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I'm your host Zef Londy, writer, showrunner and good doctor here at Double Elvis . And today in the Hollywood rap party, we're talking about red shoes, red slippers , one of the craziest stories about the heist of a pair of classic Hollywood memorabilia. I'm talking about Judy Garland , talking about movie remakes . I've got recommendations from me and Jake Brennan about great cover songs and great cover movies and your calls, your text and emails. So come on everybody, let's party The first job I got when I moved to Boston to go to college back in the mid nineties was as a security guard at the Isabella St ewart Gardner Museum . The Gardner , as it's commonly referred to, is one of the most unique museums you'll ever encounter. Located near Femway and not too far from the other major museum in town, the Museum of Fine Arts . The Gardner is a cur ated collection of paintings, sculptures, furniture, and tapestries that were purchased by its namesake, Isabella Stewart Gardner. Gardner was a philanthrop ist originally from New York City who traveled the world buying up all these incredible pieces of art and history, which she then brought back to this building on Femway Court, a breathtaking piece of architecture which opened to the public in nineteen oh three and which provides three stories of iconic art as well as a gorgeous courtyard in the center featuring plants and flowers that bloom in all four seasons. But there's another unique quality to the gardener that continues to draw crowds to this day . And this is the thing that every single guest talks about when they visit. And I know this from my one year as a security guard there . Everyone wants to know about the heist . The Isabella Gardening Museum is of course the site of the most infamous art heist in history, a heist that remains to this day thirty six years later , unsolved . In the early hours of march eighteenth, nineteen ninety, as the city was putting itself to bed after another rousing day and night of St. Patrick's Day celebrations. Two men posing as Boston police officers gained entrance to the museum . They proceeded to steal thirteen works of art from inside , including one of only a handful of paintings ever created by Johann Vermeer . They stole numerous rembrands, a Dagas, a Manet, and a flink , though curiously, they did not take Titans the rape of Europa, which was one of the most valuable pieces in the Gardener's collection. The total worth of the stolen art is now estimated to be worth somewhere in the five hundred million dollars range. What upsets art historians and enthusiasts the most about this heist is that the paintings were all cut out of their frames, which raises multiple concerns about how their violent removal damaged the canvases . And the museum has left the frames of the missing pie ces of art intact on the walls alongside other artwork that has remained , reminding visitors of what happened and prompting visitors to discuss one of the most brazen and puzzling crimes in Boston's history from floor to floor to floor. I wonder if Judy Garland ever wandered the halls of the Gardner Museum during one of her many visits to Boston . We know that she performed at the Boston Common. We know she took in a Red Sox game at Family Park , and we know that she frequented the Lennox Hotel . We even know that she did at least one stint at Brigham Hospital in Boston in nineteen forty nine when she was desperately trying to kick her addiction to pills. Judy Garland's reliance on pills and prescription drugs was a product of her childhood and her exploitation by Hollywood on the set of the nineteen thirty nine MGM film The Wizard of Oz . Judy was not alone. Many child actors at the time were given pills to perk them up, pills to calm them down , all the while being fed a restrictive and extremely unhealthy diet to maintain their low weight . But the story of Judy Garland in some ways shares similarities with this story about the Gardener Museum because the story of Judy Garland involves a brazen heist . And to get into that story, I got to back up and talk about The Wizard of Oz real quick. So in nineteen thirty nine , when the film was shot, The Wizard of Oz was one of the most expensive movies ever made . There were over nine thousand actors over four hundred fifty and crew members and over six thousand contractors working across thirty sound stages in sixty five different sets . The extravagant three million dollar production was released in theaters at the end of the Great Depression , giving down on their luck Americans somewhere over the rainbow to dream about . Like those slippers , the red slippers , Judy Garland's Size five sequined shoes . There's something about red shoes, whether it's the song by Elvis Costello or the song by Tom Waites , or the nineteen forty nine Powell and Pressburger film or a classic pair of Air Jordans . Red shoes have an appeal something unique and outside the norm , something you sing about, something you make a movie about, something you want for yourself. But Judy Garland's red shoes from the Wizard of Oz are something else entirely. And I do mean shoes as implural because it wasn't just one pair that Judy wore. There were numerous pairs created for the Wizard of Oz movie shoot. These were white pumps that were painted or dyed red with hundreds of sequins hands sewn into them with silk thread . Now, when the market for vintage movie memorabilia really started to take off in the nineteen sixties , items like Judy Garland's red shoes from the Wizard of Oz became a coveted piece of cinema history . When MGM held an auction in nineteen seventy to sell off a bunch of movie props from its decorated history, most people thought that the pair of red slippers from the Wizard of Oz were one of a kind . And the person who won that auction in nineteen seventy and bought the pair for fifteen thousand dollars, certainly thought so. But slowly , other pairs began to emerge . There's the pair that currently reside at the Smithsonian Museum of American History in Washington, DC There's the pair that two California collectors bought at a Christie's auction in two thousand for six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars. A very interesting number to be attached to this pair of slippers six, six, six. Then there's the pair that Debbie Reynolds once owned and which were auctioned off in twenty eleven for over six hundred twenty seven thousand dollars . There's the pair that was sold to a group of Hollywood collectors, collectors including Leonardo DiCaprio , which went on display at the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences . And then there's the so called traveling pair . This pair of Judy Garland's ruby red slippers were purchased by an LA acting coach and amateur collector named Michael Shaw , who loaned them out to festivals and museums , including the Judy Garland Museum in Judy's hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan, where in the year two thousand five they were stolen . On the evening of august twenty seventh, two thousand five , a single staffer at the Judy Garland Museum closed up shop, set the alarm, locked the door, and left . The next morning when she returned shortly before ten AM , she noticed that the alarm system was in auxiliary mode, which she had never seen before. An emergency door window was shattered and the plexiglass case protecting the traveling pair of Judy Garland's red slippers had been smash ed to pieces and the shoes were gone. There were rumors that some local kids did it. There were rumors that Michael Shaw, the owner of the shoes, did it, rumors fueled by the eight hundred thousand dollars insurance payout that Shaw received two years later in two thousand seven when the shoes remained missing . Over the years, the cops got many tips , they all turned out to be dead ends. They were replicas, fakes, fugaz . The case was passed down from one investigator to another . It went cold , but an occasionally warmed up, like in july twenty seventeen , twelve years later, when Grand Rapids lead investigator, Brian Madsen got a call . The caller said he knew who had the purloin slippers and sent a photo of the supposed thief and sent a photo that the supposed thief had taken of them at their place of residence. The photo was taken digitally , so it included metadata including GPS coordinates of its location. But shortly thereafter, Madsen heard from a lawyer who was representing the caller who had called Madsen because the alleged thief had since become upset that this person was talking to the cops . So this seemed like a real thing . Real enough that Matson got the FBI involved and the Feds took over . They reached out to the lawyer who had gotten in touch with Matson and arranged a meeting without letting the guy know that he was talking to and now planning to meet the FBI . This is something that happens by the way . A piece of art or other valuable will get stolen , it'll get passed off to a person called a fence who kind of holds onto it and then years later after the statute of limitations has run out, the fence, the thief they'll attempt to sell this item with the help of a lawyer or another intermediary . So in twenty eighteen , the Feds meet up with this lawyer who brings the traveling pair of Judy Garland's red slippers . Before making themselves known, the Feds watch from a safe distance . They watch the lawyer go into a coffee shop that's near the agreed upon spot. He orders a coffee, and then he puts the red shoes on a table and leaves them there while he goes to use the bathroom . Meanless to say, the FBI got the shoes and they were the real deal . These were the red shoes that had been stolen from the Judy Garland Museum some thirteen years prior . Now this led to the arrest of the thief, a man named Terry John Martin, who was around fifty six years old when he stole the shoes back in two thousand five. Martin was an ex Con who had served what he'd hoped was his last prison term a decade prior , but he was tempted to pull off just one last score when he heard about these red shoes. He'd been given a tip by an old mob associate that the shoes were adorned with real jewels , thus the one million dollar insured value . But once he got them in his hands, Martin discovered that they weren't real jewels, they weren't real rubies , they were just sequins and glass beads . So we got rid of them and that's how they wound up in the hands of Jerry Soliderman of Minnesota. So Liderman was in his mid seventies when he faced a judge. He was charged with theft of a major artwork and witness tampering. The indictment stated that from august two thousand five to july twenty eighteen, Saliderman quote received concealed, and disposed of an object of cultural heritage unquote . The indictment further claims that he knew that they were stolen and that he had threatened to release a sex tape that featured footage of an unknown woman and said he would take her down with him if she didn't keep quiet about the shoes . Saliderman died in twenty twenty five at the age of seventy seven before he could be sentenced. Now Terry John Martin, on the other hand, the original thief . He was seventy six years old when he faced the judge in twenty twenty three . He pleaded guilty and due to his age and failing health, he was sentenced to time served and was ordered to pay twenty three thousand five hundred dollars in restitution to the museum at the tune of three hundred dollars a month. But what happen to the red shoes? Well, they were put up for auction , and in December of twenty twenty four , they sold for a record twenty eight million dollars , which far exceeded the previous record for a piece of entertainment memorabilia that would be Marilyn Monroe's white dress that she wore while standing over a windy subway grate and the seven year itch, which had fetched less than six million dollars years pri . Judy Garland died this week back in nineteen sixty nine on june twenty second to be exact . And we've got her in the feed this week and on the brain. Perhaps you've already heard our fully scripted and sound design episode on Jude, Judy, Jude from a few days ago, back on Monday. Coming this Friday, however, we're going to shift gears just a little bit. We're going to shift up to an adjacent gear that is we're going to talk about the twenty eighteen film A Star is Born, directed by and starring Bradley Cooper, along with Lady Gaga. This is a remake of the nineteen seventy six film starring Barbara Streisand and Chris Christopherson , which was a remake of the nineteen fifty four film, starring Judy Garland and James Mason , which was a remake of the nineteen thirty seven film starring Janet Gainer and Frederick March . This prompted our question of the week for this week, which is what is your favorite film that is a remake of another film? And I've got your responses to that question of the week coming up here very soon , and then later in the show , I'll be joined as I usually am by Jake Brennan, my guy from Disgracedland. We're going to give you guys some recommendations for songs and movies that are covers of older songs and movies . But before we get into all that, let's peer into our crystal ball real quick and see what we've got coming up for you next week. Next week we've got our fully scripted and sound design episode from our archive on Bob Crane . If you watched Nick and Knight back in the day, you remember Bob Crane from the reruns of the nineteen sixties sitcom Hogan's Heroes . But Bob Crane lived a secret double life that few people knew about . His custom built pornographic paradises were hidden behind the closed doors of his dressing room and apartment. He was obsessed with extra marital sexual exploits, and he documented them with cutting edge technology. The joy he received from making people smile was matched only by his need to fill his darkest desires , a need that would end in murder. This is tragic territory, but it's also scandalous territory , which leads me to next week's question of the week , which is what is a Hollywood scandal that absolutely shocked you when it broke. Hit me up and let me know . You can call or text me at six one seven nine zero six eight . You can also email me at disgraced pod at gmail dot com or if you're a member of Disgraced Land All Access on Patreon , go jump into the chat and let me know. And while you're doing that, I'm going to take a quick break, but I'll be right back with your voicemails, your texts, and your emails and more . So do as Sir Rod Stewart says and stay with me So there's a lot of noise about AI, but time's too tight for more promises. So let's talk about results. At IBM, we work with our employees to integrate technology right into the systems they need. 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The doctor is in one seven nine zero six eight that's how you get in touch. We're talking about some of our favorite movie remakes of all time . I've got the receipts here guys. First of all, I got a text here from the four , which reads. Hey there , below are some of the best remix of all time . Oceans eleven The Thing The Magnificent Seven A Fistful of Dollars Invasion of the Body Snatchers, the departed . The four here mentions after a fistful of dollars. Love seeing Kurasawa being slaughtered into a western . And yeah, a fistful of dollars is a remake of Kurosawa's Akira Kurosawa's nineteen sixty one film Yojimbo. And also the Magnificent Seven here on your list is a remake of Kurosawa's nineteen fifty four film The Seven Samurai , and it's amazing how well these samurai movies translate to Westerns. I mean, they were they were essentially Japanese Westerns that were being made just about a different time and place, right? The Seven Samurai , you know , I love this list four hundred four hundred . I was never able to get behind the magnificent seven being better than the Seven Samurai just because Seven Samurai was like my entry point to Kurosa wa, it was the first Kurosawa film I ever saw, fell in love with it and still love it to this day. And I do love the magnificent seven and to your point, I love seeing Kurosawa being translated into an American Western but Seven Samurai for me is just the best. Yo Jimbo, that's been made that's been remade or movies have been inspired by that for a long time. There was a movie with Bruce Willis called Last Man St anding that was highly influenced by that. You know, these movies were like, you know, a stranger rolls into town and ends up like, you know , saving people or dealing with two worrying fact ions very much cut from the Yojimbo cloth . Thank you four hundred four for your text. Okay, got another one here from the eight hundred three , which says oh, I think it's from the eight hundred forty three sorry , the eight hundred three, but the text starts with, hey , from the four hundred one three here. Anyways , wherever you're from Texer, you write first I have to say I'm fairly new to this outstanding podcast and I've been catching up on archives between new episodes. Well, thank you. Okay, here's my remake picks. Nothing against William Bendix who was perfect for his era , but the babe over the Babe Ruth story , and heaven can wait over here comes Mr. Jordan. Bendix against John Goodman and Warren Baty just isn't a fair fight and the Jeff Bridge's true grit over the John Wayne Original the overall, casting, cinematography, and faithfulness to the source material gives the remake an insurmountable edge. A three, I completely agree with you on true grip. I think it's incredible and I think it's overlooked because it is a remake and people just think like, oh, here we go, retreading . The same thing, same material, but it very much is a different film in all the ways that you mentioned. It's one of my Dark Horse favorite Kohen Brothers movies . I have never seen the original William Bendix films that you mentioned. I know of them, of course , but yeah, I mean, John Goodman it's hard to be John Goodman as Babe Ruth. So appreciate you eight hundred three , wherever you're from, wherever you're calling from. Appreciate the text. Got another text here on the same subject from the eight six zero , which says Column from the eight six zero here, favorite remake is John Carpenter's The Thing , remake of The Thing From Another World, such a great movie. I watch it every year on the night of the first big snowfall. That's a great tradition. The first big snowfall, watching the thing. I just rewatched this recently with my son and my wife who had not my wife had not seen it and we showed it. We wanted her to see it and she was not as annoyed as we wanted her to be. It's just not her thing. The thing is not her thing , but I love this. I love this idea for the first big snowfall. That's a great tradition. Thanks eight . All right, switching gears a little bit . And again, email disgraced lamb pod at gm e.al com if you want to get in touch. I got I was talking about Spielberg last week because I was talking about I just saw Disclosure Day. I also rewatched catch me if you can ahead of that and I've got Munich on deck to re.watch I have not rewatched Munich since it came out and it's been on my mind for a while. I was listening to a couple of different podcasts about people talking about Spielberg's career in relation to Disclosure Day and Munich kept on coming up and I was like, Damn I got to rewatch that at some point. I haven't it's been too long. So I got that queued up. So speaking of all that stuff, I got an email here from Jason and the subject line is Spielbergo. It says Hi Zath, Jason and the eight hundred forty five. I understand his technical brilliance and his impact as a towering giant, however, I only like two films Jaws and Raiders of the Lost Arc. Why? Because he always tells you how to feel in every film instead of letting you figure it out. He uses close ups to force feed you emotions and he also shoves John Williams down your throat telegraphing everything . Hey, I know everyone disagrees with me, but I actually do know some people who agree with me, not many, but it's a lot of fun to argue with you guys. I want films that don't spoon feed you . As to remakes, Wild Heart comes to mind and the magnificent seven. Thanks, Jason. So Spielberg , I hear this. I've talked a lot about being radicalized when I went to film school and this is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Spielberg and emotional manipulation . And this is what this is what , you know, our professors at school wanted to sort of detach us from this ingrained sense of manipulation at the movies but so for a while there I was in full agreement with you. I kind of like got off the Spielberg train for a minute. But I've come back around and I don't know, sometimes I want to be manipulated. You know what I mean? I'm into it. I'm into it. Like make me feel the and what you want me to feel . But I don't know, I'm curious if there's any other movies that Spielberg made besides Jaws and Raiders of the Lost Arc that you feel don't do this. I'm guessing no based on based on your message here. But listen, I always appreciate the opposite point of view and I do hear you. There is some validity to what you are saying and what you're complaining about. I get it. I get it he's just fuck he's such a good filmmaker . All right, Jason, I appreciate you as always man. Okay, got another text here from the four oh and it reads oh let me back up here for a minute. Back in up. Sorry, that was too fat. It's more of a dude dude dude. There's my backup alarm . Couple weeks ago we were talking about, uh, we were talking about Lucill e Ball. We were talking about funny performances by women, by comedians. Okay, there's your context. Here's the text from the four hundred O llo, Zeth, Jefferson from the four hundred. I'm responding to your quest ion about the funniest, must see performances by women. I tried to steer away from seemingly obvious answers like bridesmaids and come up with some less obvious roles. Nothing against Bridesmaids. Those are some of the funniest women on the planet and that movie is hysterical . Razing Arizona is one of the funniest movies ever made and features terrific performances by both Holly Hunter Francis McDorman. I also wanted to shine some light on a couple of great performances and male dominated movies . Isla Fisher crushes every scene she's in wedding crashes, a movie where Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn are throwing straight heat for two hours , and Leslie Mann pops up in the forty year old Virgin for about five minutes is one of the funni est parts of the movie. Keep up the great work. Hollywoodland has become one of my favorite movie pods. Love the conversations . Cheers . Cheers to you in the four wedding crashers Isla Fisher's line. The I'll find you lying is my wife and I say that to each other probably like five times a week . So I'm fully on board with you there. Yeah, Francis McDorman is just like lightning in Raising, Arizona. He's got to get his dipet. It's the best. It's the best four . You're speaking my language. I love it. Got another email here from Mark . This one I think I when I was talking about disclosure day , I was talking about how I didn't think too much about Emily Blunt, but I was blown away by a performance in this. And this is what Mark is responding to. Mark says Zha.et It's your boy Mark here from the four hundred fifty. While listening to your always excellent show this week, I was shocked, nay stunned by your lack of love for the great Emily Blunt. Not only is she amazing and disclosure day which seemed an aberration to you, but I would like to draw your attention to the following movies she has starred or co starred in and gave stellar performances. Sucario, Emily plays an FBI agent caught up in a Mexican cartel revenge movie. Oppenheimer, she gives a delicious ly understated performance as Kitty Oppenheimer. Edge of Tomorrow, she portrays a kickass marine in this fun sci fi action movie and easily holds her own against Tom Cruise. A quiet place for me, she steals the movie as the pregnant wife in a world where any sound can mean death. Zeth, I urge you to reconsider and get aboard the Emily Blunt bus, keep up the great work, Mark. You got me, Mark. You got me dead to rights there, man. As soon as I saw this email , as soon as I saw Sicario, I was like, fuck . I forgot about Sakario . Sakario, what am I fucking love that movie? And she is incredible in that movie and she is incredible in Oppenheimer . So I stand corrected. I don't know , I guess I don't know what it is then. Why why was I not remembering those things? Why would this seem like a revelation to me ? I don't know. Maybe your performance is just next level in this new movie. But you are correct and I do stand corrected here. Mark, appreciate you keeping me honest as always. A text from the nine hundred one here that reads Hey Jake slash Zeth, are either of you watching the show maximum pleasure guaranteed. Highly recommended. I finished Widows Bay and I read where Stephen King liked it , but this show he found to be great. I checked it out and it's amazing so far. It's also on Apple TV. Keep up the good work, Elizabeth and the seven one . Again, am I maybe I'm not updating my doc here. I wrote down text nine hundred one and then she signs off seven hundred thirty one. I don't know where my head's at today, man . No, Elizabeth, I have not seen this yet. I know of it. I do want to check it out. So I'm going to do that. You know what I'm watching right now? I'm watching this Netflix series based on a Harlan Coben novel called I will find you. I'd find you . Harlan Coben wrote this book called Tell No one that I was super into. So anyways, there's this new series I'll find you, I will find you , I will find you. I'd find you it's based on one of his books. And look , it's it can be sort of like cheesy and hacky and at times and as it drags on sort of the holes are starting to show a little bit more. But when this started, it was like at the end of every episode it was like,, holy shit I need to see the next episode. It was just like crack , highly entertaining crack. I'm just addicted to that show right now. A little ashamed of a minute because like I said, it's kind of the cracks are getting larger and starting to show as it goes on and I'm just like how plot twisty can we get here? What the fuck is going on? But I'm still into it. I'm still into it. I'm going to check out Maximum Pleasure, guaranteed Elizabeth after this one. So thank you for that wreck. I've got a text here from Chad in the six hundred and four who says use cars is one of my favorite eighties cult classics. But if you can find a copy of the movie with a commentary edition that Kurt Russell and Bob Zem akus did. It is actually hilarious and sometimes I go to watch the movie and just watch the commentary edition instead. Chad, I think I saw something in my feed one of my feeds recently that had, it's just like Kurt Russell is like laughing, nonstop, right? The Kurt Russell laugh. I gotta check this out . Thank you for the text there, Chad. Guys, six one seven nine zero six six three eight. You can text , you can call , you can text like the six one zero who wrote in D rug S. I get it. You and Jake cracked me up rockerla , which is, of course, a reference to the cover of Harry Nilsson's Pussycats album with the really juvenile drugs visual joke on it or you can text just like Charlie and the eight hundred forty three who wrote in Zeth, I will never hear Jamericai the same way again . And you're welcome for that, Charlie. If you guys don't know what he's talking about, go listen to last week's episode and now you'll know six one seven nine zero six six three eight disgraceland pod at gmail dot com jump in the chat over ongr Dacised land , all access on Patreon . Guys, do not touch that dial. I'm gonna take a quick break and when I come back, I'm gonna be joined by my guy Jake Brennan to talk music and movie recommendations, don't nobody go where there's a lot of noise about AI, but time's too tight for more promises. So let's talk about results. 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Vimoash bundle terms and exclusions apply that one hundred dollars cash back. STENTHEN VIMOT ME Slash terms, Id verification required of VMO ballots . All right everybody, welcome back into the rap party and we're at the section of the show . My favorite part of the show where I'm joined by JB JB himself . JB and the famous language is Jake Brown and the famous layer. I'll be covering James Brown today ladies and gentlemen . My people are applying the cape as we speak and they're propping me up onto the stage. I just I gave it my all before I got in here. Hardest work of man is an actor are you actually like are you actually out of breath and and you need someone to help you up? Is that just is that just for show? I'm fucking toast. I need all the drugs. I need all the assistance . Speaking of drugs and assistance, you're talking stars born this week, right? I am so Judy Garland is our subject, but in the screening room I'm doing not her version of a Starsborn, I'm doing the Bradley Cooper Lady Gaga version, which I don't know, we've never talked about this movie before. So I was thinking, you know, his version of Astars Born is like a cover of the original well, there's been numerous covers of that. Yeah, this is the third or the fourth cover of Astar's Born. It's the third, right? It's the no it's, the fourth. It covers the Chris Christopherson Barbara Streisand one, which covers the Judy Girlen one, which I believe is the second one. I could be wrong . I think you're right. I think there's a much earlier one, yeah. Yeah, dude, speaking of early movies , just real quick , I had criteria on yesterday. I talked about this all the time so I'm just like play, right? Yeah. And this movie comes on. It's a silent movie. It looks and sounds unbelievable How does it sound unbelievable if it's a silent movie? Music. Okay. Okay . And it has a black guy in the lead . Okay , right. So I'm like, this isn't from nineteen twenty five. It can't be a silent movie, right? I shit, it is. What movie is it ? Night and day . Black filmmaker nineteen twenty five. Really? Yeah. No shit. Yeah, incredible. Incredible. I can't wait to watch the whole thing. Yeah, check it out. Check it out. All right. I'm not covering that anytime soon. This cover thing is tough, man. It's tough this question. Yeah, I want so I want your recommendations for best cover songs , three or just three, three great recommendations for cover songs. And then I'll give you three for movies. This is tough, but the audience loves it. And I love I love the movie thing. I'm more excited about where you're brought to bring to the table here than what I get. So listen , I was writing about again Sonic Youth this morning . So I just I have this song in my head and it's new to me. I mean, I knew it when it came out. I knew when it came out. It's the Sonic Youth Cover of Carpenter's Superstar. Oh right. Wasn't that on a Carpenter's tribute record or something? Yes, it was . Yeah, I'm a carpenter or a carpenter, whatever it was. Yes. Exactly. I'm sure you can list off all the bands that were on it because that was your wheelhouse back then. Was it like REM and I don't I don't remember actually I probably thought the carpenters were so even though bands that I liked were covering them, probably the time I was like, fuck the carpenters I'm not listening to this. My thoughts, exactly. And I was too young to care about the carpenters or the house sills or anything that's I didn't understand, but of course Kim Gordon appreciation for Karen Carpenter, you know, part because of her age and her upbringing and what she was listening to during her formative years. But that sonic youth version of that song is undeniably cool and fucking creepy and I realized the song is very a star was born. It's written it's not written by Karen Carpenter. It's written by Donnie Bonnie and Delaney. What's her name? Bonnie Bremel. Oh , yes. Okay , right. She wrote it. And I think Rita Coolidge had something to do with this as well 'cause that was that whole scene. Rita Coolidge famously wrote the part in Layla that Eric Clapton stole from Rita Coolidge's boyfriend, Jim Gordon, who still stole it from Rita Coolidge . The piano part, the famous part. Yes, yeah. So but Rider Coolish had something to do with this superstar, the Karen, the Carpenter's version of it. So my favorite cover songs, just to give us give myself some criteria here, are the ones that are interpretations that aren't just like recreations . And I really like it when an artist, when you hear a cover song, it's really hard to do. It's really easy to just ape a song. And then it's also really easy to just like, I'm going to do this song like me, but then it's a whole other level to go into that pop music interpreter phase , which was a whole thing back when pop music really started to explode in the nineteen thirties or whatever. You know what I mean? Like it was they were interpreting everybody had their own take on these songs. Singers didn't write their songs. They were interpreting the same songs differently. That's why people bought them. They wanted to hear their interpretations. So the Sonic youth interpretation is purely Sonic youth, but it's got sonic use in this style that they would never be in. And they interpret it in a way where the original is kind of about this this couple where like one is in the ascent and the other is still kind of stuck starvous born . You know what I mean? Yeah . And there's a lot. You come with the levels of the onion layers here, brother . There's a lot there's a lot. I'm going to wait for four minutes . There's a line that says that Karen Carpenter says, I forget the lyric exactly, but the line is I want you to come, like come back and play your sag guitar That's how the line kind of finishes. Sort of I'm paraphrasing. And when she says it, it sounds like she's sad and she misses her guy. When Thurston Moore says it, it sounds dirty and gross and you're like, oh , you know what I mean? Especially now what we know about there is some more . I want to I'm gonna say this is wrong. I'm very I'm very hesitant to be to throw things out here after the blur embarrassment we had on the mic the other day , which we won't mention ever again . But there's like one piano chord in this song and it's so dark and heavy in the Sonic Youth version. And I could totally it's a type of thing. I love it because it's the type of thing where I've been in these situations before where the engineer would be like, you can't have it that loud or the mix engineer. You can't you can't do that. You can't do that . And they're like, No, fuck you, we are doing that. Yeah. And it is so it's the oasis thing you were talking about where everything's mastered in the room . Just great. So that's my first one. Song is covered with the Carpenters. My second one , I don't know this is the best version of this song . Please don't let me be misunderstood . Which I think the most famous version of that song is the Nina Simone version of that song. She didn't write it song write it somewhere. I write it. I would argue it's the animals, but yes, I would say that too, but I love Nina Simone's version. I think I heard the animals first as a kid and that was my first knew that song Yeah. Yep, me as well. But I'm wondering if that's if that's our perspective because we were hip to the animals before we were Nina Simone. Could be. Then again, I probably inflate Nina Simone 's popularity based on my perspective as well. So who knows? Yeah. Yeah. But those are the two popular versions of the song, right? Am I missing one? Did anyone have like a big hit with that song I don't think so. The third one you're going m toention is really the only the big three that I know. It's Celvis Costello version from I don't know, man, it depends on what day it is. I could say it's his greatest record King of America. I could, you know, and that's some days it is, yeah. Yeah, some days it is. I think on the cover, I think they hype up the I think there's a hype sticker on the original album cover. I think for that song for that single Yeah . Now for those of you guys who don't know King of America, it's not like a super popular Elvis Costella record. People are going to think about this year's model and my aim is true . Is there a Sega Sticker there? So it says includes Elvis' version of the animals classic Don't let me be misunderstood. Wow, okay, look at . Look at that. Look at the Tower Record sticker there, baby. Hey , the Elvis Costello thing on the left there, the white thing, hold that up again. Yeah. So this is crazy. I wrote about this at work. Is that a sticker? Yeah, it's a sticker . I was gonna say 'cause I have different artwork than that. That's the only place if sticker was gone, it would not say Elvis anywhere. Well, okay on the spine it says the Costello Show featuring Elvis Costello. But then the rest of the record it just says the Costello Show and he's credited as little Hans of concrete maybe on this one. LHC or Decklin had a real thing with his real thing with his identity. What does it say about Decklin? It's also it says produced by J. Henry Tone B Burnett and Decklan Patrick Aloisius McManus. Yeah. Patrick Aloishius Aloishus . Yeah, I wrote a whole I wrote a whole article or column or something once about his identities and stuff yeah. And a big thing, the Costello Show, the Courage Brother. You know what I mean? Like he loves it. It's great. Anyways, the Napoleon Dynamite, that's him. His comes from him. Really? Yeah, in blood and chocolate, he's credited as Napoleon Dynamite. No shit. Wait till I tell my oldest that he's gonna die. Thank you for that. Yeah . I don't know that there's a track where his voice sounds better than singing that song, which sucks to say 'cause it's not an Elvis Costello original. What's going on with that take? Like what did he do to it? Like his voice sounds so it's so evocative. It's the combination of the perfect key for him with that song and the perfect effort that he's put ting into it and the perfect production , the sound of it. And this is famously the tee the massive Elvis Costello Tebrone Brunette combination with guys from Elvis Presley's band playing on the on this as well. It's just an incredible record and it's not like him again like with you know the guys from Elvis's crew he's not like trying to be Elvis but it's a very roots thing but it's a like we were talking about the other day it',s they're reimagining sort of rootsy stuff in the modern era and it sounds totally new and just amazing. So that's my second one. Don't let me be misunderstood by Elvis Costelle. And I think we have our answer because they reference the animals and not see Nina Simone when they're trying to sell it. Right. So right. Well, they're also probably trying to sell it to white audiences too, but yeah, sure . Okay , so the third one, you're going to hate the third one. Great , and that's why I chose it. Great, Brian Johnson's career because it's a Bon Scott cover . No, I'm kidding. I love Brian Johnson. Everybody knows I just have to you don't like Bon Scott. So my God . My third one is not Brian Johnson covering Bon Scott, but you are still gonna hate it. Okay, and everyone's gonna hate it. And I don't care because I think it's great. It's the song that shall never be covered shan't cover the song, young buck. It's Ryan Adams doing Wonder Wall . Oh, all right. Thoughts. I don't hate that. I don't hate that. What is that on Love Is Hell? Love is Hell yeah yeah yeah part one or six I can't remember I remember when that came out and I remember thinking like really he's doing this song but it kind of grew on me after a while and I think I prefer listening to that over the Oasis version now. Oh yeah, I just 'cause the Oasis version is so overplayed. It's so overplayed and this is this to what we're talking about is a complete interpretation . It's like it has very little to do with the original . Yeah . It sounds completely like him. His voice is completely his own. You know what it know what it is man? I don't like I was thinking this is his like Graham Parsons Wild Horses moment . Yeah . I don't like that version of wild horses . I don't what the Graham version. Gram. Oh, Graham's version . Yeah, I mean, you can see why I don't know. I mean, the Stones made the right decision to put it out. Weren't they gonna just give it to him at first? I don't I think so that sounds right. I like the towns vanzinette version. Yeah . Yeah . I feel like I'm mixing a bunch of shit my up head in right now. No, you're thinking of dead flowers, towns flowers. Yes, yeah. Yes. What did it just be wild horses? This is phenomenal . Yeah . Yeah, dead flowers is the Stove's version's the best version, the Townsvan's version, but this is and then the grand version I don't love, but this I feel like was his Graham Parsons dead flowers moment where he's trying to sort of like get I felt like he was trying to get close to Oasis and their shine, you know what I mean? No. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because he did that with the strokes. I mean, that was famously . Yeah. Well, that kind of became his thing too because he covered a Taylor Swift record too and yeah, not his thing, but like he's kind of become an interpreter of other stuff as well. Right. Which is kind of fascinating because he's so like his identity was so wrapped up in like his own stuff. Like you know what I mean? He was a singer songwriter. I think that's still his identity. Yeah, more than the covers guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he has a whole other infamous identity now too. We're not gonna go into that So those are mine. I can't wait to hear yours. What do you got? All right, movies , cover movies. All right, let's see. All right, first of all, I just re watched this again for the second time ever . The first time I saw it was I don't know, probably six months ago, maybe about a year ago. William Frikin's sorcerer from nineteen seventy seven. Have you seen this ? No. Okay , so this is kind of been having a moment. Like it's kind of come back in the conversation . I forget if Tarantino wrote about it in his book , but there's a new criterion version that came out, which looks incredible. This is the movie that Friedkin made after he made he made the French connection, he made the Exorcist. By the way, this movie is it's a remake of a French film from the fifties called The Wages of Fear , which is which on its own is also like a classic film. But and Friedkin always bristled calling this movie a remake. He was he thought it was like a reimagining or whatever. It's a very different movie than the other movie . But this movie bombed and I mean, you know, it was the year of Star Wars and this movie is super dark. It has basically the second half of this film is these guys , all these criminals from different parts of the world that have come to this place in South America to just kind of hide out and they've all been hired to go into the jungle , get this like dynamite that's or whatever explosives that's been sitting in the jungle for years. So it's all been like leaking all the explosive shit out of it. They got to carry it back in these in these trucks and they have to be really careful if they jostle it too much, the dynamite's going to explode. And they have to bring it back to this village because there's an oil well that's burning and they need to use it to stop the oil burn. So basically the second half of this movie is just them , this like nail biting trip through the jungle over this rickety bridge to transport this stuff back. Roy Scheider's in it . He's the star. It has a score by Tangerine Dream . It is so good. It's one of these movies you watch and you're like, why have people not been talking about this movie for the last fifty years? It is so good. It's as good those other two movies I mentioned. It's almost like , you know, if the French connection and the exorcist are like, you know, check your head and ill communication, like this is like sorcerers like hello nasty. You know, like at the time , I was like, Oh, hello andy N.est I don't know. And then like years later you're like shit is Hellen Nasty their best record it might be you know Wow, okay. I love this movie. Whenever you can get a chance to see this dude, you got to see this movie. It's great, it's great. All right, I will, than youk. Love this wreck . Next one here, I love the Cohen Brothers True Grit remake from twenty ten. Never seen that one either. Damn. It's a remake of the old John Wayne movie from the sixties starring Jeff Brid ges, a very young Haley Steinfelds in it, Matt Damon, Josh Brolin . This one is completely off my radar. Oh my god off my I feel like it doesn't get enough love because it's a it's a remake of an old er movie, a famous older movie , but it's so good. And they really tried. It's based on this incredible novel by Charles Portus. I don't know if you've read this book. It's just very short book. I rank this up there with like the Fsriend of Eddie Coyle , like a very short book that's like written in such a distinct style. The book's basically written from the point of view of this young girl who's on this journey . But their movie kind of adheres closer to the novel to the text than the John Wayne movie did. It's I mean, it's awesome. You know, Jeff Fridge is in the Cohens universe. His iconic performance, of course, is Labowski, but he is so good as this like crotchety gun slinger slash tracker for hire or whatever. Yeah , I mean, the Cohens are just so good at this kind of thing. Like this like western quirk y though. Is it like one brother? Yes, it's it's quirky, but it's not like it's pitched somewhere between Fargo and it's not as dark as no country. It's not as unrelenting as no country, but it's right, but it's not as like goofy as like raising Arizona. You know what I mean? Yeah, or a brother. Yeah. Cannot wait to watch it. I love, love that movie. And then the last one I'm going to recommend here is I don't know if this has ever been done before. In nineteen fifty six, Alfred Hitchcock remade his own movie. He remade The Man Who New Too Much, which was an old movie from the thirties that he had made back in the UK when he was making movies there. Yeah. He remade it in the fifties with Jimmy Stewart and Doris Day. This is where Kesar Rossara comes from the song . Just a wicked fun hitchcock suspense movie. I love I love these kinds of movies where in this case it's an American, you know, American family in a different country, but I love the whole like fish out of water mystery where you're like in a different country and you don't know the custom and you don't know the language and like some dude like dies in front of you and suddenly like you've got blowing your hands and it's like what, you, know, ye yeahah, . Don't you hate that idea? It happens often . That's a great one. I love it. I don't know , I didn't know it was a remake. When you said that, I was like, I just thought, Oh, what an egotistical maniacal d irector thing to do to remake your own movie. But then given the context, the technology had changed so much. He was probably championing it like his own version of it and do it well. I think he had some quote about it where he said the original was made by some novice and the remake was made by like a professional who knew what he was doing or something like that. You know? Yeah. Yeah, I get that. It's Alfred's version instead offred El's version . I'm gonna do Jake's version . I'm gonna fucking do a Tom Petty episode man. Another one. Another one. Yeah, let's do it. Anyhow , can I recommend something real quick? Yeah, sure. It has nothing to do with covers, but it's a good movie that I'm in the middle of watching and it occurred to me that you've probably seen this. Have you ever seen the drop? No. You will dig it. You will absolutely dig it. James Gandalfini and who's my guy there? Please Bain. Oh, hardy . Tom Hardy? Tom Hardy. I want to say Tom Holland. Tom Hardy. Totally Holland is Spider Man . Yes. And his non alcoholic beer is not good. Just saying unless they want to sponsor us, then I love it.