Thematic Mixtape and Final Thoughts

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And I'd like to welcome you to another installment of a little thing we like to call the screening Room. This is our weekly episode of the podcast in which I take you on a deep dive into one movie that connects with our subject this week. This week, our subject was Bob Crane, someone who was a bit lost to history, honestly. His big claim to fame was playing the titular character of the old late nineteen sixties sitcom, Hogan's Heroes And before that, he was known around Los Angeles as a radio DJ But it was only later after his death, after his murder The true nature of Bob Crane was exposed He had been living a life full of dark secrets and fantasies that he captured on video tape All of this you can hear in our fully scripted episode from earlier this week, so I'm not going to waste too much time here with that today But this is all to say On the one hand, the obvious film to cover here this week would be Autofocus, the two thousand two film about Bob Crane's Dark past that stars Greg Kineer But that film was directed by Paul Schrader and we just featured Paul Srader film here in the screening room Blue collar just a few weeks ago honestly Where my mind went immediately when I thought about Bob Crane and especially the title of our episode on Bob Crane, which I believe is sex, lies, videotape and murder My mind immediately went to the film Sex, lies and Vototape. I mean, come on, it's right there in the title We've invoked this film before here in Hollywood Land This is, of course, the nineteen eighty nine debut film by Stehven Soderberg. who would go on to become one of the most prolific and important film directors of the twenty first century And who even at this point seems to be this Sge, you know, this cinematic sage sitting all enlightened style at the top of a mountain somewhere. As recently as a few years back David Fincher insinuated that he sent Sodderberg an early cut of his latest film The Killer because he needed some guidance and Soderberg just kind of low key recut the movie for him because That's what Soberg does. He's become known as a very Efficient filmmaker, a guy who can juggle multiple projects at once and get things made quickly and cheaply but does so while not making anything look cheap or look like it was quickly made which is the mark of a true artist who just wants to create and just wants to continue to push medium forward. He shoots a lot of his own movies himself. He's a cinematographer, he's his own editor. h But back in nineteen eighty nine Stehven Soderberg was nobody. He'd worked some odd jobs on the sets of TV shows holding cue cards for the host He'd managed to direct a concert film For yes No shit. He made a concert film for Yes. their nineteen eighty five film nine z one two live. documented their nineteen eighty four tour of their album nine zo two one five, sorry, ninezo one, two five All this I'm getting TV shows confused with my classic rock records here.'s It's tragedy. That's the record with Oer of a Lonely Heart. I think probably Yes's biggest hit. I'm going to go out and a limb and say And although Soderberg and the band were nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Music videoideo Lawn form Soderberg remained an unknown in Hollywood at the time No I do believe it's true that he wrote the script for sex lies and videotape on a legal pad. in just eight days while on aross country road trip People are quick to point out when mentioning this fact that He'd been noodling on the movie for a lot longer than that. By the time he put pen to paper, he'd probably had all the characters down and he had the arc of the story in place And though he's alluded to this being semiutobiographical before He once made this statement about the film quote Nothing in the movie actually happened But I was riffing off a relationship that I destroyed. Dishonesty and deception, unquote later adding that he basically cut himself up into four different characters with each character having some trait that he possessed, and that's how the story began He was about twenty six years old. He famously shot the film for one point two million dollars He shot it on location in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. for thirty days because that's as many days as his budget would allow. And earlier, I talked about how efficient and economic he is now He's commented recently he can't believe he made this film in thirty days. that if he made this today, he would have made it in ten days. That's how much that's more efficiently he works now And he took a lot of risks on this film. He took a risk on Andy McDowell A model whose previous film to this, Greay Stroke, The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes infamous because The filmmakers had actually replaced her voice with the voice of Glenn Close in post production The reason being not only her strong southern accent, but that she had never really acted before and her line deliveries weren't strong or so the story goes Soderberg also took a chance on other up and coming actors like Peter Gallagher Laurisan Giacomo And also James Spader who had small roles in Prety and Pink, mannequin, and Baby Boom at this time, but never anything that demanded this much from him And it was hard to get some of these actors to agree to be in this Laura Sanio Como for one She needed to be reassured that she would not be obligated to get nude in the film since the very title seem to suggest that In fact, Soderberg had written the part of Anne for Elizabeth McGovern, the actress who was in, She's having a baby once upon a time in America But McGovern's own agent refused to even show the actress the script because everyone just assumed that this was some sort of curvy porn adjacent thing I know that I had that sense as a kid when this came out. I remember Reading about this, probably in Premiere magazine, in nineteen eighty nine, reading the title seeing the promotional poster, an all timer poster, by the way, the series of horizontal images separated by black bars, you see Peter Gallagh's eyes and then you see James Spader and Ay McDowell's lips and then there's a shot of Gallgher from behind with his fancy work clothes and a suspendnder standing in front of a flickering blue fuzz on the TV screen The poster alone was incredibly evocative and it made eleven twelve year old me feel very uncomfortable because it seemed so adult. And I don't even mean sexy. It did not look sexy to me. it looked adult It seemed illicit and unspeakable and just off limits to me. And for that reason, I kept this film at a distance for a very long time. Even as Soderberg became one of my favorite filmmakers, I didn't see this movie for quite a while So anyways, Soderberg makes this movie, right? He brings it to The Sundance Film Festival in January of nineteen eighty nine, this is when Sundance was still known as the US. Film Festival, but okay. The screening happens in a small room The audience is literally sitting there on these like folding chairs that have been arranged by volunteers or whatever You know, my point here is that this isn't some huge theater and huge audience. It's still a very, very small thing, even in the context of this film festival Soderberg is there. He gives a little introduction and he tells the R listen, if you want to talk about distributing this film You know, I'm here, I'm around just come find me after the screening Famously, Mirramax films. winds up acquiring sex lies and videotape just a few months later. in April for one point one million dollars, which is funny because Basically to Sodderberg paying his debts back for making this film And then just one month after that at the Cann Film Festival It wins the Palm Door, the festival's major award making Stehven Sodderberg the youngest to ever do so Eventually, he'll get an Oscar nomination for best screenplay and then he'll return to Sundance the following year only this time to serve. on the festival jury. The Sex lies and videootape went on to do something like thirty six million dollars internationally, which was huge. This small, intimate, independent film about people and relationships and about needs and wants and above all else deception had resonated with audiences and made thirty six times its meager budget. This was a watershed moment. this is after a decade in which the studios have been calling the shots, you know The nineteen eighties were tough for filmmakers because the freedom that had been granted in the seventies had been taken away at the end of that decade when it seemed, you know in the eyes of those who made the money and who guarded the money, that too many risks were being taken. you know, Heaven's gate and all that byy nineteen eighty nine, thanks to sex lies and videootape studio execs were starting to see the light again, starting to realize that there was money to be made in independent cinema. the audiences would go to these movies And thus we get this bounty of independent films that follow directly sex lies and videotapes, footsteps But then the strangest thing happened Sodderberg stumbled. right after this commercially that is The five movies that followed We're all very small. They were all very different And many were downright experimental There was Kafka with Jeremy Irons, which Apropo of its title was very Kafka esque and very strange There was King of the Hill, which was critically acclaimed. too dark for some audiences There was the underneath, which was an underseen noir There was Schisopolis, which was this non linear experimental comedy with Soerberg starring And then there was Gry's anatomy, which was a drramatized monologue by the great monologist Spalden Greay. It wasn't until almost a decade later nineteen eighty eight and out of sight George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez that Soderberg corrected these so called commercial missteps. finding that sweet spot halfway between commomercially viable and creatively exhilarating Then came Aon Brokovich and traffic in Oceans eleven But you know, in between the big hits, he still satisfies the experimental, you know, insatiable creative That's at the heart of what he does So for every contagion or magic mic that he makes There's also something like the informant Pence This film. ex lies in videootape is a film about couples in trouble It's a movie about bad marriage An old friend It's about secrets about confessions recorded on videotape in private And we're going to get into it. right after this Gys, I love how this film opens The highway is racing by. All we see is asphalt. We're going fast Then we see James Spader driving in a convertible tops down. This is all happening while an acoustic guitar plays fast on the soundtrack. And then we hear Annie McDowell's voice talking about garbage about how all she's been thinking about all week is garbage. She's talking about this while James Bader slows down the car, pulls into a roadside garage, and goes into the bathroom to shave and change his clothes. Annie McDowell's not there with him. We just hear her. Eventually, we cut to Annie McDowell who is elsewhere in a room talalking with her therapist And right up top We get this disorienting introduction of these characters who could not be more different. The class difference here, especially she's very uptight and sheltered while he is wild and free And I guess I was guessing as to what these two people have to do with each other and why we're being introduced to them in this way. Now I have a theory. I think this is Soerberg working with his limitations. He has a very small budget He has a short amount of time in which to shoot And while he could have told his story in a straight style, which is to say You know, show Annie McDowell's character in therapy, establish who she is And then someone mentions that the Jamus Spader character is on his way. and then we cut to him By the time she mentions that her husband's old college friend is coming to visit We've already seen this guy It's a deliberate visual language meant to get your brain working upfont meant to distinguish this film from just any other film. which is the kind of thing that made this movie stand out when people first saw it at Sundancec and Why it went so against the grain of your typical Hollywood film cira, nineteen eighty nine But I'm getting ahead of myself here. What is sex lies and videootape about A about a yuppy couple is a lawyer, John played by Peter Gallgher and his wife, Anne playayed by Anny MDowell, AKA, Margaret CQwley's mom They don't really have sex. Anne says that she's not all that interested in sex. She tells her therapist this and they aren't very happy An even tells her shrink that she thinks being happy is overrated because the last time I was happy, I got so fat. Th are her words. Meanwhile John is having an affair with Anne's sister Cynthia playayed by Laura San Gioomo Cynthia is the opposite of Anne in many ways, but for John's purposes The opposite that he's attracted to is that she is sexually voracious And into this dynamic comes this guy named Graham, played by James Spader with his flowing Glden go beach blonde locks at the time guy driving that car at the beginning He's an old college friend of John's who is moving town. And he plans to crash at John and An' for a bit until he can find his own place Anne is not thrilled about this. She tells her therapist that John didn't even ask her if it was okay for Graham to come and stay. And while she doesn't mind, she just thought it would have been nice had he asked. Again, these two are not happy They're not communicating There is something strange and mysterious. Graham you know, you you look at him and you just the way the way he talks the way he looks people you can just tell. And meanwhile, you know, John is an open book. He's like this alpha mle type kind of douchey. veryer douchey actually It's obvious from the jump that he and Graham aren't as close as they used to be if they were ever that close at all And since Anne doesn't really work She agrees to take Graam out apartment hunting while John is at work or busy sleeping with her sister. So while they're out, they go for lunch for drinks or whatever. and slowly as you can see she's warming up to Graham. She's sort of getting over this being annoyed that he's there to visit and is actually enjoying his company. I think maybe because He's just not John, you know, mayaybe he's more mysterious than John or that he's actually paying attention to her and all that But they start to have some very intimate conversations. And at some point, Anne tells Graham that she thinks that sex is overrated And then Graham confides in Anne that he is impotent or more accurately, as he puts it He is impotent in the presence of other people Later we see Graham hanging out at his new apartment And he's watching these videotapes on his TV set He has all these small video cassettes and in a can porer And he's shot from the waist up, but you can tell that he's that he's nude sitting on this chair watching it. He's not really doing anything, but he's just watching and you can hear his voice on the tape asking these questions and then you can hear a woman describing So answering his question, which is to describe the most unusual place that she's ever masturbated. Th there's a knock on the door It's Anne visiting. Graham gets up, you know This character is so fascinating because he's not like, oh my God, he doesn't like fly out from the chair and like hold on, hold on a second and get himself dressed and everything. He just tells her to come in. he casually like drapes this blanket around his body and he walks into the other room just as she's walking into the apartment, you know, kind of just missing her and he's casually getting dressed off camera. while she's kind of starting to come in and look around the apartment. And it just tells you so much about this character, this sort of like just how sort of like loose and free and laissez fair he is, I guess When An comes in She can't help but notice all these videotapes that are laid out there on the table. They're in this like carrying case and the spines all have women's names written on them and dates. So she asked him like, what are these? And he says it's a personal project he's been working on. she presses him on it. What kind of project is this And finally, he reveals that there are interviews with women about sex Anne cannot get out of the apartment fast enough. She is so uptight. so repressed, so put together that this is hitting her like some Fast and loose, weird kinky shit, right guy who says he's impotent around other people who records conversations with women in which they reveal their deepest and darkest sexual secrets and fantasies, and that's how he gets off like she can't believe this And sister, Cynthia on the other hand catches wind of this whole thing and she can't help herself. She wants in So she invites herself over to Graham's place. She gets him to interview her and can't believe it, and is shocked, right? But soon Anne finds one of her sister's earrings in her house while she's vacuuming. She puts two and two together She figures out that John is sleeping with Cynthia And feeling betrayed and hurt and distraught, she heads over to Graham's place where she tells him she wants him to film her She wants to make a tape. She wants to feel something else. She wants to know if she can feel something else Maybe it's been John all on. It's been the problem, not her All right, do you know where this is going? Do you know where the characters are heading? There's something so simple about this story. Four characters. eachach character wants something Two of them don't realize until the third act how they're gonna to get what they want And the other two are going to end up no longer getting what they've been getting the whole time. And in a way, how we feel about some of these people changes by the end. you know, James Spader is so good at playing the skis that It's easy to assume that's his deal, but there's more depth here. The Mre Sis It is a movie that is wise beyond twenty six years of its creator It's a movie that makes me want to make a mix tape. We're gonna do that right after this break. Hang tight All right, gang, it's time to make a hypothetical theoretical, metaphorical, potentially possible mix tape inspired by the nineteen eighty nine film Sex lies and Votape. Are you ready Are you set Let's go. song number one lies by the Kickerbockers This is from nineteen sixty five This sounds like the best Beatles song the Beatles never made, all right These guys were named after Knickerbocker Avenue in Bergenfield, New Jersey, where they came from. This song was cut out in West Hollywood. I first heard this On the great, the indispensable Nuggets compilation, Nuggets original artifacts from the first psychedelic era nineteen sixty five to nineteen sixty eight If you don't have this collection, youd need it You can buy a physical copy or it's streaming everywhere. It's one of the greatest collections of seminal Psychedelic rock, garage rock put together by Lenny K who famously would go on to play guitar with a Patty Smith band and this compilation is just it's an all timer. And Look Sure. The lies by the Knickerbockers sounds like the Beatles, circa. It won't be long or any time at all, right? Beatles, this is my hot take. The Beatles never rocked this hard This is edgier than the Beetles. Can you imagine if the Beatles had gone as hard as the Knickerbarkers go on lies in the studio with like I said, it won't be Lawn. It won't be Lawn is already, it's breathless and it's super exhilarating But if it had that the extra that Les has by the Kickerbockers man, I mean, holy shit, we'd be in the stratosphere. All right Choosing the song for obvious reasons, lies We're going to stay on the lies theme here for our next song a song called Little Ees by Flute and Mac. fromr nineteen eighty seven from their album Tango in the Night. This record was everywhere in nineteen eighty seven. My family, we used to drive up the coast on some weekends as a family together. and when when you know my brother didn't have a hockey game or when I didn't have a play that I was performing in back when I was younger. And we'd swing by the beach or whatever, but we'd always hit up these flea markets on the way. There are all these flea markets that used to be on route one in Maine, there still are some their're kind of shellves of their former selves. I had this funny interaction with my dad once where I was like, you know, I took my kids out to all these flea markets when they were little. and I said I was talking to my dad. I said, Dad, flea markets, they're all like they're dumps now. like my go, they're just like trash, you know? And my dad was like, Zeth, they were always dumps. You just didn't realize it as a kid. But anyways, we'd hit these places up for like, you know, our brother and I would have like our allowance or actually no, we would have the money that we would collect. My brother and I used to we grew up in a college town so we would go around on Saturday and Sunday mornings and we would collect returnables because all the college kids would just stick their empty beer bottles out on the side of the road in a bag and we would just like get them all and we'd take them back to the returnable place, we'd get cash and then we'd have that cash to my brother would save his money, but I would spend my money. So I would spend it on comics, spending on cassette tapes I just remember on these road trips listening to The American topop forty countdown with Casey Kaseom And I feel like this summer, the summer of eighty seven or maybe it was eighty eight. I don't know when the single came out. The Little lies was everywhere. Like I heard it all the time, like on the hour, every hour I used to hate this song. I used to hate this era of Fleetwood Mac so much. I thought it was too polished, had too much sheen, which is ironic because you know, Fleetwood Mac is all about the polish Now I love it unironically too Little Les by Fleetwood Mac All right, the next s Thinking about the character of Anne, thinking that sex is overrated, I'm going to choose the song called Tired of Sex by Wezer from their sophomore album Pinkerton. nineteen ninety six, I still remember buying this at the time and going, what the fuck is this U Wezer had shed the Dorky thing They'd gone full emo years before we even knew what the hell emo was And here was Rivers. saying the most unrockstar thing ever. I'm tired of sex was like, what am I listening to I did like Els Scorcho. I did like the goodood life Tired of sex and Get you, I think. I like those tracks too, but I gott to make a confession which is that always wanted to love this album as much as the Pinkerton Stans do But for me, it's always going to be the blue album. that's always my favorite Weeezer album. Sorry y'all. I just you know That's just where I stand Tired of sex by Wezer. All right, next track here on our mix tape is u a song called I W Your Sex We're getting the duality of the sex thing here guys. okay? We're getting the I don't want sex. Now I want sex, okay? Be it's just, you know, we're all human beings, you know? Sometimes yes, sometimes no, I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about. Never mind. I want your sex, George Michael from his huge, huge record faith. also same year as Tango on the Night, nineteen eighty seven. But listen, here's the caveat. You got to have parts one and two, okay I want your sex parts one and two, not the single version Parts one and two is basically it's the long version. It's over nine minutes long. It's on the album don't know this version It's the best version. It has this wicked funky horn breakdown section slash New York dance section that happens. I think it's the part two of the thing. The part one is like the singal that you know then part two is like this instrumental heavy instrumental kind of groove jam thing. And if you were around when this came out, if you were like Gen X like me and you were younger, you know, I was I was ten when the song came out. This song was so fucking controversial, like my mother would not let me listen to this song. That's how controversial this was. And God forbid, I got caught watching this or the faith video with him shaking his ass on TV. It was like Elvis Presley all over again But honestly at the time I Kind of thought it was like a jokke song. Like I thought I was dumb, like my dingling or something. So I didn't really care to listen to it. But now that I'm older, you know, this is the thing. You throw on that nine minute version and you're just like, fuck It's an instant dance party. It's just the best. George Michael rules. all right? I want your sex George Micha nineteen eighty seven I was thinking about Any McDowell, how the first thing we hear in this movie is she's obsessed with trash and worried about trash. And I thought of the New York dolls song titled Trash from their self titled nineteen seventy three debut. produced by Todd Runrund who probably did not get along with them just like he didn't get along with band or XTC or anybody else that He's produced. I'm pretty sure that's the case. If there's anyone out there who' been produced by Todd Rungin and you guys got along, let us know This song is sung by the somewhat recently darily departed David Johansson, RIP. This kicks off side B of this. incredible record. This needs to be filed under most auspicious debut albums of all time. I mean, it's just one of the best debut albums of all time. And it's just more proof that this early punk shit this glam shit, this mold breakaking from another planet shit It's really just this old girl group and doWop music revitalized for a new set of ears, right? That's all it is You know, David Johansson's got his braty thing Braty vocal thing going on, but Leslie Gore could be Bratty too. you know, and this goes all the way up through like B fifty twoos and everything. it's just it's breaking the mold, but you know, it's history repeating too, baby Trash by the New York dolls Get this in your mix, right Next on on our mix tape. is a track called Bust to Baton Rouge This film takes place in Baton Rouge. It was shot in Baton Rouge So I got Baton Rouge in the brain Bust to Baton Rouge by Lucinda Williams from her two thousand one record Esessence this is a ballad This record's a follow up to car wheels on a gravel road, which I think of as her breakthrough, but I think she had some big hits before that like like passionate kisses us before that And u, What was that son it I just wanted to see you so bad. Is that wasas that a hit? That's one of my favorite Listen to William song sounds so good. But the car wheels and the Gravel Road record was sort of like I think maybe was the breakthrough because it sort of resonated with the For lack of a better term, the alt countountry seen at the time, you know, like Uncle Tupolo Whiskey town Sunbolt, Richard Buckner, all that stuff, right So Car Whheels was kind of like a big record for that sort of scene. And I remember thinking when Essence came out, and this is the follow up. So it's like what three or four years later It was sort of heavily anticipated I found Essence to be like a lot more slick than that previous record and I kind of rejected it for that But again, you know, time is the healer, just like with I want your sex and little lies come around to it and I love love I love the sound of this record. The guitars are so rich. drums are subtle. The harmonies on this chorus are just heavenly stuff, like Lucina's voices is is amazing. So Bust of Baton Rouge, by list annoyiums And the next song I'm going to throw on here is totally obvious, just like, you know, lies by the Knickerbockers was obvious. and I wantant Your sex by George Michael was obvious. I'm sorry. this is just this is sort of like a du playlist here today. but I'm going to include videootape By radiohead from their two thousand seven album in Rainbows This is the piano ballad that ends that album. Originally this was supposed to be some hard drive and track, I believe like a a faster like dance oriented kind of thing and then they were going to make a big like rocker out of it before they stripped it all down and it's just Piano and Tom York I think, right? That's it Maybe there's like some like Googly, giggly electronics going on bubbling in the background somewhere. This is a song, another one that took a while to hit me. I love it now. I love, love, love it. But you know, I remember when in raainbows came out. that whole pay what you want thing on their website No record label remember was like, what the hell iss going on? You can pay what you want for the new radiohead and you download it And that crazy business model ended up making them like the most money they'd ever made in a record ever just goes to show, right I loveved the album when it came out, but I was just I was m on videotape because it was slow. It didn't have guitars. I was like, getet the fuck out of here with your melancholy, shite Tom York, but You know, I can be Mail and Cie too, you know, I can go to that place. that raw wounded place that Tommy York goes to. So it's grown on me and I love it. Votape by Radiohead So there you go, lies by the Knickerbockers, littleittle lies by Fleetwood Mac Tired of sex by Wezer. I want your sex parts one and two by George Michael, Trash by New York Dolls, Bust of Baton Rouge by Lucid N Williams and videootape by Radiohead. some songs to get this hypothetical, theoretical, metaphorically, potentially possible mix tape started Let me know if you've got any adduditions for this one, Maybe a song about a bad marriage, a song about an affair Maybe even a song about an impotent dude who gets off videotaping women as they make their most secret sexual confessions. Get at me on the telephone Call or text six one seven, nine zero six, six, six three eight. You can also email me disisgrrace the Apod at Gmail. com And while you're doing that pause real quick, but stay put I'm going to be right back My Hollywood Land Peps. I hope you dug that deep dive into sex lies and videotape. Have you guys seen this before? Are you a fan of late eighties, early nineties independent cinema? Are you a Sodaberg fan Where do you place this in your Soderberg rankings? What are my top ten Sodderberg films you ask? Why? I thought you'd never ask? But I'm prepared. I'm like one of those people who wins an Oscar award and I'm like, I didn't think I was going to win, but I do have a speech prepared. So here's my list in reverse order for my favorite Steven Soderberg films as of three twenty PM Eastern time on Tuesday, june thirtieth. okay? Number ten, sex lies and videotape. Number nine Contagion Number eight No sudden move with Benicio de Toro who's in a number of Sodaberg movies. so good in this one Number seven, the Lime Number six, Eron Brokovich Number five, I'm going to cheat here and do black bag and presents together because they both came out in the same year. That's happened numerous times with Sodaberg, we puts out two movies in one year, but these two just kind of go together for me in my mind. So number five, black bag and presence. Sorry if I'm cheating deal with it. Number four Logan lucky Number three, Oceanss eleven two traffic And number one, of sight giving your top ten Steven Sootderberg films, your top five Sootberg films, I don't know, Y your top rank all of his films in order. I don't know. Just give me some lists guys. I want your lists I want your list. Do doom do doom doom doom doom doom doom. I want your list. Thank you. 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Wendy O Williams was the lead singer of a band called The Plasmatics back in the late seventies punk scene in New York City They've sort of been forgotten to time, but at the time, when they were in New York City performing, They were one of the biggest draws in that city. like lines wrapped around the block. They got too big to play CBGBs and a lot of it had to do with Wendy O' Williams and her shock rock frront womoman shenanigans. She would blow up Cadillacs on stage. She would smash TVs with sledgehammers, she would chainsaw less paw guitars in half and she would do this with wearing like, you know, electrical tape on her nipples or