes on And he comes on breaking points and he's talking to Ryan Grham And he tries to get one over on Ryan about Haiti and why Haiti sucks and all of that stuff. and you just listen to Ryan just shred him. after point about how the United States government has been involved immiserating the Haitian people and what that actually means. And then on the other side of it, I gotta listen the fucking Meghgan Kelly come over here and say a bunch of different shit into her camera. like she knows what the fuck is going on We're getting sick of this shit. 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Ask your doctor about Trmphia today. Call one eight hundred five two six seven seven thirty six to learn more. orr visit trmphiaradio d. com What should we do next? Rachel, what do you want to do next U Let's go to Tucker Carlson That's a good transition from Megan to Tucker U On a recent episode of the podcast Can't Be Censored, Tucker Carlson made it clear that he is no longer a supporter of the GOP. I would not support the Republican Party. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party. notot going to support the Democratic Party. I don't know what I'm going to do point You know, how could you support how could I or any American voter support a political party that's not loyal to the United States puts the interest of a foreign country above those of its own citizens. Like that's that's, you know, it's not possible to vote for people like that and I'm not going to. And I think I voted Republican my entire life I worked at Fox News. I've CNN MSNBC. I've been consonsistent defender for thirty five years of the Republican Party. I mean, very consistent defender There's no defending this because it's immoral and it's exactly the opposite of what a political party and a democracy is charged with doing, which is representing its own voters, its own citizens, its own nation. and they're not doing that. So no, I'm out. And if I'm out that I think a lot of other people are at. Is that meaningful to you at all Now No, no. It's not meaningful Um I feel like it's a signal. especially the last part of what he says, when he says, if I'm out That means a lot of people are out And it immediately made me think of watching JD Vance doing the rounds right now Yes, he's promoting his book But he's also putting himself out front and center. Because we know that he is going to run in twenty twenty eight and All I kept thinking when I saw because we know just because Tucker Carlson says he's not a part of any party and so I guess he's independent. As I said before on this podcast when we were talking. I don't trust anything he does because the intent the intentionality to me of Tucker is rooted in racism. We saw what he would do for his show. We saw the rhetoric that he would spew out, the lies that he would tell, the way he would play into racism and all kinds of things that is who Tucker Carlson is. He doesn't need to be tied to a specific party. But the last sentence was important to me about if I'm out so are other people because I think that is a message to the right of You need to get it together before midterms are different, but before the election. I think that when I see Jie Vance as I said And yah he's promoting this book, I think I can see him distancing himself from the things of this current administration. I think Tucker saying a lot of people are going to be feeling like this or do feel like this is them saying you're going to have to start changing your messaging and what you do for the next presidential election. That's how I took this. So is that meaningful? Maybe, but it was signaling to me more than anything. I'm not holding too much weight on him not identifying with the Republicans. fine. But what I do think he's doing is talking to the rights And I think he's trying to put out a certain message Hm So we'll talk about the DSA and the tensions inside the Democratic Party like right after this, we'll like kind of go back and forth. I think it is meaningful Um And I think it's meaningful for the reasons you just said H So A couple of things. Number one, Vance is done, Vance is cooked Vance has if evvance If Vance is able to rebound from this And the Republican nomination, to me, it will say two things One, it'll say that like people are just eager for a continuance of that type of direct to Trumpism becausecause Vance now has to be a rubber stand for this. a rubber stamp for this type of Trumpism when I say rubber stamp, I mean, a lot of people view JD Vance as the cool headed adult in the room whichich is why and Donald Trump knows that people think of them that way. Donald Trump knows that people think that Avan is the Pragatist So that's why he puts JD Vance front front center in all it this. He puts them front center to make him bend the knee to all of these things that he might be pulling back on. I'm not saying that there's any type of rebellion rhetorically coming from JD Vance for these tenets of Trumpism. What I'm saying is that he probably wouldn't have launched the Iran war. It's probably something that he wouldn't have done Right? And so because is known that he wouldn't do that. And it is reported of all these are the people from inside the administration that don't want this then Trump makes JD Vans go out and sell it He makes JD Vans go out and be the guy to talk about it. so he can't run from it. So If in fact, JD Vance were a year from now, two years from now come away as the front runner in the Republican Party for their nomination, it would be those people basically saying that We don't care about the Irana. We don't care about a lot of this stuff. We want the same old thing. Yeah. person that is far enough away from that att least right now, seemingly to benefit from it In twenty eight would be Marco Rubio That's the guy that even though he's on board for all of it. Right. For whatever reason He's not quite as directly tied to it. He's not being made the face of it. He's playing a very interesting political game right now where he says all the right things, completely backs the president, but is able to stay in the shadows a little bit. Build back Quite frankly political momentum that was completely destroyed when he tried to run for president before. Donald Trump completely eviserated him and neutered him and made him look like a sort of Dick Kinseian paper or please like whatever he justs going completely cut his balls off But he's building strength and he's kind of actually even a sort of a formidable challenger to the left in twenty eight. I say all that to say If Jie Vance represents the continuation of that The question is how strong will that continuation be How strong of a contingent will still exist in the hardcore magnness Anything that damages that contingent, is good Anything that damages to me the contingent of hardcore strent MGa fascism that exists is good Tucker Carlson isn't good I'm not saying Tucker Carlson is good. I'm not guys, I'm not saying Tucker Carlson is good. He was funny on his podcast when he got it at Mark Levndo. I laughed. I'm not saying he's good, but I'm saying anything that weakens That weakens and causes dissension inside of that hardcore Mga base is good. The fact that is seemingly at odds now with Markco Vin and Ben Shapiro and the rest of these guys because Geez. in some way, trying to signal that there could be a break in the American Israeli U Hegemony in the Middle East Even that, like when you see Mark Levin criticizing the deal, criticizing Donald Trump. when you see Ben Shapiro, when you see all of these people, when you see that Who knows how solid Those brakes are But that is good becausecause this particular political coalition The mag al right is It's pernicious in a way that I don't think very many political movements have been before. It's when you look at just downstream like what has happened to people and what has happened to black people in this particular coalition, It's been kind of a resurfacing of a lot of Jim Crow era, not just politics, but outcomes. And they're able to do that because how strong they are. becausecause everything that Donald Trump says is a law That idea has to crumble even before the political coalition does. And so people that are willing to buck that, it doesn't make them good They are not good is a good thing I think I keep thinking about timing And it's twenty twenty six. haven't even had the midterms yet and there's so much time. for things to change. This is why I said, I look at it as a signal to get it together So much can change between now and the presidential election or whoever is chosen as the Republican nominee that I I hear Tucker Carlson, right I think it would be more powerful to me if he said, I'm a Republican and this is how I feel becausecause he's separating himself from he has different beliefs and therefore he's separating himself from the party If he said he was a Republican and felt this way, it would make me feel like that there was a bigger division in the party because that is what we're seeing happening with the Democrats, which we're going to talk about next. People are still identifying themselves within the party per se and are causing a division, which is playing into the hands of the other side. I'm not quite seeing that yet because what we do know with the Republicans is And unless Tucker Carlson's if the Republicans stay where they are and Tucker Carlson stays where they are, then yeah, there's a division. But what we have seen is when pedal hits the metal. Is that how the saying goes When shit hits the fan when it all when it all comes Rubber meets the road. Thank you. I'm so bad at these kind of things. When the rubber meets the road, they will come together. to push the same messaging If it's a lie If so that's why I'm like the timing We have two years to see what happens in this. And I look at it as in like, hey guys, we all got to get on the same messaging. Either we all get with this or we all get this or we come together somewhere in between. I feel better if he still identified with the GOP. So it's interesting because I still see at the end you cant identify with the GOP and not be Maga because now Trump will call you a rhino. So like he's so throwing so throwing off the GOP is the only way to throw off Maga. You can't if you are a Republican inside of the MAGA coalition and You're not on board with everything that Donald Trump says. You get Bill Cassidy, you get Thomas Masy, you get legitimately cast off until the wilderness. So saying that you throw off the GOP is saying that you that you're not mad at I agree with that I'm saying that I think that As things get closer to twenty twenty eight, if things stay the same, right? let's just say we're still in this war, the economy is still bad. Like the whole thing that you ran on on this populist message, people cannot believe in that anymore after watching you after this second term. They just can't. They can't hold onto it. So a Tucker's message becomes more powerful I'm saying that Um I just see that whoever runs in twenty twenty eight for them will all rally around that I guess is what I'm saying. I think he is signaling for them to change it or to jump on what he's saying. I guess is my point. And I think that whoever runs will eventually do that as well. I think they will have to separate themselves from Trump, or Trump will back off and lean more into some of these things that are more popular within his party in light of this troubling economy, inflation an unpopular war, all of that I guess that's that's what I'm saying. So it's like of something to know. I just am I just I'm not looking at this and like, o, there's trouble within the GOP at this point. I'm not there yet with this message. I'm more concerned in what's happening right now after this New York race and how moderate Democrats are responding because they literally are dividing the party outright And on can.'s like just not getting it. Hm Yeah, according to Axios, moderate House Democrats are warning that they're prepared for quote war incoming Democratic social preare they prepare for war. Trying to If VSA members try to hijack the House floor, they say. No, this is all coming after New York Congressional primaries on Tuesday served as a wake upp call for many Democrats on the hill SA members, Dareliza, Avila, Chevalier and Claire Valez both won competitive primaries. There also was this video going around of a crowd at Valez's victory party when repepresentative Jaquim Jeffrees is on CNN on the screen. This is how the crowd reacted. What are they saying? They're saying you're next.re Okay. so let me say something about that real quick I saw somebody point this out on Twitter. 'cause I like to I'm I'm a man of the people I am not offended as much by the centrist Democrat people Right? I'm not, I'm not offended by them. I'm to the left of them. I'm not offended by them. I understand. I get it They're my brothers and sisters, we can have disagreements. but I don't have to like I don't have to agree with them all the way politically. to understand that there's a safety that black Americans feel with A lot of Black Americans feel within the structure of the Democratic partarty. I think it's fair to have a conversation about whether or not that safety should continue to exist or whether or not we should start doing some other stuff Um But I saw some people point out that the optics of a bunch of white people pointoing to a screen where Hakim Jeffrees up there is up there and saying you're next's not good. And they're right. They're right about that. That's that cannot be just casually dismissed And I've said this for a long time and I'll continue to say it The left which is the DSA which is politically, probably, not politically, probably, which is politically my home. needs to understand some of the nuances of racial politics in America And if you truly want to court bllack voters and black people, you're going to have to do that because The thing about the Republicans has always been what the Republicans, you see a lot of people go, Hey, why don't you guys U Vote Democrat, why don't you guys get excuse me vote Rublican, Wh don't you guys vote Republican, don' you guys just give it a spin, give it a spin, whyy not? whyy not? why not? And the answer to the question is you won't let us People Black people that I know that are conservative that lean a little bit more conservative, have to almost they almost have to be moderate Democrats because the base of the Republican partarty is so viciously racist So viciously racist with the way they attack black people to build their political power. that no black person any type of race, consciousness or self esteem would ever be a Republican ever be a Republican becausecause in order to be a B black Republican you got to say shit like Maybe we were better off During Jim Crow And there's no coincidence that that was said. And then there was a political movement to sort of bring back Jim Krub. rightight? And the left has to learn that lesson. The left has to learn the lesson of you going talk to us nice Because if you don't talk to us nice then we can't believe anything else that you say. The first thing that needs to happen with black people in this country from any political movement is an acknowledgement Oh. istory and of current time and an understanding. And if you're not prepared to do that We won't be friends. And I'm on the left, but that is a fact. If you're not prepared to do that, then we can't be friends. So when someone says, hey, Jaakim Jeffrey fucking sucks, but maybe don't point at the screen and go, you're next because that looks like a slave aption They were doing it to Coreory Booker two, not saying you're next, but yelling at him pointing at him at the Texas Democratic convention too differentifferent reasons, money that he takes, but ye still the same optics look the same of white people yelling at a black politician Sticks look at the sandle. Um The Democrats I don't know, Van, you answer the question Why Why do you feel Other than power, right? O than a fear of you losing your power and your place within the system Why is the reaction so extreme How is it so why is it so hard for you to realize that writing a letter and trying to get other mod moderate publishing it And then trying to get other Democrats to sign it order to fight against To fight within your party, int fighting, how do you not realize that that is furthering the agenda of the other side How do you not realize that the right is capitalizing on not the phrase Democratic socialist, but socialist They are literally taking that word and weaponizing it against this party and notot even correctly, which is not shocking from the other side saying what the initiatives are of the democratic Socialist movement. And you are going to play ball pretty much with them by saying that they're a threat and using words that're at war within our party and not listening to the populist message of what the people are saying. Furthermore, I know the attention is on New York And I know with Mondani getting elected and then him putting his name and successfully being able to The people he supported were able to beat out people who had been in Congress for years, people with maybe more extreme views, not maybe more extreme views than Mum Dani. and they're able to win. I understand that that's like maybe eye opening for you, but it's also New York. If you look at races around the country, these aren't the type of people necessarily, not necessarily. theseese aren't the type of Democrats that are winning their primaries. These aren't the type of Democrats that are even being positioned. The messaging in New York and what lands in New York is not going be the same that lands in an b a suburban place in a blue state. So the extreme reaction from the Democrats to show everybody that there's this fighting within is like once again, how were you not getting it I'm not saying that like they shouldn't be paying attention to it, but the way they're reacting, can you help me understand it because I'm like, here we go again for different reasons, but here we go again. I would like to say that Brazil has tied this game. This is a highly anticipated round of thirty two game Brazil seems to be matriculating down the field with The exuberance of the Jogo Benita Od beautiful game that they play in Brazil It's they are attacking well and responding well in Japan. continues to press on U now. So a couple of things One This was a closed prime area in New York where voters came out and voted for the candidates that they wanted to vote and the Democrats lost The Democrats didn't lose the Democats w The center of the party loss. This was a closed primary clows primary There was't bunch of Republicans coming in here or it's a closed primary in New York where they came out. And the center of the party lost All right It's interesting The Democrats or the classic centrist Democrats are doing this. It's interesting that they're going about this way They're going to war for their party. What I wanted them to do was not go to war against the DSA. I wanted them to go go to war against Joe Manchin and Kristian Cinema when They were holding up everythingthing that would benefit black people in the party Right? Like when Joe Manchin wouldn't vote for voting rights or Joe Manchin wouldn't vote for justice in policing. with like when he wouldn't vote for that, I wanted them to go to war against him Well what I kept hearing was that they couldn't What a valuable vote he was, what a valuable person. So All of the people that I'm talking to that we're having a conversation with that I see are like we have to go to war against the DSA. Well It's not that I didn't want the Democrats to go to war I wanted them to pick a different war. I didn't want them to pick a war that is against the progressive wing of their party I wanted them to pick a war that was stopping them from achieving the agenda Parts thegend, part of the agenda that they said that they wanted parts of the agenda that I think a lot of black people voted for. But they didn't choose that war. They chose this war They chose like that' not the war that they chose, right? Yeah. Now I'm not going to act I'm not going to be naive and say that like there weren't people who were calling out Joe Manchin and Christin Sinema But I am saying it it we had to drag them to that point. There was no l continuously Yeah, like we had to drag them to the point. We have to continuously ask like you guys, you got a couple of people in your political cohort that don't seem to be on the same page with this. This stuff is important Like you guys have a couple of people that don't seem like they're on board what it is you guys are trying to do. And now we see that the assault on voting rights is has been realized, right? U And those things aren't exactly a one to one, There were always fishures inside of the party, and some of the fishures inside of that party had direct victims that looked like you and I Um What I would also say about all of this is It's a bad look to me that they're able to muster this type of energy when We've been asking them to muster this type of energy For years I'm not talking about mansion and cinema. directly right now I'm talking about Are great I saw Rhetorical and energetic unity. from the Democratic Party against the DSA I haven't seen since the Obama administration And I am being serious. And I think I know why I think If you're talking about MAGa Maga. is something that has to exist. for the Democrats, the center of the Democratic partarty to continue to be powerful They have to have that enemy They have to have that foil. They have to have people on the other side so they can say, you know what? It's actually about it's not about what we are It's about what they aren't Like you're like when I talked Well, it Of course it's it's that's not It can only work for so long. So it's like it's not about what we are What we are is that we're not them And that allows them to fundraise, that allows them to go out and scare people into voting voting for harm reduction, which is I'm not casidating anybody that votes for harm reduction. I'm saying sometimes a vote is for harm reduction, right? If Kamala Harris was president right now, I don't believe that we would be in Iran. I believe that Alex Preredy and Renneee Good would be alive. I believe that so many of our brown compadres around the country would be better. I believe things would be better for black people because some of the environmental catastrophes that we've seen the Trump administration take their hands off the wheel on, they would still be there. Some of the protections for I think things would be better, markedly better if Kamala Harris was president Despite any critiques that I have of foreign policy or even some of the domestic policy that the Biden administration had. The Biden administration was actually better on some of that stuff then they get credit for. I digress. I know people right now that their're student loans. are fucked up and going through the roof because all of that stuff was rolled back. So there is a cost. So voting for harm reduction isn't necessarily U terrible thing that everybody says it is, you would prefer to vote for the way that you want the country to be and not for the way that you want the country not to be, but it's not possible all the time, right? So I get that. I'm not, you know, making a whole set of observations about that. What I am saying though is that in this particular situation, Uh, the DSA is not a threat power They're not a threat to they're a threat to both the power and the identity of the Democratic Party This is about actual losing power. MagGa actually helps the power of the Democratic Party how bad they get gives people a binary to where they can come say, look at this terrible shit that's going on. We need more money, we need more seats. we need that. Th when they get in power, we get to hear about all the reasons they can't govern The DSA is something different The DSA is an existential threat. to the belief system The norms, the values. operation of power within the party. They seek to realign it They seek to distance themselves away from Israel. They seek to distance themselves away from corporate donors. They seek to distance themselves away. That is directly striking at the heart of the corporate Democrat in a way that not even MAGA does. So the fight is existential. The fight isn't political. The fight is They are trying to replace us. If you guys remember that slope That's what it is So they are fighting harder. than what they fought against Mga Because to be honest with you, like the MGa fight even though I'm not saying that they don't want to beat MAGa because a lot of the senator Democrats I know are very good people R? We might have different ways. I'm not saying that they don't want to beat Mag or they. The worse it gets, the better it is for them What the DSA is saying, whether or not you agree is that things don't have to be this way. is that there is a world where your healthcare Uh, your son or daughter going to war Um, your wages All of that stuff can come first People in New York They didn't vote on vibes They had S months with Mom Donny to see if he could govern at all. to see if there was anything to what he was saying and they decided that it was. The smart way to go about this would be to actually lean into the bullshit that you've been feeding people, which is that there is a big tent in the party and say, hey, let's section the tenin off Let's go to places where And the DSA would have to be involved in this too. Let's govern in places or let's run candidates in places like you said where people are into this they're amenable to this and in places where they're not Let's run people who can win there But let's also understand that there is And this is just real There's a growing trend. In America, looks at Israel? It looks at corporate donation. It looks at a fight for wage growth and health care as a litmus test to how serious you are as a politician. Well, it should be that way It really, really should be that way and that's what I don't understand. I feel like you and I are having a common sense conversation on how to how to build within the Democratic partarty, how to have a unified democratic message rather than feel like the introfighting and feel and thinking, how can I hold on to my power? Because I don't understand how it's not resonating to Democrats that Your constituents are looking at you And they're saying, you've been in office, how long and how long has my situation been like this What hope do I have that my situation is going to change And they're looking at somebody else who's saying, I see you And this is how I can make it better Because what I feel like gets missed a lot of times when people talk about democratic socialist is They're not trying to abolish a system. They're trying to figure out a way to work within the system to benefit people And I don't think that that gets talked enough about. So if you're fighting against people who are trying to work in a system so it can help people and the common good to make their lives better, what exactly are you really fighting against? It seems like you're fighting to keep the status quo and for things to remain the same, including for you to remain in your position rather than listening to me telling you exactly what it is that I need or how my life is not getting better. That is how the other side won. I understand very well point made about what MAGA does within the party versus what SA stands to do. But I just don't understand how you can continue to fight and think that you're going to maintain your position in power in places like New York or DC when we see what's happening when people are telling you exactly what they need and are just asking to be better. And I'm watching from the time you were in office It hasn't been that way So how are you not saying as a person, say this a lot You know, whether we're talking for what's happened in Texas. or in other places There has to be unity, there has to be a unified message. You have to have get on the same page. You have to be listening to people. and if you don't you will be pushed out, particularly in these deep blue states, these big cities where people are truly feeling it where costs are even higher than they are in other blue places. I just It's so simple to me. And I think you can maintain your power if you con see it a little bit. Now you might lose money to your point, you might not get the same donors that you are and maybe that's what's motivating you, but you will lose your place in power. You will continue to be unpopular as long as people keep feeling exactly the way that they are And here you have people saying, I'm trying to make it better for you. And you're and that is exactly what you're fighting against It's going to keep be it's going to keep getting worse for you. You are fighting against people wanting a better life in this country. It's really not simple to I've I've um I mean, that's well played I mean I want to I've already talked too much, but you're to me to see, I think that these battle lines are clearly drawwn But to see this much energy Yeah and to see them be on the same page like this Charged is mounting from the left of them inside of their own U There constituency or cohort and to see them get like this, they think that it's that it reflects well on them, but really it doesn't. Really it looks like Where has this been? because we've talked about soap I've already said itough I's just it's funny like I see like Jamie Harrison going crazy. No issue with Jamie Harrison, No issue with him, but I see him with a it feels different It feels different. It feels like this is who they actually think the enemy is not Mag. it feels like this is who they actually think the enemy is. and If the enemy is gettinget out of foreign wars. notot sending so much money to Israel If the enemy is wage growth for people If the enemy, if the enemy is free buses If the enemy is u Free child care, familyily leave and child. Free help the enemy. If that's the enemy I gotta wonder Wh the Allies are? I just I just it's a fair question. But isn't it glaring? That's what I'm saying. If they're the enemy, then who have you been this entire time? How are you not listening to when Trump or Republicans or anybody from the GOP starts criticizing what's happening in New York and saying, o, this is communism. Oh this how are you just not saying that's exactly not what it is. It's about making a a better life for people. Like how are you not Fighting again, I just This drives me crazy because it is so telling to who you truly are as a politician. And even if you aren't that, you're letting your power, you're letting your donors, you're letting whatever it be outweigh the needs of what the very people you're supposed to be fighting for are. And that's telling in itself now. I can't see that your heart is really about the people if the other things are outweighing it. And that is what it feels right now. So your messaging is now getting fucked up within the party because I'm looking at you like what are you protecting? Because it's not the people at this point And it makes the DSA's message more and more attractive as time goes on Rachel, are you socialist I like what the Democrat I like what I like what the Democratic socialists I don't think that's the same thing, but I like what the Democratic socialists stand for. How could you not I just Im asking you because like there's a lot of people out there that are hitting me up and they, you know, they they're like, yo Somebody called you Comrade Lindsey they reached out to me, they were like If I'm a Cat because I want people to be able to afford healthcare, like that's the thing is like people aren't looking at it. E if even some deemocratic socialists believe in free healthcare and some people believe you can have both and you can have private health carere. Like there's variations within it. If that makes me a if that makes me a comrade, then I'm a comrade. I'm sorry. I believe in people. I'm sorry I believe in people not struggling. Like, what do they keep saying? You can be rich. It just means that they don't have to be poor I believe in taxing the rich It's actually tough. I mean, the rich people control the means of production and all of that stuff. So like capitalism, capitalism is actually we're not get into this whole conversation. Capitalism is actually those people controlling the economy and then dictating what everybody else gets. When people say that they arere against capitalism, people think that they're against people going in stores and buying you rememember, which talked to us a little bit about this or people making money. people are against is money esssentially controllinging the economic and political structures of society, that these people hoarding wealth Um basically capitalizing off of your work keeping it for themselves and then paying you subsistence wages. That is the system that people are trying to break. And I will say this over and over and over again That system and its flaws are being increasingly illuminated in an American economic reality where people can see The shape of the econy whereere people can see it where it's like it's's there's's there's no way you can get around it. They can see that there is a trillionaire and their wages aren't. Exactly Exactly. And so and so like, you know, so like that kind of stuff is going to be trrickle down economics does not work It's not landing to you just because they're getting breaks. It's not coming down to you. They don't care because as they monopolize They just make things more expensive. Exactly, because it doesn't it's that simple. The fact they can into that. Itt get cheaper for you Okay, u Look, people going be so mad. They'd be so upset Um but no, that that's the whole thing.'s be subbset. This episode is brought to you by Nas Energy. Introducing new NAS Eergy Grand Prix Guava For those that want to be fueled up and fired up with one hundred bound hour tropical tasting power Iignnite your taste, start your ine A flavoreor to high gear with new Nas Energy Grand Prix Guava Hit the street, grab a can and get after it This episode is brought to you by Duluth Trading Company. 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These are Now, justice for Randy is right, theseese are the people And you guys should be watching the podcast if you haven't seen that video. These are the people that like that she should be arrested I'll be thats right First off the fact that she recorded it lets us know that she's subjecting Randy to this for a while. And like, what what Like Randy was literally being like, get out of my face, G away Oh this is this I'm I'm I'm disturbed I'm disturbed. Almost as much as I was in the last rant Have we wantan to put her on the podcast? For what? I'd rather have Randy. That's. Randy' the one who needs our help What are the comments saying? Did you do an autopsy? I mean, I looked at the comments and obviously That video was like It kind of it went viral. I'm looking at the comments and some people seem like they're going along with the joke. I was so appalled you have to be sure. Gfffrey. Sout to Godrey. Godfrey also He did a little talk. You know how you like you put the video in the shit and you talk about the video? Yeah. what are What did he say as Randy? He got a different video because she's done a different video where she was kind of China Randy was whatever she was doing with Randy and Godfrey was talking about it Once again, Oh why guy insside of me I thought about calling someone. I thought about like tagging the ASPCA. Sure. taging like a group to stop that. That's not right that can't be tolerated. I'm certain things I'm not tolerate. And that's one of them. I'm not tolerating that This is another example where that is okay. Can we name that guy within you? What's his name Yeah, I was thinking something short like an Ed Ted. Burnwax. Bert This is the time for it's okay for Bert to come out right now. This is a Burt moment Right Yeah, yeah. So go back now and give you another bird moment? No. I give you another bird Is it this? One more Bird on this level It's not this's a different it's a different moment. Okay This is a different moment So, you know, New York isn't my, um, New York isn't my spot. I come New York all the time but New York isn't my spot. This is their spot. you know, this is the New Yorker spot. New Yorkers' own New York And you know This summer So like I could see wearing one in the winter But if I'm walking around New York, in the summer And you got a shy stealer I. just feel I don't know You know, iss like I'm like pat them down. What' you got on you You know, like it's like it's I see some of the I see shyy''s Syies, peopleople wearing Syies in New York I've seen the shhyies. I've seen And so like, I don't want to be the type of, but it makes me a little like, what's going on? What' you doing Like why are you guys shasing you? Like why you got, why would you be wearing the sh Burt would ask in New York. Burt would ask. Burt would ask Or he walk on the other side of the street Bertt would walk on the other side of the street or Bertt would like Look at an officer and be like, You know, I'm like, this is But I don't think that's funny. Nobody laugh at this I don't think that like I think people getting patded down And Oh my God, are we here again? What's wr with me. What's wrong with me? Anany anythingthing o here? Anthing stick. You know why it's not funny to me? I guess because like it's like deeply rooted in racism. There's literally an amendment about that's like This is why it's not funny to me No I I know what you think is funny. We had a cat name Vagina I know you like that. You like. Okay if I think he's funny, you think that's how that's funn rooted you think'sly rooted in sexual assault. It is? You think that's funny? You think that's funny? You think takould you say that's funny It's not funny. it's the way His accent is funny. Um was funing. It was fun. Anyway, that I'm disturbed by that video. I don't like this segment. Reightady? So every once in a while now, I'm just gonna to pop up videos And videos that Rachel's never seen. She's going to react to them in real time Um I don't want to say the name of the lady from the Randy video. You'll be able to see it. Wh. out It's disgusting Why won't you say her name Just because like it feels I feel like it's beicging her up for what I believe is the abuse of an animal I'll think. Randy't Randy's eyes didn't look right next. Randy might be dead, by the way, because like when I looked at the video, it's like if you look at the caption, she says she misses Randy So maybe somebody got Randy out of there. Maybe we put Randy on the undernderground horse railroad. G freedom. I mean, she's braggking about it. She says, this's my most viral video yet Yeah it's it's It's beastuality, disgusting bullshit. I mean, look, she made it to higher learning. You know what it is though? It's what she says. L if he was just nudging her from behind like playfully and playing with her, like it looked like, But she's like, no, he's smelling my f like that. Like it's that's where it's it's otherwise I'll be like, o like her horse is just playing with her. He's he's looking for attention or something like that. But she's like specifically no, let me tell you guys. it's not, I don't know, it's not like mayaybe I'm a maybe I don't have sense of humor Sorry. it came off the other segment I'm ramped up. Do you so just let you guys know Dream on green. Oh shit Inmates have reportedly overpowered guards and taken control of a North Carolina jail, part of North Carolina jail This is Bernie Martin Regional Detention Center And Birdie County North Carolina inmates. Overpowered Three on duty guards supervising eighty eight inmates. With one guard escaping and two takaking hostagage, negotiations led to the safe release of the two hostages and multiple groups of inmates including approximately eighty inmates removed from the facility. The incident ended with all inmates and staff accounted for safety, no fatalities. And a facility cleared by SBI in the FBI. So it looks like it's over, but there was a little dust up there as people tried to assert their freedom after they were Taking control of there. Shot out all the abolitions out there shot Mark on my hill All right, u I don't know, there's really not too much podcasting left besides one story that I want to get your Your take on Actually Did you put this in the chat or did I? You definitely put this in Social Security administration announced that in twenty twenty five, the baby namee Donald hit his lowest point of popularity in U. S. history. The agency received fewer than four hundred social security card applications for baby Donalds last year, making Donald the nation's six hundred ninetieth most popular baby name. It peaked in popularity in thirty four when more than thirty thousand four hundred American babies received the name So that's a huge drop. in, uh Donald's popularity for babies Interesting thing is even in Florida Florida Only twenty one baby boys named Donald last year U and it's on par with the names Abner, Enoch, Stone and Eris and it's slightly behind Mohammed. cash Maximus Kanu and truce Mohamad slightly behind behind Mohammed Naming of done ' talking about What was what was was interesting to you, The fact that it's slightly behind a that Muhammad is ahead of it No, it's interesting to me that the name Donald. could get the eight offing Well The article does say it peaked almost a hundred years ago. So it's been on the decline. I don't think it I mean, do you have a lot of Donalds in your life? I don't know a lot of Donald. I I know Donald. It was Donaldll that went to McKinley. I know some Donald' Yeah, I like that big of a name period and now even more so sure. But like But what I'm saying is it will be interesting 'cause you don' Donald is like a There was The Aolf, you don't see Aolf a lot anymore. You don't see it And at one point, Adolph was kind of like a normal name. Was it really a normal name? Like it was a really popular name I mean, it was decently popular. Okay. Are you familiar with Rub Arena? Do you know what that is No Rep arena is where The Kentucky wildcats play or at least they used to play. I don't know if they still play at Rub arena, probably I'm sure they do He was a legendary coach for Kentucky, his first name Adol, Adolf R up Okay Adolf Caesar from the cololor Purple and . was that war movie with all black cast. Adolf Caesar, old black man actor. Oh black guy. Adolf Caesar. There was some Aols around. And then Yeah itays before Hler came around and it was like no more Adolph. Yeah. All right. Yeah. What'd you say? Before World War two, it was P pop my name And German speaking in Scandinavian countries prettyty popular name. Now can't really get away with the whole Adolf situation You know Now let me see, hold on for a second. I don't think that Hitler's name. So Hitler's name and R's name are spelled different Adolf Hitler is A D O L F. Adolf Rub is A D O L P H I think young Dolphf might have even been named Aolph. I don't And dont do think so. hold on A two I think recipe' the dof, man Always get the money. pe Yeah, his name was Adolph. Adolph S was his name was Adolph with the D O L P H Young dolph Um, but even that name now is not The sound of the name, whatever it's not. people don't use it as much And so maybe Donald could be following down the same track D, who wants to be called Donald? Donald is Trump Donny, do you don't feel anyay? Do you feel any way just 'cause like there's a closeness Yeah, I always have though, because growing up, I've always been jokingly called Donald's or people would assume that Donnie is short for Donald. So the name Donald always irkss me because the beginning of it sounds like my name. so it piqus my attention and then it's not. And then there's just so many people in my life who have purposely annoyed me by calling me out of my name Is that why you did not want to is that why you did not want to do a third U, well, no, that's not why. I don't know. It was because I didn't want the confusion in the household. someomebody saying Donny And it was like, which one are you talking to? The little one or the big one? That kind of happened a little bit in I That's trauma, don't pass it alone. My dad went by Terry So whenever somebody was saying, Van Like it was me. So he went by Terry. Donny, what what's your real name then Is Donnie Donny Dnie Dnie Glen Beachs Junr. Is this are we all family Can I say something Yeah Yeah, goo ahead I don't like that sho You don't like that it's Donnie and not Donald. I don't like people whose proper name is a nickname. Oh we've kind of establish this I feel like this happened very early. likeike my first time on the podcast, you said something about it being weird If I were to grow up And it's like, I can' you can't imagine, I think you said something. I can't imagine a sixty year old Donny. And I was like, well There is one. My dad at the time was like sixty three. I then He heard this And he had some fun with you since No I a damn ban. I don't know. You don't like you. I'm mad that this is the first time we're hearing about this because that's hilarious. We never heard about this It is, it is, but like even even my dad My dad has an incomplete name What's your dad's name? Sam But no sometimes a lot of times people try to say Samuel I mean, maybe, maybe Samuel is a thing. Sam is kind of different, I would think. But like what if his name was Samy What if your dad's name was Sammy Lindsey Like Sammy is a cute Sam is the short. Sammy is like a cute variation of Samuel, Sammy, or Sam. Hey Sammy Hey, you know what I mean?, Hey Sammy, Hey Sammy, what's going on Like my name was Vanny. Is that how you My name was actually Is that how you feel about Donnie? Because Donnie, I know prefer Donnie. He's l it's literally the same thing. Donnie, I prefer Donnie way more than Donald. way more than Dond. Yeah. I prefer Donnie way more than I know a lot of Donnie', right? I've know Donny's. The Donnie that with the IE is an interesting choice, but I know a lot of Donnies, right I've no Donny Lonn's Donny Hathaway is Donnie. He is Y, his name is Donnie Edward Hathaway. that born in nineteen forty five, that there is some precedent. Yep to that Donny Hathaway has his real name is not Donal Dnonn Hathway. Donnie Edward How does Donnyathway spell his name? He's got the Y So This is d Okay you the name This is Burt. This is Burt. This is some don't know if this is Burt. This is some Bur. The fact that you were policing names and names spelling. policing names. The audacity saying I'm saying I'm saying that like there is a thing. You know what? People police names all the time. peopleeople saying I was, you know People name their kids Apple or something like that. people go to. I don't even do that. I'm just saying that like it is interesting when people have a nickname as their regular name. when they have a nickname as a name that they go by Right? Like If you met somebody and their real name was Babs 's say real name. Babsmart Babs is what you called Barbar ike you know what I'm say? W somebody like You name somebody Joey Joey is sh. There are a lot of joees Joey? I know Joey hold on. mayaybe not Joey. Joey's a bad example, but like somebody that has a playful nickname as their regular name. Like my dad, my dad would go by Terry E one time. Yeah, Terry Recipes of thatad Remember one time, man. I was watching this movie called Mom and Dad Save the World And in that movie, It stars John Lovittz, another guy that got in trouble for like child porn not John Lvesbood The other guy dud It sas a woman named Terri Gar And my dad's like, this movie' crazy Like what you watching? I was like Watching a movie with Terry Garr John Love,'s mom and dad saved the world. It's like her name is Terry This Terry is a girl's name And that's your name Hm C, never forget this He didn't even trip He was like, Oh You think I'm a woman I'm like No I do not think I'm not saying that at all. You say she did You just call me a bitch And he goes, hereere's the thing about a bitch, son When you see a bitch, you gotta kick his ass. Boy I was sitting there. How are you? And I was like, this is it Maybe like twelve or thirteen is whatever, whenever that movie came out, I was sitting there It was on cable. I was thinking this is it This Nigg is about to kill me He just threatened me to a fight It's over He's like, you see a bitch. k his ass. So at any time You think your daddy's a bitch G. I'll give you the first three And then he got up, he put his h on and he left and I sat there in fear. He had to like it never happened. He came back later on, all jolly and shit. This is what this Nigga used to do. This Niggy used to put the fear of God into you and then come back and have a big hamburger. Come over here and eat some something with your daddy and I'm like You're not gonna kill me, are you? It's like no No, you bite the burger, see if the burger iss poisoned or whatever But like he he I just you just never know with him. You never knew. This niggle was crazy. you never knew anyway. So I made fun of his name and then They did that. But Donny,'ll see your dad something out like how could I make this right? You can send him some barbecue after you send Joe's dad some barbecue. My dad got nexts Your dad got n. Joe's dad gets the barbecue first and then your dad I'm gonna send Joe's dad the barbecue, I think this week And then I'll get to your dad after that. All right. mrter Beacham, I apologize. Yeah he card. putut some respect on his name Yeah That's funny. So' been be hold of that what is. I mean Yeah, Dy your dad hasn't fucked with me since I' was craz. That b man I don't know about. mr. Beach, I apologize. because it came up semi recently likeike within the past three months. I was like, Dang, he didn't forget about that shit Before we leave, put a picture on Re quick To minutes, P put a picture on the screen real quick. I don't know who these guys are So I'm not even gonna pretend likeike, uh I know who these guys are U But you. I mean we that This says Born Ry Donald J. Trump Born to ride Donald J. Trump My God My God born to ride. Donald Dav. So when you zoom in, I will not to give them some slack. 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Yeah, fant.orn for it. Have you ever thought that maybe That's exactly what these people want to do. You're anti the dick writing, but these people might this is might be what they want to do Well If that is the case I think that it's pretty appropriate for me to call it out Because you shouldn't want that. It's a lot of things that people want that they shouldn't want it. You should not want to ride a Nigg' dick. And if you are rideing a Niggas's dig, there should be shame involved You should dick ride and go home and splash water on your face and look at the miracle, what am I doing Is this really what I set out to do Like, what is going on in my life? People said, you know, you splash your water, your wife comes in. She goes, What's going on with you, honey? And you just look in the mirror, and you go Nothing And the reason why you go nothing is because you're answering her question, but both you're looking in the mirror and you're also seeing that you're nothing Because if you are a dick rider, you are nothing. If you are a dick rider, what you are doing is making somebody else's life accomplishments and goals more important than what you think Dick wriding is the worst possible thing that one can do otherther than like, you know, injure people and abuse people and stuff like that, but it leads to all of that. also leads to people excusing that I Vote and rebuke Dick Riders in all forms and fashions do not see why anyone proud of. and these guys said that they were born for it. They were born to be on the next man's deick is going on. I'm not breaking through I'm not breaking through. Nothing that I said matters Nothing that I've said matters. And this is really how to whole GOP. There's a lot of people out there that born to Dick Ride, but they don't know. They didn't realize that it you Okay Oh is there. Okay Brazil anymore. I'm very that depressed me, man I born a dick ride, borne a ride out of. I find these things Do people send them to you? They have to. They have to send these things. Doid people say, Hey Van Lathan, they put the c your dick Ridin. Like I's like just Dick R is at an all time high is there's no way to stop it. The internet facilitates two things. Dick Rid and Hayen which is both the same thing. Kayton and Dick Roden. That's it. Like you try to have conversation with somebody and they say something that's so dick roty You don't even know how to continue the conversation orr they just like blindly hating I really wake up every day, like let objectivity live in my brain. Brazil one, they just scored. I think they scored an extra time And so what I'm looking forward to now is the Brazilian side being able to really survive sppirited charge from Japan. continue to move on with their different set pieces and the way that they corner kick And the way they kick the ball all around, they kick it Cose they kick it from deep the goalkeeping they they they manage they they can stay on side when they do their things, they can You know, shuffle around and really be lively They're a lively team The historic team They're world power and we'll see if they can continue to move on here in the World Cup in what's known as the knockout stages. the kn R thir two. What great commentary Great analysis It would say It takes nothing to support. Yeah I mean, you were it was right above They are kicking a ball. It is black and white. It's there on a green field. There are two goals One team is has to win, one team has to lose. Everything you just say is true. We gota go. You know, there's a lot of people I'm talking about people O the next podcast that u were really very, very mean to me over the whole AP rocky thing. Yeaher very upsetting. This is unnecessary who is like a lot of people We mean? You want to look like ASAP, you want to look like ASAP I what I'm saying is U is a lot of people talk about How ugly I am or how I am not attractive. And I'll say this, I'll say this You know, I'm going to talk deeply about this Th. Actually you know what I might, that's a teaser Thursday I'm have a conversation because I notice one thing in common about everyone who called me ugly.