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Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you Dear Listeners of Holly Land. Does it feel like you're stuck in limbo standing under a flickering streetlight at the corner of Hollywood in True Crime Waiting for the next episode of Hollywood Land to drop I got you. Welcome to Hollywood Mand What's going on, my fellow movie geeks, you true crime freaks, just like me, You guys like your movie history served up with a side of grit and grime. This of course, is the place where we rescue those stories from the cutting room floor, the stories that were left behind, the very same stories that have now made you the most dangerous person the party I'm your host, Seth Lundy, wrriter, showrunner and good Doctor here at Double Elvis. and today in the Hollywoodand Rp partarty We're talking about defrauding Netflix. We're talking about the prison sentencing of a promising Hollywood director. We're talking about Bob Crane, Wendy O Williams and stories that shock you. Plus, I've got recommendations from yours truly and Double Elvis' head of production, Matt Bodden coming up later, plus your calls, your texts, your emails, so come on everybody Let's party On Monday of this week, Monday, june twenty ninth The American filmmaker Carl Rynch walked into a federal courthouse in New York where he was sentenced to thirty months in prison after being convicted of defrauding Netflix. outut of eleven million dollars. Now You may be asking yourself before the how of it all Who is Carl Rynch which is a great question. It's one that I asked myself when I first encountered this story back when Rinch was charged with this crime Carl Rynch is a filmmaker who came up through commercials kind of like David Fincher, specifically through a post college gig. He had at Ridley Scott Associates. Hees, that Ridy Scott where he shot a commercial for Lexus, he gained some notoriety and he was eventually handpicked by Ridley Scott himself direct a prequel to Alien, the film that became Prometheus Although despite Ridley Scott championing Carl Rrench for this role The studio found that Rinch was untested and they vetoed the idea altogether Ridley Scott of course ended up directing Prometheus, but that's another story. So eventually With all the support from people like Ridley Scott and all this ambition, you know, Carl Rynch eventually settled on a directorial debut for himself. And it's a film called Fty seven Ronin which is a sci fi action epic that was described as a cross between Lord of the Rings and Gladiator and in addition to a mostly all Japanese cast starred Keano Reeves Rinch got a huge budget to make this film, one hundred seventy five million dollars. But as often it happens with first time directors or even with second time directors, just, you know, ask Oson Wells. Rinch wrestled with the studio, which is universal Once production had wrapped Universal took the movie away from him and the suits there at the studio wound up editing the film, completing the film It required reshoots, which were done without wrench, I believe, required more money an additional fifty million dollars, which ballooned the budget up to two hundred twenty five million And the release of the movie was delayed by more than a year Now when forty seven Ronan finally saw the light of dayay in December of twenty thirteen It was a critical bomb U Huge critical bomb Commercially in the US, it was a bomb as well. It earned only thirty eight million dollars stateside Internationally, it did fare better. It earned over one hundred thirteen million, I believe, but it still failed overall to break even on its huge budget So Rinch goes back to the drawing board, right? This time. pivots TV, which is beginning to have another renaaissance with the success of House of Cards on Netflix and like the re prestiging of TV shows for streaming networks Rych and his wife developed another sci fi concept, this one called Conquest. I believe Originally it was titled White Horse But they changed the name to conquest, both titles are referred to in different articles about this case and it gets little confusing, but I'm going to refer to it as conquest And the bottom line is Netflix was stoked on conquest. They were stoked about this show And so around twenty eighteen or so, they jump on board to make this thing and production of Carl Rynch's comeback series begins in earnest Now the world of Conquest, AKA white horse is a world in which artificially created Qote unquote, organic intelligence beings exist. these beings which resemble humans, but which aren't human. Kind of a blade rununner replicant situation, I guess And when humanity figures this out, when it's discovered that these things aren't actually human, The so called organic intelligence creatures create their own cities create their own society and they separate themselves from the rest of the world. That's the premise of the show No. It's reported that Netflix was blown away by the early footage that Ryinch and his team 're creating. And you know, Rinch had some skin in this game as well. He had used his own dough to produce some of this stuff at the beginning, which is a big reason Netflix was so keen to get involved because they saw this early footage that Rych had been working on and they were like, holy shit This is incredible. One Netflix executive even said that The visuals were something he'd never seen before. Like this was like almost like unprecedented territory, which is exciting And it was, you know, something different, something groundbreaking. And then, you know, of course, you think of the scope You think of other huge pieces of sci fi IP like Star Wars or the aforementioned alien And no doubt Netflix is thinking the long game here. you know, if this thing kicks ass like they think it's going to and it does well, then it's something they can continue to cultivate and make money off of well into the future. This is where things start to get a little dodgy. Allegedly It said that Carl Rynch was behaving oddly on the set of the show. that he was using abusing prescription drugs that his wife had even encouraged him to seek rehab at some point Now at this point Netflix has given Rinch forty four million dollars to make this show But he goes to them. he says He needs more money to complete it. He's almost there So in twenty twenty, he gets another eleven million from Netflix. But his behavior continues to get more and more erratic Allegedly, he was emailing and texting Netflix executives stuff about like how he had discovered COVID nineteen's secret transmission mechanism. Those are the words He also apparently confided to his wife at this time that he had the ability to predict earthquakes and lightning strikes. So as you can imagine Netflix is starting to get cold feet on this thing. seemeems like there's some weird signs here, some weird signposts on this this road And so in twenty twenty one, despite how psyched they are with the show. and the concept Netflix pulls the plug on the whole thing. Pull the plug. And Carl Rynch is still sitting on this extra eleven million dollars that they had just given them And as the indictment Alleges He then proceeded to divert that eleven million dollars. to his personal bank account and then proceeded to use that money to invest in pharmaceutical companies Bye. Cryptocurrencies to pay off one point seven million dollars personersal credit card debt one point seven million dollars in personal credit card debt And also to buy luxurious personal items. He bought five Blls Royces Ferrari. as if the five roles weren't enough, right? A Ferrari He bought over six hundred fifty thousand dollars in watches and clothes other household goods, including Two mattresses. on which he spent six hundred thirty eight thousand dollars. Cybar here Where's the mattress store where you're buying a mattress for over three hundred thousand dollars? like Apparently I missed the memo. You know, it's like the high thread count sheets when you're like, I don't know. Th sheets are pretty expensive. Well, they have a high thread count and so they're more comfortable or whatever. At what point Do you go, you know, this mattress, I think, is probably comfortable enough. Like I think I'm, I think I'm getting to This is the best mattress I've ever had like way before three hundred thousand dollars. but I'm a simple dude, a simple dude. I grew up with simple just basic needs met and I don't know, man, mayaybe I'm just out of touch with the timimes Anyways This past Monday, inside a New York courtroom before he was sentenced. Carl Rynch explained that he did what he did due to mental health issues and to struggles with his medication, which he was working on getting adjusted He said, quote, This process has forced me to confront things about my health, my judgment and my life I failed to recognize the danger of the state I was in unquote On the other hand, prosecutors said that Rynch had every possible advantage, as they put it. He had family money, he had this great education, you know at Columbia. He had famous friends in Hollywood He had this multi million dollar deal with Netflix to make the show So the prosecutor said, just And the motive here Carl Rch to do what he did was pure, was just greed. Naked greed was the way they put it One of the famous friends here that prosecutors are referring to is Keana Reeves, who was the star of Rinch's debut film forty seven Ronan Kiana Reeves actually wrote a letter to the court ahead of sentencing in which he asked for the judge's leniency and mercy And while the U. S. district judge admitted that Rinch's mental health issues may explain some of the excesses, as he put it didn't, quote detract from the court's conclusion that he was determined to lie to get substantial monies from Netflix and lie to cover it up, unquote So Rinch gets thirty months in the clink, two and a half years for a crime that is hard to find precedent for. I was thinking this morning about the history of Hollywood and of other cases in which the director of a major undertaking, film or TV defrauded the studio. this and it's hard to find. The first the first thing I thought of different but similar. Was John Houston one of the great mavericks of the twentieth century and the story of how when he was making the misfits with Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable that John Houston took the studio's money and he went and he gambled He put it all on the table and gambled it on poker in this casino, while production was halted while Maryilyn was was was recovering at a hospital, but that's a whole other story. There we've got a whole episode on that by the way, on the misfits on that that making of that movie. and we talk about we get into John Houston gambling away the film's budget. So that's the that's that's the one sort of comp here that I thought of. There's also the case of Elis Simaha a nightclub owner turned movie producer who, in the year two thousand was accused of fraudulently inflating the budgets of his films, including Battlefield Earth that sci fi bomb starring John Chravolta withith the dreads This case was brought to the court on behalf of a German company called Entertainment AG, which won the case And Samaha was declared by the court. personally liable. For seventy seven million dollars in damages When it comes to Carl Rynch though, I have I have no words. the balls on this guy, eleven million dollars now Jesus, I don't think Netflix is missing that money. You know, the fifth and final season of Stranger Things reportedly cost upwards of four hundred to four hundred eighty million dollars to make. That's close to half a billion dollars, but damn All seriousness though, it sounds like there are some underlying mental health issues here at play. so I don't mean to make light of that. I just can't believe acity of the thing. It's just it's shocking. evenven in this day and age When we are well past the nothings shocking era when we're seemingly incapable of being shocked by anything This to me is Cital S shocking Maybe a car. Maybe a mattress, maybe a couple thousand in credit card debt, but five cars one point seven million dollars in debt six hundred grand beds So Shocking guys. Shock is the name of the game right now this week here in Hollywoodand. Also over in our sister S show, Disgracland, first of all Here in Hollywoodand, we just dropped our fully scripted and Sound Design episode on Bob Crane back on Monday. Bob Crane, star of Hogan's Heroes one time most popular DJ on the Los Angeles radio waves Seemed like an upstanding citizen, familyam man realal Ozuszie and Harriet shit, you know, but As we know, as you know, if you've listened to our episode Bob Crane was harboring some deep dark secrets behind closed doors secrets that involved sexual exploits, videotape and which ultimately led to his shocking murder Meanwhile Over in Disgraceeland We just released a brand new episode all about Wendy O. Williams. One time leader of the plasmatics, one of the most shocking shock rockers of all time. I'm talking about blowown up Cadillacs on stage. Can you imagine? G into a show at like the palladium, notot the palladium What am I thinking of? U Not CBGB's in New York, but the club that they that they graduated to after. Maybe it was the Pladium Now, the playiames in Wcester, anyways, don't know what I'm talking about. I'm fucking out of my gd right now, but Not on drugs, I promise, it's not drugs Uh It's just a lot of caffeine and lack of sleep. But Can you imagine going to a show at a small club and seeing a Cadillac on stage and being like, I wonder what they're going to do with that. And then like halfway into the show They fucking ignite exxplosives and they fucking blow it up and the hood of the car flies into the air and nearly kills the lead singer there on stage, like lands right next to her. like could it killed somebody in the crowd? I mean, holy shit, dude It's shocking stuff. Winia Williams just truly one of one She did all these things. she blew up cadillacs, she cut guitars in half with a chainsaws, She sledgehmmered TV's All this live on stage while wearing outfits that were meant to provoke and again meant to shock And like I just said, her story is unlike any other music history. We've been waiting to tell this story for years. So make sure you bounce over to that feed and check that out. Okaykay. Back to Bob Crane for one second real quick here. and then I'm going to let it go. This Friday here in the screening room. I'm going to take a deep dive Into the nineteen eighty nine film Sex lies and Videotape, the directorial debut by Steven Soderberg This seemed to be a natural choice for our movie this week because Bob Crane's story involves sex, it involves lies and involves videootape. I could have covered autofocus the movie about Bob Crane starring Greg Kaner But that's directed by Paul Schrader, and I just did a Paul Schrader film Blue Coar a few weeks ago So I wanted to mix it up. So it's sex lies and video tape this week This was a major watershed moment for American Independent Cinema, as you guys know, and as we'll talk about more on Friday Come back here with me on Friday and check that out. all right? Next week, Chrystal Ball here, next week in the pod We've got our episode on James Dean One of the most iconic actors of classic the classic Hollywood era who died at the age of twenty four in a car crash having only made three films, two of which We're not even released until after his death But one of the wilddest things about James Dean's death is how much people believed or how much they wanted to believe. that he was actually still alive, that Either it was all a publicity stunt or that his ghost was easily summoned And you know, people, fans paid good money to believe this lie to live this lie. and some didn't even have to pay good money someomewhere one hundred percent true believers in like haunted cars and this haunted afterlife that that this This matinee idol was was continuing to live out. This is one of my favorite Hollywood land episodes. If you guys have not heard this one before You're in for a treat. There's so much stuff in here I was unaware of. All this freaky shit that happened at that time in the fifties immmediately after he died. It's really wild and I feel like a lot of it's been lost history. It's been lost to the prevailing narrative that's gone on about James Dean. Tune into this and check it out. And while you do while you're listening I want you to be thinking about next week's question of the week, okay, whichich is what character for moovie History is your favorite rebel. Is it James Dean as Jim Stark in Rebel withithout a cause Or is it Jack Nicholson, as Randall McMurphy in one flew over the Cuckoo's nest Maybe it's Tard Durden from Fight Club. I don't know. Either of them. Wh you got six one seven nine hundred six Six, six, three, eight Lave me a voicemail, send me a text Speaking of Tower Durdan Did you guys see that Tler Durdon was hanging out with himself at the World Cup in LA the other day Did you guys sketatch that? Edward Norton and Brad Pitt were in this like Skybox at the World Cup game. Edward Norton had this dope radio headshirt on and All the memes were like, you know, Kard Durdan talking scen talking to himself at the at the World Cup. which is hilarious. And then there was like this old footage that people found of both Edward Norton and Brad Pitton separate occasions spepeaking on how radiohead is their favorite band of all time. and you've got Edward Norton wearing the radioad shirt. just it was great shit. All right guys, listen, coming up later in the show here. I'm going to visit from our head of production here at Double Elvis, Matt Bodden He's subbing for Jake Brennan this week. Jake has been on vacation. He's getting back later tonight, I believe, or first thing in the morning. So Matt's going to jump in the booth with me for the recommendations section. and listen guys It's a holiday week, the lead up to a holiday weekend. We've been grinding over here at both shows above and beyond not even just creating the stuff you're hearing, but we're doing a lot of stuff in the background, a lot of new things we're working and testing out. And we're about to lose our damn minds here. So instead of putting too much creative or intellectual fencing around this one this week, We're just going to have a loosey goosey just me and Matt hanging out like old times talking about some shit we've seen recently or heard or read And we're going to let y'all know, okay But before we do that, of course, I got to hear from all of you. I've got your texts, your emails, your voicemails, your DM's, your carrier pigeon letters they're rolled up and crumpled up by those pigeon talons. and I'm gonna to get into it all right after this The Second World War was the largest event in human history twenty part documentary series with Tom Higs. No part of the globe was untouched Unchanged. experience the ultimate account of World War II. Every single person had a story These are the stories that make us who we are. With Tom Hanks, new episode Monday at eight, part of History Honors two hundred fifty only on the history channel. When it comes to looking your best, Beach Bum Tanning does it better. Beachbum delivers advanced sun and spray tanning, luxury skincare, and an elevated salon experience designed around you. It's why so many guests trust Beachbum for flawless color and real confidence. And now Beachbum is expanding wellness services to many locations. with red light therapy and infrared sauna, with more on the way. recharge your body, refresh your skin, reset your day. Beachbum isn't just tanning, It's full spectrum wellness. Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you What's up guys? eth Lundy hanging with you here in the rap party six one seven nine zero six six six threety eight. That's how you get in touch just like my guy Matt in the three hundred one seven. who sent in this text. Doctor, I'm getting used to my new phone. Here are some tidbits over the last few episodes Thank you for spreading the love for Blue Car. I was born and raised in Flint, Michigan, and remember the news coverage about the making of the film. Yes, Sean Pam was basically playing William Holden in Licorice Pizza. In nineteen seventy three, Holden starred in a May December romantic comedy called Breezy his younger co star was Kay Lens and it was directed by Eastward A musician with an eye patch Mike Morgan of the Texas Blues Band, Mike Morgan and the Crawl A woefully unseen remake is the twenty thirteen samurai remake of Unforgiven starring Ken Wananabi Even though it was a Warner Brothers release, I don't think it got an American release Yes, I own the soundtrack to the hotspot. I'll be playing it on a future Blues house party. Thanks for the inspiration. takeake care Matt from the three one seven. Matt, dude, appreciate you as always. comoming in hot today with with a lot of takes from a lot of different subjects we've covered over a lot of weeks here. So if you're just tuning in for the first time, you're like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? Where we're talking about Blue collar, the Paul S Trader film. We're talking about Licors pizza Paul Thomas Anderson film,' talking Musicians with eye patches because, because, because because U. True grit, whoo was wearing an eye patch? My own breadcrumb trail is lost to me now. We're talking about musicians and eye patches Mike Morgan and the crawl. I don't know this band, Matt. And then you know what I really don't know about in this message here is I did not know there was a samurai remake of Unforgiven, one of my favorite movies of all time. Certainly one of the greatest Westerns ever made did not know this even existed, so I'm going to go hunt this down appppreciate it Matt. Thank you for the text as always Weve got another text here and again six, one, seven, nine zero six, six, six three, eight. You can text, you can even call. Don't worry. no one's going to actually answer the phone and then you're going have to talk to a human being, which I mean, if you want to, There's nothing wrong with that. you know, those days of of calling people on the phones though seems to be, you know, it seems to be a bygone era I don't do a lot of phone talkking these days Not that I don't enjoy it. but again, my point is you want to leave a voicemail You can do so knowing that you're not going like be put on the spot and have to talk to an operator or anything. There are no operators standing by. There's just our voicemail box, which is awaiting your next message. okay? six one seven, nine hundredz six, six six threety eight, text here from the two hundred one four, which reads Hey, Zeth and Jake Santiago here. I'm curious to see if y'all have watched Obsession yet If so, I would love to hear y'all's thoughts. I love this movie and the story of the director, Curry Barker. and how he started with a comedy sketch group making videos on YouTube. to directing a couple of great short horror films, The Chair and Warnings. to a found footage horror film, Milk and cereal We're also great He uploaded those to YouTube and they blew up, and he went on to make this amazing movie for a budget of a little less than a million dollars And he has now gross close to one hundred million worldwide. He already has finished filming his second movie picked up by Bloomhouse. I just became an instant fan of his from this movie and I amm excited to see what he will bring us in the future. Hope to hear your thoughts on the pod and keep kicking ass double Elvis team Santiago, thank you. Thankk you so much. We will keep kicking ass here, man. I believe. Obsession has grossed Closer to three hundred million worldwide or even over that. I think your number might be a little low. And yes, Santiago. I don't know. I can't speak for Jake. I don't think he's seen it but I did mention this, I think I mentioned it the other weekend in some episode somewhere I did finally see obsession I loved it. I thought it was capital G great I don't know that I've ever experienced a movie with a tone like that. I've been talking a lot about the tone of this movie. Curry Barker, as you mentioned, coming from comedy and I'm making a horror film. You know, there are many moments in this movie where you're like Should I be laughing? Should I be pissing my pants right now? And sometimes you start doing one and then you do the other, vice versa And it's just u Other people have referred to it as just an extremely uncomfortable watch, which it's very uncomfortable as well in that way. And it's just cool to see younger filmmakers striking out and making something Making something that's obviously indebted to Not only movies from the past metethodologies of making movies from the past it very much has through line back to like American independent cinema from the eighties and the nineties But it feels fresh And the idea feels fresh and this idea of someone making a wish that someone else would love them and how that turns into this like ultimate nightmare is the way it's executed is completely surprising and you never know what's going to happen. And I thought it was great. I loved it. And just like you, I look forward to whatever Curry Barker is going to do next. I know that they I think they've given them keys to the a Texas Chainsaw massacre franchise as well, which It's fine. I wish these guys would just make, you know original movies, but whatever. Santiago, appreciate you. Thankk you for listening. Thank you for texting in. six one seven nine hundred six six six three eight gotot a text here from the seven hundred six. Hey, I just listened to the podcast about a starars born and loved, loved, loved the playlist And I'm going to add a song by Lou Reed called Underneath the Bottle. I believe it's on the Blue Mask album and is brilliant as is most Lou Reed seven hundred six, thank you for that. seven o six is referring to our screen room epode from last week about a starars born. As you guys know, when I do these episodes, I make these hypothetical theoretical, metaphorical, potentially possible mixtapes. inspired by the movie. So this Llue reed song underneath the bottle is going to be added to our mixtape for that. I don't know the blue mask seven hundred six. I'm sorry. Blue reed I love Lou Reid. I don't know. this is sort of a blind spot for me a little bit. I know some of his stuff. I know like transransformer, that record. and of course, I know the velvet underground stuff And then, um I know some of the later stuff really well. like for some reason, it set the Twilight reeling I bought that album in college And that's always kind of stuck with me. There's another one from around that era too that I was really into as well. But there's this whole stretch of blue from the seventies into the eighties that I just don't know of rectify that at some point. So I appreciate you jogging that need loose in my mind here seven hundred six Speaking of song choices for our mixtapes We got a voicemail here from Shane in the nine seven zer. Matt, can you fire this up Hey man, onene piece at a time, Johnny Cash I don't. didn't know the song until you just mentioned it Great, great choice for a song for bllue collar. You're right. It's like one of those ones that's just like staring you right in the face if you know it And I'm ashamed to say that I wasn't aware of the song, but now I am and I appreciate that. For the same episode Blue Coar, over in our Patreon that's disgracly in all access over on Patreon in the in the chat there. Jackie She shouted out industrial disease by dire Straits as well as a town called Malice by the jam Jam another band that I need to I need to dive into more. I know I know sound effects and I know one of the other records, but I need to I need I need more I need more more J in my life. All right, we got an email here from Ali. And the subject is top five best cover songs. We did a what did we do? We did a rap party recommendations about the greatest some of the greatest cover songs and cover movies the other week. So Aly's email says, Heyh No one mentioned these three amazing made at their own covers, so I had to write in and give them their props One bizarre love triangle by Fnte, two, I will survive by cake. three. onlynly love can break your heart by Sing ATN. F feeling good by Muse. five, baby one more time by Travis Frnte did what every female YouTube vocalist is doing nowadays, but they did that thirty plus years ago. and I believe their interpretation of New orrder remains unmatched Alli from London, formerly of the four one five This is a great Great email Great email. I agree with you about Fnte I I was was in on the ground floor of this whole thing. When it came out. a friend of mine freshman year of college when this first had just come out. be of I think there was an EP that Frante put out. Maybe it was the single It was It was like a CD single, maybe I forgget EP or single, but it had this cover, a bizarre love triangle on it At the time, my knowledge of New Oder was I just did not really register much with them. This is, you know, I was seventeen at the time So I believe I heard Bizar Love Triangle first as Fnte before I heard it as New order. Ditto, believe it or not, for St. ATN and only love can break your heart. I only heard the kneil young version after I heard this because again One of my roommates in college was a big say ATN fan and he had this And you used to play it all the time These are great, great choices here. Baby one more time. Richard Thompson did an incredible cover of that one time years ago. I haven't heard the Travis one, but now I want to. Ali, appreciate your message. Thank you so much for listening and for getting in touch. Another email here from Jonathan The subject line here from Jonathan is someome feedback slash a humble request and it reads Double ells team. Hey, it's your old pal Jonathan in the six onez. I'm a disco fan for a few years and a patreon member since the beginning I'm digging the rap party and all the extra after content, but I had a request for you guys I'm usually in my car at work or working on a project when listening to Disgraceland. And I love hearing the hot takes between Jake and Zeth. However There are times when you talk about recommendations and Zeth will say, Oh, this movie was amazing, or I can't believe you haven't heard their cover of Bank s on And you'll go back and forth and that I'll take you somewhere else likeike the Heist films and cover songs. Here's my ask In the show notes, can you please put links to these things? so I don't have to stop Pause, go back, write it down This is a podcast for the trrue Cime, Geeks and Freaks But can someone make it a little easier to follow the trail and dig the wrecks Thank you, thank you and keep up the great work. Rockcaarolla, your ro oldle Pal Jonathan in the six onez Jonathan I hear you. I totally hear you. I'm wondering And'm not I'm totally not being a dick. just I'm wondering if we have the technology I mean, I know we have the technology to do this. and the technology is someone typing in the show notes, right? But I just mean, likere we're a very, very, very small but mighty team here at Double Elvis And there's very few of us getting a lot of things done. and I want to look at this and see if there's a way in which we can easily make this happen U I know that Matt puts A lot of times in like Disgrrace Land episodes, after Party, Jake will, he'll mention older episodes from the arrchive of Disgrace Land and Matt will put links there. And I know that there's this whole thing now with moments that you can tag in the episode where people can go back and listen to certain sections. So let me send this up to the chain of command here at at the the home base and I'll see I'll see what we can do because I want to I hear you and and I want you to be able to follow the recx trail here. We do If you follow us on Instagram as well, Jonathan, we have been posting regularly in the grid We've been posting our recommendations that come up in the rap party. When Jake and I are talking about recommendations, music and movies, we've been posting Carousel post of that in the grid. week on Instagram. And then in our stories on Instagram, weekly, we've been posting the songs from the mix tape in the screen room episodes. So we have been sort of dreadcumbing that trail there in Instagram. If that's helpful, maybe it's not. Feedback has been heard and we will get back to you on that when we can thank you Jonathan All right guys, listen I got toa take a quick break here. But when I come back I'm going to have my guy Matt Bodden. head of production here at Double Elvis, and we are going to give you guys Some crazy recommendations for some. what are we going to be talking about? I don't know. I have no clue. I'm going into this blind. Matts going me leading the way And I'm just along for the ride and I can't wait to talk about what he wants to talk about. And I'm sure you guys are all gonna love it too. So do not go anywhere. 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Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you All right guys, welcome back into the rap party. We're here in the recommendation section. Usually sitting with me in the co host chair is Jake Brennan, but Jake's not here, man Jake's Jake's far far away on vacation. So I have the privilege today to have my guy, Matt Bodden head of production here at Double Elvis, join me What's going on, Dude? Not much, man. exxcited to talk to you today Yeah, it's been a minute since you and I have done this sort of thing like on mic on camera. Usually I have some sort of a theme that's built around you know, the scripted episode in the screening room and all that stuff, but I just wanted to keep it loose today and just sort of like have a casual chat with you because I know you've texted me about some shit recently and I've seen some shit recently and then I was just like, let's just have a conversation and just like tell me about some cool shit you've seen, man. Yeah, man, cool while back on the Rp partarty we were talking about comedians. andeseners chimed in with a lot of, you know, great recommendations, Maria Banford and Richard Priyor and Bill Hicks and lots and lots of good recommendations. But you know, one name I didn't hear was Ali Sadk who I feel isn't as well known as he should be. and it's of appropriate to bring him up right now because he just dropped his new special called My Father, which you can find on YouTube where you can find all of his specials. Okay. And it's just absolutely fantastic. And I think He needs to be included in the conversation of great comedians, particularly great storytellers his style is more storytelling than jokes. Have you seen any of his specials? I've seen I haven't seen entire specials yet. I've seen clips of them. and I feel like I'm doing myself a disservice by doing it that way because to your point I feel like the point of his specials is like the overarching narrative of them, right Yeah, yeah. hisis style is more of like a storytelling thing. It's kind of in between stand up in a one man show, I would say This guy is so prolific. starting in twenty twenty two, he'd been in the game, I think at that point for about a decade, maybe. All right. In twenty twenty two, he started this thing called his Domino effffect series, which was a series of specials that are all about his life from the time he was ten years old until now And he puts out like an hour special every like three months. He's doing like three, four a year, which is insane. That is crazy. When you consider most like the really top comics will put out an hour Maybe a year, sometimes every other year. Right. Yeah. His stuff is really incredible because it's all like one long story So for example, like a character that he'll mention in Domino Eect partart one will crop back up in Domino Effect part four and you can kind of connect the dots because you know the character, you know stuff about them.. So it's a very like rich experience if you can make the time to listen to all of them That's incredible that he does so many so close to each other when it sounds like they're very like intricately Designed You know, narratively? Yeah, I think they are, but I think his part of his mastery is he makes it seem so off the cuff it's very clear, you know, if you really pay attention to what he's doing that, you know, each each hour has a theme each hour tends to build to sort of an emotional moment and you know, effectively, you, the moral of the story or the theme of the story. And he's so good that he can, you know, he can make you laugh and cry and laugh in the span of like thirty seconds. He's just That's just incredible. That's awesome. And the new one is all about his father and his complicated relationship with his father His previous one was called My two Sons, which is about his sons. So lots of stuff about family and stuff like that. He's from Houston. I think the thing that really put him on the map or where he really started was telling a lot of stories about his time in prison. He was in prison for six years for being, as he says, a street pharmaceutical rep. He' sort of discovered in prison like, oh, I can make people laugh. Like Tim Allen did. Yeah, exactly. That kind of reminds me hearing you talk about him, kind of reminds me of that. Did you see that one John Malany special? I forget the name now, but it was all about his addiction And likees him going to rehab and stuff and then it's basically an hour long story M People don't do that enough. probablyably because it's fucking difficult to do, right? Right, Right But I love that sort of like comedy storytelling, you know, because that show is less like you know, haha jokes and more like this very intense dramatic story that's being told through the lens of humor, I guess, you know? Yeah, I think that's a good comp because a lot of the stuff he's talking about is, you know, it's a lot of it's very painful. Yeah. but he, you know, it's extremely funny. unique style and I just think a really unique voice that we should be listening to. One caveat I will offer is that you know some of our listeners may be familiar with the sort of fallout from the Riadh comedy festival. And I only recently learned that he was one of the comedians that performed at that. Oh, interesting So you know, I'm not going to lie. I'm a little disappointed that he did that, but I'm also not going to like pass judgment on it and and I I also think He is such a great artist that to deprive yourself of the opportunity to listen to his point of view because of that, I think would be a mistake. So you know, just for the listeners, if That's really important to you and that's a deal breaker, that's cool. But know I haven't heard his perspective on it either. I'm assuming that we'll hear very shortly. probablyroably a one hour special What us what us you been checking out L lately I'm going caveat this with to the listeners of you and I were talking about blind spots the other day. know you and I, especially you though, are particularly well informed about music and stuff like that. but everybody has blind spots, these things that they've just missed or ignored for some stupid reason or ignored or it didn't come along at the right time. Right. Whatever Well, we were talking a while back when I was on the show that Pafunk is one of my blind spots and So I decided to kind of rectify that and I was just like, I'm just gonna to dive into the pool here. And the first thing I got into, I mean mean, I mean, I know Pfunk. I know the hits because of you know the doror Day thing and ye I know the basic gist of it, but I do not know their records and stuff like that. So anyway, I wanted to recommend this video that maybe some people have not seen. and probablyb a lot of our listeners have, but if you haven't, or you want a good place to start with PFunk There's a video mothership connection live in Houston. It's a show from Halloween, nineteen seventy six. It's just it's on Netflix, right? not Netlix out YouTube. It's on YouTube. Yes And this performance is absolutely mind blowing I could not believe what I was hearing and seeing. It was so good. Yeah so funky. Yeah. So apparently this show is In eighty six, they released the Mothership Connection live album I think it was one side of it was a live thing and then the other side was like George Clinton Solo stuff. Okay. So it has been released and they also released it as a video cassette in eighty six as well. Hell yeah I don't think that that's available anymore. I don't know if it's been put out on DVD. Maybe a listener can chime in on that. My God, this show is incredible. It's got the mothership. it's got The opening acts, check this out, dude. The opening acts were Bootsy's Rubber band and Sly Stone No shit Wow You have the horny horns. you got Fred Wesley, Maci O Parker playing horns. This was just such an eye opening experience to me to see How Sminal T fununk is in terms of things like Afro futurism and stuff like that. likeike when you when you go see Black Panther or you see any of these black sci fi all goes back to them and I guess son Rob before that, but sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like there's a giant communal blind spot when it comes to Funk Aelic, P fununk. As just said, they're so seminal. They're such a part of like ingrained in our consciousness, but I feel like They have been so u sererved to us. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you think about like I was just watching Quest Love has a new documentary on Earth Wind and Fire that I was watching the other night. And he made that one on Sly a few years ago as well. And like all these like great black artists who are like getting their dues sort of, notot that Earthm and Fire didn't get their due back in the day. I mean, September iss like one of the biggest fucking songs ever right? You know what I mean?ike I don't know shit about. I didn't know that The dude from Earthwind and Fire was the drummer in the Ramseay Lewis tri first before he was did that. There's so much history there, I think in Funkadelleic and Pfunk and George Clinton that we just don't know about that I think is just like ripe for picking and I would love to like see a dog on this or read a book or maybe there's a book out there on this. I'm just completely ignorant to it. Right, right you know, I think a lot of is just, I think in black culture, these figures are much more towering, but they haven't necessarily crossed over into consciousness in the in the same way way. Yeah. the same level, you know, So I think you and I both probably our introduction to PFunk was probably through O at least for me, was probably through Dror Dread. Yes, absolutely. And seeing George Clinton as just this crazy man on MTV who was just like the coolest guy ever Yeah, you know, And I was like, oh, that's the P fununk guy. but ye yeah, not really understanding how important his music is his whole beyond the music, like just the the The whole like aesthetic, the whole art form of it is Really, really mind blowing. the sense of like communal joy that I felt watching that show I mean I'm watching a show from fifty years ago on my computer. somehow I feel transported to that place with these people That's this incredible experience. Yeah. And you know, I guess it makes me think a little bit of like the When you talk to like a really committed deadhead or something, to the sort of experience that they do sure For sure. That's an interesting way to think about that. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like it's kind of like the black version of that. Total. Totally And she was just fantastic. and the I cannot recommend this enough. So if you are like me and are a middle aged white guy who missed the pefunk mothershhip, get on board on the mers Lord. I know the I know the Funkelic records really well, like before before peafunk. It's almost like the the They took like the Hendrix thing and kind of like leveled it up to the next level, right? Like especially with Edie Hazel playing guitar there who was sort of like the next Hendrix until he sort of fell off the wagon or whatever. Yeah. Do you know that story about when they made Maga Brain and that title track, Magab Brain is basically a ten minute guitar solo. It's very slow. And I't know if it's apocphal but supposly George Clinton said to Edie Hazle I want you to play the first half the guitar sol like someone' just told you your mother's died And then halfway through They're like, no, wait, she's actually so alive.. That was like the direction and they were all in like acid making it or whatever. And it's fucking incredible. I love it. You know, going back to the blind spot thing, I'm just really excited that there's this incredible music that is brand new to me. That's awesome. That I can experience as an adult where my tastes are more fully formed and I can appreciate now. So I guess despite the fact that I'm so late to this party, like I'm just super psyched that I'm there, I guess. That's awesome I love that. So, you know, speaking of acid and incredible experiences I want to recommend this video that I stumbled across. It's about five or six years old. It's got one point seven million views. So I don't think it's particularly obscure or at least to a particular audience. I stumbled across this film called Star Trek Acid Party on YouTube Is there an exclamation point at the end of that, by the way? or I just I don't think so, but there should be. All right, yeah U how to describe this? Well You know, I've always liked Star Trek. So yes. that was sort of an in to me. and I like weird videos. so this was really perfect for me. So this was created, I believe around twenty twenty, maybe in the pandemic. Okay. This is a film. It's like a forty five minute film that samples and recontextualizes clips from Star Trek the nextext Generation. mashing it up with a variety of really excellent music And it's sort of described as following the emotional and psychological phases of an acid trip That's where our jumping off point sure how to describe it Can you imagine Picard like, you know dropping a tab of acid the enterpr notot the entnerprise. What ship was he on? the Enterprise D. Okay, thank you. Yeahah. The Enterprise D. Okay Excuse me Enterprise D. Thank you. Thank you. Let's clear that up. We don't want to get a lot of angry emails. I don't know what the Venn diagram between discoos and Star Trek. That's a great question. That's a great question. I know when we were talking about TV a while back, a lot of people recommended Star Trek. So I think we've got a few customers out there This film is really technically impressive and artistically impressive because the creator is doing all this incredible editing. I think there's a whole genre of stuff 's in this style, but I don't know really what to call it. Maybe somebody can fill me in, You know, he'll do things like stutter, like the reels kind of and stutter and like create these rhythms out of the soundtrack of someone speaking. Okay Really, really interesting. He's manipulating the video in all these trippy ways, like people's heads are distorted But the thing that really got me is the music the way that he's using music, it's filled with kind of stoner classics like There's a lot of pink Floyd. Like there's a scene where and the crew are watching on the big view screen, they're watching the Wizard of Oz sync to nice nice. Yeah. So there's a bunch of print pink Floyid. There's stuff from Live at Pompei and that kind of stuff. So nice. That's another blind spot for me. So this was like a great way. I mean, I know some pink Floyid, but this is another great way of like, whoa, this Lve at Pompei thing is wild. I gotta check this out Totally. There's doctor Dreay, there's Miles Davis. You know, there's this scene with this great Herbie Hancock keyboard music and there's like this alien with long fingers and he's just kind of like moving his fingers around I'm not saying you have to be in an altered state to watch it. Right,. But I imagine it helps There's fart jokes. I always wanted Star Trek to have more acid in it, so I think that's gonna be this is gonna be good. Oh, and there's a great scene that's set to Eya. This is for the Star Trek heads out there, but there's a great scene with Ea where Picard is playing his flute. Star Trek fans will know the flute is very important in an episode called The Inner Light, which is considered one of the greatest Star Trek episodes of all time So if you want to watch Picard play his inner light flute to an Nia track, this is where you go to see that content I think that's like been meanans right? hasn't it? Aolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right, All right. That's a great episode. If you just want a good story, even if you're not a Star Trek fan, that's a fantast epode. All right. I don't know that I've ever watched an entire next generation episode before. I can give you some starting points if you're interest. Okay, cool, cool. The more flute, the better I really wanted to hear I wanted to hear from you today mostly, but I'll shout out a couple things that I've been digging lately. So I saw Steven Spielberg's latest movie Disclosure Day. You know, kind of like Scresese's killers of the Flower mooon, this new movie. Spielberg's like he's seenty nine eighty years old. This film is exploring a lot of the themes that he's been exploring over his entire career. and it feels almost like summationally sort of like, you know, we're here nearing the end and're still thinking about aliens and families and whatever. In the context, everyone's kind of using this as an opportunity to look back on Spielberg's catalogue. And a movie that kept on coming up over and over again was Munich which he made back in their two thousand three, Maybe it's the early two thousands, I think, about the hostages at the nineteen seventy two Olympic Games in Munich I saw this when it first came out I remember really liking it. It was one of those, you know, it's like, Sving Private Ryan or Schindler's list where it feels like a different kind of Spielberg movie and then it's rooted entirely in reality. and it's about a really serious subject and it's sort of him operating on a different frequency, you know So remember thinking that about this when it came out and really liking, but I haven't seen it in over twenty years and everyone keeps on bringing up, well, you know Probably the technically the most impressive movie Spiberg ever made was Munich I went back and I rewatched it last week It's just It's incredible. It's the most violent movie. Spielbergs ever made. I't remember that. It's like Scororsesee level violence Technically, it is it's just incredible how he'll set a scene And there's like five different characters And the camera will start over here. and it will start moving and there's like someone on a bike over here and there's someone getting out of a car here and there's someone in a phone booth here and it's almost like as the camera is like tracking over. The focus is right it's changing from here to there. It's it's the foreground. It's the background And it's just like so masterful and it doesn't feel gimmicky either when when it's happening If the subject matter is dark It's a dark film. One of his darkest films probably. It's just fun to be like in the hands of a master filmmaker like that and just sort of be along for the ride, you know? You know it's funny you mentioned that shot Kning Spielberg, you know, Who knows he may have set that up on the day. You know, Yeah He's known for doing that. Like he's so good at blocking and setting up a scene and he usually just does it on the day when he gets there, which is crazy. It is crazy. I' crazy. The cinematographer must have been like, wait a minute, you want to do what? Yeah I know But anyways, totally recommended. G movie. And then something I'm been listening to a bunch lately, I this isn't a movie, but do you know about this guy Arthur Russell Rll No, I don't think. So he's this dude. He was from Iowa. He moved out to New York City in the seventies and became so he was like a He was a cellist. He had a background in like classical music, but he moved to New York in the mid seventies. He was part of this whole like avant garde music sce, but he was also on the ground floor of like underground disco there as well. He ended up collaborating with people like Byrne and Philip Glass and Ellen Ginsburg. He was very much a part of the cutting edge art scene music. en in New York City from the seventies into the eighties died in the early nineties, I think AIDS complications of due to AIDS I think he was only like forty. I think he died in poverty. He's remained very obscure, but he was I mean, there's so many of these characters from that whole era that were so integral to that scene Nobody knows about because they've just sort of been lost to history a little bit. There's this compilation of his stuff that came out A few years ago that I finally picked up, it's called Love is Overtaking Me There's this song that opens with it's just him an acoustic guitar. It's called Close Close My Eyes. It's very like Elliott Smith esque. It's very like teender almost like a country diddy kind of song. And it's cool the compilition goes between like country ditties and it's got like Almost like Aman Gardi classical pop kind of stuff and it's got stuff it's more electronicy. I mean, it's kind of like all over the place and he was definitely like guy who had his hand on many different pots musically and creatively I don't know, it's like uncking this other. dimension of that whole era of of New York. It's it's fun to discover these Things like this. Arthur Russell. Okay. I'm going to have to check that out. I wonder if there's a dock or something about him or know, there I think there is a dock. and now that you mentioned that, I need to look that up. I think there might be a dock about him. Yeah W Yeah, But love is overtaking me is the compilation. I think that's the easiest The easiest one to find it came out a couple of years ago and I think it was just reissued as well. So Very cool I must check that out. Thanks, man. All right, Ive got two recommendations for you today. We're going long here and I honestly, I was really just I wanted to hear about Pfunk and Star Trek on acid All right, well I'm curious if the listeners know about some of these things or can school us on some of the holes in our in our knowledge here. so Totally. let us know. Let us know. Hit us up. always six one, seven, nine zero six six, six, three eight, leave us voicemail. Snd us a text. Matt, thanks so much for joining me this week Yeah, man, absolutely have a great week and I will I'll see you soon. All right, sounds good later All right gang, there you go. There's a couple of main boys giving you some recommendations for the holiday weekend Not sure what you guys have got going on, but I hope some R and R is in your future, Mbe a barbecue, maybe a pool party, maybe a movie What are you guys watching this weekend? Let me know. You you gonna to go to the local cinema? You're gonna to fire something up on your TV at home I want to know what you're watching over the fourourth of July weekend. I just watched Raging Bull last night again, my son is trying to watch all these classics with me. So whenever we get the chance to do so, you know, we do and he really digs Scorsese so busted that out last night I was telling him how this was the movie that made me want to go to film school when I was in high school, which is absolutely true. I remember seeing this and just being blown away by the black and white photography and the camera work booxing scenes, De Niro's performance, Joe Pesi's performance. I hadd never heard people talk like that to each other before, you know, my my grandmother's from New York I've got family in New York. My grandmother is from Queens It's still, you know, besides a family reunion here and there where I got a little bit of the accent going on, I've never seen this sort of this sort of home life or culture or anything before. The movie just blew me away on so many levels. So anyways, we watched it, he really liked it He put it at number two on his scores Hzy list of what he've seen so far. I think he's got Shutter Island at number three because he's he's a horror fan, ride or die. What's it number Oh Goodfells is number one. He obviously hasn't seen everything yet, obviously But that's where he's at so far. Goodfells one, Raging Bull two shutter Island three. Let me know guys, donon't be a stranger. Give me a shout However you want to do it You can text me, six one seven, ninez six, six six three eight. You can leave me a voicemail also six one seven, ninez six, six six three eight. You can email me at disgraceeland Pod at gmail. com or if you are a member of Dgraceland All acccess over in Patreon You know, I'm always there